>Sir, you're going to have to decrypt your laptop right now

AM I BEING DETAINED?

>>61512691
I forgot the key :^)

>>61512699
AM I BEING DETAINED?
I DO NOT CONSENT TO A SEARCH
MY WINDOW IS WOUND ALL THE WAY UP WHICH MEANS I DO NOT CONSENT TO TALKING TO YOU
I AM A SOVEREIGN CITIZEN PLEASE GET AWAY YOU ARE VIOLATING MY RIGHTS
CAN I GO
AM I BEING DETAINED
WHY ARE YOU ACTING SO HOSTILE I AM JUST A SOVEREIGN CITIZEN ENACTING MY GOD GIVEN RIGHTS YOU'RE NOT DETAINING ME SO LET ME GO
I'M GOING TO NEED TO SEE A SEARCH WARRANT

>>61512711
That's not an excuse, you're going to be held in contempt of court and imprisoned until you provide the decryption keys

>>61512715
you get shot for yelling and making the cop feel like his life is in danger.

>>61512691
>Laptop
What do I look like, some normie?

>Inputs wrong key n times
>Laptop deletes all data

>>61512715
>I DO NOT CONSENT
Makes you sound like some whiney feminist, I'd just shoot you anyway

>>61512727

Hidden container?

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>>61512691
*drone stealthily appears out of nowhere and shoots the police officer faster than any human can react*

heh... dont touch my human... kiddo...

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>>61512691
I can't do that officer
there is sensitive company data on it

I don't encrypt my hard drives since the government requires you to unencrypt them upon search, and if you don't you're held for contempt. You only lose with encryption.

>>61512691
>type in password1234
>let him have a look to my decoy normie OS

Not RCMP and I haven't even been tazed yet.
This is going good so far.

"Just type rm -rf in this terminal program and everything will unlock, sir."

I have a normal notebook how i doing normies shits and a hidden encrypted vm for my power lvl shit, so no problem.

>I refuse
>The officer fires
>holding up my thinkpad it deflects the bullet into the officer's vest
>i take my thinkpad, and lay a single blow against the stunned officer's head
>the skull shatters instantly mincing the officer's brain with their own shards of cranium
>their dying hand reaches for the totem in their pocket, an iPhone, but their false idol shan't save them today
>I close my car door and speed of
>another day, another victim, for i am the holder of the thinkpad.

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>>61512691
Oy vey, antisemite.

>>61512784
But u are NEET.

If you were to activate ransomware on it, what would be the next legal step, assuming they don't know you put it on there yourself (i.e. you downloaded the virus knowingly)?

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Sir, i have the right do not produce evidence against myself.

>>61512896
STOP RESISTING

BANG BANG BANG

>>61512861
no u

>>61512896
no you don't, i have a warrent

>>61512914
>BANG BANG BANG
Not if i have a gun too. better be jailed than dead.

>>61512896
Nigger, shoot on site.

>>61512944
>implying the blue line will take you alive

>>61512914
Not if i have a gan too. Better jailed than dead.

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>>61512691

>>61512956
He won't. Because he will be dead.

>>61512983
I'm talking about his buddies. Departments go full ham on cop killers

>>61512998
Not always.

t. cop killer

>>61512998
For defend myself?

>>61512691
Officer, I forgot my password. Even if I want to, I can't access my laptop.
I will have to format the HDD and reinstall Gentoo later this day.

>not having a custom setup that when given a certain key pretends to decrypt but is really booting into a dummy OS on another harddisk while the original remains encrypted and hidden

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>"Sure"
>enters password
>cop looks at all my porn
>traps and other shit
>nothing illegal though
>that's it
>who cares

>>61513111
"Could you give me a source on that pissing tranny webm?"

>>61512711
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>61512856
Kek

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>>61512691

>>61512715
SIR, STOP RESISTING ARREST
PUT THE WEAPON DOWN
*GUN SHOTS*

[YOU DIED]

>>61513265
lol why is he freaking out over a monitor being taken

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>>61513265
Source?

>>61513336
This is a all in one from 90s.

>>61513337
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113243

>>61513110
Is that actually possible?

>>61513212
Caret

>>61512727
This isnt the UK u noob. 5th amendment protects you from testifying agaisnt yourself or being forced to provide evidence against yourself.

>>61513403
>have 2 disk
>set bios to boot for in normie os
>always in boot time press key to choose the encrypted os
>profit

>>61512691
excuse me, but the proper pronoun to refer to me by is "xir".

>>61513035
Um yes? If the cops get the wrong address and no knock you at 3 am and you kill one you are absolutely fucked.

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>>61513470

B-but it's not encrypted. All my files just happen to be random noise.

>>61513403
Bootcamp lets you boot into OSX if you don't touch anything and the partition boot menu if you hold down a certain key.

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Decrypt? I don't understand what you mean officer?? It's all here?

>mfw LUKS data is not in a partition and does not have a header attached to it
>mfw headers are located on a playable DVD
>mfw the KDF used to get the loopback decryption key for the header file has over 20,000 iterations and takes 20 minutes to run on my airgapped cluster


HAHA LOL GOOD LUCK LOL HAHA

>>61513439
>he really thinks the government gives a shit about your rights
You'll just end up committing suicide with two gunshots to the back of the head.

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Right away sir

>>61512691
Good thing I use a Marutukku filesystem.

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>>61512691
-Promptly assumes the position-

>>61512715
Are you actually allowed to do this meme?

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>>61512691
Officer, I have literally thousands of files encrypted in gpg, each in a trucrypt container, all on an encrypted home directory on a LUKs partition.

My partition tables got fucked up and the cylinder blocks on my HDD are misaligned.


Will LEAs recover my files in a week's time, /g/? Assume they have any user-prompted passwords.

>>61513439
No, they already ruled that passwords don't work like that. They can issue a warrant for your passwords and hold you indefinitely if you don't comply.

>>61512715
>I DO NOT CONSENT TO A SEARCH
>I'M GOING TO NEED TO SEE A SEARCH WARRANT
only valid argument unless if the cop claims 'probable cause' which is so nebulous it could mean anything

>>61513982
the cant compel you to tell them anything, even passwords.

proofs or fake.

>>61513978
They'll get those keys out of you after a day of beatings.

I will exercise my right to not say or do anything without first speaking to a lawyer. You have a right to see my identification and nothing more.

>>61514019
They keys are in my .gpg folder but the names are wrong. Will they know enough match the fingerprint to the file? or will they get confused that that bitUNlocker.exe isn't working?

>>61514019
literally purpose of a Marutukku filesystem.

>>61512691
>enter password
>SSD immediately vaporized by a thermite charge

>>61513964
No if you are in a car, police only need probable cause for cars
Yes if you are in your house, the only time you have to let anybody into your house is with a court ordered search warrant.

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>>61514030
>Hey he's got a gun! He's reaching for his gun!
>BANG BANG

>>61514098

I'm white.

>>61512715
Watching videos of sovcits getting owned on youtube is a pleasurable past time of mine.

>>61512727
what if there's no decryption key?

AM I BEING DETAINED, SIR?
>AM I BEING DETAINED, SIR?
AM I BEING DETAINED, SIR?
>AM I BEING DETAINED, SIR?
AM I BEING DETAINED, SIR?
>AM I BEING DETAINED, SIR?

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>Be me
>FBI rolls up in the party van
>seizes my computer
>tries to decrypt
>see this
>Police brutality.

>>61514005
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/man-jailed-indefinitely-for-refusing-to-decrypt-hard-drives-loses-appeal/

there you go

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>But i have no encr....
>feel hown solder heats up in your ass
>feel pain
>KGB officer asks your last time
>ookkk, password id AnimEForLife1488

>>61514347
straight up nazis
>The contempt-of-court order against Rawls was obtained by authorities citing the 1789 All Writs Act. The All Writs Act was the same law the Justice Department asserted in its legal battle with Apple, in which a magistrate judge ordered Apple to produce code to enable the FBI to decrypt the iPhone used by one of two shooters who killed 14 people at a San Bernardino County government building

>>61512691
>pig
Right after you and your kids are laying in the ground dead :)

>>61514347
He shouldn't talk. He needs to get a better lawyer and challenge the legality of this in higher courts.4

I dont care if the hard drive has plans to build and detonate a nuclear bomb, you cant just lock somebody up, indefinitely until they decide to (possibly) incriminate themselves under oath.

Seriously, this is Bolshevik-status stuff. indefinite imprisonment of somebody without being found guilty of a crime.

>>61514347
>2015
this happened during Obama's term.

big surprise.

>>61514347
after so many years tho they can no longer pursue the case due to statute of limitations.

They would have to release him after this term

>PHILADELPHIA (AP) — A U.S. appeals court on Monday rejected a fired police sergeant's stance that he has a Fifth Amendment right not to turn over computer passwords in an investigation.

>Former Philadelphia officer Francis Rawls has been jailed for contempt for 18 months amid his appeal. He has not been charged with a crime.

Im telling you, nazis. They have no respect for the constitution anymore

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>>61515261
>mfw Apple still said no

But it doesnt even have a password on it.

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>>61515365
The american gov't is basicaly owned by big business tho. The laws are made and interpreted in their favor, not we the people's.

>decrypt
Lmao I'm not a pedophile who has something to hide, dude. Feel free to take a look around, sir. My 4th amendment right isn't being violated.

>>61514172

mine too. They are so clueless and retarded it's almost as satisfying as watching train crash compilations on liveleak.

>>61515409
Lmao, im not a criminal who has something to hide, go ahead and record all of my telephone calls, read all my email before I do, open my mail, monitor my location with GPS and monitor everything I do at every moment using social media, dude.

Feel free to 1984 my life sir, I dont care about the constitution and its overly protective anyways, nobody deserves those rights, my 4th amendment isnt being violated

>>61512776
>>61512748
>>61513324
>do nothing
>get shot by cop
Feels american

>>61514098
Dude is going to headshot with a shotgun from across the map.

>>61514098
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ypEN1ay5i78
He should have given his password

>Sure, here you go

All of my files are in the Google bot net cloud

>>61515523
This guy gets it. You'll never be subpoenaed if you don't own your data.

>>61512691

>Decryption Keys are 256 characters of random symbols, letters and numbers
>Can't remember any of them in my head, it would be impossible
>All codes are on a notepad file on a single indiscriminate DVD Disk
>Inside a CD binder of David Bowie ripped dvds
>Inside a Drawer in my house
>The Drawer is set up like how Light set up his Death Note hidden compartment
>If anyone were to find it, and open it without using the safety system, a gas lighter is activated, and burns a homemade napalm solution, instantly destroying any evidence

Your move Mr Lawman. I can't Confess to which I do not know :^)

>>61515568
They will still imprison you, indefinitely without charging you with a crime until you tell the the passwords

>>61512691
I'm not doing a damn thing without my lawyer present. I'm sure he'd LOVE to hear about how you tried coercing me at gunpoint to disclose my passwords. Lawsuits are made of thiiis...
Oh, you're dropping the case against me? Tough shit, I'm still suing you.

>>61512691
I wish I could but these motherfuckers want $300 in bitcoin to do it.

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>>61515694
Nice try but I live in the United States and that is illegal here.

>>61515386
I will take big business over Eurocuck, which are ruled by SJWs.

>Yes, even the rightists

>>61512691
You asked for it.
[mind scarring, childhood ruining but completely legal furry porn intensifies]

>>61515568
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>61515719
BANG BANG BANG

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>mfw

>>61515719
>HES GOT A GUN!
>BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG
>*reload*
>BANG BANG BANG
>PUT YOUR HANDS BEHIND YOUR BACK
>BANG
>STOP MOVING
>BANG BANG BANG BANG
>STOP MOVING
>BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG click click
>*handcuffs you*

>>61515935
he shot me down

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>>61512691
Do you wish me to decrypt my laptop?

>>61515859

>he didn't read the thread

>>61515483
this is a predominantly american community and the photo is clearly of a generic american cop. if it took you till now to make that connection, you're retarded

>>61513439
retard

>>61512781
>tfw this will be reality within 5 years
Cops can potentially disable a single drone. But what are they going to do in 10 years when the average /g/ tard can assemble a drown swarm for personal protection?

Will the future consist entirely of Sovereign Citizens?

>>61516159
Sounds kickass

Not having a phantom partition thay once you decrypt it will write 0s to the deal partition

>Not keeping a hidden encrypted partition in case you're forced to reveal your password

No thanks officer.

>>61516018
Im not american, just making fun of shart in marts.
>go out
>get shot
Nothing more american than that.

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>>61515515
Get me out of burgerland.

>>61512691
>>61512699
>>61512727
>>61513324
>>61514347

This wouldn't be a problem if we had asymmetric backdoors.

No one would have to be forced to hand over a password or detained.

Law enforcement would just have the power to decrypt your stuff using the asymmetric backdoor, provided they have a warrant.

>be encryptard
>oppose asymmetric backdoors
>complain about being held indefinitely in contempt of court for refusing to comply with a court order due to a technical limitation of current technology
>remember you're against advancing technology to plug that limitation
>cry in jail

>>61516347
Hello, i'm the government and i'm demolishing the back wall of your house, to install our security door (tm) that only we have access to (tm), and it's totally and completely impossible that anyone else will be able to crack it open because it is.

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>>61516369
That already happens.

Were you trying to reinforce my point?

VAMOOSE BLuE chaD GET THE FUCK OFF MY BUSiNeSS RREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEER

ok just lemme get my decryption key from the glove box

>>61515859
>It is illegal in the United States to imprison someone indefinitely without charging with a crime until you give up your passwords
you literally did not read the thread.
start here:
>>61514347

>>61516386
I get we already let everyone know everything about ourselves but maybe that's not a good thing

>>61516386
That's you not using encryption and relying on the windows password to safeguard your files.
Using encryption is like having reinforced steel doors and windows.

>>61513439
Its been decided the fifth amendment doesn't protect you from being compelled to give up your encryption keys.
see: >>61514347

They literally cite the 'all writs act' the same thing they tried to use to force apple to decrypt a cell phone.

This guy in the article refused to decrypt his stuff (claimed he didnt remember password) and has been held in contemp, in a jail cell, without being charged with a crime for the lat 18 months.

>>61516347
Hello, i'm the 1984 government and i'm keeping a set of spare keys to your car, your house and your laptop, spare pins for your ATM card, spare copies of all your medical records, im going to record every phone call you make, record your browsing history, using social engineering engines such as facebook and twitter to monitor your every move (with GPS), install cameras in your home, bedroom and bathrooms, and it is totally impossible that anyone else will be able to crack any of this open because it is.

>>61512691
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deniable_encryption

>>61516474
like this:
>>61513942

>>61512691
You'll have to ask my grandson. He's the tech wiz. I don't know anything about it.

>>61516424
Which in most states you are not allowed to do without a special license and, even if you are or do it anyway, the police can still get through them - just not in age of universe years, which is why military-grade encryption is a peculiar case. Its use should be disallowed for civilians in favour of encryption with secure, law enforcement-only asymmetric backdoors.

>>61516469
>i'm keeping a set of spare keys to your car, your house
Easily breakable, they don't need it. They can already break into those with a warrant. Again, are you trying to reinforce my point?

>spare pins for your ATM card
They can subpoena your bank records.

>spare copies of all your medical records
And your medical records.

>im going to record every phone call you make, record your browsing history
And they can record your phone calls and browsing history provided they have court warrants.

>monitor your every move (with GPS)
They can also do that.

>install cameras in your home
They can get access to recorded images of cameras anywhere with a warrant.

Again, are you guys really not aware all of this only reinforces my point?

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>>61516528
>actually defending gov't installing cameras in a home
Yes, this sounds reasonable to me as well

>>61513265
Is that Jon Snow?

>>61516528
Exactly, with a WARRANT they can do these things. these things aren't just lying around on a gov't server.

>>61516528
You're an idiot that deserves to have your bank accounts emptied by russian thugs using the same backdoors you defend.

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>>61516544
Start arguing anytime.

>>61516551
>these things aren't just lying around on a gov't server
No one's defending that. Maybe you should pay attention to the discussion.

>>61516552
Why would that happen? How's that more likely to happen using the proposed scheme?

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>>61516528
there is a difference between requiring a warrant to do something and having this technology just there, all the time monitoring you.

literally dystopic 1984-tier

>>61516564
Hack the police, steal their thing, break the house of millions.
Simple as that.

>>61516564
but you literally did defend this exact subject right here: >>61516347
>This wouldn't be a problem if we had asymmetric backdoors.

>>61516576
You either don't understand what's being discussed or are willfully playing ignorant in an attempt to convince by repetition (argumentum ad nauseam). I'll start ignoring you now.

>doesn't know about my hidden encrypted partition
>doesn't know about my steganographic photographs
Ok officer, here's the password. ^_^

>>61516528
>>61516347
>people are not allowed to have privacy anymore
literally go neck yourself

>>61516584
That's a circular argument.

If they can hack the police, then they can hack your current set up too.

You failed to address how any security is lost. And you won't be able to either, because none really is - this is mathematically provable.

>>61516601
not true.
cops are people and susceptible to social engineering.

>>61516586
See >>61516587

>>61516600
Except no. How would this affect privacy at all?

Nothing will change for you unless you're a criminal. Your private stuff won't suddenly be visible by everyone. Not even the authorities can see your stuff unless they have a good reason to do it.

>>61516612
So are you. Again, circular argument.

>>61516601
>it deosnt require a hacker for someone to go edward snowden and leak the all-powerful keys that can be used to infiltrate every American's lives

>>61516621
Key leakage is already a problem.

You'll have to do better than that.

>>61516618
but a succesful social engineering event against an official who has these keys would compromise everyone.

not circular argument you just dont want to see the fault in your neo-statist reasoning

>>61516631
so with this key leakage already being a problem, it is a good idea to have a set of keys which can access anyones information?

>>61516631
>things are already leaked, so it doesnt matter if something really important is leaked

>>61513324
Welp, I guess he isn't getting the key

>>61512691
Shoot already faggit, make it stop

>>61516214
>Bang Bang Bang

>>61516633
So would an attack against Target reveal all their customers' credit card info.

>it's okay when corporations do it for profit, but not okay when elected government does it for justice
>"neo-statist"
Fuck off with your buzzwords.

>>61516648
How exactly will it leak?

And I mean EXACTLY, not some conspiracy theory or wild conjecture.

>>61516347
Having a centralized set of keys which could be used to decrypt any and all American's information sounds like a wonderful plan to me as well

>>61516663
It sure is better than being detained indefinitely.

>>61516660
does it matter what fictional scenario could leak your fictional keys? Does it really make a difference?

>>61516674
Detaining someone indefinitely without charging with a crime is so American too, im loving it.

Also, I doubt they can detain him indefinitely, there is a statute of limitations for most crimes and if the individual is willing to be incarcerated for that number of years than so be it, they can no longer pursue past that time

>>61516618
>Fallacy fallacy
I can rattle off names of logical fallacies one can learn from an intro philosophy class too. No, it does not "only affect criminals" because any time someone will stomp on your rights, they will.

>>61516660
>it's okay when corporations do it for profit, but not okay when elected government does it for justice
Its not ok for either.

>>61516693
Go be an edgy teenage anarchist elsewhere.

>>61516697
So what do you suggest, smartass?

>>61516693
>any time someone will stomp on your rights, they will.
ding ding ding, winrar!!

>>61516700
I suggest that their not be a centralized set of keys that can access any American citizen's private information.

Have you been reading anything or just zealously trying to justify your point of view to every anon in this thread?

>>61516706
>I suggest that their not be a centralized set of keys that can access any American citizen's private information.
>Have you been reading anything or just zealously trying to justify your point of view to every anon in this thread?
I got that part, you blithering idiot.

I wanna know what do you suggest as a solution for military-grade encryption stonewalling police investigations, you fucktard.

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>>61516347
>>61516528
>>61516631
>>61516660

Wow. just. wow.

>>61516693
>any time someone will stomp on your rights, they will
Abusus non tollit usum.

>>61516720
Technology needs to develop more, not the government's grip over it's people.

shor's algorithm is well on its way to being able to solve encryption keys.

I would much rather see research funding put into that route rather than new legislation which allows the government even more centralized control

>>61516750
>l-let's just wait guys, I'm sure something will come up
Nice non-solution, you clueless edgetard.

>>61516746
et tu es plenae stercore

>>61516758
you have no idea what your talking about. we will have this technology in a few years
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shor%27s_algorithm

>>61516700
>Go be an edgy teenage anarchist elsewhere.

Struck a nerve. huh, philosophy rat. Pissed you are destined to be a shitty little NEET like the rest of the clowns in here, dipshit? You do not sound smart and you did not address the point. What is stopping cops from abusing your rights?

>>61516528
>>61516347
>give the government backdoors into everything or face indefinite incarceration
Really?

>>61516772
I have studied Shor's algorithm and know exactly what it does and how it works. I've wrote several papers on post-quantum cryptography. That algorithm only affects a proper subset of the asymmetric cryptosystems we have - it doesn't affect symmetric cryptography at all, although Grover's algorithm does just a bit.

>>61516794
>I've wrote several papers on post-quantum cryptography.
links or it didnt happen

>>61516601
Let's suppose your home and the police have the same protection level ok?
Yes, i will have the same work to break into the police and into your home.
But if i break the police, i broke millions of homes, thus its a lot more profitable to me, as i will not have to go to all the effort on every single home.

>>61516778
>What is stopping cops from abusing your rights?
Funny how you act like you just discovered something brand new, but that's an ages old problem. See >>61516746 and also read up on it:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quis_custodiet_ipsos_custodes%3F

>>61516799
Nice try, I'm not telling you who I am.

>>61516804
Sure, but that assumption is completely false, therefore your entire argument is bogus.

>>61516783

Ignore him. He has no idea what he is talking about.

>>61516794
so rather than develop these technologies further the solution in your eyes is to allow the government total backdoor access?

Im sorry, but one route would actually need to have a warrant to execute because it requires physical access, while the other is susceptible to what anon mention here:
>>61516633
>>61516648
>>61516621

>>61516816
>rather than
Nice strawman.

>>61516813
you have zero credibility.
You literally come off as emperor palpatine.
>>61516814
I agree.
He's been arguing with probably a half dozen anons now for the last 100 posts or something about why the government needs backdoor access into everyones computers

>>61516813
>Funny how you act like you just discovered something brand new
That's what edgy teenaged libertarians do, they think they're so special no one has ever thought of what they thought in their last drug-induced trip.

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Go ahead, shoot me. Then you'll never get the password :^)

>>61516813
>Nice try, I'm not telling you who I am.
>Implying anyone cares
Fuck off already. Everyone here just thinks you are a idiot.

>>61516833
>You literally come off as emperor palpatine.
>using analogies based on silly B-rated children's movies
Confirmed for prepubescent.

>>61516838
>a bunch of idiots think I'm an idiot
Great. I'd be worried if you thought I was smart.

>>61516831
nice avoiding a straightforward question by naming your 50th strawman, when it wast a strawman. It was a direct reasonable question I asked previously right here: >>61516750 which you also avoided in this manner >>61516758 (ad hominem, but im sure you knew that)

>>61516851
ad hominem, and not an argument
i can name logical fallacies too, look at me! im as cool as u r

>>61516831
>>61516553
>avoids straightforward questions by claiming strawman

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Here, I made of back up for u

[Clicks Internally]

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>This thread

>>61516853
>when it wast a strawman
Yes it was. You're claiming I implied technology shouldn't develop. In reality, you're the one against technological development by opposing the development of asymmetric backdoors, as I made clear here >>61516347

>you also avoided
I didn't avoid it, I pointed out a flaw in your retarded idea, namely that it just suggests we keep the status quo and hope for the best, not doing anything to actually solve a pressing current problem.

Not to mention it's a stupid idea because the algorithm mentioned doesn't solve the problem for two reasons.

1- It ruins privacy.

2- It only affects a few algorithms that we use.

>ad hominem
You obviously can't read.

>>61516863
I was replying to ad hominem non-arguments to begin with.

Tu quoque.

>>61516881
They were strawmen because they misrepresented my position. One implied I was defending government surveillance and the other one accused me of being opposed to technological progress.

Now fuck off.

Guys, lets just stop fighting and all agree that we are all better off with the government having immediate access to anything and everything we do and just abolishing the right to privacy completely

>>61516913
This faggot like that idea:
>>61516910
I bet he is a Eurocuck too. What a useless piece of shit.

There's an app for that.

>>61516954
>yet another strawman + ad hominem
You fags are hopeless...

>>61516910
>In reality, you're the one against technological development by opposing the development of asymmetric backdoors
wow. just wow. I didnt realize making a single set of asymmetric keys using currently existing technology which would be used to access everyone information is "against technology"... and here I thought developing a new emerging technologies such as quantum-cryptographic methods, which would be able to solve the same problem without giving the government a set of 'master keys' would be "in favor of technology" but you sure showed me when you said "Nice non-solution, you clueless edgetard."... man you sure showed me.

oh, btw, ad hominem
also
>your retarded idea
ad hominem
>You obviously can't read.
ad homimen

man, its fun naming logical fallacies against your opponent, I see why your so fond of it. its really convenient when you dont want to think of an actual rebuttal so you attack the argument itself rather than rebutting it

>>61513447

Have two bootable partitions

Set BIOS to auto boot to encrypted OS. This is your trap OS. Make a second partition to run your preferred OS, and make it so you have to hit the key at boot to do boot device select and get into your preferred OS that way.

With this setup, a freshly booted device will attempt to boot to your encrypted trap OS. You enter the trap key, and your trap OS boots. Make a scheduled task for this OS at boot to erase your preferred OS's partition, resize the trap OS to use all that space, and then run a secure overwrite of the hard drive sectors in use, in the background. Also, remove the tasks once they've ran once.

Nothing in your trap OS, and your preferred OS is now gone.

>>61512691
It's not decrypted.

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>>61516347
>>61516528
>>61516631
>>61516660
>>61516910
I fell like this picture describes you anon, only, your not kidding

>>61516993
you should check out a maratukku files system
>https://github.com/sporkexec/rubberhose

>>61516973
>I didnt realize making a single set of asymmetric keys using currently existing technology which would be used to access everyone information is "against technology"
Because that's totally what I suggested. Why do you have to keep strawmanning?

>and here I thought developing a new emerging technologies such as quantum-cryptographic methods, which would be able to solve the same problem
I just explained why it wouldn't. You're implying I claimed we shouldn't develop quantum computing though, which is another strawman. I merely said something else should be done to solve the problem at hand because that doesn't do it, but not that it shouldn't be done (I'm helping develop it, actually).

>its really convenient when you dont want to think of an actual rebuttal so you attack the argument itself rather than rebutting it
You wanna know what's really convenient?

Coming up with shit arguments and getting mad when they're called shit and accusing your opponent of not having truly rebutted them because he just called them the shit which they are.

>>61516973
Ignore him. Faggot will never learn. Just another dirty NEET lashing out because he did not get his tendies and he is useless to the progress of humanity. The option you stated is not perfect, but it is much better than this leftist retards shit ideas.

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>>61512691
What's the point?
If this would happen, I probably deserved it, why the fuck would I decrypt it or would I decrypt it, depending what I did and how it would apply to my sentance.

You guys are fucking autistic, you also bitch when you get pulled over for speeding yourself and the police asks you to let down the window? ...or even worse, signal you to stop and you sperg out?

These threads are made and posted in by 16 year olds it seems.

>>61516903
This, autistic as fuck.

Mostly edgy wannabe autistic though.

>>61517024
ya im ignoring him now.

This guy is some special level of stupid. His ability to avoid every question by using the term "strawman" and then backing up his arguments with made up published post-quantum cryptographic papers is astounding.

>>61517024
>Faggot will never learn.
I'm the one schooling you shitheads in this thread.

You idiots didn't even know asymmetric backdoors were a possibility and you actually thought Shor's algorithm could be used to break all cryptography.

>Just another dirty NEET lashing out because he did not get his tendies and he is useless to the progress of humanity.
Except you're the confirmed edgy teens here. I'm a researcher on post-quantum cryptography!

>The option you stated is not perfect, but it is much better
His option is basically "if we ignore the problem, it will go away".

>than this leftist retards shit ideas
Nice attempt to shoehorn politics into the debate in order to polarize it, faggot.

>>61517042
Samefag.

>>61517060
You're pathetic.

I'm not even one of those anons.

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>>61517042
>>61517024
>when people multiple disagree with you and you conclude they must be the same person

>>61516474
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubberhose_decryption

>>61517073
>>61517077
Sure is summer in here.

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>>61517060
>Samefag
Nope! Just several people are laughing at your retarded ass.

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Summer is raging this year.

>>61517093
Yup

>>61516720
Absolutely nothing, the police can figure out a way around the block that doesn't violate every single persons rights

You can't set up safeguards to presume somebody's guilty of a crime just in case, that's fucking insane

Also

>Reddit spacing

Fuck off

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>>61517060
You must be choking autistic tears right now.

>>61516659
Fuck it, im on FB Live or Instagram Live though.

>>61516750
>shor's algorithm is well on its way to being able to solve encryption keys.
>I am a retard

>>61516772
Did you even bother reading the link?

>>61516794
>I've wrote several papers on post-quantum cryptography
If you are not willing to "post-tits" then don't say that you are a girl. Same applies in this case. Why did you feel the need to claim that you are an authority on an anonymous imageboard?

>>61516601
>If they can hack the police, then they can hack your current set up too.
Doubt

>>61516660
>So would an attack against Target reveal all their customers' credit card info.
Yes and this sucks, we do not need more of it.

>>61516973
>quantum-cryptographic methods
Are you memeing or do you have no clue on what you are talking about?

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>>61516159
It would be cool to have an armed guard drone swarm. The controller could monitor when a drone detects a human, when it detects a fed, or even if a drone was knocked out. The controller could also give instructions for the drones to take shifts so they could go back to their charge station for 24/7 monitoring.

>>61516836
If the shoot you they won't have any need for any key. After all the pedo that they were investigating would be dead.

>>61517060
>>61517128
ha!
Not rekt
Rekt
Really Rekt
Tyrannosaurus Rekt
Cash4Rekt.com
Grapes of Rekt
Ship Rekt
Rekt markes the spot
Caught rekt handed
The Rekt Side Story
Singin' In The Rekt
Painting The Roses Rekt
Rekt Van Winkle
Parks and Rekt
Lord of the Rekts: The Reking of the King
Star Trekt
The Rekt Prince of Bel-Air
A Game of Rekt
Rektflix
Rekt it like it's hot
RektBox 360
The Rekt-men
School Of Rekt
I am Fire, I am Rekt
Rekt and Roll
Professor Rekt
Catcher in the Rekt

>>61512691
This is a toaster.

>>61516794
oh my god i'm fucking laughing
all of your posts are just so sad

t. Uchicago quantum computing phd student

>>61517336
He is right though

>>61517361
seriously, your posts are sad

>>61516618
>Nothing will change for you unless you're a criminal.
oh my GOD thanks for the laugh
i haven't seen naïvety like this in a while

>>61517371
Why?

>>61516851
so why are you still here?
if you think so lowly of the posters here save us all some time and leave

but you won't because you're actually a dumbass who likes stroking his ego by pretending people disagreeing with him validates his shitty opinions and lack of arguments

>>61517397
read the thread and find out
not that you will because you either have legitimate autism or don't have the IQ to introspect

>>61517429
You are probably retarded, honestly.

>>61512691
>"yes sir, right away"
>insert key
>police either finds incriminating evidence or not
>if they do, justice is done
>if they don't, it's as if nothing had happened, nothing is lost
What's so bad about this?

>>61517639
15-yos with authority issues are gonna feel embarrassed if the police sees that they jack off to japanese cartoons, so we should sacrifice justice for the sake of their "privacy"

>>61516260
>This guy wanted to get shot. It's clear as day
Yeah, how about not killing an unarmed suicidal man? I guess trying to help him isn't the option that crossed their minds.

>>61517310
Did you have a stroke or something?

>>61517391
Yup. It is this kind of stupidity that lead to the UK banning the online sale of blades. Totally government-loving pansy ass.

Sir, this computer isn't encrypted. Simply type my username and this password, then you can access all my files. Bee tee double you, I use Arch Linux.

>>61517639
>>if they do, justice is done
False, the reverse will happen.

>>61518113
Elaborate.

>>61515864
>Europe ruled by SJW's

Get a load of this Amerifat.

You know all the White privelege, trigger warning safe space horseshit came from your shithole of a country right?

>>61515515
>get your fucking ass on the ground
How is this allowed? Did they jail them forever?

>>61518162
Victimless crimes and thought crimes are not crimes.

tech idea: fake deencryption

what if you could make it so it looks like it deencrypts with a password, but unless you enter the true password it still hides most stuff

then if you get detained you can give them the fake pass
good idea or no?

>>61518218
>encryptard actually defends kiddie porn
This is a ready-made joke.

>>61518218
NAMBLA shill pls go

>>61518238
Victimless crimes and thought crimes are not crimes.

>waaah it hurts my fee fees
Not a crime, same goes for animal abuse.

>>61518244
What is that? scared to search it.

>>61518249
Damn, and then you folks get mad when we associate encryption with child pornography...

>>61518249
It's not a victimless crime, a child was victimized to create that porn.

Still, that's irrelevant, because no one said anything about child porn specifically - you brought it up. I just mentioned "incriminating evidence". Could be of anything, like financial fraud. Whether child porn is actually a crime or not, that's a different debate altogether.

It sounds like you just brought it up because you take issue with that in particular. I wonder why...

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>>61518232
Julian Assange already implemented that. istr he eventually reconsidered: how much worse of a time you'd have if they couldn't be sure you've given them ALL the pws.

>>61518249
Soemthing like North American Man-Boy Love Association.

>>61518296
>a child was victimized to create those toons and fiction stories

>>61512691
>Clean install Win10 onto one of these
>https://www.amazon.com/SanDisk-Ultra-Flash-Drive-SDCZ43-064G-G46/dp/B00LLEODCK/
>Transport the laptop with it inserted
>Claim it's a new laptop and that's a wireless mouse receiver if they ask

They'll never know the difference

>type in password for regular partition and not hidden partition

>>61518307
>I watch cartoon kiddie porn because I'm too scared of downloading the real deal
That only makes you even more pathetic and even more deserving of spending the rest of your pathetic little life in jail getting buttraped by massive niggers.

>>61518295
>you folks
"we folks"?

>we associate encryption with child pornography
Why would you do that? There are many uses of encryption other than CP.

>>61518296
>a child was victimized to create that porn.
Sure, creating actual cp of real children is a real crime. Having it on your hard drive in an encrypted or unencrypted format is a victimless crime.

>because no one said anything about child porn specifically
Are you retarded? >>61518238 (you?) brought it up.

>It sounds like you just brought it up because you take issue with that in particular
See above, nice projection.

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>>61518324

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>>61518238

>>61518320
>right click
>new text file > FUCK YOU -> ctrl+a ctrl+c
>ctrl+vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv
>ctrl+s

Problem anon-kun?

>>61512699
It's
"am I under arrest or otherwise detained? If so I refuse to answer any questions without the presence of legal counsel"

protp: it worx

>>61515515
ehy the fuck do they have a pistol and a shotgun pointed at him, with intent to kill if he hasnt done anything and is unarmed?

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>>61512896
>>61512938
>>61512950
>>61513324
>>61516347
>>61516469
>>61516528
>>61516544
>>61516600
>>61516424
>>61516386
>>61516369
>>61516910
>>61516973
>>61517273
>>61518249
>>61518295

Ya'll niggas aint realizing that being forced to decrypt your files is a violation of your 5th amendment, the freedom of testifying against yourself right?

https://stanford.edu/~jmayer/law696/week8/Compelled%20Password%20Disclosure%20(Eleventh%20Circuit).pdf

>>61518332
>Having CP on your hard drive is okay
This is what encryptards actually believe.

This is what you niggers >>61517273, >>61517171, >>61516973, >>61516954, >>61516881, >>61516863, >>61516853, >>61516838, >>61516833, >>61516816, >>61516804, >>61516783, >>61516778, >>61516772, >>61516761, >>61516750, >>61516726, >>61516706, >>61516697, >>61516693, >>61516683, >>61516663, >>61516648, >>61516641, >>61516633, >>61516600, >>61516586, >>61516584, >>61516576, >>61516552, >>61516544 ,>>61516469, >>61516424, >>61516423, >>61516369 are defending.

>>61518412
Gtfo jidf faggot shill

>>61518412

You just gave (You)s to a bunch of NAMBLA shills.

>>61518408
Sure, but this does not stop them from illegally keeping you in jail until you give them the key.

>>61518412
Victimless crimes are not crimes.

>This is what you niggers
No, they are defending only what they are saying. They are not defending what other say.

>>61518455
>obey the law, le 5th amendment protects muh privacey XDDDDDD
>lol fuck le law, I don't care if it says possessing CP is a crime, I get to decide what is and isn't a crime XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

>>61518412
FBI and or Mossad detected

>>61518469
What?

>>61518445
Your side is gonna be the first one saying that "just because it is a law doesn't mean it's right, the holocaust was legal in Nazi Germany!!!", yet we are the JIDFs.

Nice.

>>61518470
NAMBLA just go already.

The shilling is real!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_pedophile_and_pederast_advocacy_organizations

>>61518469
>>61518473
its just the Feds out in full force. just hide, ignore, and filter

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>>61518499
Just heil and hitler?

>>61512691
But my dude, I don't own a laptop

>>61518201
>Thinking is is not well-known that UK cunts are weak pussies

Try harder.
http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-40640810
The UK is a giant Muslim-infested safe space. Total sub-humans.

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>>61518674
Ignore the dumbass. It is well-known Europeans are a disgrace of their own race. Let them burn.

"Unfortunately I do not have the key on me at the moment. I use a 256-bit AES key on a USB drive that would be impossible to memorize. If you feel like illegally detaining me, the lawyers in my family would love to strip you of everything you own. Unfortunately for you, I'm not a minority and you won't get off very easy if you decide to use your little gun. I'll give you a few moments for the greasy cogwheels in your empty head to determine your next move."

>>61516347
>asymmetric backdoors are fool proof
>trusting people with the keys
>trusting governments with the keys
>trusting russia, china, indonesia, iran, israel with the keys

Oh wait, you think only USA/UK will get the keys don't you?

>>61518829
The moron was told to go to bed by his mommy. Do not wake him up.

Sure, go right ahead officer. I would rather you didn't poke through my files, but I have nothing to hide, and it's not encrypted.

>>61512691
>boot into cli
Here you are, sir

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>>61517036

>>61512856
Best one so far

>>61512691
>battery is fucked officer and the cable is locked away in an evidence locker, because Chester killed himself with it

>>61519194
What? It's true. People here think like what OP said would actually happen to them.

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>>61518570
Yes, hail Hitler!

>>61512691
I don't have a laptop.

>>61512691
But I already oven'd, microwave'd, thermite'd amd degause'd my laptop.

>>61512691
YOU'LL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE!!
>Shows belt of grenades I was wearing and clings to officer and blows self up along with him

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>>61512856
>s-siri, call me a, *gasp* ambulance
>Okay, ambulance.

>>61513439
>What is Guantanamo
>What is Enhanced Interrogation Techniques

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>Of course sir, right after you sign this NDA form.
Can i do this?

>>61512691
Omae wa mou shindeiru
>sir please step out of the vehi-
>huh N-NANI
nothing personality, officer

>>61519620
I saw that live, it wasn't nearly as creepy as it looks in the pic. It's Bodies: The Exhibition, fyi.
Sage because offtopic.

>>61512691

Stop being an idiot and go back to your third world country

>>61512781
a hand gun, please burger

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU

>>61520281
I don't see a machine gun as being a good idea.

The drone won't be able to hold it steady during rapid fire.

Now flamethrower drones is where it is at.

>>61515483
Ha! Retarded fat fucks

>>61520394
>projecting

this message should be automatically broadcasted from my speakers as they enter a 10m radius of my VR headset
>I do not talk to strangers. I only talk to humans.
>Don't be a stranger! Slide your government-issued ID card through slot.
>Theses safety glasses prevent me from seeing or hearing you until you identify yourself!
>Your time is very important to me so please wait for my next available moment.
>If you would like to try to sell me a product. Press 1
>If you would like to ask me to fill a form. Press 2
>If you would like to show me an advertisement. Press 3 and slide your credit card through my slot to purchase my attention.
>If you would are a government official in the exercise of your duties, please slide your government-issued badge through slot and email a pdf of your warrant at [email protected]
>If you would like to inform me that photography is not permitted on your premises. Press 9 and wait for next available moment.
>For safety purposes all conversations adressed to me are recorded and monitored.

>>61520988
*barges your door*

>>61520988
I kinda want to live in a future like this, especially the part where companies have to purchase my attention because fuck them.
I'd drop the guided "press # to..." part because it's so 90s, maybe a digital receptionist + dialogue manager would be better

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>>61522604
aesthetics

>>61512691
*pulls out broken micro sd card*
whoops i destroyed the key

>>61519936
>Sage because offtopic.
How new are you?

>>>/global/rules/7

>>61523537
Then two shitskinned federal computer forensics technicians sweetiepost you all the way to prison.

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>"sure"
>put magnet on hdd location

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>>61523757
>get buttraped with a soldering iron

>>61523649
>polite saging for offtopic
>newfag
no anon, you are the new

>>61512691
it's not crypted, sir

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>>61512691
>laptop
What's this? I only have a huge PC box under my table. Fucking laptop plebs, worse than phoneposters.

It's not crypted it's corrupted :^)

>>61514124
>Implying you have rights.
Only matters if 200k+ a year.

>>61523757
I think now every hdd is having Faraday's cage

>>61512776
>can't stand someone saying no
>probably a rapist
>on 4chan
checks out

>>61516347
>Law enforcement would just have the power to decrypt your stuff using the asymmetric backdoor, provided they have a warrant.

You think they don't abuse their power as it is? Random stop, suspicious behavior, etc and a limp dicked judge is all the warrant they need.

Engryption with a fast wipe with set password is whats needed.

>>61516469
>spare copies of all your medical records, record every phone call you make, record your browsing history, using social engineering engines such as facebook and twitter to monitor your every move (with GPS)

You must really be naive if you think they don't do that already. Hell companies are doing that right now WITH your consent. Think cookies...

>>61523337
Motherfuck I need sauce. I googled the text but it only brings up a couple of old websites

>>61523757
>>61525168
Everyone seems to forget that there are two very strong magnets INSIDE the hard drive case.

The tiny magnet you stick on the outside ain't gonna do shit.

>>61527772
I have no idea
I got it on the chans

test