Where were you when Microsoft saved the Linux Desktop?

OP here disregard that I suck cocks

>>61339912
>1 review
>4 stars

>>61339921
Good advice thanks

>>61339942
>linux desktop is still mediocre no matter what you do to it
kek

>>61340336
The next release is getting gnome. They are dumping unity. I think it's also going to have wayland by default as well.

Congrats to Linux. It's now where windows was in 1995. Now it only needs proper applications and an update system that doesn't break.

Well actually it needs a whole new kernel. A nice micro kernel, Because lets be real here. Putting drivers in the kernel is just kinda dumb.

Needs binary apps too. Get rid of those awful packages and use binaries like a white man. Theres no point in having packages that depend on other packages that are 800mb in size but you have to have it because some obscure package somewhere requires it.

So basically just scrap the whole shitty system and start over again.

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>>61339912
Windows 10 gives me nothing but headaches.
Everything in that system is complete and utter shit.
>bluetooth hell
>the installing/uninstalling of software
>updates that take over 2 hours on a modern gayming machine with SSD and all that shit.
>sound configuration
>2 bloody settings
>explorer.exe
>fuckin' notepad!
>telemetry
>automatic installation of drivers which requires you to log into their "cloud".
>countless background services.
>ads all over my paid system.
It's all SHIT.

In conclusion: POO

>>61340484
>they're fucking up that much
>Windows is getting opensuse and fedora
2017 is weird

>>61340484
>Putting drivers in the kernel is just kinda dumb.
Agreed. I still love linux though.

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>>61340488
>he can't use notepad
>he has slow ass internet and he blams that on W10
>he complains about uninstalling software (I think he doesn't understand computers)
>2 settings panels make his little head hurt
>drivers in the cloud
The fuck? Since when did drivers come from OneDrive or some shit?
>he doesn't know how to get rid of ads with literally 3 clicks of a button

This is so fucking autistic, I would be suprised if you could even get a Linux OS fucking installed and not wipe your whole partiton table you autistic fucking waste of space. Go back to a macbook.

t. Linux user

>>61340654
>having plank in plank
are you retarded?

>>61339912
>E for Everyone

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So this is FINALLY the year of LINUX ON [spoiler]windows[/spoiler] DESKTOP?!!

>>61340488
I don't use Windows as my main OS and I can even tell 90% of your post is bullshit

>>61340484
>Needs binary apps too. Get rid of those awful packages and use binaries like a white man.
Gone full retard.

>>61340746
Why doesn't the spoiler work? Fuk this shit

>>61340796
Welcome to /g/, install gentoo and lurk more.

>>61340796
you need to be running the linux subsystem on windows to get spoilers to work

>>61340484
>it's in 1995.
It's been ahead of Windows in many ways, for years, until W10 was released.

>update system that doesn't break
Pretty much every mainstream distro won't break through updates.

>remove drivers from kernel
Since every piece of hardware has so far worked for me, I can't complain about this.

>needs to replaced packages
A lot of software is installed through an sh "exe" "alternative" which usually bundles dependencies. Also appimage exists.
So if you're a normie, installation of shit is pretty easy nowadays.

>>61340488
>anime pic
Opinion discarded

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Not even the awesomeness that is GNU/Linux can save Windows.

>>61339912
Embrace, extend, and extinguish

Look it up. This is what Microsoft does when they want to off competition. Satja must be upset customers are moving to Linux over his botnet

>>61342618
Actually he's just giving devs less of a reason to use the alternatives when they could develop on their current OS. He nor anyone at microsoft could give a fuck about consumers, they're stuck with windows regardless unless they pony up 1.5k for a laptop.

>>61342596
>windows need to be saved
huh hu hu

>>61342618
>Satja must be upset customers are moving to Linux over his botnet
>Embrace, extend, and extinguish
Actually he's the one who made that shit come back. They weren't doing this under the fat autistic CEO

>>61340484
>Theres no point in having packages that depend on other packages

you know windows programs depend on other programs too, right?

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>>61340484
>2010 called :^)

>>61342670
As in redemption and salvation from the fires of Hades.

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>>61340654
>>he can't use notepad
How do you justify it not being able to edit text files properly with UNIX line endings?

>>he has slow ass internet...
No, see, Windows downloads the updates while I use them. So there is no problem there. The problem is the time it takes to apply those patches. And to make things worse, while it does so, the OS is rendered unusable.

>>he complains about uninstalling software
Yeah, because having to wait 1 minute to uninstall NVIDIA Experience is not understanding computers.

>>2 setting panels make his little head hurt
It doesn't. It's just dumb. I get the argument that it's for "backwards comparability", but it gets annoying when one of the settings panels don't contain all of the settings.

>>drivers in cloud
No, the driver is local. But to use it I must submit to their botnet and be loged in at all times.

>he doesn't know how to get rud of ads with literally 3 clicks of a button
Anon, I paid for a copy of Windows to use, not to tweak. Doesn't this invalidate the whole "works out of the box" argument?

>>This is so fucking aut-...
Senpai, trust me, I know partitions very well.

Yours kindly, A-waste-of-space.

>he typed all of that just to embarrass himself more

Apps from Window ecosystem + native Bash from Linux = heaven.

>>61343072
In anonymity, only a stupid person would feel embarrassed.

Any one here that runs w10 fine on linux kvm?

>>61340488
you mean linux right? right.

>>61343153
It's extremely slow
Dual boot

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>>61339912
I'd sooner inject myself with heroin than use anything Microsoft related.

>>61343188
It's not slow. Stop with this meme. You DID NOT make a KVM if your OS is slow. Either that or you're running both systems on the same hard drive.
This guy proves you wrong:
https://youtu.be/Ww2xpxkhitk

A pathetic attempt at relevance by microshit in panic mode over Linux now being able to fully virtualize windaids with GPU passthrough.

>>61343314
>GPU passthrough
>implying I play video games

Thank you, Anita Sarkeesian, for showing me the folly of the gaming ways. Never again shall I oppress the women and minorities by using anything Microsoft or Apple.

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>>61340484
>an update system that doesn't break

>>61343279

But did you try w10 on it?

I think it should be fine with pass-through but I haven't tried it yet.

>>61343183
>explorer.exe
>notepad.exe
Only a fool would run those on Linux, senpai.

>>61340488
>the installing/uninstalling of software
>updates that take over 2 hours on a modern gayming machine with SSD and all that shit.
>sound configuration
>2 bloody settings
These tbqdesufam. I never realized how shit windows was until I used linux for a while.

>>61343153
I vidya with GPU passthrough and 5820k. Gave the VM 4c8t, not even using core pining and it runs like it's on bare metal.

In a lot of ways it's even better than running windows bare, I can pause the VM with a game running and leave it for hours, then resume it like nothing happened. Make sure to set your virtual clock to drop missed ticks if you do this though.

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Windows 10 sure improved everything over Windows 8 :^)

>>61339912
My resources running linux have jobs. those are my children that grew up and can take care of themselves and I don't need to worry about them. Only little bitches fuss over desktops. I run DWM it's barely a desktop at all go out into the world and give back to people.

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>>61343745

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>>61343811
It's about the garbage metro style interface in general.

>>61343831
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X0Jz964UTwA

>>61342848
And said programs usually come with the necessary shit
In Linux however you need to scour the internet for hours and download 300 different packages that may or may not be compatible with each other just to run one thing

>>61343893
I don't care about fucking transparency if the UI design and element positioning is fucking dogshit.

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>>61344248
Lurk more retard

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>>61344295
>Having the reading comprehension of a preschooler

I'm already using Start8 which looks much better than classic shell. The examples I posted and what I talked about goes much further than the startmenu.

>>61344146
I've been running Linux for almost 4 years now. I keep reading nightmare stories like this but have yet to experience it. I wonder how the fuck this happens. I'd like someone to tell a complete story, with details.

>>61340654
>solus
he.

>>61347024
It might be that they've tried installing their software by manually finding the sources and dependencies (like you would on windows) and then compiling it themselves. All this because they bothered not read into package management.

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>>61340865
[spoiler]testing[/spoiler]

>>61340488
>>61343637
Just use chocolatey you useless tards.

>>61339912
you could get a bash terminal going in windows 15 fucking years ago anon

this is a literal nothingburger

>>61340484
Packages ARE binaries retard

>>61347024
If you find some bit of source code from 1978 in a tar archive it might need some obscure dependencies which you have to build manually and so on, but it'll work with some effort.

People seem to resent this, but in the old days it was unthinkable to run *BINARIES* on your nice Unix machine, you'd compile them with your special flags and maybe even your house compiler. Also much useful software was distributed in source code form only.

Kids these days have no idea what their OS was even built to do, or why it is set up the way it is. Linux is actually set up more like a typical multi-user Unix than say OS X, which is descended from a specially tuned workstation OS version of Unix.

Of course these days if you're running any mainstream Linux distro installing most any bit of software you can think of is as easy as slamming your forehead into the space bar if it's in your package or ports system.

>>61339912
Celebrating that I didn't have to give up my video games for a competent operating system.

>>61350723
scratch operating system, terminal is what i was looking for.

>>61342652
>Actually he's just giving devs less of a reason to use the alternatives
With using alternatives. Maybe devops can go without linux, but everything else still need the real thing.