/hpg/ - Headphone General

>Budget
$50
>Location
India
>Source
PC, Android Tablet, iPhone 7
>Type of headphone
Over the ear
>Open or closed
Closed with ANC (ANC optional)
>Comfort level
High, expect to be using them for long periods
>Sound signature
Neutral with a touch of bass
>Past headphones
None
>Anything else
Looking for cans that I can use unplugged and with cable when the battery dies out. I'd really appreciate not having to pause my music if I need to stretch or move around every now and then. Like I stated above, ANC is optional, but bluetooth is a must because muh iPhone.

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>Budget
Less than $1000 preferably
>Location
UK
>Source
Motherboard audio (not joking)
>Type of headphone
Over ears
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
I wear them like 8 hours a day so pretty high
>Sound signature
Whatever a HD650 or HD800 sounds like
>Past headphones
HD650 (love), HD800 (love), HD700 (shit)
>Anything else
I like Snapheisers but I can't be dealing with open headphones anymore, need a closed alternative.

>>61453503
>no anime
wtf?

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>2017
>Using Sennheiser HD 600

>>61453700
>cable cannot be removed
KEK

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>>61453503
Idol trash here,
What's your setup like, Anon?

what <$1k open circumaural headphone is best in terms of comfort and build quality?

>>61453978
I ask this because I am Shiva, destroyer of headphones. So far I've ruined 3 Sennheisers, 2 JVC, 2 Sony and a pair of Koss.

>>61453700
>>2017
>>still memeing beyersremorse

yea sure..

>>61453978
Comfort: HD800
Build: Elear

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How do these Sennheiser HD414s compare to Koss PortaPro / KSC75s? Just wondering if hpg tried the rare 414s.

Best USB powered dac/amp for portable and desktop use?

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What's the second best headphone behind the Beyerdynamic T1?

>>61453684
p-pls respond

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>>61454658
The Beyerdynamic T1 doesn't even cost $50,000
https://youtu.be/2PdUODjLvJk?t=14s

>>61453684
DT 1770 Pro or k872 are the best options for high end closed back headphones if you're adamant about not using a dac/amp

>>61454658
>second best behind some beyer
False premise.

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>>61453503

I get stressed out just looking at all that gear and cabling for minimal unnoticeable gains.

>All this shit talk between babydynamic and shitheiser while I enjoy my MDR like a grown up.

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What's the second best headphone behind the Sennheiser HD600?

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>>61454884
>"If sold, they would be priced near $4000."

>>61454794
>DT 1770 Pro
They have a single sided cable though and those piss me off.

>$65000 system
>in a $5000 unconditioned sound-wise room

damn pleb poorfags
you need at the least a $20000 sound functioning room to get proper sound and thats pennypinching

>>61454884
What about the random camera lying inconspicuously on the table

>>61453503
What's the sine wave shit do
Also why does he spend so much on big fat fucking cables and big boxes and then proceeds to pipe it down a lousy small tube amp

>>61455188
>What's the sine wave shit do
Audiophool power conditioner

>and then proceeds to pipe it down a lousy small tube amp
The box behind the laptop is the second part of it

>>61454745
>Tubes
>Audiophile placebo shit

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>>61453982

>>61455818
Electrostatics need a lot more power than what you can get from an opamp.

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>Sennshills listening to +0.2db of treble

>>61455854
>placebo shit
>worse sound
>more distortion
>muh warmth

>>61455942
This is accurate
one time I saw a guy playing drums and he hit those two metal discs together and the next thing I know I was in a hospital with deafening tinnitus

>>61455102
HD580

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>Budget
$200
>Location
UK
>Source
PC, Ipad, Iphone
>Type of headphone
Over the ear
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Planning on getting these for a 12 hour flight so high
>Sound signature
Whatever a Audio-Technica ATH-M40X sounds like
>Past headphones
Audio-Technica ATH-M40X

>>61456187
HD 6xx

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>>61456197

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I wanted to get a pair of bluetooth headphones because I've never had one before. Got a Sony mdr-100ABN. Did I do any good? So far I don't really have complaints except for quite a bit of sound leakage and how I can hear a bit of wind while using NC outside. Didn't encounter any lag so far. Only used it with aptX-supporting devices though. Inb4 somebody says mdr100x, fuck that touch to silence gesture, seems really annoying. Also it literally breaks by itself.

How does the ATH-AD900x compare to the ATH-AD700 from a comfort standpoint?

>>61456233
Go on, suggest something better than HD 6xx for $200

>>61456187
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Beyerdynamic-Custom-One-Plus-Headphone/dp/B00PK2LJ4E/

>>61456378
>closed

>>61456415
>falling for the closed meme

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>>61456421
>misread post
>oh shit gotta cover my ass

>>61456440
>falling for the closed meme

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>>61456461

>>61456480
>falling for the closed meme

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>>61456540
You've earned this

>>61456456
>Compairing ear piercing highs to rape
Rape doesn't hurt that much.

>>61456557
>falling for the closed meme

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>>61456393
This looks pretty good, thanks anon

>>61456197
Little out of my price range. Seems pretty good if I ever get the money tho

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>>61456576
>falling for the Beyerdynamics meme

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>>61456589
Are you the resident funposter?

>>61456610
Maybe. I've been called a Beyershill and a Sennshill at the same time in the past.

>>61453555
Here you go senpai https://www.amazon.co.uk/POO-Over-Ear-Headphones-Assorted-Colors-Blue/dp/B015V663AI

>>61453555
Some anon please help.
RRREEEEEEEE

>>61456653
>literally called POO
Which is muddier, shitheisers or these?

>>61453503
i need some guidance i own a pair of ath-m50x and love them but i want to try something new, something more dynamic and rich with out it costing me and arm and leg. a friend mentioned the grado headphones. dose /g/ have any better suggestions?

>>61456720
use the template you dumb fuck

>>61456683

>>61456715
>>61456653
Not this shit again please. Anon-kun, how could you do this to your own senpai?

>>61453503
>Budget :200$ max
>Location : usa
>Source ipod video 5.5 with the wolfson dac/rockbox/ a fiio a3 mini amp
>Type of headphone: full
>Open or closed:either
>Comfort level: pretty comfy something that wont hurt to wear for awhile
>Sound signature Netural but i wanted to try something new
>Past headphones: ath mo50x, koss porta pros and kc06a IEM

>>61456815
Try these
ipipoo.com

>>61456836
Beyer Custom One Studio/DT 770 Pro for V shaped closed

DT 990 for v shaped open + extra bright

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>listening to youtube mp3 rips of linkin park on my HD800's plugged into onboard audio

>>61456873
>linkin park
>not Bomfunk MC's
I'm having an eargasm from the early 2000's MP3 hiss and compression artifacts.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymNFyxvIdaM
This is how music is meant to be listened too.

Fiio e17k gud?

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some time ago some dudes discussed here about 20 bucks in ear headphones which should be really good.
Which are the best I can get for cheap? Should be below 50 bucks. If below 30 thats a ++.
I dont need no good, just comfy for portable use

>>61457005
Panasonic Ergoshit RP-HJE125 or whatever they are called are top tier for the pennies they cost.

>>61457005
>>/g/csg
If the memes are to be believed your best options for <$30 earphones would be a KZ chi-fi IEM type thing

>>61457005
https://www.amazon.com/Etymotic-Research-ETY-Kids5-Safe-Listening-Earphones/dp/B005TOV0OM

>>61457038
Thanks. I'll just try them.
I guess it doesnt even matter much, but was worth a question kek
>>61457065
good meme

>>61455961

>he doesn't know the voltage requirements for electrostats make tubes a compelling option

>>61456873
you guys agree that youtube/128kbps mp3 fucking sucks, right? it might depend on the music genre but yeah.

is the general opinion here that 320kbps mp3 is sufficient? (assuming it was ripped correctly from a CD or w/e and not resampled from 128kbps or some bullshit)

>>61456868
thoses look nice! say i wanted to spend less like 100/150 what would be recommended

>>61453503
I got some speaker monitors for free. If I listen to music on them will they be better or worse that the terrible 20$'s at a yard sale speakers I allready have?

>>61457136
sorry. STUDIO monitors.

>>61457104
I have the beyerdynamic dt770 and audio technica ath-m50x both cost kinda the same and both are fuckin great in my opinion.
I like the audio technica a little bit more, but they are both really good. If you have a store close to you, then just prelisten them.

PS: I am no audiophile fag and am a fuckin pleb.

>>61457104
>>61457163
though the audio technica sit a lil bit tighter. You gotta like that.
If you hate that then the dt770 or something else would be your choice

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>>61457163
>DT770

>>61457136
better probably. might take some getting used to though

>>61456836
HD579 or SHP9500
>>61456868
>DT770, DT990
These are terrible headphones.

>>61457187
>>61457163
would my A3 dac be enough to power them to there full with out fear of blowing?
A friend of mine is telling me that buying the 250 Ohm version is just wasting power and i could blow them

>>61456720
Grados like the SR80 are cheap, don't need an amp but have a very coloured, warm, V shaped, punchy sound signature with great mid presentation and an immediate soundstage.
They're very subject to your taste in sound signature; most people eithe love them or hate them. If you're looking for something more exciting they're worth looking into.

>>61457429
Grados are uncomfortable and there's no reason to buy the SR80 over the SR60.

Complete retard here, I want to upgrade from my shitty gayman headset to an actual pair of headphones, looking at the ATH AD700x because muh games, but also the AKG K612 Pro, Sennheiser HD558 and Beyerdynamic DT990s. I do also play guitar and have a usb audio interface (focusrite scarlett) because of that, but I only use it for my guitar atm.

Would it be a safe assumption to make that the audio quality out of the audio interface would be better than whats on board on my pc? I'm currently thinking that I could pick up a decent xlr mic and just use the interface as my sound card?

Do you guys think this would work ok or would I get better bang for my buck if I bought a dac/amp combo and ran the headphones through that and just used a usb mic for example?

Also considering I'm prioritising open back cans with great soundstages, what do you think of the choices I've been looking at thus far? Haven't bought anything yet so still very much open to suggestions.

>>61456589
Satania a cute. A cute!!

>>61457211
>literally treble rape

>>61457429
>>61457187
alright thank you ill look more into the DT770 pros

>>61457371
You'll be deaf before they blow up. You're fine.

>>61457607
DT770 are shit m8. The treble sounds extremely harsh and will cause listening fatigue quickly. If you must buy Beyerdynamic get Custom Studios or DT250 80 ohm instead, as they lack treble rape.

>>61457545
The AKG K612 Pro is the best of your list but you'll need a substancial amp. The focusrite scarlett 2i2 headphone amp is weak as far as amps go.

>>61457545
K612 if you're willing to buy a DAC and a Magni 2, HD579 if you are not. Avoid the absolutely terrible DT990.

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So is multibit a real deal or a meme?

>>61457782
It might be technically better but it isn't audibly better.

>>61457702
Cheers for the info, it's actually a 2i4 but I'm actually pretty sure the headphone amp on it would be the same for all models so your point still stands.
>>61457744
Cool, would the modi2 and magni 2 combo be the most cost effective way of powering the k612? I'm not against the idea of getting a dac and amp, but I'd prefer not to spend hundreds of euroshekels if I can help it. Is the K612 better than the ATH AD700X? I know it has a reputation for being extremely easy to drive and really great for fps games.

>>61458092
Magni 2 + https://hifimediy.com/sabre-dac-uae23 would be most cost effective way of driving K612. Use a 3.5mm stereo to RCA male adapter to connect them.
AD700X has no bass. K612 is significantly better, as is HD579.

>>61457782
>So is multibit a real deal or a meme?
tl;dr It's nothing you need to concern yourself over.

>>61457790
"Multibit" isn't at all better. Presents many disadvantages for no tangible benefit.

>>61458309
Cheers, yeah I've heard that the ad700x is light on bass, desu I'm not a bass head but I probably wouldn't want it to be as light as the 700x seemingly is.

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>>61457782
I would get something with discrete resistor ladder instead of a half-baked solution like that.

http://www.soekris.dk/dac1101.html

https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/do-objective-headphone-measurements-correlate-to-the-audiophiles-subjective-experience.614631/
>Hopefully it should be rather clear by now that headphones with less high frequency anomalies and cleaner waterfall plots tend to sound better to most people.
>high frequency anomalies
Beyerdynamics confirmed for sounding like shit to most people.

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>>61458092
AD700X is good for FPS' like CS because the bass is very light/recessed so it doesn't mask little details and it's bright. If you want headphones strictly for competitive gaming, AD Series is worth looking into. Pic related is Hazed standing in for Optic at IEM Sydney.

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>>61458382
>Beyer T1
>Average Rating: 4.00 (1 = good, 5 = bad)
>I've heard several and they were all warm, bright, and metallic. All at the same time. Kinda like when my Dremel's cut off wheel shoots a stream of aluminum particles in my face.

>>61457545
Consider SHP9500S + V-Moda BoomPro if you'd like an attached mic. SHP9500S are just about as good as the K612 for a lot less and don't need an amp.

>>61453700
>>61455000
>>61455850

I'll just put this out there. I haven't tried any of those two and all of the text seems like childish silliness except

> non-detachable cable

because that's just a deal-breaker. And not just for headphones either. If replacing a cable requires soldering then I'm not going anywhere near it.

>>61457091
>youtube/128kbps mp3 fucking sucks
Yes, there is no point in listening to youtube music that's more than 5 years old - specially considering that they are serving that originally 128kbps mp3 as AAC so it's a lossy re-encode of a shitty lossy rip. 320kbps is fine if you can't get it in FLAC but it better be really good music if I'm going to save it. It's not 1990 where lossless music files takes any measurable space anyway.

>>61458452
I've heard good things about those Philips, but can they really be a match for headphones that much more expensive? I've tried the Superlux 668B which are supposed to be great sounding cans in a cheap package, but I wasn't really impressed by them at all. Though I know that doesn't mean that all cheap cans are crappy.

>Budget
€200
>Location
the Netherlands
(tweakers.net for comparison)
Could also order from amazon germany though if prices are better
>Source
Desktop PC, Thinkpad, iPhone 6s, Android tablet
>Type of headphone
Over the ear
>Open or closed
Either of them
>comfort level
A balance between comfort and sound quality would be nice
>Sound signature
Neutral
>Past headphones
Steelseries prism v3
Fell for the >gaymen meme two years ago.
Would like headphones that don't fall apart after 6 months of use.
And want sound quality that's better than your average $100 gaymen headset

>>61458597
>but can they really be a match for headphones that much more expensive?
Sure they can:
http://asa.scitation.org/doi/full/10.1121/1.4984044
>No correlation between headphone frequency response and retail price
>The results indicate that neither the measured response nor an attempt to objectively quantify perceived quality is related to price.

>>61458633
SHP9500S, HD579

>>61458597
$15 Koss KSC75 are better sounding headphones than $2,600 Ultrasone Edition 10.

>>61458673
Thank you for the article, I will read that and hopefully learn something. You'd recommend the SHP9500S for gaming? Are there any headphones you'd take over the Philips?

>>61457091
I get my music in FLAC just so I know it's not some three times recompressed 128kb/s mp3 and then compress it to roughly 256 kb/s ogg vorbis because even that is beyond my ability to hear any difference, but only when disk space is an issue

>>61458733
>You'd recommend the SHP9500S for gaming?
Yes, especially since they can take a BoomPro.
>Are there any headphones you'd take over the Philips?
The Philips are by far the best bang/buck ratio in headphones right now. I can't think of anything else that can take a BoomPro in your price range I'd prefer.

>>61458733
Different anon, 558's are better for music since the bass doesn't roll off as hard or as early as the SHP9500. Sone people describe the SHP9500 treble as somewhat bright and grainy.

>>61457304
>If you dislike a suggestion, explain why and try giving a better suggestion to whomever asked.

>>61458759
I'll definitely have a good look at them, I had completely forgot they existed desu, thanks for the heads up.
>>61458793
I have been looking at them also, apparently they're almost identical to the 598 but cheaper, haven't tested that myself though.

>>61458382
let me guess, he's from sbaf where they praise sennheiser and shit on beyer

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>>61458840
>where they praise sennheiser and shit on beyer
This is an accurate description of the internet in general.

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>>61458875
>posting the edited version

>>61458887
Your immaturity reflects poorly on Beyerdynamic: http://www.strawpoll.me/10478477/r

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>>61458907

>>61458840
Purrin is Malvin, the number one HD650 circlejerker. He might have had a good idea with that "study," but you're giving headphones to audiophools who clearly recognize what they are about to listen to, have their predetermined opinions and believe that plugging their headphones into a different amp really opens up the soundstage. Not to mention that if you put on a bright headphone and then a warm headphone, the contrast will make you recoil. Interesting, but in the end it's no more valuable than saying "my friends like this headphone more."

>>61457304
>These are terrible headphones.
Why? I have 990 PRO and they are great.

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>>61458929
>I have 990 PRO and they are great.

You're right, objective measurements prove this as well.

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>>61458937
>rtings

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How do DT 1770 Pro compare to a HD650?

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my headphones are see through

>>61458929
They're probably not that bad.
That anon here >>61457304 is probably a "Muh neutrality is patrician and they don't know they love neutral yet" fag.

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>>61458950
>typical_sennheiser_owners_on_hpg.jpg

>>61458967
What are you talking about? They are not bad at all.

>>61458929
https://www.head-fi.org/f/threads/beyerdynamic-dt990-250ohm-should-come-with-warning-label.853750/
I'm sorry they've already damaged your hearing so much that you can no longer hear that they have about 10 dB too much treble response.

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>>61458953
>DT1770
Holy shit these are terrible, even for Beyerdynamic, which is saying a lot.

>>61458995
>have to shitpost on headfi to try and back up your opinion

the absolute state of sennshills

>>61458995
I own HD650 too. They both are great toys. If you want normal sound get yourself something like LSR305. Sorry.

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>Beyerposters
>Can accept the fact that people like different sound signatures
>Able to have an intelligent conversation about headphones

>Sennposters
>Unable to accept the fact that people like different sound signatures
>Unable to have an intelligent conversation about headphones

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>>61459012
>giant fucking 200 Hz dip: the headphone

>>61458929
How new are you? This is Sennheiser territory. If you don't seek the most neutral headphones ever (read: no treble), you're not allowed to exist. Ultimately, it's all shitposting. You can ask for nigger bass V-shaped headphones and some sperg will still recommend you to get HD600 instead.

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>giant fucking 200 Hz dip and typical Mt. Beyer treble dildo: the headphone
Yeah, I'd avoid these.

>>61459024
>says others are unable to have an intelligent conversation while spewing ad hominem and strawman

>>61459012
Can anyone point me in the direction of an article that explains how to read these graphs?

>>61459048
>no compensation curve

>>61459063
https://wiki.installgentoo.com/index.php?title=Headphones#Frequency_response_charts
Short version: they're supposed to be a flat line unless they're raw responses, although a flat line will sound bright on some websites, will sound perfect on some websites and will sound dark on some websites, since different websites have different opinions as to what a headphone should sound like.

>>61459081
The point is that three separate measurements all showed an absolutely enormous 200 Hz dip. I cannot recommend those headphones based on this.

>>61459104
Cheers dude

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>>61459063
>>61459104
This is what a graph of a good sounding headphone looks like.

>budget
200€ max
>location
Czech Republic
>Source
Desktop,phone
>type
Full sized and closed
>comfort level
Comfy enough for use over long periods of time.
>sound signature
V-shaped or neutral or bassy
>past headphones
Steel series Siberia v2
These were pretty comfy, they fit me perfectly. One thing I didn't like was the big massive head band or whatever you call it because it stuck out, would like something that doesn't stick out like a sore thumb and wouldn't look too bad in public

>>61459153
>good
>no bass
>has a treble spike

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>>61459153
>>61459104
>>61459063
And this is what a graph of a poor sounding headphone looks like.

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>>61459159
>no bass
Go away, Snapheiser troll. You ruin every goddamn thread with your shitposting.

>>61459188

He really does. Last weekend we had almost an entire thread without him and it was completely shitposting-free until he showed up about 270 posts in. It was amazing.

>>61459188
its sad that hpg has to make images like this because one troll repeatedly posts the same lies in every thread

>>61459188
>>61459229
>>61459306
samefag

N O
B A S S

>>61459344
What does have bass?

>>61459357
Beats

>>61459153
not trying to bait but doesn't it lack bass?

>>61459188
>you can discuss any headphones in /hpg/, but they have to be Sennheisers

THE ABSOLUTE S T A T E OF SENNSHILLS

>>61459306
It's sad that resident sennheiser shills cannot respect that not everyone likes the sound signature of their headphones and that those people aren't literally hitler, because that inspires the shitposter

>>61459404
30 Hz response equal with 1 kHz is not lacking bass.
>but the target line
Ignore it. The bass boost on that line is arbitrarily defined and representative of niggerbass. A flat line from 20 Hz to 2,000 Hz on that graph represents the sound of accurate speakers in a diffuse field, so a flat line on that graph represents accurate bass whereas a line matching the green line on that graph represents niggerbass.

>>61459475
>has to resort to using racism to try and make a point

Just give up.

http://www.4chan.org/rules#global3
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/: Trolls, flames, racism, off-topic replies, uncalled for catchphrases, macro image replies, indecipherable text (example: "lol u tk him 2da bar|?"), anthropomorphic ("furry") or grotesque ("guro") images, post number GETs ("dubs"), or loli/shota pornography.

>>61459475
but how accurate is it really if practically every audio source under the sun has been mastered according to the "niggerbass" target line

>>61459529
That is incorrect. Studio set ups demonstrate significant variation in room characteristic, as demonstrated by Genelec [1][2].
>[1] A.V. Mäkivirta and C. Anet, A Survey Study of Today’s Monitoring Conditions
Copy here:
https://www.genelec.com/documents/publications/SurveyofMonitoringConditions.pdf
>[2] A.V. Mäkivirta and C. Anet, A Survey Study Of In-Situ Stereo And Multi-Channel Monitoring Conditions
The more detailed AES version of the first paper.

>>61459156
Custom Studio or Custom one pro

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>>61459156
AKG K550 and the ATH M50x are at the 5k Kč line, Beyer Custom Studio or DT770 around or under 4k Kč. The M50x is probably the bassiest, DT770 is more V-shaped with stronger treble presence.
It's hard to find any measurements of the Siberias but I guess they were fairly V-shaped too. I'll let you be the judge of the designs.

>>61459552
POO IN PUBLICATION

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What closed or semi-closed headphones should I replace my HD800 with?

>>61459973
You can't, the HD800 is the best headphone in the world.

>>61459973
EMU Teak/TH-X00

>>61459566
Thanks for your input
>>61459804
I might just end up going for the m50x, they seem alright to me. And seems to be what everyone else recommends as well, thanks

>>61460069
I like how they sound but I can't deal with them waking up people in other rooms.

>>61460119
Meme or no meme?

>>61460199
Depends on whether you think it's a meme or not. They're legit semi-closed. Depends of you want something more bassy and lesa fatiguing than 800's at the expense of soundstage.

>>61460199
Oppo PM3
>his music is so loud he wakes people up in other rooms
The problem isn't the headphones, lad.

>>61460290
They leak sound like shit, if I put them on my desk at half listening volume, close my door, I can hear them plain as day.

>>61460199
>I can't deal with them waking up people in other rooms.
You must have almost as much hearing loss as Beyerdynamic owners by now.

>>61460199
>I can't deal with them waking up people in other rooms
EL8 Closed back, literally no leak at all.

>>61458957
They also kill you if you start sweating. How does it feel to own perfect headphones?

>>61460303
Etymotic ER4S

>>61460604
Feels good man, I got the Mk1. I did it all for chiru.no

What are my options for electrostatics under $800 that can be powered by an O2?

>>61460845
Stax L300

>>61460923
t. zeos

>>61460607
No SR/XR?

Why do so many headphones talk so much about their bass?

>>61461559
>Etymotic ER4SR
Yeah, that's the one I was supposed to mention. XR is the melanin enhanced version.

>>61461582
All normies care about with regards to audio is if it "has good bass."

>>61461582
Because too many ""neutral"" headphones completely lack bass, because consumers like it, and because it is the easiest way how to measure sound - the amount of oomph it has and how deep it goes.

So assuming I have cash money like a str8 baller (I am LUL, get rekt poorfags), are the Stax SR-L700 the best thing I can get?

>>61461834
Sennheiser HE 1

>>61461889
Don't meme, I saw the Z Reviews video.

>>61461897
>trusting a fat fuck

>>61461910
>not trusting an autismo5000's area of obsession

>>61461930
I cannot trust his decision making with regards to evaluating headphones because his weight is highly indicative of poor decision making.

>>61461957
I get where you're coming from, senpai, but autismos, of all models, usually choose one area to focus all their autism into.

>>61461957
>likes anime
>fat fuck

How is this literally not /hpg/'s guy?

>>61461834
You're not a Big Baller if you don't have an HE 1. You're a Big Baller, aren't you?

>>61462095
I'm willing to spend $2,000.

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>>61462106
>he's a small baller

>>61462106
Then just get a HD800 and a nice amp then.

>>61462118
>posting smug anime when he doesn't even speak Japanese

あほか

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Even chinks agree that only apes use FLAC!

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Hi Tyll from Innerfidelity here.

I came to a realization. The HD600/650 are objectively bad. They should have never been on my wall of fame to begin with. I was payed so much to keep quite about the snapheisers but i'm finally coming out. Sorry to all my fans who bought into the lie.

I'll be removing them next week from my list. The DT880(600 ohm) and 990's (600 ohm) will take there place.

Thanks for watching and we'll see you guys the next time around.

>>61462166
Dats sum yummy Engrish.

>>61462205
I got some /csg/ IEMs for £9, they came with a whole manual of this as a free bonus.

>>61462198
>payed
paid
>i'm
I'm
>there
their

Why should I take advice from someone so objectively stupid?

>>61462198
based Tyler

>>61462166
As westerners we grow up looking down on chinks for their shitty English, while mistakenly believing it has anything to do with their intelligence

我开始学习中文以后,我才知道了中国人真的很聪明的人

chink r smrt lul

>>61462252
Just playing doubles advocate here but for all intensive purposes mistakes like that are a diamond dozen in this doggy dog world

>>61455102
hd 650

>>61462296
But it does. If you want to do business in an English speaking market, is learning the language not an intelligent first step? Even if you don't have the drive to learn it yourself, there's always the option of hiring someone fluent in the language to proofread anything that goes out. It makes a big difference in perceived quality.

>>61462335
As someone who has been studying Japanese for 8 years and Mandarin Chinese for 1, it doesn't.

If they're Chinese they might not have the money to hire a native speaker.

>>61462296
I don't look down on them, I actually find it very endearing for some reason.

>>61462335
Well >>61462355 has a point; the entire shtick of chinese production is that they reduce costs by any means possible. That doesn't mean they can't deliver quality products in some cases, but the correctness of the marketing buzzword soup on the box of my IEMs makes absolutely no difference to the quality of the sound they will produce. I'm quite happy not paying extra in exchange for a lack of a proofreader.

Also in case anyone is wondering, KZ ZSTs are pretty bright - although I'll try with a different tip, I might get better results. The quality of the mids and treble is amazing though, very close to my HD558s - the lows and soundstage are where they fall short. Overall for $13 I'm quite impressed.

>>61462355
>If they're Chinese they might not have the money to hire a native speaker.
Then they don't have the money to make a serious push into a foreign market.

>>61462431
If their product is good then they do?

Fuck off retard

>>61462301
>Lots of people are stupid, so it's okay if I am too.
Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you: Hitler!

>>61462444
Go fuck your mother, mongoloid. The product isn't going to be taken seriously by the general public if the marketing isn't up to snuff. Some enthusiasts may pick up on it, but that's as far as it's going to go. That is not a serious push into foreign markets.

>>61462449
Hitler did nothing wrong tho?

>>61462469
That has nothing to do with the quality of the product itself. Most Westerners don't know any other ACTUAL foreign language. East Asian languages are very difficult from English. As long as they can communicate what they want to I don't see a problem.

I'm a white boy American that lives in China. Chinese people are on average way more intelligent than the average whitey.

>>61462487
He lost the war.

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>>61459973
Aeon looks interesting, more sub bass, no treble peaks and somewhat smooth minus bass bump into treble dip, they give you foam tho and some says it smoothers that transition more. Also they have nice cups. Otherwise how loud you listen to HD800 to, or are your walls made out of paper?

>>61462355
I had instructions and a special 'key' to set up a bank account in China and instruction for it was LITERALLY google translated. I mean this is not a 10$ pair of headphones, this was some big Chinese bank, and all of them are owned by government anyway. I figured it out in the way, but their website was shit translated as well so I had to switch to Chinese version and retranslate instruction in google back from it's broken english to Chinese.

I mean how cheap can you be not to hire someone to translate you properly a fucking instruction to register a bank account. Or how dumb can you be not to learn a pretty easy language when you depend so much on foreign market to earn money.

>>61462660
You're banking in China and can't even speak their language? Are you stupid?

>>61462574
>Otherwise how loud you listen to HD800 to, or are your walls made out of paper?
Not very, I guess I'm just self conscious about my music tastes. I'm only separated by people with a plasterboard wall and my house is dead silent at night.

Can't even ramp up my PC fans to somewhat drown it out as it's near silent under load anyway.

>>61462301

>doggy dog

>>61462660
>Or how dumb can you be not to learn a pretty easy language
Exactly, so why don't you just learn Chinese quickly and skip all the hassle? :^)

On a more serious note, you do realise that English is almost as hard to chinks as Chinese is for us? Sure, the alphabet and writing system is a lot easier, but the language itself is just as alien and unfamiliar regardless of which way you're going.
Besides, English is a horribly illogical language, full of exceptions and half-rules and shit borrowed from a fuckton of other foreign languages, and as such it's far from the easiest germanic language to learn.

>Budget
~40-50 dollars

>Location
US, Texas

>Source
Computer headphone and mic jack

>Type
Full-sized

>Open or closed
Closed

>Comfort level
This is what I am trying to get the best out of the headphones/headset I am going to buy. The current headset I have + relatively poor posture can lead to neck stiffness and sometimes headaches for me by the end of the day. I was looking for some headphones that are very light and comfortable. I would prefer if they had a microphone that comes with them.

>>61462675
>>61462773
>You're banking in China and can't even speak their language? Are you stupid?
>Exactly, so why don't you just learn Chinese quickly and skip all the hassle? :^)
It's us who give them funds and want to place an order, you can say "well, they will just have another customer next door" but that logic is one of the reasons they can't do anything meaningful besides mindless cheap manufacturing, where all the patents, the technology and skills are in hands of westerns manufacturers and not Chinese. Also unfortunately country that I live in is shit and doesn't have an access to western funds.

>>61462773
>Besides, English is a horribly illogical language, full of exceptions and half-rules and shit borrowed from a fuckton of other foreign languages, and as such it's far from the easiest germanic language to learn.

Lol, English has few rules, very few exceptions and at core is a very basic language, German is much harder. What you describe is partially Russian, fuckton rules, shitloads of exceptions for every singe rule, complex word formation and a lot of words borrowed from German and French. English is piss easy, it doesn't matter how foreign it's to them when it's not complex at all. Moreover, me english speaking you still of understanding, even a broken English can be easily understood, there is not much to break anyway in it's modern form, but the fucks didn't even bother to translate a simple instruction properly. Mind you they could have hired a student from HK and he would do a decent job, how cheap can you be not to do so?

HiFiman is an example, they went cheap and as far as I know if you want to use your warranty in U.S. you send it to one small workshop somewhere and wait month's for your shit to get fixed, besides them dropping assembly quality on their headphones recently.

>>61462985
>What you describe is partially Russian
No it's not. Russian has a good set of rules, but the exceptions are relatively rare and just that - exceptions. Whereas in English a lot of the rules are more like guidelines.

And yes, it is a synthetic language unlike English, and so has more word variations because the words are composed of more morphemes which convey grammatical meaning. That's a natural property of synthetic languages. It's not that hard to grasp.

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Got bit by the headphone/hifi bug about 10 years ago after I got a pair of Senny PX100. After countless years of spending too much cash on the hobby, I sold off everything and proclaim myself an official Beyerdynamic fanboy.

Ones I kinda miss:
Forgot which ones, but had a set of Etys that were pretty cool.
DT770, gave em to my best friend with a creek amp for helping me move, I will get another pair eventually.

Ones I don't Miss:
Senn HD650, good, but not that good and insanely uncomfortable imo.
Ultimate Ears, forgot which pair, but were Logitech era. kinda crappy quality and lackluster for the $$
AKG701... good, but meh, like my Beyers better.

Don't have any listed, but big fan of Koss stuff. Ugly, cheap, and sound great for the buck.

>>61463079
>I have high frequency hearing loss

>>61463079
Where do I subscribe?

>>61463079
>endgaming at DT880
>tubes

Guys I'd like to learn a bit more about headphones so I can make a more informed decision when I upgrade what I've got. Are there any /g/ approved reviewers or publications I can look into?

>>61463127
innerfidelity.com

>>61463127
This is /hpg/
You want a Sennheiser HD600 and either an o2+odac or a Magni 2+Magni 2

>>61457782
Multibit is real, and the modi multibit is a real implementation of it.
But it is a meme; by measurements, it should sound the same.
Same deal as balanced, although there's a lot of fake balanced amps/dacs out there. I wouldn't be surprised if shady audio companies started selling fake multibits too, but so far there's no such thing.

>>61463153
>Magni 2+Magni 2
Magni 2 + Modi 2

>>61463145
Sweet, are there any youtube channels that aren't completely shit?
>>61463153
I'm sure that's a good set up, but I'm not sure I want to spend that much right off the bat.

>>61463248
>Sweet, are there any youtube channels that aren't completely shit?
Nope.

I'm a hygience / neat freak and I don't like the idea of buying "disposable" headphones.

I am incredibly interested in the SHP9500, and the only thing holding me back are those "permanent" earpads. Why the hell is that a thing? I love that it has detachable cables in this price range but replacebale earpads are the basics.

can I buy some sort of water-resistent earpad cover (leatherette or something?) or similar while keeping the sound unobstructed?

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>>61463291
I'm the same and personally wouldn't be satisfied by any shit like that.

I mean, what are you going to do if you drop them, or you get really drunk, take a shower using dogshit as shampoo, then wear your headphones? You need to be able to replace or wash the pads.

Also fuck Memeheiser for saying you can't wash HD800 pads. Mine come up just fine in warm-ish water and a tiny bit of detergent.

>>61463291
>can I buy some sort of water-resistent earpad cover (leatherette or something?) or similar while keeping the sound unobstructed?
No. Just get an HD558 while it's still cheap.

Man, I just can't get these headphones to sing.

>>61463368
>or you get really drunk, take a shower using dogshit as shampoo, then wear your headphones? You need to be able to replace or wash the pads.
I've never done anything that bad while drunk, worst I've done was snort a fuck ton of cocaine and let my gay friend fuck me.

>>61463420
the sale for the HD558 and the HD598 has already passed for Canada unfortunately.

>>61463368
I'll just hold off on getting it. what a fucking pity. I'm tempted as fuck for the K612 as well but those have attached cable. so pick a poison I guess

>>61463069
>Russian has a good set of rules, but the exceptions are relatively rare and just that - exceptions.
Shto byla?
>Whereas in English a lot of the rules are more like guidelines.
Yes and that what makes it easy, you just follow those few guidelines and it's all safe and sound. I don't know where you got that Russian has few exceptions and a 'good' set of rules from. There are lots of rules, a set of exceptions for almost any rule, complex punctuations system along with complex word formation on top of that.
>And yes, it is a synthetic language unlike English, and so has more word variations because the words are composed of more morphemes which convey grammatical meaning. That's a natural property of synthetic languages. It's not that hard to grasp.
So? This system is more complex than in English, instead of using a the or an you rely on constantly changing words to convey a grammatical meaning in sentence. Swapping words in english within a sentence is easy, in Russian you have more flexibility but if you change something you will need to adjust that world and possibly half of the sentence. How many declensions there are in English? In Russian there are 6, used to be 7, with rules for words formations assigned to each of them, how that's easier to grasp than what you have in English?

>>61463120
>>61463079
How much do tubes help with Beyer's treble? How do they pair, which tubes are you using and what is this pair of bookshelves?

>Budget
€200
>Location
Euroland (Ireland)
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Over ear
>Open or closed
Open
>Comfort level
Planning on using for long gaming sessions
>Sound signature
Neutralish, not retard levels of bass
>Past headphones
mx40s

>>61463512
You already know the answer, anon.

>>61463509
Here's a protip: EQ is free

>>61463512
HD555 and mod them
http://mikebeauchamp.com/misc/sennheiser-hd-555-to-hd-595-mod/

>>61453503
>no anime

All ledditors PLEASE leave. kthx

>>61463512
HD579 if you don't want to buy an amp, HD600 if you do.

>Budget
100-200
pretty flexible
>Location
US
>Source
PC/Phone
>Type of headphone
IEM never been able to get those mushroom things to fit in my ear
>Comfort level
Not something silly I plan on using them daily
>Sound signature
I don't know

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wtf I love beyerdynamic now

>>61463544
Yes yes, I think we can close hpg and just put a sticky to get SHP9500 and EQ them.

>>61463607
Etymotic ER-4SR

>Budget
$300-$500. Or even higher if it means I never ever have to worry about mid-fi hell.
>Location
Canada
>Source
E10K or Topping A30/D30 coming soon (chinkfi Schiit stack basically
>Type of headphone
Full-sized comfort
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Anything full-sized is going to be heaven compared to the on-ears I had before. I'm more worried about sweat or temperature rising up which I imagine might be an issue with closed headphones compared to open headphones.
>Sound signature
Neutral? Can I just learn to EQ if I wanted a colored signature? Would vice versa work if I wanted to get a neutral sound from "colored" headphones.
>Past headphones
AKG K142HD, ATH M30X, Sony MDR7506, AKG K702

>>61463646
>Not something silly I plan on using them daily
>Etymotics

>>61463696
>Can I just learn to EQ if I wanted a colored signature? Would vice versa work if I wanted to get a neutral sound from "colored" headphones.
Yes and yes. There's a learning curve to it, but yes.

>>61463587
Dumb fucking anime poster.

>>61463696
Obviously the only choice is Sennheiser HD 600 here, the real end game headphone.

>>61463740
Etymotics are comfortable if you're not a pussy. You're not a pussy, are you, anon?

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>>61463463
>This system is more complex than in English, instead of using a the or an you rely on constantly changing words to convey a grammatical meaning in sentence.
You got that backwards, this system is more complex than Russian - instead of adjusting a few simple morphemes, you need to add extra words to explain your words, but there are specific rules as to which helper words go where and whether they're even needed, and of course this being English half the time the rules you learned won't even apply anyway.

Now you're going to disagree, but the point is, both analytical and synthetic languages have their quirks, and I really don't agree about synthetic ones being particularly hard. You're probably not just used to them.

>>Whereas in English a lot of the rules are more like guidelines.
>Yes and that what makes it easy
Ummmm no sweaty
Seriously though how is "learn these rules, except in this giant fuckton of cases where you're going to have to learn individually, or where they follow other rules for no reason" easier than "learn these rules, except for these 10-20 exception words you need to learn individually"?

Also I'd like to point out the complete lack of correlation between English pronunciation and spelling. In Russian, as long as you follow the rules of grammar, if you hear a word you can write it, decline it, derive other words from it, etc. In fact, where that's not the case that's considered unusual and these are also learned as rules (such as zhy-shy being written with i, double-consonant rules, rules and checkwords for unstressed vowels, etc.)
Meanwhile, in English, spelling is basically learned individually for each word. If you don't remember how to spell it, you're flat out of luck.

TL;DR: You're used to English but aren't so fluent in Russian, and with it being a completely different type of language you find it foreign and difficult. That's not an objective truth, that's just you.
I'm fluent in both by the way.

Also my captcha right now

>>61463756
>closed
Stop false-flagging.

I don't get paid enough by Sennheiser.

>>61463781
They promised to send me a free replacement headband for my HD 600 if I kept shilling for them

>>61463696
>$500, Canada
Buy the Oppo PM3

>>61463774
>falling for the closed meme

>>61463509
880s are still bright with tubes but it does round it out a bit. Those things are 9 years old though and I'm very acclimated to them.
Speakers are powered desktop speakers. PSB Alpha PS1.

>>61463882
>I'm very acclimated to them
Read: my headphones have destroyed my hearing and I'm deaf above 8k

>>61463646
Those mushroom caps on them have never worked for me can't get them to stay in my ears.

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>>61463752
dumb redditor

>>61463576
Where can you get them? amazon says they're Currently unavailable.

>>61463941
Use Comply foam tips.

>>61463809
i'm reading from reviews that these are closer to on-ears rather than over-ears because of their size, that sounds unfortunate

>Budget
Prefer <= $250, could imagine $400 for a compelling option
>Location
US
>Source
PC mobo for music/gaming/anime/etc. Not sure if I'm ready to go down the amp rabbit hole yet
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Probably open
>Comfort level
Whatever
>Sound signature
Whatever
>Past headphones
Love my DT770 80 ohm that I got a year ago, wanna try something new. I'm probably not a very sophisticated listener, mostly just looking for a good complement to the Beyers if that even makes any sense

>>61464368
You can afford it, so just get HD600.
$270 at amazon now. It's more than $250, but HD600 is a compelling option if any. There's no better all-rounder for home/computer use.
It's open, neutral, modular (all pieces are replaceable, so it should last forever) and highly reputable. Go read/watch reviews of it and buy with confidence ;-)

>>61464368
HD579 or HD600

>>61464469
>HD600
These sound like a good bet, but can a typical motherboard handle 300 ohms okay? With my 80 ohm set I usually listen at about 50% volume, so if it's almost 4 times harder to drive, it sounds like it could be trouble

>>61464635
An E10K/Fulla2 is pretty affordable.

i got the E10K myself because
>made in america
is not a pro to me.

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>>61464635
Yes, it'll be ok.
The 300ohm will mean two things:
1. You'll be able to make it loud, but not as loud as to damage your hearing. It will also prevent distortion from driving them at more volume than your motherboard can feed current for. If your motherboard is modern, it possibly has an amp built in, in which case you'll be just fine.
2. Impedance mismatch won't happen; Even if the output impedance of your onboard audio is garbage high, such as 30ohm, you'll still have 300:30 = 10:1 ratio, which is good enough, unlike with low impedance headphones (such as your DT770 80ohm).

As a necessary reminder, most money should be spent in transducers (headphones), not amps/dacs and such, as the most important factor to the sound is the transducer.

Buy external such devices ONLY if you have issues, like your volume is too low or you can hear noise or distortion. If you ever do, go for a dac+amp (such as the fulla2), as that guarantees you will have neither dac or amp issues, no matter what computer you attach it to.

>>61454594
Sounds like you're looking for an oppo ha-2 se. More portable than anything, but still a fantastic device.

>>61464664
>>61464716
Cheers, thanks

>Budget
300 CAD
>Location
Canada
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Max comfy 12 hours a day everyday use
>Sound signature
Dont care
>Past headphones
Gaymer shitcans

>>61464747
beyer custom studios

So is it possible to get good sub bass in open headphones?

>>61464942
Yes, on anything but NO BASS Sennheisers

>>61465027
>sennheisers
>no bass
dumbfuck

>>61465064
>t. NO BASS Sennheiser owner

>>61464942
I use EqualizerAPO to add more sub bass on my HD650 when I feel like it, and it keeps me satisfied.

>>61465027
>>61464942
>no bass / snapheiser troll. Standard response here: >>61459188

>>61464942
TH-X00

>>61465064
how good are Koss "the plug" headphones? I use dt880s at home but I want something really cheap that I can use at the gym, on transit, at school, etc. Don't care to have anything expensive because I tend to lose/break my IEMs easily.

>>61465156
>>61465156
>>61465156

NEW

>>61465160
It's not even close to the fucking bump limit yet you idiot

>>61465161
Fuck you faggot.

>>61465169
t. neo-/g/

I figured this would be the best thread to post this in rather than making a new one. I just got new headphones, but I want to get music to work with them better. So I was looking into getting my music in FLAC format and trying them out. but is there any decent place to get FLAC files for music rather than just torrenting?

>>61465246
try tidal (should be a trial and/or discounted rate). if you want hard copies, hdtracks/quboz/bandcamp. otherwise the usual private trackers since they have the largest collection.

>>61464716
You keep calling it an impedance mismatch, even though that wouldn't affect headphones electrically. Impedance matching is matching the output and load impedance, important for data transmission and acoustics.
What you are really talking about is plugging the headphone into a voltage source which ideally has the property of zero output Z, or at least a negligible Zout compared to Zload. I suspect you have too many article that try to dumb this stuff down and describe it as some sort of absolute ratio, but you miss out on when it isn't a problem and can actually be desirable.

>>61463770
>You got that backwards, this system is more complex than Russian - instead of adjusting a few simple morphemes, you need to add extra words to explain your words, but there are specific rules as to which helper words go where and whether they're even needed, and of course this being English half the time the rules you learned won't even apply anyway.

Mнe кaжeтcя чтo y тeбя cнecлo кpышy. B pyccкoм языкe инвepcия или зaмeнa cлoв в пpeдлoжeнии чacтo влeчeт зa coбoй нyждy в измeнeнии вceй cтpyктypы пpeдлoжeния.

КaжиCЬ y тeбя кpышA пoeхaлa. Пpи зaмeнE или инвepcиИ cлoв в пpeдлoжeнии в pyccкoм языкe, чacтo тeбe пoнaдoбитьcя (чтo cдeлaть) измeнИTЬ (a нe измeнять т.к. иcпoльзyeтcя глaгoл coвepшeннoгo видa чтo cдeлaть) вcЮ cтpyктypy пpeдлoжeния.
6 changes.

I think that you gone crazy, in Russian language change or inversion of words in the sentence often means that you are forced to change the whole sentence.

You ARE (you are, he is, quite simple) crazy, when you change worD order in the sentence you often forced to change the whole sentence.
2 changes.

>>61465440
Well, perhaps impedance mismatch is used for something else :X

Say, the output impedance is 50, and the headphone impedance is 100Ω at most of the spectrum, but 200 at a certain area. That's 100:50 = 2:1 and 200:50 = 4:1 depending on frequency. As a result, the FR will be impacted.

I'm also aware line outs have relatively high impedance, and for whatever reason that's desired, while headphone outs have low impedance. Computers tend to have reconfigurable jacks with compromise impedance between that of a line out and that of a headphone out, which makes them not ideal.

>>61463770
>>61465519
>Also I'd like to point out the complete lack of correlation between English pronunciation and spelling. In Russian, as long as you follow the rules of grammar, if you hear a word you can write it, decline it, derive other words from it, etc.
>In Russian, as long as you follow the rules of grammar, if you hear a word you can write it
MoшeHHик when you don't really indicate in pronunciation that there is a double NN while in мacлeный while there is somewhat longer N because of the ы letter you write one N. There are SHIT LOADS of things like that in Russian language. I remember countless times when we had every few weeks a small examination making us write around 30 words that sound in one way, but are written in another.
>"learn these rules, except in this giant fuckton of cases where you're going to have to learn individually, or where they follow other rules for no reason"
Literally russian.
>In fact, where that's not the case that's considered unusual and these are also learned as rules (such as zhy-shy being written with i, double-consonant rules, rules and checkwords for unstressed vowels, etc.)
> in English, spelling is basically learned individually for each word. If you don't remember how to spell it, you're flat out of luck.
So you end up with lot of rules, exceptions all just so it makes 'sense' altho those rules are interchangeable and often collide with each other while in English everything is similar and at max slightly different. Maybe for autismus maximus it makes more sense to have rules to follow rather than learning things as they are, most of us are not autismus maximus and this many rules is just an over engineering for the same of itself. German is that regard is cleaner and more logical, it has rules but not fuckload of them and they don't make a whole language into the grammatical mess. In Chinese as far as I know there are words more than in any other language that you have to learn separately.

>>61464716
>Buy external such devices ONLY if you have issues, like your volume is too low or you can hear noise or distortion.
Wrong, easy test of HD600 on my macbook, friends fillio and and Element easily revealed that HD600 sound different with amp and without it. Most noticeably in bass area.

>>61465690
You only tested one computer output, and it's a filthy mac.
You know Apple consider their headphone jacks the most important feature (not).

>>61465519
Beликa бeдa блин. Дa, в pyccкoм языкe тaк нaдo дeлaть. O yжac - вeдь тaк чacтo пpихoдитcя пepecтpyктиpoвaть пpeдлoжeния, чтo этo пpocтo кoшмap!

Heт, дибил ты, пидopaз. Paзныe языки пo-paзнoмy paбoтaют. И нe дyмaй, чтo я нe зaмeтил, кaк ты coвepшeннo пpoигнopиpoвaл мoй apгyмeнт пpo opфoгpaфию: в pyccкoм кaк гoвopишь, тaк и пишeшь, пpoизнoшeниe тeбe дaёт пoчти вcё (кpoмe нeкoтopых occoбeннocтeй, кoтopыe хopoшo пoкpывaютcя paзными пpaвилaми). A нa aнглийcкoм хpeн тeбe пpoизнoшeниe дacт.

tl;dr different languages have different difficulties.

>>61465652
>There are SHIT LOADS of things like that in Russian language.
No, they are the rule, not the exception.
>in English everything is similar and at max slightly different
You DO know about "ghoti", right? Now _this_ stuff is actually everywhere.

It's like Finnish - every word has like 5,000 variants BUT spelling is extremely phonetic. Russian is just less extreme. English is on the complete opposite side of the spectrum.

>>61465743
>И нe дyмaй, чтo я нe зaмeтил, кaк ты coвepшeннo пpoигнopиpoвaл мoй apгyмeнт пpo opфoгpaфию: в pyccкoм кaк гoвopишь, тaк и пишeшь, пpoизнoшeниe тeбe дaёт пoчти вcё (кpoмe нeкoтopых occoбeннocтeй, кoтopыe хopoшo пoкpывaютcя paзными пpaвилaми).
>MoшeHHик when you don't really indicate in pronunciation that there is a double NN while in мacлeный while there is somewhat longer N because of the ы letter you write one N. There are SHIT LOADS of things like that in Russian language. I remember countless times when we had every few weeks a small examination making us write around 30 words that sound in one way, but are written in another.
Tы дeбил? B aнглийcкoм языкe cлoв и cлoвocoчeтaний иcключeний из нopмы нa пopядoк мeньшe, мeньшe пpaвил, лeгчe cклoнeния, мeньшe пaдeжeй, пpaктичecки нeт пyнктyaции. Ecли дpoчишь нa пpaвилa тaк тoмy и быть, нo в pyccкoм их бoльшe и инocтpaнцy eвpoпeйцy или aзиaтy их бyдeт cлoжнee выyчить.
>No, they are the rule, not the exception.
You are trying to troll me right? My point that in Russian there are so many rules, and exceptions, that it all turns into mess opposite to English where there are few rules and nonetheless irregularities are easy to memorise because they don't fluctuate from rule to rule. If for your autismus maximus it's easier to learn a tome of rules to have a peace of mind it's one thing, but it's harder than to have a language that follows the same few rules with few irregularities. Shit like ghoti is everywhere in Russian, you pronounce things in one way, but due to many rules often write them in another.

>>61465526
>voltage divider
You're forgetting the phase angle, and that sometimes the shift in balance is desired.
But yes.
>line outs
You'll find that line outs are low impedance outside the world of loudspeakers and headphones. I'm not sure how they settled on the values for line outs. Some thoughts:

-Arguments can be made around video transmission and other high frequency signals but things such as RCA connectors were originally intended for audio frequencies, for which impedance matching and transmission line behavior are irrelevant. It is possible they didn't bother to produce dedicated outs. 50 and 75 ohm termination has utility for other applications, and the phono carts of the time weren't affected by this at all.
-It's a simple means of stopping a dead short. 50 to 110 ohms of impedance means nothing to the >10kOhm input standard on modern electronics.

>>61453503
>Budget
~$200
>Location
US
>Source
Doesn't matter
>Type of headphone
IEM
>Comfort level
Comfy enough for a few hours at a time.
>Sound signature
Most likely bassy, but it isn't a deal-breaker if it's more neutral.
>Past headphones
Just shitty pairs. Looking to get something good.

>>61467405
What I meant by the source doesn't matter is that I will mostly be using it on my phone, but sometimes a computer.

>>61467405
GR07 Bass Edition with detachable cable

I own an LCD-2, a Beyer T1 and an HD600, and I still bought an HD6XX because if it's actually a rebranded HD650 that's an insane deal. You guys should get one too while you can!

Are the Sony XB90EX too overpriced now? Is it all really just hype, or are they worth the $200 everyone on ebay or amazon charges.

I'm looking to get a pump/amp, and headphones this weekend. I was wondering if y'all could help me out. I need something with decent battery life, and is fun to use. I was thinking a FiiO X3 with click wheel, but I'm uncertain because I've heard it's laggy.

I'm gonna get Etyomics MK5 earbuds, and I'm uncertain about an amp too. Could y'all please give me some suggestions?

>>61467663
Portable music player*