linux bankrupt & finished

It's like Linux, without Linux or any of the benefits.

>implying the windows do pay to cannonical to put ubuntu in them store

FUD is bad, go to bed MS drone.

>>61318551
Daily reminder : Windows 10 is superior to all linux distro.

>>61318658
Would be. If it worked properly and didn't spy on the user. Under Windows 10 there is a marvelous operating system just waiting to be set free. But I'm not gonna rely on Microsoft to realise this, put the real techs in charge and start delivering again. Enough is enough.

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>>61318551
Why use Linux anymore if you can have this?

>>61318551
So you admit windows sucks and having something from linux is an improvement?

>>61318742
Because not everything works properly in it.

>>61318551
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>61318742
WTF
>>help poor children in uganda
do they have to push their SJW bullshit everwhere?

>>61318849
is this bait?

>>61318551
>ubuntu
Nice meme

>>61318849
>Program from the last century wanting to help poor children
>Get called SJW even when you existed before the movement even started

Oh yeah, Summertime

>>61319008
how is that bait?

>>61319027
Or /pol/time.

>>61319056
I guess SJW = people I don't like now

>>61318565
It's easy to install shit...everyone writes .deb files/guide specifically for ubuntu so it's easy.

Good for testing when running platforms in virtual manager/qemu.

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>>61319008
>>61319027
>>61319061
>>61319082
Look at all these seething SJW cucks

8 more years! Praise KEK!

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>>61318691
>Spy on the user
You faggots still don't know how to configure fucking windows properly

>>61319134
?
Now this is the /g/ I signed up for

so if you want to learn linux do you use this or just install it

>>61319134
>Hey look, a smug applefag
Gay.

>>61318565
>this delusion is actually real

>>61318767
It's still in beta and has it's improved tremendously since release

Well played, Microsoft.

>>61318751
>what is WINE?
So you admit linux sucks and having something from windows is an improvement?

>>61319144
>thinks that just because an option is turned off = muh privacy

>>61319179
If you want to learn how to use Linux, install Linux, and go balls deep. If you want access to ssh and git, this is probably completely sufficient.

>>61319179
Yes you can

it works fine. they fixed piping and mouse in the new update i think.

>>61319258
>piping
how did piping not work?

>>61319287
>how did piping not work
Piping between the windows and linux worlds did not work.

It great to have Linux as a Windows app now. It'll even update automatically via the store, which is nice.

>>61319293
Oh, okay. I was gonna say, it'd be totally fucked if they didn't even have piping between WSL processes

>>61318849
>people trying to do good in the world
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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>>61318849
yes because helping poor people is equivalent to degeneracy.

>>61319144
Once again it's the users fault. Fuck you Microsoft I'm joining this board now. I'm not going to shave either until you fix Windows 10. We Linux users now.

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>>61319469
I honestly don't give a shit what you 1 digit IQ brainlet will do

>>61318551
alright sweetheart

>>61318742
>>61318849
just install neovim

>>61319587
>claims not to care
>shills for M*cros**t in every thread
Enjoy your botnet :P

>>61318551
How does Canonical make money? What's their plan for the future now that their investment into Ubuntu failed?

>>61319675
Follow Red Hat, aka forget about the Loonix desktop meme and focus on the enterprise, servers, IoT and such.

>>61319675
Support licensing

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>>61318849

>>61319144
>4 ears
wot in tarnation

>>61318849
I'm not paid to read this

>>61319383
>>61319027
>>61319398
>Feeding a population that cant sustain itself so it grows even bigger while there is no increase in domestic supplies which increases the problem just even more
Nothing does more damage to africa and the whole world than food donations.
Worst of all, food donation also destroy any incentive to produce their own food, because nobody even if he wants to work, can compete with literally food for free.

>>61318658
>Incomplete customization.
>Spyware.
>Adware on start menu
>Automatically downloads shitty apps and games from microsoft.
>If you disable Cortana it will activate it again in every update and also puts the Store and Edge icons in the taskbar back if you remove them.

No thanks, I'm the owner of my computer.

>>61320126
Good, then let us work on educating these people on how to grow their own food so that we don't have to donate anymore.

>cacneling litearlly every in-house project
>firing half of their staff
>moving towards IPO
If that's not a sign of a dying company, I don't know what is
Shuttleworth will probably completely sell it to Amazon in a year or two

>>61320244
He just realized Desktop Linux is worthless, the community is a joke and (((FSF))) are plain old communists.

>>61318551
>you can flawlessly emulate windows in a KVM with less than 10% performance difference. Gain the full OS and all of it's functionality and software support. All while also being able to block even more botnet AND running Linux along with it.
vs
>you can install Ubuntu as an app with 1% of it's functionality.

Hmm... looks like (((Microsoft))) windows is still lagging behind.

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>>61318551
Ok

>>61318551
You know linux is a kernel right?
And plus, the important shit doesn't even work there.

>>61320384
How do I do this

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>>61318742
>vim
>in windows 10

how big of a faggot are you

>>61320405
>you seriously did that just to shitpost

>>61318551

you mean ubuntu is finished, not linux

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>>61319144
>kemonoposting on a technology board

You retards are basically barneyfags and deserve containment more than /mlp/ at this point.

>>61320192
>tfw cortana service doesn't exist in your country yet

>>61320564
No Linux is the OS. Ubuntu is the kernel. That's why so many distros are forks of Ubuntu, duh.

That's why it'll never be the year of the Linux Desktop. Everyone will just run Ubuntu.

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>>61318551
>Uptime limited to 12 hours because Windoes can choose to cuck you with random reboots
Boi

>>61318742
Does ssh work in it? Because ive been using a virtual machine with lubuntu on it for needing to ssh

(And i know of putty, just dont like it)

>>61320772
Yes

It's pretty fucking useless, you can't even edit Linux files.

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>>61320696
?

>>61320772
that's pretty much all I use it for except for using cowsay once in a while to amuse myself

>>61320677
Do you realize where you are?

>>61319192
>delusion
I mean, it does not run on Linux kernel and it doesn't have the privacy or security (because you're still on Windows) of Linux.

Sure it's extremely nice for Windows users but VMs have been around forever and with SSDs dual booting takes no time at all.

I don't really get these threads anyways, why would I go back to Windows just so I can use Linux? I don't play video games.

>>61318767
Just like the real thing.

>>61320853
Wine is just a program and it's portable to other Unix systems as well.
WSL has to be partly implemented in the kernel.

>>61320906
>VMs have been around forever
>let me just boot an entire separate operating system and waste hundreds of megabytes of ram to run a single program

>SSDs dual booting takes no time at all
>let me just close all of the programs I currently have open and interrupt my workflow before I can boot linux to run a program

>>61320995
You're missing his point. He's saying there's no reason to leave Linux to run Linux programs on top of Windows.

>>61320906
You're also missing the point.

Sometimes you don't want to run a VM, which can use more resources than WSL, or you don't want to waste storage space (don't pull the "but my 3TB hard drive will never fill" or ">poorfag, can't afford a 3TB hard dive" crap, that's deflecting). On top of that, maybe you don't want to go to the trouble of installing a distro to a separate partition, which brings with it risks. Maybe you're on a machine with secure boot and you don't know how to disable it. Maybe you want to develop for Linux but for some reason want to also be running Windows (and not in its own VM). There are plenty of valid reasons to want to do this.

Also, even installing Ubuntu can be scary to some people. Many who may be curious end up shying away because the task seems daunting. This can alleviate their fears a bit, and may encourage them to go further.

>>61321156
>He's saying there's no reason to leave Linux to run Linux programs on top of Windows
That the first sentence and a valid point if you don't need to run Windows programs.
The second sentence says it's "nice...but" as if VMs and dual booting are somehow a comparable alternative.

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>>61318551
It's still proprietary software...

>>61319224
I don't use wine.
Also they did not take any part of windows to make wine. They built it from scratch.

>>61320931
Linux shills btfo

>>61318551
Embrace.
Extend.
Extinguish.

>>61318565
It's actually really nice. I wanted git and cmake but not to fuck around with windows installers and shit. Glad that Microsoft finally understands that a fix to windows is installing linux

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>>61321717
>they did not take any part of windows to make wine
Except the part where you need to use winetricks to install various redistributables, fonts and original windows dlls to get most bigger applications to run.
And even then it barely works.

>>61318551
can we have a Windows 10 repository next?

sudo apt-get install windows10

without the spyware.

>>61320768
fuckin lmao

>>61318658
Windows 10 is superior
>runs exes
>swiss cheese security wise
>retarded comunity
>retarded interface
>lacks features
>$$$
>in-window commercials
yea.. it's le top

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>>61319644
neovim also displays that message.

>>61324728
where? i don't see it

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>>61324763
Didn't check the screenshot before uploading. Maybe it's not displayed every time?

>>61319293
Mario was having trouble passing between words via the pipes. it was sad to watch really

>>61324829
oh
i use emacs almost every time so i've never seen it in nvim

>>61320202
>then let us work on educating these people

No amount of education can change racial inferiority. Whites have built schools and infrastructure in Africa ever since the first colonies and after apartheid ended and control was given to blacks, everything started crashing. Why do you think all the famines, wars and genocides skyrocketed AFTER the end of apartheid? Why do you think the Chinese are taking over Africa. Blacks are intellectually incapable of ruling and providing for themselves.

>>61318551
>unironically believing that microsoft being rich and windows being unfinished is better

>>61318565
It's actually just Bash, the only benefit of Linux before power shell. Now there is now benefit whatsover.

>>61326569
I wish they would finish Windows 10

>>61319587
>can't work linux
>loves the botnet to the point of shilling
>calls everyone who doesn't a brainlet
you cant make this up

>>61318551
>Free as in free beer

>>61322099
Goal, the post

>>61327518
I never understood this phrase. Is it like a sarcastic version of "There's no such thing as a free lunch" or does it unironically mean 100% free of charge? Or does it mean free of charge but not free otherwise, like preinstalled windows?

>>61320696
/thread

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embrace extend extinguish

>>61321784
Exactly it's like they're trying to brute force it

>>61318551
If you had used the Linux subsystem for Windows (seriously -- not just tinker with it) you would disagree.

It has massive stability problems. Under any kind of strain and advanced operation, you can expect either the subsystem to crash (in the form of it becoming totally unresponsive -- you won't be able to launch any programs under it, and your shell will even stop accepting input) or even worse, a BSOD.

Worse yet, it's very slow. Certain programs (i.e. sbcl) do not run on it.

Want to run Docker (or any virtualization) and setup a shared folder between the Windows host and something running on the Linux subsystem? Get ready to lose data, because you'll get IO errors and files __will be__ corrupted.

It's one steaming pile of shit, about 10% better than cygwin.

>>61320772
Sort of. It has some big stability problems when you're multi-hopping. I wouldn't recommend it if you are doing anything beyond single, non-automated connections.

>>61318551
>4 1/2 stars
I'l wait for when linux can manage 5 stars, thanks

"I wish Windows could run ____ which is exclusive to Linux"
Can /g/ fill in the blank?

>>61328037
Android apps

>>61327960
It's still in beta they have a lot they want to accomplish before it hits actual release, as of right now it's only in the store for those in Fast/Slow Insider rings (or in windows features for the rest of us).

But anything is better than cygwin tbqh

>>61328037
smoothly

>>61328048
Android is as much Linux as iOS is BSD
Besides Google is getting right of the Linux part anyways

>>61328037
I wish Windows could run docker and virtual box at the same time, which literally every other OS can do.

What do I win?

>>61328080
Stallman feet crust
Hope you're hungry

>>61327580
guys this is a real question guys

>>61328077
No, android is as much Linux as Windows is NT. Linux is a kernel used by GNU, Android and Sailfish operating systems. So what you're probably talking about is GNU, which is the desktop OS running on the Linux kernel.

>>61319134
> kek
Kys, redditor

>>61328037
This is a pretty poor metric for how good an OS is. Besides from games, basically all applications have Linux and Windows ports at this point.

Ultimately, Windows will fail because of a lack of developers. Linux runs on most servers. Why would developers want to go home and work on a system totally foreign to them? They'll use Linux at home. Meanwhile, Windows can never hope to break into the server market like Linux has, because the system is simply too difficult to administer and too large.

Windows will continue to slowly rot. It (and Microsoft) still have many years of existence, but their best days are behind them.

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>>61318551
>>61318742
>using confirmed malware as an operating system
Typically Pajeets.
>"b-b-but muh placebo tools!"
This is why even the macfags laugh at you.

>>61328037
But windows can't into PS4 games. I guess that makes it garbage, right? Where are your gayms :^)?

>>61328233
Adobe shit and some mainstream dev software still don't have Linux support.
>windows will rot
They have enough money and control over the market to never go away. They literally dominate windows users. An example of this is that even though it was stated everywhere that windows 10 spies on you and everyone was talking about it, it still got over 33% desktop usage. Microsoft can do whatever the fuck they want now. It's like 1984. You can't escape from it. Nobody accepts that there are other alternatives.
Unless you take some massive and coordinated action against Microsoft it will never fade below 85% of the desktop market.
Plus their OS could become free very soon since they're set to follow Google's route in selling your personal info for ads instead of charging you for the OS. So if their marketshare starts falling, they will make windows free of charge.
This makes things bad in the long run. However good Linux may be, Microsoft has the developer power to make an amazing server OS and since everyone knows windows from their childhood, they will prefer it on the servers as well.

I honestly wish it falls to at least 75% desktop market share, but I don't see a scenario where that'd happen.

>>61321971
this, win 10 + WSL is actually comfy af for native development.
>all of the benefits of unix command line tools
>without god awful driver support / GUI

>>61327580
It unironically means free of charge, as a contrast to "free as in freedom". See gratis vs libre.

Also, preinstalled Windows was never free, it's price is officially included into the price of the laptop/pre-built PC

>>61328360
>Unless you take some massive and coordinated action against Microsoft it will never fade below 85% of the desktop market.
Like what? Rolling up their sleeves and bringing Linux desktop up to snuff? Not gonna happen, /g/ can only rice their Arch & whine.

Also, Windows market share WILL fade, but not because of Linux. People less and less need desktop PCs and they're becoming a nerd thing again. Chinese android box has netflix and facebook, costs like a toy, makes no noise and requires zero maintenence. If it malfunctions you just buy a new one.

And average people who "know windows from their childhood" don't need Windows servers either. They need SaaS and there's plenty of that.

>>61318551
Oh, the dreams never die...

>>61328767
>like what
>bringing Linux
No. Literally attacking Microsoft's servers and backups. Stealing source codes and leaking them everywhere for mods without m$ botnet, or attacking the company itself and winning. The only way windows would fade is by sabotage.
If you think a company that big won't adapt you're delusional. All they need is a small economic sacrifice to bring windows to everyone of this generation for cheaper than their competitors, keep everyone addicted to it and that's it. They're back.

>android box
>android
So it is because of Linux?

As long as kids are forcing their parents to buy them windows computers for their games windows will be in almost every household.

I don't know where you live but right now most people have 2 computers/laptops in their homes. So computers aren't a "nerd thing".

>>61318551
How does this differ from WSL?

>>61319134
Why do /pol/tards act EXACTLY like redditors?
Is it coincidence?

>>61328151
>So what you're probably talking about is GNU, which is the desktop OS running on the Linux kernel.
Or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.

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It's going to be very enjoyable watching the freetards' heads explode when Microsoft finally flushes their big bowl of turds (distros)

>>61328444
Between chocolatey and wsl I must admit I've switched to using win 10 full time for development. Visual studio (with vsvim) is definitely one of the most polished IDE's.

It's frustrating using linux and experiencing some of the same problems I had ten years ago (It has gotten better than it used to be though).

I'm really just saving myself from having to dual boot.

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>>61328917
>their fw computing goes to shit because of gaymers

>>61328444
If there weren't this knowledge in your mind that every time you watch porn, microsoft is watching

>>61318658
HAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAH good fucking joke man

>>61318849
>>61324728
"set shortmess=I" without quotes in .vimrc or init.vm

>>61329731
*init.vim