why are women not interested in technology as much as men?

>>61269292
more of this cute girl?

i dunno

General biological inclinations towards people-oriented hobbies and jobs as opposed to men's inclination towards object orientation.

They don't need to be. They get everything handed to them from losers like you who put them on a pedestal

>>61269292
Daddy is better at fixing the car, while mummy is better at fixing the diaper.
>/thread

>>61269292
I think technology is morden's day of tools, woodworking, fixing/working on cars or grilling.

I think most women just want their tech to work and they don't care about it in an enthusiast way.

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women make better engineers

>>61269401
saw a community engineer, had to think of what what entailed.

>>61269401
>Interaction Engineer

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHA

*breathes in*

HAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAA

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>>61269292
>>61269306
The only way we will get women in the industry is by ending objectification once and for all.

Only use functional languages, unless you are a misogynist.

>>61269309
This. Most women never have to solve problems themselves. They always get other people to do it. For example, a father will work with his son on his car. That's how he learns. But if a woman's car breaks down she just expects someone else to fix it. She doesn't car about what the problem is or how it's solved. That's how they grew up. If they had trouble with school work they'd get leniency. Or they just ask someone for help, which usually means someone else just guides them through it without them learning.

As long as they're not a hambeast (pretty fucking easy just don't eat like a pig and do some mild exercise) then they can get most things handed to them. Hell, a mid-grade prostitute makes $500 an hour in the US. Why would they bother with real work?

>>61269292
Social norms. That stuff /pol/ jacks off over all the time.

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>>61269393
This
In the same way men can't understand why the fuck women care about shit like clothes so much, women can't understand why men care about shit like cars and computers so much

Most men find fixing and working with things give them a sense of accomplishment and women actually find men who do that more attractive, because its built into the sexual dichotomy of humans (god forbid you bring up such a thing to a tranny though)

>>61269401
what in the fucks name is an interaction engineer

>>61269292
Sauce?

>>61269457
Lol rip that kid

They are, but they're not the women you pay attention to.

>>61269457
>In the same way men can't understand why the fuck women care about shit like clothes so much
Speak for yourself, I can understand wanting to look nice and I'm an engineer.

>>61269481
I don't mean just caring about what you wear, I mean the way many women are obsessed with clothes, even the ones they never fucking wear

>>61269292
IQ distribution, the male distribution is much wider. Hence we're more likely to have a 120+ IQ. We're also more likely to have a <90 IQ. So while there are more male CEOs, engineers, physicists, there are also more criminals. Also, more grey matter and better spatial reasoning, hence why women tend to go for cushier, middle-class, interaction based jobs, e.g receptionist at the bottom end, lawyer at the top end.

>>61269457
what the fuck

>>61269505
Not hard to understand either. I have lots of shit I don't wear. They just happen to have more variation in clothing than men. It's easy for me to get by with a few pairs of slacks, some button down shirts, and a couple pairs of shoes. Women need to get a bit more creative because a huge amount of their value is in looking good and they're constantly judged by other women in that regard. So they have a billion different outfits because some vapid chick will notice if she's wearing the same thing twice in X number of days. Which I can also understand, people are assholes and lots of women need to feel superior. Men do it through ability or wealth and women do it through aesthetics.

>>61269466
A fancier sounding name for a party planner.

>>61269292
too stupid

>>61269292
Men have hobbies and women don't, it's the way it's always been

>>61269292
>>61269507
This anon is getting close. One of the FEW known cognitive disparities linked to sex is SPATIAL REASONING. Men across the board perform spatial reasoning tasks much more effectively than women if a time constraint is present. Taking this into account, it isn't really surprising that most craftspeople, technicians and engineers end up being male, since it is likely we are predisposed to handle spatial problems better.

>>61269721
Yup. Actually saw a documentary on this some time ago. Sadly I can't recall what it was called.
Don't quote me on this but it was something about hormones and brain development which meant men were generally better at, and found satisfaction on a very basic level, working with almost any kind of system and putting things together.
Also, first reply in this thread is a fine example of why tech-communities scare women away.

>>61269812
>Don't quote me on this
Fuck you, you can't tell me what to do. I'm using your post on my thesis. Actually I'm basing the whole paper on your post.

>>61269450
I've noticed exactly this when just forming normal friendships with women.
A lot of girls, especially pretty ones, just simply never had to develop themselves. They were always included in social events, never had to find friends, never had to make themselves into something more, because, hey, you're a 7/10 and some dude will always give you the time of day.

This all came as a bit of a surprise to me when I was a very young man, since my mother is very intelligent, educated, and grasps concepts quickly. I didn't understand, for a while, why it seemed like many people were on mental auto-pilot.

Obviously this is a massive over-generalization, and there are plenty of attractive women who are mentally "there", but they're a minority.

I personally don't really give too much of a fuck, because I'm not exactly a looker myself.

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>>61269306
>object orientation

>>61269300
https://creepshots.org/hot-teen-cleavage-class-photos/

>>61269836
reddit

>>61269292
they're too busy pursuing vanity to pursue anything else. while a woman's buisy doing her makeup a man is buisy fixing up his car. while a woman's buisy wasting her money on clothes a man is buisy writing code. women are just sex objects who are only interested in looking good.

>>61269872
thank you kind anon

>>61269883
How do you typo "busy" so many times?

>>61269292
same reason why men are not as interested in Psychology as women

Also with tech you can measure metrics like core/threads on cpu's, gpu performance with gaming or monitor resolutions, memory speeds, etc..

Like cars we can brag about parts or capabilities and it's fun to imagine and theorize upgrades and making budgets for spending, all things guys are more naturally jmclined to do. While women don't see the point since they mostly care about asthetics or what they do on the tech: selfies/snap chat/ social media/ attention whoring

>>61269883
>women are just sex objects
>can barely speak english

>>61269896
Protip for the future my guy:
Open up google images in another tab and drag the image in question onto the search bar.

>>61269911
speak for yourself

>>61269812
>Also, first reply in this thread is a fine example of why tech-communities scare women away.

I would not consider /g/ to be representative of tech communities as a whole.
Also, it's the internet. I'd be surprised if most people here are capable of a spaghetti-free real life interaction with a woman, let alone sexual harassment.

>>61269907
>>61269925
>le typo XDDDDDDDD
get a life

>>61269994
You also have the sentence structure of a fourth grader, so consider that fwiw.

>>61269446
Stongly typed languages are keeping women out because their fingers get tired from typing so hard. Use weakly typed languages!

ITT : Virgins who have never met a woman irl.
Other than their family.

>>61270090
Welcome to 4chan, enjoy your trip back to le red it

>>61269481

It's common for homosexuals to care about fashion

>>61270032
care to elaborate?

>>61269292
why aren't men not interested in $6000 hand bags as much as women?

>>61270090
I go to a computer science school where there are hundreds of guys but literally only 2 girls. this thread is entirely based in reality.

>>61270151
Why don't women spend their own money on handbags?

>>61270090
>I am the only one who has ever had sex, ever
>if you do not agree with me, you are obviously a virgin
You're not special, friend.

>>61270167
Why would you let her spend your money on a hand bag?

>>61270090
Actually my mom left my dad and never came back when i was 4 years old so fuck off

>>61270172
>Why would you let her spend your money on a hand bag?
"I'm sorry anon, you're just not the man I thought you were"

>>61270203
Pretty shit tier woman if she expects you to just buy her shit in exchange for... sex?

>>61270250
all women are like that my sweet sumer anon

>>61270266
I feel bad for you my friend.

>>61270363
vice versa

>>61270266
this. just skip the emotional abuse and fuck 10/10 hookers. also romantic love is a just glorified sexual attraction. it never lasts and it was never based in anything other than sex in the first place.

>>61270573
*is just
god damn phone

>>61269292
Because you have to be a loser in your childhood to become interested in technology in the first place.

>>61269292
because math class is tough

>>61269292
Women are not autists like men

>>61270583
chads fix up cars and shit too you know...

>>61270592
Chads only care about their Mustangs.
That is sexy.
Pajeet caring about his old ThinkPad is definitely not sexy.

>>61269292

>tfwn qtg who calls you into her room to fix every little issue that occurs

>>61269450
>tfw my father never taught me how to repair / make anything.
> tfw the fucker even refused to buy me Mechano ® games
During my kid days, I learned through tearing down and reassembling stuff from garbage.

>>61270583
This is what simpletons tell themselves

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>>61269306
>object orientation

>>61270602
bullshit dude. chads can be electricians, plumbers, builders etc. women can't though because they're useless brainlets and strengthlets

>>61269562
I agree

>>61270629

forgot to add, she would act super weirded out by me too, trying to cover her legs and clevage and not look directly at me

and make fake mini laughs when ever i try to nervously make a light hearted joke

then as i leave her and her qt friend would talk not-so-under their breath about me being weird

>>61270583
You're probably being facestious but I wonder whether there's a grain of truth to that. Are people into technical stuff socially ostracized because they're "weird"? Or are they into that stuff because of social isolation? I personally was always into computers even from a young age, but boredom from having no friends played a large part in my delving into hobbies in more depth. When my peers were out partying or whatever, I was playing music and as I got older studying math and programming.

>>61270824
hahahahahaahahah

>>61269292
Women aren't interested in anything besides socialization. They only interested in mundane things like fashion because it effects how other people think of them.

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>>61269438
I highly doubt you laughed at all. Unless your a child. This is a very serious and wording matter. We can't leave the future of the human race in the hands of these nutters

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>>61270764
Your papi was using vegeta strong hand tactics. Look how successful trunks became. Its about being there to be a father figure and such but to distance yourself aswell to force your son to deal with shit himself.(no tears bitch.) Look at how gohan fucked cell up just because his father was a universe away but still there for him.

>>61269457
I wonder what'll be like to grow up with a father like that?
Also I'm surprised doctors didn't try stop this. All those fucked up hormone pills he/she was taking could have fucked up the child. Also I have to say
>brother
>female

>>61269292
Kinda creepy, maybe ask her for her permission before you take a picture.

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>>61269292
>>61269292
>>61269292

>>61269841
You are so right, mate.
>many people were on mental auto-pilot
I call people like that robot vacuum cleaners.

>>61269292
Hostile environments and communities, a lack of role models, and persistent reinforcement of gender roles by society i would guess.

I think I'm our company's only developer and I received inappropriate comments about my appearance the first day there.

Thankfully I give no fuck beyond noticing it being inappropriate.

ITT: men circlejerking on how good they are

This is cringy, please stop.

>>61271479
I see you're new to 4chan.

>>61271457
I would sexually fuck your boy-pussy, if you know what i mean.

>>61271258
Unironic /thread
This is actually the reason. Everything else is bullshit. Everyone go home.

>>61271484
It wasn't quite that bad.

>>61271457
>tfw I notice I omitted the word female when I meant to say only female developer.
>thus destroying the entire meaning of my point.

I mean I'd make some excuse about typing on my phone or something, but it's a full word omission.

Caffeine seems to be required presently.

>>61269292
women like shit tier hobbies. can you think of any female dominated hobbies that are actually fun?

>>61269883
who hurt you?

GET OUT MOBILE POSTERS
REEEEEEEEEE

>>61269292
Because they don't have to be.

>>61269292
Women are made to nurture and grow offspring, attract alpha male and breed with them.

Men are made to become as alpha as possible, gather resources and living conditions for their offspring and spread their seed as much as possible.

What was once hunting, warfare and nation-building is being replaced with technology, ergo making the tech-savvy men the modern age hunters and nation-builders.

Women aren't interested in that as much simply because it drifts them from their original role as females.

>>61269292
higher proportion of men are creators
higher proportion of women are consumers

>>61271586
fuck yea I love gathering resources

>>61271586
>ergo making the tech-savvy men the modern age hunters and nation-builders.

you're fucking delusional. If IT guys are are the modern age hunters and nation-builders, why don't women flock to them instead of firemen,drug dealers, and rock stars?

>>61271663
Charisma matters. When it comes to attracting men and women.

You can attract men for casual sex without it, because men are fucking dumb, but not women.

>>61269841
Pajeet detected

>>61271663
Give it some time. The tech revolution is happening too quickly for the evolutionary instincts to cope with.


In the future if someone will be tech-ignorant, he will simply not survive.

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>>61271457
>Hostile environments and communities, a lack of role models, and persistent reinforcement of gender roles by society i would guess.

I doubt that. If you want more women to work in tech, you have to lower living standards.
I heard about this in 'Hjernevask - Brainwash', a dutch documentary.

Women in third world countries, or even just in countries with lower living standards are more likely to take tech-related professions.
The theory is that they want economic stability, and they can have that in, say, America by being nurses or simply taking on more traditionally female occupations.
In poorer countries, they will have a hard time paying rent if they do that, so they are more likely to do hard tech.

Google Karlie Kloss.

>>61271815
PR bullshit

>>61271751
Which do you doubt? That my claims exist or that they are the underlying causes of the different career choices women make?

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>>61271858
That the causes you listed contribute as much as economic safety.

See, the theory is that women are on average more attracted to traditional female occupations, which are more socially oriented, and they would rather do those sort of things UNLESS they aren't sure about economic safety.

Although, obviously, I can only offer my own observations on your claims, the same way you only provided yours:

>Hostile environment
At my the university (I've got a BSc in EE), girls are openly positively discriminated against. Not in a very major way, but the school is visibly desperate for more female attendees.

At my workplace, there's only one chick, and she's kinda butch, but I've no idea if she was ever made uncomfortable.

>lack of role models
I've literally never heard anyone say that they entered a tech field because of a role model, or that he/she was even significantly influenced by one. I know I don't care about tech role models.

>gender roles by society
Well, yeah, maybe, but we have to remember that society is equal parts men and women, so if women are willing to work in tech, and they are ~50% of the population, how strong can the push be?
This last one really is conjecture, but I think it's hard to have hard evidence for this one either way.

>>61271989
>I've literally never heard anyone say that they entered a tech field because of a role model, or that he/she was even significantly influenced by one. I know I don't care about tech role models.
Role models not specifically in tech fields but in the area of the sciences and mathematics in general.

Things from childhood too and all that. I mean, Bill Nye certainly influenced my childhood as an example.

>>61271989
>This last one really is conjecture, but I think it's hard to have hard evidence for this one either way.
My point in that regard comes from a sort of feminist understanding of the performance and reinforcement of gender roles.

>>61270135

for what its worth, a fourth grader shares your ability to structure a sentence.

>>61269292
I think I'll hire this girl regardless of her competences. Kinda giving her a try.

Yeah, I'll... her...

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>>61272039
>Role models not specifically in tech fields but in the area of the sciences and mathematics in general.
>Things from childhood too and all that. I mean, Bill Nye certainly influenced my childhood as an example.
I haven't the faintest idea, desu. I guess it must be some regional, cultural differences. I grew up and still live in an eastern european country, which means it was just climbing out of communism when I was born, and there wasn't that much of an emphasis on role models as in western countries.
Anyway, I think people you know (relatives, teachers) can have as much, or even more of an effect as Bill Nye, and I've had way more female teachers than male, and honestly, they were usually better at being teachers, too.
Still, I never really cared. I did tech because I wanted job security, and because I like it enough.

>gender roles
Yeah, gender roles exist, but that's for a reason. Whatever you say, men and women will always be different if for no other reason, then because of the ability to give birth.
It's more detrimental for a woman to enter tech, if she will be a mother, because she is very likely to miss several years of development in her field. That of course means less experience, poorer job prospects, lower salary, yadda, yadda.
In that regard, while the gender role exists, it isn't rooted in bigotry, but in practicality.

You're right in that it may lower the proportion of women in tech, but women can still make decisions for themselves, and all it does is remove the women who never cared much about tech in the first place.

>>61269292
they should really just make their own hardware and programming language

lmao /g/ is filled with a bunch of low IQ handholdless kissless virgins who get paid to push pencils and pretend to be engineers. Who knew?

>>61272170
>, and I've had way more female teachers than male, and honestly, they were usually better at being teachers, too.
Every teacher I had before college for math and science was male.

>>61272170
>likely to miss several years
>several years
Wat.

Also basically all serious careers are under continual change. Nursing, a predominantly female-dominated field is very much constantly in development. Nurses I know have regular and frequent training programs and stuff to keep up to date.

Also, there is no reason it needs to be only the woman being at home with children. Parental league in the civilised world is for both parents.

The issue is that social norms aren't changing to keep up.

>>61272170
>but women can still make decisions for themselves
Of course we can. I'm just saying that if we're discussing large population sizes and going into trying to explain statistical oddities, the things I mentioned before play a significant role.

>>61270911
>BasedNigger hits stupid bitch
>God bless BasedNigger

Personal preference.
Similar to why guys aren't as interested in clothes, make-up, and other fashion stuff.
That being said, I'm doing a short electrical engineering course, and I'm amazed at how roughly 2/3 of the class are chicks. Even the professor was surprised by it.

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>>61271989
>I've literally never heard anyone say that they entered a tech field because of a role model, or that he/she was even significantly influenced by one.

I started getting interested in tech as a 2-3 year old just because of Klossy tbqh

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>>61272218
>several years
>Wat.
What wat?
People (predominantly women) often take breaks from work until their child is old enough to be put in an after-school day care or something. Not everyone has the means to pay a nanny, or even wants their offspring to grow up barely recognizing his/her own parents.

>Also, there is no reason it needs to be only the woman being at home with children. Parental league in the civilised world is for both parents.
Yes, exactly. Parents have the opportunity to do it the other way, but they usually don't.

>The issue is that social norms aren't changing to keep up.
Yeah, but you're not at all considering the possibility that maybe women DO prefer staying at home with the children. So what if that is true? You can't know for sure that things wouldn't be the same way if we were all unfeeling logic-machines, without a society. Why would social norms have to change if neither gender really wants them to?

>Of course we can. I'm just saying that if we're discussing large population sizes and going into trying to explain statistical oddities, the things I mentioned before play a significant role.
Eh, I want to say "a role" not "a significant role", but that might just be my stubbornness.
The thing is, even if we imagined a world without social norms or roles, I think that a purely logical woman would still be less likely to go tech. Nursing might be a bad example, but I think it's generally true that "traditionally female" occupations are more re-enterable.
Also, we can't forget the possibility that women might simply have a preference toward more social work, which would also explain a large chunk of female workforce not in tech.

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>>61269457
>women can't understand why men care about shit like cars and computers so much
I drive an '07 Denali.

Because tech went from unpopular/geek status to fashion.
Everyone knows apple, everyone knows that connected things are hype.

For some reason, girls need a mass effect to like something, but some were pionneer (the greatest ones)

no peen = no e-peen

>>61269925
>Open up google images in another tab and drag the image in question onto the search bar.
Click the triangle next to the post number. Behold the power of 4chan.

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>>61269292
Women are a meme.

Inferior opposite sex that are biologically designed for breeding offspring and nothing more.

>>61272517
98% of my co-worker are women and I can say that most of them are competent and great at making decisions. They're also very confident and like complexity.
Most women handle their jobs like bosses, but they also bring 'chaos'. Men are used to work together because they're more calm and like when things don't change.
Women like movement and change, that's why most of men fear them in work (or on boats), but I think that millenials should be the first to prove/show that great stability is boring and great chaos is not viable, but an equilibrium between these two is a perfect system (preventing crashs and enhancing adaptability).

According to some article I read, Russian women are the most interested in STEM out of all women. They're also the most feminine and attractive, by my measure.

So for one thing, its stupid to say girls are vapid because they're pretty. Britain is full of ugly vapid girls.

>>61270159
at my class in college there was one incredibly ugly grill in a class of 20 guys
now at uni there's none

feels good

>>61272742
I also think it's more genetic than cultural.

>>61272742
Do not date Russian women

They are ruthless

t. slav

>>61272188
roastie detected

>>61269457
>gave birth
Through what? His ass?

>>61270977
>using ching-chong cartoons to make a point
Truly a beta that isn't worth listening to.

>>61271501
And you think watching cartoons and do boring shit like math or engeneering faggotry is actually fun?
How physical are you, as in, what sports do you actually do?

why dont women play video games all day or not shower for weeks or piss in bottles

>>61272781
Not true.

t.Russian

>>61273557
what is more relevant, a slav not in russia or a non slav in russia

>>61272742
There were 10 women out of 30 people in my group in university, and none of them work now. General science and engineering faculties were basically sausage parties.

So I would take this article with a huge bag of salt.

>>61273557
>t.Russian
Not true.
t. KGB

>>61269989
If you own your spaghetti and use it to your advantage, is that the most neckbeardy or the least neckbeardy?
>>61271435
i've always thought of people like that as though their heads are filled with loud modem noises

>>61273615
>t. KGB
Not true.
t. Putin

>>61269860
Yep, women are obviously more functional then men.

>>61272499
awesome, didn't know this

>>61272823
It's a woman baby!

>>61269292
why is her body like that?

>>61269292
Because a male's brain is more geared toward logic and math which translates very well to technology. Women are more geared toward language and social skills.

>why are women not interested in <productive activity> as much as men?
Because they're women

>>61273751
what about the fact the majority of neets are men

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>>61273856

>>61269292
Real talk, women have only been allowed to have their own rights and non man-approved interests for a very short amount of time.

Give them a few hundred years to catch up, and I think it's likely we'll start seeing an even split 50:50 of male and female interest in anything cerebral and technological, where the gender difference of raw physical strength isn't an obstacle.

Maybe a few thousand years to fully catch up, but either way I think it's inevitable.

how come the dumbest people i know are white men who vote for trump and thinks hes actually going to give them money and stuff

>>61269457
imagine that kids school life once their classmates see the pic of them sucking down on dads tits

>>61269292
my grandma said that I could get a girl like that of my own if I wanted to.

why does she objectify women like this?

>>61274277
Cause the woman up top is slutty?

>>61272517
t. bitter pathetic male virgin.

>>61274309
so I should get me a slutty girl?

>>61274430
They're easy to get

>>61270911
What the fuck is going on here? What is up with the fucking child with the flag?

>>61272517
> that pic
> airforce
> doesnt know how to use compass properly

And they think they are the smartest branch....

>>61269292
Because women don't pull their weight.

>>61269292
Because then they would have to work in the same department as creepy faggots like you.

>>61274692
They don't need to. Nerds like you will always pick up their slack with pleasure

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>>61269446
It's bait but I'm gonna bite anyway.
>objectify the tech industry as a people-positive helpful feminine place like women are used to, then women will like it more
There's a reason women don't want to be miners and would rather be a secretary.
There's a reason women don't want to be electricians and would rather join the healthcare industry
And there's a reason women would rather take jobs that give them the freedom to be stay at home mom's then move to another state or country and push their limits like every other guy to do immensely hard labor even if they would make x3 the money.

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>>61275055
Twas a programming joke, not bait. Objectification refers to object-oriented programming, a paradigm.

>>61269292
Woman wore as many clothing as suitable in the hot weather, men ITT imagined it was done for them, then blamed her for something they imagined.

natural tendencies

militant equality-of-outcome feminazis dont like that. nevermind none of them would want to go into tech themselves. there should be equality of opportunity (imo), and ideally no harassment based on sex alone for the handful of gril programmers there are. i doubt it's a big issue though.

this is a thing people feel a need to discuss, solely because public debate is shaped by a pampered decadent few who has lost any and all touch with reality. they have no direct experience of real hardship, real problems, real life, everything is ideological and they reckon they have it all figured out.

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>>61275327
>wow creep what r u lookin at my face is up here

>>61272742
This just goes to show what I was saying earlier. It's not that women are incapable of maintaining a career in STEM, it's that they never have to think for themselves and end up taking the easy road. In Russia, women aren't put on a pedestal. They don't want to end up with some gopnik that will beat the shit out of them every day. And there are plenty of people over there trying to prey on desperate women and convince them to take a job as a maid or whatever, which ends up actually being sex slavery. So if the women want to make something of themselves, they have to put in effort. They're not going to get an affirmative action job as a gender studies major like in liberal countries.

Because women create problems rather than solve them

>>61274553
Antifa just being Antifa nothing else nothing more

>>61275327
>as suitable in the hot weather
I guarantee you it was maybe 75 out when she decided to wear that.

>>61274237
Because you are either female or are yet to progress into puberty .

Either way, get off my board you underage scum

>>61271258
Psychologists say that they don't bother diagnosing women with autism who have it unless it's absolutely necessary because it would destroy their egos and make them outcasts. This is the reason there's so few for women, even though behaviorally they're more likely to show signs of it. I'm a psychfag too I know my shit.

>>61273905
Women are NEETs because they go for shit jobs. I have an in-law that went into Psychology to become a college counselor. Since there are like 2 jobs per university that actually do that and WOULDN'T work anything else she became a house cleaner.

A house cleaner with an MS. So she went back to school to become... an Accountant. Like her husband.

>normies and their finance degrees instead of just going STEM

>>61275055
I know a coal miner and logger from Peru from my Engineering program. Literally the most attractive woman I ever met.

Of course she's twenty years older, married with three kids, and is a gold digger. She married a guy who makes $140k and then tells me women care about personality while in the same sentence says how much she hates her braindead husband and will get a divorce.

>>61269292
Because they're mostly retarded

>>61274620
>using a compass
>height of intelligence
She's probably never had to use one... that's why we have grunts like you.

>>61269466
Her job is to look at UI mockups and go "can you make that pop a little more?"

>>61271691
wut

>>61274277
Probably because attracting a high school girl who shows 95% of her cleavage isn't exactly difficult.

The question is do you want that?

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>>61274256
They will all probably say awww. The future is fucked.

>>61269292
Because it's hard and most of them are retarded. Just check what race and sex has invented the most important things for mankind.

>>61276179
I mean, if she's \over the age of consent... yeah

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>>61269292
Because parents give little girls dolls and little boys lego. You gotta foster an interest in STEM early on.

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>>61271815

>>61272306
Nice bait.

>>61269860
>>61270771
>being too dumb to understand OOP

Back to tumblr, girls (male)

>>61276569
The weirdest part of this for me is that she's using zsh and not bash, but still has no idea how to navigate.

>>61269457
Of the two categories of things you mentioned about, one carries civilization forward. The other does not.

Protip: its not the one with bags and shoes in it.

Even at the female realm, while their representation may dominate the demographics, at the very top, man still reign. The most recognized fasionists, the best chefs, the most respected beauty specialists, the owners of all things women love and consume, are all male.

Women are just inferior to men.

I go to a trade school that offers a pretty wide array of programs.
There are only a couple courses that have a gender balanced class. All the other ones are either mostly women or mostly men. There are a few classes that are all women. Sys admin is the only one that's all men.
Nobody ever seems to bitch about it either way which is nice.

>>61271815
Google suicide methods.

>>61276843
Not true for gender studies.

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>>61276591
>being too dumb to know what OOP stands for
gb2reddit

>>61269911
You are in a thread full of dudes talking about the psychology of men and women.

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>>61277048
>CC
>most of the people there are pretty chill and anti-lib
>we end up with 8-10 engineers that graduate bi-yearly while the Fashion majors have a show every year
>only female engineer is a milf from South America
This is not a healthy kind of realism

>>61269292
>missing tooth

because technology doesn't give you attention, it's the other way around

>>61270911
This was great.

>>61269292
Generally speaking humans take the path of least resistance. Woman don't have a necessity to learn a complex skill or trade, but men do have a necessity because they need to provide or they are considered worthless by society. Women on the other hand have an intrinsic value due to both biological and social conditions while men are disposable.

>>61269292
Because IT industry is full of wankers

>>61270911
>nog chimping out on communist leftists

nice

>>61277362
Community colleges are usually down-to-Earth places because they have a higher population of people that have actually been in the work force and understand what the world is actually like. You'll find parents that are just trying to make things better for their kids there. They don't have time for petty bullshit. On the other hand, universities are filled with people fresh out of high school that have unlimited time, have never worked a real job before, and think that someone criticizing their pink moehawk is the worst kind oppression they'll encounter in life.

>>61275866
Wtf source

>>61269292
boobies

>>61277159
>she (he) thinks OOP stands for Object Oriented Patriarchy

>>61269292
Why would you do something like that when you can get a man to do it for you?

>>61269401
"Interaction Engineer"
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE-

>>61278901
Nailed it.

>>61270063
Even better, use monthly or even annually typed languages for the best results!

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>>61275866
with all the modern women acting like special snowflakes they'd probably use autism as excuse to attentionwhore though, parents already do it with their autistic kids

>>61280796
Might as well let them get something out of it. I know a guy that has three kids with autism and a fat wife. Pretty sure he kept trying because he just wanted one normal kid. But now he has four money sinks, and is perpetually broke even though he makes $90,000 a year in a low cost of living area. They spend everything he has between all the therapy and other shit. He puts on his best smile but every now and then he slips just enough that you know how much he hates life.

Women are all basically the same. Their biological purpose is to get pregnant and nurture young. There's only one right way to do that so nature designed women without much variability. Getting pregnant and caring for young is a huge burden so it would be a curse to women as well as children if women were born with traits that didn't supplement that.

Males on the other hand are much more variable because they are designed to serve different biological roles. The majority were designed to be hunters and warriors and take orders from a leader. But there's a vast range of biological niches that needed to be filled and because men are not burdened down by the biological imperative of pregnancy men needed to fill these. A certain percentage of mean will always be the freaks and oddballs who don't fit in to the hunter/warrior hierarchy and in modern times a lot of these types end up in tech.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variability_hypothesis

>>61280892
How the fuck do you crap out 3 kids in a row with autism?
The anti vaccine mongs are deluded with their "vaccines cause autism" but shit. something must be causing such a rise in cases (all the shrinks trying to prescribe crap sure have to do with it though), the shit in food and unhealthy whores having kids at their late 30s surely have something to do with it as well.

>>61269401
What's next
Toilet engineer (plumber)
Biological engineer (nurse)
Sanity engineer (cleaner)
Ration engineer (burger flipper)

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Women don't belong in the workplace

>>61269883
>buisy
Were you too busy to learn English?

>>61273594
>So I would take this article with a huge bag of salt.
I don't think you understand the "grain of salt" phrase at all...

>>61280977
I subscribe to the idea that it happens during development in the womb. I don't think it's a coincidence that there are high rates of autism in areas with "strong independent women". Something about them working while pregnant probably makes their kids retarded.

>tfw I worked with a qt woman dev a couple years ago
>She's smart, hard-working, and one of those people you want on your team no matter WHAT she has in her pants.
>tfw we can't just have more get-shit-done people like her.
Hell, if anything, her 'woman instinct' just made her stay up to ungodly hours making sure the project got done.

>>61275866
This. Before liberal activism took over in the recent decade, females traditionally had to hold societal standards to their male counterparts, as trained by their parents. They had to act and become certain ways. "There was no such thing as an autistic woman, only males get them."

>>61281138
Snorted and kek'd

dildos are technology

>>61281032
kek

>>61273620
>i've always thought of people like that as though their heads are filled with loud modem noises
Holy shit that's fantastic. I'm gonna take that from you.

>>61271457
How do you define an inappropriate comment? Did someone calling you good looking offend you because he wasn't chad enough.

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>>61283024
>because he wasn't chad enough

Men and women have different brains. Fact. Men and women perceive individuals differently. Fact. Chew on this.

When a man meets someone for the first time, their first assessment is gender.
>is this person male or female
>all forms of behavior and treatment stem from the answer to this question
Haven't you ever noticed when you bring your qt around your male friends they act differently? Yeah

When a woman meets someone for the first time, their first assessments are physical attributes.
>is this person fat, skinny, tall, short(lol), dark, bald whatever
>all forms of behavior and treatment stem from the answer to this question.
This is why women can't help but to smile at a lean 6'3 man with a decent face.

It's just genetics and evolution. Please use this knowledge wisely.

>>61282955
feel free, pretty sure i stole it too

>>61283073
That's not at all what I was asking. I wanted to know what the inappropriate comment was, and how you define an inappropriate comment.

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>>61273451
FIGHT ME!!!!!

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>>61269836
Underrated post.

>>61273620
>i've always thought of people like that as though their heads are filled with loud modem noises
It wouldn't surprise me if that were actually true. Until recently I wasn't aware that people literally do not have internal monologue[0]. When they think, they don't think in words, but rather in concepts, like animals.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_monologue

>>61283665
Holy fuck that explains so much.

>>61277088
Isn't that the essentially same thing?
Same result anyway.

because their brains evolved differently

>>61283712
It's actually pretty crazy because there are psychologists that don't have internal monologue, so they're skeptical if it even exists. Which is fucking hilarious to me because I think to myself in words all the time. Meanwhile, apparently there is a sizable portion of the population that literally can't do that.

https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/pristine-inner-experience/201110/not-everyone-conducts-inner-speech

>>61270266
This. Fucking AWALT. I had to find out the hard way... repeatedly. Women have less moral compass, and are not driven to succeed, but rather to find and feed off of success. All of them, all the time. No exception. You will try, and fail, to find an exception.

>>61283793
That article surprised the fuck out of me since I pretty much constantly have an inner dialogue with myself going on, sometimes to the point of annoying myself when I find myself explaining things to myself that I already understand (probably helps me process shit but can get annoying) and I do think to myself in dreams as well.

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Honestly, after trying to date and have normal romantic relationships with women I just can't.
1. Dated an art chick. Good at drawing, super autistic though. Great sex. Cheated on me for drugs after spending all of daddy's money on drugs that was for college.
2. Dated a Christian chick. Also autistic. Super cringy religion. Cheated on me at Bible camp with one of the counselors.
3. Dated a metalhead girl. Crazy sex, did tons of drugs. Turned out to be a heroin addict. Found her nodding off in my bed with her ex who gave her heroin and fucked her. Had to give them both narcam before beating the shit out of the guy and them both out.

I'm done. I can't deal with women in general. They are shallow, hedonistic, shit tier human beings who literally can't think past the most basic of concepts and ideas. They're all damaged in some way, they don't bat an eye about cheating or doing stupid shit, they never feel the need to better themselves. Even just trying to be friends with them is damaging. My lesbian friends I can't even stand to be around anymore because they're childish fuckwads 90% of the time or openly talk shit about you for absolutely no reason.

If it weren't for the fact that I've recently had success in my career, I'd probably just blow my brains out than go on being a heterosexual guy who's only options are these useless shells of human skin with a pussy glued on the bottom. There was a point in my life where I believed in equality among the sexes but that's far gone. We live in a patriarchy because women are fucking garbage and our society would collapse if everyones brains worked the way a womans does.

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>>61269306
"object orientation"

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>>61281032
Sandwich Engineer

>>61273673
retard

>>61269457
How the fuck did he get pregnant? I'm impressed that modern medicine somehow made this possible.

>>61283073

That's a cute deflection, sweetie. Could you make an attempt at answering the question though?

>>61280977
It's because of the fat wife probably.

>>61269292
marketing and historical placement of gender markers
women have traditionally been raised as family-makers, while men are considered the resource collectors
this is just a modern extension of that, with "resources" referring mostly to money
though, due to several feminist movements, this does seem to be changing, however slowly

>>61280977
disabilities have become easier to recognize with the advance of modern medicine
autists before the late 20th century were the ones who were either praised as "eccentric geniuses" (your Einsteins and your Shakespeares and what have you) or locked away in the family basement as some sort of disgrace

>>61269292

Muh dick

>>61269872

That url tho, thought you were trolling

>>61276569
>about code
>/g/ is obsessed about the non-code aspect
/g/ is dumb again.

>work in IT for many years
>a new girl joins a team/company full of men
>cute enough, worth a try
>she's cool too
>wanna hang out?
"I already have a boyfriend/husband"
>oh, okay...

Every time.

All the decent women that are in tech are snatched within seconds. I've never seen one that is single.

Granted, I've only met 4 women working in IT for the past ~9 years in this field.

It's sad. I just want a qt3.14 to compile the kernel with.

>>61269292
because a woman's only purpose is to have children and raise them

>>61280796
>>61275866
Maybe knowing that you are autistic makes you want to give up on reality and get into technology.

>>61286286
>be a girl
>finally get a fucking decent job in IT field despite the metric dick-ton of assholes in the job hunting world
>first day on the job
>some old fucking creep comes up to me and stammers out some half-hearted murmur
>decide to humor him, if only to not make enemies at a job I just got
>asks if I want to hang out and install gentoo at his place later
>disgusted that this dude who could easily pass for my dad would harass me on my first fucking day
>make up some excuse about already having a man in my life
>he shuffles off
>have to brush off some of the grease from my desk
disgusting ...

Studies show that there is a direct correlation between the amount of testosterone in one's body and their interests. Less testosterone makes them more likely to be interested in human things like faces, more testosterone makes them more likely to be interested in technical things like mechanics. Men naturally produce more testosterone than women, ergo men are more likely to be interested in tech and women less likely.

>>61286286
>tfw computer science M. Sc. gf
It's half as good as it sounds. She's basically a code monkey and uses a Mac. Girls are good at learning theories and reproduce them on exams. But that's it. She is completely clueless and yet has a similar position to mine (male, not clueless).

Also 99% of new coworkers give it a try to ask her out because of their geek gf fantasies

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>>61269457
Good lord, why. If you're gonna go trans, go all the way (ditch the tits and vag if you're doing FtM) or don't do it at all. There's no excuse not to have sliced the tits off and obtain a penis at this point (he'd otherwise be perfectly passing), especially SIXTEEN years afterwards. That's fucking 2001 - do you feel old yet?

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>>61269836
KEK

>>61274006
Good post. There is enormous momentum behind the culture defined during the time when women had no rights. Before evaluating current state of industry to determine women/men differences, wait until our complex socioeconomic system hits the next steady state. Oh wait, it's never going to hit a steady state, because as soon as one of the three most impactful probable future events occurs (mars colony of millions, massive earth catastrophe from
atmospheric carbon, and population implosion from americans being priced out of home ownership and family stability) the system will start oscillating again like crazy.

The conclusion? You, the reader, need to shut the fuck up and get back to living your life, because speculating on things that are ABSOLUTELY impossible to predict is a waste of time and your time is too short to waste on this type of conversation. This is a chaotic differential equation, the question of men vs women in tech, and it will not be answered.

>>61275866
I read autism papers and books day and night and I've never read that before. From what I've gathered autistic girls are demand avoiding and quiet. They are usually better equipped than their male counterparts when it comes to camouflaging their difficulties through studying others and their different gender role expectation.

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>>61269836
>be a lazy student in gender studies
>hear about the fearful Muh-So-Gynists at 4chin
>come to /g/ to dump stupid questions
>gathers jokes and troll verbatims as "data"
>lands a thesis about how the patriarchy is ruling the tech world blahblahbah
>gets a degree and a status in academia
>gets a position as Humanities teacher in shitty third-zone University
>puts same strategy at use for the next decades

W-well played indeed.

>>61269883
im the only person I know that works on cars and writes cars
and im shitty(hacky) at both, unsurprisingly

>>61269721
Also the reason why women can't drive for shit

It's cultural. The attitude is changing, but girls grow up believing that computers are for nerd who are all guys. That idea sticks with you for your entire life, so when it's time to choose careers, the smart ones end up going into medicine and some go into hard sciences.

>>61287701
>The attitude is changing
no it's not

>>61271509
my single mother

>at any time can put on a cute outfit that your dad / bf / beta orbiter paid for and go to a social event, or just livestream from your bedroom, and dance around absentmindedly and be showered with attention, money, sex, friend requests, etc
Why would a young woman spend an afternoon hunched over a keyboard struggling through a code tutorial or trying to piece together understanding of an open source when they've got everything on tap just by virtue of existing?

>>61289254
Keep in mind that those are only cute women that can do that. Some women look like the one in this picture >>61269457

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>>61269292
they need to think.

>>61272517
> biologically designed for breeding offspring and nothing more.

they don't even do that anymore.

>>61276591
The joke just went way over your head faggot

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Blog ahead.

I guess women just have no interest in this sort of thing.

Both my parents are mechanical engineers(they met in college) and even though my mother studied engineering back when there were barely any women In that area(her class of about 100 people had only about 5 women) she still doesn't have that much of an interest in the area. She really liked the maths part of engineering but she doesn't have any enthusiasm about actual engineering.

I'm also In engineering, currently studying electronics and while there are more women in my class(10 or 15%) I stilll haven't found any woman that Is actually passionate about EE. Hell, even men that are passionate about EE are hard to find In my class.

>implying men give a shit about technology
most of my friends are computer illiterate, if they didn't need computers for work or social stuff they wouldn't use them

>>61277436
This right here, I believe, is closest to the actual answer.

Outside of spatial reasoning tasks, there isn't much evidence that women and men are as a whole unequal, intelligence-wise. This means the behavior we observe is not caused by a difference in ability, but a difference in choice.

>men do have a necessity because they need to provide or they are considered worthless by society
This really made me think... I have multiple co-workers who have fat wives with no skills, who don't work. Some of them just push out kids, and if your goal is to have a kid or two, it may make sense to have a parent stay home to cut childcare costs and raise your kid the right way, at least until they get into grade school. I suspect, though, that the kids were a ploy to lock down the man.

It just regularly blows my mind that they're OK with paying for some human to sit around all day consuming food.

I don't think you'll ever find a bunch of women with decent jobs who keep a fat neckbeard at home to eat cheetos and play vidya all day.

Anyways, the whole point of this was to say that tech is generally hard, and unless they're intrinsically motivated, women generally have no need to do especially hard things because, assuming they're at least 4/10, they'll be able to find a man who will give them a roof and keep them fed.

>>61269292
>>61292144
i think it's mostly socialized, not inherent- women are indirectly discouraged from participating in the tech industry. even a woman with genuine interest knows that she will be taken less seriously in the field. it's significantly more likely that a young boy would have his interest in tech fields cultivated, while a young girl would likely be encouraged to do something else. i saw this happen with my own sister. we both had a fascination with tech and hardware at a young age, but my father sort of drove her out of it and encouraged her to focus more on other topics. they made her join a dance class while they let me stay at home working on my own things.

>>61292144
>It just regularly blows my mind that they're OK with paying for some human to sit around all day consuming food.
I seriously cannot imagine willingly giving another person free access to my bank account and all my resources that I've worked so hard for, but as a male that's the cost of gaining access to reproduction. Giving things to your children makes sense, since there's (possibly) a return on the investment, but the woman will spend more than the kids and gives little return after the children are born and raised passed infancy. If you see a child as a commodity that is being purchased from a woman, the market price (open access to your bank account forever) is insanely high - but women can set it at whatever because they have a monopoly. That's the free market for you.

>>61274553
tranny tells black dude to go away, black dude says it's public so he can be wherever he wants, tranny pushes black dude, black dude punches

they're sneaky fucks, just look at the flag guy

>>61269292
Because in the end biology wins and in the end every gender will naturally fill its role whether feminists/meninists/LGBBQ++ like it or not.

>>61269911
I guess that's why all the top figures in psychology are men...

>>61292381
This is very true, in addition to the "social economy" aspect of women, there is a level of discouragement in the industry.
Hell, in the past working women were marginalized to an extent because they were seen as working for "pin money"... extra spending money for the family. That has changed for the most part these days, but you do still see some of that discrimination today. I think that the goal should be for all industries to be gender-agnostic, not encouraging positive-discrimination towards women in tech.

Strange how it's always tech too, I saw at my old HS that they set up a "girls who code" club. You never see a "girls who weld/construct/mine/drive" club. Probably because tech is the sexy job of today, and welding is icky hard physical labor.

>>61292524
>because in the end and in the end
Jesus Christ. And you sit there spewing stupid shit like always.

>>61292412
I get where you're coming from, but reality is a bit more fair than just a simplified economic model of the reproduction scene. Women are people too, and often have more desires than "how can I get the most $$$ for my reproductive privileged?"

Quality women are going to want someone with a quality personality to spend time with... because if they have the smallest bit of foresight, they'll realize that there's a high change that marrying a rich asshole just for money will result in a life of depression and misery.

If you hang out where women are motivated and intelligent (i.e. decent colleges), you'll meet women who will have ambitions beyond getting fat on your dime while watching Dr. Phil all day. The flipside is that you have to be somewhat of a catch yourself:
>be attractive
>don't be unattractive

People get so hung up on the physical aspect, but as long as you don't have the face of a troll and keep yourself in decent shape, women won't really care.

>>61292412
>I seriously cannot imagine willingly giving another person free access to my bank account and all my resources that I've worked so hard for
Usually when they get married their spouse is an amazing person that they want to share their life with. Later on after they have kids that spouse stops putting in effort and ends up fat and lazy because that's generally what happens when you stay at home all day and do nothing. At that point the husband is in too deep because if he gets a divorce he will need to take time off to go to court, pay for lawyers (divorce lawyers will frequently work on contingency for a woman but not a man), pay child support, pay alimony, and give her half of everything he has ever worked for. So usually he just lets her stay at home and consume food endlessly while "raising the kids" because it's easier that way.

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>>61292644
fuck you i am tired from work I am not obliged to make perfect sentences for your fucking ass you fucking piece of faggot assblasted shit.
also kill yourself and get the fuck out of my /g/

>>61292381
>even a woman with genuine interest knows that she will be taken less seriously in the field
Horseshit. That's just an excuse people make for women so they don't have to feel bad about not going into tech. Nobody cares whether you have a dick, two dicks, or no dicks at all when you're a developer. They just care about the quality of your code and women generally fucking suck on that front. For example >>61276569

>>61292907
The really sad thing is that almost all of my coworkers I was referring to are under the age of 30.

There is no Chad dick to sit on around technology

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Objectively shitty threads like this one really have to be called "/pvg/ Retarded Butthurt Beta Ugly Permavirgin General".

t. Intelligent beautiful woman.

I'm supposed to be intelligent because I share my birthday with Isaac Newton. I'm not even kidding. Deal with it, you nerdy losers.

>asking a bunch of autistic shut-ins why women think or do anything
this was a funny thread op

>>61293865
Does it feel good to roleplay as a woman?

>>61293883
Anyone that has worked with women in software development already knows that almost all of them are inadequate. There is a very, very small subset of them that have merit. The rest a even worse than working with pajeets.

>>61293966
i've worked with women before and they're fine. i've worked with pajeets and they're awful. don't lump them in together, vinesh.

>>61293984
I wasn't lumping them together. I said they're on average worse than pajeets. The only thing worse would be an Indian woman.

>>61286326
>metrick dick-ton of assholes in the job hunting world
This is not a women only problem, HR people are full of themselves, if anything being a women will lead to HR treating you better.
>asks if I want to hang out
>harass me
A coworker asking if you want to hang out is not harassment you dipshit. If he walked up to you and grabbed your ass then said "give me a blow job in the bathroom" that would harassment. Normal social interaction isn't harassment you privileged cunt.

>>61275055
Like all those stay at home moms who do product selling and marketing like isagenix or it works

>>61286646
This. I have nothing against people who want to switch genders, we have the technology to do it and I don't see a problem with it, but people who are "non-binary" or don't fully commit annoy me. I get not having had a full operation done if you recently transitioned and you are saving up or something, but if you have been trans for 16 years you should have gotten the surgery by then. Also "non-binary" is really fucking stupid, gender is a biological thing (which we can now change) and I don't care what gender you choose but the way I see it there are 3, maybe 4 choices: male, female, hermaphrodite, and none. If you want to switch genitalia or remove all your genitalia or are born with both (or have both installed) then whatever, more power to you but you can't just say that you don't identify as a single gender because gender is a physical, biological phenomenon not a fucking identity.

>>61287701
It's annoying that women like to blame the men in tech for this when it's the medias fault for portraying computers as something for nerdy guys.

>>61294014
your experiences don't match up with the aggregate. maybe if you get to statistics before you graduate you'll learn not to draw conclusions from too small a sample size (to say nothing of a non-random sample size, such as your geographically local cohort of high school students), but in the meantime don't draw conclusions from unrepresentative samples.

>>61293865
You know the rules, tits or gtfo.

>>61294222
>your experiences don't match up with the aggregate
Oh, but yours do? What aggregate? We're both speaking anecdotes here.

>>61276494
My little sister played with legos all the time when she was young and she still turned out to be a make up and clothing obsessed bitch who doesn't give a shit how things work and only wants them to work.

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>>61281032
Why not? Nowadays every code monkey calls themselves a "software engineer" even if they aren't involved in the actual design process. Might as well let everyone else in on the fun.

>>61294187
men don't do themselves any favors. women used to do a lot of the computing work until it became apparent that it was more profitable, at which point it became men's work. and when women say they want to do engineering or something, everyone (women, men, dogs) give them a funny look like they've said they want to wear their pants backwards.

i resent that men are labeled the only bad actors in all this, e.g. blaming the father for second guessing his daughter's interest in engineering, when the mother is often also responsible for that second-guessing as well. but feminazis (a subgroup of, but not equivalent to, feminists) won't acknowledge that cultural norms get adopted by everyone, and we're all guilty of this shit. little girls tease other little girls when they get into nerdy shit, too. why are only men determined to be active perpetrators, when reasonably speaking nobody is actively perpetrating this, and any argument you can make that men actively advance this can equally apply to all people.

>>61294241
i'm a grad student in CS. i've worked in industry, had people working with me and for instance now have pajeets and women working under me. my sample is at least larger, and within institutions (like MSR and my university) the groups are relatively random and representative of tech workers.

Too Boring

>>61294272
I don't think most people purposely do perpetrate this though. Sure some parents are obsessed with traditional gender roles and such but I think a lot of people don't care, the problem is that children are easily influenced by the media which likes to portray stereotypes a lot.

>>61294291
>i'm a grad student in CS
And I have an actual career as a software engineer and have sat on countless interview panels. Once you leave school you'll start to understand that your bubble isn't reality.

>>61294319
Private sector experience means nothing since a majority of tech companies don't actually have scientific standards for their software design and are often reliant on extremely old and out of date systems and concepts. Should have paid attention in class gramps.

>>61294301
i absolutely agree with you about most people not perpetrating it purposefully. i think i must've misspoke or something (not surprising; i'm dealing with a headache from not enough coffee). i would argue that even "woke" (or whatever) parents are often accidentally influencing their kids in one direction or another. the subtlest expression of surprise can cue to a little kid that what they're doing isn't really normal, and these micro-expressions are hard to mask.

but you're probably right that the media is by far the blunt instrument whaling on kids' heads. i just meant to say that it's pretty odious to ignore that women do this shit as well, but they're not criticized for it the way men are. women are invariably described as the subjects of cultural norms that are ostensibly crafted by men. but if you sit someone down and talked them through that, any idiot could tell you that's retarded. we're all chipping in a little bit and consuming a lot, when it comes to culture.

>>61294340
You think university is better representative of reality than the real world? That's a laugh.

>>61294319
i said i have experience in both areas — industry and academia. you didn't even seem to object to the fact that i called you out for being in high school until just now, so i'm not even especially convinced that you've taken the SATs, let alone graduated high school.

>>61294076
>falling for this bait

>>61294358
not sure who that guy is, but neither is representative of the other; you need to experience both to have any authority to talk about both. if you want to claim authority on industry, you can't do it from only having done academic research. the same is true in the other direction.

i've said i have experience in both. you don't seem to have had experience in anything past high school. this has been a fun conversation, but i don't see how it can be productive if you're not willing to cop to not having enough exposure to either academic tech work or industry tech work.

>>61294372
>i said i have experience in both areas — industry and academia
Internships don't count. Also, almost everyone in software development has experience in academia because more and more jobs are requiring at least a bachelor's degree these days, even if HR doesn't know what it's for.

>you didn't even seem to object to the fact that i called you out for being in high school
You're free to think whatever you want. One day you'll have a real job and have to cover the mistakes of some retarded feminist affirmative action hire. Then you'll understand.

>>61269292
Watch this
https://youtu.be/tiJVJ5QRRUE

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>>61269292
But they are. Look at them all fascinated with their handheld state of the art technology.

I see them everywhere. Typing away at their electronic marvels. Even while driving on their bikes. They do truly love technology.

>>61294411
okay dude.

>>61281032
>job title is "sound engineer" and all I do is edit
Feels good to impress people with bad titles. I do plan on getting into EE just to actually engineer hardware, though.

>>61294269
>tfw licensed software engineer
I want to murder people who think they are allowed to label themselves as software engineers because they do coding

>>61294544
That's what is write on my job title. So shut the fuck up.

>>61294544
Blame HR. They set the job titles.

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>>61294518
>>61294544
I never understood why everything gets called "Engineers" at all these days, not even software developers.

An engineer is supposed to be someone working with engines in my book. And no, 3d engines do not count. I mean big physical machines with wheels, cogs and other moving parts. Things that require oil and grease to run.

>>61294632
No. It's bad translation. Engineer is not from engine. In fact it came from "ingenierie" which use the word root "genius". "Ingenieurs" are people who need a to be "genious". So smart people which cam understand complex thing.

>>61294565
>tfw it's illegal to do this in Canada
feels gud man

>>61294632
I am >>61294698

From
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Engineering
The term Engineering is derived from the Latin ingenium, meaning "cleverness" and ingeniare, meaning "to contrive, devise".[1]

>>61294730
>illegal to do this in Canada
Illegal to do what? Put engineer in my job title?

>>61294755
>Illegal to do what? Put engineer in my job title?
Ya, you have to label yourself as an "Engineering Graduate" if you want to use the term. Putting "[subject] Engineering" is illegal unless you're licensed

>>61294796
Ha OK. I don't give a fucke, I live in France. And i am not responsible of the use of that title (I never say to people that I am an engineer, just a developer). By the French state itself gave me that title when I was employed by the state, so it's legal to say that I'm an engineer. But I am not engineer graduate.

>>61280977
Women having kids much later in life, once their uterus is already nearing complete expiry date and has nearly rusted shut due to lack of practice. It's probably also gained a bunch of irreversible defects due to enduring a wide selection of birthcontrol pills, STDs and perhaps a handful of abortions.

But hey, at least she had tons fun when she was young!

>>61294518
good sound engineers will have a solid base in EE, you need it in order to actually put together and maintain a quality sound system in a studio/venue

>>61270573
Found the herbivore

>>61272671
Nurse detected. But seriously, what field are you in?

>>61269292
Because men get all upset and cry a lot if women beat them at anything.

>>61295475
Considering the total bullshit story, something that no doubt involves "spirituality".

>>61283994
Have you considered that you just have a terrible taste in women? How do you dare two drug addicts, and not go for a normal chick after?

Just don't pick up absolutely crazy women and you'll be fine.