/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

someone edit it so that those 2 girls are naked

>>61470144
Stop! That's illegal!

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how do i use the CLI equivalent of this? the GUI makes me want to kill myself

post obscure distros http://biebian.sourceforge.net/

I just installed Slackware a few hours ago. I wanted to kill myself on the very start but now I just can't fathom the idea of leaving it. It somehow mimics the responsibility of real life.

I wanted to try Debian or Devuan, but it seems I got sucked in by Slackware

>>61470203
android

>>61470178
Xrandr, usually but it depends on if you're on wayland or x11.
What're you using it for?

>>61470178
man xrandr

>>61470203
Have some pasta (pretty incomplete):

*** Recommended GNU/Linux distributions ***

>Aloonix
https://aloonix.neocities.org/
>Apartheid Linux:
https://www.stormfront.org/forum/t786671/
>Biebian:
http://biebian.sourceforge.net/
>Hannah Montana Linux
http://hannahmontana.sourceforge.net/Site/Home.html
>HITLERLINUX
http://properfucked.net/hitlerlinux.html
>Jewbuntu
http://www.jewbuntu.org/
>Moebuntu
http://moebuntu.web.fc2.com/home_eng.htm
>PonyOS
http://www.ponyos.org/
>Suicide Linux
https://qntm.org/suicide
>Ubuntu Christian Edition
http://ubuntuce.com/
>Ubuntu Muslim Edition
http://www.junauza.com/2007/10/christians-view-on-ubuntu-muslim.html
>Ubuntu Satanic Edition
http://ubuntusatanic.org/

>>61470178
xrandr

>>61470226
>PonyOS
not gnu/linux
>>61470178
xrandr

Does Arch' version of LXQt use KWin already?

>>61470240
>PonyOS
>not gnu/linux
they use their own kernel, which is impressive.

>>61470226
>>HITLERLINUX
>http://properfucked.net/hitlerlinux.html
This has never actually been made.

>>61470315
afaik it's at the installgentoo ftp

>>61470240
>>61470234
>>61470218
thanks
>>61470217
i wanted to move my other screen a bit down but the way the two screens stick together made it really hard to move

>>61470203
Apartheid GNU/Llinux

>>61470226
>Demi Lovato Linux
http://demilovato.sourceforge.net/

>>61470273
It looks like it is just a re-skin of an existing project that is linked from the bottom of the page. Done by the main developer for April fools day.

>>61470269
no but i imagine you can easily do so

>>61470240
>not gnu/linux
>being this dense

>>61470378
>not gnu/linux
>being this dense
>PonyOS is based on ToaruOS, which is free software released under the terms of the NCSA/University of Illinois license.
>とあるOS (ToAruOS) is a hobby kernel and supporting userspace, built mostly from scratch, in development since December of 2010.
>http://toaruos.org/pages/about.html

>>61470240
>not gnu/linux
It use custom kernel and GNU staff (?)
do its GNU/Pony

>>61470404
>PonyOS
>POS
do you get it now

>>61470226
>Linux for Niggers
https://app.assembla.com/spaces/linuxforniggers/git/source + https://archive.is/wMUeW

any serious distributions?

I want a quick and easy (yet minimal) distro for my laptop.

>Debian (non-free) doesn't recognize trackpad or wifi interface

>Arch doesn't recognize wifi interface

>Fedora doesn't support tapping trackpad, need to click the button

What choices do I have besides Ubuntu?

>>61470432
by any chance do you have intel wifi?

>>61470432
Stop right here, retard.
Choose your favorite distro and make it work.

I'm getting mad screen tearing on a vanilla Mint+Cinnamon install. Is there a quick fix? I don't know how to switch to compton and I'm not getting any results from google

>>61470458
install the right drivers

>>61470438
I think so.

>>61470447
But I'm lazy and I don't use the laptop that much.

>>61470226
> RebeccaBlackOS

https://sourceforge.net/projects/rebeccablackos/

>>61470432
https://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads
>Network installer

you'll have a working base system in minutes
>skip last step of installer (don't select additional pkg groups)
reboot and install what you want, for example:

apt install i3 lxdm lxappearance pcmanfm arc-theme breeze-icon-theme

>ib4 ubanto autistic screeching
/ ~1gb; ram usage less than 100mb

>>61470466
>I think so.

RIP in pieces them. Considering getting a freedums-respecting Atheros mini-pcie wifi from Ebay. They start from $5.

>>61470458
Try a search engine which respects your privacy.

>>61470477
I'd rather one that respects my question and gives me answers

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>>61470473
>recommending amazuntu

>>61470474
It has worked fine with all Ubuntu derivates and on Fedora.

>>61470482
Enjoy your botnet.

>>61470490
Debian derivates*

>>61470096
I really prefer the behaviour of the Windows taskbar where you can pin icons to it and when you launch them instead of there being a second item down there for the newly opened window the previously pinned icon is what you would click to minimize the window.
I tried every dock application in the get-deb and default ubuntu repo and the only docks that came close couldn't also open a "start" menu or just a menu from which you could launch any program on your computer.
Any advice on how I can get this functionality?

>>61470096
>>61470226
>>61470240
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as GNU/Linux, is in fact, C/GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, C plus GNU plus Linux. GNU/Linux is an operating system unto itself, but almost everything running on your GNU/Linux system is written in C, thus being the most important part of the GNU/Linux system. C should receive credit for this.

>>61470515
No, Ubuntu and its derivates. Debian and most of its derivates don't recognize the wifi interface. Except for Ubuntu, Mint etc.

>>61470482
b-but anon
https://stallman.org/google.html
BTW DDG is better for IT staff

>>61470532
Ubuntu and Mint are both Debian derivates.

>>61470432
They all use the same trackpad and wifi handling software

>>61470432
Fedora is probably the easiest from those

>>61470534
No love for searx?

>>61470539
Yes. I know. Ubuntu is the only Debian derivate the laptop works it! Mint is a derivate of Ubuntu. Which part of this you don't understand?

>>61470532
>Debian and most of its derivates don't recognize the wifi interface

most likely the old kernel/old proprietary driver is to blame.

>>61470556
>its another tech illiterate spreading le debian outdated meme
can't you just move to reddit

>>61470203
North star os

>>61470549
DDG have bang syntax and some interesting instant answers like qr (on my mashine i use qrencde bot not everybody have it installed)

>>61470226
Alpine Linux
https://www.alpinelinux.org/

>>61470572
I was about to explain you why you are wrong, but since it's probably no use just kill yourself kid and take your ebin "memes" and "le gb2 le reddit" with you.

>>61470601
>I was about to explain you why you are wrong, but then I realized that I actually have no arguments so I decided to be rude
:^)

>>61470489
>no unity
>amazuntu

>>61470432
>>Fedora doesn't support tapping trackpad, need to click the button
maybe you just need to enable it with libinput

>>61470520
gnome is like that by default, im willing to bet kde it too, idk what docks you tried but iirc plank was like this maybe cairo dock as well

>>61470619
>>>no unity
>>amazuntu
Nigger there are thousands of distros out there, why would anyone use the one that comes with spyware?
>just dont use unity
Are you 100% sure that something related wount happen in the future?

>>61470640
>why would anyone use the one that comes with spyware?
because it doesnt

There's a very high chance my dm-crypt USB got in the laundry machine with my jeans. Is there any way getting my laptop back without restarting from scratch?

>>61470640
>there are thousands of distros out there,
There aren't. The majority are forks (sometimes of forks). There's basically a few distros.

>>61470645
>because it doesnt
Actually it isn't just spyware, it's also insecure as fuck since the connections are made via plain http. Which means, not only go your keystrokes to ubuntu servers, amazon and get further sold to literally who, but also your neighbour can lurk what you're typing in unity and/or manipulate the connections.
Why would you use a distro that allows such malicious "features" in the first place?
I know its now opt-in in newer Ubuntu versions, but the fact that the program is still there, ready to be enabled by some beginner because why not, is just horrible.

>>61470700
no unity, no problem

>>61470666
What do you mean by "dm-crypt USB"? Was your USB stick encrypted or did you have keyfiles on it or what?

>>61470685
Forks are distributions.

>>61470619
I tried plank and cairo dock. Plank was awesome but as I said in my original post it lacked the ability to launch an application menu of any kind which meant I still needed a panel somewhere

>>61470700
sure that it's still just http?

>>61470700
not 100% correct https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2012/10/privacy-ubuntu-1210-amazon-ads-and-data-leaks

>>61470226
>What does "DE" stand for?
> "Debian Edition".
Didn't expected that

>>61470775
>2012
But still, holy crap:
>Unless you have opted out, we will also send your keystrokes as a search term to productsearch.ubuntu.com and selected third parties so that we may complement your search results with online search results from such third parties including: Facebook, Twitter, BBC and Amazon. Canonical and these selected third parties will collect your search terms and use them to provide you with search results while using Ubuntu.

>>61470728
The USB contains /boot as well as the keyfiles hidden outside a partition. A colleauge helped us setting those up so we can securely bring our laptops on construction sites. The lost wouldn't be any problem, but it'll take months to find all the blueprints and shit in the AD again

>>61470226
I think Aloonix is the best out of these.

>>61470826
fucking canonical

>>61470827
Unless you have backup keys/keyfiles there's not much you can do.

>>61470827
What are you building that you are worried about someone stealing your blueprints?

>>61470474
>>61470447
>>61470438

The driver I'm missing (installing Debian 9) is "iwlwifi". I should be fine if I install Debian 9, enable non-free repo after and install the driver, right?

>>61471224
You could also try these https://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/

>>61471233
I am trying it and it does not have the firmware.

>>61471239
>>61471233

Actually it does but for some reason it doesn't find it during the installation.

Any programs that join babes and bash?

>>61471261
What exactly is your wifi chip? Type "lspci" on terminal.

>>61471224
Can't you just load the kernel module? Never used plebian

>>61471296
>>61471294
I'll just go with Ubuntu 16.04 server, already wasted too much time on this. Thanks though.

>>61471296
Linux*
>>61471286
There, babes and bash.

curl -sSL www.asciipr0n.com/pr0n/morepr0n/pr0n$(printf '%02d' "$((RANDOM%95))").txt | grep .

>>61470700

[citation needed]

>>61471559
>>61470775

>>61471582

>ubuntu 12.10
>only affected the dash in unity

Kill yourself you meme parroter.

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>>61471611
>got sauce
>still doesn't believe

>>61471688
You can literally uninstall it when you don't like it. So hard.

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>>61471512
you da man

How can I change the gap between windows while using i3wm?

>>61472126
You have to use i3-gaps in order to do that, i3 itself doesn't support that

>>61472270
Thanks.
What can I do to enable screen brightness shortcuts and multimedia keys?

# Screen brightness controls
# increase screen brightness
bindsym XF86MonBrightnessUp exec xbacklight -inc 20

This code doesn't work for me.

>>61472359
hide_edge_borders smart
for_window [class="mpv"] floating enable
for_window [window_role="About"] floating enable
bindsym XF86AudioRaiseVolume exec amixer -q set Master 1%+ unmute
bindsym XF86AudioLowerVolume exec amixer -q set Master 1%- unmute
bindsym XF86AudioMute exec amixer -q set Master toggle

>>61472359
Have you installed xbacklight and amixer (alsa-utils IIRC)?

>>61471716

It's old and it only affects if you use Unity.
Kill yourself you retard if you're too retarded to understand that.

Post something that affects the latest version and isn't tied to a deprecated desktop envrionment (its feature).

>>61472439
Yes, I've installed them.

>>61472565
Go to the tty where you started i3 (probably tty1) and look if any errors appeared there.

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>>61470601
>>61471611
>>61472450
This is a friendly thread.
Please don't suggest suicide.

Hey y'all, so I'm gonna be switching to Linux! I'm tired of Windows, and I've realized I don't do much gaming, so it's pretty straightforward. My only questions are: Which distro would be good for audiophiles? I use a Schiit Fulla 2 for a DAC/AMP, and it working with the OS without much tinkering would be cool. I've been thinking of Linux Mint, or Ubuntu.

I've got an AMD Ryzen 1600, 16 GB 2400 RAM, an nVidia 1050 Ti. Will my computer work with Linux?

>>61473138

>>What distro should I choose?
>https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php/Babbies_First_Linux

i am sick of the fan on my laptop running almost all the time. i am using Xubuntu 16.04 LTS. is there a way to tell the fan to shut up. also i need to save my battery and this fan will definitely kill the battery.

any tips?

If I am idle for for more than approx. 15 minutes my laptop screen turns off automatically, but when I move my mouse or press a key the screen gets turned on again. However, 9 out of 10 times this is not the case and the screen will turn on, but will be black. I can only get my screen to work again by using xrandr on my second screen (which does work) to turn off my laptop screen and turn it on again a couple of times. The screen stays black when I go to a tty. How do I fix this?

I'm running Gentoo btw, but I've had this problem on every other distro that I've ever ran on this laptop.

>>61473231
If your fan is running non-stop then it means your laptop is heating up
If it stops your laptop will melt
Clean it out, re-apply thermal paste, that's all you can do.

>>61473367
i jsut switched from windows. that was not the problem. clearly it cannot be that my cpu is overheating. any programs that i can use to help see my cpu temps and manage them. ?

>>61473358
Its a kernel thing iirc, 4.12 had made it worse

>>61473577
Is there some option I can enable/disable in the kernel to fix it?

>>61473604
I have no idea, I don't use laptops or suspend, I only know about it because people are complaining online, sorry. I think Arch wiki has some workarounds on the suspend page.

How do I install a minimal installation of Ubuntu? Testing it out on a VM. I got their mini.iso and told to go for basic Ubuntu server.

When the installation is complete and restarts it brings me back to installation screen. Does this only happen on VM? Would it be fine if it was running on an actual machine?

Which wireless chipsets work without requiring propietary drivers or firmware blobs?

my usb drives won't mount but mouse will, I think it has something to do with my cdrom arrangement but I have no clue how to fix it. The usb is recognized but won't show up on my desktop to access

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>>61474011

>>61470096
WinTard here, I just tried out gnu/linux for the first time by installling Manjaro as it was recommended to me. I liked it but i felt i was bloated as fuck, is there a distro which is like Manjaro which doesn't have all the bloat preinstalled but still retain a user friendly interface?

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>>61474025
Can anyone help

>>61473937
read up in the thread

>>61474025
enable icons on desktop in tweaks

>>61474011
Google 'how to mount USB in <insert your distro>"
Problem solved.

Full step by step instructions exist

>>61474011
lsblk
find drive
mount /dev/sdX /mount/place

>>61473953
Look up h-node. They maintain a list of hardware which work with free drivers

>>61474011
>>61474036
Does the kernel version you're running match the one you've installed? If you have upgraded your kernel, you should try rebooting.

Also your mouse isn't being mounted, just being pedantic.

>>61474035
Arch

Just got a RX 560 in the mail so I can start playing around with memecoins, but it's turning out to be a pretty big headache. First, the old server I was going to plug it into wont display video with it. The only time I can get it to work is to pass `nomodeset` at boot. It won't even display video booting from a USB stick. lspci shows [AMD/ATI] Baffin [Polaris11] (rev cf) -- which looks like a generic device?

I put the card into my other computer, and it works just fine both alongside my other gpu and on it's own. It's still being displayed as '[AMD/ATI] Baffin [Polaris11] (rev cf)' in lspci, but I do have legacy AMD drivers installed for an old HD 6850.

So my question is, what do you thinks going on with the lack of video output? And also, any good reading on installing legacy drivers alongside the up-to-date binary ones for two different GPUs?

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>>61474153
I mounted it but it just changed to this and when I click into it it's empty (sorry for being a noob)

>>61474294
Then the drive is empty

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It's still not masked, how soon until it is? Should I go ahead and make the switch beforehand?

>>61474308
wait sorry I tried with the proper usb, remember I encrypted it with files in their but can't get passed this "mount: unknown filesystem type 'crypto_LUKS"

How can i create .gif from .webm with ffmpeg?
I dont want to completely convert webm, but just to make gif of specific parts of video.
Like screenshot of 1st minute, 2nd, 3rd etc and combine them into gif

>>61474347
You need to decrypt it first...

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Rate my Gnome music player. Will release it soon.

>>61474373
How can I do it via terminal?

>>61474391
Check the arch wiki on LUKS

>>61474391
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Dm-crypt/Device_encryption#Unlocking.2FMapping_LUKS_partitions_with_the_device_mapper

I just updated Kubuntu from 16.10 to 17.04 and I get a black screen on boot after the splash.
When I was installing the update, I got an error "The upgrade has aborted. Your system could be in an unusable state" and that I should run sudo dpkg --configure a which i did but it didn't seem to do anything.
I can access a TTY. Xorg log shows no errors. I tried reinstalling GPU drivers and sddm but didn't help.
How do I figure out what the issue is?

>hurr durr kubuntu is shit
yes I know, shut up

>>61470096
Want to dual boot between loonix n windoose on a 500gig ssd and 1terra hdd. How to partition? Windoose for some gaymes, loonix for all other gaymes, "productivity" and memes.

>>61474376
Seems atleast functional. Don't like the looks this much: standard slider, no love for the font, the color of the bar on the top doesn't match the color on the bottom, the color scheme is okay-ish at best. You should think about using a color wheel like color.adobe.com/create/color-wheel/

>>61474451
>>61474376
aaand the icons seem a little stretched along the x-axis

>>61474376
That looks pretty good, but maybe you should make the text bigger.

>>61474451
Shouldn't most of those things be left to the GTK/QT theme to make it more uniform?

Guys I'm gonna throw this out there, for the last few days I've been trying out F2FS on my Nexus 7, it works ridiculously fucking fast so I wondered how this was possible and started reading into it, basically it seems that for anyone running flash-based storage (which includes SSDs) F2FS is superior.

I'm thinking about switching over my secondary laptop (with a SSD) to F2FS now.

Have any of you tried it on your main machine? How has it been? I'm intrigued that we could get some serious performance boost just by switching fs type.

>>61474488
Yes, of course. But then you shouldn't show of with the looks of your prog.

>>61474567
No.Its about 20% slow on sequential writes then ext4.

>>61474606
That's fine by me as long as it's way faster reading. The responsiveness is drastically better. Most of the time I'm just watching films or writing code anyway.

>>61474626
But it's no

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clip studio with wine runs like udder shit, but like the type of shit that needs a better refresh rate. How can I fix this? using antergos btw

Netbook with 2GB Ram and intel Atom N570. Is Xubuntu a good choice? Is xfce customizable enough to get comfy on a 10" screen?

>>61475091
use Haiku

>>61475067
Use:
gimp
krita
pinta
inkscape

>>61475139
Thanks, but none of those applications have my pens

>>61475091
give Android x86 a try, might be interesting

>>61475171
>my pens
Brushes?
There are a fuck ton of brushes,even 1:1 copy from windows programs

>>61475116
I need GNU/Linux as we use that in college

what's up with the hate on systemd?

>>61475202
the brushes I use are made specifically to utilize this program's brush engine.

Even if I were to port the textures from the pens over to GIMP or Krita, it wouldn't handle them in a satisfactory way. the WINE site said Clip Studio should work with arch-based linux, just wanted to know if I did something wrong. I used wine and winetricks to install the necessary libraries.

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>>61475268
Shitty developer doing shitty things
http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Arguments_against_systemd

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>linux 4.12 still isn't on Arch
Wtf? I thought it was supposed to be a rolling release system?

>>61475320
Use the testing repo

>>61475320
>Arch
>can't even do rolling-release any more
What a joke
Install Ubuntu or even Windows at this point, you massive faggot

>>61475320
I am using 4.12.1 on my ArchGnuLinux.

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>>61470096
I lent my GF my laptop and after 2.3 quintillion years I'm finally getting it back cos she built a desktop. She's coming over today to grab some files off it and then it will truly be mine. I don't particularly use it for much so I'm thinking abt turning it into a gnu/linux machine machine to play around with and learn bash.

my question to this thread is, do you recommend anything for a newbie such as myself?

>>61475375
and I'm using 4.12.1 on Manjaro, which delays all arch packages before putting it in their repos for a "testing period". So i'm calling bullshit

>>61475444
ubuntu gnome

>>61470178
xrandr
man that shit

>>61475375
>>61475451
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/core/x86_64/linux/

>>61475444
i recommend you kys you fucking faggot

>>61470096
So what caused Ian's death?
Last I know he quit the debian committee or some shit because of systemd.

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>>61475451
>manjaro
>stable

>>61470432
You have to configure it you faggot

>>61475508
female police niggers killed him

I have a large shell script file which uses 4 spaces, what would be the best way to convert the whole thing into 2 spaces?

>>61475508
He was mentally ill and felt emasculated to the point that he felt his only option was to kill himself in some bizarre attempt to appear a victim.

>>61473541
Power management.
Some DE's come with that

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>>61475451
You're right. It's bullshit. I am using 4.12.2

>>61475573
GNU Emacs.

>>61475602
Oh look, i think im a special snowflake because i custom compiled the latest kernel.I am such a bad ass.

We are talking about stock default kernels here faggot,and you damn well know this.

You arent 'l337' for compiling a kernel
Now go kill your self

>>61475629
So butthurt

>>61473541
T L P
L
P

if you have AMD / ATi you may need to add radeon.dpm=1 to grub

you can monitor with gkrellm conky or just cat /sys/devices/something or /sys/class/thermal/something
gkrellm would be the easiest - there is a transparent theme somewhere online

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>>61475629
>>61475653

>>61475602
what phone is this? (if I'm not being memed)

Trying to install Debian 9 Non-free but it still calling for firmware. Checking the files there's no pre-installed firmware in it at all.

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>>61475492
Oh shit, I thought I was in the FRIENDLY GNU/Linux thread where I could receive FRIENDLY help from FRIENDLY anons. Clearly I was wrong because your words are a little less than FRIENDLY on account of how RUDE they are.

>>61475748
what iso are you using, paste the full filename

>>61475713
Acer T08

>>61475789
firmware-9.0.0-amd64-netinst.iso

>>61475754
Its a cry for help.
He reacts negatively to regular conversation and banter because of a deep seeded need to protect his fragile ego from years of rejection and humiliation.

>>61470096
Linux is a shitty kernel because it needs gcc optimizations rather than being good quality out of the box

Hi guys! IO've been trying to understand packages better lately, but I've came upon something that it is confusing me.

I've been told that it is common for backport packages to not be updated as same as main packages, even if backports are versions above.

My question is, how can I follow the changelogs of a package to check when it was updated, and compare it with their backport/main version?

>>61475834
Well, shitty if you believe gcc extensions are bad, which they aren't.

>>61475871
Its shitty that its exclusive to gcc.
The kernel should be able to be built with any compiler,not just gcc.

>>61475891
Which ones CLang?

>>61475891
You say that, but it isn't true and also doesn't matter.

>inb4 gaming
I don't feel like running different distros on different machines. And I have Debian on my laptop. I heard Ubuntu makes it easy on drivers and thus easier to game. Is this true?

>>61475913
Clang or icc or any other compiler that comes down the line.Why is it allowed to only be compiled with gcc? Literally nothing else in the Linux environment is like this.There are forks and new competitors

>>61475935
It is true.There are gcc extensions that prevent other compilers from compiling the kernel.During the kernels upbringing they were just thrown in and no now cared because at the time it was the only userland avalible.But now 30 years later,there are other userlands which should be able to build the kernel for their own needs.

>>61475983
That's like saying C# is bad because it won't compile with a C++ kernel.

Do you understand how hypocritical it is to shun extensions because they won't work on a compiler that doesn't support them?

Its moronic.

 Bash 4.3.48 

why the fuck does

 for i in [file pattern]; do ... 

still perform one iteration even when there is no match???

>>61475511

>>61476019
Can you show me a C# or C++ kernel that produces Linux? No? Oh you cant? Your analogy is fruitless

The kernel should not be limited to just gcc.Its hypocritical that the entire Linux environment is about openess,but when it comes to the kernel,nope just one option.

Its idiotic

>>61475983
>There are gcc extensions that prevent other compilers from compiling the kernel.
Bullshit.
It's not the extensions themselves, it's the code relying on them.

I'm trying to do a new installation of Arch, I created my useraccount with useradd -m -s /bin/fish usernamehere

then I did passwd usernamehere

I still don't have a DE installed, but when i try to login from any tty, it says wrong login.
when I do su usernamehere as root, I can login fine.

What the fuck is going on?

>>61475983
>icc or any other compiler that comes down the line
Those are free?

>>61476071
So if the code relies on the extension,and the extension is only with gcc.Hmmm i wonder...
Oh right
The extensions are required :^)

>>61476065
I meant slapping C# into a C++ bit of code and a purely hypothetical example of an "extension" that wouldn't be compatible with a C++ compiler.

Being incompatible isn't a bad thing, you don't actually have an argument beyond it doesn't work so its bad, when it actually does work, with gcc, which it was written for.

>>61476086
Which is the fault of the kernel code, not GCCs.

go and file a bug report upstream, no one will care though.

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>>61476101
>>61476113
Freetards suffering from cognitive dissonance.
Typical

>>61476086
Not him, but I don't care about the extensions I care that Linus chooses to rely on them. I should be able to compile linux with any C compiler of my choice.

>>61476032
what

>>61476136
>with any C compiler of my choice
No. Only on free ones. We don't care about non free compilers.

New to ricing, where would people install their DEs? /usr/local?

>>61476172
$HOME/local

>>61476172
With there package manager to /usr/bin/

>>61476136
You're free to fix the code to do the computing how you want it to be, or in this case, allows the code to be compiled with your compiler of choice.

>>61476172
/dev/null

>>61476136
Using new kernel features that take advantage of newer technology is a good thing.

Development on gcc is just better so it takes precedence and developers will prefer its extensions.

If you want CLANG to compete then make it better.

>>61476207
Nice.

>>61476207
>you're free
BAAAAHAHHAH typical freetard response.
I bet you cant even make a bash script

>>61476207
It would take a complete rewrite of the kernel to fix this

>>61476236
Which is the reason why no one wants to do it just to make it possible to compile it with some other compiler

>>61476288
Except clang/llvm is,and it will be faster

>>61476288
You're not free if you're a slave to one compiler

>>61476219
supporting inline functions in c is not new technology or in any way better than what all other compilers do.

>>61476308
It really has shitty offers as compared to the phone number that you don't know if the KS8000 is worth it. Had to add MOUSE_BTN8 add volume 10 MOUSE_BTN7 add volume -10 to get to the phone number that you used to register with. The aim of this project is to write a loop that checks them against each other.

>>61476172
Similar question
When I install stuff I just go into root and install it there. Is this a bad practice? Do programs go to their appropriate places automatically like windows?

>>61476306
When clang/llvm can compile the linux kernel, can I use the plan 9 C compiler if I wanted to?

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>>61476337
The expression “the Linux kernel” can easily be misunderstood as meaning “the kernel of Linux” and implying that Linux must be more than a kernel. You can avoid the possibility of this misunderstanding by saying or writing “the kernel, Linux” or “Linux, the kernel”.

>>61476337
If plan 9 goes in and sorts out the extensions,yes

>>61476308
Write your own compiler

>>61476416
Typical excuse from freetards

>>61475975
do you actually think Ubuntu is the biggest distro purely because it looks nice? they have got everything right, including vidya + drivers, that's why most sane people who value their time have flocked to it

>>61476423
Can't handle the freedom?

>>61476431
You mean being locked down to the 4 commandments and having to constantly be hypocritical in your daily life?

Nah man

>>61476443
So what's gonna be the bottleneck for the external harddrive? I tried Python for a dual core. Good career choice though I make 80K on 3 years experience and laugh at the odroid c2, it still uses USB 2.0, so wouldn't that be the next big breakout social media?

>>61476431
A true slave always convinces themselves they're free, even with overwhelming evidence you're not.

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Just made this Linux wallpaper. Do you like it?

>>61476547
Linux is more anarchism than communism.

>>61476564
capitalism*

>>61476547
If you change it to C/GNU/Linux, then yes.

Stop using google chrome.

>>61476547
looks ok, but sadly it just helps the gnu/linux is communism meme going

>>61476547
no because you dungoofed your joke. it should have been gnu no linux
>it's not communist but whatever

>>61476638
I actually just tried making a good vignette in GIMP with a random troll pic I found using a search engine which respects my freedoms. ;_;

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>>61476669
>>61476547
now make a gnu one

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What are some cool terminal commands?

>>61476747
you will be the first to hang

>>61476747
systemctl

Currently Junior SysAdmin with 1 year experience. I got an DevOps Engineer and R&D Engineer (datastorage, NAS, SAN, testing new solutions for company working on their DS software) offer. Is DevOps better pick (Chef)?

>>61476779
how much are they paying?

>>61475845
Bumpo

>>61476747

watch -t -n 1 'figlet "$(date +%T)" | cowsay -n'

>>61476832
I'm in eastern europe working for bowl of rice. 12% more in R&D but DevOps has better social benefits, courses and prospects for raise. I don't have experience outside previous work so I will have hard start.

>>61476916
how much in euros? go for the money, but also for prospects. right now, devops and security are the places to be. dunno about r&d, most of us here are codemonkeys. r&d is for serious fuckheads who know their shit. if you're posting on /g/ you're probably not good enough tbfh.

Getting this error when im trying to mount a usb drive.

mount: unknown filesystem type 'vfat'

I just rebooted so it isnt that.
It is listed as W95 FAT32 with fdisk.I can create vfat filesystems with mkfs.vfat,but it wont mount them. Is there a module i am missing?
msdos,vfat,and ntfs are hard enabled in the kernel.
What am i missing?

>>61470432
>I want a quick and easy (yet minimal) distro
do you not see the fucking paradox here? the only way a distro can be minimal and "just work" is if it's made SPECIFICALLY for your fucking laptop.

>>61476989
Where did you get your kernel?

>>61477050
Made it my self

>>61477058
You miss the vfat module.

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>>61477063
I didnt

>>61476985
1200 vs 1350 per month (around country's average pay). I'm leaning towards DevOps mainly for future prospects (earning 2-3 times more in 3-5 years)

>>61477095
What currency is this cause thats way low in usd

>>61477085
Strange.

>>61477085
You're sure that you're using the correct kernel?

>>61477146
Yes,uname shows the proper kernel flag for this kernel

>>61477163
COuld you retry it and paste dmesg?

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I'm switching to openSUSE.
Leap or Tumbleweed and why?

>>61476032
what's the pattern you're using?
AFAIK

for i in *

will use files but

for f in a b c; do echo $f; done

will print a b c

>>61475845
Last time I will bump, I don't want to disturb any one. Thanks mates.

is learning BASH important if you want to be comfortable at the command line?

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>>61476072
pls help

>>61477952
Why are you asking?
Just fucking boot the liveusb and then chroot and passwd
Boom done
time wasted 0

I have a Dell D430 with a failing hard drive, can I :

1. run a GNU/Linux distro entirely from RAM (it has 1.5GB) as a lightweight server?

2. run a GNU/Linux distro from a USB drive which would stay plugged in and function as a hard drive?

(are both of these possible? which one would be better?)

>>61477999
I literally done that, I can login fine as root.
But the second user I created won't accept any password I throw at it.
And yes I tried passwd multiple times.

>>61478020
Yes
Yes

>>61478034
Are you chrooting?
Type the commands you are doing as if you just booted and are at the liveusb screen

>>61478036
Thanks. What would you recommend? Alpine? I heard it's very lightweight.

>>61478058
yes I did arch-chroot when I installed etc.
Will try again now.

>>61478071
Puppy or alpine would do well

>>61477938
yes

Anyone have created their own pluggins / applet / extension for a DE like xfce or gnome ? I'm currently using xfce because I prefer it over others DE, but I miss the sound applet/ pluggins that permitted to launch a music player, play/pause a sound, etc. and was thinking about creating something equivalent for xfce.

Would it be actually feasible ? Anyone experienced that ?

>>61478092
>permitted to launch a music player,
What exactly?
Cause you can use programs to do exactly this

>>61478092
>>61478116
pic related. Ubuntu have approximatively the same shit.
I remember cinnamon having one with more features, you had
>player
you click and there's a list of your music players (rhythmbox and vlc for example)
>currently player
Title - song and picture of the album of the current song played
>music control
you had all the music controls a music player need.

Unique reason to actually launch your music player in was to select a specific song or playlist so mine was always in background.

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>>61478207
with the pic

>>61478078
>>61478058
well wtf, doing passwd from chroot worked, but passwd from actually booting and logging in as root didn't.
Very weird shit.

>>61478373
>doing passwd from chroot worked
Of fucking course it did retared.Do you not understand the concept of a chroot or what it even does when you type the command?

>>61478406
Yeah but nigger, I could login as root fine. Why was chroot even needed.

>>61478420
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/change_root

>>61478420
Maybe it was just a coincidence, perhaps a problem with character encoding between creating the user and trying to login?

I also don't think chroot vs. root should matter in this case.

>>61478483
He was changing the password for the user in the liveusb instead of chrooting in to the install and passwd'ing the user be created

>>61478522
Oh. That makes much more sense if it is indeed the case. Somehow I got the idea that he would've been further ahead in the installation process.

>>61470474
>no dual-band radios
lolno
>>61470466
enable non-free repos and install firmware-iwlwifi

I want to learn Debian, never tried it before.
Doubtful if I should get Debian or Devuan. I'm not convinced on the whole systemd is compromised meme, because I haven't read any convincing argument yet.
So, besides, that... is there any other advantage, in terms of usage, to going systemd-free?
Also, would I be able to just install devian packages right into Devuan if I go with that, or no?

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I'm trying to dual-boot Mint 18 on my desktop, and using this USB WiFi adapter:
https://www.amazon.com/BrosTrend-600Mbps-Adapter-Wireless-WNA016/dp/B0118SPFCK/
which has god-awful Linux driver support.

After days of troubleshooting, I've finally gotten to the point where the drivers are working enough for Network Manager to show me nearby wireless networks, and ask for the WPA key when I select one. But then it just thinks for a minute and "activation of network connection failed".

Also, every time I reboot, the wireless option simply shows up as "unmanaged" until I restart NW.

Is there something obvious that I'm doing wrong here? At least I got the nitty gritty of the drivers to work, the system recognizes the dongle & everything, I think it's just a problem with Network Manager but who knows, I'm just a noob

>>61478921
https://ewontfix.com/14/

>>61479286
Wpa_supplicant should be printing to syslog, if not you can run it directly and see what it says.

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i've always known Debian to be the distro of choice for lesbians.

However, only now do I realise that the only real reason for this, is the similarity of the words "Debian" and "lesbian".

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>see cool rice setups
>install i3-gaps and various other programs to make things look pretty
>steal config files for like an hour or two
>even after all this, it just feels like a waste of fucking time
How do people do this for fun? Like it just straight feels like I wasted so much time I could've spent actually doing something. Desktop looks alright I suppose but I still need some more programs any old DE could provide. Serious question to the ricers, how do you not feel worthless after this?

>>61480992
At least after ricing you have something to show for it, and now that the setup is just like you want it to be you can start reaping the benefits. Perhaps the skills you acquired come in handy one day. Some might find the process of ricing more important than the end goal, which for some might even be unreachable. All of life is a waste of time anyways.

I'm using plain i3wm.

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I am using gimp a lot recently and noticed that I can't use Alt + Mouse to drag paths and selections or do any other stuff, because that is assigned to grabbing and moving windows in Linux (Unity Ubuntu 16.04). I looked into the shortcuts and all I could find is "Move Window: Alt+F7" and disabling that does not disable Alt+Mouse
Can anyone help how I can disable that?

>>61480782
The combination of the two creators names
Debra and Ian
Debian
How ever,there is a distro called debian for lesbians

How often does Arch updates mess with peoples files? I want to go ahead and install, but really don't want to go through the hassle when my system updates work against me

retard question,

how do I change the size of desktop icons in lxde?

>>61481265
Installed my Arch setup eight months ago. Never had a single problem

>>61481273
nevermind got it.

>>61481265
>mess with peoples file
Arch does a hash check,if anything is being changed it will rename it ".pacnew" or ".pacsave".
Pacsave is the settings you've changed.Pacnew is the new config files.It varies on how important the changes are to the file,such as new default configs,it will save your settings to .pacsave instead of overwriting them.

>>61481265
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman/Pacnew_and_Pacsave

There's usually no need for manual intervention and if there is, it's announced on the homepage and the mailing list. It's still a good idea to semi-regularly merge your old configs and the .pacnew files, but the differences are usually very limited making it really easy.

If you're talking about your personal files or home folder, of course it wont mess with that.

>>61480992
>>61480992

it shows the other people ( who are wannabe developers - enthusiast with no actual skill or programming knowledge themselves, or just new users ) that they know how to edit various config files.

I just like to keep things neet and lightweight without the whole thing looking like your typical '' muh terminals and animus and leet 1970s wood grain console arch look''

Also some people just fucking love skins and themes in any shape or form ( in any distro, program or game unrelated to this)

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So, a month ago I finished reading pic related for the Linux+/LPIC-1 after slowly trudging through it over the past 1.5 years in my downtime at work (credit card machine tech support)

I feel like I've only retained bits and pieces from the long period of time it took to get through all of the chapters, as I was able to get the A+/Net+ both in a matter of 2 months.

How best should I refine my knowledge for the exam and, more importantly, the general knowhow that I would need to be effective in a position of admin somewhere?

What I'm currently using is the end of chapter exams/end of book test exam and an old laptop with opensuse on it. Thanks in advance for any advice you can provide.

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Installing Linux through Architect and it brings up installation types. Stable, and Developer. No matter what I choose the installation says its complete only giving me the option to reboot, shutdown, and lunch a virtual environment which is just a terminal.

What could be the deal?

>>61481572
Download the pre tests and take them and see where you fail at.Then go do those things.

>>61481743
Dont use shitty installers when the default setup is less then 10 commands

>>61481771

Got it. The end of book exam also helped filter which sections Im the weakest in.

>>61481091
https://askubuntu.com/questions/118151/how-do-i-disable-window-move-with-alt-left-mouse-button-in-gnome-shell
This is all I could find and it is for gnome which should work with gimp. But I am pretty sure it is an X11 feature so there must be a toolkit independant way of setting it too.

>>61478921
>Also, would I be able to just install devian packages right into Devuan if I go with that, or no?
Yes.

>>61478921
>Also, would I be able to just install devian packages right into Devuan if I go with that, or no?
Maybe.

New thread:

>>61482147
>>61482147
>>61482147

>>61471224
https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-iwlwifi
^theres the driver, install that after download and you'll be gold.