/pcbg/ - PC Building General - non-shit edition

>>61553597
Is that on automatically?

Voids the warranty?

THREADRIPPER WHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEN

>>61553695
>Is that on automatically?
Yes
>Voids the warranty?
No.
It's normal

>>61553741
ok

>>61553749
almost all processors these days have a turbo boost. It will pick the single best performing core and temporarily boost that core's processing speed.
Even locked, non-overclockable processors do it. My laptop has a Core i5 7300HQ. The base clock is 2.5 Ghz, but it turbo boosts to 3.5 Ghz.

>>61553738

SIGGRAPH.

What can I do with one of those 4 screws that hold the cooler in place on a GPU being really damaged?

I mean, do they sell replacements for these? I had a rough time with em.

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https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/products/memory-storage/optane-memory/optane-32gb-m-2-80mm.html

Is this an overpriced crap or just a actual useful?

>>61553892
overpriced crap at the moment.
It's only compatible with Intel SSDs at the moment and those are nowhere near best in class.

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so i just got my r7 non x, o.c. to 3.8 gh this weekend on the stock wraith spire on 1.347 volts i think it was. something in that range. still got plenty of room to hit 4.0 as i can max it to 1.425 volts but im more than happy at 3.8. i just wanted to hit 3.5 at a good voltage and i would have been super happy but 3.8 on stock is super great and such a great deal.

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Don't buy this, it doesn't work. It can't power four HDDs, maybe two, tops. Just a heads-up.

>>61554028
Its your PSU, not the cable.

>>61553922
what mobo anon? also ram speeds

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Yesterday I received a brand new 1050 Ti and I managed to mount it today after cleaning the case since it has been a while since last time.
Looks good so far, except that there's no VGA port and I cannot use my dual screen setup till I get a DP>VGA or DVI>VGA adapter so I'm stuck on the secondary screen that uses HDMI.
The temp is pretty good too by the way, the cooler is from Gigabyte, this is the mini version, I played CB2 on max settings for half a hour at 800p (small size screen) and the temp was steady around 56° with very silent fan at less than 50% speed.
Now I'm waiting for FFXIV to get delivered since I bought the physical release, I'll report back how it does with that once I install and test it, I hope it does well (it should).

>>61554049
It can't be the PSU. I used it with a 750W PSU and it didn't work, same as with a 300W. Maybe the SATA power connectors don't put out enough power for more than 2 HDDs.

>>61554062
>VGA
What year is it?

good mid tower case with good fans + airflow but still has a 5.25 inch bay?

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>>61554194
>>61554194
lmao

First AMD gaymers get BTFO by eth-miners, now they're getting their bank accounts BTFO by retailers selling them useless garbage they don't need and they STILL aren't getting a graphics card.

>>61554163
it's the current year, my main screen is actually a 50" TV from 2010 with an HTPC that although it connects to the TV using DP, it has no HDMI nor DP out port, only VGA. I already tried connecting the DP cable directly to the GPU but it didn't work, it must be a custom version, it works only with the HTPC, so I'm using it as "proxy" between the TV and the GPU, once I get the VGA adapter.

I got a Phenom II 1055T and want to upgrade my old graphics card, a HD5750, got a 1440p monitor.
What's the highest I should go as I to buile a full new PC in 3 years or so ( no used cards).
Gtx 1050 TI or gtx 970?

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>>61554062
Idle stats here.

>>61553922
I get 3.7 with the stock voltage on my 1600, have you tried lowering that voltage?

>>61554344
You will often bottleneck the 970, but it would still be an improvement over the 1050ti.

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I just finished my build, but it wont accept my windows Key?

>>61553892
It's ideal for building a computer for someone computer illiterate, who needs lots of space (HDD), and you don't trust to manage multiple volumes (ie, no separate SSD for boot).
i3 or above, however.

>>61554531
maybe your firewall is blocking windows from pinging MS? otherwise call their support line, if your key is legit I mean.

>>61554507
Yea I guess but I can always pump some additional effects into it like SSAA.
Also I see right now a new gtx 970 for 180€ while a new 1050ti is just marginally cheaper.

>>61554276
find a nice 1080p monitor at Goodwill for like $45 anon

How much should I spend on 120mm fans for an old bitfenix shinobi case?

>>61554061
Asus Prime b350 plus with corsair vengeance lpx 3000 timings are 15 15 17 17 35 i think cant exactly remember
>>61554402
can you get through cinebench on stock voltage like that? how about aida?
and well the lowest i went down was to 1.31 volts or somethin like that, idk though i guess ill go lower this weekend and let aida run for an hour, what will happen if i undervolt though will it give me the same crash as if i had overclocked to high?

>>61554578
sounds like too much for a 970. How much is a 1060 3gb selling for?
>>61554531
are you connected to the internet? Is your key legit?

>>61553922
>>61554628
15 17 17 35 cas 16

heres the exact build for reference, graphics card is a gtx 9600 till i can upgrade, also about that mobo, if your planning on building with it set the timings and qvl specs right off the bat before even installing windows, i didnt assuming they would default which gave me problems, but after setting ram speeds and frequency it runs like butter not a single crash

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/2799ae/saved/#view=r3GrHx

>>61554629
240€ for the 3gb 1060

>>61554572
I tried disabling my antivirus and firewall, same problem

>>61554629
>are you connected to the internet?
Yeah

>Is your key legit?
Key selling site, so probably some OEM key. When I had the same problem with the first key, they sent me a second

And I tried doing a system restore and it seemed to work better then, but for some reason I couldnt connect to my internet then, even through the command prompt

>>61554589
Do you mean to replace the TV? I don't think I can find any 50" screen for $45. I use it when I'm playing or watching anime, while the small secondary screen for other stuff like shitposting, checking stats, reading and whatever I cannot do on the main when it's busy.

Is there a diference between 2 and 4 sticks of ram with tha same capacity?(on a ryzen 5 system)

also is 16gigs of ram worth the price over 8?

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M.2 NVMe or ssd? Which one is faster?
and which one has longer lifetime and warranty?

>>61554726
gross. If you decide you want a 1050ti, instead look for a used gtx 960, same performance. You should be able to find one for megadirtcheap... if Radeon owners who sold to miners didn't snatch them all up.
But yeah, I saw a used 960 in my area for $80USD. Used 960 would allow more budget for cpu upgrade. I think you need that more really.

>>61554628
I've only used Prime95 and and memtest for a couple hours each, but it's been stable playing games for hours as well so I figured it was solid. Don't you have to pay for aida?

>>61554800
NVME is another type of SSD.
What you refer to "SSD" is a SATA SSD
NVME was designed to eventually replace SATA/AHCI, which was designed with hard drives, not SSDs in mind. This severely limits their performance.

If you are reading or writing very large files often or in small timeframes, NVME is worth the investment. If you just want Windows and programs like games to load quickly, the difference is trivial.

NVME flash is the same flash you find in SATA drives. It doesn't have a longer warranty.

>>61554796
Read the OP, what are you using your PC for?

>>61554800
m. 2 nvme IS an ssd. What the fuck are you talking about? Did you mean vs Sata? Nvme is much faster, but a sata drive is a lot cheaper, and the difference for most users is imperceptible. Durability / Lifetime I have no idea about.

>>61554877
mostly gaming and a bit of video editing

Is it worth upgrading from a 2GB HD7850 to a 3GB R9 280X? I've found one on Ebay for £100 but 2GB VRAM is starting to feel really cramped so I feel like I should go for at least 4GB if I buy a new card.

>>61554925
Get 2×8gb 3200mhz ram to get the best performance

Wanting to speed up my few years old Toshiba laptop with an ssd and new ram. I know the ram is a simple swap.
Is the ssd as simple as cloning the drive and popping the new one in?
I've seen videos of other ssd replacements, but none for my specific model.

>>61554942
What is your budget? For a 150$ you can get GTX 1050ti

>>61554959
Assuming the SSD is SATA, yes.
Make sure to tune the OS to the SSD once finished.

>>61554858
that sounds like a lottery winning chip to me anon, ill definitely try and lower my voltages this weekend, cooler temps would be nice, and nah you just use the free trial, download it and it will be a (from what i can see) fully functioning 30 day demo, it seems to be another winrar, extended demo type thing but ill be uninstalling it after 30 days

>>61554964
Isn't the 280X a hell of a lot more faster than the 1050Ti? Only problem is 3GB VRAM vs 4. My budget is anywhere below £200 but as low as possible is preferred. I've found a 4GB R9 380 at £179 and 970's at £200 as well.

>>61554988
>Make sure to tune the OS to the SSD once finished
Never heard of this, how's it done?

>>61555024
Get the gtx 970
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-AMD-R9-380/2577vs3482
If not get the r9 290x unless you want 4gb of vram

>>61555005
>that sounds like a lottery winning chip to me anon
I figured I had won once I got it to 4.0ghz around 1.35 on the voltage. Ran too hot for the stock cooler, but nice to know it can. I'll definitely grab aida and make sure it's stable though.

>>61555091
It may happen automatically in Windows now. Pretty sure it's mostly the swap file shrinking.

>>61555133
Cool, thanks. I've only got around 270 gbs on the current hdd and plan to get the 500GB ssd from Adata so I'm not too worried about having space.

>>61555155
The issue isn't space, it's writes to the SSD shortening lifespan. Continually getting dinged in virtual memory theoretically takes a toll.

>>61555205
After a quick google search, apparently it's just a matter of checking an optimize for ssd box in disk management, but the os should recognize it as an ssd automatically.

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>>61555125
ya all i could get at 1.35 was, 3.9 to boot, and then crash right as cinebench began to benchmark, congrats on the chip anon. please, enjoy one of my most prized memes

>>61555349
>but the os should recognize it as an ssd automatically.
Yes, that's what I figured. I was just worried if perhaps directly cloning from a HDD, rather than installing, might bypass a check in Windows for what the storage medium was.

How does the future looks for the AM4 platform? Will amd ditch it in one year likes intel does?

I'm on a 2500k and I can't stand any more the stutters and sub 45 frame drops in a lot of games. I was thinking about upgrading but since I'm a poor fag I can only afford a 1600 at best with 16gb of fast ram and a decent mobo with lots of future expansion in mind.

But if in a few years I wanna give my computer a extra boost will I be stuck with the 1800x?

>>61555409
AM4 = EOL 2020

Alright guys i need advice.
I recently resat my CPU cooler and now I am paranoid about leaving fine lint on the cooler surface during the process of replacing the thermal paste. I used an alcohol swab to wipe it down and then let it dry before mounting it. Me being a dumbfuck forgot to check for lint on the surfaces.
My CPU temperatures are fine but I am paranoid. Should I remount my CPU cooler again? Or am I just being paranoid?

>>61555424
Seriously? Sounds to good to be true. So when amd releases a 6-8 core with better IPC and higher clocks will I be able to just upgrade the bios and buy it?

Is a 550W fine for a 1080ti/Ryzen 5 1700 build? Or should I be safe and go for 650W?

Also, does anyone know about SP SSDs? The shop I frequent just got some in for a decent price and I'm considering one as my boot drive
http://m.umart.com.au/goods.php?id=39211

>>61555493
Go for a 650w and make sure it's gold/Platinum certified and from a known company and NEVER BUY A CHEAP PSU

>>61555492
It's up to the vendor to provide that support in UEFI.
>>61555493
I'd go for 650W.
SP is big in Asia. Not exactly the best quality or performance.

>>61555576
>>61555578
Wasn't gonna cheap out on PSU; seasonic or Corsair, gold certified minimum.

Thanks man, if they're not the best quality I can grab a Samsung for $7 extra and they've got a good reputation afaik

If my MOBO has an 8-pin connector for CPU power, and my PSU has a 4+4 cable, can I glue the two halves together to make it easier to install?

OK, my PC has finally been bought after various troubles with sellers and banks and should be here tomorrow.

I've bought an i7 7700 and I've heard that Win7 doesn't run properly on it?
Or that you can't install updates?
I've got a win7 install disc, should I try to make a full win7 install USB?
Or do I HAVE TO use windows 10?

>>61555620
Install from your disk, there are guides to updates. You may need a PS/2 mouse/keyboard because you won't have USB drivers before updating 7.

>>61555612
Would recommend Seasonic Prime, 960 EVO (or Pro, if you have money to burn).

>>61555612
How does SilverStone hold up as a PSU? They seem decently priced for the 650W Gold+

>>61555633
fug, I hope I still got some

>>61555673
They're pretty cheap these days

>>61555662
>https://linustechtips.com/main/topic/631048-psu-tier-list-updated/

Meh to bad.

>>61555680
yeah but I just spent £2000 and I don't want to waste any more money on something I'll only use once

>>61555576
>hurr durr cheap psu explode xd
i want this meme to die. if you buy from a good brand then even 550w bronze is going to handle 1080ti/1700 build nicely, good power supplies are a nice thing to have, but he could cheap out and it wouldn't matter. oh and if your psu is too weak it fucking explode, it'll just shut down because they were designed to not kill you. as long as you don't buy chink no-names you should be fine. also ratings are a meme anyway.

>>61555647
>960 evo meme
250gb costs 128$. you can get literally DOUBLE the capacity for 10$ more and you wouldn't feel a difference. inb4 links to synthetic benchmarks.
>telling people to buy platinum power supplies
waste of money, kys

>>61555762
>telling people to buy platinum power supplies
Prime series also contains Gold SKUs.
>waste of money
A high-end PSU for a high-end machine is completely appropriate. Believing you should skimp there of all places is emblematic of poor judgement.
>you can get literally DOUBLE the capacity for 10$ more
Did you not notice his R7 and 1080ti? Very obvious it's not value he's seeking.

>>61554531
what's the key. let me test it

>>61555695
>Linus

>>61555762
I bought a 700W, semi modular PSU from Gigabyte. It's Bronze certified but also very cheap. 40 dollars when most PSUs I find in that price are sub 500W, non modular or non certified/80+ white. Even found a Gigabyte PSU that's 400W, non modular and 80+ white for the exact same price on newegg. What am I missing?

>>61555957
>Idiocy

>>61555957
he's reddit but he has good info

>>61556025
Linus is completely irrelevant to the link posted, which makes the critique even more off-base.

>>61556025
It's not Linus's behavior that is the problem with Linus, it's his utter lack of knowledge about computer science in general

>Turns out my fans don't have PWM but my motherboard is running PWM on them so they are running at fucked up speed hence heating up my PC
Remember to setup your case fans properly kids.

>>61556418
Can't you fix that in the BIOS settings?

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>>61556418
>Turns out my fans don't have PWM

Does 7loader still work?
What's the most safe place to get it?

>>61556459
Yeah I just did.

>>61556473
At least I didn't not turn on XMP like my friend who bought high end DDR3 ram and didn't turn XMP on for a fucking year.

Does single and dual rank ram make a difference on ryzen cpus?

>>61556665
Yes

how much jew spyware shit does win 10 have that you cant disable in the setup?

What motherboards are good?

>>61557328
Asus ones

Does Windows 10 compact mode (where it compresses binaries) slow down overall performance on low/high end computres?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIADGY5XV0650

Thoughts as basic non-gaming pc?
Previous pc was amd a4-4000 with 2gb ram and 256gb hdd

>>61553878
Find a replacement at a supply/hobby store.

Fastenal has pretty much ever screw ever made but it may cost you.

>>61557342
Are MSI ones alright?

>Ether dropped 9.5%
IT'S DOING IT
IT'S FUCKING CRASHING
I CAN'T WAIT TO TOAST MY MUG OF CRYPTOKEK TEARS WITH MY CHEAP GPUS

BUTTCOINERS BTFO

>>61557143
If you get Pro you have more options with group policy, when to defer updates, etc.

>>61557562
>PPD being low will magically make the GPU market unfuck itself

Which mobo is better "retard protected" the AsrockPro4 or the GigabyteGA-AB350

Also, I understand that the sound in both is shit right?

>>61557143
just get enterprise LTSB

>>61557382
Put a 120GB SSD for the OS and it will be a very damn nice machine.

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>>61553566
Should I upgrade my CPU to the X5660, and potentially OC?
Would the stock Intel Extreme heatsink handle the Xeon in stock form?
Will I need to upgrade my cooler if I plan to OC?

ideas for
>1200$
>16gb ram
>1tb hdd
>ssd
>non-awful but not necessarily top tier graphix

>>61557501
I've used a MSI mother board for the last 4 years. Never gave me any problems

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/K6ZdVY

Roast my potential build lads

>>61557342
What about gigabyte books?

>>61557919
Boards*

>>61553566
>non-shit edition
>Poozen shilling

>>61557818
Thanks man, gonna grab it.

unfucked gpu markets when?????

>>61557918
Enjoy your hyperinflated 1060 price.
Get a better PSU. I assume you chose it because it's the first one on the list when you click PSU and it has lots of reviews.
It's an old, mediocre unit, and there are newer ones for the same price that are better (Hydro G, EVGA G2)

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>>61558135
NOW!

vega looks like it's going to be SHIT m8 unless they price is reeeallly low

Guys got a question.
My old PC died, my new pc is here soon.
If I plug my old HDD, which has Win7 installed onto it, into my new PC, will I be able to boot straight into windows?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XgffzM
How did I do, g?

>>61558154
I'll look into another psu, cheers.

>>61558240
need better RAM and AIO is not needed on ryzen money is better spent elsewhere.

>>61558240
Get faster ram and an ssd. Unless you plan to do a serious overclock just use the stock cooler.

>>61558346
>>61558383
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JmwngL

This?

>>61557749
will it affect vidya performance and drivers at all?

>>61558418
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TDPDgL

Get 16GB of ram otherwise looks good

>>61558219
Would like an answer on this if anyone knows it.

After 6 years my trusty 570GTX broke.
I'm not looking to spend huge amounts of money. The 570 could run GTA V pretty decent, and DOOM okay-ish.
Basically I'm looking for card that's either as fast or slightly faster.

What are my options?

>>61558895

Basically anything made in the last 2 years is going to massacre your 570.

>>61558863
You may encounter trouble with activation, but otherwise it should be fine, assuming your boot order is appropriate.

>>61558944
Cool. I wanted to know in case installing to the SSD tries to make me format everything because REASONS.
There's some stuff I'd like to be able to save.

>>61558895
just get a used 970.

Why do people shill the G4560 so much? Just buy a used quad core, even the i5 2500 still performs better than the G4560. The only reason I can see is the upgrade path but if you're so broke that you need to buy a dual core desktop CPU then you might as well save your shekels and wait for the next platform to be released rather than buying something like the 7700k.

>>61559034
Old platform
Used only, not worth new
Upgrade path

>>61554778
Monitor > TV

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is this fan good enough for an i7 7700k?
I don't plan on overclocking anytime soon, as 7700k is already overkill, and don't have the money for $80-100 nice cooler.
What would be adequate? Case is a p400TGS

>>61559076
Buying an old platform doesn't mean anything, especially if you only play games.

>>61559088
It doesn't make any sense to spent 30% of the cpu value on a cpu cooler, $20-30 cooler is good enough, just buy a good quality thermal paste and keep it clean.

This may sound a little retarded, but do I need to buy the cable to put the PSU into the wall or does it come with the PSU?
If so, what the fuck is it?

Also, any recommendations or guides for thermal paste?

What's better ?
>i5 2500k at 70€
>i5 3570 (non k) at 75€
>some Xeon i dont know around the same price
>anything else i dont know around the same price

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>tfw 3 weeks without a computer

>>61559364
power cord comes with psu. Whatever paste comes with your cooler should be fine.

>>61559364
like literally all of those cables are that 3-pronged standard variety because they're all drawing from the same source and the transformer is inside the psu

>>61559442
fukkkkkkk

>>61559421
You can get the 6 core 12 thread Xeon E5 1620 at that price or 4 core 8 thread E5 1620 for less

>>61559309
There's also no point in buying a CPU that costs $300 if it gets overheated if used above 70% useage :^)

>>61559421
Assuming adequate cooling/overclocking I'd say the 2500k is slightly better than the 3570, but if you aren't overclocking the 3570 is a bit better.

Are there any limitations to gaming on win 10 LTSB?

HELP
SMALLEST ITX CASE THAT ISN'T SOME SOLD OUT KICKSTARTER THING?

When I press the power button, nothing happens. No fans, nothing. I've double and triple checked all my connections, and nothing's working. When I turn my PSU on, the green LED on my GPU turns on, but that's it. What do I do?

When's Vega coming out? I got a Fury X and a GTX 670 backup card, should I sell my Fury now and use the 670 til release or just wait til Vega is here and massively disappoints everyone? I just want to stay on team red, I'm sure Vega will be a terrible product but I want 1080-ish performance. I'm also optimistic AMD will try to make it slightly cheaper.

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Threadly reminder that there's no reason to buy a PC new if you have less than $1000 to spend on it since you can get a 1600 equivalent, 16GB RAM and 1080 for that price by buying a used Xeon workstation and a 120GB SSD

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Build-Your-Own-HP-Z420-Workstation-6-Core-3-20GHz-E5-1650-No-OS-Wholesale-/172717197310

>>61559506
>Xeon E5 1620
checked, the cpu looks good but the mobos too damn expansive, i cant really get past 130€ for the cpu+mb
>>61559507
The 3570 cant be oc at all ? I fear that the 2500k might be a bit too old overall. In both case that still better than a pentium g4620 or some recent i3 right ?

>>61559576
full size gpu?

>>61559595
Help pls

Already got an SSD and screen, is just to substitute my broken computer

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vxYYFd

>>61559721
Are you building a completely new system or upgrading what you have? You can just buy a used workstation with a propietary motherboard and PSU with that CPU in it for cheap.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HP-Z420-Customisable-Eight-or-Quad-Core-Xeon-Up-to-32GB-RAM-Workstation-Win-10-/142303353588

Any yuropoors around who have tried ordering from Mindfactory lately? They are conducting some sort of A/B testing it seems (getting the new site every now and then), and today I've tried to order parts twice but both time have ended up in some weird bug. The first one replaced a 1080 Ti in the basket with 7700K while keeping the price same. Kinda disappointing since the same card is now listed for 100€ more than previously. During the second order I got to the last part but after clicking confirm, I was thrown back to the front page with the items still in the basket and I got no confirmation e-mail.

Why do they have to have such a shitty website? T_T

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>>61553566
OP should reflect that ryzen r3 1300xs can oc to 4.0ghz, so people might want to hold off on buying the pentium g.

>>61559805
Im upgrading from a phenom 1090t, i just need a new cpu and the mb. I already have 16go ram, the psu and a rx390x

>>61559750
Yeah, preferably.

>>61559875
node 202
sg13b
ml08
raijintek metis
ft03b-mini

is there any benefit to running two different (not the same model but the same brand) graphics cards in a single computer?

would this require a special motherboard?

How can I tell if my MOBO is fucked?

>>61559874
I'd go with the 3570 then

>>61558219
sysprep

>>61560006
I recognize a few of those but not all, thanks.

>>61560052
LianLi PCQ-11
EVGA Hadron

>>61560013
If everything else isn't.

>>61559776
>buying a 580 while prices haven't recovered
also that that power supply isn't worth the price, get a seasonic.

What's better for strictly gaming? Ryzen 1600x with a $50ish cooler or a Ryzen 1700 with the stock cooler?

>>61560006
Solid selection - id suggest going compact mATX rather than mini itx tho - the different between compact matx and mITX cases isn't that different but gives a bit more flexibility and better heat management etc. But your call bro. :)

>>61560233
How can I test everything else without the MOBO?

is it worth waiting for Ryzen r3 or should I just pull the trigger on an R5 now? Is the bang per buck for a R5 worth it over a r3?

>>61560263
smallest available matx cases will float around the 30-40L range, tj08-e is the smallest matx i've seen. All the itx listed are between 10L and 20L.

>>61560236
>>61560295
1600

prepare for even more cheaper GPUs for a short period of time
bitcoin hard fork incoming

>>61560327
Respectfully disagree but I suppose it's how small anon needs it. I believe? Inwin 301 and raijintek Styx are mid 20s litres (at least according to some list I saw - so happy to be proven wrong).

>>61560295
Why would you want r3? It's shit

>>61560046
Thank you ill probably go with that, lga 1155 are still expansive tho, wtf.

>>61560415
Aren't r3s just the same as r5s but with fewer cores/threads?

>>61560410
i actually really like the 301, nice case for the price.

>>61559034
>Just buy a used quad core, even the i5 2500 still performs better than the G4560.
Good luck finding a decent MOBO for the 2500.

>>61560586
Have you got one? Read a lot about high temps because of fan layout. But don't know if this is just people putting too much machine in too small a case. But yes, beautiful little case. Good taste Anon.

>>61560589
Fuck shilltel changing sockets every couple of years. They might make marginally better processors (not justified by the high prices tho) but consumers should just boycott them because of how they've monopolised the market for the last decade at least. Now they're getting their comeuppance with ARM, AMD, Server markets undercutting Shilltel

>>61559670
>a 1600 equivalent
A sandy bridge clocked at 3.2GHz is not 1600 equivalent.

Speaking of, is the Inwin 301 better than the Fractal Define Mini C?

>>61560445

It's because cpu tech has stagnated for the past 5 years. The only thing worth upgrading right now is your gpu (lol cryptocurrency).

>>61560678
The 1600 is clocked at 3.2 Ghz as well you muppet, and the Xeon turbos higher.

>>61560619
If i were to start another build i'd definitely consider one. Yeah the cooling was a concerning from what I've heard. Some inverted the direction of intake/exhaust and flipped the entire case, kinda neat.

https://imgur.com/a/7rTuz

>>61560734
The 1600 also has about 30% higher IPC.

>>61560735
Pretty rig is pretty

Hows the build? The ram and cooler is what I'm worried about most. Also if you guys got better recommendations for cases that would be cool.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Lx86f8

>>61560686
I've read around this loads at the moment and come to the conclusion (based on the conclusions of others!) that the mini c is the best all round case. Yes a little bigger but build quality, cable management, cooling all seem covered in the way other cases seem to miss the mark slightly. Raijintek Thetis looks promising too but can only find about two reviews on-line

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>>61560686
i'd go with the inwin, it supports both matx and itx while being smaller than the fractal case. Also some problems with full size power supplies choking non-blower style coolers in the nano s.

>>61560809
everything looks fine, but i think you'd be better off with a b350 board. x370 is better for sli/crossfire.

For liquid cooling and cable management, is a full case noticeably easier to use? Space in no real concern to me.

>>61561200
Space on my desk, I mean.

Cheapest not-shit case?

>>61561362
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811553002

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>>61561389
>$90 for something that ugly

say i wanted to build https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TDPDgL from earlier in the thread with no other changes except maybe the case, what would be a motherboard that would allow me to use two different graphics cards (gtx 1070 and gt 730) ?

>>61561362
form factor? features?

I dont know much about linux, but I want to avoid windows 10 like the plague. would it be possible to have linux booted as my main OS and 10 just for games using a single computer (2 monitors)? I dont want to use a VM for obvious performance reasons.

>>61561362
Core v21

>>61561461
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Zzsrjc
>>61561599
dualboot

>>61561480
good ventilation, if it has an SD slot it would be perfect, but I don't care if it doesn't. USB 3.0 at least 2. ATX. Anything else doesn't really matter.

>>61561625
I like it, but I should go for a micro format which I've never had before and don't really know the differences, I'll do some research tomorrow. Fucking GPU market is still shit so I've got plenty of time anyway.

>>61561362
Shit is relative.

I'm new to pc building and want to spend around ~600 any suggestions

>>61561683
dual titan Xps
intel 7700k
RBG everything
5-way sli support motherboard

So, I'm looking at SSDs and I honestly am retarded, what's the difference between the ones that go into the M2, PCIE, SATA? Is it just speed, and if so, which is the fastest?

>>61561802
dont forget...

5000 MHz X-TREME GAMING RAM!!!! w/ 1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1-1 timings!!! XD

>>61561444
Why do people care so much about case aesthetics anyway? In a few weeks you'll stop noticing either way

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Any recommendations on a motherboard that doesn't cost more than £100?

Or anything else that I still haven't bought? My budget is around £700

>>61561656
anything from fractal design
s340
270r
p400

>>61561915
literally no reason to buy that when there's a plethora of cheaper, better looking enclosures with more features.

>>61561444
looks good except the blue text imo

>>61561939
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dwJDgL

>>61561870
no they go in different ports

NVME M.2 or NVME PCIE would be the fastest

There are SATA M.2 drives

SATA are stuck to SATA speeds, but really the sequential read/write speeds are irrelevant unless you're transferring files between drives a lot

I've been given a task to create a part list, assemble the parts and set up the PCs while maximizing economy/price-performance.

The computers will have a wide array of uses, mostly in offices and classrooms.
For example: Basic audio/photo editing, program&kernel compilation, web usage, MS Office, possibly light CUDA accelerated stuff.
Not many workloads you'd find outside a high school or typical office setting but the PC should still be versatile.

Another thing to consider is that the computers are going to be used for at LEAST 3 years with only software updates, and most of them within classroom/office environments are going to be connected to NAS.

- Intel Pentium G4560 3.5GHz
- 8GB Crucial 2400MHz DDR4 -> Cheapest 8GB DDR4
- MSI GeForce GT1030 2GB
- ASRock H110M-HDV -> Cheapest LGA1151
- Apacer AS330 120GB SSD -> Cheapest 120GB SSD
- LC Power LC420-12 ATX2.31 80+ Bronze
- Akyga Micro ATX case, generic -> Cheapest mATX case
- Logitech B100 USB mouse -> Cheapest decent quality mouse
- Logitech K120 USB keyboard -> Cheapest decent quality keyboard
- Acer 21.5" 1080p TN DVI monitor -> Cheapest 21.5+" 1080+p monitor with a digital port

>>61562096
Tell wherever you work to stop being cheap and just get a contract set up with a company like any other real organization.
Also is an SSD really worth it just for office stuff?

>>61562135
I AM in the company that does contract work, just bored and figured I'd ask for suggestions.

A 500GB HDD is approximately the same price as a 120GB SSD, and there's zero need for people to store large files on those computers...

>>61562096
Which OS? Which software are they installing? Are USB flash drives allowed? They may run out of space quickly depending on this.

>>61562331
>Which OS?
Windows 10 because Kaby Lake, possibly/probably in a dual boot with a Linux distro in some use cases.
I'm not installing the OS on the PCs, it's up to the institutions/companies we sell them to.

>Which software are they installing?
Possible list of software:
- MS Office and Photoshop/GIMP on pretty much all of them
- DevCPP/Code::Blocks
- 3dsMax/Sketchup
- Audacity/FL Studio
- Visual Studio

>Are USB flash drives allowed?
Yep, security is still pretty bad around these parts.
Only a few - not really few anymore - years ago I got admin privileges in middle school by using the classic login screen on XP and logging in as the NT superadmin without a password.

>>61554531
You can just call support and say your key works and they will activate it

>>61562473
I think they will run out of space, visual studio alone can take up to 20 gigarillos, visual studio projects can easily take gigs too, msoffice is 8 photoshop and others can be from 10 to 20 too, the full adobe suit could reach 30 gigs, 3d shit is like 6gb but the files can takes gigs too, linux is 10-15 and windows is 30 plus botnet increasing over time. Audio files can take space too if they work with samples or raw data.

I would get 240gb minimum or just HDD's.

>>61562724
Eh, true.
The only Adobe things will probably be PS and DW but still... But the budget is tight and HDDs are so 1994.

Will probably settle for a 120GB SSD and 1TB HDD.

Just finished her up

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gPvwXH

Does Ryzen work with Windows 7 yet? I really don't want to use Botnet OS.

>>61560263
>>61560410
My primary use for such a small case is to get one I can fit into my/a backpack. mATX is a little too large for that boundary.

Rate my <$300 build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LWrCXH

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Guys, I really need some help on this one because I swear to God I'm about to lose my shit so fucking hard.

Based in the UK. Here's my parts list.
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/ZrKkBP
I just finished building at the weekend. I switched on and it went to black screen and asked for boot media. I assume that means everything went ok.
Went to the BIOS today and poked around in advanced mode, everything checked out.

Now, I'm trying to install Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit as my OS and I can't. I just can't. I've been trying for hours and I cannot figure this out. It's driving me insane.
Since I don't have an optical drive, I need to do it via USB. So I went into the BIOS and configured it to boot from USB rather than SSD.
Then I went to a 2nd computer, inserted the disc and prepared the USB.
I ran CMD as Administrator and entered the following
>Diskpart,
>List Disk
>Select Disk 1
>Clean
>Create Partition Primary
>Active
>Format Quick FS=FAT32
>Assign
>Exit
After that I just copied and pasted the contents of the Disc onto the USB, inserted it into the rear USB port and booted.
No go.
That's when I got this error message as I tried to install.
So I figured that I needed to include the drivers on the discs I got with the components. So I coped and pasted those onto the USB as well.
Still no go.
So I checked some youtube tutorials and found a program called WintoFlash, downloaded that, formatted the USB and used that program to copy the contents over.
Still no go.
So I figured maybe it's a hardware error, just unplug the SSD and HDD from the Mobo and install again.
Again I get the error message.

I don't know what I'm doing wrong.
Please, if anybody can tell me what to do you would be my angel of fucking mercy.

>>61562794
It's always worked, but you need to download drivers for keyboard and mice, and download an open-source third party mod that unblocks the updates. Kaby Lake has the same problems with 7 as Ryzen

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>>61562794
It worked a long time ago.

>>61562857
You need MSI Smart Tools to make a USB with Intel USB 3.1/3.0 drivers in them.

>>61560846
I have a Nano S with a strix 1070(3 fans), and I have no problem with temps at all. 32C idle, 55C loaded.

>>61562750
1tb x machine may be overkill too, I'm sure they will also use windows share and also you said they allow flash drives, I just recommend no less than 240gb x machine.

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I currently have a GTX1080 and want to run two monitors, one 144hz and one 60hz for web browsing and monitoring streaming

I've heard of other people having issues with this, and it seems like it's a driver-related issue. Does anyone know the cause and maybe even a solution?

>>61563060
>>>/v/

>>61553566
How much better is G4600 compared to G4560?

>>61563079

this is obviously a PC question

the last thing i need is a bunch of people starting an argument of console ease vs PC power

>>61563104
>6700K, 3GHz GAMER RAM and the FOR GAMERS BY GAMERS FROM REPUBLIC OF GAMERS motherboard.

>>61562851
Get a job

>>61554264
>that thumb

>>61562857
Boot your Windows 7 USB stick from one of the USB2.0 ports on (the ones next to the PS/2 port).

>>61563141

okay, you're not answering the question. obviously you don't know the answer. why even reply

>>61563186
to make you feel as dumb as you are

If I use some form linux as a primary OS and win 10 on a VM
>will gaming performance be severely affected
>will win 10 telemetry know anything i do on linux

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>>61563169
Still no go, same error message
Sorry, this is just beyond infuriating me now

Just finished getting everything set up and I will tell you this:
Unless you are planning to SLI, extreme OC, or add multiple pci cards, stick with the mATX form factor. At this point the margins in cost between mATX and ATX are virtually nonexistent below the high end level, yet the space savings can be significant.
I already find accommodating the space my "mid-size tower" case fills on my desk quite intrusive. Now I must live with my mistake.

>>61563060
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rkF9m8

Bump, here is what I've got in mind

>>61563396
Or maybe I need more than like 4 sata/usb.

>>61563060
What is the problem?

>>61563306
Sounds like >>61562898 is right, had a quick read and the MSI Smart Tools sound like they'll do the trick.

That or install Windows 10 (or gentoo)

>>61563441

This sounds dumb, but I swear it's legitimate. What sort of tweaks do I need to make to ensure that my monitors would work at their natural refresh rates and not default to the lowest one?

Is the B350 the best motherboard for Ryzen chipset?

>>61563573
x370 has more features but is more expensive. Thankfully on PCPartPicker you can dial in the specifications you want on a motherboard and it automatically filters the list.

first time builder here. wanted a computer for some 1080p 60hz gaming (france) and came up with this:

https://fr.pcpartpicker.com/list/sbF9m8
anything big i missed ?

>>61563622
Change the motherboard for one with better VRMs. continuing the white theme, I'd suggest an MSI B350M Mortar Arctic, or an MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic.

>>61563573
Pretty much yes

X370 is overpriced as hell. Any of the b350 boards will run a 1600x at 1.45v, and most - if not all - of them will do it with a 1700/1800x too. Honestly the only thing you lose out on is the SLI support, slightly better peripheral components (intel NIC, sound), and I/O.

The biggest differences are the BIOS and overclock settings, which nobody even reviews in the first place.

X370 = wasting money

Where I live, the difference between a B350 board and an X370 board is anywhere from $100 - $300. It's a fucking joke.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/RFF9m8
How'd I do anons?
I wanna be able to run most games on decent or low settings, my budget is $500 though.
I'm planning on using Windows 10 in trial mode using this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YvONuPGOuGY until I can buy a genuine key.

will 7700k work on linux?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202298&ignorebbr=1

mining cards came out? odd that it's limited to 1 per person but normal cards are like 6

>>61563622
You can save a bit by going with a 1tb hdd and a smaller 120gb ssd. You'd still have loads of room on that ssd after you add Windows to it and the hdd will come in useful for games as most games are coming out with sizes up to 100gb nowadays once all patches are installed.

Also you don't need a good certified psu. For half the price you can get a 600w bronze psu. The rating isn't to do with the quality of the psu it's related to the efficiency when pulling power at peak loads from the wall.

Gold certified psu *

>>61563725
Ryzen 3 releases in a few days. Get a Ryzen 3 1200 and a good B350 motherboard.

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niggers and /g/entoomen, rate my completed build, posting from it now
>items with no cost means i already had them before buying anything

Guys, where do i get a lga 1155 where i can oc for cheap ?

>>61563814
forgot the link
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/oznerol10/saved/tZXzyc

>>61563820
*lga 1155 board

are the i7 7700k integrated graphics sufficient for youtube/netflix?

>>61563814
hope you aren't idling my dude

>>61563905
nein my /g/entooman, i am mining ethereum with a gpu i bought for gaming before the eth boom hit the nvidia market

>>61563659
i like asus alot. would the b350 prime plus be better (at a glance, the only thing it has going for it is crossfire) ? also open to doing black/red scheme
>>61563750
ye i think ima go with the hd and a smaller ssd. regarding power supply, my last one was a be quiet bronze that shorted out during a surge and fried my entire pc (5 y old, so not too bad). So i'd like a good quality psu that prevents that. Also, i heard 10% of your pc budget should be power supply, but not sure if its a marketing meme.

>>61563725
The i3 sucks balls. Get the Pentium g4560 for $80 and use the savings from those combined to get a 1050 ti.

Something like this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3BgyPs

>>61563622
No need for a small gpu in a mid tower case.

>>61563969
That was probably just a shit psu. If you get any bronze psu from a good manufacturer you'll be fine. Seasonic are the obvious choice. I'm actually using a used antec hcg 620w which is made by seasonic but sold by antec. I got it used 4 years ago for super cheap and it's still running fine to this day with no issue because it's built with high quality components but it's a bronze certified power supply.

Like I said the certification has nothing to do with the quality of the actual power supply it's all to do with efficiency when pulling power from the wall.

>>61563622
>>61564011
Actually I just noticed you picked a micro atx aswell. Any reason for that considering your case is mid tower.

>>61563475
No tweaks. Just go to Nvidia control panel, monitors and set your monitors to the respective frequency you want. The problem with mismatching frequency monitors is that your GPU doesn't idle properly but the latest drivers seem to have fixed that for me at least.

>>61564057
i like the case and the fan config. but also considering a corsair carbide spec-m2. the small gpu is just because an rx480 costs more, and i don't think the difference will be too noticeable.
thanks for the advice tho, will get an 80+ bronze.
thoughts on the b350-ma ? or does the b350 prime-plus perform better ? don't plan on crossfire, but heard vrm better.

>>61563903
yes

i've got an i7 6500u (2 core i7) in one of my laptops and it can run half life

what motherboard should I get for IOMMU I/O virtualization, namely VT-d? I'm getting an i7 7700k.

Why does the 1060 3GB even exist?

>>61564469
cash grab from stupid people

>>61564469
Why not ?

>>61564469
The same reason why RX vega is gonna exist

I finally have my memory running on Ryzen at its rated speed after updating to the latest BIOS for my motherboard. How do I test if it's stable or whatnot? Just use my PC as I usually do and see if it crashes?
I'm fairly new to this still and haven't even tried overclocking my CPU or GPU, yet. Figured I'd wait until I can afford to replace the stock Wraith Spire or get better case cooling. Is the standard 2 front intake, 1 back exhaust fan setup fine or am I overestimating the required environment for overclocking? I'm under the impression that it's a strenuous thing only the most decked out builds can do. Sorry if it's a stupid ask.

>>61554097
that's not how Electricity works ...
But yes, The Sata Standard; the contact pins, are too small to handle a decent amount of current.

https://videocardz.com/71090/amd-radeon-rx-vega-3dmark-fire-strike-performance

GUYS! ITS FUCKING SHIT!

Building a dual purpose NAS/HTPC running linux (idk what distro yet)

Was considering AM4 socket, but no Ryzen has integrated graphics, should I switch to intel? Or just get a cheap NVS310 or 1050 gpu?

Just want it to be able to playback video no problem, and not have any issue with linux, or running a VM of windows.

>>61564612
>should I switch to intel
yes
unless you can afford 2 graphics cards, which i assume you wont be able to sli if you split one off for the VM.
make sure the cpu and mobo have vt-d support

What is the best gaming pc you can get for nine hundred bux?

>>61564773
A console

>>61564773
Ryzen R5 and a GTX 1060 should fit in that budget. Maybe a 1070.

>>61564809
pls no

>>61564849
Thanks I'll look into those.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GJmhcc

How does this look for a quiet little Pentium build?

Run Prime95 or AIDA64 overnight.

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>please refer to memory support list for more info
>doesnt link it

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>>61564992
for
>>61564529

>>61564715
You're talking about 2 gfx cards for if I wanted to do gpu passthrough? Thats only needed it I'm gaming essentially right? Not otherwise?

Wont the additional cores on amd's lead to better performance with a vm running and server background processes occuring?

>>61563730
No

>>61565325
says what

>>61565071
Bumping this...

If I am not gaming I should be fine with one GPU using Vm's?

I figure a 1700X will be better for VM and general server stability (no lag moments) than a 7700k?

>>61565003
Ty.

Probably a dumb question but what should I replace first between my ram, cpu, or gpu? Noticing that I have to turn down settings to get 60 fps in newer games and I built it three years ago so I figure something is ready for an upgrade.

Ram: 8gb
CPU: I-57 4690k
GPU: R9 290 4gb

I know it's a bad time for GPUS but I figure I could sell mine if I replace it for a good chunk of the cost of a new one. Any ideas?

>>61565590
>If I am not gaming I should be fine with one GPU using Vm's?
Yes.

>>61565970
Wait™ for Vega

>>61565970
an i7 4790k
16GB of RAM
RX 580 or 1070

>>61565970
>I know it's a bad time for GPUS but I figure I could sell mine if I replace it for a good chunk of the cost of a new one. Any ideas?
no. crypto currency has currently crashed, so this is both a bad time to buy and a bad time to sell

Which mobo should i buy for a r7 1700? Some days ago i read something here about the asus ones being shitty but don't paid enough attention

>>61553566
How well will 2 AMD Opteron 2431s preform?

r8 please.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZMxK9W

I already have a good GPU and sufficient hard drive space.

My concerns:

AIO Watercooler completely overkill, I really just want 3.9+Ghz if possible on the 1700.

Motherboard quality, I don't care about the features of x370 at all, but I would like a good quality b350. I've heard both avoid MSI, and that the pro carbon is good quality.

RAM is overkill, I do want high speed RAM with good CAS latency, not sure if THIS high is worth it.

I if I am trying to put together a budget gaming rig, is it worth trying to go with a used Xeon 2660 or something similar as the base and build around that?

>>61566115
Make sure RAM is on the QvL.
Either pay more for the 1700x or drop the liquid cooler and use that money to buy a 1060.

>>61565970
If you're going to upgrade your cpu you're going to need to buy DDR4 ram and a new mobo. Depending on what resolution and refresh rate you're playing at a 4690k should still be okay for another year or two - you might see bottlenecks at 1080/1440p 144hz but 60hz or 4k will be fine.

Sell the 290 while mining is still a thing, you should be able to get decent money for it, enough to get you half the cost of an upgrade to a 1080.

See if you can find another couple sticks of cheap used RAM to hold you over until you upgrade cpu, as most games today will hit 100% memory usage at 8gb, but it won't give you a huge perf boost like a new graphics card would.

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just bought G502 Proteus Spectrum
what you guys think

Should I update my BIOS or install my OS first? I don't have an internet connection for the machine until I install the drivers for the old USB wifi adapter Ill be using, but I didn't know if it was safer to update the BIOS before setting up the OS. (Not sure why this would be the case. Maybe because its lower on the hardware level or something? I'm just making wild guesses here.)
I'm also unsure whether I need to update my BIOS with every version more recent than the pre-installed version in chronological order, or if I can just dl the newest version and install that update alone.

>>61566239
>>61566239
Update bios first.
DL the newest version and installing that update will do.

Have an RX 580 4gb paired with an R5 1500x, but I kind of feel it's not running games as well as it should be, what's some good benchmark programs to run it through to make sure it's preformance is fully being taken advantage of?

>>61566164
I don't need a new graphics card.

what fan should i get for a 7700k
please dont spew memes at me

>>61566115
psu is overkill

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>>61566372

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FDdTcc
ow my fucking wallet

>>61566456
>75 HZ monitor
>7700K
why

>>61553566
I'm building my first PC and a friend has recommended the ACER XF240H 144hz monitor. I plan on doing 1080p gaming, hopefully 80-100fps on most games, but 60 wouldn't be all that bad either. I can't decide on a GPU though - I have an RX 580 picked out right now, but I'm tempted to go with Nvidia because I've heard it's just better in every way. The only thing stopping me is the price of similar performance Nvidia cards to the RX 580 - a 1060 is closest but I don't think it's much better than what I have picked out. And a 1070 or 1080 is significantly more expensive, so I am not sure if it is worth it for my build.

I have a Ryzen 5 1600 CPU picked out and a budget of $2000 CAD.

Any help is appreciated!

>>61566227
love that mouse

>>61566525
what's wrong with that?

>>61566598
The ONLY reason a 7700K makes any sense now is if you're using it with a 144 Hz monitor.
If that is not why you're getting an i7, you have no legitimate reason to get one.
Get an AMD Ryzen 5 1600 and a B350 motherboard.

My first build primarily for gaming. Am I doing anything wrong?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cw4QWX

>>61566533
RX580 >1060 6GG in newer games
RX570 > 1060 3GB

If you do go with a 1060 do not under any circumstances get the 3GB, its fucking trash, and even the 1050TI can outperform it in some games.

Wait and see what the release of Vega does to the 1070's and 1080's.

Ignore the retards posting constant threads about how shit vega is, those are the FE edition benchmarks, not the RX ones.

https://pcpartpicker.com/product/LDQRsY/zotac-geforce-gt-710-1gb-pcie-x1-video-card-zt-71304-20l
would something like this work just to replicate integrated graphics for a ryzen?

>>61566677
Ok, great. Thank you sir. And yeah I don't plan on buying until Vega is released.

I am just curious if the 580 will be able to maximize the use of my monitor or if I will be overpaying for features I won't use.

>>61566533
I have an rx580, absolutely love it. Paired with the 1600 CPU you will be fine. That is if you can find a 580 that isn't inflated with mine prices. Worth snagging this card if you can

>>61566746
PCPartPicker has the MSI model for $389 CAD right now.

>>61566796
Not bad, if you can snag it I would. Just make sure the site it's pulling from isn't on back order or anything. Alot of the sites I was finding off pcpartpicker we're out of stock even if pcpartpicker said they were in stock. I got lucky and found mine for 280usd on OfferUp pulled from a brand new Best buy prebuilt. Good luck my dude, it's a wonderful card

>>61566631
im not sure ryzen will work for what i want.
I plan on running VMs and ryzen has no integrated graphics. according to some people, shit starts acting fucky if you use 2 different pci graphics cards (one for VM passthrough, one for native)

>>61566868
Ryzen will work just fine. The problem with GPU passthrough isn't with Ryzen, but with the GPU. Nvidia cucks their drivers; If it detects a passthrough is being detected, it will refuse to work. For a GPU passthrough, Intel or Ryzen, you want an AMD GPU

You think Ryzen 3 will sell out at all? How many people here are planning on picking one of them up?

>>61566733
It would work, but I would really recommend getting faster for a bit more money like:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/s8Gkcf/msi-video-card-r7770pmd1gd5
The 710 is REALLY slow; you might even have trouble using normal windows desktop features, watching youtube vids, etc

>>61566733
>nvidia to replicate a Ryzen APU
bo. You use Radeon graphics for that. Fucking retards man.

>>61566655
You're missing storage. Get an ssd for the os and some games, an hdd for everything else.

I went to install w7 on a new computer, but it won't recognize my usb2.0 devices in the usb2.0 slots.
Got any ideas how to get my keyboard to work? It works in the BIOS just not in the install.

>>61567120
You need to download drivers for it.

>>61564939
3GB 1060 is ass, you may as well get a 1050ti

>>61566863
thanks!

>>61567225
I wasn't really sure how to install them from the BIOS from a usb. I actually already have the driver installer executable and whatnot.
I really don't know. Almost every discussion online says that using usb2.0 should work so I am confused.

>>61566115

https://www.newegg.com/products/N82E16820236038

This Ram is the same spec, except actually smaller and $30 cheaper, and I believe is on the qvl. Its running on my MSI mortar b350m at a stable 3200mhz after a bios update.

>>61566309
Do you have the latest drivers?

>>61567328
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11182/how-to-get-ryzen-working-on-windows-7-x64

>>61567328
Fresh installs of windows can be wonky with USB stuff.

How long has it been sitting? It took win10 like 5mins before it even tried searching for drivers. You've tried restarting as well, right?

>>61567379
Yikes. Maybe I can just go grab a ps2 keyboard.
>>61567401
I've restarted a couple times. I switched the ports each time and let it sit for like 10 minutes. It doesn't seem to be doing anything except wait for my input that cannot be recieved. I'm also offline, so I'm not sure it can even search for drivers anyway.

>>61566893
there's a workaround apparently
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aLeWg11ZBn0
13:40

>>61562059
i might actually buy all these parts.
can someone confirm this isn't some kind of meme pc?

>>61567451
>I'm also offline, so I'm not sure it can even search for drivers anyway.

Anon...i think you just found your problem

>>61562059
>https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/dwJDgL
>>61567595

I'm basically running the exact same thing, except the 3200mhz vengence, and the nitro instead of the pulse version of that GPU.

Everything just werks, make sure you update your motherboards bios before trying anything with overclocking the ram or enabling xAmp.

If you don't know how to do this its as simple as downloading and extracting the file and loading it into the USB, then clicking "update/flash bios.

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>>61567659
is anyone actually selling any fucking graphics cards? i want a gtx 1070 cos i heard it's good but no-one's selling one. i want a computer like, tomorrow.

>>61567822
Your choice now is the low end 1050/ti or paying a bit more for 1060. Or going high end 1080/ti.

>>61567822
1070 is good, but stock is limited.
The market is fucked up for sure. to even get my 580 I had to buy it in a combo deal (249+30$ for some shitty fitness band)

i doubt the manufacturers will risk flooding the market with a ton of stock with the new generation of cards coming out in the next few months.

I don't know how strict your budget is but you can likely get a 1080 quicker.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/GIGABYTE-NVIDIA-GeForce-1080-GAMING/dp/B01GCAW1IA

>>61567927
>https://www.amazon.co.uk/GIGABYTE-NVIDIA-GeForce-1080-GAMING/dp/B01GCAW1IA
is there anywhere i can get that card with paypal?
my budget is tight on amazon but if i can get the graphics card with paypal i can afford the 1080 np

>>61567854
>>61567927
or i might just get the 1050/ti and wait for the next gen, does that sound sensible

My GA-AB350-Gaming 3 was DOA and isn't eligible for a return, what's the cheapest AM4 MOBO that supports overclocking and 2900+ RAM?

>>61561939
Asrock B350 pro4
And replace that PSU