/pcbg/ PC Building General

My mobo has all its sata ports used

how do I add more ports(like 2 or 4) that go the full sata III speed(not raid)

>>61332180
Nigger, I just answered your fucking question last thread.
Cheap LSI or Marvell HBA card. 1 or 2 SAS ports. PCIe Gen 2.0 x8 minimum.
Now fuck off cunt

>>61332135
Spoiler tag that fucking image, holy shit.

>>61332198
>spoiler
>on /g/
you need to head on back to /v/ you newfag

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>>61332195
w h a t t h e f u c k i s s a s

do I just fucking get one of those sas cables that have four sata cables at the end and link up my drives on them and put the sas end in some pcie fucker??

Make sure you use more acronyms to make it even more confusing

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9YwZyf
fucking Mobo I was gonna get jumped up $100 dollars,so now I need to find a new motherboard.
Please help me /g/

>>61332234
>haslel
>2017
wow are you dumb

>>61332226
HBA card with a SAS port
At least 8 lanes of PCIe Gen 2.0
SFF-8087-to-4-SATA adapter cables
I'm going to fuck your asshole inside out, fuckstick Don't turn this rape into a murder

>>61332242
[spoiler]I got the CPU for 100,plz no bully[/spoiler]

>>61332253
>[/spoiler]
back to the containment board
>>>/v/

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>>61332263
i'm sorry,I dont really use 4chan alot nowadays.

>>61332135
Wew, no 7700k, so you do still try after all?
I'll come back next thread as always

>>61332246
aight nigga so one of these

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16816118182

then one of these:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABU95SX2483&cm_re=SFF-8087-to-4-SATA-_-9SIABU95SX2483-_-Product

and so I plug that card in my comp, put the SAS cable in, and with the four dangling SATA cables on the other end. I can just hook up drives and SSDs and shit like any other drive and that's it? Those four SATA cables are my new fuckin new full-speed SATA cables that I can use for whatever i want HDD/SSD/fucking CD drive even? Any driver bullshit?(arch linux)

>>61332272

spoiler

best mobo for a Pentium g4600? preferably micro atx.

>>61332308
I'm impressed by the fact that you got the right cables, and not the wrong break-out cables

I'm still going to rape you, lil nigga

>>61332324
a ryzen

What's the performance like on Chromebooks? My laptop is dying and I need a new cheap one.

>>61332341
At worst, you can dualboot into linux.

Look up the specs, check some benchmarks/uses, and go to town.

>>61332324
Whatever is cheaper in your country.

Thinking about adding this
https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16816132035
To my Corsair 200r as an easy way to get another intake fan on the front and some expansion room. I'd probably change the fan.
Is this a terrible idea?

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rate my memey shit. Idk shit about good air coolers. Is this good for a gaming/image editing setup?

>>61332474
Also could I downgrade to the 1700 to save some cash? Idk if the 1080 ti is bottlenecked or not

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Any suggestions on a GPU or a different meme case? Plan on picking up an 850 evo for boot+ a few programs/games and another 2TB i have laying around.

Also if I go with a 1050TI should I just drop the 1600 to a 1400 so save some more bucks or is it that much better?

Suggestions on non meme ram would be nice as well, i'm open to 4x4x2 as this mobo has 4 slots as well.

I basically just want solid frames at 1080P and hitting high or above in games like Squad.

I have a mouse and keyboard already but am open to suggestions on a decent monitor as well in the $100 range.

>>61332492
i don't think any CPU released on current sockets can bottleneck a consumer GPU

>>61332474
Good case, I have one.
You'll struggle getting that cooler anywhere other than the front panel though, I have a single radiator cooler on mine and the only place I can fit it is at the front.

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>haven't seen an Intel build here for days
NOOOOOOO

wtf, some people even get R1700, which is nothing but overpriced trash

>>61332541
>what is celeron

>>61332600
nice bait

What is a good new motherboard? Old ones ports are failing

>>61332638
??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

delete this threaad

>>61332600
Get a job.

>>61332600
Yea this is fucked up. r/AMD shilling is real
I mean calling CPUs that require 3200mhz DDR4 sticks 'best value'? That's just wrong

Not technically /pcbg/ but I need a good VDSL/fibre for when I get it in October. Doesn't need to be amazing wirelessly (as I have the modem in my room and connect via Ethernet) unless a wireless card will net me better connections (doubtful).

Preferably something on the cheaper side, with the most focus on speeds via wired connection but still a wireless router also

>>61332669
His job is to shill for intel

>>61332600
maybe because intel is shit

Whats a good cpu/mobo combo for a NAS that will be up 24/7?

>>61332796
whatever consumes less power

hint: AMD

>>61332474
Why the fuck would you use a GTX 1080
Ti with a 1440p 144hz FREESYNC monitor?

Anon please

>>61332814
Fucking nigger, do you even know what a NAS is?

>>61332830
Network Attached Storage

if its on 24/7 you dont want housefire components

>>61332830
tryhard ledditor wants to stir shit up

they probably think that they know something because they post on r/AMD-pcmr all day

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>>61332877
>ITS THE AMD SHILLS
I FUCKING HATE AMD SO MUCH

>>61332622
>buying intel

>>61332830
I've seen some mini-ATX with integrated CPU recently, but they usually don't come with RAM so unless you got some RAM modules lying around, maybe you could try running your NAS from a cheap Android tablet, or a Raspberry Pi if you have the time and will to configure one. Personally I wanted to try both, I got an unused tablet and an Orange Pi but I never find the time to tinker with them.

I have a 970 and want to upgrade my processor. I was looking at the i5-7500 since it's only $200, kabylake, and seems to rank well on various websites. I'm not interested in over clocking. Does this seem like a good choice?

>>61333231
Nah, not when you can get an R5 1600 for the same price while being able to overclock both mobo and CPU and get a much better gaming experience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m

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Time to start building!

>>61333726
Looks good. I'm (un)patiently waiting for my parts to arrive.

>>61333726
what OS?

>>61333726
Is that the famous bintel baleron cpu?

>>61332135
Hi. Is the geforce gtx1050 ti a good card? Also, i have a amd fx6300, should i upgrade and if so what to? Is 8 gig of ram enough? Cheers

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>>61333726
Nice.

>>61334256
Yes it is a good card. Everything between 1050ti and 1080 is overpriced right now.
Read sticky for proc.
Yes 8gb is good. Upgrade only if you have the budget.

MSI GTX 1080Ti ARMOR 11G
For 650€, is it worth it?

Hi, I'm need a PC for rendering my architecture projects.
My budget is around $1k, I made a list: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ps6dQV

Also, I have an option to buy used
i5 2500k (3.3Ghz), Ram- 8gb, V\c r9 270 2gb, HDD - 1Tb for ~$400
Help me out, /g/

>>61332275
Agreed

>>61333726
God people doing budget builds gets my dick so hard. There's no fun in being l like "Oh wow yup those are all the highest end components so it can do all the things", there's fun in being like "Oh cool, a Pentium and a 1050Ti? What games is that able to run and at what settings? How much did you pay for that? What kind of case are you keeping such a cute little machine inside?

>>61332135
What's the best performing CPU for single threaded applications? 2 or 4 cores would be fine more than that is pointless as 90% of the computational work done by my FEA package is sequential and therefore single threaded. It will probably be paired to a mid range Maxwel based Quadro and I'm looking to keep the buget under £750 for CPU/MB&RAM.

>>61334927
The first and most immediate issue I see with buying a 2500k is unless you have a motherboard already buying a motheboard by itself is usually expensive as fuck given that it's an older CPU.

>>61335038
http://lmgtfy.com/?iie=1&q=intel+best+single+core+performance

Whoops, >>61335068 is for >>61335034

>>61334927
Get faster ram for Ryzen, 3000 or 3200 mhz. It makes a huge difference in performance. Beyond that, looks good.

The i5 2500k would only be good if you plan to use it as a separate PC for gaming. An old i5 would not be good for your workload.

>>61335038
Yeah, it's the whole package. meaning, it is a used PC. So, is ryzen 1600 that much better than i5 2500k?

>>61335080
Oh, ok, thanks! I'll do that!

Started coming into good money recently and was looking to upgrade my computer, thoughts on this combo?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.3555574

>>61335085
Doesn't look to much more impressive but I'm not a computer scientist, all I can do is read benchmarks.

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-2500K-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-1600/619vs3919

>>61335068
How remarkably helpful you are, you mother must be very proud of you.

what's the best way to check a drive for bad hdd blocks in windows.
I had one of my 2TB(internal) drives have a mechanical read error so I formatted it but I think I might have bumped it or something how can I make sure it's okay

>>61335034
Either a overclocked i3-7350K or stock 7700k would provide the best of the best single threaded performance
Other than that and you're getting lower frequency locked CPU which won't perform as well. Try to search for sales for the 7350k, maybe there's some left around.
You could also go for used or older hardware but it's a pain in the ass to get something good so it's up to you.

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>>61333726
>LGA 1150 CPU
>LGA 1151 Motherboard

>>61333726
That CPU uses a different socket from your motherboard, dumbass

send help /g/. I was planning to make a budget build with a G4560 but this one country keeps kicking my ass. It's now up to $80. Should I buy right now while some stores still sell it at $35 (I'm completing the build around 2017 Q4 when we finally move out of the city) or should I wait Ryzen 3 (Which will probably sell at around $110).

>>61333726
You fucked up

Is buying a laptop for rendering projects at home and at school a good idea?

>>61335377
>>61335371
the retard already has his pins bent

>>61335412
i got the unsealed g4560 for ~$33. it's bretty gud, stuck it in a ml08 case with 2x16GB ram and a samsung 960 250gb ssd

enjoy my blog :^)

>>61333726
I just got Done building my pc, it starts but there is nothing showing up on my monitor... idk what to do!
Specs: GPU: ASUS 1050ti
CPU: Intel pentium G3258
Mobo: Asus prime b250
1 Tb HDD and 120Gb SSD 8gb ram

>>61335554
this is a troll, right?

>>61335068
Only Intel, so AMD aren't worth looking it?

>>61335554
your cpu doesn't go into your mobo, not the same socket

>>61332135
Imagine you had to fix that, imagine the fate of the entire human race somehow depended on you being able to fix that socket up and make it work.

>>61335102
protip: userbenchmark is garbage
better check real-world application that you're actually going to use
also
>more than double multicore speed
>not impressive

>>61323618
Are the HGST or Hitachi refurbs solid drives? Some say they're loud.

>>61335635
No, i Am not a troll, I just got in to pc gaming and I wanted to build a pc..
>>61335679
I bought them in a package (mobo and cpu) on the website it said 4560 but on the box it says 3258... it kinda made a snap noise when putting it in... i bought it of a komplett... a big tech website in Sweden

>>61335675
AMD doesn't have the best single core performance. They're 9% worse than intel at it.But they have the best multi-core performance for the price, so it is worth a look. The best CPU value at the moment is the AMD Ryzen 5 1600, which competes with the Intel Core i5 7600 on price despite having more cores than the i5 and 3 times as many threads. performance-wise, the R5 1600 is closer to the Intel Core i7 7700k than it is to the Core i5 line up. keep in mine that i7 is $100 more expensive than the 1600.
If performance per dollar matters to you, AMD is king.

>>61335770
HGST make the best hard drives around. Only a retard would buy refurbished storage though. Better make backups, boy.

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>>61335782
>this entire post

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>>61335845

>>61335821
>HGST make the best hard drives around.
That's what I hear, but all I can find are refurbs or from a "reseller."

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Having looked at those Xeon slides, I can honestly believe that the Intel shill in here is Brian Krzanich himself.

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>>61335959

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It's currently cheaper to buy a pre-built PC, than it is to make it myself. Every GPU that hasn't been nailed down is overpriced as fuck.

LET THAT SYNC IN

>>61335779
>on the website it said 4560 but on the box it says 3258
what about on the CPU itself?

>>61336060
I didnt look

>>61336087
Show picture of cpu in the mobo or you are just trolling.

>>61335412
Ryzen 3 are rumoured to be quad cores. If you can wait, wait for it.
You might get an insane deal on R5 1400. I paired G4560 with a 8gig RX470. Can't run Hitman or BF1 without massive stutters. :(
If gaymen is not your objective then get it when it's $40~. There's rumours that Intel might cut its production tho because it's shafting i3s. G4560 is a good CPU for emulators.

>>61332474
gr8 build

>>61332827
probably because the g-sync version is $250 more expensive.

>>61336123
Here's a picture but I already put the heatsink on

>>61336262
nice

>>61332135
Does MS still give free upgrades to 10? If I have a laptop with Win7 can I use its code to boot win10 on a new comp?

>>61336276
Yes you can.

>>61336051
There aint gonna be no prebuilt with a decent GPU though.

>>61336216
So buy a RX 580 then??

>>61336483
I've seen several prebuilt deals over the past few days with 1060s, 1070s and 580s. All paired with decent CPUs and at very good prices, considering the current price of the graphics cards alone.

>>61332324
ASRock H110M R3.0

>>61336483
What are you talking about? There are prebuilts all the way up to titan slis

>>61336262
(You)

>>61336503
Surely he'll simply replace the 1080ti with RX580, like they're anywhere close to the same performance segment. Jesus fucking Christ.

>>61335422
There's that meme laptop that had mobile 6700k and an desktop 1080 on it, that would work but you also need a gasoline using power generator and ear mufflers for the noise.

>>61335422
No, bad and expensive idea. Buy a good desktop and a cheap laptop, set up remote access.

Building a home server:
Ryzen Pro 7 1500 ?
>limited ECC support, but less expensive and lower performance
or Xeon E3-1240 v6 ?
>higher performance and full ECC support, but more expensive

Got Windows Installing now on a real budget build that's gonna end up being a FreeNAS box. Asrock B250 and a Pentium 3.3ghz to go with it. Got 4 fairly used 6tb WD blue drives for free from my friend who does security work. This is more so a test run before I spend mine on better hardware and new NAS hard drives. Wanna just use it as a NAS/Media sever and if it works the way I think it will the B250 will be moved to my mountain house as a HTPC and i'll buy a SuperMircro board and new hardrives.

Only running windows right now to run some benchmarks just for fun

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What does /g/ think of this build? Do you have any suggestions to save some eurobucks, I still have the screens to buy....

>>61336483
Go look at a prebuilt with 580 vs building your own PC with a 580.

>>61337223
eliminate the cooler
change the Intel i5 7600k for an AMD Ryzen 5 1600
change the motherboard for an MSI B350 board, Tomahawk recommended.
Everything else is good. That should save you a few bucks while getting similar performance.

>>61337223
>i5

It's 2017 you fucking goy

>buy a pre-owned prebuilt gaymer PC for $600
>comes with an RX 470 4GB
>sell that shit for $400
>sell MSI B150 motherboard for $40
>sell 1x 8GB DDR4-2400 for $60
>sell i5-6500 for $100
>already made back my money and still have the case+PSU, the SSD, and the hard drive to sell
Thank god for miners

>>61337223
https://shop.hardware.fr/configurateur/9ce068093325c678acbd26bb330b887b
+
https://www.amazon.fr/Be-Quiet-BL047-Wings-Ventilateur/dp/B00ECWKE3A/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1499873622&sr=8-2&keywords=pure+wings
+ GPU & fan on materiel.net as both are cheaper in there

Result is something that performs betterin CPU intensive games / doesn't get nearly as big framedrops during intensive scenes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m
Plenty of futureproofing from both the fact that the CPU is 6 cores (has a lot of room left while playing current games so won't have any problem playing future ones) and that the hard drive is 2TB (also cheaper which is pretty weird, materiel.net shouldn't price this hard drive so high when it costs half, maybe you picked an entreprise model?), no need to overclock at the time being but always can if you feel the need to (so you can drop the cooler and buy one in a few years). PSU is of slightly better quality although similar pricing, efficiency and wattage.
As for the RAM, the reason it's priced so high (both the one you and i picked) is because it's Samsung B-DIE that has quite an easier time reaching high frequencies because of the quality. It's not really needed though, so you could save some 30 - 35€ by going for other kits and you'll most likely hit close or even identical speeds.

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>>61337223
>not even reading the OP
this is what >>61337453 told you but from the same site and with QVL approved ram

>>61337223
2800/3000 ram instead, 500gb ssd, buy hdd later, consider memezen 1600 (no cooler needed in that scenario)

Ryzen is actually good?

>>61337566
Neat price-performance ratio. Single core performance isn't the best but it doesn't matter much in most cases.

>>61337566
yes?

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What do you guys think? .

Going to be using this rig mainly for high-end gaming and tons of big photoshop files. Not sure what secondary storage I should get.

>>61337566
yes. You can't beat it for the price.

>>61337598
Don't see anything wrong with it. Faster RAM maybe?

>>61337598
Why not going for a 7800k?

>>61337598
>6800k
Why? The Ryzen 5 1600 has pretty much identical performance, doesn't require an aftermarket cooler, or an expensive motherboard. It does need fast ram though

>>61337598
>Tons of big photoshop files
>SSD
Nani

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>>61337621
>Why not going for a 7800k?

>>61337621
>>61337636
To be honest I never considered those, especially Ryzen. I'll look into those more before buying anything.

>>61337617
maybe

>>61337650
I'm currently deciding between a 4TB Western Digital or Seagate.

>>61337712
fuck off retard that doesn't answer the question by any mean
A 6800k under the same conditions is just as much of a housefire

>>61337712
>>61337737
Notice the cooler he picked before deciding to post.

>>61333726
Why do you have 600w PSU. Your system is never gonna pull more than 300 from the wall.

>>61337781
It doesn't matter as the heating problem for Intel chips for the vast majority of cases does not come from the amount of heat it produces but from it getting stuck between the IHS and the die. Don't post smug if you have no idea what you are talking about because it makes you look like a retard, you wouldn't have gotten any good boy points even if you had been right.

>>61337781
Notice he forgot the delid kit.

>>61337598
Go with a R7 1700 and good x370 board. Will cost you less and perform much better. You should probably also get the NH U12S instead, since Ryzen isn't a firehazard. Pretty sure noctua makes a special edition just for am4.
Get 3000mhz ram.
Get a g3 750w instead of g2 850w.
A single SSD won't be enough if you have "tons of big photoshop files"

>>61337954
>high end gaming
>photoshop
>1700
>perform much better
It won't

>>61337978
>he's never done editing before

>>61337839
>getting stuck between the IHS and the die
Don't post if you skipped the physics class.

>>61337854
>le_good_goym_reddit_image.jpeg
Have your (You)

>>61337978
he's getting either 1440p or 4k display, where in gaming 1700 performs the same as 7700k.

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I need some advice boys.

I was going to upgrade my CPU but looking at my mobo I realised there wasnt much I could upgrade with it so realised I had to upgrade that too. Problem is I'm inept at finding out what a decent mobo is. I plan on keeping the GPU and RAM (if I can) and PSU is a G550M. I inly realy use the one Pcie so lots of slots is not needed.

What advice you got senpaitachi?

>>61338039
>Don't post if you skipped the physics class.
That's some impressive argumentation
Next you're gonna tell me not to post either if i tell you that putting a fuckton too much of thermal paste prevents the heat from dissipating as well
You're a retard, don't post anymore

>>61338112
btw I have a buget to buy a whole new computer which I might just do depending on recomendations.

>>61338112

In practical terms all new cpus use DDR4 ram and that is NOT backwards compatible with DDR3 so you'll need new ram as well.

>>61338124
>literally shaking

The heat can't get """stuck""" you retard. It's still dissipated, although not as efficiently as it could be. That shitty thermal paste isn't an issue if he stays below 1.3v or stock, never has been, especially not with that cooler.

>>61338175
>alright so i'm perfectly aware that the heat transfer from CPU die to IHS is bad
>but the transfer from IHS to CPU heatsink can totally fix it!
No it doesn't you fucking retard, if it has shit heat transfer from die to IHS a good cooler won't fix this

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>>61338237
LITERALLY
SHAKING

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Here's my budget build, only gaming at 1080p.

Already have an RX470 to go along with this and a power supply + hard drive.

Should this be good enough for high - max for most games?

>>61338412
Oh I'm an Ausfag by the way so that's why the prices look steeper than they would in the U.S.

>>61338412
>only gaming at 1080p
jesus why

>>61338112
Guys, I need a new CPU and mobo, what do I get? Help me out here.

>>61337453
>>61337484
>>61337499
>>61337534
Thanks !

>>61338339
>Load
>Stress
What kind of shitty load is this?
61°C while being fucking stressed? Even my R7 1700 at 3.7GHz hits 65 - 66°C on a D15S during video encoding, and it's fucking soldered instead of having cum under the hood.
But exactly as i said, there is very little difference between the coolers. Now if there was a proper load on it instead of just running some garbage Prime95 with default "stress" test (Blend) or whatever shit they use that doesn't make the CPU do any work then of course it'd heat a fuckton more and the difference between the D14 SE and the 212 evo would be much, much bigger (and what it should be). Do you really believe there is only a mere 6/7°C difference between an NH-D14 SE and a 212 EVO at full load? If so you are very much braindead, those coolers have extremely different dissipating capacity. The fact that you're able to post this picture without realising that shows how ignorant you are.
With every post you send you make yourself look like a retard even more. I wonder how retarded the next one will be.

>>61336503
Are you fucking retarded?

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Some of these numbers look a little low
Is it time for a new PSU? or does hwmomitor just suck?

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>>61338458
I'm happy gaming on a single 24 Inch monitor.

I have a second 18 inch one that I only use in combination for video editing.

>>61336503
>amd gpu
>2017

Please stop with this. It's getting boring.

>>61338500
>What kind of shitty load is this
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Cases-and-Cooling/Air-Cooler-Roundup/Temperatures-Noise-and-Conclusion
>Do you really believe there is only a mere 6/7°C difference between an NH-D14 SE and a 212 EVO
Yes, and thermal paste can be 2-3 degrees of that.
https://www.overclock3d.net/reviews/cases_cooling/cpu_air_cooler_mega_test/39 (OCCT)
>garbage Prime95
The LinX test does generate higher temps, but not by much (10 degrees at most). Video encoding is lighter than those stress tests, at least on Intel chips.

Meanwhile, take a look at some more overclocking: http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/intel-core-i7-broadwell-e-6950x-6900k-6850k-6800k,4587-7.html

>>61338653
I rarely come to /g/, but why is it so relentlessly anti-AMD?

Intel wins for CPUs even though ATI got their shit together with Ryzen, but the GPUs have always been fairly comparable.

>>61332135
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming

It will bottleneck people at 144Hz, I paired it with a GTX1070. My GPU is never at full usage on 1080p and lowering the resolution doesn't affect framerate.

Change this unless you consider 60FPS high.

>>61338583
Download coretemp

>>61338711
Not anti-AMD, just tired of this resident NEET who keeps shilling AMD ITT at any hour of the day.

>>61338745
Well maybe that's because AMD has stepped up their game and are worth recommending? Fuck off.

Gonna put a fan in front of the hdd cage on my Corsair 200r. Should I go for a static pressure fan to help force the air through or will a standard air flow fan push enough air?

>>61338781
They are worth recommending and I'm doing so, too. Doesn't mean I have to agree with the nearly underage cuck OP who claims that an RX580 is faster than GTX1060 in all new games, across the board.

>>61338781
>recommends a 580 over a 1080/ti

Yeah they stepped up their game so much the 580 is better than a 1080 ti. I forgot, my bad.

t. 390 owner

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What should I replace my Mobo, CPU with that makes a noticable improvement without buying overpriced garbage?

>>61338830
That's true though. The 480 was on par with it.

>>61338874
Maybe look up an 1151 socket mb that supports ddr3, that plus a 6500 used possibly. Significant upgrade but switching out the mb, ram cpu is better choice overall.

>>61338719
It says best value, not best framerate
The 7700k is also usually right under it and to talk about 144hz but this specific remove it because he's a total sperg, and as this general is mostly newcomers you can't have the whole thread boycott a specific guy because he creates a shit thread: the newcomers will go in the first thread they see and bump it
Also, is your 1600 overclocked & has high frequency RAM?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YvrfBP

Buddy of mine asked him to pick out a build that doesn't break the bank and is easy to upgrade.
Is the 1400 a good chip?

Is an RX 470 4gb similar to the RX 570 4gb as the 480 is to the 580? Is XFX RX 470 Black 4gb a good buy if it is $200? With the death of the affordability of a G4560 ($80 now), I might go with a Ryzen 5 1400 and a gpu which is better than a 1050ti (I'm going to build near Xmas so prices may change by then)

>>61338933
Just go with 1600

Also consider dual channel memory, so either 2x4GB or 2x8GB (or just get the other 8GB later).

Drop Windows 10. If you need it, pirate Enterprise LTSB and crack it.

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>>61338955
>Is an RX 470 4gb similar to the RX 570 4gb as the 480 is to the 580?
Yes

>Is XFX RX 470 Black 4gb a good buy if it is $200?
Currently yes because prices are completely jacked up but during Xmas you should be able to get one at normal $170 price

>>61338874
the best upgrade you can do right now is to upgrade to Ryzen. So new mobo, CPU, and ram.
If budget is a concern, grab a Ryzen 5 1400, an MSI B350M Gaming Pro, and 8 GB of Corsair Vengeance ddr4 memory (2666 mhz minimum)

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I'm wanting to finally replace my corsair vx550w and antec 300 case. What should I be looking for in a power supply? There's just so many to choose from.

>>61338887
5-10% faster without overclocking the 1060? The RX580 is about 6-8% better than RX480.

>>61339001
grab a seasonic.
as to a case, join us in the future with an NZXT S340 or Phanteks Eclipse P400S

>>61338985
Honestly where I live buying during Christmas is terrible. Would honestly spend an extra $50 if it meant not waiting in a line for an hour or more just to pick it up.

>>61339001
Correct wattage, upgradability, reliability, efficiency and most importantly, it has to look cool :) p.s I recommend EVGA

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820215017

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147594

PCI express SSD or normal SSD? Which one should I get?

>>61339001
Superflower 550 to 600W or an EVGA.

>>61339036
>Would honestly spend an extra $50 if it meant not waiting in a line for an hour or more just to pick it up.
There is 0 stock of any 4xx or 5xx card right now because of miners. It should be completely over by christmas seeing as ETH already dropped value a fuckton two days ago

>>61339034
>>61339045
>>61339095
Cheers lads

>>61339088
for a boot drive, im assuming a PCIE would be good if you can afford it. If Its for games and stuff a average samsung sata would be good.

>>61338997
>an MSI B350M Gaming Pro
budget is not a concern, what proper ATX sized thing would you reccomend with reasonable price for performance?

>>61332501
Bump

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mwRbgL

This is for a client. He doesn't game (and if he does, it's really low impact stuff). He's a photographer who does weddings, parties, etc. Uses Adobe Photoshop and Sony Vegas. Always editing 4k video etc. I'm iffy on the video card. Sony Vegas is the only program that can really use GPU acceleration and from what I'm reading, Vegas isn't friendly to Nvidia. However this guy is talking about adding a 4k panel to add to his 2x24" 1080p monitors. So support for 3 monitors is needed.

>>61339088
>$115 for 0.5s difference in boot times
go sata.

>>61338977
Yeah I was going to tell him to get another 8GB later, but I don't think he'll need more than 16GBs ever so dual channel might be better.

>>61339143
No budget? Asus rog x370 crosshair or MSI carbon X370. Those are $200+ boards.

Otherwise the MSI mortar B350 or ASRock B350 pro4 are great boards. And avoid the Ryzen 1400. It's a worse performing 1500X for $30 less. Not worth bothering with. Shoot for a 1600 minimum.

>>61332501
>>61339150
you don't have much choice for gpu. if you can get 1060 for a good price then go for it. don't drop cpu to 1400, r5 1600 has the best price/performance

>>61339196
x370 is unnecessary unless doing multigpu

I'm currently using integrated graphics and looking for a cheap GPU to grab while holding out for prices to return to normal. Should I just go for a 550 or fork out more for a 1050 or 560 even though I'm just going to get rid of it afterwards?

>>61338926
Yep even chipped out for 3200mhz ram and did all the bios updates.

I had a 2600K before it and it overclocks better providing roughly the same performance but heats up the whole room since my AC is broken.

>>61339254
Or if you want overkill VRMs and more SATA ports. My buddy shelled put the extra cash for the ASRock taichi over the pro simply because 10 SATA ports vs 5-6.

I own the Asus rog X370 board because I always build overkill and sit on my system for as long as I can. Besides, if the guy says no budget, fuck it. Go top shelf.

>>61339267
Wouldnt it be more expensive to buy one now knowing you're going to throw it out soon instead of just getting the good stuff right away?

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are MSI Arctic boards memes? I really want to go with a black and white theme but I might pick the ASRock B250M Pro4 over the MSI B250M Mortar Arctic due to price. Also, this is the case.

So I tried watching some videos on youtube about it, but I can't understand safe overclocking. Specifically when no POST.

Is it not as easy at clearing the CMOS to POST again?

>>61339143
MSI B350 Tomahawk
MSI B350 Tomahawk Arctic (if you want a white/silver version)
MSI B350 Krait Gaming
MSI B350 Gaming Pro Carbon
Asus Prime B350-Plus
Asus B350-F Strix
Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3
Asrock AB350 Pro 4
Asrock Fatal1ty B350 Gaming K4

And any of the X370 boards should do, but B350 is the sweetspot for price/features. IMO, the best performing in that crop are the Asus Strix, MSI Carbon, and Asrock Fatal1ty, though they're all around $120 MSRP.
The best bang for the buck IMO is between $85 and $110

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>>61339153
Bump.

>>61339320
>>61339281
>>61339254
>>61339196
Thanks boys.

Got myself a Mac Pro 2008 for free
The GPU is shit, what can I replace it with? I hear my options are limited but what can I do

>>61339369
get a real computer

>>61339369
>but what can I do
nothing
This is what you get for buying an Apple product. Toss it in the garbage where it belongs and start from scratch if you want gaming

>>61336305
Microsoft is saying that's been over for a year. How do?

>>61339417
>for free
>buying

>tfw no mainboard manuel becuase it an old an oem pc part so i have to troubleshoot which pins comes where for the front panel

>>61339303
Thank you for asking the hard-hitting question. Probably, yeah. Or pretty much the same. I guess that answers that.

>>61332501
You can save a few bucks by dropping, but considering CPUs last a lot longer than GPU would I'd stick with the 1600
If you're not planning to upgrade period you can drop down though

>>61338483
post budget, purpose and location (even a general one would help)

>>61339454
>free
>good
pick one.

>>61339454
Don't expect a high attention span here.

>>61332421
Bump. This would probably look like shit, but I'd like to get 3 front intake fans.

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Looking to build a PC for my gf. I'd like something small (micro or mini ATX?). Her only considerations are that the case is colorful and she can play WoW and other games on it. She likes stuff like Mass Effect and would like to be able to play newer games at a decent 30-60fps on medium-high settings.

I'm giving her my old GTX670 2Gb so no GPU needed for this build.

I priced this out on newegg and then put it through pc partpicker. Not really sure if there are any glaring issues with it.

Am I overbuilding here? $500 seems expensive for her needs but maybe I just don't know shit about computers.

Also, I have I think two copies of Windows 10, one on my laptop and another on my desktop. Any way I can just use one of these for her PC and not have to buy another copy of the botnet?

pls respond

>>61332421
It claims to be for specific models of Rosewill products.
A brief check seems to be server drive housing.

>>61339540
here. fixed. Budget-wise, you were fine but you didn't pick the best parts for the money so I did.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vbsChq

>>61339540
toss the i5, there are better alternatives, read the sticky. Ryzen comes with good stock cooler too, should save you some g's.
also came across this mATX case while browsing
a while ago, your gf might like it:
https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=sst%20sg13p

>>61339540
>she would like to be able to play newer games at a decent 30-60fps on medium-high settings.
>I'm giving her my old GTX670 2Gb
Anon please. GPU is the most important components of gaming PC, don't skimp on it. Toss that 670 into a bin, that's where it belongs.

Also read the sticky: either downgrade to g4560 (recommended) or switch to ryzen 5 instead. With ryzen you'd get a decent cooler too so no need to buy that seperately.

Could save a few bucks by picking a cheaper SSD too.

>Also, I have I think two copies of Windows 10, one on my laptop and another on my desktop. Any way I can just use one of these for her PC and not have to buy another copy of the botnet?
They are most likely OEM licenses, so you can't directly install them on another PC. You could do a microsoft account and register the license to it, but then your gf would have to keep herself logged in with that botnet account.

>>61339540
>>61339637
Also unless she's dying for boot/load times times she might appreciate a slower but larger HDD.

>>61339634
So you don't think it would into any 5.25 space? I've looked for a plain fan adaptor and haven't been able to find one.

>>61339747
At least one of the reviews claims to have mutilated their case to mount it, and another recommends not going for it if your case won't support it outright. And good luck figuring that out.

Your original post makes it sound like you value the intake fan over the expansion it would provide.
Consider external enclosures.

>>61339454
DID YOU PIRATE IT?!?

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>>61339637
>>61339639
>>61339652
>>61339683

Good replies guys thanks for the info.

I came up with this. Much cheaper.

As for the GTX 670 it is definitely showing its age but runs modern games on high settings at 30-60fps when connected to an i5 3570k and 16gb of ramz. Should work ok for her, but I'm definitely ready to move on to higher resolutions and framerates.

>>61339981
Might be able to save a bit more if you punch your shit into a calculator and drop the PSU a bit.

I don't know about B&H and OutletPC but Superbiiz does not provide free shipping, I think their cheapest is $15 for UPS ground. Try to find a promo code, at least. I was able to save $10 with one.

What's the best processor I can get that will fit an LGA1156 slot? I'm using a i5 750 currently, and both it and my motherboard are ancient.

>>61332135
I guess we're back at removing the 7700k for 144hz.

>>61340178
it's only one guy

>>61340173
i7 960 or something like that, but only if it's very cheap. You can overclock nicely on this platform.

>>61339981
drop the cooler. The Pentium comes with the same cooler as the i5, but since it's a locked pentium, it cools it just fine. no need for an aftermarket cooler.
And at least grab a 1 TB HDD
And change that case. I like how DIYPC cases look too but they aren't well built. Grab a different one. like a legit mATX case. That case there still supports full size ATX motherboards.

>>61339893
>Consider external enclosures.
For my hdd? And then rip out the hdd cage? Only so much is easily removed. I was hoping to bring cool air in the top as well for the cpu.

Kind of a dumb question, but the case I want to get (Define 5) has two USB 3.0 slots on the front panel, how are they going to be connected to motherboard? Do I need to make sure it has some special connector or something?

>>61340025

I'm gonna look into that, thank you.

>>61340277

I wasn't aware of that. So it's 'locked" meaning (i assume) it cannot be overclocked?

This is my first time building a PC so I had no idea that CPUs come with coolers. kek.

>>61340363
>So it's 'locked" meaning (i assume) it cannot be overclocked?
correct. With Intel, only CPUs ending in a K or an X are overcockable.
Pretty much all AMD processors are overclockable though. All the Ryzen and FX chips are unlocked.

>>61339981
You don't need a 620W PSU for that build including GTX 670. You could manage with 450W-550W

>>61334256
I would go 16gb honestly. 8gb is barely enough and can cause stuttering bullshit in some games even at 1920x1080.

>>61334747
No the Armor has an inadequate cooler for the 1080/Ti. It happens to have the same PCB as the gaming X but a shit cooler. You could replace it, of course, but if you can just get one with a better cooler like the ROG Strix or Aorus or SC2/FTW3 then you should

How well does a Ryzen 5 1600x play with 1080ti? 1080p (Yes memes) and 1440p in the future for me, so I realize the CPU will perform better in 1440p

I'd buy an aftermarket liquid cooler regardless, but I heard the 1600 both clocks better and comes with a stock cooler
And excuse me for sounding retarded for a moment here, but is the 1600x overclocked already? I have an i5 4670k and that overclocks easy peasy through reboots, it basically has built in overclocking options
For 1600x do I need to adjust the voltages or anything manually or is it easy peasy overclock on bootup selectable as well?

>>61340330
You connect them the same way you connect the start button to the mother board.

>>61340493
>1080ti
madman

>>61340493
The x is the same chip but better binned so runs at higher clock by default. It's the same as how Intel's ranks work.

>>61340493
If you're going with a liquid cooler and all that then you should just get the 1700/1700X. At that point you've already put a lot of money into cooling that is somewhat wasted on the 1600X--not entirely but enough that you can easily justify bumping up to the 1700/1700X.

Yes the "X" models are clocked higher but according to reports they are binned a bit better but obviously there is still plenty of uncertainty in OCing anyway. You may have to adjust voltages and whatnot depending on how high you're going but so far we haven't seen much difference in OC potential between Ryzen types (3/5/7). It can OC on boot like any other CPU as it is set in your BIOS.

And Ryzen plays just fine with a 1080 Ti so no worries there.

Which 16 Gb (16 is enough, right?) will get me the best chances of hitting 3200 with Ryzen? G.Skill Flare, since they're "made for Ryzen"? I know Tridents have that B-die too, and they look better IMO, but some people report having problems with those.

>>61340606
Ah great, 3.6 is solid for a 6 core. Would you happen to know how overclocking is on this one? 4670k made it as easy as just selecting the option on bootup

AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU isn't going to have my computer want to kill itself like white blood cells murdering itself right

will there be any EPYC desktop ATX board or rather not? Looks like a nice platform to build a new PC.

Something like:

>32 core EPYC
>128 GB ram
>4 x 2 tb ssd raid 10

and then I'm fine for the next 10 years again. My current desktop is from 2006...

>>61340665
If you win the silicon lottery, you can get to 4.0/4.1 Ghz. otherwise, it'll max around 3.9
Ryzen chips aren't all that good at overclocking. And they're voltage limited, not temp limited like Intel.

>>61340665
>AMD CPU and Nvidia GPU isn't going to have my computer want to kill itself like white blood cells murdering itself right
I have had nvidia gpu and AMD mobo and cpu for over a year now and have had no problems.

>>61340631
I appreciate the response, thank you very much. Alleviated a lot of my fears with this post

I was looking at the 1700x as well but I'm not sure if I can justify that many cores, 6 is fine for my main concern being gaming and the single core ghz .2 drop from 8 to 6 concerns me

>>61340655
What board do you have? After the latest AGESA update I've found it much easier to hit higher frequencies. So I think you should be ok with the Tridents but it's best to check with your board QVL or even an enthusiast forum.

>>61340708
The differences between the 1600 and 1700 in gaming are minimal, if they can be found at all.

Unless you are compiling shit or rendering, I would say stick with the 1600. If a couple of years from now more cores starts to matter, the AM4 socket will still allow you to throw in a newer CPU with more cores then.
It's a better plan than purchasing the cores now and have them be useless/near useless for the foreseeable future.

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Does anyone here have a Corsair 100r silent case? The fan on the back won't spin even though it's plugged into the power supply

>>61340754
2 additional cores are not useless, even just multitasking in Windows/Linux will ramp up multiple cores easily unless they are parked. My main workstation at work is a 12-core Xeon machine and going home to my 6-core Intel is really quite noticeable and I don't even game on the Xeon.

>>61340732
I was aiming for MSI B350 Tomahawk. It does have Tridents on QVL, the weird thing is, it doesn't have made-for-Ryzen Flares (F4-3200C14D-16GFX) there, for some reason. I guess I'll go with Tridents and update my BIOS and hope I don't get hit by a power outage while it's updating.

When do you want to overclock your CPU?

>>61340809
It's just being silent

>>61340830
>even just multitasking
The differences in general desktop "multitasking" (whatever that use case means) is even smaller. In that scenario RAM and storage bottlenecks usually mean more than another 2 CPU cores.

Not that it matters anyway. He wants to do gaming, not "multitasking", "megatasking", or whatever you'd prefer. Benefits of R7 over R5 are minimal and often nonexistent today. Bad buy in 2017.
By the time those threads matter, newer CPUs with more IPC and faster clocks will have been developed. No point in making an investment now when he can upgrade in 2-4 years and have better performance.

>>61340870
The original point of overclocking was to get a cheap CPU to perform as well as a faster, more expensive CPU. It was popular originally in the 90s with Intel Celerons since you could make them perform like much more expensive Pentiums.

But those days are long gone since Intel locks most of their CPUs and you pay a premium to be able to overclock now (likely because being able to overclock on cheaper CPUs cut into their profits since people weren't buying the more expensive CPUs). But AMD offers overclocking on all the FX and Ryzen chips. You can make a R5 1400 perform like a 1500X, a 1600 perform like a 1600X, or a 1700 perform like an 1800X since they overclock.

>>61340945
Thanks man.

At the moment I'm interested in an AMD R5 1600
Say I was only interested in gaming on my new computer, how much would it differ, perfomancewise if I chose to overclock that CPU?

My graphics card fan spins for a few seconds and then stops when I turn it on. What's happening?

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>>61341041
>>61341041
>>61341041
pretty much confirms coffee lake is set to be a failure

>>61341059
Does the PC crash or turn off then? Are you still getting a signal to the monitor? If yes, that's probably the cards natural fan curve. Many cards both AMD and Nvidia have "fan stop" technology. Literally the fans just stay off until the card hits 60C and then they'll kick on. My old R9 390 used to do that.

>>61341120
Oh phew. It still gets a signal to the monitor and it's Nvidia. I was worried there for a second

>>61341009
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZjOx3iimr8

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Already made a thread about this, forgot about the general. I'll post here too.

i5-3570k vs FX 8350?

A friend who owes me money is offering his comp as payment. I think I'll take it, but my question is if I should replace my current FX 8350 with the i5 he's giving me, or keep the FX 8350 and sell the i5?

>>61340934
Totally wrong and oblivious. You're literally talking out of ignorance when I can personally attest to their benefit from daily use. Talking about RAM bottlenecks has to be a bad joke as well. Also it's hardly an "investment" to spend an extra $50 on a CPU.

>>61341153
thanks m8

>>61341168
totally up to you. The i5 will have better single-threaded performance and better IPC, which is what most game use at the moment, though more are switching to multi-threaded workloads. If you do productivity stuff, keep the 8350. Otherwise, the i5 isn't a bad swap.

>>61341090
doubt coffee lake will use their mesh shit
if it doesn't then it's essentially a 7700k with two more cores

>>61341168
Doubt you'd get a very good price out of an i5 so using it might be wiser

Fucckkk just finished my build and am now realizing I need a wifi adapter

>>61341309
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G4H323/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwdn4800

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tJBHgL
I'm sticking with the stock cooler for now but I want to get a water cooler of some sort. Not sure if I want to try a full custom loop but at the same time, I don't know if AIOs are any good (they all seem the same to me since most are made by the same company).
Also considering a small NVMe to use as a scratch disc, is that a good idea? How small would be too small?

My 9 year old pc just died, and I'm really confused as to what kind of cpu and gpu i want to get. I want it to be as futureproof as possible. I'm torn between Ryzen 7 and i7. I'm reading around google and there have been some (few months old)reports of bugs with the ryzens but i'm not sure if they still hold?

Also even though I know how to build the pc I'm not very up to date as to what is good and what is not - any hints on what i should focus on?

Here's what i'm thinking about
cpu: Ryzen 7 1700 or i7-7700
gpu: nvidia 1060(does brand matter?)
mobo: does it matter as long as it's the correct socket?


Thanks guys.

>>61341456
Ryzen holds longer because of upgrade path, Intel doesn't have any current living platform. For gpu, wait because of mining.

>>61338711
>/g/
>anti-amd
did you just come out of a 5 year coma?

>>61341594
also worth noting that Ryzen doesn't have integrated graphics, so a GPU is mandatory

>>61341456

>gpu: nvidia 1060(does brand matter?)

For pascal based cards brand is most irrelevant - pick the card with the best warranty and a decent cooler.

>mobo: does it matter as long as it's the correct socket?

We can't asnwer that without knowing what your needs are. Put it this way I don't need most of the features of X370 but I do need a shitload of sata ports which are in short supply (for me) on B350 boards.

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>>61339540
>>61339637
>>61339639
>>61339652
>>61339683
>>61339981
>>61340025
>>61340277
>>61340425

Final build for anyone who cares. Ended up paying 8 bux shipping at newegg for some reason (I forget which item it was)

Thanks /g/ for saving this /k/ommando $200.

>>61341889
Not bad. I would look out for buying that exact same RAM again in the future in case she's short on RAM (install HWiNFO64 on her PC and after she's done for the day check the RAM usage there, you'll know whether she needs more 16GB or not).

If the GPU you're lending her doesn't suffice investing into a 1050 Ti or 1060 6GB could be good. The 1050 Ti is a pretty good card for its price and is enough to play anything you want, albeit not in full ultra for GPU-bound games. 1060 6GB does everything you want @1080 but nowadays it's overpriced (wouldn't pay more than 200 for it).
In the future, if she needs a better CPU, you can upgrade her Pentium G with an i7-7700 non-K for this board, but keep in mind that it's not worth the 300 dollars it's usually at, here again, I wouldn't pay more than 200 or so for an i7-7700.

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I'm also getting a Kingston SSDNow 240GB SSD
I currently have the GPU.
Most of the parts are on discount; 188 for the CPU, 92 for the MoBo and 60 for the SSHD. I'm saving almost 200 USD between discounts , importing fees and general overprcing in my country.

upgrading from:
>i5 4440
>Asus B85M-G
>Seagate Barracuda 1TB
>Hyper X 2x4GB

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Left a bid on a 780 Ti, only a couple hours are remaining and I'm gonna sleep now.
Hopefully tomorrow I'll find the surprise when I check the outcome.
Wish me luck guise.

>>61332421
>>61340300
>>61339893
Found the Icy Dock Black Vortex MB074SP-B, anyone have experience with it? Would allow me to remove the drive cage from my case and add a 3rd intake fan.

Tips on a 144hz screen?

>>61342194

>780Ti

lol

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Just put this together, have 2 more 6tb drives to add, just waiting for the data to transfer off them. This is gonna be a FreeNAS box

>>61342058
>The 1050 Ti is a pretty good card

I didn't even know they had a 1050. 4Gb for that money is bretty nice too. Might just do one of those for her if my old 670 doesn't like the new setup (or dies after all the abuse i've given it kek).

Please add this in next OP

For people looking to pick up a Ryzen 5 1600 you can pick one up for $185 AR here: https://slickdeals.net/f/10350708-ryzen-5-1600-184-99-199-99-15-00-w-promo-code-superprimus?src=catpagev2

my 24 pin won't click in

how much fucking pressure do I need, the board is flexing

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My under £250 build, how shit is it?

Any changes? Better than my current. I'm trying not to waste a lot and I mostly do light gaming.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/kFknvV

>>61342812
Looks fine.
That PSU is somewhat overkill, but if you plan to upgrade CPU/GPU later you have the headroom.

>>61342489
Don't force anything too hard.
The catch might be broken. Visually inspect.

>>61342862
Yeah if 1060 prices come back down I'll probably get one.

>>61342812
would highly recommend getting 16gb ram. loads of games nowadays. i was forced to upgrade from 8 to 16 myself because of that.

>>61343029
loads of games are ram hogs nowadays*

>>61343029
He can upgrade later. RAM prices are unreasonably high now.

>>61343029
>>61343091
Yeah I wanted 16gb but it's pretty expensive. I mean I think the mobo has 4 ram slots. Would 12 be fine or should I for sure at least aim for 16? If possible.

>>61343160
Just to be certain, I'd buy a single 8GB stick for now, and buy another identical 8GB stick later.
Missing out on dual-channel for a while isn't that big a deal, and you keep all your options open for the future.

>>61343210
Alright. Thank you

>>61343160
you can just get 2x4gb for now and then get another 2x4gb later on, like i did. i doubt you'd ever need more than 16 for the forseeable future and by the time you will need more, your whole pc will need a refresh anyway.

Opinions on Asus B350 Prime Plus and Gigabyte GA-AB350 Gaming 3? How do they compare to MSI Tomahawk? I'm being put off of Tomahawk by all the reports of people having trouble with RAM speeds on it.

>>61333726
G3258 with an LGA 1151 mobo?

>>61332135
How the hell did this happen?
This is from a AMD chip right? Where the pins stick out from the cpu.
How do they ALL get stuck in the socket like that?

>>61343500
He's retarded

Guys, just finished a new pc build and ordered a windows 10 key from kinguin. Need to install windows but I have no access to a windows computer, my only option being my friends MacBook.

>>61343396
Nigabyte's VRM setup is the worst of anyone on B350 boards. MSI's is the best, with Asus second.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZGrxhf_xZWI

>>61343595
No. It's an Intel socket. Intel CPUs are still connected by pins, they're just in the socket itself. Some ebin memester has just created an ebin meme by wrecking one and taking a picture.

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>>61340665
No, but you'll want to kill yourself after you realize how shitty AMD cpus are

>>61342812
Save yourself a lot a money and go with this
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HtjQbj

>>61343778
That PSU is outright garbage.
Whether he should buy 550W is arguable, but choosing crap over quality isn't.

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>tfw when your worked extra time for 3 months to buy r5 1600x + gt 710 cuz no mid range graphics card available
When is this graphics cards crisis is going to end?

>>61343857
I've mostly given up and am trying to decide between a 1050ti and an rx560+freesync monitor

Why are all AM4 motherboards rated lowly? I can't find a 4.5 to 5 star average review on Amazon or Newegg for any of them.

can anyone personally vouch for a good AM4 mobo?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cLdgWX
My friend asked for help.

Absolutely can't go over $800 and from Brazil. These are current prices from Paraguay (where things are closest to USA prices).

Any thoughts or tips?

>>61343912
I have no idea what the market is like in Brazil.
I see no incompatibilities. If Skylake is the best he can do, go for it.

Any thought on buying used parts from eBay?

Found a i7 4820k + ASRock x79 EXTREME4 for $150, which I'd pair with also a used GTX 1060 6B for ~$200.

Also found this but I won't be able to buy since shipping is to expensive to a shot in the dark.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ASUS-Sabertooth-Intel-X79-Chipset-LGA2011-Intel-i7-4820k-Quad-Core-3-7GHz-/263085173905?hash=item3d41192c91:g:tZ0AAOSw2iNZZO3W

>>61343950
Won't the i3 6100 be too weak for a 1060 3GB?
She only will be playing things like CSGO, Dota 2, LoL and some Overwatch/Paladins.

>>61343698
OK, so that's a resounding "no" to Gigabyte. I get it. Distribution of power is important.

>>61344061
If there is any bottleneck, it will be small enough to not worry. However, I wouldn't upgrade the GPU further without upgrading the CPU as well. You are hitting the limit in high-level APIs.

Those sorts of titles could manage well on a 1050. I wouldn't worry about it.

>>61344043
>Any thought on buying used parts from eBay?
Never buy anything used that doesn't have a return policy. Opinion me.

Okay, so can somebody explain to me what "optimized for Ryzen" memory actually is? I'm looking at FlareX and TridentZ sticks, the cost is similar, FlareX isn't on my MB QVL (but said motherboard IS on the memory QVL on the manufacturers' site), and Flares looks kind of ugly. What's more interesting, people still have plenty of problems running both kits at 3200. What's going on and what should I get? I've been stuck at it for a while.

>>61341342
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/G4H323/tp-link-wireless-network-card-tlwdn4800
don't buy this piece of shit from amazon. i got an open box and it was clearly used.,

>>61344320
Probably just guaranteed Samsung B-dies or something like that

>>61344469
But eBay has a Money Back Guarantee if the item is not as described.
If the seller lists as working and it doesn't, I can get the money back, right?

>>61343904
The Asus Prime B350-Plus and MSI Tomahawk are the best budget boards. The Asus Prime X370-Pro is the best mid-range board. The Asus Crosshair VI and ASRock Taichi are the best high end boards. Ignore retarded user reviews. Most of them are probably bitching about not being able to get their RAM to run via XMP, which is as much a platform issue as a motherboard-specific one.

>>61344469
Both those kits are known to have Samsung B-dies. Should I just ignore motherboard QVL and go with Optimized For AMD RAM and hope they will actually bother to optimize for it at some point? At this point I'd like to at least run 3200 memory at stable 2933 or something. I don't want to fiddle with timings.

>>61343904
A lot of that is due to early adopter issues that are largely resolved now with later bios versions

>>61344043
It's fine if you use some common sense. I'm currently using a 2600K and Maximus IV Extreme that I bought on eBay. The board came with its original box and all original accessories, which is a sign to me that somebody's taken good care of it.

>>61344530
I would say go for it, if your mobile has the aegsa 1.0.0.6 update it should be much easier to hit higher frequencies. At least it is for me even with 4 8gb sticks

How's the support for quad channel memory for Ryzen? Thinking about getting an additional 16 gigs somewhere down the line.

Should I buy 1 tb hdd and get a ryzen 1600 or 2 tb and 1400?

>>61344695
ryzen 1600

Where's autokms?

Can someone recommend me a banging AM4 cooler? It's for a 1700X.

New comfy bread:
>>61344650
>>61344650