/mkg/ - Mechanical Keyboard General

>tfw HHKB has way too few modifiers but jap hhkb has fucked up backspace area
Life is suffering.

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KBD75

>>61486653
Also
>no F keys
Why are you even considering that trash

>>61486657
>F keys
Why did you even consider this trash

>>61486596
Best backlit pbt keycaps
GO!!!

How do cherry clears compare to gateron browns and buckling springs ?

>>61486657
>no super key
Literally useless.

Which gaterons best gaterons?

>>61487259
It can be built with one you nonce.

>>61486657
How're the LEDs on the bottom? The biggest complaint I see is that you can't see them clearly because the LEDs are bright enough. Is it hard to see for colors like red and easy to see with lighter colors, or is it fixed now?

>>61487570
Reds and Yellows are ridiculously smooth, probably the smoothest switch there is. And Yellows have a super light beginning to fall into a cushiony bottom, it's great.

If you're going linear, Gaterons are undoubtedly the best.

>>61487570
Zealios, obviously. They've got premium gold-plated springs, premium fully transparent housings and a premium 85c apiece pricetag, so they gotta be good.

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look what arrived in the post today~

>>61488125
retarded meme layout

>>61488125
>less than 75%
>not fully programmable
It's garbage.

>>61487906
Which means you will lose another key that could have been mapped into the Hyper key which gives you one more layer.

>>61488170
No, that's not how it works. When I say it can be built with one, I mean the lower left part of the keyboard can be 1.25-1.25-1.25-6.25u instead of the 1.5-1.5-7u. You get one more key, without losing anything.

>>61488125
>They cannot make a key remapping software so let's waste one whole key on a COMPACT board for the freaking Pn key of all keys.

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>>61488144
>>61488148
Got this for when i go to LAN events or around friends. I dont really use the programming side of kb's so that would be wasted on me. It is rather nice to type on and REALLY quiet. It has Nature white switches, aka slightly stiffer reds. they feel a touch lighter than black switches as thats what im most used to. at least the keycaps are nice

>>61488125
I don't know you can deal with those two differently-sized space bars.
>Pn key on a super small layout
C'mon!

>>61488304
apparently they did it because then the space bar would be 4.5u sized what would be basically impossible to find replacements

>>61486657
>cherry mx keyboardpad
>gateron switches
What did he mean by this?

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Stormtrooper reporting in

>>61489065
Is it called Stormtrooper because the blanks make you miss all the time?

My gateron blacks arrived today. They really are smoother than cherry equivalents. Thank you /mkg/.

Wait over a month for a Pro Micro clone from China but it's cheap, or not wait and get it over the weekend for thrice as expensive?

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did i do good bros?

>>61489383
Hopefully you didn't spend $110 on that. There's far better options out there for the same price.

That keyboard would be decent for $60-$70 though.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-diy-kit-Custom-mechanical-keyboard-Cherry-gateron-zealio-switch-can-choose/32821254418.html?ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10068_10173_10084_10083_10080_10082_10081_10110_10137_10111_10060_10112_10155_10113_10114_10154_438_10056_10055_10054_10182_10059_100031_10099_10078_10079_10103_10073_10102_10052_10053_10142_10107_10050_10051,searchweb201603_16,ppcSwitch_7&btsid=5f753a92-db72-43f8-a2c2-19fc3a185ed0&algo_expid=4536b26d-cc52-470b-bf31-dbae1d11fbb8-0&algo_pvid=4536b26d-cc52-470b-bf31-dbae1d11fbb8
Does anybody has bought the tada68 kit?
I want to build one with vintage Cherry MX blue.
Do I need switches with diodes or the PCB includes them?

>>61489076
that's actually pretty funny, but in episode IV they were intentionally missing.

>>61489973
Sanitize your links please. The kit comes with everything but the switches and diodes.

>>61489973
>that Aliexpress link

Holy shit, learn how to condense your fucking links, that looks fucking terrible:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Tada68-diy-kit/32821254418.html

It comes with everything, you just need to buy switches and LEDs. Then all you have to do is solder the switches and LEDs to the PCB. That's it.

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>KBP V80 Matias Click waiting at the post office for me to pay my import tax
>fucking shit post office is only open till noon
>fell asleep three days in a row trying to stay awake to go get it

Pls someone tell me the wait will be worth it, I'll be so mad if they are shit keys.

>>61490200
>KBP
ouch anon.
Should someone tell him?

>>61490200
You're joking right? Did you just go ahead and buy the first keyboard you laid your eyes on?

Did you not think to ask here first?

>>61490200
Its good if you can stand the click noise.

>>61490200
Send it back and get a refund.

Any alternative to Ducky Shine 6 that does not have the led indicator on the keys themselves ? (Preferably with tactile switches)

>>61490200
If you really wanted matias switches you should've bought a keyboard from matias themselves as KBP makes nothing but trash

>>61490527
Cooler master pro m rgb

>>61490527
>>61490550
Forgot to mention full size

>>61490570
Pro L then?

>>61490535
What's shit about them?

I didn't want the Matias made one as it has retarded shiny plastic and a gay USB pass through.

>>61490583
It doesn't have led indicator as well

>>61490608
Do people older then 12 really care how their keyboards look? Other then the fact the matias keyboard has better build quality, KBP doesn't support the V80 anymore so you'd either have to live with all the horrible bugs or flash the V60 firmware on it.

>>61490695
>Do people older then 12 really care how their keyboards look?
If I were 12 years old I wouldn't care about my keyboard getting covered in smudge, dust and fingerprints.

>have to live with all the horrible bugs
How does a keyboard have bugs?

>>61489065
what's the advantage of having empty spaces in bottom corners?

>>61490742
>How does a keyboard have bugs?
Have you never used chink shit before?
The V80 exists cause back then cherry and kailh switches were too expensive, and matias switches were the cheapest. So looking to make huge profits the chinks brought together the cheapest shit money can buy to make a mechanical keyboard. Of course now days outemu and zorro are the cheapest stuff out there so every chink shit board uses them. The only reason why they still make the v80 is because they have the left over tooling. You'll see what bugs I'm talking about when it gets to you.

>>61490804
for glorious meme branding

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So KBDfans came out with their own hypersphere rings for silencing topre. Is there any downside to installing them?

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>>61488246
I'm considering this case for my budget 60% build. Has anyone got any experience with it?

>>61490804
There's a little vibrating motor in there so you can rest the tip of your dick on it and have one of the best orgasms of your life. And thanks to the stock thick PBT keycaps and rubber dome design you can easily clean it with baby wipes. Those nips have though of everything

>>61490809
I've had a V80MTS for a year and haven't encountered any bugs or chattering.

>>61490921
Ah yes the works on my machine argument.
Just plug this into google and you'll see the issues other people have
KBP V80 key chatter problems

>>61490969
Runs great on my PC dude.

>>61490898
Yes. You have to buy overpriced rubber domes.

>>61490998
>Anecdotal evidence
Great work buddy. Did you also install that new firmware that you'd have to hunt down on facebook?

>>61491032
Works on my machine.

Could any of you anons recommend a good 60% keyboard with no meme branding for no more than $100? My dumb ass bought into a shit Razer keyboard like 4 or 5 years ago and it needs to go asap. No way I'm taking that into my dorm.

>>61491352
Rk61 for 50 bucks

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>>61491388
Thanks, looks good. Might invest in a set of keycaps though cause that font looks strange to me

>>61491352
Anne Pro is decent for 80$. It has gaterons which is superior to Kailh switches and fully programmable.

>>61491434
There's a version with cherry switches and a backlight for 15 more bucks. If you want even cheaper you can get a magicforce68 for 40 bucks

>>61491352
Tada68, unironically, unless exactly 60% is a hard requirement for you

>>61491559
I'm finding it hard to find it for sale anywhere, but I'll look into it

>>61491624
KBDFans

>>61491649
Guess I'm autistic, thanks

>>61491624
Just go to kbdfans

They also have free shipping unlike ali, so I really don't see a reason to buy anywhere else (unless you manage to get it on taobao without paying for an agent and with some kind of cheap shipping).

Apart of the hideous look, is the James Donkey good?

Where2cop swastika escape key?

>>61492000
etsy

Anyone bought the plum 84?

>>61492230
no but I have a noppoo 108 ec pro which is essentially the same board just bigger.

>>61492402
How do you like your Chinese membrane keyboard.

How is it feels like to type on linear switches?

>>61492606
Feels linear.

Go find a store that lets you try out keyboards. Switch testers are overpriced and useless.

>>61492606
Like shit.

USA
What is the quietest keyboard I can get?
I'd prefer backlighting
I don't care about what switches it uses

I was looking at the Corsair strafe rgb but I wanted to know if you guys could suggest something that might be better

Will PMKs DSA PBT keycaps fit on a Code 61/Pok3r LED? I'm unsure if the LEDs get in the way or not.

>>61493835
Matias quiet click and silenced topre are among the quietest.

>>61493835
If you are into modding you can try the jailhouse mod on mx blues. It takes care of the loud click while the tactile feedback remains.

>look up jailhouse mod mx blue on youtube
FUCK I HATE WHEN PEOPLE SLAM THEIR KEYS LIKE MEMBRANES

>>61492606
feels great

>>61493855
Yes

>>61493855
No

>>61493855
Maybe

>>61493855
Can you repeat the question?

>>61488125
had the core for 2 weeks and then sold it, layout was horrid unfortunately. You're better of buying a planck.

>>61492606
comfy

>>61494358
>>61495377

Would you recommend heavier or lighter switches for maximum comfy?

>>61495432
The lighter the better.

>>61489049
>cherry mx keyboard pad
>not even cherry g80-xxxx
What did he mean by this.

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Anyone know where one might find replica stickers for the orig. Model M? I had to remove it some years ago, it'd gotten discoloured and the adhesive had tried up.

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What should I buy if not a Pok3r?

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hey /mkg/uys is pic related any good?

>>61496219
If you want a cheap mechanical get the Easterntimes I500, it's sold under a bunch of different names but they are all the same shit.

>>61496265
This, I've mostly seen it under the VicTsing brand and you can recognise it by the uterus logo

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>>61495432
35g linears are where it's at

With the feeling of cherry reds are there comparable quieter switches, or are they pretty much the way to go?

>>61496180
> >$100
> for a keyboard

Don't get kiked, buy a Logi K120

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>>61486596
Help me /g/

I fell in love with GMK terminal but have no board

What's a good cheap board I can get in blues so I can use these asap?
>Pic related my baby

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Convince me the Realforce RGB isn't the best possible upgrade from a Cherry MX brown.

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I want a keybaord with a bluish grey base color and pink as the font color does something like that exist?
>pic semi related colors I'm looking for

>>61496592
Why do people buy these expensive ABS sets only for them to get shiny in a couple months?

>>61496607
Because it feels like shit. Get a 980C.

>>61496642
What makes it better exactly?

>>61496702
Better layout, PBT keycaps, no led bs.

>>61496571
Yes, or if you already gave a keyboard with reds then get clips or o-rings

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>>61496592
>Buys overpriced ABS trash
>Wants a cheap chink shit keyboard to put them on
Sounds about right. Get the magicforce82 for 60 bucks with gateron blues. They also sell them with cherry blues for an extra 40 bucks

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>>61496622
you mean something like this?

>>61496885
>MF82
>weirdass right shift
ehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

>>61491388
wow this is such a good suggestion

>>61497074
Not really. If you have the autism you can assemble a gh60 for ~60 bucks that's on a whole other level compared to the rk61

>>61496964
Not an issue, enjoypbt supports it.

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>>61497127
Even though GMK terminal also supports it, a short shift key just isn't as comfy. That's why most ISO keyboards suck ass

>>61497127
I ended up having to order a custom short right shift for my MF82 and using blanks on the right side modifiers. Looks good now, but we need less retarded "compact TKL" type layouts.

i need some nice black key caps with white legends for my ducky one tkl

>>61497264
Get Gaterons

>>61496056
just laminate the original one.

>>61491014
>Capacitive switches mean nothing because I am a raging faggot. I also don't understand what progressive rate springs and sliders are for because I like the feel of shaved testicles against mine when I bend over for daddy bear cock up my twink ass.

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Why does Reddit spend absurd amounts of money on ugly af keycaps?

I would rather collect anime statues.

>>61499010
Because posting a photo of 1 on reddit gets you that sweet sweet karma.

>>61486596
this keyboard exist f'real? I'm interested

>>61486596
Real question, if I were to order a RGB Keyboard
Can it produce White?

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>>61499414
it's a render, looks like it's based off of a duck viper or something similar

>>61499427
not usually very well. in my experience with RGB any "white" mode has some extreme color bleeding

ymmv

>>61496885
>Wanting to collect keyboards and keycap
>Not buying something for your own use because aesthetics
I understand that these are issues that someone who bases their value on keyboards will hate
Some people have disposable income with nothing better to do than get my work keycap for 5-10 years

>>61496219
The z-77 in non-backlit has solderless switches, which makes it easy to replace them. Mine had two faulty out of the box, but it came with a few spares so that was an easy fix. Might be something to consider for a cheaper board. It's on sale at Amazon right now 38% off, although I saw it at 50% off yesterday.

https://www.amazon.com/MechanicalEagle-Multicolor-Mechanical-Keyboard-Replaceable/dp/B01DBVH16U

>>61499621
oops, my bad, the non-backlit black one is still 50% off.

What's your guys opinion on the filco ninja majestouch 2?

>>61499427
Most likely egg white.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HimmtxHGHnk
Some boards can get you almost pure white, like the TADA68, but then it's only white, no other colors.

>>61499654
[shrug] Filco is like Ducky & Leopold, ala good solid boards with above-average price. You probably couldn't go wrong with one of those.

>>61490613
Ducky One?

>>61492230
OK switches. Super retro keycaps, which might or might not your thing. Ugly (IMO) round-edged egg-white case.

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>>61486596
where do I get giant anime mousepad weeaboo mat for under my keybard? pls respond

>tfw fell for the $200 hhkb meme
Just kidding :^)
Programming never felt so good

>>61499933
nigger you've never programmed shit

>cd
>cd..
>ls
>cd programming
>ls -a
>screenfetch

faggot

>>61499654
Might as well go for Leopold or Ducky. Filco doesn't come with PBT keycaps.

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Are Matias Click KBP V80's as shit as people say? I get mine in a few hours and I'll be somewhat upset if my Easterntimes I500 is better seeing as it cost 10% as much.

I'll try not to cry though.

>>61499983
>i am projecting

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#soon

now i need 4 more parts i think, including switches and keycaps

/blogpost

>>61500330
Wher do i get dis

>>61500245
if you bought from mechanicalkeyboards they do have good cs if you get a bad one.

Does anyone make quality 60% wood cases?

>>61499598
>5-10 years
>ABS
good one m8
Its your money and you can buy whatever you want, but don't lie to yourself and pretend its something good.

>>61500245
A common issue is key chatter, but that can easily be fixed in several ways, like updating the firmware, opening up the switch and cleaning it out, or simply desolder the broken switch and replace it. The bigger issue would be those shitty ABS keycaps it comes with, but next year matias will be coming out with PBT keycaps so by the time they wear out you can replace them.

If i'm soldering new switches onto a board what solder should i use? I have some at home but its really thick and almost seems coated in something. When i use it the solderhats are very matte gray instead of that shiny silvery surface.

Sorry if this is a retard level question

>>61500245
They're not shit, only plagued with keey chhatteeeerr. Seems like the revised switches didn't fix it.

>>61500795
It's a shame cause matias alp clones feel so good. I prefer quiet clicks to topre but the key chatter ruins the board.

>>61500891
Same here. I prefer them to topre and zealios, but I had to return my V80 with QC because a quarter of the keyboard had experienced key chatter at one point (the chatter seemed to come and go, strangely). Now that I have my own soldering gun, I'd love to try another board again.

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Redpill me on Cherry switches

>>61500940
Anyone made their own alps64?

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Meme or the real deal?

>>61500971
>blues=meh
>everything else=shit

>>61500735
60/40 lead/tin solder is easiest to work with. Get some with a rosin core so you don't have apply flux all the time.

>all these normies getting cherry whatevers and not topres

>>61500735
>>61501049
Sorry got that backwards. It's 60 tin / 40 lead.

>>61501039
blues are noisy gamer bullshit
browns or bust, bitch

>>61501073
Get out of my face faggot, blues are passable because they are noisy. How are the people around you supposed to know you're a fucking baller unless your keyboard is covered in RGB lighting and loud as fuck?

I have a K120. How can I get a dank keyboard comparable?

>>61496571
There are silent reds, also known as pinks, Just got a Filco tenkeyless with them, put some blue O-rings and double shot PBT caps on there and best kb I've ever had.

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I tried to shoot a vintage looking photo

Model M is 1988, this copy of K&R is dated 1988

>>61501064
Thanks!

>>61501182
Fucking hipster, jk, I love buckling springs but only have a replica board.

>>61501182
This shit would hit the front page on rebbit with how fucking hipster it is

I want to be able to type the sentence "nigger watermelon powered space program ape chimp bix nood ooga boiga where the white womyne at cuz knameen" 80-70% faster, what style keycaps should I use on my k120?

>>61501314
I hear cyanide dipped are the best.

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>>61486596

Hello guys, my first post here, so let's hope this goes well. The Logitech K120 is the best keyboard I have ever tried. It only cost me 8£ brand new. Why is it good you ask? I shall tell you.

Well, first of all: this keyboard is from Logitech, which is undoubtedly the best keyboard manufacturer today.

It is a rather common keyboard, yes; but because it is a Logitech, somehow it doesn't feel cheap. It's like the brand itself makes a crappy keyboard turn into a great one. I don't know, Logitech has always made me feel comfortable with cheaper products.

The keys are superbly well distributed, and your fingers won't touch the surrounding keys like some other ones I've tried. The keys are also not very soft, nor very hard to press down on. You know, this keyboard makes it just right, so that you can actually take advantage of the impulse that the rebounding keys give you.

This keyboard makes you feel like gravity is actually working WITH you, rather that against you.

Another thing I absolutely love about it, is the space bar. It is just the right size, and not too small or too big like on some other crappy keyboards from other manufacturers. The space bar is the most balanced key in the whole keyboard, it sits right at the center, and you can actually use it without looking at the keyboard. I mean, that's just brilliant design.

It's an USB keyboard. This makes it perfect for use with modern computers, and even laptops and netbooks. No more using that old crappy PS/2 port. We're in 2017, people.

I could be here all day, but in the end, I just wanted to share with you my experience with this marvelous piece of peripheral engineering. I recommend this keyboard to anyone.

>>61501182
Bretty gud anon

>>61501389
I'm LITERALLY replying to you using a K120

>>61500971
Blacks and reds are, well, linears.
Browns are shit if you expect them to be silent blues. Protip: they're not.
Blues are nice, except that they're loud, you can get one or two switches with no clicks if you're unlucky, and they're not double-tap-friendly.
Clears can be extremely heavy if you don't learn not to bottom out.

>>61501182
That unironically looks nice.

>>61501389
GTFO with that rubber dome shit.

>>61501389
Thats a very autistic post, but you're right. The k120 is the best rubber dome keyboard ever made. Shame the keycaps are absolute shit.

>>61501122
I went from a K120 to a model M and never looked back.

>>61501389
Copied and pasted from geekhack

>>61501470
which model exactly? why is it better? got a link?

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>>61501497
This model
Cause its fun to type on
Ebay.com
I bought it about two years ago for 60 bucks since my dad wanted to back to using a proper keyboard. It was an amazing typing experince so I kept it and bought him an ssk since that was the keyboard he used to have. I need the numpad for work tho.

Are gateron browns an improvement over cherry browns?

10 key or death

>>61501657
Yes

>>61501395
>>61501419
Thanks

>>61499896
>/csg/

>>61500971
Go to a shop and try some.

>>61501657
No

>>61499983
>projecting so hard he felt the need to type all them greentext just to make himself feel superior to an internet stranger

When's Kira 96 being released

>>61500995
It's like the mech version of the MS Sculpt board, which has been proved to work. What's not to like?

>>61501657
It's generally accepted so.

Friend of mine wants to sell his Asus Rog Claymore Core to me for 60€. Is it worth the price? I'm slightly off on the whole "gamer" aesthetics of it.

>>61497106
Do you have any links? The only stuff I can find is 100$+ on Aliexpress.

>>61501389
It's cheap as fuck and perfectly fine for most people.

>>61502139
no just get a tada68

Anyone bought one of these ebay 60% acrylic case?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172765335516

>>61499010
Why do you care what people on reddit spend their money on?

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>>61501909
Whoa, qb I thought you died.

>>61499896
Medical whiskey has some pretty cool playmats that work well.

>>61501389
>which is undoubtedly the best keyboard manufacturer today
>Logitech
Stop reading here.

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Is the 'Matias Clicky is louder than buckling springs' a meme? I've got both and buckling springs are way, way louder. Even my Outemu blues are louder than these Matias Clicky switches.

Anyone got a vortex race 3 meme board?

>>61502829
They make the best rubber domes, it's just their mechanical lineup that's awful.

>>61501909
What's the name of this keyset? It's really nice and I was looking for something similar.

>>61502829
it's bait/newfaggotry from a 2011 geekhack thread

Why bother getting torpe when you can buy like 25+ k120 keyboards. No need to worry about membranes wearing out when you can replace them for so cheap.

>buy keyshitboard parabastard V80
>fucking E key doesn't click

REEEEEEEEEE

I should have known to listen to you guys when you said their QC was dogshit.

>>61502958
No, my cheap local brand still better than Logitech rubber dome. And that keyboard last around 10 years but still works fine.

>>61503085
Try emailing KBP about it. They were pretty nice to me last time I contacted them. If you can solder, they will send you replacement switches. While you're at it, you might want to examine every single key for chatter.

>>61503116
>If you can solder
I've soldered before, but never a keyboard. I assume it isn't particularly difficult?

>While you're at it, you might want to examine every single key for chatter.
How would I go about doing this? It all seems to work just fine so far minus the retarded fucking E switch.

>>61502969
Looks like either vintage cherry double shots or dye subs.

>>61503129
>>61503116
Just checked some more. It isn't even just that one key. There's another three or four that either don't click at all or make a shitty horrible sound like a spring being compressed.

I bought it from MechanicalKeyboards, they are in the US and I'm in the UK. Should I just return this piece of shit? Half the keys feel like buckling springs and the other half feel like cherry mx reds, I can't believe it's this fucking bad.

>>61503129
>I've soldered before, but never a keyboard. I assume it isn't particularly difficult?
Normally, the flow is like this:
1. Open up the case (KBP might show you a video showing how)
2. Desolder the faulty switch (two pins)
3. Solder the new switch
4. Assemble the case

But since the switches are plate mounted, I'm concerned that you might have to desolder every single switch to remove the plate first. Or maybe you can squeeze the faulty switches out without removing the plate. I'm not sure.

>How would I go about doing this?
Try something like this:
https://elitekeyboards.com/switchhitter.php

Then go type a random wikipedia article or something. Or do every possible key press and combination you can think of. Alternatively, you can smear across the whole keyboard with your hand, kinda like an organ palm smear. I think you might get false positives that way, so I wouldn't recommend it.

>>61503260
In that case, you might want to either go for a refund or a replacement.

>>61503299
Fucking ten percent restocking fee even though this shit is broken, fuck my life.

The F2 and E keys don't click at all, and the F8 and comma keys make a scratching/springy noise. The resistance from key to key is quite inconsistent and a lot of the keys have this weird problem where if you press them on the edges they take a massive amount of force to depress.

Overall I'd rate my experience with Matias Click/KBP V80 a solid -15/10, fuck this piece of shit, knew I should have just stayed with my Unicomp.

Damn, ordered my tada 2 years ago. Delivery scheduled for the 26th, chinks got the delivery on point.

>>61503361
Is it possible that you're overreacting? Boards with MX blues can have a couple of keys that don't click either.

>The resistance from key to key is quite inconsistent and a lot of the keys have this weird problem where if you press them on the edges they take a massive amount of force to depress.
I think that's by design (TM). How about giving it some time to get used to it?

>>61503383
Nah, it's really bad, they are just really inconsistent key to key. Even my 25 quid I500 feels like a better quality product than this, all the keys feel pretty near identical to press.

I don't know if I just got really unlucky with QC, or maybe it was damaged in the post. It wasn't packaged brilliantly, they just shipped it in the retail box (which has zero padding) inside a bigger box. The keys that work feel pretty good I guess, but not amazing. They don't really sound clicky though.

I need tkl type keyboard with mx blue or something that feels like it. Also want white key caps, rgb and nordic layout. What to get?

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Mechanical Keyboards similar to the WASD Code V2?

>>61503996
Ducky one.

>$60 max
>Asia
>Blue
>ANSI
>TKL
>Yes
>Shitty memebrane

>>61503996
Similar how? Build quality? Multimedia shortcuts?

Build quality:
>Filco MT2
>Leopold FC900R

Multimedia shortcuts:
>CM MasterKeys L

>>61504070
$30 tkl with outemu blue + $30 thick pbt keycaps

Is there a 75% out there with Gateron browns? I liked my Shine 3 with MX browns, but I'd like to try something a bit smaller and hopefully with fewer pinging switches.

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what are these switches?

>>61504127
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA9W13T94457
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Plum84-white-LED-backlit-mechanical-keyboard-gaterom-mx-brown-blue-red-compact-gaming-keyboard-PBT-keycap/32767632458.html
https://kbdfans.myshopify.com/products/kbd75-keyboard-set
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Fast-Free-shipping-Customized-YMD75-84-Full-Kit-CNC-Aluminum-Case-PCB-Plate-Switches-Underglow-RGB/32812690592.html

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Any keyboards/ keycap set with this color scheme?

>>61504547
Just google Dolch keycaps

>>61500439
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/royal-glam-60-wood-keyboard-case

https://mechanicalkeyboards.com/shop/index.php?l=product_detail&p=1241

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Can you recommend me a keycap set similar to this?

>>61504610
I think that's literally the EnjoyPBT keycap set.

>>61504631
Holy shit I'm not ready to pay 75$ for this. Thanks anyway.

>>61504655
it's a tada68 with an aluminium case, plastic case version costs $99 for the whole keyboard, it comes with enjoypbt keycaps but the price stays lowish (for a keyboard) because it only uses 68 keys rather than the full 117 key set

>>61504610
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Gray-Beige-Mixed-YMDK-Cherry-Profile-ANSI-104-Dye-Sub-Thick-PBT-Smooth-Feeling-Keycap-For/32813072835.html

Are SA profile keycaps a meme?

>>61504942
DSA is a bigger meme.

Is Unicomp Model M any good? Loved my IBM keyboard as a kid. Why are people more interested in Cherry MX than Uniomps?

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>That buckling spring feel
>Can never go back to other switches
Anyone else know this?

>Budget
200€ max
>Location (continent at least)
EU
>Preferred switch type
MX Brown (or equivalent)
>Layout
QWERTY AINSI
>Form factor
100%
>Backlight
probably no to have more keycap customization

>>61504988
People buy SA all the time just for the looks despite hating it for typing on, if that isn't the biggest meme in mechanical keybaords I don't know what is.

>>61505034
Cooler Master Masterkeys L PBT

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I need a QWERTZ keyboard and i decided to go with Lioncast for my new keyboard but i can't decide between

LK20
https://www.amazon.de/Lioncast-mechanische-Tenkeyless-deutsches-QWERTZ-Layout/dp/B00NMKU2Q2/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1500729591&sr=8-4&keywords=lioncast

and

LK30
https://www.amazon.de/Lioncast-mechanische-Tenkeyless-deutsches-QWERTZ-Layout/dp/B00R2S5IF0/ref=sr_1_4?ie=UTF8&qid=1500729591&sr=8-4&keywords=lioncast&th=1

Please help me to decide or notice me about better alternatives.
I'm going to use it mainly for light gaming and programming.

>>61486596
please convince me not to buy this
https://www.massdrop.com/buy/vortex-race-3-mechanical-keyboard
i already have a mechanical keyboard but this is just beautiful

>be me
>live in europe

where can i get some nice dsa keycaps inside of europe?

>>61505217
Nowhere. The only manufacturers of DSA are SP in America and the Chinks. Pick your poison.

>>61505162
i really don't see what people see in this

maybe you're not used to a non-staggered F-row so you want this F-row instead but the 1.5u esc and del makes it look like shit and it's nonstandard as fuck

how about drevo excalibur, KBD75, YMD75

>>61504655
EnjoyPBT caps are worth it though. They're thick, made of PBT, and come in cherry profile, which is arguably the best ergonomic profile for QWERTY. There are far more expensive keycaps made of ABS that come in retarded flat meme profiles that only make sense if you don't use QWERTY.

The only thing I dislike about EnjoyPBT is the color scheme. I could use a more modern color scheme than beige.

How do I clean my keyboard? Scared of breaking something ;n;

>>61505347
https://youtu.be/QPCDoANDkl4

Today my Adesso MKB-135B started acting strange. It behaves as if the left shift key is held down permanently. No other keys are effected. I'm cleaning it now but is this a common problem? I've had the keyboard just over 3 years.

>keyboards without the F-key row
>keyboards without arrow keys

Trash. Trash. Trash. Complete fucking garbage. Trash everywhere. This minimalism meme has gone too fucking far because this shit is all fucking trash. Removing the Num pad is acceptable because all of its functionality is duplicated in the normal number keys above the letter keys, it's redundant and wasted space, but now you're just fucking removing keys for the hell of it.

What's next, keyboards without Tab? Will you start edging into the Esc key and the Ctrl key and the Alt key too?

>>61505462

Arrow keys are nice to have, but honestly a dedicated function row is worthless. FN+number row is much easier to access anyway.

>>61505462
what if i have stubby fingers that make the f-row too far away but fn+numrow perfectly easy to press

>>61505256
It looks okay with 1 or 1.25u esc/del keys.

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>>61505621

>>61505685
The fuck does the circle and plus key on the bottom do?

>>61505742
They're for playing tic-tac-toe.

>>61505742
Right of the spacebar are the Alt, Fn and Ctrl keys.

>>61504109
in terms of their minimal and robust build quality, with no stupid features like macros/dancing rgb lights/programmability/dedicated steam button

>>61505028
we all do son

>>61503260
KBP does this stupid shit where they buy semi deffective switches, then lube the crap out of them. If you want a matias switch, buy it direct from matias

>>61503439
Matias QC are actually the dampened tactile switch. Their clicky switches are completly different.

>>61506098
>here's your keyboard bro

>>61506135
QC = quality control. Context, anon.

>>61506099
Is this true? That seems insanely retarded.

>>61506135
Sorry by 'QC' I meant 'quality control'.

>>61490898
The only bad thing is that they cause a slight loss in key travel which reduces the level of tactility, especially since the tactile bump is at the very top of the switch. These look to be just as thin if not thinner than hyperspheres rings so I'd say they're the best ones you can get. Going to buy some now for my Novatouch

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>>61490898
>for silencing topre
>silencing
>some rubber domes

>>61501389
We bought about 100 of these at work so I might steal one and see how good it is.

>>61506284
They silence the upstroke of the plastic sliders hitting the top of the case.

>>61506205
>Is this true?
Two+ years ago mechanical keyboards were very expensive, and the cheapest ones out there were alps clones like matias and fukka. KBP is a chink brand infamous for cuting as much cost as they possibly can. They even use shitty tai-hao keycaps on their keyboards as stock. They also had the cheapest cherry keyboards around, and all this was due to using cheap semi broken switches from both cherry and matias. I had their full size keyboard with mx blues since that was the cheapest option three years ago and I had keychatter problems, as well as key resetting problems where after pressing the key down it wouldn't come back up. It was a slightly common issue on these keyboards, but there was nothing else for sub $100. Even the cheapest keyboard the lolita was 70 bucks and had kailh switches, which at the time were some of the worst switches money can buy. A lot has happened since then and the mechanical keyboard market is 1000x better, but KBP is still stuck in the past. Even matias is improving their keyboards to keep up with the changing market

>>61506340
So stupid, I wouldn't have wasted my time and money with it if I knew this. The consistency from key to key is honestly the worst I've ever felt in any keyboard with any switches. It's like typing on a Model M that has half the plastic clips broken on one side of the board and not on the other, all the keys end up feeling slightly different. It's a shame because it seems like they would be pretty great switches if they actually all felt the same.

I just need a good TKL that isn't Cherry MX Blues, some chink needs to rip off that guys Model F remakes right about now.

>>61506399
>some chink needs to rip off that guys Model F remakes
Funny thing is that those are chink knockoffs. People just don't realize how expensive capacitive switches are. For that price its very reasonable and actually a good deal, but I don't like the layout. If you want a tkl then just get an ibm model m ssk :^)

>>61506793
IBM Model M SSK's are massively expensive for something used, and I'd get raped even harder on shipping an import tax living in the UK. I agree on that guys Model F's layout though, I need my F keys since I play vidya.

I wish Unicomp would hurry the fuck up and make a TKL, I'd buy 20. Are F's significantly better than M's? They sure sound better but I've never typed on one.

>>61505316
>The only thing I dislike about EnjoyPBT is the color scheme. I could use a more modern color scheme than beige.
I think there was a white version of tada68 on taobao and aliexpress. Does it use different keys?

Budget keyboard that I can score cheap in w-europe?

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>>61505462
>What's next, keyboards without Tab? Will you start edging into the Esc key and the Ctrl key and the Alt key too?

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>>61507424
looks like it uses the same plastic keycaps (gateron thick pbt cherry profile) but the legends don't look like they're dye subbed by enjoypbt

>>61507520
well they might be but idk they don't look like anything i've seen from enjoypbt

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>>61507520

>>61505462
meh, keypad is handy for anyone entering strings of numbers, because sadly nearly all touch typing courses ignore numbers so people don't get the muscle memory for it like they do for typing or using the keypad

>>61507557
the "white blue" looks like the whitefox keycaps. the snow white tada68 keycaps have a different font so it might be an imitation of the style (legend size and placement) by a different dye subber

>>61500522
I know I'm late but I remember a link from olkb to a guy on facebook who does that. Probably expensive though

Guys what the fuck http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/222586168393

What is current flavor of the month TKL board?

>>61508188
i-500

Quick question, how is topre for gaming? Compared to e.g. reds, silenced reds, or kailh speed

>>61507046
The 4704 model f was made up almost entirely of metal, even the PCB was 50% made of copper, and the keycaps were PBT. Other then that everything else was metal, and it needs to be like that due to how capacitive switches work. The case can be made from plastic, but that would only cut down costs by 50-80 bucks

>>61508243
Topres are capacitive switches so they actuate at the very top, but since they have a rubber dome once it colapses you bottom out.

>>61508205
>i-500
Awesome, thanks

>>61508243
It's a bit harder to double tap because the dome collapses before you can float near the actuation point. Otherwise, it's just a matter of preference, so it's perfectly fine for gaming.

>>61508181
>Joe Strandberg
>berg
in all seriousness though this is pretty cringey and off-putting that he's asking $100 for a reject of a dime a dozen chinkmade piece of plastic. makes it too obvious to his customers that they're paying a price premium for pure autism reasons

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>>61507520
Wait the fuck, the white TADA's keycaps are not dye-subbed? Fuck me. That may change things. Was planning to get it.

>>61508647
i'm not sure but i'm guessing they're dye subbed but maybe by some other company than enjoypbt

>>61496628
>Why do people buy these expensive ABS sets only for them to get shiny in a couple months?
Please someone answer this because I don't get it as well.

a) Why are GMK sets so incredibly expensive?
b) Why do people actually buy them at these prices when they can get more robust PBT sets for way less?

>>61508861
I bought mine because first set and it was aesthetic as fuck. I also don't have a board for it lmao

I don't understand people who buy products for use but don't use them. The people on mechmarket constantly flipping GMK sets (unused or light use no shine)
I plan on using mine on my work board until I wear through them
Idgaf about shine because I'm not an insecure fag who judges self worth off mechanical keyboards

>>61497172
the ISO left shift is dumb because it's further away, but a short right shift isn't a problem at all because you wouldn't use the rightmost part of the right shift anyway

>>61508960
it's not just about the looks, it's about wearing down the texture and it gets that nasty oily feel

>>61508960
>Idgaf about shine because I'm not an insecure fag who judges self worth off mechanical keyboards
Huh? For me, shiny parts feel sticky on my fingers. It always feels like the key is wet, or sticky/greasy. It's especially bad when it happens only on a few keys. I'm having PBT keys here but after a few years some spots on the space bar shine and it just feels terrible. I don't care how it looks.

>just dropped nearly $400 on an f77
>reality sets in
What have I done

>>61509075
The right thing

But why https://www.massdrop.com/buy/bastron-ipad-tablet-mechanical-keyboard-mouse

>>61509016
>First cap set
>No board
Wouldn't know but I really don't think it's going to bother me. I also don't have oily hands and regularly wash them (hospital regs) before I'm on my keyboard
I also won't let a soul touch my caps/board

Not even the gf

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/glorious-gaming-wooden-wrist-rest-bundle
Guys how much of a meme is something like this?

>>61509242
>wrist rest
Should have stopped there

Best brand for gateron reds?

halp

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>>61502478
i've just been not here

>>61502969
old cherry

Would it be worth it to get a WASD V2 with their US international layout keycaps (with alt gr symbols/letters printed on) to get used to the QWERTY layout and then get better keycaps later ?

>>61509293
But I did, because that's literally the entire thing.

>>61509684
why wouldn't you just get the board and enjoypbt at the same time?

>>61494117
wouldn't getting browns do the same?

>>61510102
I don't know, WASD is the only one I know that offers the US international symbols/letters on they custom keycaps

>>61510136
browns are barely tactile.

Fucking sucks to live on the other side of the puddle where the only decent choice is a Strafe RGB, fuck I just want one of those keyboards you all post but not paying double the price for it

let's say someone bought a shitty chink keyboard that so far I enjoy, but I want to switch some keycaps.
How would that someone go rewcognizing the correct keycaps to buy?

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>>61510542
Then get a Ducky

Classic case or ultra compact F77?

There really doesn't seem to be much difference in size between the two, because the "ultra compact" still has giant fucking bezels. Are there exact measurements of the two somewhere? I may be blind but I didn't find any on their website.

>>61510542
buy on aliexpress

is there anywhere i can get the filco black keycaps or a keycap with a legend similar to filco's?

>>61511101
Why would you want filco keycaps? They're just OEM pad printed garbage? The font isn't even special

>>61511136
the font is cool

where can i get some good black pbt keycaps that dont cost a fortune?

>>61511194
chyna

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>>61511244

>>61511177
well the font is nothing special since you can get it anywhere.
This are normally the keycaps that go on Ficlo keyboards, but I suggest you get something better
http://www.elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=access,cherrymxkeys&pid=dmx_us104_blk_tw

I spilled cherry soda (first time drinking soda in months) on my das ultimate and now the keys are sticky even after cleaning. That was a year ago. How do I clean this? I've been using a standard dell keyboard ever since :(

>>61512464
Did you try an alcohol bath?

>>61512556
I tried rubbing a qtip doused in rubbing alcohol on the switches with them pressed, not a bath. Is a bath just dunking it submerged in alcohol?

>>61512618
A better solution would be to take a needle filled with 90% alcohol then injecting the affected switched and mashing the key down until its no longer sticky. If that doesn't work then desolder and solder in new switches

>>61509621
Don't tell me your keyboard has a fucking remote.

>>61511194
Do you want printing on them? I really wanted light lettering on black in pbt, but the only non-printed option is doubleshot since you can't dyesub light on dark.

I ended up getting these:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/double-shot-pbt-keycap-cherry-profile-rainbow-cap-for-mx-usb-mechanical-gaming-keyboard-5-5/32799680240.html

I wanted the white on black as shown here:
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Mechanical-keyboard-pbt-keyboarded-a-large-black-keyboard-keyboarded/32740037614.html

But I was told they were sold out even though they're still being sold REEEEEEEEEEEE

>>61512687
But how else would you change the RGBT lighting on the fly :^)

>>61512739
It's just so silly. Can you adjust it through software/keyboard shortcuts? 'Cause I'd lose that remote in no time.

>>61512749
no and yes