/retro/ - Retro Computers

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I hope this guy posts here.

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>>61358088

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>>61358112

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bumpin

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>>61358026
Nice! How comfy is that!

>>61358088
This has to be the best looking thing I've ever seen.

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>>61358026
>Encarta 98
i wiped a tear

>>61358026
20 years from now, you faggots would be masturbate all over gaming laptops and 4k monitors.

>>61361258
Nah. We won't, but probably kids who are in diapers right now will.
That's usually how that shit works.

Even though I don't see the appeal myself. That old shit was different, now we have standards that everything use and are made in China in the same factory with just different brand names.

>>61361322
Is that yours?
Amiga a CUTE.

>>61361411

I wish, that looks comfy as fuck.

>>61361411
The Amiga 1000 seriously feels like a prototype though.

>>61361567
Yup, they rushed it too much.
Thank the stupid Amiga, Commodore, Atari business that was going on.

>>61361567
>>61361587
It's chipset is impressive though, the A500 that used the same chips was still impressive even though it came out two years latter.

>>61361603
Yeah, but you have to load the kickstart from floppy on the A1000. It's really a prototype, the design is really cool though.

>>61361613
I know, I was adding to >>61361587

>>61361012
>that fat hand

>>61361679
>does not know who Clint is

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Will the cheapo mid 00's XP laptops ever be considered retro? I have a couple of these as backup machines and they can still do modern tasks like playing HD video.

>>61361697
Probably. Someone who grew up with one will find them pretty retro as an adult.

>>61361721
When will 00s nostalgia become hot shit?

>>61361744
When kids who are sucking on moms tit right now can post on 4chan.

>>61361721

I would love to hear what they liked about that era when that day comes. For me it was the time when we said goodbyes to the beige boxes and hardware like FM synth sound cards. Then started the increase of low quality products, totally devoid of any aesthetic.

>>61361889
>low quality products
Bitch please, all those value sound cards with FM synths.

Low quality products devoid of any aesthetic always existed.

>>61361697
>>61361721

I really doubt it. These old retro threads always have computers that were either a) insanely popular or b)had a timeless design.

So the MacBooks, EliteBooks, ThinkPads, Latitudes, ToughBooks and Vaios will be retro but pretty much everything else from the XP era won't be.

>>61361972
>These old retro threads always have computers that were either a) insanely popular or b)had a timeless design.
t-thanks... I'll remember not to post any of my random clone machine anymore

>>61361990
A clone of a recognizable design is still recognizable. Clones are interesting as well because the practice of cloning a computer really doesn't exist any more.

>>61361948

They do have a certain charm that comes from their uniqueness. If they didn't have the standard OPL synth from Yamaha, they would have their own implementation that was slightly different. I'm not saying low quality products never existed, of course they did, but can you really claim that their numbers haven't increased? For example, 90's keyboards usually had laser etched keys, which will basically never wear out. You don't see those these days.

>>61361012
LGR posting kys

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>>61362074
Why the butthurt?
Just because he's a normie?
At least he has passion for his shit, not like most hipsters shitting up /retro/ these days.

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>>61358026
Just found this.

>>61362398
How nifty is that!

Does it work?
Open BASIC and do:

10 PRINT CHR$ (205.5 + RND (1)); : GOTO 10

>>61362492
It does work but when puting batterys in it the springs get really hot so I think something must be wrong. Plus I don't have any batterys around here.

>>61362398
>Radio Shack
>Let's make a line of products, from desktop, portable and pocket computers
>Name them all TRS-80
not confusing at all

>>61362514
Good luck and have fun fixing it!

>>61362514
a good way to find shorts is to put shitloads of current into it and see what goes up in smoke (or flames)

>>61362248
>be blind
>buy computer in the early 90's
>can't do jack shit with it
>at least you know it's a Pentium

>>61360283
Does it come with the machine gun turret?

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>>61358026

>>61362929
>windows 7
that would have been something cool in 2003 and not when Win7 was out

still cool though

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after a bit of head cleaning and dust removal it's alive

but unlike my other PS/2s this one doesn't want to boot at all with a bad RTC battery so I guess I'm ordering a new clock chip from the chinks and waiting a couple years

>>61363016
What RTC does it have? The Dallas one?

>>61363052
yep, I know you can mod them to take 2032s but I don't think I have the tools for it at the moment

or the patience

>>61363075
No excuses, do it!

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>>61363296
I probably will when I get the shit together, it's always good to have

however for now I have other toys to distract me while I wait, so it's good

>>61361697
Of course, retro in the actual sense of the word is just a time frame.

Now will they be desirable and lusted over? Probably not for the most part outside of nostalgic attachment or pure utility for running specific software, just as is the case with a lot of "retro" systems today.

>>61363442
Just dug mine out. What should I do with it?

>>61363837
Burry it.

>>61363837
what, a Z22?
surf freewarepalm on the web archive and find some cool shit, it makes a pretty good gameboy emulator too

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>>61358049
;) ;) ;0 ;) ;) ;) ;0 ;0 ;0 ;0

>>61364416

 setfont ter-228b 

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https://youtu.be/lXkkJfWWPDk
>"restoration"
>permafucks plastic with unsightly streaks, bleaches it way past it's intended beige, disintegrates leather handle
Fuck this retard e-celeb.

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>>61365635
>when he starts massaging the mustard and ketchup

>>61365635
Well, at least he's using the new Hakko iron someone sent him and not butchering the solder work anymore.

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>>61365635
>intended beige
It was originally grey you retard

>>61358049
Is that Ethan?

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>>61361697
I believe only the early 00's XP laptops are retro ATM.

>>61361744
In a few years at least. There's already an image like this, so it's possible.

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>>61366711
Yes, it is I. beep boop

White/beige electronic enclosures look so good.
Sadly everything must be black or silver nowadays.

>>61367775
Are there any good looking cases (other than G3 mac) with translucent colored plastic?

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>>61368411

>>61368463
pretty nice except for that shitty mousepad

>>61368475

I know, but I like how it shows that beige and white would still look good on modern hardware.

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can someone help me identify what model is this old pc?

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>>61358026

>>61358088
>comes with nontouchbar

>>61358026
>thinkpad with windows 98
This was literally the zenith of civilization.

>>61365635
He has gone to shit over the last year.
Maybe he hit his head real hard or something.

>>61366675
Well, hes unit did look the right shade in the end.
Even if he think it should be beige.

Maybe he thinks of the painted ones, those where pretty beige.

>>61358026
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2UwA6KocXTw

>>61368545
Is it Soviet?

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So the battery in this was getting crusty and I decided to remove it before it caused any damage. I've ordered some bits to install a battery holder and such. In the meantime it turns out this fucker can't even get to bios without it's battery. Wire the old battery back in? boots. no battery? nope.
Super strange, most I've seen just lose their time and various parameters. oh well, new battery stuff is on it's way.

>>61370325
Nice, specs?

Does it get any power fed back into the battery when you turn it on? You could use a supercapacitor then, no hassle with batteries.
Does it say anything without the battery? I've encountered a few systems that just give a black screen without a CMOS battery.

>>61370430
It's a 25Mhz 486 SX (sad), with 8 mb of ram, and a ~200mb hard drive. At the moment I've got some generic 1mb vga card in it, a SB16, and a 3com network card.

I plan to do some more upgrades to it. It'll happily take a faster cpu and I'd like to bump up the ram.

Power is fed back into the battery yes. I was plaining on just using cr2032 and a diode to stop it from charging, though I'm not sure how long it'll actually last.

Nah it doesn't say anything. Just a black screen and no response without it. It's the first machine of this era I've seen to do that. I thought at first maybe I'd fucked it up, but sure enough with a battery it's fine.

>>61370226
I think not, it's probably some italian corporate computer from the 80s but i can't quite find the model

>>61365635
He did a really bad job on this really.

>>61370542
Very cool.
Is it a VLB machine or ISA olnly?
Got a CPU socket for upgrades?

Happy upgrading, seems like a fun machine to pimp up.

>Power is fed back into the battery yes. I was plaining on just using cr2032 and a diode to stop it from charging, though I'm not sure how long it'll actually last.
Just an idea, my 486 uses a supercap after the battery leaked and it has been working great.

Hey /retro/, what are some recommended computers that are user friendly if I wanna open it up.

>>61370768
Open up, physically?
Late 80's and 90's Macintoshes.
All-in-keyboard Amigas.

Pretty much even old X86 are "user friendly" just because they are still quite simple.

Why?

>>61370325
Just noticed the OS/2 Warp and C++ set box, noice.

>>61370790
Yeah.
I still like it to run Windows, so I'm probably gonna go with a old x86.
Why? I really don't know why, I guess I just wanna buy an old computer before the prices rise.

>>61370926
I mean I probably wouldn't even get one. I still need to get a computer from early 2000s for my FreeBSD project. Tanks anon anyways.

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>>61370926
>>61370986
>I still like it to run Windows
Get one of those old Compaq computers or IBM PS/2 ones, those where pretty user serviceable.

If you do get one, have fun.

Tell us about the FreeBSD project? Get a dual (Pentium 3/4) CPU IBM workstation machine, those where pretty nifty.

>>61370748
ISA only. Yep, the CPU is socketed.

>>61368545
Do you have one or are you able to get one?

>>61362955
>what did he mean by this?

>>61367775
good thread

>>61372160
it's a device you'd expected to see in 2003 and not 2009

>>61363075
>tools
You only need a dremel and a soldering iron
T. Did that recently

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>>61372224
you'd probably even succeed with just an exacto knife and some tape

>>61370325
What happens if you just bridge the battery contacts?

>>61372291
What would happen? It would short. Better test with a resistor or capacitor.
It's probably not detecting the battery in the first place, just requires active CMOS for the initialization.

>>61371031
>dual P4
wut?

>>61372103
it's on sale for 100€ and i'm wondering if it's worth anything since it's malfunctioning.
if the model is rare i would definitely buy it to restore it, but don't want to let the seller know that it's worth more than the price he made

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My generic beige boxes in storage.

>>61372400
It was dual Xeon not P4. Sorry.

>>61372793
Much beige
Very nice

>>61372744
Oh cool.
Can you physically examine the machine?

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I used to have a Dual Slot 1 IBM machine in the early 2000's, now I can't even find pictures of it anymore.
Man I wish I still had it.

>>61372865
I bought a Macintosh 128K off a friend for 5$ that he got out of the trash of a local university when i was a kid, eventually took it apart and destroyed it accidentally. I wish I hadn't broken it and thrown it out.

>>61372997
I had a Macintosh Classic I got for free from my mom's friend when I was a kid, I eventually forgot about it and my parents threw it out without me knowing.
I also got a Amiga 500 for like 0.50€ cents, came with everything, but I accidentally did some shit to it, I can't even remember, but it ended up in the trash.

That was 20 years ago though.

>>61374017
I came...

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i keep most of my shit pretty retro

>>61374569

Is that a sleeper?

>>61374598
yes

>>61374618
Nice.
Not retro inside tho, still cool.

>>61374618

I kind of want to make one myself, but every time I start planning, I realise how much easier newer cases are to use. Also, my current case has drive bay doors, which none of my old beige cases have, it's not someting I'd like to give up.

>Find a possibly good deal on a compaq portable
>System works, but doesn't have the floppy to boot

Where exactly am I supposed to get 5.25" floppies that still work?

I now want a beige caddy load Blue Ray/DVD combo drive...

>>61374765
eBay
Most that look nice will still work after a format

>>61358026
>Encarta 98
Unexpected nostalgia.

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>>61374887
>tfw I don't have a retro pc

>>61374765
I've found 3 shrinkwrapped boxes in thrift stores :3

>>61362107
he does shit with old hardware and software all day and has no girlfriend, I don't think he's a normie

>>61361315
there are still different appearances to things, and software is still pretty open, there's free and pirated shit everywhere with wildly varying quality and look and feel

>>61375516
he has a life and actual work
he dosen't browse 4chan but reddit
he actually hooks up even though he got cucked by PUR

pretty normie to me compared to some autists here

>>61375053
>No NTVDM
>In 64-bit Windows.
Life sucks.

>>61365635
if you watch the whole thing, he figured out how to undo the streaks

>>61375539
well, normie or not, LGR is the only person i can endure to watch.

his "lets build a 486 also i'm gay or whatever" inspired me to build an actual PC for old games, instead of using DosBox - or rather, GOG.com - for everything.

>>61361258
even today I'm doing that, fuck I'm posting from an LED-encrusted XPS M170 right now

if it was high-end, unique or otherwise interesting when it was brand new I'm all over that shit, who gives a fuck what the date codes say

>>61366711
No, it's Juden.

>>61377080
Same shit

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gls-eXUwl9g

are there any listings out there or even archives of native OS/2 1.x software beyond the couple versions of Excel/Word that were released on it?

it feels wrong running PC-DOS on a PS/2 but the fuckups with DOS mode on 1.x make it compelling if there isn't any native software I can run on it anyway

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>>61377795
I remember discovering that thing while doing research on the Toshiba T6600. 18 pounds and 5 inches thick

>>61378901
>PCI 3.0
holy shit

>>61358026
excuse me but what keyboard is that on the right?

>>61371031
Oh the FreeBSD project is pretty much nothing, its mainly curiosity of getting it running. Is there a benefit from going with a dual Xeon workstation vs any generic computer from that era?

IBM PS/2 look nice but come with a price, Compaq seems to be one more friendly to my wallet. Thanks anon, have a nice day.

>>61379384
>Is there a benefit from going with a dual Xeon workstation vs any generic computer from that era?
Performance probably. Duh.

>>61379455
Maybe later, I just want to set up and discover the world of FreeBSD...m.

>>61379384
performance and quality, might as well get something worth having while it's cheap instead of settling for stuff that people thought was garbage even when it was new

>>61379455
>>61379540
what about a Supermicro P4DC6 or a HP Proliant DL380?

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>>61379712
Both look decent.
Try getting a Skull Train board and make a custom build!

>>61368455
Some of the DV iMacs, particularly the green and non-bondi or blueberry blues. Graphite iMacs and CRT displays too.

>>61378901
This was the height of the Linux desktop

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>>61362074

>>61371031
I had one of these...

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>tfw making a "sleeper" soonish

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I just got one of these weird-ass things in good working condition from Craigslist. Got everything set up so far except the wifi (which might work once I take out the adapter I stole from my desktop) and the tablet pen, which I'm not sure if it's a problem with the pen or the digitizer or the software. Who knows.

Right now I'm trying to get XP up to speed on it, and I was considering slapping LXLE on it to make it slightly more functional.

>>61377988
I bet at the airport they'll ask you to take it apart

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Get on my level.

>>61381608
This.

>>61368129
this has to be the coolest post here ngl

>tfw feel bad for taking apart my parents old electronics

>>61379105

Unicomp Model M.

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>>61384266

Libretto's are adorable.

>>61382382
That's a really nice case. I'm jelly.

>>61383962
Nice
You surely love your Mandelbrot

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this kills the retro autismo

>>61383962
That's a sweet collection you have here anon. Impressive.

>>61377844
WinWorldPC.com

>>61383962

Is that a recent photo? I honestly can't tell.

>>61388354

I don't think it is, the image doesn't look like it was taken on a digital camera.

>>61388191
acktrually this made the retro autismo hard as diamonds

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>>61383962

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>>61388530
Dumping some old pics from before I built my workshop.

>>61361679
handlet detected

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>>61388550

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>>61358026
hnng

>>61358112
>>61358128
The decor really adds to this, very tasteful.

>>61363016
I love those PS/2 monitors.
Shame mine only does 640x480 or I'd use it with my 386 (will happily do 1024x768)

>>61373979
mmm

>>61358088
I want to FUCK that laptop.

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>>61388733

>>61388733
>>61388751
How cute!

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>>61388733
>>61388751
>tfw you never bothered to take your retro computers out for a walk

I should go play doom on my G40 at the park...

>>61388191
It's not some old single sided drive where the head is pressed against the disc by gravity it doesn't really matter what way you put the drive. All of them are built to worth both says.
Only convenience in cable management.

>>61361697
>>61361721
>>61361990
Never, they are not beige boxes so they are not comfy. Nobody will ever care about your shitty 00s computers. Also XP is horrible and not comfy.

>>61388550
Replicas?

>>61389807
>XP
>not comfy

Well it might not be 2000, but I've enjoyed it for the past 16 years.

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>>61389835

Only the top one.

>>61389842
After SP2 it was OK, but definitively not comfy.

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>>61389807
>>61361697
I bet they'll care about mid-to-late '00s netbooks.

>>61388517
>>61389795
If it doesn't bother you that it is upside down, you're not a retro autismo. You're just a normal retro enthusiast. Congrats

>>61389807
>Also XP is horrible and not comfy.
NT 4.0, 2000 and XP (with the classic theme) are the only comfy versions of Windows. Windows 9x is theoretically comfy, but in practice too much of a pain to come back to and use. ME is best left unmentioned. Windows 3.x was of limited usefulness. I am not sure about Windows NT 3.x. It might be cool.

>>61389878
God I still have my EeePC 701, I think I installed OpenWRT on it for no reason at all

>>61389982

NT 3.51 was basically 4 with the old shell. I'm pretty sure most NT 4 software ran on it without issues.

>>61389942
Nah, we mounted them both ways back in the day too. This would only trigger some "muh 100% pure, accurate, correct" collector fag.

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I still use these daily. Gotta love the orange plasma and double-shot Alps.

One day I'll get around to upgrading the RAM and installing Xenix on the T3100e and Slackware on the T3200sx.

>>61390055
I had one of those with a 50MB hard drive. Thing weighed a ton and I dropped it and it broke.

>>61390004
Let me get the ISO from WinWorld and check. I have a bunch of software that I know works on NT 4.0.

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>>61390007
>Nah, we mounted them both ways back in the day too.
for some strange reason I only see them mounted upside down on machines hastily put together by absolute hacks/newbs

Wish I didn't get rid of 99.05% of all my tech stuff I had. Had a friend that owned a computer shop that I would get shit from for free because it was old or didnt know what it does. Really, he had no I idea on most of the shit, just mostly did Windows OS reinstall, virus removal, and basic hardware upgrades/install. Anything beyond that he would come me in to teach him or do it for him.

A simple ass list because I don't have the time to type it all out and can't remember most of the names/models. I got most of this shit from 08 to 14 for free or bought. I didn't keep all this stuff at one give time. System were coming and going. Some I gave away, parted out, or sold.

>late 90's/early 00's network switches, mostly 24 port ones
>5 Dell Power Edge Servers, Dual P2s with 512MB to 1GB each
>Old P2/AMD K6 to P4/AMD Athlon computers from Dell, HP, Systemax, Gateway, Sony, and custom build. Desktops and Laptops. Most of the Dell desktops were Optiplex models.
>SGI 02
>3 SGI Indy
>Sun SPARCstation something
>Dual P3 Gateway Server
>Some old P2 Gateway Media Center
>Asus Netbooks, like 2 or 3 of them
>3-8 g3 iMacs
>g4 iMac
>eMac
>6 Powermac G3 B&Ws
>Some old Pre G3 Powermac Tower and All-in-one
>Powermac 6500
>Some old Powerbook, Pre G3
>A few Dell Dimension P4HT with DDR2 RAM, SATA HDD, and PCIe Video Card
>Dual Pentium Pro HP Server that was has big as a mini fridge
>Had a small desktop Compaq system that I think used a Cyrix cpu but it had a Voodoo pci card in it
>Some model of a Shuttle P4 System
>Some HP desktop that had a Core2Duo that I got as for payment for working on a laptop for a person
>A custom built AMD Phenom II system
>2 different models of a Powermac G5
>Powermac G4
>Some Compaq Laptop that was an AMD Athlon x2 (God I loved that laptop after upgrading it)
>Some old 386 desktop system in a slim case, I think it was part of a POS system

I know that not all of this is retro and I think there is more to this list but can't think of them.

>>61390067
:(

I've found those Connor drives to be universally fucked. They've now got 200-300MB drives thanks to the ANYDRIVE extension.

>>61390004
>>61390071
might wanna take a look at this
http://toastytech.com/guis/misc4.html

>>61390075
They weren't standardised fully.
Sometimes the only way to connect them was to mount it so the data or power cables fit both drives.
Those drives where made mechanically to support being both ways.

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Any DECheads here?

>>61389807
There are millions of people out there who look at generic beige '90s clone shit with the same degree of indifference and even disgust as you see "shitty 00s computers", it's just the same old boring shit in a different color, that merely appeals to a different generation.

But it'll be desirable some day anyway, not just because of its age, eventual rarity or design/feature set, but because there will definitely always be someone out there looking to get their shitty Gateway system from their childhood back, or get their hands on the high-end gaming PC/workstation/whatever they always wanted but could never afford, not unlike you and the others who lust after the P4 Optiplexes of yesteryear that were tossed out in droves because everyone thought they were low-rent generic trash.

Hell, I love me some '00s shit, especially while it's cheap and I can get my hands on all of the cool expensive ultraportables, laptops, PDAs and desktops my parents would never buy for me for pocket change. There was about as much cool shit during that era as we had in the '90s and even beyond. It wasn't until just recently that things have really started to slow down as computers have finally matured and become more and more appliance-like.

>>61390137
I've never seen anyone mount one upside-down, but that brought back annoying memories of trying to get a cable long enough to flip upside-down in the middle to fit 2 drives in my case.

>>61390146
I fucking wish, dude. Is that yours?
Some day I hope to get my hands on an 8 or 11, the blinkenlights make writing shitty/simple programs so much more fun. At least there's a kickass simulator for OS X that I can mess with for the time being.

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>>61390117
I just remembered that I actually still have the hard drive from my one. When I try to power it up using an IDE adapter nothing happens through

>>61390007
Never seen an upside-down drive once and I've got myself a lot of shit. Sounds like a half-ass job to me more than anything.

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>>61390193

Indeed it is. It started out as an empty chassis, and took me perhaps 6 months to find the boards. (currently it's got 2 serial cards and 16KW [24KB] core) I just need a TU56 DECtape and a controller for my RX01.

Have you considered getting one of these?
http://obsolescence.wixsite.com/obsolescence/pidp-8

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>>61390117
>I've found those Connor drives to be universally fucked.

You don't even know the half of it.

>>61390201

Have you checked the molex connector?
Mine broke clean off from stress but was still held in place. It worked for a while after that, but it still had sticktion.

>>61390303
Colour me surprised.

>>61390055
There was one on sale locally a while ago.
It went to a ridiculous price, like 260€ or 280€, I just didn't think it's worth it.
Latter to only find out the guy who got it wrecked it and harvested the switches....

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>>61390273

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>>61390341

>>61390234
See
>>61390137
This was sometimes literally the only way to get it work when you didn't have other cables to use at hand and didn't want the drive dangling outside.

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>>61390117
>>61390303

LMAO
A Conner drive was my first HDD that had problems.

The fuck was wrong with that company?

>>61390308
There's power because it makes the slightest sound when powered on. Would I be able to open it up and transfer the platter to another drive to read the contents?

>>61390365
If I would have known that I would have bought it for even more.
Now I can't even get contact with the guy, I'd buy the broken machine. But it looks like he broke some of the plastics and shit.

>>61390413
why is their logo goatse?

>>61390413
>goatse
...

>>61390405
tr1nitr0n is that you?

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>>61390413
>>61390443
>>61390450

>>61390378
Hmm, I could see it I guess, I think I've had it happen to me before with some 3.5''/5.25'' dual setups now that I think about it, but usually I can come up with a longer cable when that happens. Can't stand the look of upside-down stuff and operating a 5.25'' floppy drive like that just sounds weird.
>>61390393
I wouldn't imagine so unless you had another working drive of the same model. I'd imagine the control logic/firmware on a drive is specifically tuned for the platter that's supposed to be in it.

But maybe not, I've never tried it.

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>>61390475

>>61390273
That's some good shit, do you run it at home? I've always wondered how well they play with residential power sources.

As far as kits go, I have seen that one, it's pretty cool looking. Personally I've been interested in this 6120-based SBC: http://www.sparetimegizmos.com/Hardware/SBC6120-2.htm

Or even just trying to find a DECmate, probably wouldn't be easy to rig blinkenlights onto either, though.

>>61390393

Maybe, but I'd suspect it's stiction on the read head.

Try manually freeing it with the drive powered, you might have to move it again after the self test if it gets stuck in the landing zone again.

>>61390341
>to only find out the guy who got it wrecked it and harvested the switches....
Why the fuck would they do something so retarded when they could just buy a full keyboard even just a broken one and pull the shit out that way? My Toshiba shit isn't even that great. They feel like any other mechanical switch to me.

I hate mechanical keyboard hipsters so fucking much. What a bunch of pieces of shit.

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>>61390532

Yup, it's in a 4x3 meter log cabin in the garden at the moment.

As for power, not bad at all.
(Pic related, that's the 8/e, Thinkpad, and lighting, on a 240v supply.)

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>>61390551
Alright I got it open, now what?

>>61390077
At least you didn't trash them, and helped revive some busted ones in some cases.

>>61390532

SBC-6120 is good, there's a respin of them down at retrobrewcomputers.org (the original maker has retired I think)

You'll probably have to make your own blinkenlights board though, unless they've started making new ones by now.

I'd personally go for one of those over a DECmate because they fucked with OS8 compatibility to some degree.

>>61390652

Do the platters and heads move freely?
If not, just give them a wiggle and see if it'll start.

>>61390682
The platters move freely. When I power it on the little arms try to move, but they seem like they are stuck. I tried wriggling then but it doesn't help

>>61390621
Nice. I didn't think the 8 would suck up too much, I guess it's when you've got a ton of stuff running at once that it really starts giving you shit about it.

I'd love myself a simple single-rack setup some day with a disk pack, paper tape and maybe a VT-52 rather than a teletype. They seem pretty damn fun to mess with. Don't hold out too much hope of finding any over here, though, I have a feeling we missed out on the minicomputer age for the most part.

>>61390716

Is there a solenoid to release the heads?
I can't even tell if that's a voice coil or stepper motor from that pic. It's not the same as the shitty single platter drives I've tried this on.

>>61390739
not him but I think those Conners are steppers
but I'm kind of interested to know now, they're old as fuck but still kind of in that transition period

>>61390739
>>61390796
Well I found the problem, a tiny screw had come from somewhere and got jammed between the magnet and the head arms. They move freely now. However I accidentally ripped through the cabling so it's fucked now. Very sad, I wanted to image it and get my old files ;_;

>>61390719

>I guess it's when you've got a ton of stuff running at once that it really starts giving you shit about it.

The only annoyance is that I'm using a step-down transformer, and the inrush current sometimes trips the breaker. Otherwise there's not a lot to worry about, as I've had that, an 11/34, Altair 8800, and 2 XTs running at once. I think they drew about 5-6 amps together?

>Don't hold out too much hope of finding any over here, though

Where abouts are you?
I'm a Britfag but managed to get the 8/e shipped from NJ to LA for about $50, and took it home in checked luggage without any issues.

>>61390839
Eesh. Swap cable from another drive?
It's probably getting pretty dusty by now though...

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>>61390907
I'm pretty sure its dead now. There's a big magnet inside which I will keep as a memento, but the rest is for the bin now.

>>61390877
Idaho, there's actually a shit ton of tech here but it mostly started picking up in the late '70s with Micron and HP, I haven't seen anything going that far back yet.

But then again, there's a few hoarding sites that I've come across or missed out on. I know one guy that's hiding a working PDP-5 and god knows what else in his warehouse, and I keep forgetting to pay him a visit on my days off...

I couldn't imagine trying to fly with that shit though, how did you manage to pack it to take it as checked luggage? Those things look huge.

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>>61390952
Keep the platters and make your dick a Saint of the Church of Emacs

>>61390952
I'd keep the platters too, man, they're nice and shiny and easy to display on a desk or something if that's your thing.

>>61391064

Wait, is the Saint Ignucius hat made of an old hard drive platter?

>>61391047

Dunno about Idaho, but you might be able to find a PDP-11 at a CNC shop, university, or hospital?

>I couldn't imagine trying to fly with that shit though, how did you manage to pack it to take it as checked luggage? Those things look huge.

I took the PSU out and put it in a suitcase, put the front panel in my backpack, and screwed a few pieces of pallet wood to the chassis to strengthen it and had it professionally boxed. I think it cost me about $100 to get it back to England, which was a steal compared to having it shipped. (the customs charge alone would've cost at least 4 times that)

I think it weighed about 100lbs (PSU was 45), and is a 6U full length rackmount.

>>61390667
That's neat. I didn't know that about the DECmate, either, is it some firmware fuckup or hardware-related? I'm not even sure where you'd begin to find software to run on one of those, anyway. I think they mostly just ran WPS-8 and that was it.

>>61391384
Damn, I guess it sounds doable though.

As far as finding stuff goes, my university was mostly running IBM systems and cleared out a lot of their stuff (have a few 3278s with the logo burned into them) but CNC shops/hospitals are definitely an option, maybe I'll keep an eye out.

There's also a national laboratory too that might send up surplus from time to time, maybe I'll get lucky some day.

>>61391404

http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/academic/computer-science/history/pdp-8/fromjb/

Some of these threads should shed some light on it (assuming I'm remembering the right page)

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how long until x200 becomes retro? ;_;

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>>61390071
Man, hardly anything I used in NT 4.0 works in 3.51. Not even the D+ Browser, the 7-Zip GUI or Opera 7-10. Opera 6 works, but can't access any website.

Also, the NewShell runonce.exe icon is a barcode covered in blood.

>>61391879
10 years

>>61391899
>Also, the NewShell runonce.exe icon is a barcode covered in blood.

I think the "blood" is the laser from the scanner which is spreading a bit. At least I think that was the intention. It would've been more obvious if it was a line and not "splattered".

>>61391899
However, Far Manager 1.7 and tcc 0.9.26 work just fine.
>>61391999
That's the most reasonable explanation.

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>>61392262
Forgot the screenshot.

>>61391514
Now I see, that's a little fucked up, and interesting.

Can't say I wouldn't still snag one if I could, though. Hell, as long as it can run a compiler or interpreter of some kind I could probably have some fun with one.

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>>61373779
adorable

>>61375053
>file is not compatible with the version of Windows you're running
How does my pc know what version of Windows I'm running?

>>61392373
Those disks are so NICE. Especially when you have to fish them out of slot loaders.

>>61375053
>>61392395
Top fucking kek.
Fail error, it literary says it can't run it but then it dosen't know if it's 32 or 64 bit.

>>61358026
Has anyone ever installed a CF card in their retro machines? If so, what's the speed difference compared to the original HDD?

>>61393281
Yes, several, it's nice. Only machines with PATA/IDE controllers though. As CF cards are native ATA.
It can easily max out the transfer speed of the controller if we are talking older machines here.
Most of the speed comes for the instant seek time.

>>61393281

Yep, I run almost all of my machines off CF cards.
I get a marginal improvement when it comes to battery life on my portables and better I/O speeds across the board.

>>61368463
What monitor is that?

>>61393472
>>61393522
Since a CF card functions as an SSD, I'm guessing you have to disable the swap file as well.

>>61393608

You can, but I haven't had any of my CF cards develop faults yet, and I left my swap file on.

>>61393647
How long have you had them installed and how often do you use those machines?

>>61388567
Weren't the build quality on Amstrad's stuff really shit?

>>61393667

3-4 Years, and they get used for a few hours a week.

MS-DOS and Amiga Workbench don't have a swap file so its ideal for those machines, my Win98 laptops obviously do and are still fine.

>>61393708

Yes, and the Sinclair gear took a dive after Amstrash bought them.

>>61358049
Looks pretty awesome. Well designed. I want a headphone jack on my monitor fuck.

>>61393608
No, modern flash memory can be written so many times, it will take seriously long time, like years of constant usage, for it to be a problem.

>>61393716
>Amiga Workbench
Unless you are running Workbench 1.0-3.0, then what you are referring to as Amiga Workbench, is actually just a file manager, Intuition being the window manager/desktop environment.
It's AmigaOS that both run on.

r8 my autismo guys

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>>61393914
Tossed the computer from this pic in the trash today. Had to keep something from it though!

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>>61394109
>Tossed the computer from this pic in the trash today

>>61393914
>>61394109
You tossed away the wrong thing

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>>61394109
>E8400
I got an E8500 in one of my machines.

>Pic related is from over a year ago, before the machine started having issues.

>>61394159
>>61394166
What was worth keeping in your mind?

>>61394208
All of it.

>>61394211
Should have added "and why?" to that sentence.

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Does this count as retro?

>>61394234
More like why not?

>>61394248
Takes place and prevents getting to said place with the vaccum cleaner for the last 5 years or so! Barely enough horsepower to do anything i need done, and no, parents are already on ivy bridge for their browsing needs.
No one here pays more than the ad fee for these things.

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>>61393914
>>61394109
Found the first picture after building the thing, painted the case later for the picture and the PSU gave up sometime before that and was replaced with a first gen Corsair HX.

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>>61358026

>>61394322
>No one here pays more than the ad fee for these things.
That changes if you hold on to them long enough. The shit I hold on to was worthless 10 years ago, now it's paying off.

>>61388720
holy shit where did you get that

>>61394674
What sort of old pc system was that? Becouse here you still have to throw away most everything after the first pentium unless you can sell a complete system. No one wants nor need old shit that can be emulated or run on current systems!

We did sell our old Nintendo real cheap back in the day though and might have lost some money on it, to an family friend that at the time had a broken leg and was confined to bed. He was a beast at the first 3 mario games after that!

>>61394864
I've been selling off a lot of 486 and Pentium Pro era shit lately.

>>61394978
Where are you located? Big issue with it, live in a small place no one wants your old shit.

>>61394864
What are you talking about, Voodoo cards, Sound Blaster cards, all of them go for big bux.

>>61395139
Sweden, and to far away from most people to bid more than 30bucks for anything.

>>61395160
Voodoo cards go for less than freight here still. Bet 1000s of those cards went to scrap.
Soundblaster even worse so, everyone wanted Roland cards here!

>>61395384
Voodoo 2's and AWE64's go easily for 70 bucks.
Same with Roland and GUS cards. But those are already 486 territory, we are talking post Pentium as I understood.

>>61395470
70 bucks is at best twice the cost of the advert, add to that the cost of time to contact the buyer and doing said deal.

I would just shuck it into the pile of trash and no bother at all. Enough of all that shit still for entousiasts!

>>61395139
North East USA.

>>61395514
You don't know what resellers are, do you

>>61381608
Linux desktop died when kde4 came out. Incohesive garbage.

>>61391879
It's already retro. I fucking love that computer (the tablet version).

>>61394450
haha hiper psu

>>61390007
That's horseshit. If you mounted your drive upside down you got shamed for it. Didn't matter if it worked fine or not, it made you look like an absolute goon and that was reason enough to bully.

>>61389835
>>61389867
Was gonna say... Top one's lights are way too bright.

>>61397401
don't know what shitheads you were friends with

>>61389982
>NT 4.0, 2000 and XP (with the classic theme) are the only comfy versions of Windows

XP was initially received even less favorably than Vista or 8 were, and not because of the fisher price Luna UI.

On release it needed at least 256MB of RAM before it would run in a manner less painful than sounding your own dick with a rusty nail, or 512MB for it to actually be smooth. This was in an era where 64-128MB was the norm in a PC.

>Click start menu
>GRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRIND blank menu opens GRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRIND gradually fills up with icons
>Right click shortcut
>GRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRIND context menu pops up
>Click properties
>GRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRIND properties menu pops up
>forget what the fuck you wanted to edit and close properties menu
>GRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRIND menu closes
>do fucking anything
>GRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRINDGRIND

>>61365726
TETSUOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>61397708
I recall people had the same issues with Vista on launch. Fortunately, I had pretty beefy computers during both eras, and had no issues. These days I use Linux, so I care even less about hardware requirements.

>>61397779
>I had pretty beefy computers during both eras

Definitely a rarity for XP considering Intel was shoving RDRAM down everyone's throats at the time.

>>61397842
If I'm remembering correctly, I had a K6, then a P4 system at the time.