Intel launches its new precious metal Xeon platform

Burning this place with no survivors

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>>61324675
I will finally see the world burn with me in it.

Thanks, Intel.

>>61324675
>Multiple criss-crossing bingbusses becomes omnipath
>58 separate SKUs with each individual feature being segmented
Is their goal to flabbergast the competition and end users with bullshit?

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>>61325974
>"scaleable"
>"integrated fabric"

Pretty much, yeah.

>>61324675
>The number everyone will gawp at is that of the 8180M: 28 cores, 56 threads, a base clock speed of 2.5GHz, turboing to 3.8GHz, with 1.5TB memory support: those chips will come in at a cool $13,011 each. Sacrificing the large memory support drops the price to $10,009

>>61326025
>Integrated Fabric
>IF

>Intel will start marketting skymeme-x as having "IF"

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>>61324675

>>61326261
inb4 Intel shills defend this as a good thing.
>If you don't need it you don't have to pay for it!
>No one is going to buy it anyway
Kinda surprised they haven't made upgrade cards for these chips.

>>61326286
AMD copies Intel buzzwords all the fucking time who cares

>>61324675
Plutonium version when?

What does fabric mean?

Do I gotta vacuum it every so often?

>>61326312
As expected, Intel's expensive monolithic dies and highly segmented marketing tactics aren't going to win them many favors.

>All in all, it must be said that AMD executed very well and delivered a new server CPU that can offer competitive performance for a lower price point in some key markets. Server customers with non-scalar sparse matrix HPC and Big Data applications should especially take notice.
>As for Intel, the company has delivered a very attractive and well scaling product. But some of the technological advances in Skylake-SP are overshadowed by the heavy price tags and somewhat "over the top" market segmentation.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-epyc-7000-cpu-battle-of-the-decade/23

>>61326316
Name ten examples.

>>61324675
>Up to 28cores
>8 socket motherboards
>1 CPU costs 13k

Are Intel actually retarded?

What the fuck, how the fuck is someone supposed to cool that shit?

Hitler traumatized them so much that they have this compulsion to build ovens?

>Want support for 2,666MHz memory? You'll need a Platinum or Gold part. Bronze is limited to 2,100MHz, Silver to 2,400MHz.

Holy shiiit. Intel must be doing this for their next sockets processors also. Fucking platinum level processors haha.

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>>61327207
Good luck figuring this shit out.

>>61327231
Wait. What?

>>61327287
https://semiaccurate.com/2017/07/11/intel-launches-purley-aka-metal-xeons/

>>61327231
>Those last two characters
Intel could make 4 versions of the same processor with different features enabled/disabled?

Pure, distilled segmentation.

>>61326646
Kak.

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>>61327287
These are the different SKUs for the new xeon lineup rofl

>>61326286
Kek, wouldn't be the first time they tired it.
>AMD creates Hyper-Transport
>Intel decides to call their SMT, Hyper-Threading

>>61327449
Great way of handing over most of the markets to AMD, Intel.

Literally what the fuck, an 8 core EPYC supports more memory and IO than a $13k Pentium

>>61327449
>13,000 dollaridoos for a CPU
What in the actual everloving fuck, Intel.

>>61327449
What the fuck is this shitfest?
Why the fuck are they segmenting even fucking memory per socket support?

>>61327693
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>>61327499
COUGH UP, GOY

>>61327449
>AMD's processors are pretty good
>wat do
>shoot self into foot, that'll teach them

>>61327449
Hey Brian
>sup
Check out the new i7-6700 v4 gold
>LOOL
LOOL
>You're getting a bonus

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>>61327820
damnit I forgot the snip

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>>61327724
So this needs another version?

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>>61326312
>upgrade cards
wasn't that "service" discontinued 6 years ago

>>61327449
>Sockets are on CPU
wait, what?

>>61327521
Server owners buy them
Rent them out by the core
Make up the cost within a month

It's not for NEETs, you will never, ever own one of these nor will anyone on this board ever

>>61327978
It's twice the cost of latest E7 Xeons.
TWICE.

>>61327978
Make up the cost within 2 years*

>>61327978
>Intel
>powerful processors
>eat power like motherfuckers and generate heat like holo-ovens
>so many processors to choose from a clusterfuck of tiers with many pros and cons, price differences and locked features that are already there, like on-disc DLC
>"best one" is 13K dollars

>AMD
>slightly less powerful
>less power needed and emits less heat
>concise list of fully featured available processors
>"best one" is probably cheaper, more efficient and slightly less powerful than Intel

Intel's gonna make up the cost within 2 fucking decades.

4 core 7k usd

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>>61326279
PoooMD is dead lmao!

>>61326322

This chip will already be as hot as a reactor core. Might need a PSU just for the CPU.

>>61327449
>Only 3/4ths a TB of memory.
>EIGHT FUCKING SOCKETS
Come on now...

>>61327231
holy shit it's like textual spaghetti

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>>61328133
You forgot to add
>Intel
>Lasts for decades under 100 degree loads
>AMJEW
>Fails within a few months even with liquid helium cooling

>>61329230
Why do you even bother posting this shit that has absolutely no connection to reality whatsoever?

>>61329288
Except it does, one of my intel processors ran at 130 degrees under heavy loads due to shit cooling and it still works
On the other hand I've never seen an AMD processor that has lasted more than 6 months without failing

>>61329298
Why are you posting your complete bullshit in a thread about server CPUs? Weren't you on here yesterday jerking your dick off about your magical 130c surviving CPU? It doesn't fucking exist, you're retarded and need to fuck off forever.

>>61326279
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>>61329359
Reminder to report shitposters.

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>>61329378
>loses the argument
>Y-YOU'RE JUST SHITPOSTING
Jesus, you fail harder than an AMD processor

>>61327207
how is this even legal...

>>61329230
Why are you defending you fire hazard tier CPU? Lmao.

>>61329317

AMD have always been less reliable than Intel due to their production being under less scrutiny.

You can refuse to accept this as fact due to not feeding you a source but AMD CPUs were notorious for dying randomly, hence why even back in the days of pentiums and athlons , Intel got the better market share due to the fact you could rely on an Intel computer to not die half way through a session of work while AMDs QC was fucking terrible.

Now it's about even but back in the day, AMD were known for shitty CPUs hence why they were the cheaper option.

So is Intel still naming their low end server parts E3 or what?

>>61329481
>tfw 2 DOA Duron's back in the day so sprang for a P4

Is Intel really trying to sell an eight socket motherboard?
what the fuck?

>>61329481
>even back in the day AMD were known for shitty CPUs
That's why IBM used AMD for their PC XTs, right?
Also why IBM chose AMD (out of the rest of the industry) to require Intel to hand x86 rights to.

>>61329537
>That's why IBM used AMD for their PC XTs, right?
They used AMD because they're cheap indian shit

>>61329298
>On the other hand I've never seen an AMD processor that has lasted more than 6 months without failing
That's funny, I have a Phenom II that's been running nonstop for the last 5 years without problems. Maybe you should try to actually take care of your hardware instead of running it at 130C like a fuckshit retard.

>>61329575
IBM was charging thousands to businesses that would absolutely pay more. They couldn't give less of a shit about how much it costs. (that's what the clone market was for)

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>>61329587
>That's funny, I have a Phenom II that's been running nonstop for the last 5 years without problems
Please, show me a power supply that can run non-stop for 5 years and not fail
Protip: there isn't one

>>61329481
Sounds like a load of shit to me. I owned several AMD CPUs during those years and never had an issue.

>>61329620
El-cheapo Antec Neo ECO 400C, bought it all the way back in 2009 for an Athlon 64x2 system, at which point it served a Pentium E5300 and a Q9400 system for day in and day out use until I got a higher capacity 500W unit. After that it ended up attached to the Phenom II system starting in 2012 for nonstop 24/7 operation until 2 months ago when I shuffled my hardware around. It now serves as the PSU for another Core 2 quad system.

Again, stop treating your hardware like shit and maybe it'll last longer. Also, nice goalpost moving, we started on CPUs and moved to power supplies.

Are any of these going to be compatible with LGA 2066 or is Intel axing that?

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>>61329481
Goddamn the desperation and FUD coming out of the shilltel crowd right now.

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>>61329713
>nice goalpost moving
Except I didn't move the goalposts
You said you ran your CPU 5 years nonstop, which would imply you never turned off your computer and I asked you a power supply which would be capable of such operation
Also the power supply you listed is only good for the most low-power cheap shit computer you can build therefore making it completely useless in this day and age

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>>61329620
>Please, show me a power supply that can run non-stop for 5 years and not fail

>>61329747
Yep, it doesn't exist, just like your CPU that runs at 130c without thermal shutdown. Stop shitting up the thread, stop shitting up the board, fuck off forever.

>>61329620
>show me a power supply that can run non-stop for 5 years and not fail
Are you retarded?

>>61329768
Because under actual loads it doesn't exist you idiot
Sure you can put a .000001v load behind a 9v battery and it would last years, but what fucking use is any device that requires such a small amount of voltage
But of course a cheap shit rig would fit an AMJEW, since you're such a poor little streetshitter

>>61329359
AMD Thunderbird
AMD Athlon 2500+
AMD Athlon X2 4200+
AMD A8-4500M

Number of CPUs used every day for years on end w/o issue : All
Number of dead CPUs : None

Kill yourself.

>>61329620
back to linustechtips.com my friend

>>61329620
>I only buy chinkshit PSUs: The Post

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>>61327873

MY FUCKING KEK

10/10

>>61326459
>Are Intel actually retarded?

Offering that much performance / space comes at a price.

Yeah, not performance per core, or performance per watt. Performance per space.

>>61329871
>FilthyFrank
It sure is summer!

>>61329747
>which would imply you never turned off your computer
I should fucking hope not, it spent most of its time as as a server, which it still does to this day.
If it ever went down (system maintenance, external power loss) i had it back up within a couple of hours at the most.

And he >>61329768 >>61329827
and I are 2 completely fucking different people.

We were having a nice civil thread right up until you showed up.

>>61324675
>$13,011

kek

>>61329940
Intel shills woke up late. Let him be, goy! He has to meet his quota!

>>61329920
The scaling on those 8 sockets are so poor, though. Where are you setting this shit up in, a storage closet?
>>61329940
Just report him.

>>61327841
who would buy this abortion?
I mean who literally who
Anyone half sane would buy at least an Skylake X or some shit even Ryzen or 7700 over this

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Going to post some slides from the Purley release.

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>>61330166
Nice pluralization on "Die" intel
>>61330194
I find it hard to believe Intel would use the words "glued together"

Dear fucking lord the amount of FUDge in these slides could fill a chocolate factory.

>>61330204
>Intel trying to hide that 8x8MB of L3 is 64MB

>>61330158
Did they REALLY add a link to some rando blubbering about day one gaming performance to their server slides? I have no words. Intel has basically been reduced to spouting the talking points of retarded /g/ trolls.

>>61330158
>>61330194
Now this is what you call scared as fuck

>>61330177
>WCCFTECH
Lmao

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And that's all I have for choice slides.

You can see the rest at https://www.computerbase.de/bildstrecke/78687/

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>>61330288
Shintlel is scared as shit

These slides holy shit.

>these slides
good god they're scared as hell arent they?

>>61330177
>wccftech
>nvidia tier graph
>implying zen2/zen+ in late 2018 won't result in new epyc CPUs

Is every single slide this retarded?

>>61330288
>Not all cores are created equal
What the fuck does this mean?

>>61330362
presumably justification for Intel's infinite number of SKUs

>>61330166
> glued together
is this legit?

>desktop dies
>disjointed
>partitioned
>glued

Jesus fucking christ. I'm honestly disgusted by the amount of bullshit and FUD on display here. Thankfully people who are buying this shit usually don't pay attention to marketing slides and prefer to look at actual results.

>>61330395
they said that thing on a official statement when epyc was launched too, so i'd say yes

>>61330404
I'm glad there are enough BOFHs out there to use the Halon system on the Jews

>>61330395
No, it's literally the kind of bottom of the barrel idiocy you hear from the most diehard Intel shills. Intel has turned into a 4chan troll at this point.

>>61330158
what? Now im more confortable knowing that intel XEON platinum ultra 1K US$ is good for gaming.

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>>61329620
YOU MOTHERFUCKER LISTEN YOUR DICK UP REAL GOOD CAUSE GOOD POWER SUPPLIES RUN FOR 10 FUCKING YEARS

10

FUCKING

YEARS

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817341011

This power supply has outlasted 3 processor generations, 2 video card generations, running flat out since 2008 when I fucking bought it on sale for 134.99. And you know what?

ITS FUCKING RED. IS YOUR PSU RED? I DONT FUCKING THINK SO.

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How is this less when put together, it BTFOs the crap out of the amount of bandwidth available?

>>61330209
Probably the diversity hires paying off. Intel polluted their company with talentless hacks over the past few years. Not that AMD hasn't done it, but at least theirs tend to keep to making communist marketing.

>>61330452
Because they're desperately trying to make themselves look good even though they know they have nothing.

>>61324675
>omni path fabric
i told you they're gonna copy that shit.

>>61330452
those slides are for stupid /v/ kids and "le hip geek startup xDDD", any company worth it's salt cares more about how it actually performs than what the company says

>>61330220
>Marketing team do some shit amd is scaring us
>what you done?
I put an url so long no one will bother trying to type it into a browser

These are some of the most cringy marketing materials i ever seen. Its even worse then average g troll

>>61330486
they only copied the name, it's just a lot of small ringbuses on a monolithic die

>>61330497
The URL is only long because of the session ID that the diversity hire left in.

>>61330260
NUMA sucks outside of benchmarks? Not really what I'm seeing here. http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-epyc-7000-cpu-battle-of-the-decade

>>61330220
holy shit they're really resorting to muh avx now, while amd can cram 100tflops of computing on a 2U server?

>>61330527
Really reaching an insane amount of desperation.

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>>61330271

My autism strikes again. Why do the ends not match up?

AMD cheap CPU using chipmaker, glued in server CPU.

Intel very expensive CPU using special process in own fabric.

Intel: holy shit, hey boys AMD glue CPU like baby.

>>61330582
try outlining the VM in the gap, you'll see how they did it then.

how many server implementers will fall for this marketing crap?

i'm sure they do cost/benefit analysis right?

>>61330582
diversity hires editing the slides don't have any design skill

>>61330620
only the bottom of the barrel of the retarded, very few companies think like /v/ kids

>>61330158
>xeon processor slide
>mentioning gaming at all
Literally what?

>>61330595
so it's basically confirmed now that intel has paid shills here right? those slides are basically refined shitposting

>>61330620
my company who outsoures its IT to some fucking retarded lazy accounting firm just dropped 25k+ on two shitty xeon racks, just after telling us we need to upgrade our current one for 15k

one of the IT guys that does quotes is butt buddies with the company Controller that knows dick all about hardware.

last time i tried to speak uo or solve simple IT shit these lazy fucks take 2 weeks to do I got a verbal warning for overstepping.

literally unplugging a network switch that was malfunctioning and plugging it back in to get a printer back online is "overstepping".

>>61330687
Yeah you could do a find+replace with "pooMD" and add "finished & bankrupt" and it'd be practically indistinguishable.

>>61330620
Data center customers? Probably not many, they are extremely anal about power consumption.
Normal corporations will probably fall for it.

>>61330745
>Normal corporations will probably fall for it
And how many would that be?

>>61330756
A lot.

....holy shit .

they truly are fucked aren't they .


are you sure these slides aren't a parody ?

>>61330745
>>61330763
If AMD can't get any sort of foothold even with a product as good as Epyc, x86 deserves to die and get slowly strangled to death by cheap ARM CPUs.

where are all the intel shills? It's surprisingly quiet in here

>>61327449
>i'm behind 7 sockets
Anyone can provide the 7 proxies meme

>>61330838
even shills have standards. nobody wants to touch these processors.

>>61330838
They realized Intel is now doing their job for them and are waiting for the pink slip in the mail.

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/11544/intel-skylake-ep-vs-amd-epyc-7000-cpu-battle-of-the-decade/23

>With the exception of database software and vectorizable HPC code, AMD's EPYC 7601 ($4200) offers slightly less or slightly better performance than Intel's Xeon 8176 ($8000+). However the real competitor is probably the Xeon 8160, which has 4 (-14%) fewer cores and slightly lower turbo clocks (-100 or -200 MHz). We expect that this CPU will likely offer 15% lower performance, and yet it still costs about $500 more ($4700) than the best EPYC. Of course, everything will depend on the final server system price, but it looks like AMD's new EPYC will put some serious performance-per-dollar pressure on the Intel line.

>>61330745
if they're anal about power consumption, more reason to go amd.

8180M: 28 cores, 56 threads, a base clock speed of 2.5GHz, turboing to 3.8GHz, with 1.5TB memory support: those chips will come in at a cool $13,011 each

>$13,011
what in the actual fuck

>>61330869
From the comments
>I'm curious about the database benchmarks. It sounds like the database is tiny enough to fit into L3? That seems like a... poor benchmark. Real world databases are gigabytes _at best_, and AMD's higher DRAM bandwidth would likely play to their favor in that scenario. It would be interesting to see different sizes of transactional databases tested, as well as some NoSQL databases.

So even that seems like it's a loss if you use an actual database and not some tiny test sample database.

>>61330932
I want my 60% margins, goy.
So I segment everything.

>>61330518
fuck i didnt even noticed, damn a fucking session_ID in a url in a marketing presentation.
What they hire for marketing? Jamal jr from namibia rapefugee?

>>61330687
nah at least some shitposting is creative and funny, this looks like made by a cross between an intel shill manchildren and a rapefugee in 1 semester of marketing with brain damage

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intel annihilated by a CPU that is half the cost. they can never recover

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>>61331031
So this is the power of H1B hires...
Bravo Intel.

>>61331049
They fired how many for this? Bravo Intel!

>>61331101
12k people! To hire moar pajeets for ANOTHER disasterous launch.
This slide deck is literally /g/ shitposting material.

>>61331101
I think it was well over 10k employees.

>>61331114
It does prove that /g/ is full of pajeet intel shills though

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>>61330158
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>>61330288

Thats almost some next level goytactics right there. You gotta be a huge sucker to fall for these marketing slides and also not a very formal/mature response of a so-called market leader of the datacenter market.

Even ServeTheHome is impressed how big the vendor ecosystem with EPYC. With amount of waves AMD generated with early samples given out to well known datacenter entities like Dropbox. Epyc is already been field tested for firmware validity and performance despite these slides spreading such hyperbole claims of their competitor CPU microarch.
https://www.servethehome.com/impressive-part-amd-epyc-launch-ecosystem/

Its like they really really forgot how to compete in a formal manner. Really sad and toxic coming out of their marketing department is like run by teen age children.

I thought AMD PR is bad, but this is nextlevel of bad. Those slides are so unprofessionally done and provide no convincing argument and reason why to buy their Skylake-SP not to mention the huge amount of feature segregation per cpu class they trying to market there at such massive markups.

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>>61331043
>Tfw already running dual 2680s

>>61331114
interesting to note, a lot of people was from marketing and customer reps. People doing marketing decently (albeit shilling) for years. They even dropped intel annual summit developers forum, all to trade for this shitty level of material.

>>61331043
Way worse one EPYC 7601 cost $2100, double socket cost $4200.

Based on cost of 1 x EPYC 7601-based (1 x $2100 AMD 1k price)

AMD PR
http://www.amd.com/en-us/press-releases/Pages/amd-epyc-datacenter-2017jun20.aspx

foot notes.

>>61330194
>Mesh architecture enables consistently shitty latencies

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>>61330177

>Goytel in charge of powerpoints

holy fuck this slide has my sides in need of a 387 coprocessor.

>>61326459
The high-end has been like this forever, how the do you think IBM is still alive?

>>61330853
6?

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>>61330288
Intel shit bricks.

>>61330158
>Gaymen in the Xeon slide
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

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>>61330288
Is this /g/ shitposting condensed into ONE slide deck?
What's next, frogposting in response to EPYC2 launch?

Intlel is on suicide watch, for real this time.

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Holy shit, Intel. The first sign of competition and what do you do? You completely shit your pants.

I hate this board so much, i don't know if it's because it's summer or what, but we are literally at /v/ levels of retarded newfag shitposting lately.

>>61331396
Anon Intel themselves resorted to /v/-tier shitposting in official marketing slides.

>>61331343
I think so.
Not even sure what an appropriate reaction image to these slides is.

>>61331343
No frog posting, anon. Only Wojacks.

>>61330158
They are scared shitless. When you have to resort to cheap heeb tricks like this you don't have a credible selling story for your own product.

>>61330158
Incredible that they have no shame calling out AMD for lack of optimizations after years of unethical shady practices like making the Intel compiler cripple AMD CPUs on purpose.

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>>61327449
>$7,000
>4 cores

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>>61324675
Hyenard?

>>61332202
you forgot
>less pci lanes
>less memory channels
>dogshit scaling with multiple sockets

>>61327231
Is this written in hieroglyphics?

>>61330220
>using CPUs for heavy floating point tasks

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>>61327841
>4 cores
>3/4tb
>7,007 dollarinos
FUCKING JEWS.

>>61332257
You're not funny.

>>61331343
Worse, flagposting.

>>61332278
>intel shills

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>>61330158
>>61330166
>>61330177
>>61330194
>>61330204
>>61330220
>>61330244
>>61330260
>>61330271
>>61330288
Holy kek, these can't be real.

>>61332391
Nobody ever got fired for buying intel CPUs.

>>61324675
>yfw 80% yields
>yfw AMD could undercut Intel into oblivion but wants sweet margins
>yfw 7nm next year
>yfw 7nm EPYC in 2019
>yfw 6 cores on a CCX
Intel better start gluing smaller dies soon or they will be fucked up in the next 5 years.

>>61332488
their new arch comes out at 2021, the literally have nothing to do until then besides muh niggahurtz and muh avx

>>61330518

That and
>You must be a subscriber to access the Microprocessor Report, please Login below.
If your company has a site license you can activate your account here.

Literally cant fact check the fucking slide. Bravo

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>>61330177
>Wcftech
AAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

>>61330932
>$13011
>11

Gotta get every penny

>>61332513
Will it significantly improve IPC or?

>>61332579
from what we know, it's "x86 with parts chopped off so it's faster"

I don't know what this means regarding IPC

>>61324675
>fabric crud requires autism pins
this is why Intel will lose. AMD's fabric thing doesn't require anything extra.

>>61328133
Actually, AMD's epyc line is MORE powerful than intel's xeon line. By far.
Intel is marketing a weaker chip that's more expensive, uses more energy, and has less memory/bandwidth/everything hence all the bullshit.

>>61332592
Generally chopping off parts means going full cell here.
"Introducing intel nucleai! 65536 cores that perform as fast as an Z80, with an quadruple circular interconnect bus!"

>>61327915
New -X platforms have upgrade cards

>>61330838
They're quieter when their cheques bounce

>>61331396
These are official intel slides.

>>61332670
$300 RAID CARDS

>>61332278
Your CPUs are garbage

>>61329298
One of my AMD processor ran at 1300 degrees due to being next to an Intel build and it still works
On the other hand I've never seen Intel sustain fusion more than 6 seconds

>>61330288
Yea maybe when you have to resort to innovatioj buzzword then you got nothing to show

>>61330177
>benchmarks may have been optimized only for Intel
>SYSmark
Fucking lmao, they don't even bother hiding it anymore.

>>61332990
AMD tests their chips in SPEC while Intel tests them in fucking sysmark.

Really makes you think

>>61327231
Don't know, does not seem to complicated to me. Then again I work with ordering stuff and shit.

>>61333333

>>61327451
>hyper transport
>anything to do with multithreading
amdtards are both underage and retarded

>>61329481
>Intel got the better market share due to the fact you could rely on an Intel computer to not die half way through a session of work while AMDs QC was fucking terrible.
No, intel got better market share because literally bribed and treathened OEMs.

They must've crafted this platinum level bullshit a few years ago when AMD was on thin ice. Everything was set in motion so Intel calculated that they will still get billis of profit even though Epyc is just better.

This is what a monopoly looks like. Man I hope everybody at Intel marketing burns.

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hmm

>>61333539
It takes what? Five years to get a new arch so that shit was started just after Bulldozer came out isn't?

Are the Opterons that bad?

>>61333539
Now this level of segmentation will kill them slowly.
Apple did the same thing in the 90s. PC marketshare was cheaper, and none of the advantages of Apple could combat the ADD of consumers, who only get confusion and high prices for their products. Jobs knew that and that's why he killed lots of shit in when he regained control of Apple.
Intel needs to get their shit together again. They can't count on having best PR than AMD or having Apple grabed by the balls with contracts if they have marketing tactics like that.

>>61333701
It must be pain to even manage the product line inside Intel. How many man hours are wasted when employees have to check the correct SKU every single time one is mentioned in corporate emails? Then having to think the proper upgrade path for each and salesmen having to learn this much new shit while dreaming of coke and taking a literal shit on customers, etc.

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>>61333701
>>61334639
take a look at this

>>61334670
>EBYN is bretty good :--DDDD
>What do we do aboud it ? ?
>Add more prodesors variants :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
Ebin

>>61327873
I never found these funny until they were intel engineers

Intel is going to start bribing OEMs again at this rate.

>>61329620
I built a computer in 2005. The PSU that came with the case died within a month, and I replaced it with one that some guy in a small computer shop recommended to me. Told me to get a real heavy one, they're better.

That computer has been running 24/7 for the past 8 years as a fileserver, and on/off as my main pc before that

>>61334714
Haha, no.

Their desperate marketing slides wouldn't exist if bribes were working, they'd just keep quiet and let AMD fade out of relevancy.

>>61334670
Haha oh man.

I pity the fools buying 4k$ i5-7600. Btw does the 10 year life segment mean that the heat spreader is welded and all else are gum?

>>61324675
58 (Fifty-Eight) SKUs!

Intel is in FULL DAMAGE CONTROL MODE

https://www.techpowerup.com/235092/intel-says-amd-epyc-processors-glued-together-in-official-slide-deck

>>61329620
I wonder what it must feel like, to be THIS bad at computers.

>>61329620
I have a 1200W PSU that never broke; ran my PC/home server daily, all day, no downtime aside from reboots and transport (have a UPS), for 6 years with no issues. Just built my new machine so I've stopped using it now (old one is still functional).

>>61334824
What skus in cpu mean?

>>61334827
holy shit

>>61334856
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stock_keeping_unit

They have segmented their new lineup so badly, with different features spread all across, that they're releasing 58 different chips.

Good luck being the poor sap tasked with "which intel chip should we buy / upgrade to and why" for your company.

>>61334670
Wow.
Just.
Wow.

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>Compares a 2000$+ server grade CPU to an UNDERCLOCKED 400$ consumer grade cpu.

>>61334876
Desperate.
Your turn.

>>61334876
This is motherfucking hilarious.
What the fuck are they doing?
Who the fuck approved that?

>>61334873
Oh, so sku means basically a cpu? And they released 58 of them?

TOPKEK

>>61334876
holy fug they can be that desperate or stupid surely

>>61334827
This comment sums up how fucked this presentation is pretty well:

>The reason intel is using such retarded slides, is basically because it is not targeted at people like you and me. Think about the target of this whole presentation( people who are making decisions and signing contracts). With an awareness level close to "no clue" about whole AMD/intel thing, when intel tells them "glued-together" believe me that will have some psychological effects on them. This is rather really dirty and dangerous marketing from Intel.

>>61334876
They also underclocked their own chip: https://en.wikichip.org/wiki/intel/xeon_gold/6134

>>61334937
This ignores the fact that the dude signing to buy new hardware is advised by somone who has a clue.
Most of the time.

>>61334953
why didn't they show both at 3.2 GHz then? oh, I know, because that turd xeon would be crushed

>>61334955
Some of the time, you mean. There's a lot less competence in management decision making than you think. They'll just believe whatever garbage intel spews out.

>>61334955
Most of the time he is advised by someone who has a clue.
Almost all of the time he thinks he knows better than his advisor, anyway.

>>61324675
What is that side connector? How the fuck are you supposed to install it in the socket?

>>61334953
But why 2,2gh? It makes no sense.

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whats his name again?

>>61334980
OmniPath whatever whatever bullshit scalable fast (tm)

>>61334988
Jim "One Man Holocaust" Keller

>most cores

The memes write themselves

>>61330177
>literally using Currytech as a source

Literally.

>>61334988
Jim "number 58 can suck my ass" Keller

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>>61324675

I can't wait to travel back in time 10 years now and buy physical RAID keys for my Intel i9 memprocessors!

>>61334876
>>61334901
>>61334900
>>61334919
>>61334953

They're really doubling down on this "4 desktop dies glued together" thing aren't they.

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>>61330288
>"""""investments""""" in """""ecosystem"""""

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>>61335066
the thingis that those 4 glued together dies perform better than their giant 0.0001% yield tokomak reactor

>>61335076
The glue is totally Nazi science and antisemitic.
t. Intel engineer

>>61335094
I've personally met a few Intel engineers(fab , nvme and client ) division.
They're really smart people, and that's the problem, managment and marketing thinks they know better.
Just a bunch of wasted talent

>>61324675
Holocaust 2.0. INTEL is fucked.

>>61335118
Intel still makes good NICs and SSDs. It's just their CPU stuff is meh and 10nm node is trash.

>>61335066
They are trying to turn weakness into strenght and vice versa. It's a shame this isn't high school debate club.

Intel has probably planned this so that they use all their available "goodwill" (this is just a big fuck you to every end user) on this travesty for gen or two making sweet billis and then their CEO is changed with big talk. Screencap this.

>Intel releases new server arch
>$AMD up 3%

>>61334988
Jim "One man circuit design" Keller
Jim "The Jew Killer" Keller
Jim "XeonBBQ" Keller

>>61335232
SKL-SP release was more about trashtalking AMD than the processors themselves.

>calls IF a meme glue
>still uses the same acronym for their own tech
So this is what it looks like when a marketing team spills spaghetti.

>>61335360
It would seem they hate their own products. I cannot blame them.

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>>61329620
I stole a server from work 6 years because it was overheating, it was an old restaurants ghetto machine from a previous company, 600W chink supply, dual core bentium and ghetto ass tiny MSI mobo
I run it 24/7 as an SQL/File server and it's run fine to this day apart from one of the SATA power connectors catching fire when I tried to live plug a DVD drive in, but I just cut that off and taped it up
Also the bearings in the fan went at one stage but that was like 10 min downtime to put an Antec molex fan in there

>>61334953
Because clocking down that low and crippling performance is the only way they can get their power consumption under control. The 1800X probably draws the same power at its stock frequency as that Xeon does at 2.2GHz.

>>61330220
>login.php
>>61330271
>search.do

What kind of sources are these, Intel?

>>61335649
Stop being racist. Sanjay did a fantastic job and we're all proud of him.

Why do people bother spamming the intel = housefire meme nowdays? If I recall it was last relevant in 2009 or so.

>>61335717
>skylake-x cpus melting the vrms and power cables
>100°C on AIO while overclocking
>not a housefire

>>61332625
>Z80
>implying they would draw comparisons with their old rival Zilog
As fast as an 8080/8085, you mean.

>>61327449

>RAM artificial limits

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHahahahahahaha

>inb4 pay 3000 USD to for a RAM key to unlock ECC support or some shit

>>61333046
It isn't any more complicated than, say, AVR microcontroller codes. But I believe the point is that you shouldn't go as far as that for what is essentially consumer hardware, because with such complex products, you shouldn't be able to tweak them as much while retaining the qualities that make them what they are.
I mean, at this point, they might as well have branded the gold Xeons as "Xeon" and other tiers as something else, because the name itself now means very little in terms of performance/power draw/....

>>61334876
>4% difference for web serving
>for a server processor
Wew

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>>61334876

is this shit even real?

>>61336122
https://www.techpowerup.com/235092/intel-says-amd-epyc-processors-glued-together-in-official-slide-deck

So wait, was AMD's master plan to get some pajeets into Intel's marketing team in order to create these disasters of presentations?

>>61336264
no, intel shot themselves in the foot by hiring MUH DIVERSITY workers instead of competent people

>>61330158
>>61330166
Hey Brian
>What's up
Check out this nice joke me and my friends came up with :DDDDD
>This thing is perfect. It will go onto our next presentation. Bye
No, wait.... Fug

>>61334670
>seven thousand american shekel quad cores
Intel, what in the actual fuck?

>>61330166
>innovation
intel never does anything new. they're still on pentium 3
since then AMD has invented fucking everything new and tried & failed where it mattered & didn't matter
memory controllers, multi cores, 64 bit, all of it success from AMD not intel

>>61330194
>hey guys we could have done this 8 socket meme shit 10 years ago but we wanted your money

literally all I can see with these slides

>>61327449
It would be acceptable if it supported at least 3TB of RAM because then the RAM alone would cost more than the CPU.

>>61334900
Desperate

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Hahahahahaha why do they keep doubling down on their horrible infrastructure? AMD made the right choice by going modular, now they can scale and Intel is stuck spinning it's wheels in the same rut they got into 2 years ago

>>61337435
What else can they do?
Say
>sorry people we're 5 years behind in interconnect space please buy Intel
?

>>61331396
>/v/ levels of retarded newfag shitposting
That's Intel alright.

>>61337503
I just hope that this bites them in the ass like they deserve. I mean, I'd love for them to produce innovated and bill-pushing hardware, but at the same time just fuck Intel for the shit they've pulled. If any company embodies the spirit of Jewery, it's Intel

>>61337529
Oh don't worry, it will.
Because you don't use /g/-tier shitposting in official marketing slides without suffering consequences.

>>61334988
JEW KILLER

Man EPYC is so insane on so many levels it's fucking hilarious.
AMD has 4 QPI links worth of bandwith between two sockets.

>>61327978
Google will find something for it.
I also see Intel giving Watson an upgrade.
oh, Hardcore Bitcoin miners.
That's all I can think of.

>>61334998
Holy kek.

>>61329620
I've managed something like 40 PCs in an engineering workshop which has some of the computers on the shop floor, covered in metal dust. In my ten years of working there, I've maybe had three or four power supplies fail. And some of the machines are ten years old, or even more. Half of the machines are never turned off.. usually it's the harddrive which fails before psu. Or cpu fan.

>>61333371
That's not the point you autismal niggerfaggot cucktruck.

>>61327873
not half bad, worth a light chuckle

I'm glad I sold my intel stock before ryzen came out. It was a good investment for years, solid dividend payer but those times appear to be over for now

>>61330271
oh shit, I have virtual machines running on intel e5-2670s and I was going to migrate those to threadripper boxes. Is this impossible?

>>61339272
Think it depends on the implementation.

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>>61334988

>>61339301

debian/ubuntu servers with kvm qemu, emulated x86-64 and i440fx chipset

I didn't even consider that this might not work

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>>61330853
I made you something

>>61339544
Kek.
Here is a well earned (You)

>>61339357
Is there any proprietary Intel shit in there?

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BAD GOYIM! DELETE THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW!

>>61339943
You're not funny.

>>61335291
>XeonBBQ
My sides

>>61339943
No.