/retro/ - Retro Computers

you know, lately i've been wanting to get a circa windows 95 era pc and not even hook it up to the internet, just have it for word processing tasks.

the feels

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>>61263338
You can sometimes find them locally, e.g. thrift stores (although a lot of these are phasing out selling computers entirely and just scrapping them), dumpster diving, Craigslist or a local auction site, etc.

I have a few Windows 95 PCs here like this one. I found it on eBay for about $60. A lot of people usually hot rod these types of PCs, adding high end parts like 3dfx Voodoos, but I usually keep them original and restore them. I built specialized hot rod PCs for games anyways.

How strong of autism do you need to get into this shit?

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>>61263135
>>61263508
Computer as fuck!

>>61263569
Too much time on your hands.

>>61263135
>>61263508
>>61263650
are you a phoneposter?

Have my dad's Amiga 500. (Bought new trapdoor ram and cleaned the fuck out of drive heads. Probably going to swap in a gotek soon.

Almost have e8400 + hd4870 + 4gb ram (last year before windows 7, when everyone stopped with XP) build running, just need PSU.

Having real trouble finding a p3 for 98/2000 era build or 486 for DOS system. Just a shitload of p4s, which as we all know, are fucking useless

>>61263685
No. Well, yes and no. I take pictures with my phone and transfer them to my computer.

>>61263690
>Have my dad's Amiga 500. (Bought new trapdoor ram and cleaned the fuck out of drive heads. Probably going to swap in a gotek soon.
Just get one of those http://amigakit.leamancomputing.com/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=1168 and use WHDLoad
Slightly more than a Gotek but way more useful

>>61263690
P2's and 3's are really common on eBay
If you can find the motherboard for it, p2 xeons are cheap as fuck, I got my 450mhz one for 5$ sealed in box

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K6 I bought for $5, swapped out the EDO sticks for SDRAM DIMMs.

Now that I got the OS swapped out with DeLicate, I can't believe it's still able to run X and a featured web browser.

>>61263793
kek, cool

>>61263735
I'll remember that
>>61263786
Not really sure how to find P2/3 boards but I'll have another look. Its very before my time

>>61263956
p2/3 boards are generally hard to find compared to the processors because the things just dont last, theyre almost all liquid capacitor boards which die over time
xeon boards in particular are hard to find because theres just very few of them, you never dig those things out of garage sales or anything, theyre all old server equipment thats been broken down
the last time i saw a board for my xeon it was a dual slot 440lx board for like 190$, and i just cant justify that cost

its like buying old 771 xeons today, you can get the two processors for pocket change, but the motherboards are just insanely expensive

>>61264065
You can still recap the boards though.

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Speaking of which, here is my L40SX.

Other vintaginzoinks and thingamajigs I have include:
>Apple
][e
>IBM
5140 Convertible
Thinkpads 760 and A21m
PS/2 8570
>Others
aftermarket 386 board
486 board with shitty Dallas RTC1287

I'm planning to hook up the latter to some case, but it uses those weird "button standoff" designs that are incompatible with my board.

>>61263135
My uncle is gonna give me his old Toshiba Satellite Windows 95 laptop as well as other goodies. What should I expect, a 486 or a Pentium?

>>61264282
Your pretty little Pentium seems to have a Zip Drive stuck in it

>>61264297
Know how it looks like? Google pic for Satellite models.

Else https://www.google.com/search?q=flip+a+coin

>>61264297
Most likely a Pentium 1, although it could have a late 486 in it (e.g. DX4-100, or even a 5x86)

>>61264282
Very nice little tower. Specs? I'd estimate a Pentium 133 or 166, maybe 32 or 64 MB RAM.

>>61263135
So older computers had mechanical keyboards. What color keys are comparatively equivalent in modern mechanicals to the old keyboards? I was way too young to know there was a difference in keyboards until I was typing on a membrane.

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>>61264369
>I'd estimate a Pentium 133 or 166, maybe 32 or 64 MB RAM.

>>61264391
Depends on the keyboard.
They also had Alps and Cherry switches just like today.

>>61264391
A lot of the later 90s keyboards are just membrane crap, but a lot of the AT-era keyboards had buckling springs, or Alps, or Cherry switches.

>>61264345
Those things are thicc.

>>61264391
https://deskthority.net/wiki/Alps_SKCL/SKCM_series

https://deskthority.net/wiki/Cherry_MX

>>61263135
why did no one clone the Win 3.1 interface for X or Wayland?

>>61264448
I actually think there is something like it.
Just forgotten in the depths of time.

>>61264440
>>61264438
>>61264415
Cool all right. I have Cherry MX blues. I kind of wanted an authentic old computer feel to maybe either rekindle old memories or just try to get some sort of experience for the past. My mom won an Apple 2 in a raffle in college that I used to play Math and Word Munchers on but I don't remember what the keyboard was like.

>>61264487
A lot of Apple II's used Alps

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>>61264369
Mother Soyo 5EHM, AMD K6-2 500Mhz
256Mb ram
Geforce TNT2 32Mb
Sound Blaster 16
3Com 10/100 PCI Ethernet Adapter Network
10Gb Seagate hard river
Windows 98/se
A LOT of retro games

>>61264549
I was way off, kek.

What sort of games? The regulars like Half-Life, Doom, Quake, etc? Or more obscure ones?

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>>61264584
yes, and others old shooters classics like Blood, DukeNukem 1,2,3D, ShadowWarrior, Rampage, Killing Time, Terminator.

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>>61264549
>>61264688
Noice

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>>61264892
90's...¿what did you expect faggi?

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>>61264549
>Seagate hard river

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>>61264282
>P/MMX sticker
>>61264549
>AMD K6

>>61264287
Awesome.
I dig the PS/2 style!

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>>61265051
Pardón, currently has a Pentium, the psu is a time bomb when i put the amd.

>>61265180
Nice Windows 98 SE edition
What benefits does it have?

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>>61265196
Basically an extension of a library of drivers and increased ram memory

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>>61265314
>increased ram memory

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>>61265314
What did your dad do together with De Niro again?

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddgmzmw6_qE

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>>61264948
I expected more Jazz

>>61265401
That's a cute little thing. Looks like they can be found on eBay for $85 plus shipping.

>>61265734
Together with a sound card, a nice cheapo retro DOS rig

>>61263135
What is that IDE thing on the screen? An ancient version of MS Access?

>>61263793
Can it run WINE?

>>61263619
Summerfag as fuck!

>>61265784
Nope, the software shipped with the organizer. Probably gonna image the floppies and archive them somewhere.

>>61265867
Perhaps, with the right version and the right compiler (this has gcc 3.4)

For shits and giggles, I'm also planning to shove 64MB into my 486 and run Delicate Linux on that too. Triple the slowness!

>>61265734
>>61265772
And it looks like as I posted that, the seller presumably saw the LGR video and raised the price to $95.

Goddamnit

>>61266620
At least he didn't raise it to $150. But still, $10 isn't gonna hurt anything.

>>61266602
>gcc 3.4
oh wow

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>>61264287
I love my L40, they're real weak-ass shit but somewhat historically significant as IBM's first real laptop, well built and still good enough for a lot of stuff.

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have this shit of a fuck coming in the mail in a week or two

supposedly it doesn't power on, but since it was so complete I couldn't help myself and figured I'd risk it and see if it was revivable, at least it will look nice with the Jornadas

any other handheldfags ITT with experience with CE 1.x/2.x devices? wondering if it's just got a backup battery/other easy power issue, otherwise I'll just wait around for a parts donor to show up I guess, hopefully it's not battery corrosion or something cap-related

>>61267154
It's almost hard to believe that IBM made it at all. Asides from the proprietary floppy drive pinout, they finally use an 2.5" IDE drive for once, after the disaster known as ESDI.

>>61267266
well, it's not like that was really a big deal when these systems were still protected by warranties, support agreements and plentiful supplies of spare parts, it's just a problem now because we're working with them 25-30 years after the fact on a low budget to boot, same deal with ESDI, which wasn't too uncommon in the high end before SCSI usurped it, it was just expensive as fuck

not to mention the whole point of the PS/2 was to introduce entirely new standards in the first place, so shitting on it for being highly "proprietary" is kind of silly

Anyone know of some interesting projects to use with a terminal with a built in modem?

>>61268592
build a phone line simulator

>too young to have experienced computing in the 80s and early 90s

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>>61264282
I had the same case back in the '97... the feels.

>>61268690
you missed when mtv actually had music too, tv in general was way better then

>>61268716
I stopped watching tv years ago. FTA is just pure garbage and paid tv is way too expensive and lower quality now. Thank fuck for cheaper options like Netflix that actually give generally decent content.

>>61268745
they want you to pay for all of the premium shit all the movie channels sports etc then youre paying 200+ a month just for tv. basic cable is so fucking shit now its just infotainment crap designed to make white people that got lost in life took up meth and show them they can do something instead of get high like do car work or cut trees down or drive a truck because the red states had to dumb education so fucking much tv basically has to teach adults what to do with their lives

>>61268745
desu I've pretty much stopped watching OTA tv since the switchover in '09, other than the occasional late night MeTV reruns

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My DOS machine for fucking around with is currently an AT P133 with a chipset that happens to be PS/2-capable. PS/2 mouse is available via an existing motherboard header with no documentation and nonstandard pinout (had to measure the pins and rewire an old PS/2 rear bracket made for some Compaq). The AT and PS/2 keyboard traces occupy the same footprint, so only one connector can be installed on the board. Decided to keep the AT connector and run wires from the PS/2 through holes under the board around to a new hotglued header, then drilled and added a second PS/2 connector to the bracket for it. Mainly happy about the mouse so I can use optical instead of running a ball mouse over serial. Useless trivia: PS/2 and AT keyboards can both be connected and work simultaneously.

Also, P3 Glide rig.

>>61263338
you know what i just realized? no matter what we do, getting old computers up and running....using a dial-up modem to try to painfully surf the modern web, we won't ever get that experience ever again of using those computers to surf the internet like how it used to be. because most of the old web is gone. makes me kind of sad. the closest thing we have left is all the geocities websites archived on archive.org

>>61270060
Let's build a new old internet. No normies, only Netscape!

>>61270060
i plan on calling people using my old dial up modem and blasting them with the modem noises but i cant recall if the modem will know and wont do the noises or wont and will do the noises

oh and i remember having software thatd make the modem answer a call and i had it where a mp3 would play thatll be fun too

Do you guys know much about mainframes?

I think it'd be pretty fucking cool to have an old mainframe. To do what, I don't fucking know. Not much, since my RPI will probably have more power.

But it'd be cool. I'm not experienced in that world, nor really anything retro. My first pc was a box that had w7 preinstalled. Voodoos, barracudas, sound cards; all things I never experienced.

>>61267241
cool, let us know if you got it fixed once you have it

>>61269730
>Useless trivia: PS/2 and AT keyboards can both be connected and work simultaneously.
Kek! Great for split-screen gaming.

>>61270500
it wants a handshake first
the handshake is the best sounding part, actual data isnt as much, but you can get a modem that requires you to dial and does not handshake

>>61267999
>so shitting on it for being highly "proprietary" is kind of silly
Those "new" standards might have been portrayed as "new" back then, but later on they were portrayed as "proprietary" as AT clone manufacturers couldn't make new cards or license the standards.

I'm still mad they decided to combine power and data into one floppy interface. That design was highly unsuccessful as with the rest of their choices, and now any of the floppy drives produced are now worth worthless amount of big bucks everywhere.

But hey, it's supply and demand...

>>61271837
>AT clone manufacturers couldn't make new cards or license the standards.
Thats the point, you think IBM liked the clone manufacturers?

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>>61264892

>>61272452
I too, like Dick Kickem

>>61273336
>>61273358
Neat, love the C64

>>61263135
fucking hell. I had one of them fag little PDA pieces of shit when I was a lad - slower than pencil and paper, insecure, nerd / geek level garbage. God damn I wish I wasn't such a retarded kid.

>>61263569
8/10 level autism lord

When I was a kid, still in high school I worked part time at a large firm. I remember having to upgrade some FAT cats psion pda.

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>>61265401

>polaroid
>80s/90s nerd glasses

Fuck, LGR really went all out on that one.
Kinda rare to see him showing his true powerlevel

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>tfw still having my second ever PC
>80286 machine, 10MHz, 1MB ram, 40MB HDD, EGA graphics, MS DOS 3.???
>last time I turned it on was in 2004 or something

Guys, I'm kinda scared of if it will still turn on, or if it will go up in smoke or something else happens.
I wonder if I should take it apart first and check the caps for bloating or something.
The problem is that the PSU is proprietary so if it's fucked I kinda have a problem since a standard AT PSU wouldn't fit into the case I guess and some more tinkering will be necessary.

>>61273837
I'd turn it on but keep a fire extinguisher ready, those tantalum caps can catch fire.

>>61273837
Take it apart.
Clean it.
Eye check.
If everything looks OK, turn it on.

If it worked in 2004 it will likely work now.
Switching power supplies, no other way to know. Disconnect from the mainboard and probe it if you want to be sure.

I've had shit that had been in storage for 30 years and worked fine.

>>61265506
arrgh right into my nostalgia ...

Are old IDE hard drives worth keeping?

>>61274817
Yes, to keep old computers that need them running.

I also saw some faggots selling or rather TRYING to sell them for a lot but I don't think any of these $400 300MB IDE drives got sold

>>61274874
I've been opening them up for the magnets and then junking them. I assumed no one would want them, and anyway can't they just emulate old hard drives now, like how they emulate floppies using SD cards? The prices for old hard drives on ebay are insane but nobody seems to be buying

This looks like a bunch of garbage

>>61274874
IDE drives? Not so much. SCSI sure.
PATA/IDE drives can easily be replaced with CF cards and passive adapters. SCSI requires more expensive active adapters.

Still, I wound't scrap proper PATA/IDE drives.

>>61274922
>jewbay
Obviously, those retarded prices never sell, so they just pile up, but there are cheaper listings, not everyone's a retarded re-seller.

Floppy drives will go more expensive too and they are sought after, even when you can replace the drives with SD adapters.

>>61274922
>but nobody seems to be buying
check sold listings, they sell great
of course nobody buys meme prices

Is qemu the best way to get into retro computing for a poorfag with no space for bulky equipment?

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Here's a Zenith Data Systems Z-Note Flex 486 that I got from ewaste

I was trying to see if I can restore it, but it has a cracked lcd that's nearly impossible to find. feels bad man.

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>>61263135
The bottom one has a 40 MHz am386, 4MB of RAM and a 2GB spinpoint(originally had a 170MB one). The bottom one is a 48k zx spectrum and those wires are attached directly to its regulator because I don't have an adapter for it. Now that I've some AY chips and schematics I'll try to build a sound card for it. I also have a K6-2 but I'm too lazy to take a picture.

>>61275427
>The bottom one is a 48k zx spectrum
dun goof'd

>>61265401
those modern sharpies ruin everything

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contributing.

>>61275536
Man, I still have this PC. Its running a 3.2GHz Prescott, 2GB RAM, 6800 Ultra, and a RAID0 from the first getn Velociraptors. Its great. Windows 7 no problem.

>>61275295
only for x86 and some ppc workstations, most systems have dedicated emulators

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>>61275427

>>61275395
maybe you can replace it with a modern vga screen

>>61275427
>The bottom one is a 48k zx spectrum
totally rad ZX bro

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Anyone else autistic enough to kinda miss visual dithering effects?
It was everywhere.

I think it looked really neat with a 256 color palette

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>>61276129
ALL OF MY HNNNNNNGHHHH

>>61276129
Miss it? I see it daily

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>>61276145
I just realized that this and my love for frosted glass effects are probably correlating

>tfw you can get an old machine to run
but
>tfw you can't 100% recreate the feeling of wonder, surprise and discovery like you felt back then
Better than nothing but I really miss it when things were so new and you discovered new stuff every day

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>>61276197
It's like that episode of Futurama where he surrounds himself with stuff from the 80s but none of it makes him happy. No matter how perfectly you try to replicate it, it will never be [decade of your childhood] again

>>61276244
is this why people start smoking weed?

>>61265314
ain't that Ray Liotta?

>>61276197
I don't actually get that, I remember it and understand what you mean, but I don't mess around with old hardware and software because of that, I just do it because I like it.

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All the older mac people I knew preferred macs in the 90s and by the 2000s switched over to PCs running windows.

All the old people I know using macs today, used PCs back in the 1990s.

This leads me to believe that 1990s macs are ideal if you want an computer setup from the era. Thoughts on this assessment?

>>61276293
Pretty much yeah

>>61276323
Best Macintoshes are 68k, specially Quadras.

Apple IIs, Quadras and PowerMac G5s are the most worthwhile Apple computers IMO.

I have an old laptop with Windows 3.1 and DOS 6.22 but some commands like help and format don't work, why would that be? Was it done to save space or could the files be missing?

>>61276469
Probably some retard just deleted them.
Sure the DOS directory is in the PATH?

Just check if FORMAT is in DOS.
If not, reinstall a complete DOS again.

>>61276651
I'm starting to think somethings wrong with it, trying to play/install stunts and every time the files go missing and the remaining become corrupt after inserting the disk and the disk becomes read only in linux. Maybe malware or a faulty drive, fuck if i know.

>>61276730
Low level format and reinstall.
Id that dosen't help, new drive.

>>61275563
>Warcraft
>Driver
>Unreal
>NFS 4: HIGH STAKES OMG
mein negger
you gave me a hard on faggot

>>61275563
btw since you got a CTR, download and play Warhammer: Dark Omen, I got a feeling you might like it. It has some weird refresh bug that it blinks on lcds, but ctrs are ok.

>>61276767
Alright, ill give it a try.

>>61276323
>This leads me to believe that 1990s macs are ideal if you want an computer setup from the era. Thoughts on this assessment?
For Macintosh's >>61276404
But there is no definitive platform from that time.
Have them all.

Typing this on an Asus Eee PC T91 from 2009. Yeah, it's not that retro, but it's the kinda shit they don't make anymore. It's a netvertible, which basically means it's a netbook that swivels into a Tablet PC. The other day I installed the Sugar TOAST edition of Trisquel on it and it runs really fast.

>>61275515
>>61275536
>>61275540
>>61275543
>>61275549
>>61275563
>>61275573
LGA775 P4 build?

>>61277205
I have a Eeepc 701 in mint condition i got for free, tried install some of the newer versions of lubuntu but only 12.04 and under work. Shame.

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it's not the autistic all-matched-peripherals setup I'm going for yet but I'm feeling pretty satisfied right now

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>>61275563
>>61276780
named off everything i could read enough to recognize
not a bad selection

>>61271837
yeah I'm not gonna knock you for hating on the drives nowadays, I mean they might have been convenient in 1987 but they sure as hell aren't now

and I mean, I don't really think it was so much the case that you couldn't license the new tech that made it not catch on, just that doing so was a bitch and expensive anyway, the high-end was profitable as fuck but not a good place to go if you're looking to make a truly long-term impact on the whole market

>>61278129
oh wait, the first two C&C games are more likely tiberium sun and tiberium sun: firestorm

>>61274922
Don't do that, old hard drives are getting harder and harder to find working. If they work, wipe 'em and sell them somewhere for like $20 a piece, maybe even less.

It depends how hard they were ran in life. My 486 uses two Conner hard drives from 1993-1994 still running perfectly without bad sectors. It's a case by case thing.

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>>61263135

>>61276323
It really depends on what "ideal" is to you. A good example of what the average person had? The best of the best from a given era (for what task?) Something visually iconic? You can talk up just about any platform or thing you like in one way or another.

>>61274922
just because people don't want to sell their kidney for one doesn't mean they're not desirable, I'd pay $20-$30 for a particular drive if I needed it for a project, SD/CF adapters are kind of boring and pointless if I can just have the real thing for the same price

>>61278069
Nice

>>61265506
>recived this gem from my mother when i was young
>i loved it very much
>took the disk with me to some friends to show it off
>they accidentally broke it while fucking around
Felt like the worst day in my life.

>>61278346
Flash memory is faster tough and more reliable
SD cards are a hack and miss tho

>>61263135
does anyone know where I can find a modern CRT buying guide?

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>>61278346
These are pretty swank. I bought a pile for sticking in my old laptops.
http://www.sybausa.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=607

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90s hacker dungeon messy grunge aesthetic rocks

>>61277131
>>61276404
Alright, thanks for the input.

>>61278412
sure but I don't really care about speed personally, or reliability either since I live in a hot, dry area where shit doesn't break very often anyway

if I only had one system primarily for running specific software that sucks shit emulated I could certainly understand going that route and trying to extend it as much as possible but I prefer my shit as if it just came off the shelf

all I'm really saying is that there are plenty of people like me out there who always want a supply of old drives out there in the occasional case that we end up losing one

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>>61276767
I got it working without reinstalling anything. Diskettes made under windows 7 don't seem to corrupt, I finally was able to install stunts, took a while to get it to work properly without crashing. Has a few graphical glitches but I'm really impressed that it runs.

>>6127869
Same here, have a Windows 7 tower with a floppy disk drive in it which I can transfer files over on without problems. Even helps I got a DOS version of PKZIP so I can fit more on one disk.

>>61278547
those seem really good for ultraportables and old ruggedized laptops, thought of grabbing a few down the road

>>61278430
4:3? VGA?
Professional monitors from LaCie, NEC, Sony. Those are great.

>>61278579
90's hacker? thats how my shit looks today

>>61278690
the corrupt graphics is just the shitty panel

>>61278728
You can really feel the speed difference in something like linux. I initially got into them because about only 1 in 5 laptops I scrounged would have working 2.5 drives.

>>61278710
some USB 3.5" drives work great too
like 720K support and support for writing non-DOS images

>>61278824
na, missing/flickering polys don't happen just because it's a passive matrix

>>61278898
that was pretty typical for Stunts under DOS though

>>61278930
all i'm saying is that is that it's not the display's fault
a passive matrix can make some games unplayable for other reasons though, mostly because of the very slow response time, even just moving a mouse cursor in windows can be difficult, and it just smears out to almost nothing. ever wonder what cursor trails is good for? it's an important feature on passive matrix displays, as it makes it much, much, easier to see the cursor

>>61278981
>even just moving a mouse cursor in windows can be difficult, and it just smears out to almost nothing
It is pretty terrible. Almost nauseating.

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It's your favorite attention whore here~

So, I'm doing an entire week of computing with no x86, and I'm planning on making a GoFundMe campaign to get some upgrdes for the RISC machines I'll be using (A couple PPC Macs and the E250 in the picture). I'm filming it, of course. Editing the announcement video right now.

Thoughts?

>>61279188
>planning on making a GoFundMe campaign
>Thoughts?

get a job

>>61279236
I'm not making any money from it, it's just for the parts.

>>61279256
Pretty sure he understood that.

>>61276244
What's the episode name?

>>61278129
The something need for speed is underground

>>61279470
oh yea, didn't really like the direction NFS took with that game

>>61279188
just get some ultra 5s and a low-end fire with solaris 8 and 10 respectively and build a slowlaris network, you'll probably be able to do 90% of what you usually do in style

>>61279188
>I'm filming it, of course. Editing the announcement video right now.
I'm not a regular here, whats your channel name?

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>>61279686
ITTFami. Don't expect much, though.

>>61279536
I loved it. The ricer/tuner aesthetic is one I miss so much. Tokyo drift 4lyfe.

>>61272452
>booger hook on the boom switch

>>61278261
>gutting a Lisa to make a "sleeper" PC

And nothing of value was lost.

>>61278261
the real holocaust here is that shitty neo-profile that looks nothing like an actual apple product aside from the font choice

if you're going to be autistic and cannibalize something that rare to do it, at least be good at it

>>61276323
I had no interest in Macs until they used Intel Processors (~2005). Before that, I only wanted a pc. Now, I'm fine with either one. I'm not autistic.

That said, I'd like to retrofit an iMac into a hackintosh, or swap in Mac Mini parts.

>>61270929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45X4VP8CGtk

My work was getting rid of a bunch of shit (dvd players, vhs players, tvs, towers, THREE FUCKING PS3 CONSOLES I CAN PAWN OFF NOW) which included four lenovo thinkcentre towers I picked off of the junk pile and are now sitting in my room.
About as a retro as I can get, using ibm monitors and vga cables.
Got ubuntu installed on at least one of them, the second one I'm gonna work one has a damaged vga port I think, gonna have to double check that.
Plan on theming one of them off a SUPER old school OS tho, like 80s old.
I was born in 96 so I never got to experience the nostalgia era.

>>61282246
the first ThinkCentres came out in 2003 and were Pentium 4, hardly retro

makes for a great space heater

>>61282470
I have a ThinkPad G40 and that has a desktop Northwood Pentium 4 in it.

>>61282470
Like I said, as retro as I can get.
Any recommendations on installing old OSs though? I'd like to emulate something like the TRS-80 or an atari PC.

>>61282565
What model of ThinkCentres do you have?

>>61273358
best monitor.
Sony Broadcast Trinitrons are unmatched

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I still use a 2006 IBM ThinkPad R60 daily. Does that count as retro yet?

>>61283106
Give it 3 more years

>>61282584
Where could I find that? Isn't it a number?

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Hey 486, thought you might get a kick out of my mousepad.

>>61283138
I believe so.

>>61264688
>Terminator
WHAT

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>>61278579
what movie is that from?

>>61283471
The Core. It's the scene where they capture Rat.

>>61283518
>tfw it was the filename the whole time, I'm a dumbass.
Thanks anon.

>>61268787
Are you aware we have invented this thing called the fucking comma?

>>61282165
His problems are why I want to get one. I'd be forced to learn otherwise I'll look like a fucking dipshit for starting a project too hard for me. Id level up real quick

>>61282165
Hopefully he doesn't become a compulsive hoarder but it's already looking bad. Interesting video non the less.

gonna buy an x86 sbc to install 95,98,3.1 etc

i dont think i really care for having the original hardware

>>61283913
cool blog i guess??

>>61283979
just wanted to bump the thread

Cleared out the rpi, time to get a virtual machine manager that'll run nicely on arm

>>61283518
Finished watching it, wasn't as technology focused as I was hoping but nonetheless a interesting watch.

>Get my hands on a terminal yesterday for 25 dollars
>System powers on, can hear feedback audio from keyboard
>Monitor is not working

How fucked is this thing? Is there any way to fix it?

>>61286242
post the monitor model, also check google for more information especially the manual.

>>61286269
also forgot, the model # of the terminal, and check google on that too.

>>61278766

I just got a 90s crt monitor has vga and bnc

its a Compag p110 and is a trinitron is a beast

>>61283439
Future Shock or SkyNET probably

>>61286308
That's a good monitor

>>61281960
this is related to /retro/ how?

>>61283106
VOGONS standards: if it's 16 years or older, it's retro

VCFED standards: if it's 30 years or older, it's retro

>>61288793
>trying to define retro
They can put up rules what to post, they can't say whats retro

Vogons is extremely autistic also, almost as much as /vr/

>>61288793
Retro.
Very open and personal definition.

Vintage.
Almost always used wrong these days, it is used to describe an era and goes together with that era, i.e. "60's vintage".

Antique.
Almost always it has to be at least 100 years old. With a few exceptions.

What are some useful things you use your retro computers for?

>>61289169
enjoyment
fun

>>61289169
Playing games that don't work correctly under newer OSes and (in some cases) VMs.

>>61288921
Relax, I'm just joking about how VCFED treats first-gen Pentium P5 users as if they were 6-year old kiddies because they are "not vintage" yet.

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>>61265383
photograph

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c-can you rate my gaming setup guys?

>>61289169
my old PCs always get loaded with a stack of contemporary software suited for what they were originally made to do, whether basic office work, databases, audio production, whatever, and I'll usually do that kind of stuff with them
my Unix stuff handles remote access, internal service hosting, development, and whatever else I can dig up for it
my PDAs get put to work as PIM devices, emulators, expense trackers, or whatever else interesting I find for them like the above two

they don't really do anything a newer system can't also do, but it's really nice to have systems you can dedicate to a certain task and the sheer novelty of a different platform can make a lot of mundane things worth learning and give them more purpose

in the end though, it's still just for fun

>>61291061
thinkpad/10

>>61291061
>Sims
My nigga/10

>>61291061
windows/2000

>>61291061
>R series
4/10. Get yourself a real computer, kid.

>>61263135
Did anyone post MacBook 2016 already? It's more than a half year old for now. Shit!

>>61292693
looool you so funny

>>61293168
judging by the age of that picture, those are probably not UV LEDs....

wound want to see the plastic on that equipment after years of use there

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>>61263135
Since virtually no one is posting ATM, here's a few pictures of an old Alienware PC.

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>>61294513

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>>61294523
The internals (notice the Slot A Athlon).

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>>61294539
The back (notice the 98 SE COA).

>>61294513
specs?

I hate these threads so much because they make me nostalgic for a period I wasn't a part of. I'm 25 but grew up as a console player, so never experienced sound cards, voodoos, etc.

I know if I get an old pc like this I'll just get frustrated as the dream is shattered.

I dunno. Maybe I'll run the old windows (although the oldest I ever used was 98) in a VM? I dunno.

>>61294593
Not really mine, but I found it on the internet. All I know is that it has a Slot A Athlon and a DVD-ROM drive.

>>61294539
>>61294523
>>61294554
>>61294513
>good looking case
>excellent cable management even by today's standards, let alone the late 90s

>>61293527
Looks like an infrared pic to me.

>>61294710
Specs?

>>61294710
XBOX HUGE

>>61294609
I mostly collect high-end PCs and Unix shit I never even knew existed until I started getting into it around 2009. They're just cool pieces of complex, expensive engineering that are fun to make useful again.

>>61294710
love this

>>61294741
>let alone the late 90s
you never had prebuilds in the 90's? pretty much always great cableing

>>61294609
You're doing it wrong

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>>61295748
I had one of these, and it was an absolute fucking nightmare.

>>61295773
Why do you say that?

>>61296433
>getting mad at something people here do for enjoyment

>>61296462
:^)

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Not really computer equipment, but I found this cute little desk fan on the street the other day. It had been rained on and was sitting on some mud, and it was completely covered in tar, probably from many years of cigarrette smoke. It also had the power cord cut off.
I completely dissasembled it, threw all the plastic pieces into a bucket of hot water with some degreaser, cleaned all the old dried up grease from the oscillaring mechanism with some WD-40, dried it and relubed it. I also put a new power cord in it, and bridged out the 125-220V switch in the bottom (back when this was made we had two grid voltages in Spain)
It's been sitting on my desk and shoving fresh air into my face for three days now, and hasn't given me a single problem.
Btw, it's a Taurus Garbí from the mid to late 60s. This model seems to have some sort of cult status around here for some reason.

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Another pic. Would you guys watch a video about it?

>>61297178
>>61297216
I'd love a video on that cute retro fan. Great job saving it and restoring it!

>>61297178
>>61297216
your posts remind me of the little brave toaster

>>61294609
At least for me, the operating system itself is just a part of it. The noise and relaxed pace of old hardware, the mandatory tinkering and tuning to get things running at all and the unique picture of the CRT are what really makes it for me, if I'm going to run shit on my new hardware I'm going to cut out the middle man and just get it working on a modern OS.

>>61297178
kek, ITTFampai
Noice fan!

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This is the best pencil sharpener known to man. Period.

This is the Panasonic Point-O-Matic KP-33a. It's built like a fucking tank. You can kill a man with this thing, and go right back to making razor sharp pencils like nobody's business.

>>61294609
you don't /have/ to have used something when it was new to apprieciate it's place in history, or enjoy it for what it is

like, if you started with the playstation, that doesn't mean you can't now enjoy snes games, or appreciate the snes hardware's look and feel. you just might not have true nostalgia for it, if you hadn't used it before

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>>61297386
That might be because I watched that movie close to fifty times as a kid. I think it made quite an impact on me, since I've always felt legit sadness for old appliances/electronics that weren't taken good care of, and restoring and using them always makes me feel warm inside.
I remember "talking" to such old electronics when I was a kid, but that might be more of an autism thing.
>>61297317
Video about it it is, then.

>>61270929

I picked up an HP Netserver 4/66 lc that has a 486DX2, 16mb of ram and a pair of 10gb SCSI hard drives that I'm having a hard time getting detected. I think the SCSI cable to the mobo is bad though.

It's an absolute giant of a case and retailed for like $4000 in 1994. I'm amazed it worked, got it for $20 from a guy clearing out his unairconditioned storage unit.

Unrelated find; last year a fully complete Apple IIGS with monitor, keyboard/mouse, and drives for also $20. It's in fantastic shape too, hardly any yellowing. College selling off its old library computers for nothing

>>61297704
Make sure the SCSI drives are properly set up.
Jumpers.

>>61278069
pardon ignorance

is that a x86 unix?

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>>61294554
Here's another old PC (from 1997), but this time, it's rare and unique.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compaq_Presario_2200

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>>61298045
Here's the Intel version of it.

>>61298045
>>61298089
there was an old ITX like computer back then. it was an square the size of a cd player with a speaker on top, it was a entire computer, I seen it twice back then and i havent seen it anymore it was around that time 1999. Any ideas?

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>>61296206
I had a taller one, 5600s with windows 98

was OK-ish as a learning PC. ugly case though
it didn't have that much bloatware compared the stuff that started coming out a few months after I bought mine.

>>61297178
>>61297216
How big is it? It looks like you could fit your whole hand thru those gaps

>>61298149
Pics?

>>61298258
I don't even know what the hell to search for. I looked into ITX machines but ITX wasn't even a thing back then. it was 1999

>>61263135
What is a good price for a IBM Model M13?

>>61298482
bout treefiddy

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Me again

>>61299126
Cute. I had a Compaq Armada E500 as a kid, everything was broken on it but it still worked. I broke the one and only usb port on it and had to transfer shit by diskette, the horror.

>>61299126
feel like dumping $60 on one of those to go with the rest of my shit but I'm still on the fence

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>>61299193
The Armada or the 320LX cause i only paid $30 for mine and the Armada was free lol

They're cool not worth more than $30 if its a CE one

>>61299126
>>61299587
How does the internet perform on that thing?

>>61299719
Never had it connected. I used it as a mobile word processor because it's easier to type on than a phone

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>>61299189
I love Armadas

>>61299738
Are the keys rubber or plastic?

>>61299882
Plastic

>>61299769
Mine is stuck in a boot loop but oddly enough my brother was playing with it this week and said it prompted for missing files. Last time i toyed with it, it wouldn't boot anything, even setup disk.

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>>61299902
Never had a problem with mine, all original hardware except for more RAM, I'd try swapping out the ram and hdd, maybe getting one of those compact flash to ide things

Also here's some more comfy trash i own

>>61299945
I have a similar looking one, Model T1960CS seen here >>61278690, mines missing the mouse and original charger.

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>>61299975
Sicc, mines monochrome though

>>61273336
What TV/Monitor is that?? I have a huge hard on for old SONY stuff like that.

>>61300031
>What TV/Monitor is that??
It's a SONY™

>>61297934
nah, HP-UX on PA-RISC
you could try SCO OpenServer if you were hoping for an x86 solution but I can't imagine the software options are that good nowadays, but I guess if you can work a compiler anything is possible
>>61299587
there's a boxed 320LX I've been looking at but I've already hit my limit with the mobilepro I already blogged and a shitpaq Aero 2100

other than the historical value they seem like they'd be nice for simple word processing and spreadsheeting and whatever else CE 1.x can do
>>61299719
with a ~40 MHz SH-3 and 4 MB of RAM even with a contemporary browser it would probably run like hot garbage if you somehow managed to hook it up

>>61300405
Mine came with an upgraded CE 2.X rom

>>61300430
good shit
I wonder if they're good enough to shittily emulate an 8086 system to open up the application potential

>>61300483
I ran a gameboy emulator at like 4fps lol

>>61300405
What about with archived websites?

>>61273358
Fuck this furrie tran ass faggot from tumblr

>>61278579
2000s not 90s

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>>61300846

>>61300628
See
>>61300489
If it choked on a gameboy emulator, wayback machine will fucking murder it

>>61301011
haven't seen patachu for a while

Are there any good youtube channels relating to retro hardware?

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>>61263135
doin some win16 coding

it's not even hard, shit these 1993 ide's are actually pretty badass.

>>61276145
The smart dithering of 24-bit color is GOOD SOFTWARE.

>>61301290
That's actually pretty cool.

Win 3.1? Doing it in a vm?

>>61301373
dosbox is easiest, since it shares your filesystem. I don't know if git is on DOS.

>>61301290
>>61301373
86Box is the best thing I've used for Win 3 in terms of performance. I think the hardware requirements for it are a lot higher than DOSBox though.

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Sup /retro/
Is there any way to get working AGA Amiga cheap in Europe?

>>61302668
Whats cheap? Unexpanded A1200's are around 200eur.
Pretty cheap for an Amiga in 2017.

These threads make me depressed. I love old technology but it's totally useless and a pain in the backside to keep around. I've ended up throwing away so much over the years. I look back and feel sad but I don't want to be a hoarder with my whole house turning into a vintage computer museum

>>61301290
rad

>>61302983
That's just you.
A lot of people take their hobbies seriously.

You most likely never actually liked it in the first place.

>>61302983
I use a dedicated room
3/10 btw, nice one

>>61302983
kek, faggot

Bye, thanks for the nice thread!