Networking with RPi

No, just sell the Pi, your laptop and get a mac.

>>61434642
Before you get a rack and stuff it with hardware, just spin up a half dozen VMs. Any hypervisor will let you simulate multiple machines with several interfaces each, and connect them up in various ways.

>>61434702
But I want something physical to touch and feel.

>>61434786
You have your dick for that.

>>61434786
they want everything to be virtual, like their waifu.

>>61434642
Seriously though is this an alrighty idea?

>>61436902
> plug a pi and a laptop into one switch
> learn networking

Nigger, it's the same thing as having two devices on the same WiFi. Literally everyone does this. There's nothing to learn or interact with.

Go rent a VPS and make your own email or something if you want to know how networking works.

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>>61437382
Isn't this actually a fun thing to learn, apart from the weeb nonsense?

>>61434642
Bump

Op, you'd learn MUCH more if you download Packet tracer and simulate the shit out of it

Also, download Odom's CCNA book and Lammle's CCNA book and just repeat everything from it in Packet tracer

do NOT buy equipment until you know a thing or two, because everything cheap will be missing something and you'd just waste your money

OP you here?

>>61438715
hola this, doing my ccna soon. it's great

>>61438615
>fun

get the fuck of /g/

>>61439653
>not having fun while breaking Nth VM clone and just cloning some more from a parent VM to play around

>>61434642
>learn the fundamentals of computer networking.
>I plan on buying a cheap unmanaged switch
looooooooooool

>>61438946
Yap

>>61440191
What are you going to do?

>>61438715
Ayy thanks senpai

>>61440211
I don't know anything about it senpai, so I'll start with
>>61438715
Since it won't cost me any money (poorfag lol)
After I get to some speed I see

>>61439706
>not having fun playing vidya with your brand new ryzen CPU and <whatevertheirnameislol> GPU

>>61440266
I also like wires so I think I'll buy one Ethernet cable, just for the feel of networking

>>61440266
I wrote that post

First read Lammle's book, do packet tracer shit (dl latest packet tracer and just sign up for their bullshit, you get full program without needing to crack it), then read Odom's book

Also you can download shitload of Comptia's Network+ cert guides and Bulldog's CCNA Udemy course

With all that you will learn a lot about networking and after all, you can pass CCNA or Net+ (ccna is much more valued)

Also, you can download CBT Nuggets Installing Network Cabling and Devices course and see how to do it in real life

Everything i mentioned is easily findable on internet (i have it on my pc right now)

Pirate PacketTracer and go through this

https://ciscoiseasy.blogspot.com

>>61440356
Wow thank you so much man

>>61440385
No problem

If you like videos more than books, i recommend CBT Nuggets CCNA series, there are also ITPRO ccna series and i think Pluralsight

t. self taught ccna without job because of shitty 3rd world country

>>61440356
Quick question what's the cheapest way to connect my neighbor's computer to mine over wire? She stays home all day because of some disease and i am neet, so I said I'll show her how to play counter strike 1.6
Her mum said no sex so inb4 any autism

>>61440381
There is no need to pirate PT.

>>61440512
do it anyway just to shit on mr. cisco

>>61440484
>Quick question what's the cheapest way to connect my neighbor's computer to mine over wire?

How far is the pc?

Cheapest way is definitely wifi (free lol)

If you can you could connect her cat5e (that's ethernet) cable to your router (even the shittiest routers have like 4 ports)

>>61434702
This

>>61440570
Our windows are about 10 feet apart, the laptops could be like 3,4 feet from the windows
All totalling, nothing more than 20 feet

>>61440704
ethernet cable to the same router

you can create Homegroup in windows if you want to share porn

>>61434642
how about learning some theory first?

>>61440763
Yap going to do that first

>>61434642
Get a few pi's and a hub, not even a switch, so you can do packet sniffing analysis.

set up a bunch of static IP's on a 10.0.0.0\24 and go to town.

>>61440888
dude, cisco 2950 24ports is like $20, nobody uses hubs

Plus he should learn some theory first

>>61440917
It's not about the price you dumb faggot. It's about starting a learning lab using the simplest possible networking component so that he can actually learn about the fundamentals of the actual protocols involved without having some switch get in the way of actually learning about shit.

>>61440970
Goal is to get most bang for the buck and not overcrowd house with useless shit like hubs

Literally everything he can learn with hubs can be done with switches, plus tons more

>>61440970
>cont.
Anyone can read RFCs or some faggot Cisco textbook, but setting up a web server on one pi and using lynx from another while sniffing wireshark from the laptop is going to be better than whatever "theory" you are talking about.

>>61441005
>overcrowd the house
>a 4 port hub is the size of a pack of cigarettes

Fuck off Cisco shill.

>>61441045
I hate cisco first of all but i admit they have the biggest market share

And yes, not everyone lives in USA and has infinite money and space

>>61441077
>not everyone has infinite money and space
>suggesting garbage obsolete shit cisco 2950
Fuck off.

>>61441113
Ok, you are one of those guys, goodbye mate

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>>61441133
>I'm a shill for Cisco trying to sell overpriced garbage to newbies when a $5 hub will do the job better and now I'm getting real buttmad about being called out for my shilling.

setting up a virtual network environment with linux network namespaces could also be interesting, but I'd say that's a little more advanced

Nigga download netkit, it's literally made for this and it's free

>>61441325
>netkit

Interesting, is it just a simulator, or does it do something more?

>>61434642
>Wants to learn networking
>Unmanaged hardware
Yeah no

Why would a hub be preferable to a switch?

>>61441439
No reason whatsoever

>>61441381
It's a distro with that lets you whip up vm's and use them as router/switches/vlans
We used it on our college intro to networks course and it was pretty good

gns3 is great if you want to play around with routing, but it sucks when it comes to switches.

>>61441485
oh god gns3....i really wanted to like it but it did everything to piss me off, hard

>>61441439
>>61441448
>full retard

When you really want to learn something, you start with the simplest cases and build up from there.

Hubs just dumbly broadcast every bit to every port. Switches try to be clever and route things based on MAC addresses.

You want to learn on a hub so that you can actually sniff packets and learn about how networking works instead of being in the corporate trap of just learning to be a Cisco certified technician.

>>61441499
it pissed me off quite a few times too, but it was great for configuring bigger scale BGP, OSPF, etc. on real IOSes

>>61441485
it doesn't suck, you just shove a switching module into a router, turn off routing, and use slightly different commands
like switchport-vlan instead of vlan

>>61441522
or, with a managed switch, you set up port mirroring
there is no reason to learn hubs because hubs are not in use

>>61441522
fucking idiot, nobody uses hubs in real life and switches also broadcast frames when they need, at least with switches you can sniff both unicast frames and broadcast frames

>>61441534
I wanted to try private vlans. it didn't work on IOLs and routers don't support them as far as I'm aware. you could use a router for the basic stuff, but a switch is a switch.

>>61441560
>making beginner learning more complicated and expensive and upselling that managed switch

You don't "learn hubs" you fucking retard.

You learn about networking protocols using a learning lab, and you start from first principles to become a true patrican, not shit-tier learning about how to become a NOC pleb.

Work your way through these OP.
http://wiki.netkit.org/index.php/Labs_Official

>>61441591
c3275 with nm-16esw and 16mb pcmcia disk0 can do almost all switching functions
though real equipment is still better so you can see broadcast storms in real time and watch the indicator led rave

>>61441621
whatevs idiot

>>61441681
>whatevs idiot
says the NOC pleb trying to get people to join them in their hell.

>>61441701
ain't my career, i just do installs on the side

what do you do for a living, mr. go buy a hub?

>>61441681
I might as well install gns3 again. haven't done networking in a while.

>>61441765
newest version is sweet, gns3 even has multiplayer mode now so you can simulate the other side of a leased line and someone that isn't you plopping down the equipment

>>61434642
30€ router with openwrt is basicly a managed switch

>>61434695
>just sell the toy, your laptop and get another big ol' gimped laptop

>>61441869
>just sell the toy, your laptop and get a more expensive and more useless toy
ftfy

>>61441758
That's actually none of your god-damn business.

Actually even better, start by wiring Ethernet cables directly into a breadboard. If you are working with short runs, you shouldn't even need to worry about the signal amplification that a hub will give you.

>>61434642
You want to learn about networking grab packet tracer and start fucking shit up.
Then get a managed switch and an old computer with PFSense and then configure stuf.

>>61442297
whatevs idiot

>>61442482
>I'm mad that some Anon is messing with my shilling plans!!!!11!!!!

>>61442523
whatevs idiot

>>61442535
Actually I'm very involved and aware of the political subtext in this thread and am standing up against corporate capitalism by suggesting that people learn computer networking concepts from a radical perspective rather than choking on Cisco's cock.

>>61442604
> and am standing up against corporate capitalism by
being unemployed

>>61442604
cisco isn't the only switch seller out there, idiot

>>61434702
This

>>61442613
Without revealing too much about my identity, actually right now, I have two jobs that are both career-oriented.

>>61442721
sure

OP, if you really want to go into details, and outside any vendor, you can download Kurose Networking book, and even more detailed Tanenbaum Networking book

>>61442721
Jesus it is a newfag invasion. Anyone else noticing all the new tripcodes and posts like these that reek of underage newfaggotry?

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>>61441522
>switch
>route

>>61441842
...with two logical ports and shitty throughput.

You can buy actual 8 port managed switches for 30 burger bucks now.

>>61434702
Not OP but I have the same idea. Thanks for this.

>>61434642
Umm guys OP here, I just bought 4 Ethernet cables of about 5 feet each, I need to connect them to make one cable of 20 feet. What do I use?
Also can I crimp by hand, I don't have the crimping tool.

>>61447160
You don't. Buy another cable. Shits are like $3 on Monoprice.