So, Firefox 57 is the day we switch to Chrome?

Meh. I don't even use an adblocker.

>>61324229
Legacy addons will continue to work on nightly.

>>61324229
>using kikefox

>>61324229


b..bu...but...it's so much snappier and faster!

No.
Chorme can go fuck itself.

I certainly hope that the devs are able to migrate the most important extensions to WebExtensions though.
It's really sad to see the DownThemAll! dev giving up. :^(

>>61324229
No, to pale meme

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All the extensions in that picture have a WebExtension alternative or are not necessary since they're built-in features.
XUL extensions are a security risk and only a complete retard would want them. The real shame here is that they didn't make the switch before.

>>61324229
I used 52 ESR yesterday with no addons at all and it was bliss

>>61324303
The "most important" extensions are not why I use Firefox. It's the smaller extensions that make the browser highly customizable, which makes Firefox usable.

Hell, if I just want the "most important" extensions, I'd have switched to Chrome years ago.

>>61324229
It feels good to not be using legacy add-ons.

Learn to adapt, faggot.

>>61324336
I used ur mum yesterday with no comdom, it was a bliss

>not using Netrunner

Kekekekekeke

>>61324229
No, June 2018 when ESR 52 is no longer supported is when we switch.

>>61324229
My question is where the TreeStyleTabs refugees will go

>>61324423
They're fucked. I don't care for tree-style tabs, but I can see the appeal. Though, I'm probably gonna lose my dual pane bookmark addon, which makes me sad.

Reminder that you have ABSOLUTELY NO RIGHT to complain about browsers when you can do this:

#!/usr/bin/python3

from PyQt5 import QtWebEngine

# your customizations here

>>61324372
>no condom
>bliss
more like a blister. Haha enjoy your std

>>61324279
If that's the case, then I might switch back.

The main reason I switched to chrome was because it was snappier and wouldn't freeze the whole browser when I was loading large threads (300+comments/some images).

>>61324229
Is this legit?

If so I'm off to Palemoon

>>61324469
>python
nah

>>61324565

#include <QWebEngine>

// your customizations here

Kill yourself.

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>>61324389
>netrunner

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>>61324608

>>61324586

#include <webkit.h>
#include <webkitgtk.h>
#include <gtk/gtk.h>

i'd say remove yourself from the gene pool but thats obviously taken care of

>>61324229
>a browser loses support for legacy addons
>lets switch to browser which has worse support for addons then the original browser will have AFTER the change
You're a shill, a cretin, or both.

>>61324686
Webkit is deprecated.

>>61324687
At least Chrome is fast as fuck.

>>61324701
What are you even doing in this board? 'At least it's fast as fuck xDD'? Where's your proof?

>>61324701
Guess why firefox is ditching legacy extensions, you moron.

>>61324697
that's why the fastest browsers are based on it?

>>61324742
legacy extensions are the only thing keeping firefox on life support.

>>61324750
>Blink is a fork of the WebCore component of WebKit[6] and is used in Chrome starting at version 28,[7][8] Opera (15+),[7] Amazon Silk and other Chromium-based browsers and frameworks.
webkit is deprecated

>>61324750
blink was forked off of webkit 4 years ago. it's deprecated

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>>61324229
>he needs anything more than uBlock Origin and HTTPS Everywhere
grand autismo

>>61324770
They're the reason why it's so fucking slow. How can you people be so retarded to not understand this?

>>61324845
Greasemonkey? So I can run my Mexican dentist forum userscripts

>>61324686
>GTK
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61324845
>grand autismo

What about Reddit Enhancement Suite(tm)

huh?

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>>61324946
>he needs stupid scripts for Guatemalan proctologist advice board

>>61324510
I'm using fucking pale moon which is like Firefox 25 and I've never had a problem on threads with like 500 replies you mongoloid

>>61325144
Comon now, its not that hard.


Freezing browser has been a thing since forever for Firefox, even Palemoon.

It doesn't perma freeze, just freezes for ~2-10 seconds depending on the loads.

And thats not the only problem. Another serious problem is the leakage. 2+GB is a huge problem for any firefox builds(barring the recent 2-3 versions as I haven't tested those). So much so that it can be very CPU intensive and the whole system becomes very laggy unless the firefox program is ended.

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>>61324336
>52 ESR
>ESR

BASED HYPE

>>61325224
>Freezing browser has been a thing since forever for Firefox, even Palemoon.
>even Palemoon
Palemoon is based on a much older firefox, and while it's been receiving security updates it's still much slower in general. My point is that it's never matter for me in practice, unless I try to play some really javascript-heavy games or something.

>memory
Has palemoon open for at least two weeks, with about 40-50 tabs open, and it's using about 600k.

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>>61324229
Literally the only things that matter are
>uBlock Origin
>uMatrix / NoScript
>Dectraleyes
>HTTPS
>Self Destructing Cookies

Are they all working?

>>61324252
>Meh. I don't even use an adblocker.

Me neither. Not in a browser anyway. My router already blocks ads.

i switched to seamonkey a while ago

>>61324303
really sad indeed

>>61324423
Vivaldi is the only alternative with anything close, side tabs.

>>61325920
>Dectraleyes
seems pretty useless

>>61324519
Palemoon is p. sweet for the most part (its basically firefox in a third the memory footprint plus old addons still work) but its developed a problem in the latest version where Youtube crashes it unless you disable MSEs. fuck knows what that's about.

>>61326228
Who watches Youtube in a browser anyway? Everyone and his dog uses youtube-dl and mpv.

>>61324229
At some point, you have to force things into the modern world. Multiprocess is honestly a good thing.

I should probably delete my ten year old profile and start over by now but I'm too lazy.

>>61324268
Name me a decent alternative.

>>61324229
It still works on Nightly you tech illiterate fuck

>>61325920
>uBlock Origin
>uMatrix
I thought the point of Origin was to get rid of the need for uMatrix. I'm still using the first uBlock with it and haven't had a problem with it. Is there any reason to switch?

>>61324624
What the fuck?

>>61326446
The way they block things are completely different.
They actually complement each other, not replace one another.

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Still better than fucking Chrome.

I started using the Chrome release candidate before it was even officially released, back then it was phenomenal. When it first released I was riding the Chrome train hard and fucking hated Firefox by comparison but now it's just garbage. Firefox just works.

>>61326462
I guess I'm remembering things incorrectly, then. I could have sworn when I first installed Origin it had a built in matrix that was pretty much uMatrix lite. For autismo reasons I preferred having both things separate so I stuck with the first iteration uBlock.

>>61326273
please teach me how to do that properly. currently I have to copy the link, execute mpv with it and then it takes like 8 seconds for it to start playing the video. I have no problem doing that when the video is longer than let's say 10 minutes but otherwise it's kinda annoying and I just like click play in the browser where it starts instantaneously (and then often I get pissed off because it's too quiet and I can't go past 100% volume like in mpv)

Will I be able to use unlock origin in Firefox 57?

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>>61325920
>Self-Destructing Cookies
You can REEEEE now, anon

>>61327092
fucking faggot, hope he dies in his sleep

>>61327120
Fuck off Mozilla shill

>>61327137
suck my rainbow colored dick

>>61327178
No way, fag

>>61327185
pussy faggot

>>61324334
>t. Mozilla dev
When is servo going to be released?

Will I be able to use UBLOCK ORIGIN IN FIREFOX 57?

>>61324229
Firefox 57 is Chrome.

>>61327204
You're the faggot mozilla shill shilling for webextensions.

>>61327219
That's a true fact

>>61327257
are you retarded?

>>61324334
Including user scripts?
No user scripts, no deal.

>>61324423
i stopped updating firefox and i think i'll just keep using it without updates until i can get functionality like multiple tab handler and tree style tabs elsewhere. i don't think i can live without those

fuck mozilla though. this browser is now worthless

>>61327274
No but I'm you daddy

>>61327281
Very good plan

>>61327309
i realize it's stupid but treestyletabs + multiple tab handler makes the browser much, much better. and i don't really need updates for security with noscript and umatrix, unless these stop being updated too. well, i suppose they might

i've been satisfied with firefox since pre 1.0 and even the stupid release schedules or version 4.0 or whatever didn't piss me off. but man, this is fucking retarded. there's literally no reason to use this browser anymore

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>>61327217
Seems like he's working on it

>>61327092
someone will make a replacement. or even rewrite it because it's gpl

>>61324229
If you seriously think relevant addons won't be updated then you're retarded.

>>61324845
Help me get rid of add ons if any. I have these currently:

1. uBlock origin
2. smart https revived
3. decentraleyes
4. cookie autodelete
5. privacy badger
6. canvasblocker
7. noscript (using all but script blocking for now because noob)
8. privacy settings (to conveniently set/toggle about:config settings)
9. (umatrix disabled because noob for now)

>>61327731
>7. noscript (using all but script blocking for now because noob)
>9. (umatrix disabled because noob for now)
uMatrix is much easier and nicer to use than noscript.

>>61327731
Keep only uBlock Origin. Optimally keep uMatrix too.

>>61327788
For sure. Once I get a hold of script blocking I'll use umatrix for that. For now, I'm using the other noscript security features (XSS, clickjacking, CSRF). Maybe unnecessary?

>>61327806
Any guide for uMatrix? I've read to start off by globally allowing 1st party CSS and images, then go from there. But then I get lost. I don't know what to allow one by one for a broken site.

>>61327843
uMatrix is sort of like an expanded version of NoScript's ABE feature, but easier to use and understand. You click cells rather than write rules.

>>61327881
Stuff that's only pale red on the left is stuff you can try enabling first. The numbers tell you how many resources were or would have been loaded from that domain. Stuff that's deep red on the left are usually default site blocks and you should only enable them as a last resort.
Note that you may have to enable sites in NoScript first for uMatrix to see any activity from them.

>>61327919
Thanks dude! If I can have just uBlock origin and uMatrix for all my privacy and security needs I'll be so happy.

Is qute browser the future???!!!

>>61324229
*Chromium

>>61324423
There is a TabTree webext but I don't know how much longer it it will work with ui changes to keep you from customizing.
TabTree is less fully featured than tree style tabs though.

>>61328552
Chromes UI is completely locked, and so will FF. Sad day for browser customizing.

>>61329560
Incorrect, there are toolbar and sidebar APIs to support addons like TST and also for supporting addons like vimperator that rely on toolbars.

>>61329666
Not to mention there will be new APIs introduced to allow themes, stuff beyond simple backgrounds which is what chromium is limited to.

>>61324389
I'm downloading the iso.
http://www.netrunner.com/

>>61324334
>All the extensions in that picture have a WebExtension alternative or are not necessary since they're built-in features.
There is no web extension alternative to tree style tabs that doesn't look like garbage.

>>61324608
is this a joke
tell me that no one of us wrote this

>>61326457
It's a meme based on Yanderedev he says it's hard work to program and someone managed to look at his code and to see it was horribly written.

>>61324229
I don't even use any extensions any more
I mostly ignore my e-mail, I don't care enough to check on webcomics on a regular basis, and whatever else I had going must've not been important either

>>61325063
serious question, is there a plugin that makes the reply chain less annoying, or that embeds images and other things that are linked in posts?

>>61327092
Damn, I've switched to keepass a couple months ago and it's global auto-type to fill in forms without saving info in firefox.

SDC tied it all together so well.

>gtk3

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>>61330036
Why most of /g/ prefers to use an ordinary password manager instead of MasterPassword? Is it because nobody knows it or because the algorithm itself is bad? Serious question.

>>61329836
>Yanderedev
" I mentioned several reasons why the game’s development has slowed down so much. The two biggest problems were caused by JavaScript and Unity 4. For the past couple of months, tinyBuild has been working on converting the game from JavaScript to C# and porting the game from Unity 4 to Unity 5. I’ve got great news! While I was at Anime Expo, tinyBuild finished the JS ~ C# conversion and the Unity 4 ~ 5 conversion!"
He paid someone else to rewrite his code. Unbelievable.

What are the essential Firefox add ons for privacy and security?

>>61327456
Unless there's no API calls

>>61330934
Wow, this thread is full of edgy /pol/cucks

>>61330915
https://privacytoolsio.github.io/privacytools.io/

>>61330951
Triggered

>>61330975
Thanks. I've looked at that website and the referred links for guidance in the past and now I have 8 privacy/security add ons. I'm wondering if that's overkill because I've read on /g/ that uBlock origin is necessary plus maybe uMatrix.

I don't get how those two cover everything, unless the point is that the rest are ultimately ineffective at providing privacy/security

>>61324229
>using that many add ons

jesus, it must take you 10 minutes to load a page on 4chin, let alone any non shitty website

>>61324229
we?

Qutebrowser will be the new FOSS/secure browser once this happens, its already gaining traction.

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Mozilla Paris HQ

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>non of my useless apps work
>lefts start over without any of my apps

do you understand how stupid u sound OP?

delete all that bloat and enjoy the overhaul of performance in nightly

>muh sjw chromcuck even once

What are your opinions on forks like seamonkey ?

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Come home, white man.

>>61331185
But it's a chrome

>>61324469
>>61324565
>>61324586
>>61324686
>>61324697
>>61324750
>>61324793
fukin nerds

>>61331268
Chromium is not the same as chrome.

>>61324229
Without NoScript, there is literally no reason for me to stick with FF over Brave.

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>>61331185
I already am

>>61325920
You also need a good spoofer, Flash Control (blocks hidden html5 shit), disconnect, and DNSSEC/TLSA Validator.

>>61331185
If I could selectively allow scripts, like NoScript, instead of it being an all or nothing thing, I would already be there. It's my backup when I'm doing shit like applying for jobs, though.

>>61330639
Wow and the irony is it took him almost 4 years lol its beyond sad to me. It's kind of ironic that basically he became a lolcow the way he did and denied his exephon identity lol.

>>61331027
Ublock and umatrix work side by side with each other.

>>61330469
can't speak for /g/ but I use KeePass because it was the first one I encountered that seemed decent and I don't see a reason to switch

>>61331428
The developer for both runs Ublock in restricted mode.

>>61330469
I use KeePassX. I don't want shit getting entered automatically in my web browser, and I like the way they implemented 2FA (password and a file).

>>61324229
Install Firefox esr

Idgaf, I use QupZilla.

>>61327342
won't be browsing much with a cryptolocked disk

>>61331376
>You also need a good spoofer
I think a spoofer makes you stand out more https://github.com/nylira/prism-break/issues/965#issuecomment-41327903

Will Greasemonkey still work

>>61330469
it doesn't have many extensions, I use pass and it (almost) auto fills in firefox and chromium

>>61331350
I really like that, kinda puts you in perspective, even if "time saved" is inflated

>>61331770
Is there much of a difference between Qupzilla and Qutebrowser?

>>61331877
that logic is flawed indeed

with a random spoof agent, you can chose what fingerprint you want: windows - chrome , etc; while you're normally a "ubuntu - firefox nightly - bunch of puglins, etc

>>61330469
>using a password manager at all
Doesn't that kind of defeat the point of using multiple passwords? You're introducing a single point of failure

>>61332091
It's a completely different philosophy behind them - QupZilla is a "normal" browser mostly, while qutebrowser is focused on power users, has a much more minimal UI, and modal vim-like keybindings.

>>61330469
Keepass and things like it are actually more secure than masterpassword. With keepass you have an encrypted database of randomly generated passwords but with masterpassword all of the passwords are based off of a predetermined combination of your master password and the site name, which means that if anyone gets a hold of your password from even one website they could reverse engineer your master password and have all your passwords.

>>61331154
I've used seamonkey before, it's a little bit slower than firefox but not by much (mostly due to the integrated email and irc clients). Pretty much all firefox addons should work although sometimes you have to run them through a converter (it's online just search for it). Honestly it just has to many built in things for me, as I have separate email and irc clients that I use so firefox works well to just be a browser.

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>>61332190
I mean, using a single password for everything isn't a great idea either and it's the same point of failure but without encryption as an extra security layer.

And sure, you can "store" multiple passwords physically with a pencil and a piece of paper, but it's slower, less secure (anyone could found it easily) and more vulnerable to accidents with no fast method to do a backup.

>>61332190
It's still more secure than using the same password everywhere or using a password based on a pattern because with random passwords stored in a manager even when a site is exploited they can't use your password for any other site. If you use something like keepass and use a reasonably long password as the master password and maybe even an extra key file it makes it extremely hard for someone to get into the database anyway and is certainly more secure than the same password everywhere.

>Classic Theme Restorer
>This add-on will stop working when Firefox 57 arrives in November 2017 and Mozilla drops support for XUL / XPCOM / legacy add-ons.
>There is no "please port it" or "please add support for it" this time, because the entire add-on eco system changes and the technology behind this kind of add-on gets dropped without replacement.
Absolutely essential.
Good thing Waterfox is getting an ESR at 56.

>>61326273
Why the hell would someone do that?
There's no benefits and having to download a video in order to watch it is a fucking retarded idea unless we're talking about series or movies.

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>>61324229
Nope, i value privacy, so no Chromo for this homo.

>we
>i can't think for myself
>i must do everything people on g say
>i am literally retarded and a metaphorical sheep

You are so stupid it must hurt.

Probably just me but for some reason firefox glitches out pandora and causes the song to layer like an echo and only reloading the tab fixes it, but even then only temporarily.
Tried "updating" to nightly, but it never loaded anything properly, just a window divided into two sections with zero content at all, not even the firefox stuff. Only the minimize/restore/close things were working right.
Until then, I'm on chrome.

>>61332867
mpv can stream using youtube-dl

>>61332867
>not realizing all streaming video is essentially downloading

>>61333179
Ehh.. that's fair enough.

>>61333331
>not realizing that you can't watch that video until the download's complete compared to watching it directly through the browser
In any case, the other Anon already answered the problem that I had in mind.

>>61329723
>muh aesthetics
we dont want you here
feel free to just go use chrome

>>61326846
reduce your initial cache amount
keep in mind to include the time it takes to load the videos' page when comparing them, youtube-dl still needs to load the page itself (even if it's already open in your browser) before it can start loading the actual video

>>61324334
>built-in features
That's why I'm ditching FF.

>>61326427
any other browser

If it's broken in Firefox 57, it's not going to suddenly start working in Chrome. I'm going to switch to Waterfox, which keeps the XUL extensions.

>>61324334

Though not shown in OP's pic, Tree Style Tabs is an XUL extension that has no Web Extensions alternative, is not built in, and will never have a Web Extensions alternative until the API for Web Extensions gets extended to allow everything that it does. Managing dozens of tabs is a nightmare without Tree Style Tabs, and it's not a reasonable demand to say that I should stop having 20+ tabs open. Wanting to keep XUL isn't retarded; it's a necessity for a usable browsing experience.

>>61333536
>>not realizing that you can't watch that video until the download's complete compared to watching it directly through the browser
>not realizing that that is complete bs as any video player worth using has no trouble viewing videos download-in-progress

>>61325938
used privoxy/blockers, but if you ever have to do work or banking, it's like playing russian roulette. you never know when a HTTP request that is critical might fail due to the host based blocking.

>>61331185
> paying to read web pages
Fuck off.

What did they do to break so many plugins?

>>61329836
The cs grad meme isn't based on Yanderedev. Lurk moar

>>61333899
SJW shit

>>61332190
It is and that's why I'm using pen and paper.

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>>61324229
rip

>>61324334
I thought there was supposed to be some big list of extensions that were going to be updated to be compatible.

Why are all of mine marked as legacy; where are the updates?

>>61334026
The authors of the plugins will update them.

>>61324229
You realize nobody gives a shit about abandoned addons and useless addons? The only addon you need on firefox is uBlock Origin. It works with multi-processing. Look at your list. All of those are useless. Nothing of value was lost. Prove me wrong.
The only useful addon there is "cache viewer" and I doubt something like that won't exist.

>>61331877
They can know you are using a spoofer. That doesn't mean they know what your actual web browser is, though. Furthermore, I can literally just switch from FF stable on Linux Mint to FF stable on Windows 10, and the number of users with my browser settings goes UP.

>>61334235
I would rather go without Ublock Origin than go without NoScript.

>>61331320
Literally the same as chrome.

>>61331579
Check out KeePassXC if you haven't yet. it's KeepassX forked, as keepassx is kinda dead.

>>61334348
It literally updated when you jumped from Mint 17 to Mint 18.

>>61334373
It literally updated just when we went from being monkeys to being homos.

>>6133402
Some of these addons are still on the process of being ported to the new API. Protip: if your addon is aviable on Chrome chances are it will be aviable on Firefox 57.

>>61326427
Internet Explorer with Norton plugin

>>61324423
At least SeaMonkey has vertical tabs. It doesn't have tab stacks or whatever they're called in Fx but it's still something

>>61324793
>>61324697
WebKit's not deprecated; it's merely not used in Chromium(-based) browsers anymore.

>>61334070
We hope they'll update their addons. The ones that do, you may find their addon doesn't do half of what it did before web extensions.

>>61324510
It is snappier and faster if you have the multiprocess enabled (check about:support). Felt pretty nice but I still couldn't use it because I had to disable nearly all addons. I guess I'll check back in a matter of months, maybe there will be multiprocess-compatible addons for all my usecases then.

Am i understanding it correctly that webkit doesnt support low-level api's like xul did ?

>>61334312
uMatrix is better

>>61335757
s/webkit/webextensions/; then yes

>not writing your own addons to replace dead ones

This is how I learned the WebExtensions API sucks cocks in comparison

>>61327281
>>61324459
>>61324229
>>61324303
https://wiki.mozilla.org/Add-ons/ShimsNightly

Nightly user here, probably this can will be possible in FF 57 too.

>>61334070
hahahaha no they wont.
changing plugin sdk twice in one year was enough, this is the last straw

>>61324256
Except when they remove XUL

>>61327275
Tampermonkey.

>>61331185
It's completely shit on desktop.

Pretty good on Android though.

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>>61336274
Just use Violentmonkey.

It's open source, while Tampermonkey is not.

>>61324229
Fucking dropped.

>>61336252
My understanding is they're not actually going to remove the old APIs, at least not on Nightly. People on Nightly will be able to use the old APIs but once 57 lands Mozilla devs will no longer be forced to back out changes that break compatibility with the old addons. People still relying on the old APIs will be completely on their own as far as support.

>no Mozilla Archive Format
>no UnMHT
>Save Page WE is streaming pile of shit
>both MAF and UnMHT are literally impossible with WebExtensions API
I'm staying on 56.

>>61337376
When did tampermonkey go full botnet?

>>61326228
>Youtube crashes it unless you disable MSEs. fuck knows what that's about.
doesn't crash for me, but HTML5+MSE won't simply play for me. and twitch is equally broken.
but 27.4 was just released, with fixes for MSE.
>Completely re-worked the Media Source Extensions code to make it spec compliant, and asynchronous as per specification for MSE with MP4. This should fix playback problems on YouTube, Twitch, Vimeo and other sites that previously had some issues.

>>61338651
I don't know.
I just said that it's closed source, while Violentmonkey is open source.

Why no go with Violentmonkey, right? :^)

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>>61326228
I like Pale Moon but for some reason reCAPTCHA fucking hates it.

>>61329836
>someone managed to look at his code
they ran it through a .net decompiler. The compiler can optimize, unroll loops, and move things around. Decompiled code is not representative of the original.

>>61324909
firefucks is a fucking 60 MB browser
my 100kb tree tab addon is not slowing shit down
their spaghetti feminist/pajeet code is.

>>61327966
If you're a beginner to this kind of stuff you could probably make due with "Advanced Mode" inside of uBlock Origin.
Once you're comfortable with that you can move onto uMatrix which uses a familiar cell-based interface but with much more granular control over types of content.

>>61324909
how many times does it have to be said? there's no reason to use this shitheap of a browser outside of extensions

>>61340225
>measuring slowdown in bytes
that's fucking retarded, but what can you expect from /pol/ spillover. I can completely fuck your shit up with an infinite loop that takes a couple of bytes

>>61340298
there absolutely has to be a viable, free alternative to chrome, even if noone uses it. monopolies lead to stagnation

>>61340679
that's not the point. the point is firefox does a lot of shit that I don't want/need it to do, whereas my addons are small and simple and aren't slowing anything down. restarting with addons disabled shows the exact same slowdown. the problem is firefox itself, and if they keep removing good features and adding new shit nobody wants, it will only get worse. Not only will we get the slowdown from their new "features", we will also need new addons to reverse the removal of actual functionality.

>>61340778
>restarting with addons disabled shows the exact same slowdown. the problem is firefox itself
that's why they're stripping legacy bloat and replacing it with new, higher performance stuff https://wiki.mozilla.org/Quantum

>>61340988
>adblock and tree tabs are "legacy bloat"
THEY"RE ALL I FUCKING WANT IN A BROWSER

>>61341054
adblock works. as for tree style tabs I'm glad that they don't hesitate to remove old api that doesn't work in multi-process environment despite the whining of a couple of autists that can't manage to keep their tab count reasonable.
also it might be possible for extensions like tree style tabs to still work when legacy extensions are disabled because that will happen in november and it's fucking july

>>61341131
https://testpilot.firefox.com/experiments/tab-center/
I just googled it and it indeed looks like they're going to make that happen before the november release. all that fucking autistic screeching for nothing

>>61341131
Nothing prevents XUL addons from being multiprocess-compatible, it's just up to the addon developer to implement it. The only reason XUL is being deprecated is because mozilla cannot be bothered maintaining it.

>>61341131
>old api that doesn't work in multi-process environment
kys retard
the right thing to do is either
a) make it work
b) replace it with an API that gives THE EXACT SAME FUNCTIONALITY with a different, multi-process-friendly implementation

>>61341205
>>61341218
if something consumes let's say 20% of your dev time for maintenance and integration with other new systems and is used by 1% of users then you should cut it. that's like software development 101

>>61341315
>20% of your dev time
if that's the case they're shitty devs.

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>>61341386
yes, everyone is an incompetent shit sjw botnet pajeet. the armchair experts of /g/ are much better web browser developers than mozilla

>>61341445
yes

>let's stop using a browser that actually forces devs to make their shitty addons multiprocess compatible and start using one that is a complete botnet and won't allow nonapproved addons at all
Children pls.

>>61326427
palemoon

>>61324229
just use Firefox ESR

>>61324229
Probably gonna switch to GNU IceCat

>>61341197
this is shit too. it's not just about the tabs being on the right. they need to be like trees (children etc) and they need to be retractable. as it is, that only deals with one aspect of the problem -- and the least important one, might i add

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>>61324229


HOLY SHIT! I've been trying FF 57 nightly now, and I'm having a panic attack if this is the fucking route Mozilla is taking.

This is turning into the biggest piece of shit browser. How the fuck can they go from bad to worse to garbage? Firefox is going to drop form 15% marketshare to 5% just months after they officially release this crap.

Fist off, nearly all my addons are fucking gone. Customizing the UI gone. Sped wise, I notice nothing better.

Then I came across a built-in screenshot feature THAT AUTOMATICALLY SAVES YOUR SHIT TO THE CLOUD. Are you fucking serious? Why in the fuck would I want a screenshot, that might be a pic of personal banking info saved to the fucking cloud?!?!

Then I was looking at Tab containers they added. Yet another horrible, pathetically amateurish replacement of of an addon (multifox) that did it ten times better.

Oh well, guess my precious Firefox is going tits up in November. Palemoon and those other forks are garbage as well. As much as I hate Chrome, I've slowly gotten used to it.

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Consider the following

>>61341608
it's not finished

>>61341658
how can they keep denying it and pretending literally everyone who has been using this shit for more than a decade is wrong? it doesn't make any sense. they are wrong and refuse to admit it. firefox is not gonna survive without extensions. the people in charge must be getting paid to destroy firefox or something

>>61341736
>firefox is not gonna survive without extensions
firefox will never stop having extensions

lmfao fucking virgin neckbeards. FF 57 is better than ever. It's finally fucking fast and snappy.

Most important addons have already been ported to WebExt

uBlock
uMatrix
Cookie AutoDelete
Tampermonkey

>>61341736
That was the whole point of getting rid of Eich under flaky pretenses.

>>61341555
Those that come from AOL shall return to AOL.

>>61324686
>Uses C
>Calls other people virgins

>>61324229
All crapware. We honestly do need to purge some addons. Like make uBlock Origin the only one available.

>>61341815
This. Anything important is supported on my Nightly right now.

>>61327731
>Cookies auto-delete
>He can't do this is in his browser settings

>>61341830
>AOL
Exactly what relevance does that have to anything I said?

>>61341913
>AOL
>Exactly what relevance does that have to anything I said?
Mozilla corporate lineage.
Mozilla's new walled garden.
Being this unaware of Chromium, which unlike the menagerie of Firefox offshoots is actually competent.
But you'll be okay. You get up to 750 hours/month FREE.

>>61341876
Kill yourself fagoot. If I wanted a browser that just had one fucking addon, I'd use Microsoft Edge.

The highly customizable addon community is what made Firefox, and it's what drew everyone from Microsoft.

Mozilla got fucked when Chrome came out because Google had the brand name everyone trusted, not to mention Google offered cloud syncing across devices, which made it worth the move.

Firefox cannot compete with Googles deep pockets and Android syncing, so Mozilla should just concentrate on keeping their 15% marketshare, which are those that use Firefox because of its addon community. Instead Mozilla has alienated add-on devs, locked down their browser, and they'll lose what remaining userbase they have because of that.

>>61342033
>https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/tag/firefox57
>over 3000 addons that support WebExt
>just one Addon
You're the fucking retard here

>>61342033
You realize 50% of addons there are worthless garbage anyway?

>draw everyone from Microsoft
Oh fuck off. A browser has nothing to do with an OS.

>sync
Firefox has sync.

They're moving to a faster engine overall which has finally reached amazing speeds in this era when all sites are optimized for chrome specifically. You're a retarded piece of shit who just wants to stagnate development. Addons can be rewritten so there's no reason for you to spread your shit propaganda.

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>>61341662
>another chromium fork

Just use chromium.

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>>61342167
>Firefox has sync.
>They're moving to a faster engine overall which has finally reached amazing speeds in this era

>>61342215
What are you implying here? Firefox does have sync I use it all the time. And their browser is noticeably faster on desktop than it was a few months ago.

What the fuck autismal runs so many plugins? I run an adblock and that's it. Fucking chromecucks are you being paid to shitpost Firefox?

>>61325920
>>61327092
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/cookie-autodelete/

>>61342389
i've got news for you, newfriend. you don't know how to use firefox. you'd actually be better served by chrome if all you use is adblock

>>61342413

Fuck off cuckold, it's only internet. Maybe I'd you didn't spend so much time on the internet you wouldn't be such a fagets.

>>61342478
back to /v/, kid

>>61341658
>Customizing the UI gone
laff

>>61342406
Webextensions cannot delete local storage.

>>61342413
he's probably just a mozi employee trying to keep the last remnants of their userbase from fleeing.

>>61342389
>a supposed firefox user arguing against using many plugins
wow, never thought i'd see the day

>>61342534
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/WebExtensions/API/Storage/StorageArea/clear

will he ever recover?

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>>61342534
>yet

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>>61341658

>Then I came across a built-in screenshot feature THAT AUTOMATICALLY SAVES YOUR SHIT TO THE CLOUD

I'll take "What is a browser in beta looking to gather information on what users actually do with said browser" for 500 Alex

are you naive or delusional?
Unless you are behind ninety proxies, have a criminal background aka part of ISIS or some shit like that why do you care?

It's like home security; if someone wants to fucking break into your house, oh ho they'll find a way.
The dude at mozilla could give two fucks about your 928$ welfare deposit sage sage and as always

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time to burn everything to the ground and build something new

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14753546

>>61342767
>>61342389
>>61342269
>>61342167

Mozilla employees on damage control

I'd rather run Netscape than join the botnet.

>>61342851
Netscape is where Firefox came from...

>>61333859
I have to disable it for my bank
the page loads just fine but the account history doesnt for some reason

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>>61342794
lel

>>61333765
this, I love tree style tabs
the "just open another window" solution is similar to "just get a ssd" to fixing windows being slow as fuck

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>>61344298
more lel

>>61342809
underrated post

>>61324303
>DownThemAll! dev giving up
oh shit

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>>61344332
>>61344298
>>61342794

>>61344371
firefox is the browserlet though :o)

>>61329900
I just tell my server to autodownload comics
if a site doesn't have RSS I bug them until they set it up

>>61337350
I just use Firefox on android (for ublock), should I consider another browser instead?

>>61341562
Palemoon seems to do pretty terribly on benchmarks compared to most other browsers, which is kind of disappointing.

this is what happens when you let SJW's run tech companies

>>61344521
i know, right? i just can't use a browser that doesn't have at least 1530 bogomarks in this week's benchmarking tool
seriously, are you mining bitcoins in javascript?

>>61331185
holy shit I just tried this browser out because of you
lightning

>>61325947
They're a zombie at this point. They have no plan after 52 ESR.

>>61324229
When is that being released

>>61324229
still on XP here ... don't think I get updates anymore.. ver 52.2.1 (32-bit).

The only think I like on FF is the history library.. that is a much more useful way of doing this than chrome.. other than that I find I am unable to play most web videos like in twitter and fagboob and just most other pages .. Opera wont install anymore so is there an alternative? Are there archived old versions I can download?

>>61345112
Try a recent fucking OS. Loonix is free, and cheap Windows licenses can be had cheap if you aren't a retard.

>>61344512
I feel that Firefox for Android still feels much slower and 'heavy' than Chromium derivatives.
Maybe with the code from Servo that's being incorporated in Firefox it will get snappier.

Brave on the other hand is just Chrome without the botnet, and a pretty good ad/track blocker.

I do plan on going back to Firefox on Android too, but I will wait some more updates before I do it.

Also, I must say that Firefox Focus is kinda interesting for some fast browsing. Too crude for a main browser though.

>>61324229
I wonder (((who))) is behind this shillpost...

>>61342767
>nothing to hide meme
Honestly kill yourself

>>61348026
the illuminati?

>>61344951
why not support and maintain it then instead of coming up with shit browsers like memerunner

>>61329924
4chanx you fucking retard

>>61324229
You switched to chrome in 2014 m8