/pcbg/ - PC Building General

If I just wanna add two sata cables to my system for some more drives(not raid) is this alright
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816124045

would i be getting the full individual-drive speed

I got my monitor to 75Hz (lowered the res so it would allow me), and damn, the difference is really there. I wonder what a 144Hz or 240Hz one feels like

I managed to snap a pin on my USB 3.0 header on my motherboard. I've got a bit of wire used for vaping and pushed it as far into the male end and snipped it to a size that is making contact but I can still pull it out with pliers incase. good idea or not?

USB ports are working perfectly and have been for a while. Just want opinions on my bodge fix

So is the 1050 ti still the best gpu I can get for under $200?

>>61497261
you could always steal one

>>61497245
if they're just HDDs yes cus they cant even saturate SATA 1 speeds and PCI-e 2.0 x1 is more than enough for two.

>>61497249
pure eyegasm

>>61497253
no, those things are soldered and you just pushing something in there might get shit connection and be unreliable as fuck.

>>61497261
seems so, depending on where you live.

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tfw paid ~250$ in some meme combo deal for a total of 280 for this

>>61497318
USB 3.0 have been working perfectly since. Full speed too been about a month now

Is this accurate for 1080P gaming? I understand DX11 and 12 fucks with things a bit but I am trying to get an overall understanding.

1080ti > 1080 = RX Vega > 1070 > 580 8GB = 1060 6GB >= 580 4GB > 1060 3GB = 570 >=1050ti > 560 4GB > 1050

First time build looking for some advice on this:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Bykg7h

Budget is around $1300 and was planning on slotting in a 1060 when the prices get closer to normal.

I should note that I do live close to a microcenter so the parts listed cost me around $150 less than on pcpartpicker.

Thanks

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>>61497409
this pic is a bit old tho and doesnt have the new 500 cards

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I'm going to be using the build mainly for gaming and some streaming. My budget is hard capped at 1000 dollars. Is there anything I can do to save a little bit more money, or on the flip side; get more performance while staying under 1k?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ds66tJ

GPU RESTOCK WHEN REEEEEEEE

>>61497435
Unless you plan to SLI, there's no point in an X370 mobo.

>>61497409
no one knows how RX vega will perform, judging its performance from vega FE is not advisable, you really should wait until it gets released

As for the rest of the 'graph", I think the 570 is a tad little better than the 1060 3GB

why are some gpus like this pretty cheap:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487299

while gpus like this are $700+?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA73M4SV8364

Is the first one fucking shit somehow?

who /waitingforthreadripper/ here

>>61497474
You'll spend less on a 2x8 16gb combo at 300 or 3200 mhz.
You're underspending on the mobo. The golden sweetspot for B350 mobos is between $85 and $115 MSRP.
looks good otherwise.

>>61497525
me, I'll be getting RX vega too no matter what because I want a freesync monitor

>>61497493
I initially had a different board, but microcenter has a bundle with the 1600 + X370 for $300 so I figured why not?

Is there a different board you'd recommend for <$100?

>>61497474
get b350 chipset and not asrock. if you want to OC make sure it has decent chokes and VRM (read hardware review, not buyer reviews).
get a ram kit with two sticks instead of two seperate kits with just one stick, and 3000mhz+ (ryzen loves fast ram).
get at least 240GB SSD.
RX580 > 1060 (depending on price).
rest is fine.

>>61497522
because one is no longer manufactured and in low supply.

>>61497522
1050 is still in production and is garbage for mining so the prices aren't inflated.

Seems like you're getting chinked on the 950 price there. It's out of production but it's also pretty shit for mining. I'm assuming they're just putting a high price to see if some sucker will take it.

>>61497522
The second one is old as shit (2-3 years old IIRC) and stock is low. when supply can't meet demand, prices go up. Miners buying things in bulk drove up prices. The 1050 is a better card. make no doubt about it. Give it a month and a half or so and the GPU market should stabilize.

Should I buy an HGST 3tb refurb for muh gaymes?
Some reviews say they're loud.

>>61497571
Ah, if you're getting a deal on it, then do it.

For my personal build, I'm grabbing an MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic.

>>61497591
im sure most noise is due to case vibrations (i know my seagate does this sometimes since when i push shit tight it stops).

>>61497576
Just checked ebay sold listing prices for the 950 and they're usually 70-90 USD used and around 100-120 USD new. So that's a complete ripoff price.

>>61497573
>>61497576
>>61497588
I just want a nice low-profile one for for my linux home server but with a nice amount of cuda cores for other work.

Is the first one pretty good for that? For a system running basically 24/7.

Something like this even looks fine:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814487296

what should I look for? Non-gaming and non-mining

Have anyone tried out the Pixio PX245c?
Nobody has a review for it.
Joker Productions has one but no review from him

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072K3Z5NC/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_FsPCzb20J3B9N

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>>61497686
a low profile what? gpu? just get a htpc case with tilted gpu slot

you should look at reviews where they test cuda shit on different cards.

Guys I can't anymore, I have been waiting for 1060s since early June, I am thinking of getting a 1050ti and end it all.

>>61497740
just buy a used RX x80

>>61497735
I already have a build up and running using integrated.
"Buy a new computer" isn't gonna help just because of a gpu.

I'll look at more cuda-based reviews

>>61497767
>used
Id like to keep my GPU for more than 1 year thanks.

>>61497818
i bought a used gtx470 housefire many years ago that i still use

>>61497845
I had one of those. Thing idled at the temperature of Satan's butthole

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HmzkBP
(Adding vega / gtx 1060 / rx580 later, sound card and 2×8gb 3000mhz ram later)
Is this a good mid range build? Is there anything wrong with it?

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>>61497877
sure does

>>61497905
>soundcard
why?
>replacing ram later
fucking why?
>spending more than $50 on gpu just to replace it in a month
whatthefuckingshit why?

>>61497905
spend more on the power supply. You want 80+ Bronze minimum, with all black cables, and either semi-modular or fully modular.

>>61497941
>buying anything but gold rated in current year
nah

>>61497905
wait until you can buy the shit you want from the start, buying some stupid shit just to replace it in a short while is fucking retarded and wasting money.

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>>61497573
>>61497552
Thank you!

Also, AMD cards are very expensive. Some Rx 580's go for 400+

>>61497968
yeah, the idiot miners fucked with AMD gpu prices

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My first build is stressing me the fuck out. My psu only came with two PCI-E 6+2 adapters and my gtx 1070 takes an 8 and a 6. Would it be simple enough to use an 6+2 and a 6 for powering the graphics card? Or do I need the 8 and 6 PCI-e. Really don't wanna fuck up here lads. Pic related

>>61497968
prices should go down sooner or later but if you dont want to wait the 1060 6gb is fine.
you should get ram without heatsinks that sticks up (like corsair LPX).
and if you want to OC you should consider an aftermarket cooler.

>>61497987
amd are making mining cards soon so hopefully wont happen again

>>61497992
what fucking PSU do you have nigga

>>61498022
the mining craze is already dying, and even if it doesn't, no one is going to sell their gpus to buy the mining version

>>61498043
like it died the years before?

nah but they might consider buying them instead of the gamer versions if amd makes it worth it the next time they make a mining rig

>>61498022
What is the problem with a heatsink that sticks up?

>>61498022
550w seasonic G series it's a little old but the wattage should be sufficient. I've seen previous builds using the same parts

have i overlooked or poorly/overly specced anything? a little unsure if the monitor might be too big. my second edition to pcbg.

the plan is to run fairly general use ubuntu, watch a few 1080 flicks, and play some dota.

budget is somewhat flexible, all my past computers have been laptops so i want to stretch a little bit and get a nicer, higher-end box that's a little more modular and semi-permanent

the graph is a little jacked, but i'm not sure why: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/xKqBnn

>>61497937
>I need it for higher quality sound
>"A D D"
Is it possible to use two different gpus at the same time (i want to connect it to secondary monitor) if not I'm getting the gt 210
>>61497941
Any psu suggestions?
>>61497959
Old laptop died and i am not patient

>>61497905
Bruh, you're going to waste money on parts now to just replace them in a month or two, yet you chose the bare minimum anyone should consider for a PSU? What are you doing?

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16817438095

>>61498092
Seasonic's website states that PSU comes with two 6+2 pin PCI-E cables. I don't understand your issue..? Plug on full 6+2 in and plug the other 6 in and let the +2 hang off next to it.

>>61498089
it's a useless meme only for looks and it gets in the way of the biggest cpu coolers.
you dont HAVE to change ram it's just recommended since there's no price difference and you probably wont be buying those coolers anyway.

>>61498092
but that unit has two 6+2 PCI-E cables why are you talking about adapters?

Should I get RX560 or 1050ti if I'm getting a 1080p FreeSync monitor?

Banter topic but: what angle is "safe" for a hard drive to be positioned during operation?

"Flat"(Disk is facing flat up) or "Vertical"(Disk is "on its side")?

>>61498153
>running freesync on nvidia graphics
is this bait?

>>61498157
| or _

>>61498097
Looks damn fine to me. I might suggest slightly faster RAM. I got 2x8gb TEAM DDR4 3000MHz RAM working at 3066 pretty easily on my ASUS Strix X370 board and it was around $115 I think. You could also go for 3200MHz RAM if you wanted to but I was fine with 3000.

That monitor is bretty gud for productivity tasks, I have several at work and the colors are quite good after some tweaking. Haven't tried games on it obviously.

>>61498167
> | & _
aka both*

>>61498153
Nvidia doesn't work with Freesync even though they could with just some driver work but they want to force you to buy G-Sync which requires special hardware in the monitor.

>>61498167
>>61498200
I know it doesn't work, I'm wondering if getting a slightly worse card is worth it for having FreeSync functionality or if I should just get the stronger card and not have any frame sync at all. I'd save about fifty bucks if I got the RX560 on top of that.

>>61498097
go with the 8GB version GPU also wait until prices come down before you buy. those cards should be going for under $300 normally.

ryzen likes fast ram so get 3000mhz+

i'd drop the wifi and get a mobo with it integrated instead.

recommend 144hz monitor for maximum gaemin

>>61498208
It's a temporary card in either case, right? If so just get the cheaper RX560.

>>61498208
get a 570

>GPU I preordered since early june is on its way
HOLY FUCK /g/ A MIRACLE HAS HAPPENED

>>61498250
>paying that much for temporary card
fucking stop this retarded shit

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>>61498259
Is this a dream or reality

>>61498153
>>61498208
If you're going to stay at 1080p, it'd be cheaper to get any mid-range AMD card and utilize FreeSync, as nVidia refuses to support it. FreeSync monitors that are equivalent spec to G-Sync monitors are in a range of like $100-250 cheaper. So you could always get a nicer IPS and/or higher Hz monitor for cheaper, while having all the benefits of FreeSync. It's pretty win-win.

Though if you're considering a 560 I really don't think you're in the market for a $350+ IPS/144Hz monitor.

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>Order PC parts
>Everything has arrived except for the mobo and PSU

>>61498264
Fuck off and spend your own money how you want.

>>61498273
I checked some other GPUs and some of them seem to restock on 31st,(Atleast for amazon.co.uk) guys save your money until then

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>>61498100
Plz respond

>>61498285
>wasting money
ok retard

>>61498278
>not telling them to ship everything at the same time

>>61498273
I hope it's not a box full of spiders, anon.

>>61498300
>having a working computer that can do what you want vs having a bunch of components sitting around doing nothing
>wasting money

Confirmed retard. These GPUs can either serve as a back-up in the future or can be sold later to recoup costs. If you actually get use out of it then it's certainly not wasted like you falsely claim.

>>61498301
I am way too excited, finally I can remove the Radeon 6450 from my new PC

>>61498324
you could spend that money right now on something better

>>61498299

See >>61498138
Alternatively, a Corsair RMx series, Seasonic S12G or G series or Cooler Master V series.

>>61498363
Is the EVGA GQ 650W Hybrid Modular 80+ good?

>>61498357
What would be better that wouldn't also just be a stop-gap solution? All the better new cards are overpriced for non-mining use.

>>61498379
To my knowledge the G2 and G3 series are of higher quality. You could check out Jonny Guru to see if he's reviewed the specific PSU series.

>>61498406
G2 and G3 are slash g approved anon san
>>61498379

>>61498399
anything cheaper.
you should at least get proper ram from the beginning when you're spending that much money anyway, and RAM isnt that overpriced like GPUs.

How much to top of the line gpus like the 1080 ti cost around black friday/cyber monday?

>>61498452
Anything weaker than a RX560/1050 isn't even capable of playing games at an acceptable level. No one even said anything about sacrificing RAM speeds for a GPU. And DDR4 prices are actually inflated right now due to the mobile phone market.

>>61498743
>No one even said anything about sacrificing RAM speeds for a GPU.
neither did i, i said since they are not massively overpriced like GPUs, there's no fucking reason to buy shit RAM now just to replace later.

>>61498798
Why even bring it up then?

>>61498824
are you fucking retarded? learn to read.

What's the best way to persuade parents that they're son shouldn't get bought an overpriced prebuilt pc over the custom one I am willing to build for them?

>>61498830
You've just made poor arguments from the beginning. No one said anything about RAM until you mentioned it effectively as a red herring to the original statement about temporary GPU purchases. The idea of purchasing an entry-level GPU as a stop-gap measure until you are able to purchase a more reasonably priced, mid-tier GPU is a sound decision in many cases given the current GPU market. Stop pretending like you're making a good case for the contrary because so far you're just floundering.

Learn to make a coherent argument instead of just calling people retarded and pretending like you've won.

>>61498903
>price
>upgradability
>longevity
>quality

>>61498915
go look at the origina post again you blind tard, he had a smaller slower kit of ram in the build list and linked another kit saying he was gonna replace it later

>>61498903
You can't because
i7 7700k 600$ custom built pc that was destroyed by a 13 years old < 1000$ pre built i3

>>61498940
Your original reply to me was about GPUs, I'm not talking about the original poster's RAM question. At no point did I even mention RAM and my argument never included it--I've been talking about GPUs this entire time. You're just deflecting against my original point about GPUs by saying the OP should get better RAM.

The original post from you that I replied to was >>61498264
which is just about temporary cards. That was the entire focus of my argument. You haven't made a good case this entire time because you seemingly can't. You made a stupid statement as a knee-jerk reaction and can't back it up with an argument.

>>61498903
Convince them of your own competence first of all. They need to know you're not going to fuck anything up while assembling the computer.
Show them the parts themselves on PCPartPicker, show them explicitly they all are compatible together. Show them a brief video of how to assemble a PC.

Don't be mean to them. Calmly convince them you know what you're doing, and that everything will be better if they get the custom PC instead of the prebuilt.

redpill me on making this cheaper
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nM973F

Intel 600p SSD, yay or nay?
Looking for a cheap one, there is only this option or Kingston (both 2.5" / M.2).
>SM2280S3G2/120G / A400

>>61497435
You can't go wrong with microcenter and their cpu mobo deals. Thank christ I work less than five minutes away from the only one in the state.

I have tinnitus which reacts to noise so I'm downgrading to a silent pc, is this ok value for money given that I need it silent?
https://www.quietpc.com/sys-a460s

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>>61499169
>High end gpu
>The cheapest mobo you found
>Mid range cpu
What are you using that pc for?

>>61499270
vidya

>>61499169
>>61499302
You don't, you make it more expensive.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ch84f8

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>>61499403
>8 cores
also what's wrong with a cheap mobo

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Money isn't an issue
Mostly used for video editing and light gaming
Already have 2x titanX Pascal
1200w PS
Custom water loop

>>61499537
Why not wait for threadripper?

>>61499633
this desu. if he can afford titans, threadripper is the way to go

>>61499455
Can you afford the upgrades? I mean, if not, obviously stick to what you posted. If you can, just get the better shit my dude.
If you stick to your original list, I'd recommend a smaller case because of your mATX board. That'll save some money too, probably.

i dont really know how mining works, but why do miners need fancy gpus?

>>61497224
is this a good combination of CPU, Motherboard and RAM?

- SuperMicro H8DMU Server Motherboard Opteron Socket F

- Matched Pair AMD Opteron 2431 2.4GHz 6-Core CPUs

- 16GB Kit 8x2GB Hynix PC2-5300F DDR2 667MHz 2Rx4 HMP525F7FFP4C-Y5N3 AB-C ECC RAM

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Looking for new hard drive to combine my gaming and general media storage.

My last gaming hard drive was when WD Blacks were the standard, but considering space is so plentiful, and even the modest hard drive is fairly snappy, I'm looking at other drives, especially considering the Black I want to get is nearly $300.

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what do you guys think of my super budget build? I got the motherboard, ram, cpu, and case for free from a friend of mine; and i pulled the optical drive from an old computer.

>>61499812
WD blues are the standard, more or less.

SSD's are being used in $600+ builds for boot and some programs+games

>>61499828
looks decent. I'd trash the optical drive for a blu ray drive though

>>61499854
This before or after they turned into Greens?

You are aware that all Blues, except for the 500GB and maybe the 1TB are effectively Greens.

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I have a pininfarina external hard drive with 250 gb from like 2008. If I pulled it apart, assuming it's a 3.5" drive, could I just replace it with a 2 TB modern HDD?
I love how the enclosure looks. Still works, just want more capacity

>>61499828
So you're actually only buying the HDD, GPU and PSU? That picture is just every component?

If so, I can really only recommend grabbing a cheap SSD for a boot drive and your most played games/used applications. Kingston A400 is only about $55 for 120GB.

Upgrade the PSU to an EVGA G3 550w.

>>61499909
I had one of those drive--fairly certain they use proprietary parts.

But you'll never know if you don't try.

From that standpoint though, you can just go to Costco and get a brand new drive.

Thinking of starting a VR arcade. Can you guys build me a minimum-price vive-ready machine? I was thinking of basing it around a 480 or a 1070.

>>61499928
I love the enclosure though. As a car fan, Pininfarina is a storied name having designed almost every Ferrari you've ever known.
Looking it up said they used a 2.5" HDD inside.

>>61497224
Where can I get really big cases that I can fit server motherboards in. I don't mine having to do some modification.

>>61499941
That's a bad idea--VR is such a novel thing and expensive as fuck to get into.

I've never seen a VR arcade stay in business for more than a few years.

>>61499633
We don't know if TR will even be good.
I can wait no problem though

How's this budget build?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kmcRPs
I was thinking of using the PSU I already own, but is it enough? Also is the b350 motherboard a good buy or should I pay extra for a x370? My budget is flexible, and I currently have an old 1600x900 monitor; I might upgrade to a 1080p monitor later on.

>>61500008
So? If you break even and make money (which you would, in 4 years), you just dip out and sell your used parts for a cheap recoup of part of the costs on top of that.
4 years ago, VR was shit. The current software environment is fucking beautiful. Arizona Sunshine was not released 4 years ago.

>>61499877
Yes, and almost everyone is using SSDs now for gaming.
Blues are just for bulk file storage unless you are doing budget builds in the sub 500 range.

>>61499781
pls respond

>>61499909
this will likely be an IDE connection internally

>>61500094
Check to make sure your ram that you picked out is on the mobo's qvl list. Otherwise looks bretty good. Good luck getting a 580 at msrp though.

>>61499928
>>61499950
>>61500176
Found a disassembly guide
http://www.gearhack.com/myink/ViewPage.php?file=docs/SimpleTech%20FS-U25%20160%20GB%20Portable%20Hard%20Drive%20Disassembly

It's a sata drive. I undid the 4 screw and the back comes off easily, but the front refuses to and I don't want to break it.

>2008
>IDE connection

>>61500158
Except NAND prices shot through the roof, so it's impossible to find large drives are decent prices.

>>61500191
Thanks m8 I gotta check that out. Also finding the r9580 at a good price will be near impossible, I might have to go the Nvidia route.

>>61499868
thanks. yeah i plan on swapping it out eventually
>>61499919
yeah. ill probably swap over to an ssd eventually too.

>>61500405
low end nvidia isn't much better right now, waiting for vega might actually be a thing you have to do

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wVxb9W
Does this build sound decent, or should I wait for gpu prices to go down and get something better for a little more

>>61500214
update. got the sides off so I could hopefully see what I'm doing. Looks like there's a clip at the front that's being stubborn.
I have opened it enough to confirm that it is a 3.5" Western digital HDD and replacing it would be very possible if I can get the enclosure off without breaking it

>>61499877
>You are aware that all Blues, except for the 500GB and maybe the 1TB are effectively Greens.
Could you explain this to a pleb?

>>61500558
Is Vega supposed to replace the mid range GPUs? All I want is a good mid range GPU. I hope Vega doesn't disappoint.

>>61500586
I feel like you could do better with the case and psu, otherwise the gpu won't be bad if you plan on playing light stuff

>>61500772
>Is Vega supposed to replace the mid range GPUs?
right now it's speculated that it's going to be on par with the 1080 at a much(?) lower price, but it's an extreme power hog

>>61500586
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jMLw2R
Save $100 and do this. 1600 and the stock cooler is solid, faster ram, an ssd, overclockable motherboard, and a better psu. I'd opt for a 1050 but that's up to you.

>>61499774
more cores= better hash cracking
more expensive gpus have more cores on average

I need a super cheap GPU for a Ryzen build that will be used only for web browsing for now until I get a 1080ti in a few months. Should I just use a GT 710?

>>61500586
The cooler is shit. Grab a Cryirig H7 AM4 edition.
>1600X processor
>A320M chipset
at least get a good B350
>Xion case
No. You will hate yourself. If you want a cheap case that won't make life a living hell for you while building, get a Corsair Carbide series.
>non-modular, non-rated PSU
That thing will smoke and burn and cause a housefire. Grab a Seasonic 512W fully modular PSU for around $40

The graphics card is ok as a stopgap until better cards are in stock at reasonable prices. When that happens, replace it with an RX 570 or 580.

Fuck it, let me rebuild this for you.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wf3mTH

>>61498379
Review on johnnyguru was ok for ripple with great efficiency. Got one on sale for ~$40 and had no problems using it for the past half year. The eco mode also makes it so that it rarely turns on when using lower powered components.

>>61500876
You can pick up 660s for under $50

Need a 2TB HDD for games and shit.
Haven't kept up with hard drive tech, which brands are good/shit?
Don't mind spending a bit extra for quality parts.
Is 7200rpm still considered good these days?

>>61500914
yes, 7200 rpm is still good.
I personally recommend a Seagate Barracuda for around $66 for the 2TB model.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/CbL7YJ/seagate-barracuda-2tb-35-7200rpm-internal-hard-drive-st2000dm006

>>61500944
Was just looking at this one.
Seems to be a very popular drive right now, fuck it I might even get two for that price.
Thanks man.

can i use an external drive with a usb as a permanent drive somehow or is that retarded/with major drawbacks

>>61501005
I did it for years with this thing
>>61499909
Just keep it constantly plugged in and turned on with your computer

>>61501005
I've been using an external since my internal hdd died out, and it's awful.
What do you plan to use it for?

is there any reason not to distribute ideal ram total to all 4 slots over 2, if available?

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>>61497224
Got my athlon 64 X2 6000+ in the mail today, managed to OC to 3.4GHz 1.42v on stock cooling, temps are 65C idle and 95 full load (suicide squad), 5 hours prime95 no errors.
Also recently got my XFX 8800GT alpha dog edition, runs crysis on high ~45fps at 720p.

>>61501071
anything i would use my normal HD for. I've had an 1tb external drive that's just been lying around for 6 years. IIRC it's an SSD. Would that make it less shit for using as main drive?
>>61501046
can i store it within the case?

>>61501123
>can i store it within the case?
Not recommended. It has it's own PSU, and it's own power button, and connects to the computer via a USB port. You'd have to open the computer every time to turn it off/on, and leave a hole in the case for the power cable to go through. I had mine sitting on top of the case at all times.

>>61500914
Any 7200rpm should do fine
Just pick a cheap one
Using Seagate Barracuda myself

>>61501123
The major drawback with external is speed. USB3.0 doesn't hold a candle to sata6.0gb, if you're planning to put shit like steam and new games on it, you can forget about it. An external will be fine for storing files though, just don't expect to run any programs from it though.

So I've been tossing up between a 1600 and 7700k and was about to buy the 1600 when I noticed one of the shops I go to is throwing in any Z270 mobo for free with the 7700k. This makes it a no brainer right?

>>61501321
not necessarily. Consider your use case. Do you plan on streaming, at all? 1600

>>61501343
144hz 1080p gaming. Total costs would be 525 for the 1600 and mobo, 460 for the 7700k bundle.

Also I haven't looked into Z270 mobos at all, are there any particularly good ones?

I'm looking at getting a 144hz freesync monitor, are curved monitors a meme?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VWZ9m8
ive trimmed some of the fat. r8 pls

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*maniacal laughter*

>>61501538
I can safely assume you're this dude >>61499455

In which case, why the removal of the SSD? I can understand the downgrade to the 1600, no heatsink, cheaper ram, and G2 PSU, but... SSDs are really nice, dude.

>>61501538
>paying for windows 8
The fuck?

>>61501579
I might get an SSD in the future. It's just the lowest of my priorities right now.

Best place for buying ssd's? I need a 256 OS drive for cheap

>>61501374
Dude of course that's a no-brainer. Get it and grab either the Asus Strix, MSI SLI/Tomahawk or Gigabyte Gaming

>>61501591
Ok so what's up with the monitor/OS situation? Are those 2 things you already have, or?

Because I can safely say that 1080p 144hz > 1440p 60hz.
The change from 60hz to 144hz is simply incredible.

>>61501441
Curved monitors are ok as long as they are 16:9 aspect ratio.
144hz on its own is a meme because you aren't going to hold 144fps at all times.
144hz with freesync/gsync is not a meme, and is the best choice when going above 60fps.

This is a 1080p monitor or 1440p?

>>61501641
i've got a shitty laptop right now and this is my first build, so no desk monitor. My current laptop screen is 60hz and it seems sufficient. I'd much rather have a higher res.
I have win 8.1 on my laptop, but you cant use a single product key on multiple systems, so you have to buy. I'd torrent but it just makes me extremely paranoid.

>>61501607
Due to a parts shortage, this is the worst time to get an ssd.
Just wait for january stock clearance sales

10/10 would not listen
Built me an AMD

>>61501676
1080p monitor

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Can other partner cards please stop making edgy nonsense with hard sharp edges and just copy sapphire? The heatsink side is just a nice understated black rectangle and the backplate is aesthetic.

>>61501684
>and it seems sufficient. I'd much rather have a higher res
Do you have any tech store near you with monitors on display? Because 144hz really is nice. But ultimately it's up to you, so I won't press the issue further.

>I'd torrent but it just makes me extremely paranoid
I just downloaded the iso from Microsoft and installed it on my brother's PC I built a few days ago. It's not even non-genuine. There's also something about an accessibility version for free, so you can google that.

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10ISO/

Burn it to a CD or use rufus and make a bootable flash drive and install it.

My dad has used and installed pirated versions of Windows on 100s of peoples computers (he had a local PC shop). There isn't anything to be paranoid about. I've never used a genuine copy of Windows in my life.

>buying 3440x1440 34 inch ultra wide monitor
>still have a 970

Should I get a 1070 or is a 1080 worth the extra price?

Is there much of a performance difference when using 4x4gb vs 2x8gb?

>>61501859
4x4GB will be harder to run at high speeds

>>61501538
Get a better board and you're good
Asrock B350 pro4 or MSI B350 pro carbon should be fine

>>61501890
>>61501538
There's literally nothing wrong with the tomahawk series. It's recommended for a reason and one of the most popular boards in /pcbg/

Justify your reasoning.

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/RNqPBP

How am I doing? The plan is to be gaming at max settings and some streaming.
I'd like to run the cpu rad front mounted and the gpu rad as a rear exhaust. Am i likely to run into case heat issues?

>>61501907
This is an expensive build so might as well spend some more shekels for better VRM and some fancy things
And the Asrock pro4 is barely more expensive

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Does win10 still randomly force you out of whatever you are doing for pointless updates that have day1 exploits anyway?

Give me a reason to not just use a skinned 8.1 that I actually still have some control over.

>>61501926
>Intel quad core
>multitasking

Ryzen isn't a meme, consider an am4 board and a 1700. Am4 will be supported till 2020 ish and zen2 7nm will be a drop in so there's an easy upgrade path.

Or wait for coffee lake.

>>61501934
Windows 7 exists

>>61501826
Get the 1080, Ultrawide 1440p is almost the same resolution as 4K

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dccJ9W

>gonna build my first PC
>create build that anons here tell me is pretty decent and won't need to be upgraded for a while
>less than a thousand dollars
>still saving up money for it
>GPU increases in price by like 100 fucking dollars in a week

Are they ever going to get cheaper again?

Can anyone recommend a good alternative to this video card that'll work just as well but isn't so expensive?

I'm trying to stay under 1000$

My goal is to make a PC that'll run Arma III or Squad at 30 FPS without bursting into flames, I figure that's powerful enough for about anything I'll be using it for in the forseeable future.

Should I get any extra fans for the case?

>>61501934
>>61501966

>>61501966
>>61502007
So my choices are forced restarts or EOL windows 7?

>>61501995
miners were buying them in bulk for mining. Don't worry. the mining market recently crashed. GPU prices should be normal within 2 months.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N2VmTH
I've been saving up over the summer to make my first build. My budget is around $1250. Was going to add the GTX 1070, but the prices seem a little inflated? Should I just get a 1060 for now?
zBrush, maya, photoshop are the programs I tend to use the most.

>>61502045
see:
>>61502027

>>61501995
Recommend going with a 4GB RX560 or 1050/ti (preferably the ti as 2GB isn't really enough anymore) as sort of a placeholder until GPU prices drop down to normal again (that will likely still take a while)
Will play video games just fine and a RX560 is only like 125$
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/J698TW/asus-radeon-rx-560-4gb-video-card-rx560-4g

>>61501995
>are they going to get cheaper again
Maybe, but the people parroting that current crypto prices will cause a panic selloff or a magic increase in stock are idiots.

>alternatives
-newegg is selling RX580s in various combos at about 250$ for the card +whatever other shit its being bundled with

-wait for Vega™ and hope nvidia shits out cards or the market adjusts

-try to find some used shit like a 980 or bid on a ex-cryptojew shit on ebay
-

>>61501926
Please rethink the CLC. A proper air cooler will be much better than a CLC.
You're using the Define R5, I have the R4, just get a couple good intake fans for the front and you'll be fine with a NH-D15 or Dark Rock Pro 3. I have 2 Noctua intakes (140mm) and a NH-D14 and under load hit ~70c in a hot bedroom with my 3570k.
As an anecdote, my Corsair H100i v2 died twice. It's sitting on my shelf while I use my NH-D14. (Yes, I realize your build has the H110i)

Maybe color-coordinate your ram? So the black set of LPX ram.

Same concerns about water with the GPU. Ehhhh.

That PSU is death waiting to happen. Get a different one. This seriously isn't optional. At least upgrade to the CXM grey label series, not the green label. Or the RMx series.

>>61501955
the suggestion being that amd is better when streaming? It doesn't happen often and I haven't seen any problems with older intel builds previously but I'll do some research. thoughts on the rad placements? any other suggestions?

>>61501934
>Give me a reason to not just use a skinned 8.1 that I actually still have some control over.
Depends on what you want to do with it. Windows 8.1 is never getting DirectX 12, if you care about this you need Windows 10. Same if you care about watching Netflix in 4k on your computer, as you can only do this in Edge on a Kaby Lake based system.
If you care about either of those things, you need Windows 10. No getting around it, nothing to discuss. If you don't care, you go ahead and use Windows 8.1, 10 doesn't offer much over it otherwise.

>>61502027
>guys PPD is low so everyone will just stop buying GPUs for crypto and dump everything

Stop pretending you know what miners are up to.

>>61502065
PSU is death waiting to happen? what's wrong? underpowered or just the make/model?

>building pc
>PC assembled
>Lights Fans, CPU Fan, HDD all powered and working fine
>plug into display to load bios
>no display output??
what could be happening? i've removed the ram into different spots made sure i've plugged everything in properly pulled everything apart and put it back together? all googleds showed up is the bios could be set to an older version and it needs to be updated?

>>61502067
The 7600 isn't bad at all, but the price/preform right now is garbage. Intel got caught with their head up their ass, and other then some shaky day1 driver issues ryzen has proved its worth, especially in newer titles with better multicore. Intel 7700 is still better for 144hz.

I don't know much about that case for rad placement, but top mount or upper sides is pretty much the standard.

>>61502092
I initially misread the PSU as the CXM series, not the CSM series. Bit of an overreaction on my part, as I've read many horrible things about that line of PSUs. Apparently there was a second wave of them to fix the issues, as well.

Here's a link to JonnyGuru about that PSU
https://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&file=print&reid=366

I'd still recommend another line of PSUs, if it's affordable to do so. I know Australia has some horrible prices.

>>61502051
Cool. I will wait a couple of weeks then. More time to save up.

>>61502016
If you go 8.1 and you have an AMD GPU you won't have Crimson driver support
it's 7 and 10 only from AMD

good horizontal case?

>>61502148
yeah don't get me started on aus pricing. I've had seasonic in the past which I thought made the corsair ones. suggestions?

>>61502181
air 540, orients either way

How should I configure my radiator and fans for my H440? Radiator + fans on top and exaust air out or radiator + fans in the front and pull air in? I'm also replacing the stock fans that came with the case.

>>61502193
Channel Well makes the PSU I have for Corsair: the HX850i.
Seasonic and Channel Well supply Corsair. That doesn't mean they can always use premium innards for every PSU lines, the CSM and CXM were budget lines for Corsair.

After looking at the prices, I've found a couple PSUs which could potentially replace it.

Cooler Master RS650-AMAAG1-S1 - $135.00 - +$24
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/vJvRsY/cooler-master-power-supply-rs650amaag1s1
https://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=383

and

SeaSonic SSR-550RM - $135.00 - +$24
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/product/DPCwrH/seasonic-power-supply-ssr550rm
https://www.jonnyguru.com/modules.php?name=NDReviews&op=Story&reid=323

Read, and make up your own mind if the price difference is worth it to you. I'd personally choose either of the ones I listed.

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>>61502053
I'll probably go with the card you linked and wait for prices to drop, if they every do.

Know if it'd run Rising Storm 2 decently? I've been wanting to play that.


And just out of curiosity, I ripped this dusty old piece of shit out of an old family computer I disassembled for fun because it had viruses, constantly overheated, and because I wanted to get familiar with the inside of a PC before I build a dedicated gaming PC.
How fucked would I be trying to run modern games with it for a few months until I upgrade?
I assume it'll perform terribly, but if I can save money it's worth asking about.

>>61502302
A 560/460 may suffer in RS2, only the 4gb overclocked ones seem to be able to handle it
Expect very low settings and an iffy framerate in 1080p

I suggest going with the GT 710, you can pick them up for like 15$ on eBay used, and theyre just fine for shitposting and 1080p video

>>61502122
Youre plugged into the right output?
If you have a dedicated gpu, plug into the gpu
If that doesnt work, remove it and go with motherboard igp and see id that works
If not, RMA mobo

>New "Asus Prime B350 Plus" mainboard + Ryzen R5 1400 for just 190€
>tfw didn't strike and it's sold out already

>>61502302
>>61502375
It will do just fine
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDkodnIejdk

So a friend of mine is coming from UK soon and since I can't find some pc parts I want here, I was thinking of ordering them from amazon to their house so he can bring them when he flies over

Has anyone tried this? Will they allow them, sealed in their boxes and stuff?

Thoughts on the quad cube? Looking to get one.

First time building a PC.
Which side of the fan is supposed to be pull vs which side is push?

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Hey /g/. I wanna buy a new monitor. I'm currently using a pretty generic 23" 1080p LG one and since i recently bought a GTX1080 i wanted to upgrade my resolution. Now, apparently 4k is kind of a meme from what i've read, being extremely hard to get good performance on and since i actually know basically nothing about monitors i wanted to ask if 2K monitors are worth it, and also about any other tips that could be useful when picking which one to buy.

>>61502536

there's usually an arrow on the side

>>61502536
There's two sides, the fully exposed fan and the other side with the plastic that leads out from the shell to house the bearing. This is the side air flows to. The exposed side draws it in.

Alternatively, there's usually some arrows on one of the fans sides.

>>61502553
>>61502560
Thanks familia.
I have is 2 intake 2 exhaust fan a good setup?

>>61502388
will have to RMA mobo

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The CPU on my new server build is running very hot. It is a Pentium D1508 in this board: http://www.supermicro.com/products/motherboard/Xeon/D/X10SDV-2C-TLN2F.cfm
The CPU has a heatsink but no fan. Why would the CPU be running so hot and what could I do to bring the temperature down? I intend to have this server running 24/7, so temps like this are really worrying.

>>61502674
>No fan
Then get a fan?

I recently replaced my A10 7700K with an A10 7870k CPU and now I keep getting a blue screen with "Kernel_Security_Check_Failure"

wtf did I do wrong

>>61502674
>what could I do to bring the temperature down?
by getting a fan

>>61502733
>>61502717
I don't want a fan. I want a passive heatsink.

I wonder if maybe the sensors are reporting the wrong temperatures. Also this red LED light is on which could mean overheating or something else. Hmm....

>>61502755
Well you are going to need better thermal paste or bigger heatsink then.

What's the cheapest you can make a decent PC?

I was able to make a decent PC for about $200 with:
Core2Duo 3.0Ghz
4GB of RAM
500GB 7200RPM HDD
2GB GTX 710

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>>61501559
>Cardboard Case
>Second Life

What Monitor of 24" would you recommend me if I want that movies look good and play some games (not a hardcore gamer)? Budget around 250€.

And any comments of my build would be appreciate it: https://es.pcpartpicker.com/list/jLZxJV

Thanks!

>>61502755
You must have been the sandbagger at Fukishima when shit went south, eh? Maybe google "Thermodynamics" and maybe read the first few results a few dozen times over and you maybe won't cause another meltdown buddy boy

>>61502798
Some Dell IPS
Using a P2416D myself

Building an itx ryzen setup.

Do I want to go with ASRock x370 itx or the Gigabyte AB350 itx?

I do plan on doing some overclocking with a Ryzen 1700.

All going into a Fractal Nano S

>>61502905
Gigabyte. There's no reason for an X370 chipset on an ITX board.

>>61502720
Sounds like a driver is acting aloof. Is this happening when Windows tries to initialize or when a program tries to open..?

>>61497288
Tyrone...

>>61502911
I heard the Gigabyte has VRM issues.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q17TjAzUb1s

I'm not exactly budget conscious, it just needs to run well in itx form.

I'm more concerned about overclocking, bios updates, and support for highspeed ram and m.2 nvme storage (which i hear has some issues cold booting into on am4 boards).

>>61502923
it's not on startup, but it'll randomly do it after i've on for 3o minutes or so

>>61502944
It's pretty hard to diagnose those errors, especially so when you're not the machine operator.

Try disabling all your startup programs, rebooting, then just open your browser and browse the web. If it still happens, it's a driver that initializes with windows. That at least narrows the search.

Also, does your motherboard have a newer version of the BIOS?

>>61502977
i haven't updated the BIOS so no, but it's a pretty old motherboard model so I don't know if there even has been an update

Whats a good gpu to pair wth g4400?

im thinking 1050 ti? or just 1050?

>>61503044
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL7YcPlJ83c

>>61502864
Seems good, thanks.

>>61502798
Should I change the mobo to a MSI - B350 TOMAHAWK ?

>>61501619
I may have read the bundle deal wrong, back aboard the 1600 train now.

>>61502302
>How fucked would I be trying to run modern games with it for a few months until I upgrade?
>9400GT
That card is well into "don't bother" territory. You'd be better off using integrated graphics if you have a somewhat modern CPU, or an APU.
A 9400GT isn't going to run anything as far as modern games go. At best it'll just barely pass for hardware acceleration in your browser.

How to buy a cpu?
Article or a yt vid would be great!

okay /g/entoomen
i have got a pc with p55 mobo, i3 530, 2 gb ram and 9500gt - what is the best way to get the most of it? can i put chink xeon x3430 inside?

>>61497224
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/scjBnn
this is the build i want to make i put it together a little while ago. Yes I know i should get an sdd but i can always get one later. I Just want to know if this is a decent build or not.
I only really want to play games like cs:go, league, battlefield, and maybe some games like gta and skyrim.

Which 1080ti has the best bang for its buck?
I know FEs and blower coolers are shit and I don't want a water-cooled one. Is it worth it to pay $50-100 more for an XTREME GAYMURR WTF SUPERCHARGED one or are they all more or less the same?
I'm eyeballing the EVGA and Gigabyte models.

>>61499919
you can get double the capacity for just $20 more.

>>61499974
e-ATX / full tower should do it. check the specs for the mobo and case (width/height of the mobo and mobo tray).

>>61500094
you can get x370 for almost the same price.
dont get corsair builder/cx shit psu.

>>61500397
not really.

>>61500876
buy something used for cheap.

>>61500879
>at least get a good B350
this, A-chipset cant OC.

>>61501105
you cant upgrade without replacing shit, and the fact you would still only get dual channel unless you run a workstation/server mobo. it's dumb to fill all slots if you have more than 2.

>>61501111
>>>/g/guts

>>61501676
doesnt matter if you have same hz and fps if you have freesync

>>61501591
it's better to get an ssd first and add a hdd later because you dont have to move your OS from one drive to the other or reinstall.

>>61502067
not only streaming, every kind of multithreaded workload. plus it's not far behind in everything else.
intel only shines in single-threaded tasks that are heavily IPC dependent, which isnt many things these days.

>>61502045
You should really consider Ryzen and Vega.

>>61502521
yes.

>>61502588
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8OmkmluAYAQ

>>61502775
you can get a nigga-build with intel pentium g for same price that would rape that shit core2. i wouldnt pay more than $100 for that old shit.

>>61502905
check reviews yourself

>>61503393
those already exist, JFGI

>>61503421
have you checked benchmarks for xeon and if your mobo supports them?
also up the gpu to a used gtx 960 or 950.

>>61503511
the cheapest

>>61503471
>Yes I know i should get an sdd but i can always get one later
it's easier to add HDD later because you wont have to copy the install or reinstall OS.

i would wait for ryzen 3. getting a dual core in these days is terrible.
also you get a cpu cooler with the cpu and the one you added is just as shit as the stock one.
and you get paste with aftermarket coolers.
you should really get the g4560 instead, which is kaby lake but that would mean u need to either update mobo bios before installing CPU or changing to 200 series chipset mobo.

>>61503565
>Vega
It will be trash.

>>61503587
>supposedly on par with 1080 for cheaper
>trash
k

>>61503591
>supposedly
>Vega FE based on same architecture performed shit for stupid price
k

Can I put dual slot air cooled aftermarket cards (like EVGA 1080 Ti SC2/FTW) side by side?

boring build, but does how does this look? ive only used stock coolers before.

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6MgFNN

>>61503623
>comparing a gaming card with a workstation card
classic novidiot

>>61503728
yes

>>61503778
get the nhd15 with am4 mounting bracket.
get a kit with 2 sticks of ram instead.
amd vega next month might get price drops on nvidia if you're a fanboy.
check out the carbide 400c and fractal define c.
can save a little if you get the non-X CPU and just OC that a bit.

Looking for some approved yt vids on cpu

>>61503812
Wouldn't that affect the heat dissipation, though? One card's fans are gonna be really close to the other's backplate.

>>61503778
just get r7 1700 and change mobo to msi tomahawk

>>61503838
it can if your mobo's pci-e slots have just 1 slot between them so there's no space between your cards.

that said, SLI is a shitty meme unless you have a very specific reason for it.

>>61503812
oh yeah, not sure what i was thinking about the 4 stick ram.
is the 270r not good? i like the look of the 400c though.
does the nh-d14 not come with hardware for am4?

>>61503812
Still the same architecture you retarded monkey.
>novidiot
>he thinks i'm a brandloyal cuck
Pure autism.

>>61503850
a 1700 will oc to 1800x performance?

>>61503886
it's a good case but im sure you can find something better if you look around and check youtube reviews from some hardware channels.

pretty sure the nhd14 does not come with am4 bracket, but after you buy it you can contact noctua for one, but i'd just get the d15 since it's better and they have started shipping it with am4 bracket (just double check the details before you buy).

>>61503903
>only architecture matters
http://wccftech.com/amd-radeon-rx-vega-gtx-1080-battlefield-1-comparison/

>>61503929
>tested against REFERENCE 1080
>settings other than res not mentioned
>price still rumor
>no mention of efficiency/power draw
If Vega RX can't beat a fucking 1080 FE there's no point in getting it unless AMD offers it for an extremely competitive price which they won't because HBM is expensive.
AMD beat themselves, again.

>>61503999
funny every tech guy on youtube is excited for it but you're not.
they said it's up to $300 cheaper in a complete system with freesync monitor vs gsync, that means Vega will be quite a bit cheaper than a 1080 cus gsync doesnt cost $300 more than freesync.

get a clue, faggot

>>61504029
>funny every tech guy on youtube is excited for it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iaUjU-2Jmc

>>61504041
>july 4
not gaming version of the card which was unveiled in budapest this week.

try harder, dipshit

>>61504029
The vega is 1 year late, will draw more poor and run hotter for the "same" performance as a 1080 (remember there is no FPS counter and adaptive sync makes eyeballing differences very hard). They are pricing as best as they can because Vega has a bigger die and HBM2. And Nvidia can still respond to Vega's launch by lowering the 1080 price.

>>61504029
Every "tech tuber" also was exited about X299, yet it was a miserable failure and the guy from HW unboxed even burned a contact.
Vega FE is horribly power hungry and inefficient while not delivering. Since Vega RX is based on the same architechture there no chance they will fix this in time.
You seem like a bitter fanboy who can't accept his new dildo toy isn't a pleasing as promised.
Also, Volta is on the way which will obliterate Vega RX in both performance and efficiency.

>>61504062
All true, which is why I said to wait until it's released because Nvidia might drop their prices to match.

>>61504072
>Every "tech tuber" also was exited about X299
hahahaahahaha no, not even close.

>>61504059
He is using the FE edition to extrapolate and predict the RX performances. AdoredTV aka the biggest AMD shill on youtube. Every tech guy on youtube is excited? Post some links.

>>61504079
>All true, which is why I said to wait until it's released because Nvidia might drop their prices to match.
MIght be a 1-2 months wait as well because Nvidia can afford to delay the price drop with Volta's announcement and coincide with the AIB launches.

>>61504072
>You seem like a bitter fanboy who can't accept his new dildo toy isn't a pleasing as promised.
if i was i would just say "wait and buy vega" but im not, im saying wait and see what happens. it's less than a month until release, only a fucking moron wouldnt wait.

>>61504084
go watch those that have commented on the budapest unveil

>>61503926
Pretty much, yes. If you want a bit more insurance you can get the 1700X but the 1800X is a waste IMO unless you are afraid of the BIOS and overclocking.

>>61504099
>budapest unveil
Showed nothing.
No FPS counter.
No temps. No TDP.
The only info we got was 300 dollars difference between the 2 setups.
They didn't even tell the people at the event which setup was which.
Participants have reported that one system has more visible minimum frames but they don't know which is it since they won't tell the people which setup is the AMD/Nvidia in.

>>61504126
>unveil
It wasn't an unveil you retarded faggot. SIGGRAPH is the unveil, Budapest and Portland are just marketing/hype events.

>>61503421
>>61503565
official "CPU support" list says it supports X3450, but there is no other Xeon mentioned
i understand i should upgrade ram as much as i can
also you are a pretty cool guy, thanks for help

>>61504245
depending on the cost of upgrading the CPU and RAM it might be better option to just sell it and get a whole new system.

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Just got a 1050 Ti, and it's causing my monitors to flicker black for a few seconds at a time constantly (with vertical lines appearing right before 60% of the time). I'm pretty sure it's either the drivers, or the card itself that's defective. Does anyone else have experience with this? What should I do? Here's everything I've run through so far:
- Taking the card out and putting it back in
- Hooking up different monitors (flickering still occurred, so it's not the monitors)
- Adjusting the clock rate of the gpu/memory (memory currently at -200MHz)
- Wiping all drivers off my computer, then reinstalling only the latest 1050 Ti driver

Some important observations:
- When flickering happens, it's accompanied with a large drop in GPU % usage, GPU power consumption, and GPU clock rate (to name a few).
- Flickering is not related to temperature (stays pretty constant through all of this)
- Flickering happens mainly in games. But in EVERY game--from Witcher 3 to Stardew Valley
- (The least quantitative thing I have) Flickering usually occurs when I open an in-game menu or something. With my limited knowledge, I think this may be when the computer tells the GPU to scale back because it's not doing graphics-intensive stuff anymore (dynamic frequency scaling or something like that?)

I don't even know if this is the right board to get tech support advice, but any help is appreciated

>>61504266
does it happen if you swap GPU?
is the power cable attached properly?
can you try it in a different pci-e slot?

if old card works youre 1050 is probably busted and you need to rma

>>61504266
Return it for a replacement. If you have any other GPU you can use to test the system then do so otherwise I'll assume it's the GPU. If you bought it from a vendor that allows returns and you're within that window just return it to them and ask for a replacement. Otherwise you'll have to suffer through a manufacturer RMA.

>>61504236
Kill yourself moron. I was quoting the anon I was replying to. Jesus fuck. Do AMD morons not fucking read?

>>61504287
Yeah, the old card works fine. Granted, it's an old card (upgrading an old computer) and probably can't run things like Witcher 3 that well, but it didn't have this problem. I haven't actually tried another pci-e slot, I'm gonna go check that out

But yeah. I'm def starting to feel the card is busted

>>61504347
I think if it still fucks up after I switch the slots, then I'm gonna return it (I'm still within the return window)

>>61504361
I did read, still hard to understand if you were being a snarky fuck or not.

can a pc work as a substitute for a space heater?

>>61504453
Yes, look into the Intel X299 radiator platform.

>>61503565
>you can get a intel pentium g for the same price that would rape that shit core2

Dude, I can grab one them on ebay for $10 AND be able to remove Intel ME. Fuck that $100 liability.

>>61504520
you said you paid $200 for that core2.
you can get a system with 1151 pentium g that shits all over that for the same price.

there's a ton of gun building simulators. are there any pc building simulators?

can a pc be so powerful that it makes anime real?

>>61504640
Not until computers can accurately read/write neural synapses with the human brain.
Then you can VR the rest of your life away with your waifu and it will be as real to you as anything else.

is going with a 1440p monitor over 60hz with just a gtx 1080 a bad idea?

>>61504388
The only snarky fuck here is the you who called me a retarded faggot because it wasn't an unveil. Go quote that anon who said that instead. Eat shit retard.

>>61504906
makes sense if you want good FPS.

>>61504618
I remember seeing one in development

what's a good cheap monitor i can swivel vertically for browsing the chon

>>61506299
any monitor that can swivel

Which CPU would you buy for a PC that will never used for gayming/video --- but only lots of processes run on Linux ?

>>61506554
Ryzen 1700 I guess

>>61506554
how heavy are those processes?

>>61506724
Not heavy. Lightweight stuff. But probably at least 10 processes running 24/7 ...

I guess a budget quad-core would be good? Ryzen like the other anon said?

Hey guys, keep an eye on the stock on open-box i7 7700K on monoprice, potentially good deal:
https://www.monoprice.com/product?p_id=24635

>>61506807
And R5 1400 (cheapest 8 threads you can get) would indeed but good, but if it's only 10 processes that are pretty lightweight i'm fairly sure you could run that on a cheap R3 1200 or even G4560 without much difference

>>61506919
>And R5 1400 (cheapest 8 threads you can get) would indeed but good
Sorry i didn't sleep today
An R5 1400* would indeed be good*

>>61506936
thanks anon, very helpful... I'm thinking of something like:

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/tivra/saved/q6f6hM

Trying to build an office computer and I found this case.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811154113
Has USB 3 ports and a 300W PSU.
How good are the PSUs included with these?

>>61507140
>How good are the PSUs included with these?
"What are protection circuits" tier terrible

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500$ i just want 60 fps skyrim with a nice enb.

How good are the Xeon X5640s with games (or what would their equivalent performance CPU of today be)?

>>61507035
>$200 x370-pro
What's your reasoning for this? Any particular reason you're pairing such an expensive motherboard with a somewhat budget CPU?
Also, could you tell me more about those processes? Are they RAM hungry enough to require 16GB ram? Do they care about memory bandwidth, CPU speed? What are they exactly?
Note that the 1400 does not have an integrated GPU by the way.
Also, why such an expensive case?

>>61507140
>How good are the PSUs included with these?
I won't run anything on that that I won't wanna lose.

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>>61500590
Update.
Got the thing apart.
3.5" drive. Sata connection. This one uses a 320 GB Western Digital Caviar drive. Totally replacable with like a 2/3 TB model.

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>>61507689

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>>61507701
For that one anon who said it would be an IDE drive

>>61507689
>>61507701
>>61507764
I was asking you about externals last night. It wasnt recommended that I use an external as a permanent drive, but could i just split mine open like this and use it internally without the USB?

>>61507798
As long as it is sata compatible and able to be powered by your PSU yeah. Although mounting it might be an issue if it isn't the normal 2.5/3.5 drives.

>>61507798
assuming the HDD inside it is a usable form factor like 2.5" or 3.5", sure.

Go right ahead and use an external as a permanent drive. I did with this thing. So long as your operating system isn't on it and it isn't your main drive.
Most external HDDs use standard 2.5" or 3.5" HDDs because it's cheaper.
Thinking I'll toss a 2TB Seagate Barracuda in this thing.
Oddly enough, though this thing is from 2008, Western Digital STILL sells this HDD. It's still at current standards.

>>61497968
If your still around check your ram on the qvl you may not end up with that price on ram

How much of an upgrade would it be to go from a Thinkpad T420 with an i5 2540m to a budget build with a G4560? Speaking only about performance

>>61507851
Isn't it essentially a normal HDD under the case? I thought the usb is why you wouldnt want it as a main.

I got a i5 7600K 16GB DDR4 Ram and GTX 1060 6GB, when I have a game open and open a youtube video, it starts to stutter for some reason, any idea why?

>>61508140

>>61508140

>>61508140

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I got a new computer today. The computer is running but no video plays the screen says no signal and when I unplug the video cable it said "no cable connected" so it detects something at lease. Vie tried both vga and dmi both same result. The cables still work because they work on the old computer. And in checking in the case to see if anything is unplugged and everything is firm. What could I be missing? Is there any commonly missed plug in or commonly missed step? The manual said no assembly just plug and play.

Pic related is the inside

>>61508165
no modern card has a VGA slot. The display needs to be connected to the graphics card, not the mainboard, are you sure that's not the mistake you're making?

>also not assembling it yourself

>>61508133
check CPU & GPU usage using msi afterburner
what quality for the youtube video? 1080p? 4K?

>>61508054
>Isn't it essentially a normal HDD under the case?
Right
I thought the usb is why you wouldnt want it as a main.
Right again.
Let me make it clearer. If you keep it in the enclosure, connected to the computer via a usb port, you don't want it as the main drive. If it's out and connected to the motherboard like a normal hard drive or SSD. than yea. Go right ahead.
Sorry if I didn't make that clear

>>61497224
im considering buying the monstrous build on here:
http://www.logicalincrements.com/

except the processor i think i take the best ryzen.
32gb Ram
2x1080 TI
and the 1gb SSD
and a silent watercooling unit.

my budget:6000€

Country: Germany

also: how do i get deals like paying the company price not the full price? any idea?