/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Does anyone trust Austin Evans builds?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WQvDbXsWmGw

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>>61527125
No

Is the Asrock pro4 a decent mobo for a decent gaming build at that price range?

Also, I'm also looking for a mobo with durability and retard proof.

>>61515338
Do you have that code? I signed up for the email promo codes but I'm getting nothing

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is he /ourguy/?

>>61527270
Idk man why dont you just kiss him then

>>61527270
That's TechDeals.

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Should I build a dual X5670 machine for heavy VM usage and KVM gaming? Is this a retarded idea?

>>61527255
It's applied at checkout, just add it to your cart, should be automatic.

>>61527761
tek deels

>>61527764
What games?

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thinking of buying this and upgrading to 16 gb. what should I add to to it to become a sweet machine for gaming and beat minimum 1080 at 30 fps?

Dell OptiPlex 780 MT/Core 2 Duo 3.00 GHz/ 8GB DDR3 / 1TB HDD/DVD-RW/WINDOWS 10 PRO 64 BIT(Certified Refurbished) https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NBRGQIE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_NxrDzbJA4VKHC

>>61527920
Core 2 is getting weaker and weaker now, but I'd say your best shot is to buy a Q9650 off of eBay and then Wait™ for Ethereum to crash and buy a cheap used RX580 off of eBay.

>>61527860
I mostly play muh console ports and simulators (Skylines, Tropico, etc).

>>61527920
nom nom nom anon

That cpu is poopy. I would get at least a core 2 quad

I think a mid ranged graphics card added might help like rx 500 series but will give you poopy overall performance

>>61528006
It's probably fine then, Cities:Skylines is pretty CPU heavy but also very well multithreaded. Console ports may be a slight issue. Ironically, the shittier the port is, the better it might work since the consoles have 8 weak cores and you'd have 12 stronger cores.

Would it be dumb to sell my 1060 and buy a 580 to be able to take advantage of freesync?
Would like a 144hz monitor and don't want to pay the premium for gsync.

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I was thinking It was about time to upgrade my shitty 5 year old PC. How much would it sell for on some place like eBay? I was thinking £150 ($200)

>>61528218
Which GPU is that specifially?

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Hey /g/ I got an old dell vostro 200 for free from a friend a while ago and I am wondering if this is a good upgrade for it or if I'm just wasting my money and if I'm better off building a rig from scratch, my list is within the link and my budget is roughly $300 any help would be appreciated.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/jMPvyf

>>61527779
Alright, so the total for that was 90, i guess that's not too bad. Now onto the SSD, I can use amazon for that.

>>61528118
No not at all, it's a pretty good idea. Make sure 580s are available before you do though. Also try to get a decent 580, you'll want to OC it for 144hz.
Hope your cpu is up to task. I had a i3 6100/1060 6gb PC and I bought a 144hz monitor(fucking awesome btw never going back) and the next day I ordered a 6600k. CPU becomes very very relevant past 60hz where as just about anything 2500k/8350 or better is okay for 60hz.
Also look into freesync to make sure it's what you really want. I've read about issues where the game has to be in exclusive full screen mode which sucks if you have two monitors. Also make sure the monitor has a decent freesync range so you didn't waste all the effort.
Probably selling my 980ti(matches a stock 1080 in firestrike with it's OC) for a vega for freesync.

>>61528293
You should buy a Core 2 Quad rather than a Core 2 Duo. It'll make it much more usable. Additionally, buy some more ram to up it to 8GB.

>>61528349
The mobo doesn't support 8GB only up to 4GB, and I'm not to sure which Core 2 Quad to pick, the ones that I compared to the E8400 didn't match up according to online benchmarks.

>>61528404
>motherboard only supports up to 4GB
Oof. You're wasting your money if you upgrade the PC.

https://tweakers.net/pricewatch/497741/kingston-kcp421ns8-8.html
Anybody familiar with kingston's RAM? This seems like a reasonable price for 8gb.

>>61528293
If you want to play games I strongly advise you to just try and come up with a little bit more money and try to get like even just $50 for that Dell.
Then look at used hardware or even a pentium/1050 build if you can find some sales.
That gt1030 is a total waste of money, don't do that.

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>>61528242
huh, why didn't speccy say?

its the vx7850 2gbd5-2dhx,
generic unboxing i found for reference: : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NaxakxSpMi0

also I heard there was an inflation in graphics card prices from miners? How long before that blows over if it hasn't already?

>>61528404
save your money and buy something better later
that thing is ass

Which motherboard will allow me to use the absolute highest frequency RAM with a r7 1700?
I know ryzen scales well with ddr4 frquency but so does my most played game so it's important to me to get the fastest ram I can. I know I can't do 4k+ like with intel but I'm happy with even 3600.
I would just get the 7700k but I really want the 16 threads, I think the Ryzen will stay usable for way longer because of how many threads it has. I bought a 2600k over the 2500k for the same reason and it worked well but my mobo died before the CPU was outdated and I'm going for 120hz now anyway.

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>>61526997
Alright, yesterday I said I was gonna pull the trigger on this and you gave me suggestions. I want to buy stuff today because tax free weekend (I think it only applies to the cpu though). Someone said get an x370 mobo, could anyone explain why I would want to pay twice as much? Any other points about this build would be welcome.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7x7ZTH

I'm honestly still unsure about ryzen vs intel, but I don't expect any useful discussion on that here.

should i get a pci-ex1 wireless network card or a mobo with one built in?

>>61528335
I've got a Ryzen 1600 so it should be solid. Was gonna get the XG2401 to go with it which I think has a freesync range of 40-144hz.

>>61528609
im doing a similar build. I was considering an x370 mobo for the extra pci express so I could do SLI and buy a second 1080 in the future. that tomahawk only has crossfire support
also buy some fans

>>61528529
Another question: Does the PC have integrated graphics?
The mining craze should blow over whenever Ethereum crashes, which may or may not ever happen. It's weakening at the moment but it could come back at any time.

>>61528712
The cpu comes with a fan, and the case comes with 1. Is that not enough? More case fans?

When will 1080 Ti go back under 800€ reeeee

>>61528609
b350 is fine for a single card

>>61528736
I would. I'm getting two extra fans. they shouldnt cost you much.

Should I sell my i5 6600K and buy a R5 1600/x or wait™ and see if Covefelake Hexa core is compatible with z170 1151?

>>61528940
ehhh

Just Wait™

>>61528940
If you're desperate to upgrade, grab Ryzen. Intel is just running around with their heads cut off right now

For the love of gentoo can anyone identify this GPU?

>>61528887
Cool, don't see myself getting another card for a while.

>>61528887
Might as well.

>>61528986
its a GeForce 8800

is 5400 rpm good enough for vidya or will i feel like punching the shit out of my pc

>>61528450

Never had issues with kingston ram. The one time I did have issues with ram was when I went crucial. Never again.

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>>61528986
Forgot pic related

Surely someone can eye it, MSI

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>>61528723
I believe it does have both dedicated and integrated

This is my current PC https://pcpartpicker.com/list/27DMtJ

I know I'm upgrading my monitor for sure. I'm leaning towards the new Samsung QLED 1440p 144hz 31.5" one but I'm not 100% sure yet.
What upgrades should I look into? Storage is fine for now, I'll throw a nice 128mb cache 4tb HD in it when I run out.
Thinking maybe sell my 6600k for a 7700k and pick up a delid kit too.

Is a non-gaming computer really worth building, or should I go with a prebuilt one?

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Just build this yesterday.
feel satisfied with this for now till next year and then look into upgrading it so more.

>>61529261
always cheaper to build it yourself unless you can find a heavily discounted prebuilt, and even then the manufacturer will cut corners on mobo, psu, and cooling

how hard is it to find hard drives at the dump or in the dumpster behind a best buy?

>>61528609
I'm so scared to buy anything. Anyone have any final critiques for me?

>>61529501
what monitor you got?

>>61529501
add an HDD for mass file storage. 1 TB or 2 TB are recommended. You can get a 1TB WD Blue for like $50, or a 2TB Seagate Barracuda for $66
This is also something you can add later on, so there's that.

>>61529501
while it may be highly recommended, I do not like the Fractal Design R5. if you like it, good for you, but the brushed plastic look SCREAMS cheap to me since it screams at you that it's made from cheap plastic

>>61529555
which case you recommend?

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>new PC
>everything just werks
>download some shit and update drivers
>playing videogame
>sudden weird lag spike, like 10 seconds
>in game ping doesn't react
>suddenly DC
>Ethernet is now borked
>can't ping modem
>other devices work fine connected to same cord
>try to restart PC
>try to disable and re-enabke adapter
>try to roll back drivers

So basically this board somehow nuked its Ethernet port? I'm out of ideas.

Fucking realtek garbage

>>61529531
I currently have a smallish HDD I would be bringing over. I'm thinking 500gb should tide me over for christmas, when I'll get a new one. I assume they'll be at least slightly cheaper per gb or faster rpm by then, right?

>>61529555
I'm very open to case suggestions. I picked that mainly because it says quiet, but eh. Previous case I had in mind was the phanteks Enthoo, but mesh in front scared me.

>>61529581
just go for one with looks you like and isn't too cheap. generally anything over $45 will be decent to build in.
Two of the most recommended cases are the NZXT S340 and the Phanteks Eclipse P400

Is it worth selling my current R9 390 and upgrading to a 580? I already found a 580 for less than 10 bucks more than I've been offered for my 390, but are the current drivers worth the big memory speed loss?

>>61529674
up to you. performance is the same, but power consumption is better

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>tfw next upgrade is gonna have to be CPU, cooling system, mobo, RAM, case, and possibly PSU because I've upgraded myself into a corner

>>61529764
Speaking of which, what full-size towers do you guys like around here? My 980 Ti made me realize how small a mid tower really is.

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should I wait for black friday to build what are the typical price savings should I expect on it. assuming I am builing a current pc. $500~

>>61529674
vega

>>61528609
Just bought cpu/gpu/mobo/ssd/ram! Will report back when I build it!

How is this for a non-gaming PC?
Basically for watching hd movies, web browsing, programming, and PCB Design software (kicad, altium)
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CjGtf8
Case:
http://us.coolermaster.com/product/Detail/case/micro-atx/CMP-351.html

I also plan to add an hdd later

>ancient hp prebuilt
>held together with zip ties and scotch tape
>gpu barely staying inside the pci-e slot (plate is damaged, can't screw it in)
>hard drive has been making clicking noises for a couple years
>still werkz

what year will i be able to torrent a graphics card

>>61530338
looks good then

Hey lads I was thinking of building a new PC, I was wondering what your thoughts on this build was. I am looking for opinions and recommendations

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/guide/3yTwrH/amd-1700x-build-idea

AMD - Ryzen 7 1700X 3.4GHz 8-Core Processor

Cooler Master - Hyper T2 54.8 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler

MSI - X370 GAMING PLUS ATX AM4 Motherboard

G.Skill - Ripjaws V Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4-2400 Memory

ADATA - Ultimate SU800 512GB 2.5" Solid State Drive

EVGA - GeForce GTX 1080 8GB SC2 Gaming iCX Video Card

DIYPC - Gamemax-BK ATX Full Tower Case

EVGA - 750W ATX Power Supply


Also keep in mind these are Canadian prices, because we get cucked in the shipping

>>61530498
Use the 1700+wraith cooler as opposed to the 1700X. 1700 hits 1700X speeds 99% of the time anyway. Buy better RAM, Ryzen needs ram.

>>61530498
1700 is a better value, x370 is only worth it if you plan to sli/crossfire which is inherently not worth it, wraith cooler performs the same if not better than the t2, ram frequency is too low, and the psu is garbage.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TXJqzM

>>61530639
>>61530604
I was thinking of possibly sli or cross fire later, but thanks for the better ram suggestion and yeah I was not sure on the psu

>>61530664
unless you only play a select few AAA games and have alot of money to throw away then sli/crossfire is never worth it. Go for a 1080ti instead.

>>61530498
Your case is pretty weak too, look at cases from decent manufacturers like NZXT, Corsair, Phanteks, etc.

>>61530706
yeah you're probably right, I don't play enough graphically intensive games to justify it

>>61530723
Yeah NZXT does have some nice cases, I was just looking at the DIYPC because it was on sale
Do you think I should go with Mid Tower or Full Tower?

Realistically what is the performance difference I'm likely to get when going from Ryzen 7 up to a Threadripper?

Say I want to run 3 - 4 monitors at a time, playing a game on one, run like two streams/youtube videos, while streaming, and have some video editing and encoding shit going on in the background - would a Ryzen be "sufficient" or should I just go up to the Threadripper and not have to think about it?

how do the older intel 6cores (5820k, 6800k) compare to ryzen?

Wanting to upgrade my 3570k sometime this year to pair up better with my 1080ti for 1440p/144hz vidya on online games at least. I suppose 7700k is unavoidable. I do like running videos on a 2nd monitor, however that probably doesn't warrant a multicore cpu?

Anyone have thoughts on what the best 1080 Ti card is? The primary thing I value is noise levels, both pre and after OCing.

>>61530790
not worth buying an x99 motherboard when b350/x370 boards are much cheaper

>>61530748
T H R E A D R I P P E R

>>61530748
If you really want to do all that shit simultaneously on a regular basis, you'll absolutely see a large benefit from Threadripper.

>>61530748
Threadripper simply because more cores

>>61530821
to follow-up and show i did do some research on my own, my understanding is that the typically recommended options are
-MSI Gaming X
-Asus Strix
-a small number of people plug the Zotac AMP Extreme, but it is met with some vocal resistance
-Random bencnhmarks/charts show Gigabyte Xtreme is in the mix

Any opinions, data, or just anecdotal preference is helpful here. I am aware that noise level sometimes is just luck of the draw with manufacturing and physical properties.

>>61530996
I have the Asus Strix and I love it.
All aftermarket cards perform within the 5% range of each other so really it comes down to aesthetics and price. I got the Asus one cause I am a RGB whore.

>>61527183
Top tier mobo, + looks great

X370 or B350?
Which one should i get?
(I use sound card + 2 Graphics card + WiFi card + M.2 ssd)

>>61531112
X370. You need the extra PCIE lanes.

>>61530996
It doesn't really matter. Only retarded brand whores care about having the latest ANUS STRIX XXX EXTREME GAMING 666. I buy Palit/Gainward cards because they're cheaper than most other options and have excellent, quiet coolers.

>>61531083
>>61531196
again, my main concern is noise level, im aware the performance levels are generally negligible between makers

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I can get either a 6850k or a 6700k for around the price of a 1600x. I'll mostly be gaming and web browsing with an absurd number of tabs open, but I intend to keep this PC for a very long time.

So far, I've heard two conflicting opinions:

>The 6700k has faster single-core performance, uses cheaper motherboards, and produces less heat. You're not doing video editing. You'd have to be a fool to get the 6850k!

>The 6850k has more cores and the full monty of HEDT features (more PCIE lanes, quad channel memory, etc). Everything is moving towards 6+ cores (just look at Coffeelake and Ryzen), and games are finally beginning to take advantage of those threads. You don't want to buy a 4c/8t CPU in 2017. You'd have to be a fool to get the 6700k!

Which should I listen to? I feel like both have merit.

>>61531242
Google benchmarks. I am sure some reviewer out there did so.

>>61531261
Ryzen 1600

>>61531261
Ryzen. I'm on Intel, going to wait for Zen 2. I want that 4.7-5GHz.

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What is the best ATX case for 50$? (aesthetically)

>>61531273
No. The appeal of Ryzen is value. Getting high end performance for low cost. I have the opportunity to buy a 6700k or 6850k for low cost. Thus, Ryzen is irrelevant in my (somewhat unique) situation.

>>61531261
>>61531273
This. Just give a light OC to the 1600 and there you go. Don't forget that the 1600 also comes with a pretty good stock cooler.

>>61531325
>I'll mostly be gaming and web browsing with an absurd number of tabs open
>unique

>>61531301
>>61531348
Read the question my niggas. It's between the 6850k and 6700k. I'm not going to get a Ryzen CPU for this build for the reasons stated >>61531325

me build pc

these components work together?

i5-6400 cpu
rx 550 gpu
msi h110 motherboard
2x 4gb DDR4 288-PIN
SATA 3 2.5 inch SSD
500w of power

this is my first pc build.

question - this GPU apparently uses power from the motherboard's PCI port...will it come with cables for that? will that fuck with mounting?

and is the rx 550 reasonably powerful? what can i compare it to?

>>61531371
"unique" was referring to being able to buy a 6850k or 6700k for $230.....

>>61531409
budget? you can do a lot better than that build.

>>61531393
I think these kind anons are trying to tell you a Ryzen is a better choice than either of the options you've given. Regardless of your notions of price/performance.

>>61531409
GPU won't need PSU cables or any cables at all if it's all powered by the motherboard. Think of the good versions of the 750ti, completely motherboard powered, was once the best budget build GPU in recent years.

>>61531413
Not unique at all nignog.
But if you really want to cuck yourself with Intel get the 6850k. All 6 core Intels throughout the generations have gained a second wind with the coming of Ryzen.

>>61531393
Your reasons make zero sense. A six core Ryzen offers the same performance as a six core Broadwell-E chip and comes with the advantage of not being on a dead platform. Enjoy your "value" of helping Intel clear stock.

>>61531308
Fractal Design Focus G
Corsair Carbide series
Phanteks Eclipse P300

>>61531450

have any suggestions? i just started learning about this shit an hour or so ago

>>61531472

so it will be able to hook right in to the motherboard and draw power directly from that? doesn't that place significant limitations on the size/layout of the case I can get?

>>61531575
>doesn't that place significant limitations on the size/layout of the case I can get?
It's the other way around, motherboard powered GPUs tend to be smol and easy to fit.

>>61531575
What is your budget?
If you can afford the Ryzen 1600, get that.

recommend your favorite cases that are designed with low noise levels in mind, anon. up to $200 , flexible ig uess

Am I a retard for being excited about Vega? I know the performance isn't blowing anyone away, and the power draw is a concern, but if they really do have a GTX 1080 equivalent for noticeably cheaper than that's literally exactly what I was looking for.

Do people really care about TDP? I'm not saying that the higher TDP of Vega isn't a mark against it, but that's about the only fault I can think of if all the information we have so far is accurate.

>>61531635
P400S

>>61531644
>Am I a retard for being excited about Vega?
Yes you are, because you're excited for the wrong reasons.
Think of the drop in stocks. Soon it'll be time to buy-in. If you have any now, it's time to sell.

>>61531587

AHHHH i understand, the gpu is always forced to be perpendicular to the motherboard anyways. ok yes now this is obvious

>>61531593

jesus this looks amazing for only 20-30 more than the i5, what the hell? looks like i am going to need to find a new motherboard etc though if i base things around this cpu.

>>61531644
Higher TDP = hotter card. If you have no issues with high temperatures then no one really cards about that extra 50 dollars you incur annually from using it.

The main problem with Vega is they refuse to show any concrete benchmarks for it. Their latest demo is basically that the vega "feels" the same as the 1080 equivalent which is fucking bullshit in my opinion.

>>61531665

onsecond thought - the main purpose of this build is for a task that requires very high IPC, and my understanding is that the AMD processors pale in comparison to intel's basic IPC count?

>>61531663
>Think of the drop in stocks. Soon it'll be time to buy-in. If you have any now, it's time to sell.
I'm still in that "it's considered a privilege to work here for free" stage of life. Maybe when I actually start getting paid I'll play the stock market but right now I'm not.

I also clearly wasn't focused on finances.

>>61531691
>my understanding is that the AMD processors pale in comparison to intel's basic IPC count?
It is inferior but it doesn't pale in comparison. Maybe a good 10% behind?

>>61531575
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/C83jVY

>>61527764
Those cpus are great for vms and containers. Gaming performance will be pretty meh as they have lowish clocks (less than 3ghz)

>>61531665
Read previous threads in archive for common motherboards and RAM. Important thing is to pick a motherboard and then find RAM that is listed as supported by the manufacturer. Better yet, find a motherboard that has a BIOS flash for babbies button, this makes updating the BIOS really easy, all you'll need is the BIOS update file and a USB.

>>61531663
If you want to gamble on tech stocks, go and buy all the IPS stocks at the moment, the moment NN is gutted, you are going to make a killing.

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Bought below for 480 Cucknadian dollars on kijiji because it wouldn't fit in a guys case and it wasn't used. replaced top. Did I do alright? Wanna add an arctic accelero 4 or an arctic hybrid 3 140 to it

>>61531693
>I'm still in that "it's considered a privilege to work here for free" stage of life
You can easily start buying stocks with only 1k in bank.

>>61531740
>You can easily start buying stocks with only 1k in bank.
Yeah, I have maybe $50 to my name and survive on a $100 two week allowance. You're talking about my food money.

>>61531733
You got cucked. I wouldn't pay more than tree fiddy.

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Are these fine?

>>61531740
If you have 1k, you don't buy stocks. You short stocks.

>>61531733
that's roughly $380 in burgermoney. Not so sure how bad the gpu market is in canadia but i wouldn't have bought it.

>>61531752
The fuck are you doing that you're so poor right now. inb4 student
no drugs
no cigarettes
no alcohol

>>61531702

a key reason i'm interested in a new build is to run an emulator that functions on only 2 cores max and apparently requires very high IPC - i don't want to buy the ryzen only to be let down by some sort of integral flaw in the functionality of the processor.

in addition, i don't think i'd find a huge difference personally between the 2 CPUs, as i've been doing OK on just a core 2 duo..

>>61531762
>>61531785
i couldn't find one any cheaper anywhere in my area. the best i've seen where 500-550. buying gpu's sucks nowadays but its even worse with the worthless canadian dollar

>>61531767
Is the RAM compatible? that's really the only worry

>>61531803
Which emulator? You can trying googling for benchmarks for that emulator with Ryzen.

>>61531810
and it's about to get worse thanks to the 15 dollar minimum wage bump coming up
and the fucked up property tax of %15 increase

>>61531792
Law firm intern in a big city, everything is expensive and I hate it.

>>61531635
Define C
Define R5
Carbide 400Q
Kublai KL07
Purebase 600

>>61531816

dolphin emulator, runs gamecube games

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1k12sv1NXGGuSOY0NhsuONtRCte51GHKdgA7ciL76mBs/edit

here is a benchmark test...i don't know how to read it

>>61531812
Haven't checked yet thanks

What speed do i want for ddr4? 3000MHz or 3200Mz?

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>>61531803
>run an emulator
posting obligatory ryzen emulating two emulators at the same time

>>61531827
So let me get this straight, you don't fucking get paid at all for any work right now?

>>61531841
Lower time = better

>>61531847
3000Mhz is sweet spot

>>61531866
Not him but that is normally how internships work.

>>61531866
That's how all soft sciences are. I didn't get paid for working a full-time internship with a DA's office, I didn't get paid for working a DC internship, I didn't get paid for my basically required Pro Bono work obviously, and I sure as fuck don't get paid for any of my journal writing either.

You have no idea how much I hate myself for being a political science major and for going to law school, it was the worst mistake of my life. Hopefully this is the last year they can get away with this bullshit.

>>61531849
>those jacked up shadows in Xenosaga

PCSX2 is such an irredeemable piece of shit.

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New pc
(8GB VRAM instead of 4GB)

>>61531905
>>61531910
sad
then how the hell are you even eating, your parents give you an allowance?

>>61531648
>>61531836
thanks anons ill look into these. appreciate the response, cheers.

>>61531933
Normally if your company isn't completely fucking shit, they give you a monthly allowance which is so fucking minimal it might as well be welfare money tier.

>>61531933
>then how the hell are you even eating, your parents give you an allowance?
Yep

>>61531944
>>61531949
rageworthy

looks like for my emulator...

AMD RYZEN 5 1600 6-CORE had a time of
>7m 43s
while another guy with a 1600x overclocked to 3.7ghz had a time of 10m 30s

wtf? how do i know how well mine would do?

either way the i5-6500 got between 6 and 7m 10s minutes for 2 recorded tests.

why would i not get the i5 over the 1600?

>>61531998
>wtf? how do i know how well mine would do?
RAM, it comes down to the RAM
RAM with high freq is essential for Ryzen to be any good

>>61532014

still the i5 seems to outperform...so if i got dual 8gb in either the i5 would win at this task

>>61532035
Win at what task? Running Dolphin's benchmark? You're going to sit there all day running Dolphin's benchmark and masturbating to the results or something? As long as every game runs at 100% speed, something I could achieve in Dolphin on a fucking overclocked Phenom II (including the most demanding Wii stuff like Xenoblade Chronicles and The Last Story), why would you care?

>>61532035
Yes. intel processors have better single core performances. If all you ever do is emulate and nothing else, get the i5. Otherwise the trade off will be worth getting a Ryzen.

>>61532035
>i5
have you emulated on Intel only so far?
I'd still get a 1600 and OC it to 3.7-3.9GHz
Intel i5s are a dead end

>>61532035
it outperforms until Ryzen is given fast ram.
Rysen is 2 CCX complexes, each one containing 4 cores. They are connected by AMD's infinity fabric. The infinity fabric runs at the speed of the ram. so the ram speed directly affects how well the CPU communicates with itself (cz 1 talking to ccx 2).
For lower core count models like the 1600 or 1400, there's still 8 total cores. But underperforming cores have been deactivated sequentially, so each CCX always has the same number of activated cores.

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I'm ready to take my VIDEO GAMING PROWESS to the next level.

Do I get this or the LG 24GM77-B if I want a 144hz? Or are they all the same and should I just get an Asus VG248QE?

So will these 8th gen Intel CPUs be worth waiting for at all? Seems like they're sacrificing clock speeds for meme cores.

>>61532060
how do i know what benchmark time constitutes a 100% speed?

>>61532067
i play league and emulate SSBM. this PC will be used for nearly nothing else. i have a chromebook i use for everything else, I prefer the OS for general web browsing etc.

>>61532095
so i'll have to shill out for crazy ram?

>>61532100
Freesync or Kikesync?

>>61532105
A 6-core Coffee Lake i7 will be well matched against an 8 core R7, I'd imagine.

>>61532118
>shill
shell

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>>61532060
>The Last Story
Shit was unplayable on a sandy bridge mobile i7 downclocked to 2.2Ghz.

are pretty much all external drives 5400rpm?

>>61532123
Nvidia, so neither. I don't wanna pay $200 just for gsync.

>>61532145

thanks for the catch

>>61532131
Lets see if the intel is sandbagging themselves meme is true or will they actually remove their training weights.

>>61532118
>how do i know what benchmark time constitutes a 100% speed?
sandy bridge is the cutoff, if it's weaker than sandy bridge, chances are it won't run 100%

>>61532163
>Wants to take Gaming prowess to next level
>Doesn't want to invest in Kikesync
You fucking retard

>>61532118
>so i'll have to shill out for crazy ram?
The fastest ram Ryzen currently officially supports is 3200 mhz, though some have gotten 3600 mhz to work

How is this for a first computer? Friend put it together for me, would appreciate additional input before I commit.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ydhdVY

>>61532196
do we know anything about what the fastest ram threadripper supports is?

>>61532200
your friend is retarded and hasn't kept up with technology in the last few months. Give me a moment and I'll fix it for ya

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>>61532131
What about from the perspective of someone with a 4770k?
http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-4770K/3647vs1537

I see that even just 2 generations has created a significant performance gap. Whatever the case may be, I know that I'm going to be replacing the majority of my PC when I upgrade, and probably go for liquid cooling.

>>61532200
what games are you going to play?

>>61532221
>4770k
Needs to be delidded, or replaced with a 4790k for the marginally better TIM.

>>61532118
3000mhz isn't a great deal more expensive than your average 2400mhz, maybe $15 difference between corresponding 16gb

>>61532204
not at the moment. We won't know until Threadripper releases. Threadripper is just 2 Ryzen chips on one chip though so I'd imagine it's similar.

>>61532118
>how do i know what benchmark time constitutes a 100% speed?

The benchmark is utterly meaningless for that purpose. Not every game requires the same amount of CPU power either. A Ryzen chip will run every single game at 100% speed though, even at stock, so it doesn't matter.

>>61532147
It's one of the most demanding games there is on Dolphin.

>>61532169
As I said before, earlier this year I was using a Phenom II X6 1090T overclocked to 4GHz, and everything ran at full speed in Dolphin, so you don't even need Sandy Bridge IPC (even in that state the Phenom II couldn't touch a stock 2600K for single thread performance). Dolphin is a LOT less CPU-demanding than it used to be.

>>61532212
Thanks man.

>>61532227
Not even sure, I'm pretty new to PC gaming so I'm sure he'll find some crazy shit to start me on.

>>61532245

but why would i spring for the more expensive 1600 with the more expensive RAM when it seems unlikely that it would perform better at the emulation?

>>61532261

>will run every game at 100% at stock

do I have reason to believe the less expensive i5 wouldn't?

>>61532174
Cmon man, I don't play cs, only dota and lol. I'm high mmr though!

>>61532287
More expensive compared to what?
If all you care for is IPC then just save money and get the G4600

>>61532200
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YpcVKZ

tell your friend he's a knucklehead

>>61532287
I got a funny feeling that Dolphin emulation or emulation in general isn't the only thing you're going to be doing, so you'll end up regretting the i5 like a number of faggots do in speccy threads

>>61532287
>do I have reason to believe the less expensive i5 wouldn't?

No. But if you're ONLY going to be using your computer to run Dolphin, you should forget both of them and buy a Pentium. Dolphin only uses two cores, and a Skylake/Kaby Lake Pentium will easily run everything at full speed, so you don't need anything more.

>>61532325
This SSD is, iirc, VBOM and crap.
This is a better option
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/RzfmP6/pny-internal-hard-drive-ssd7cs1311120rb

>>61532316
Then just get a simple 144hz TN monitor.

>>61532323

the i5 6400

>>61532337

emulation and league, that is it. casual web browsing at most, unlikely to even be streaming anything.

>>61532353
>>61532323

ah, but the latest version of dolphin is only x64 compatible, aren't these x86 only?

>>61532387
>aren't these x86 only?

No.

>>61532200
listen to these guys anon
>>>61532325
>>>61532364

>>61532366
Well yeah, so can you help me with which one to get? Does it not matter?

>>61532353
>Dolphin only uses two cores
3 cores actually

>>61532387
No. The G6400.

>>61532235
Are you some kind of madman?

>>61532402
Do you have a budget?

>>61532267
here.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fz3jVY
You don't need top of the line things like a liquid cooled (last generation) graphics card. a 1060 6GB should be more than capable. Graphics card prices are pretty fucked right now because of crypto currency miners buying everything in bulk. the 1060 I selected normally goes for $80 cheaper.

The Ryzen 5 1600 from AMD offers CLOSE to i7 performance for much cheaper. It's also less likely to stutter or frame drop due to having more cores and threads. It's the best value CPU on the market currently.

>>61532393

okay -- would they be able to run league well? how do i know?

>>61532428
Under $300, which should cover everything without gsync. I just want whatever 144hz is the best deal.

>>61532437
>nex
don't touch those units, go with g2/g3 if you want evga.

>>61532387
X64 just means you need a 64 bit operating system. All modern processors are capable of that. In fact, AMD invented the 64 bit architecture. That's why it's sometimes still known as the AMD 64

>>61532406
Only if you choose to use LLE, and there's really no reason to now that HLE is practically perfect.

>>61532439
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TouKjpUROPM

>>61532437
The SSD listed here is garbage, and the PSU is mediocre.
Get >>61532364 for an SSD
And
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/9q4NnQ/evga-power-supply-220g20650y1
for a PSU (assuming you want to stick with EVGA, but there are lots of good choices).

>>61526997
I was playing games and I checked my PC temps because I was sweating and my room was hot and my GPU and motherboard were like 90 degrees and suddenly shut off. I could smell the smoke and when I touched my computer it was hot as fuck. I opened my PC case to let it cool off for an hour and when I came back to it to turn it on, it wouldn't power on. I unplugged the Power cable and plugged it in and pushed the power button. My gpu light where the pin connectors go are lit up green and my hyper 212 ego spins for like 1/2 a second then stops. Also my motherboard lights are on so I think this is a PSU problem?

>>61532471

gtx 1050ti - i dont have the money for this

>>61532485
Smoke is a major problem.
Something may have died. Possibly PSU. Get a known good unit and try to see if it works.

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Would I be bottlenecked if I got a 1080 Ti?

>>61532448
BenQ XL2411

>>61532523
On 1080p? Yes
On 1440p? No

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>>61532523
Depends on if the games you play are CPU or GPU dependent.

I have a 2×4gb 3000mhz ram can i add 2×8 gb 3000mhz or 2×16gb 3000mhz?

>>61532543
You shouldn't.

>>61532536
Ok, thanks. Does the vg248qe succ?

>>61532493
What GPU you pair with it is irrelevant. The point was to show that the CPU is capable of running it well. Even a shitty Intel iGPU is capable of running it in a playable state.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lvEFErC8bEE

>>61532541

ssbm - apparently CPU dependent.

>>61532552
If you are okay with TN. Yeah.

>>61532548
But can i? I don't want to throw the ram i currently have.

>>61532536
>>61532541
Playing games like Overwatch, Witcher III, Middle Earth, Nier, Prey, etc @ 1440p

>>61532506
It has shut off like that a couple times last year and I would smell smoke. I would leave it alone and it would work next time I turn it on. I just think I want to sell it to build a new one because fuck my AMD- FX 8320 and Radeon HD 7870 2gb

>>61532563
>ssbm
>buys 1080ti
What?

>>61532570
>But can i?
We don't know. Sometimes different kits will place nice and work. Sometimes they won't. It is a lottery.

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>>61532506
Picture related 1/2

>>61532573
>It has shut off like that a couple times last year and I would smell smoke
You are a fool and deserve any dead components now in your possession.
New, quality PSUs go for as little as $30.

>>61532576

i think you've misunderstood

my plan is to buy an i5-6400 and an RX 550. im being convinced to spend an extra $20 for a ryzen 1600.

i don't think it's worth the extra $20 for processor + extra money in RAM, because the ryzen has lower IPC out of the box.

>>61532572
Yeah. It should be an issue. If you feel the bottleneck go push your CPU harder. You can OC is above 3.4ghz.

>>61532587
Both are Corsair vengeance LPX. Does that give higher chances?

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>>61532506
2/2

>>61532610
I'm currently running at 4.4GHz.

>>61532607
You are replying to the wrong reply thread.

>>61532625

you're right.

>>61532613
We don't know.

>>61532624
Then it should be fine.

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>>61532596
>>61532614

>>61532523
If it is fully overclocked, you will bottleneck, but only occasionally.

>>61532644
Those were taken months ago when it still worked. The lights on the gpu and mobo still light up

>>61526997
what mushroom is that?

>>61532684
It's OC'd to 4.4GHz. I could probably take a few hundred MHz higher but I'd prefer not to in the interest of longevity.

>>61532716
Even supposing someone could tell you, he could be totally wrong in a geographic context.
Mushrooms that are totally identical in appearance can have totally different effects.

6850k for $230 or 6700k for $230?

(Asking again because I confused everyone with too many details)

And, no, I'm not going to get a 1600 or 1600x. It's between the 6850k or 6700k, both for $230 shipped.

>>61528293
GTX1030 is useless, go for a used card. For around $100 on ebay, you can pick up a 960 or a 750ti. (If I'm allowed to solicit in such a way), I can sell you my old ASUS 750 for $50. Basically similar performance to the 1030, but for half the price.

AT THE VERY LEAST: get 8gb of ram (used off ebay from a good seller) and definitely get a different card. Older, more powerful, or save your cash for a slightly better one. Tech Deals on youtube is pretty good for the budget cards.

>>61532716
it's a psilocybe cubensis

>>61532691
It doesn't matter when they were taken. Motherboard manufacturers don't waste money on extra components just for show. They were there to help smooth out power delivery to something. The cumulative effect of them NOT being there doing whatever they were doing has now reached the point where it's caused something crucial to fail.

Either that, or your PSU has caused something crucial to fail, just like it probably caused that damage in the first place. Whatever the case, it doesn't matter. The board's dead. The fact that some parts of it are still getting power is irrelevant. It won't ever boot again.

>>61532790
You already got plenty of (You)s offering you good advice last time and decided to ignore them. Kill yourself.

>>61532788
>t. retard

I can't decide between a Ryzen 1600/1700 or i7-7700k. I'm going with a 1070 regardless of what CPU I get, but I'm stuck on this.

Objective is to play mostly flight simulators like XPlane 11 and some other vidya like PUBG. Running 2 monitors at 1920x1080 but I only game on one. Doubt I'll stream or edit videos either

Also, anyone else holding off as long as possible on their builds? I refuse to pay 450-500 for a card that retails for 400..

Noob here, so I built my PC couple of years back and it seems like my GPU Geforce GTX 670 had some sort of hardware failure, as doing a clean format of my system didn't fix the issue.

Is there anything I should know about upgrading to a new card or is the process pretty straightforward? Just taking out the old card and installing the new one?

>>61532790
Moar corez.

>>61532822
t. drug addict

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Can the passmark benchmark scores be taken seriously?

>>61529261
Depends on what your budget is and how sketchy you want to go. You can kick ass with a i7-2700K refurb system, with the caveat that it will be a little janky sometimes. If you're in the 7-800 range, a Cyberpower or iBuypower MAY be cheaper than a custom build. Once you get into higher budgets (Alienware areas), always custom build.

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>>61532827
>i7-7700k
Until Intel starts using solder again, forget about it.

>>61528529
keep your 7850

>>61529654
An intel Pro/1000MT is only like 10 bucks.

>>61532841
It's useful as a rough ballpark.

>>61532818
>You already got plenty of (You)s offering you good advice last time and decided to ignore them.
>good advice

Only one guy actually addressed the question. The other 4 insisted that a third option (1600) was better, without explaining their reasoning.

>>61532831
Switch drivers as necessary.

>>61532859
Yeah I was worried about the overheating issues I've been hearing about, and definitely not something I want to worry about. Now the tough choice is 1600 or 1700

>>61532839
>identifying common hallucinogens equates to drug addiction
boy you're a fucking retard.

>>61532889
I replied to you, recommended a Ryzen chip and I know that I explained my reasoning. So you're full of shit and are just looking for more sweet (You)s by presenting two shit choices.

See my more recent advice for how to proceed from here.

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>>61531325
Meh. A 6800k isn't Skylake-X, it's broadwell-E. It's under the 1600 when it comes to multi-threaded tasks (yes, gets beat in x264 even with the extra memory channels), and isn't better enough in single core performance to be relevant. Only thing it has going for it would be it's ability to reach higher clockspeed.
And you're still paying not only $30 more for the CPU, but more importantly a seperate cooler along. That's $60 (minimum) more than for an R5 1600 which would allow you to either get a really good cooler, or decent cooler and better RAM (which would pretty much nullify the small gap there is in single core for gaming workloads)
The R5 1600 also isn't on a dead platform. No need to buy a new motherboard and RAM once you get a new CPU. That's at the very least $210 saved right here.

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do any of you know the model number for a 5tb fire wire lacie external drive that has this case?

>>61532925
He's already been told all this and doesn't care. He wants his """""cheap""""" Intel CPU from their summer shill discount scheme, so let him be. You don't have to live with his bad decisions.

>>61532898
PUBG is player unknown battlegrounds?
This is Ryzen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osQWP0tSCkM

What do you think?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zDfRPs
I haven't choosed a graphics card because all mid range cards are out of stock and i am waiting for vega. What are good cheap graphics card?

>>61532965
Search on ebay for any Kepler cards. Those should hold you over.

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>>61532998
>Kepler
As long as it's not Fermi.

>>61533024
Nice vape bro. What is your juice flavor? I like the intel i9 flavor

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>>61533024
>Fermi, powered by Ferrari

>>61533087
dumb furfag

What is the most I can hope for in terms of upgrading this thing? https://support.hp.com/us-en/document/c00820224#AbT0

The RAM limit is 4GB, which is a problem, but I have seen people claiming that it can go above that rating to 6GB or 8GB.

It also says that it does not support something like a Q6600, but they are like $15 on ebay, so I figured I would take a stab at it anyway.

The first thing I would add is an inexpensive SSD, and then possibly find a decent 550w PSU and a mid-tier GPU for a bit of gaymens.

Any chance of success here?

>>61533127
Stop being a cheap fuck.

>>61533141
I'm just being a cheap fuck slowly. I don't have enough money to outright buy a new machine, so I am just going to accumulate the parts I want over time using the prebuilt as a base.

>>61533127
I wouldn't try sticking in anything out of spec.

>>61532925
>>61532959
I don't understand why you two are so dead set on the 1600/1600x. The 6850k is more-or-less comparable to the 1600x in performance, but has the bonus of HEDT features. The 6700k has considerably better single core performance than the 1600x. Since I can acquire all three of these CPUs for the same price, I don't see why I would choose the 1600/1600x. It seems to me that it has the least going for it.

>dead platform

We don't know for sure what the future holds for AM4. It seems likely that it will support Zen 2, but we don't know that for sure, and we don't know if Zen 2 will even be worth upgrading to.

>>61533127
>HP
Oh hell no.

>>61533186
Damn. 4GB is a killer.
>>61533195
Sorry, senpai. It's what I have right now. Gotta make the best of it.

>>61533209
Stick a linux distro in.

>>61533209
The SSD will make everything feel snappy, though if it's SATA II it won't be to its full potential.
It's rated for only Core 2 Duo E6x00 and PC2 5300 (667 MHz) DDR2 DIMMs, 4GB.

Essentially any GPU you put in will be bottlenecked.

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>>61533191
>but has the bonus of HEDT features
Which features are you referring to?

>We don't know for sure what the future holds for AM4. It seems likely that it will support Zen 2, but we don't know that for sure
AM4 is set to last until end of 2019, Zen 2 is mid 2018. Zen2 will be on it for sure, even if they haven't officially announced it.

>and we don't know if Zen 2 will even be worth upgrading to.
That entirely depends on how well will Intel compete, and considering they have 0 new architecture until 2020 and that Coffee Lake is just gonna be more Kaby-Lake cores that perform worse (by Intel's own slides), the path is pretty much clear for Zen2 regardless of how much it improves over Ryzen. Intel can't compete on price either.

>>61533263
Which would you recommend that is use friendly? I am not super familiar with Linux.
>>61533291
What tends to happen when you go outside of the rated specs for motherboards like these? Do they just cease to function? Or can you get lucky?

>>61533291
The SSD and GPU I install will eventually get moved to a newer build when I have the funds.

>>61533334
It probably just won't work, or you may get lucky. You never know.
As a general principle, I don't like fucking around with that stuff. If it tells you do not do X, don't do X.

>>61533294
>Which features are you referring to?
40 PCIE lanes, quad channel memory, etc.

>AM4 is set to last until end of 2019, Zen 2 is mid 2018. Zen2 will be on it for sure, even if they haven't officially announced it.
>even if they haven't officially announced it.
As I said, we don't know for sure. Seems likely and logical, but it's unconfirmed.

>That entirely depends on how well will Intel compete, and considering they have 0 new architecture until 2020 and that Coffee Lake is just gonna be more Kaby-Lake cores that perform worse (by Intel's own slides), the path is pretty much clear for Zen2 regardless of how much it improves over Ryzen. Intel can't compete on price either.
None of this matters if you already have a Ryzen CPU. If Zen 2 only offers 200mhz clock over Zen 1, and increases TDP, it might still beat Intel, but there would no reason to upgrade from Zen 1.

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>>61533294
>That chart

So is it true, then? That AMD will replace Intel as the premier consumer processor provider?

>buy $10 scythe clip stream for my mini-itx thin build
>amazon sends me $30 be quiet fan instead

what the fuck this is the only time i've ever been sent the wrong thing by amazon and i can't use it in my tiny case
kill me

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>>61533490
No, but we are getting back to the "good old leap frog" competition which was the state of competition before Intel bribing OEMs and Bulldozer flop.

>>61529501
well idk what state you live in but as long as you dont live in NY or NJ then you can get tax free purchases at B&H Photo and Video, with free shipping. not sure if other companies such as Newegg do the same but if taxes worry you then go B&H. Just built a similar pc with most from B&H everything went well. btw make sure your memory is compatible and make sure when you boot to bios you set ram timings manually to the qvl specs right from the start if theyre not already set. had to set mine manually and prior to setting them it was BSOD and nothing but problems. I set them proper and now it hasnt crashed once and is running smooth and buttery

>>61533389
Fair enough. Is it even possible to play games with 4GB of RAM anymore?

why the hell are most graphics cards forced to ventilate vertically in the middle of the case? wouldnt you want them blowing directly out a vent? it also blows the heat onto the other card if you have 2.

>>61533559
Yes.
Not well, but it's the CPU that's going to hold you back most of all imo.

>>61533559
Yes and no.
Some light games might be OK, but most games at the moment start to show lag with 8gb if you have even few things in the background. At that point you are going to see a lot of pagefile rape on your drive. 16Gb recommended by me.

>>61533563
reference designs are shit and you're dumb cus that air gets sucked out of the case anyway and dual gpu is shit for gaming and you can just buy a mobo where pci-e slots arent so close to each other

>>61533532
So the best buy, for at least the next few months, is agreed to be AMD? I'm also reading about all of these problems with heat the current Intel shit has.

>>61533613
doesnt matter what distance apart they are. one will blow on the other and heat it.

>>61533630
yes

>>61533634
no, it blows on it's own card which then gets dispersed into the rest of the chassi, which then gets sucked out of the case, you stupid fuck.

>>61533590
>>61533612
Would I at least be able to play a game like, say, Skyrim at mid to high settings? What about Overwatch?

>>61533660
Again, it's the CPU that's going to kill you. You'd be restricted to older games. I have no idea how newer games would run, but my guess is badly.

>>61533660
You could just fire up google. https://youtu.be/cz4Q1srpHbc

>>61533660
a toaster can play overwatch

>>61532788
they're very recognizable especially considering the context as anon clearly grew them on purpose. or do you live in such a shithole that mushrooms that grow out of your graphics card are a common occurrence

>>61532839
t. underage summerfag

Thinking of getting the Mad Max game. My planned build will easily handle it. I just wanna know how the game is. Looks awesome and has good reviews on steam.

>>61533723
>>>/v/

>>61533684
>>61533701
>>61533704
There is hope yet. If I can't find anything better on Craigslist I might go ahead and go for it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bWDK9W

i'm trying to make something under 500. Is this build ok to start off with?

>>61533744
Get a 3GB 1060 and a 200+ GB SSD for $20 more.

>>61529017
It's well enough for most games that pre cache most stuff since most PC for gaming have 16gb RAM nowaday

>>61533736
just buy a gtx 560 and max out the ram, you cant do anything else on that old prebuilt that wont require you to replace everything except the case.

>>61533744
depends on what you want to do with it

>>61533777
I pretty much am just looking to run most games at a playable setting. I don't care too much about high settings

>>61532839
>addict
>mushrooms
yeah only a person that has zero experiences with these substances would say something like that

>>61533804
modern games will barely be playable even if you turn shit to low and 720p or lower. i tried with my core2quad and a gtx 470.

anything more than a 560 will be choked by your CPU (even that will choke it but but they're cheap and plenty of them second hand).

you should start saving up money and sell that junker to upgrade everything.

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Can someome help me choose a motherboard,cpu, and cooler that will be upgradable to other cool pc stuff in the future? Making a pc $500 max

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jZHM8

>>61533896
R3 1200 and $60 for some mobo, B350 if possible. Maybe one of the Asrock ones

Made this build for my Dad. He's an AMD fan, and his current desktop can't handle the games he wants. This should hit everything he wants.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nH2YFd

>>61533896
save more money and buy the shit you want so you dont waste hundreds of dollars upgrading later cus you wont get back a fraction of the cost when you sell your old shit

Tossing up between a MSI B350 Tomahawk for $170 and a Asus Prime X370-Pro for $230. Is it worth dropping a little extra money on the mobo considering it will be used for my next build as well?

>>61533924
looks good except remove the HDD and get a bigger SSD.
maybe get a rx 570 instead when the price drops.

>>61533971
only if it has more features you want and/or better quality parts (like vrm/chokes to OC).

>>61533896
Ryzen 3 1200 with a good B350 motherboard sounds perfect for you. The AM4 platform is guaranteed to last through 2020 minimum and has a solid upgrade path to 8 cores and 16 threads at the moment, with more on the way. Ryzen 3 hits stores in like 3 days

>>61533972
The SSD is only for the OS. He'll store everything on the HDD, including games. I would get a larger SSD for my own, and I plan to, but this is the bare minimum that will support his needs.

>>61533971
If you OC a lot and need the extra PCI-E get the X370 other the B350 will do.

>>61534007
that's dumb

>>61534071
The man is in his mid-60s. I find it amazing he's into video games at all.

>>61534113
no, you're dumb because you're only putting the OS on the SSD, not whatever you think i meant.

you can add a hard drive later if he needs it, im sure he'll enjoy the faster load times.

>>61534007
that's fine

>>61534025
>>61534091
>>61534096
>>61534121
>>61534132
H-h-hey guise, i'm r-r-right. We should get rid of 7700k for 144hz gaming. 1700x is the new king!

>>61534138
you can still fit some games on it and you can get another SSD later and use the HDD for media storage

Looking at buying a new monitor, I have a 980, what should I get to max out the value of the card?

I was hoping to get a 144hz monitor for FPS games like PUBG and CSGO, but I have no idea what sort of monitors are best...

>>61534166
Find a Kikesync TN monitor with 144hz.

>>61534138
What's with the HDD hate? He'll never notice. The only thing he notices is the response time of the OS, and the internet speed.

>>61534163
it's cheaper and easier to get a big main drive from the start and adding storage later when you need it.

>>61534166
a 120hz+ that passes the UFO test

>>61534182
>HDD hate
no just dumb people

and you can get twice the capacity for just a couple tenners more.

and i'm sure he'll notice if you actually show him a comparison

>>61534153
No shitposting please.

>>61534166
>>61534188
Have you got any recommendations? I was looking for a monitor with G-sync but I can't find one...

>>61534275
1700x is better for 144hz though! Change OP!
>>61534153
>>61526997

>>61534287
no, but
>paying $150 extra for memesync
dont let the jew win

>>61534321
Get Freesync and wait™ for Vega

>>61534345
with the money he'll save on the monitor he could sell his current gpu and get amd

>>61534345
Isn't G-sync for Nvidia cards though?

>>61534378
see >>61534372

>>61534372
And double as a free heater in the winter.

>>61534385
What I meant was, isn't it more effective for nvidia cards

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Do I pull the trigger on this most likely from cryptomining.

eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/122614056112

>>61534394
G-sync is superior to Freesync.

>>61534394
you can run freesync on nvidia cards because they block it with software cus they're kikes.

>>61534423
To be fair the extra cause comes from ensure proper standards are applies to the modules that come with monitors.

Because Freesync is open source, every manufacturer has their own implementation and version of their modules. Some do it properly and you get good results. Some don't, they just toss the module in and charge you for it resulting in a total shitfest when you actually try use it. Just google it yourself and see.

>>61534415
>>61534423
https://www.umart.com.au/umart1/pro/Products-details.phtml?id=&id2=143&bid=2&sid=294587

https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37084/asus-pg248q-rog-swift-24in-esports-g-sync-180hz-gaming-monitor

What are these 2 monitors like? Are they any good?