/pcbg/ - PC Building General

at what point in the year do sales usually start? i know americans have black friday but we dont have shit like that in australia

>>61238856
Cyber monday on Amazon is global.
I got a Samsung 850 500 GB SSD for 50% off last year because of it.

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What are things to look out for when switching from mid tower to micro ATX case?

Local shop doesn't have specs on the matx and the people there aren't really knowledgeable. I'm forced to just inspect it myself. Tips?

>>61238869
there's no amazon australia on pcpartpicker

>>61238905
Ship it from US.

>>61238856
Amazon Prime Day is coming up. Who knows if they'll actually be anything decent.

>>61238919
u gay

>>61238950
No. I say no homo all the time.

I just bought a new monitor and it gives me major headaches. Is this normal for anyone else? It's an Asus.

So do I seriously have to buy a 1050ti if I'm building a PC right now and can't afford a 1080?

>>61238976
Give model.
What is it that gives you major headaches?
Have you calibrated the colors?
Most monitors ship with high contrast and brightness for showroom display not meant for normal use.

>>61238992
Yes. Or a 1060.

is a 1050 an ok replacement for a 1050TI if its $100 cheaper? i'm getting along fine with a 750TI right now so i'm not a heavy gamer

>>61239043
Yes. Read OP.

>vega is just a 2 year late 14nm port of Fiji

oh wow this is bad. HBM was a mistake and nvidia saw that from a mile away which is why they stuck with GDDR

Anyone have experience with Canadian Newegg? I ordered some parts from them Tuesday morning, and it's still saying Packaging. I've never bought anything from them, so I'm not sure how long this normally takes.

>>61239083
More like Nvidia stuck to GDDR to fuck over AMD by keeping demand low, the supply was highly priced thereby screwing over AMD who had announced they were going to use HBM2.

>>61239095
bruh it's been a day not everybody is amazon

>>61239095
Did it come from Newegg or a third party seller?

>>61239113
Two days, really. I ordered it at 7:40AM, and I'm almost as far east as I can get in this country, so that'd definitely be before regular working hours at Newegg's warehouses or whatever. Also, I do know it's soon, but I had hoped to get the parts by Friday.

>>61239114
All of it is being sold by Newegg themselves

>>61238904
Friendly bump.

>>61239485
Nothing much. mATX is just a smaller ATX. Just make sure the case has enough clearance for whatever shit you put inside and that it is well vented.

>>61239525
Thanks.
How about the mount points or whatever they're called for the components? Anything to look out for there?

Do ATX psu's fit in micro ATX cases? I've done some research but I was wondering if it applies to most cases, even for no name brand ones.

>>61239577
Depends on the casing. Get a fully modular one. The mounting points should be the same for all mATX case. Mounting points for motherboards are standardized anyway.

I ordered a graphics card from Amazon about a week ago that was out of stock, do they generally take long to restock shit?

>>61239604
Nice. Thanks for the advice, famalam.

>>61239621
Depends. What GPU?

>>61239632
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01GRRRW0A/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Got it for about $420.

>>61239699
>Only 5 left in stock - order soon.
But it is in stock?
Also the non OC versions of strix are lower binned cards. Not that you need higher binned 1080ti anyway. Just thought you should know.

>>61239720
Nah, look at the $560 option, it's out

>>61239749
I can't seem to find it.
What are the stuff you selected for the $560 option?

>>61239784
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/ol/B01GRRRW0A/ref=mw_dp_olp?ie=UTF8&condition=new
Also I'm fine with it being lower binned, I just needed a decent $1500 build

>>61239806
All 3 look to be in stock for me.
Anyway you might want to contact Amazon support for this. They will know it better than people on here anyway.

>>61239855
Hmm, that's strange. I'll probably call next week anyways if nothing happens, thanks though.

>>61239962
No need to call. Just open a conversation with their support stuff. Certainly you can't be that lazy.

What are people's suggestion on all-in-ones for Ryzen right now? None I can find seem to have a fucking AM4 bracket actually bundled.

>>61240004
Stick with the stock cooler they aren't half bad

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Help me,
Should I buy a gtx 980ti used for 300, 1080 for 400 or wait for vega ? My card just died and I earned a lot these weeks. Aiming for 1440p Very high/ultra settings at 60 fps

>>61240126
1080 for 400 is a deal. Where you getting it from?

>>61240126
1080. You can wait for Vega but everything about the Vega reeks of shit and damage control at the moment.

We are 3 weeks out from launch and there is no official "leaked" benchmarks. From the speculations and FE benches, it shows Vega is pretty fucking shit and AMD has done nothing to quell such rumors except their assurance that RX will be better. It is an all round shit show but if you can afford to wait, why not.

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Lookin for a new GPU to confidently play new vidya. Currently using an Asus AEH5770, used to have a Sapphire R7 290x but that fuckin died playing a game on Steam that claims minimum requirement is Intel HD 3000. Anyway, I've narrowed it down to these 3, they look the best for their price and I'm not going to wait around for new stock to come in. Most games I play are fine on the EAH5770, but want to play Rocket League, Battlerite, CSGO a bit better, any games like that really. I don't care for graphics quality much as long as resolution is 1080 and smooth gameplay. Rest of PC:

AMD Fx-8320
gigabyte 970a-d3p
8gb ram
decent lil 500w psu, powered me r7 290x to death i guess

cheers fellas

>>61240175
>Niggabyte
Please no.

>>61240175
hope those are australian or canadian prices. but there'd be so little difference between them it doesn't matter what you get.

>>61240211
explain further

>>61240211
Asus any better?

>>61240303
dingo dollars

this is pretty much all i got to choose from, probs would get the $150 460 if it wasnt a refurb model from a chinese hardware store (biggest one here is cheapest generally)

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>>61240347
>tfw you forget the extremely related pic

>>61240347
Taiwanese brands have horrible RMA and customer service. Aside from that they are okay brands. If you can, get EVGA. Otherwise among the taiwanese brand ASUS normally has the best shit, then MSI.

>>61240366
is that MSY?

>>61240432
Yep

>>61240460
MSY blows

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>>61238778
>used to get 170 fps in bf4 on ultra
>get new 1440p monitor
>barely get 60fps with high
WHAT THE FUCK DO I DO? I HAVE A 1080 I THOUGH THAT WAS GOOD ENOUGH TO PLAY VIDYA

PLEASE DON'T TELL ME I HAVE TO GET A TI

>>61240570
Check for malwares!
Monitor your GPU usage during idle

>>61240582
>malwares
You're just memeing, right?

>>61240570
http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/best-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-graphics-cards,4725-2.html

Did you check benchmarks before moving screens?
1920x1080 = 2073600
2560x1440 = 3686400
That is almost x2 the amount of pixels your GPU has to render at the same time. Although by all accounts you should be getting nearly 60 on ultra. So there might be something wrong with your build if you aren't getting 60 on high.

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>>61240586
No i'm not, you might have a coin miner in there

>>61240647
>So there might be something wrong with your build if you aren't getting 60 on high.
Like what?

>>61240648
Can confirm. Had this happen to me just last night; was playing OW fine in the afternoon, came back to try again that night and constantly stuck at 10fps on a 1060 with a 1080pi screen, graphics only set to high. Malwarebytes found 3 things and once they were gone shit was all good again

I'm purchasing a PC from....Dell soon due to the need to pay monthly.

I need to know if I should be investing in a 7700k or a 1700X.

Part list would be as follows:

Either:

A)7700k
16gb ram
1080

B) 1700X
580
32GB RAM

Buying from Dell, does anyone know the quality of RAM used? I've been out of the hardware game for awhile, but I do know Ryzen scales with high speed RAM.

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Which would you suggest? I'm looking for a case for my new build and it seems the Node has a better design for airflow, but for $5 more I can get the define R5. What do you guys think? Also, any suggestions for cases with great airflow. Planning on building a 650W, Ryzen 5, 1080ti build

>>61240847
I don't know. I am not a fucking wizard

>>61240960
P400S

>>61240930
1700x. though most reviews put it under the 7700k i think its still worth getting especially if you do other stuff besides gaming. also id lower the ram to 16 unless you actually need 32. and 580 probably costs the same as 1080 right now but the 1080 performs better

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I'm making a build to play MMO's, MOBA's, and other competitive games on a 1080p 240 hz monitor, stuck on what CPU I should be getting, just got a few questions for anyone who wants to answer:

Do newly made 7700k's still have thermal issues?

Would a ryzen 1700x be able to reach 240hz w/ a 1080 ti in the game types I listed above?

I'm mainly concerned about longevity since i'll be playing the same old games all the time. Which chip would last the longest and reach 240fps without OCing?

>>61241056
why single out the 1700X? All Ryzen chips are overclockable and there's virtually no difference between the 1700 and 1700X

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>>61240648
>>61240927
Ran malwarebytes and nothing- as expected, since this has only been an issue with my new monitor.

>>61241016
ples no bully, pic related are specs

>>61241056
7700k does run hotter than a 1700x. and with a 1080ti I'm sure both can reach 240. though im not sure how much it takes to run mmos and mobas. And both cards will probably last a long while unless you don't cool them properly.

>>61241073
It was the closest priced AMD chip to the 7700k

>>61241088
Your monitor has no issues.
Go run a proper benchmark and report back

>>61241096
The 1700, and hell, even the Ryzen 5 1600 are close in performance to the 7700k. If you can get away with it for what you want, the 1600 is the best value CPU out there.

>>61241025
?

>>61241134
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16811854028

>>61241056
>Do newly made 7700k's still have thermal issues?
Yes and so does the 7740k and other x299 CPUs

>>61241088
monitor the GPU usage through afterburner (or processexplorer for further details) to see if it's abnormally high

>>61240366
>>61240175

Anyone know how good the Asus strix 750ti is compared to the other stuff there?

>>61241163
Huh, what's it like with noise? I know I've been spoiled with a silent case using my Define R4 for the last 4 years

>>61241201
Thinking I might just get that 2gb Sapphire 460x even though my last Sapphire card died. I'll just update the drivers this time

>>61241206
There's the silent no window and silent window versions too, but the silent window version is sold out in all colors.

>>61240004
The corsair ones I've seen have AM4 brackets and if they don't you can get one from their store for $5

>>61241255
I'm a kangaroo so correct me if I'm wrong but this is the case right?
https://www.pccasegear.com/products/37224/phanteks-eclipse-p400s-tempered-glass-black-white

>>61241088
>8gb RAM

Could be that being a RAMlet is giving you grief at 1440p

>>61241298
Yes it is

>>61241298
different version, but yea, same basic case The difference is one specific side panel.

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>>61241105
Working on it, downloading 3DMark right now. In the meantime here's this:
http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4209259

>>61241181
pic related, the spikes are me using my pc, the flatlines are when I'm not doing jackshit.

>>61241313
I realize I need to upgrade pretty badly, but do you really think my ram could cuck me that hard? What are some good options to upgrade?

>>61241448
Its your RAM. I am pretty sure it is your RAM.

Ordered my ML120

Glad I didn't glass my asshole with dumb poo fan memes

is there a ranking as far as mobo manufacturer quality/durability goes?

>>61241330
>>61241389
Thanks. Never had a viewable PC before and I figure now would be a good time to have some fun and build one. Thanks for letting me know
>>61241514
Would also like to know this

>>61241448
>pic related, the spikes are me using my pc, the flatlines are when I'm not doing jackshit.
Now how does it look in gaming?

>>61241527
The Phanteks Eclipse P400 has a major competitor you should also look into, the NZXT S340. The S340 is the most positively reviews case in recent history

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Anyone ever put a housefire rig together just for fun? Was it worth it?

Currently thinking of picking up two GTX 480's for cheap.

>>61241555
Yeah the NZXT S340 is pretty good. My only issue with it is that the roof has no filter and the filter for the PSU is trash can tier but aside from that it is a pretty solid case as well.

>>61241616
>My only issue with it is that the roof has no filter
Why the fuck would you filter your exhaust fans you stupid faggot?

does anyone know how many GPUs i can safely plug into one PSU?
i want to build a rig to render video professionally as quick as possible, and i'd need at least 20 gpus all working in sync

>>61241629
Is this bait?

>>61241634
most probably

>>61241629
Depends on the GPUs' maximum power draws. What specific models are you considering? You're very likely going to need 4-5 PSUs at least

>>61241640
i have about 15 RX590s right now but i have no idea what kind of power they draw

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>>61241469
What should I go for to upgrade?

>>61241544
caricature related

>>61241653
>RX590
wew

>>61241555
>check'd
Thanks man, I'll compare both of them. So far the Phantek wins out with it supporting more fans and being $30 cheaper. However, this is kinda a moot point with the NZXT being sold at my local shop so I'd save $50 on delivery anyway from having to ship the Phantek. If you had to rate both /10 what would you give each? Right now the the Phantek is winning me over with A E S T H E T I C S. It seems all these cases are designed for watercooling, is it worth looking into/learning or should I just stick to air cooling as a novice?

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Also 3DMark result
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/20889021

>>61241544
>>61241660

>>61241667
Watercooling is a ridiculous rabbit hole just avoid it. I'm not talking about the AIO units but custom loops and shit.

>>61241672
According to that you max out at nearly 7GB of RAM used at some point. Was that in-game? If so you have your answer: get more RAM.

>>61238778
I need to upgrade my CPU cooler and power supply. $350 CAD budget with maybe $50 wiggle room to buy both parts. Current build is below of that matters

>MSI Z170M Mortar
>120GB Kingston SSD
>2TB HDD / 600GB HDD
>intel i7 6700K
>Nvidia 1070 STRIX
>Corsair 450M PSU
>16GB 3000hz Vengeance RAM
>3 Noctua NF-S12A PWM 120mm Fan

>>61241691
Alright then, what are my best options?

>>61241683
I wasn't even considering a custom loop; hell I'm a PC builder novice in the whole, I've built 2 rigs over all.

If I'm not gonna heavy OC, and more of a budding enthusiast PC builder just looking for putting together gaming rigs should I just stick to aircooling? For reference I'm getting a Ryzen 5 1600 and i hear it's got a great stock cooler

>>61241622
Dust settles moron. Unless you are keeping your PC on 24/7, when it is off dust will settle and get into your PC.

>>61241706
Get more RAM

>>61241694
I can tell you right now this is probably your best start for PSU
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/product/g63RsY/evga-power-supply-120g10650xr

>>61241709
If you're not OCing then just stick to the stock cooler.

>>61241667
Get what you want. P400S and S340 are neck and neck in terms of features and stuff like that. All it comes down to is which one you prefer. Go watch some youtube reviews of respective cases to get a better idea of which one you want to buy. I got the P400S simply because I preferred a matte finish to the gloss one of the S340.

>>61241634
It's for a school project >>61241634
:^)

>>61241775
Goldstein school of economics?

>>61241775
you can't run all those gpus off the same machine, you need to put them in separate compute nodes, then link them up with a OS that supports clustering, and finally, you have to take the gpus and store them in your ass

>>61241718
I got that part- I mean literally which memory cards should I get?

>>61241827
Go look up your mobo's QVL. Look for a frequency you want and then starting googling those module numbers till you find one you wanna buy

Can anyone tell me the difference between the ASRock AB350 Pro and the ASRock AB350M Pro? I know the former is an ATX and the later a mATX but if the AB350 Pro is $10 cheaper and my case can support an ATX is there any reason to choose the AB350M over the AB350?

>>61241909
No

>>61241915
Quick and concise, many thanks <3

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My cpu cooler (an all in one liquid cooler) came with a fan hub. The two radiator fans are PWM. I have a non-pwm case fan. Can I still plug the case fan into the hub? Or am I better off using the regular fan header on the board? Should I go buy a pwm case fan instead?

>>61242017
Yes you can. All it means is that you can't control the fan via PWM.

>>61241827
>memory cards
This isn't a PS1. Check what RAM is good for your mobo by looking at the manufacturer website. Or get another stick of the same 8GB.

>>61242017
yes you can still plug it in
if your mobo supports pwm and you have a non-pwm fan then it doesn't matter where you plug it in
depends if you like your fan or not, I replaced my stock case fans because they were garbage

>>61241713
I've ran my shit since 2012 with no filters, system is entirely passive at idle other than one exhaust fan in the rear which is constantly running at 500rpm. I've dedusted it like maybe twice and it's clean as fuck, you aren't going to get a bunch of dust just to settle inside your fucking system you immense shitter.

>>61242050
What if that person lives in a dusty area moron. Not everyone has the same living environment you gob shitter. I am just pointing out the differences between the two cases. What? NZXT hires shills on here as well?

>>61242050
Depends on the environment. I have forced air heat and there's a visible layer of dust settling on surfaces after about a day.

>>61242050
Be glad you don't live in Australia or plains or prairies or anywhere dry. Dust every fucking where.

>>61242062
>>61242077
>>61242083
Third-worlders? On my /g/?

>>61242179
You know America has deserts right?

>>61242179
My little anon cannot be this fucking retarded

>>61242179
>third world
>air conditioning
pick one

>>61242179
I live in the American northeast. IDK why but for some reason forced air heat is popular in new buildins. Probably because of "muh children" burning their face off on radiators.

>>61242202
I'm told yuropoors don't have air conditioning.

>>61242217
Why would we need air conditioning when we have a climate that isn't pants on head retarded?

>>61242217
They don't need it. Except Germans.

I don't know if I should post here or in /sqt/ but when will the ethereum bubbke burst or in other words when will I be able to get a decent mid range gpu at normal price ?

>>61242221
Certain parts of Europe get very hot in the summer.

t. Italian

>>61240570
What port do you have it connected through?

>>61242258
No idea. Events to look out for is ETH being ASIC vulnerable or ETH moving to PoS. Barring that GPU mining will remain viable although difficulty might price out smaller players. But then again you simply move to another currency.

>shit i need right now

>a fuck ton of hdd space for my server
>like 3tb of shit
>poor as fuck and want like 40 of them

>>61241088
the 1080 has only 4gb of vram? the fuck?

>>61238778
>RX580 better in newer games
Sources?

>>61242288
Probably a bug. Speecy has the same problem.

>>61242282
buy the next dip of AMD stocks

>>61242345
Which is post Vega release.
Don't even have to buy. Just short AMD over the next few weeks for easy money.

>>61242345
AMD is just like an endless pump and dump scheme

What's the lowest ram speed I can go for Ryzen without everything going to shit?

>>61242407
2666 oc to 2800?

>>61242418
Awesome, thank you.

>>61242407
7700K

>>61242442
memes

>>61242265
HDMI- don't have a display port cable rn and the monitor has no DVI port.

>>61242520
Exclusive fullscreen or borderless? Try both.

>>61242520
HDMI usually only goes up to 60FPS to begin with.
You need more RAM and a DP cable.

>>61242543
>HDMI usually only goes up to 60FPS to begin with.
What bullshit is this?

>>61242543
In-game fps is not affected by using HDMI

>>61242564
It's capped. Read your monitor's specs. Most monitors on HDMI only go up to 60fps.
>>61242576
Which is why I said he needs more RAM.

>>61242755
I have a acer x271hu and i use HDMI

>>61242770
Shut the fuck up you retarded faggot.

Need advice as I'm completely ignorant on pc's in general.
If I'm looking at buying a GTX1080 for 1440p gaming, is it wise to invest in a Gsync monitor? They're fairly rare and really expensive if you want to combine them with ips&144hz.

If I'd have to choose 2 out of these 3: 144hz/ips/g-sync, which ones should I prioritize?

>>61242791
144hz>1440p>ips>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>g-sync

>>61242791
Panel -> Size -> Frequency -> Gsync
In that order.

Ask yourself if you need the full color of IPS? Or would you prefer the fast response time of a TN.

Afterwards what size you want your monitor to be.

Then what frequency.

And then if still have extra cash, G-sync

Total noob here. I need a new PC which I'll use mostly for browsing the internet, word processing, etc. The most intensive program I use on a regular basis is photoshop. I don't play vidya much and the most intensive games I play are Paradox games. Approximately how much would I need to spend, and am I better off just buying pre-built given that my requirements are so low? Thanks

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>>61241718
>>61242265
>>61242520
>>61242538
>>61242543
welp downloading more ram right now and getting new cables
Did I do well?

>>61242833
Don't buy a prebuilt.
Sub 500 budget build will be fine.

>>61242835
Also to add to my post: can I add these two rams in with my existing 4gb rams ( have 4 sluts total)

>>61242845
Thanks.

>>61242851
jus go 2 leddit kiddo

>>61242851
Are they the same module?
The same timing?
Same frequency?
If yes. You can.

>>61242813
>>61242815
Thanks!
I've read up a bit on TN having a slightly faster response time, however I've also read that it's a really minor difference compared to the benefits that you're getting from ips (unless you only play competitive games religiously).

Is that true?

>>61242867
Really minor unless you are really sensitive to such shit. Most people get TN because it is cheaper and they don't need the full colors.

>>61242835
> SO-DIMM

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>>61242863
Will do yoo

>>61242865
welp rip

>>61242886
How dim?

>>61242878
Alright thanks, what's the consensus about VA? It's an option where I live but I've read a couple of conflicting reviews about it.

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Not looking for any help, just ordered most of this now that the motherboard is finally available (for preorder).

>>61242900
You bought laptop ram sticks, meme lad

>>61242867
I have one of those Korean monitors that is PLS (basically Samsung's version of IPS), does 110Hz and is 1440p. I'm quite into CSGO, someone I know has ASUS VG248QE and I used to have the 27" version. Personally there isn't any real difference between the two in terms of their responsiveness, all you notice is the TN display has quite a bit less motion blur.

>>61238778
>7700k - online how 144hz
I dont unterstand the Relation between the 7700k and Display refreshrate. Does someone care to explain?

>>61242912
VA is another option. They are an alternative to IPS. Lesser viewing angles but sharper contrast making perfect for darken environments.

>>61242932
Draw calls eat up CPU performance. Because of this,GPU will bottleneck below around 100FPS in most games, CPU will bottleneck above around 100FPS in most games.

7700K is better than Ryzen if all anyone cares about is gaming.

>>61242928
>>61242939
Thanks!

>>61242932
If all you want to do is play games at 144hz and nothing else (CPU intensive) get the 7700k

>>61242942
>>61242949
Thanks

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>>61242926
Holy fuck I'm stupid

Fixed

>>61242835
You're a DIMM-wit, you know that right? holy shit what the fuck are you doing

>>61242770
Put up your speccy on right fucking now and look at the monitor refresh rate on HDMI.

>>61242202
I'm a hue and even we have aircon

I'm building my first build ever inside a Fractal Design Define Nano S case and I want to add 1 SSD and 2 2.5" HDDs.
The motherboard is a ASUS STRIX Z270i.

What cable or procedure do I need to attach another internal HDD?

To specify what I'm looking for is some kind of splitter cable or some internal hub or something.

>>61243092
>To specify what I'm looking for is some kind of splitter cable or some internal hub or something.
Is there something I'm missing? You can't just plug them into your motherboard?

>>61243092
I am sure that motherboard comes with at least 4 sata ports for SSD/HDD why would you need cables?

>>61243123
>>61243092
Yeah I checked.

Intel® Z270 Chipset :
1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M key, type 2242/2260/2280 storage devices support (SATA & PCIE 3.0 x 4 mode)*1
1 x M.2 Socket 3, with M key, type 2242/2260/2280 storage devices support (PCIE 3.0 x 4 mode)*1
>4 x SATA 6Gb/s port(s)
Support Raid 0, 1, 5, 10
Supports Intel® Smart Response Technology*2
Intel® Optane™ Memory Ready *

Why do you need extra shit? The only extra thing you need are sata cables.

>>61243115
>>61243123
>>61243133
Thank you for taking the time anons.
The case and motherboard haven't arrived yet and as you can tell I don't know shit about anything.

My hard drives are currently in my laptop and I don't have any cables to attach them to the motherboard, do these come included with it or the case or something? Or do I have to buy some cable to connect them to the sata ports on the mb?

>>61243144
Most motherboards come with some sata cables for you. If they didn't provide enough they are really fucking cheap.

https://www.amazon.com/Monoprice-18-Inch-Cable-Locking-90-Degree/dp/B009GUXU52/ref=lp_3015394011_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1499330069&sr=1-2

Make sure your hard drives are the standard 2.5/3.5 hard drives and not some weird form factor ones for small laptops which don't have the regular power/sata ports.

>>61242083
Mate, you haven't lived next to several open coal mines.

>>61243171
Yeah they are 2.5" ones.
Thank you for replying and linking me to the right cable.
I'm quite excited about my first build.
I'm going to wait until it all arrives and if I'm in need of another sata cable I'll just order them on amazon, I live in japan and they should arrive on the next day. https://www.amazon.co.jp/ELUTENG-%E5%86%85%E8%94%B5%E3%83%8F%E3%83%BC%E3%83%89%E3%83%87%E3%82%A3%E3%82%B9%E3%82%AF%E5%AF%BE%E5%BF%9C-%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2%E3%83%ABATA-S-ATA%E5%BB%B6%E9%95%B7-%E3%82%B7%E3%83%AA%E3%82%A2%E3%83%ABATA3/dp/B01N7QPTQN/

>>61243201
Yeah. Depending on your cable management you might even want to consider not getting right angle ones but that is up to you. Have fun with your new build.

>>61242835
You realize SO-DIMMs are for laptops, right? They're like half the size of desktop memory physically and won't fit in your desktop mobo.

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>>61242917
>Thermalright Le GRAND MACHO RT
>AMD Radeon RX Vega

>>61242932
7700k has roughly 10-15% higher average FPS at 1080p if the game is CPU bound but this is only apparent if you are over ~100 FPS already. In any other gaming scenario it either ties or loses to Ryzen. Note that while the 7700k's averages are higher it has lower minimums in some cases resulting in noticeable stutter.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFfcv6H5yxY

Which GTX 1080 brand should I get?

I prioritize silence over performance unless it's way out of proportion.

Are there other factors I should take into account besides some being slightly more expensive than others?

>>61243290
What is wrong with RX Vega?
It doubles as a heater during the cold days.

>>61243306
Strix has 0 db fans and those are good so i heard if you like silence

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/t7p9zM

This is the final build that I ended up getting. Bad news about RAM prices going up forced me to pull the trigger on the last core parts and get it over with. I've been a poor, nomadic soldier/student for like 7 years and have only been using a single laptop -- hence the monitor, mouse, and keyboard (got the TKL version but they didn't have it in the list).

Does anything look particularly bad? I know the 1050 Ti isn't a great card (fuck GPUs right now the next tier up is more than 3x the price), but how not-great is it? Any other red flags?

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>>61243028
>>61243275
skimmed over the item description like a moron and check out- it's like 5 in the morning here.

Anyway thank god B&H have order cancellation options, I opted for two of these instead
http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/ct16g4dfd8213

>>61243321
You don't need a custom CPU cooler if you are going for the 1700. If you are then get the 1700x, else you are just wasting money on a stock cooler you won't use.
Check your mobo QVL with your RAM and make sure they are on the list especially since it is AM4.
Do you really need M2? I doubt you need a 960 unless you need really fast read/write. A 850 will do just fine.
Also you build absolutely does not need a 850W PSU. A 650W is fine if you want OC headroom or else simply get a 550W one will do. Also you don't need platinum rating unless you are running it 24/7.

>>61243321
>That SSD
How do you even mount those type of ones?

Okay, I think I'm finally happy with my build. I have two 2TB HDD I'll be snagging out of my old build so no need to worry there. I also have a 1060 i'll be bringing with. Anything else to worry about? I plan on grabbing the next gen GPU when they drop and want this build to be at least 2-3yrs proof; anything you'd change?

>>61243381
What build?

>>61243381
Might fucking help if the dumbass that is me includes the cuntfucking link dickhead
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/smmPqk

All prices in dollarydoos

>>61243386
Looks good. Make sure the RAM is compatible. And why do you need a S340 elite over the normal one?

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"Acer 27" Gaming Monitor Predator XB271HUbmiprz"

This monitor is fine right? I don't have to look at anything besides panel, size, frequency and g-sync?

Also why do all these gaming products have edgy teen appeal names?

ok guys I wanted to build a mid range gayming pc but the gpu prices have skyrocketed, shall I wait™ for Vega to eventually come out and drop the prices on gpus and the mining craze to fade out or is it never gonna happen ?

>>61243416
It's a great monitor. I personally own it myself and love it.

>>61243413
I've been looking around, can you give me a quick rundown on how I figure this out? I can't for the life of me make heads or tails; This'll be my third build and I've never used AMD before

>>61243424
Vega isn't going to drop the price of GPUs. Only a fade in mining will. You can wait regardless. It is only 3 more weeks.

>>61243434
http://www.asrock.com/mb/AMD/AB350%20Pro4/#Memory

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What air cooler should I get to run a stock 7700k?

>>61243480
H7

>>61243446
Thanks man, seems like the B350 Pro only supports up to 2800mhz. Would you suggest dropping the RAM to that level or finding a Mobo that runs at the 3200mhz? (as the 3200mhz I get at the same price as the 2600-3000mhz thanks to loyalty discount)

INTEL Core i5 7600 3.50GHz 6MB Socket 1151 BOX
ASUS STRIX Z270F GAMING*
G.SKILL KIT 16GB 2X8GB DDR4 3200MHz CL14 Trident Z RGB
SAMSUNG SSD 250GB SATA III Serie 850 EVO - MZ-75E250B/EU
WESTERN DIGITAL 1TB SATA III 64MB 7200 RPM Blue - WD10EZEX
ASUS GeForce GTX1060 STRIX AURA RGB 6GB DDR5 PCI-E 3.0
CORSAIR Carbide 400C Preto - CC-9011081-WW
SEASONIC P-760 760W 80Plus Platinum (Modular)

What would you change in this build? Is the power supply to much? Can I get a cheaper one?

>>61243491
Its up to you. You can easily google the difference between 2800mhz and 3200mhz and decide if it is worth the switch. They have 3200mhz but only up to 8gb. You can try buying 2 3200mhz kit but that will cost you. Well really it is up to your decision.

>>61243359
I kind of wish I had gotten a 1700X, but that was the first thing I bought about a month ago because I found the 1700 on ebay for like $270. Poor reviews for the new stock coolers are why I ended up getting the Noctua. Still, isn't the 1700X almost $50 more expensive? I'm basically paying the same price as if I had gotten the 1700X outright, except now I have a good cooler. Just needs to be OC'd to >3.4GHz to make up the difference.

G.Skill sticks are on the Taichi's QVL. Flare is supposed to be specially made for AM4, whatever that means. Almost got a cheaper ASRock board but reviews said they fucking EoL'd it already after only being out for 3 months.

The 960 is only like $30 more than the 850, is that really too much?

I specifically went way higher than I needed on the PSU power rating because I'm planning on OC'ing the CPU and upgrading the GPU in the future, and the future looks like housefires or SLI (which the 1050Ti won't do either).

>>61243366
M.2 is a type of slot on the motherboard. No SATA cables, but sometimes they have M.2 cards that work at SATA speeds. The 960 is supposed to be PCI-E instead of SATA, which is faster.

>>61243506
Get Ryzen.
A 650W PSU will do. Even a 550W will be fine.

>>61243506
EVGA 650 gold is cheap no matter where you are. With a 1060 no way will you need more than that.

>>61243517
>Almost got a cheaper ASRock board but reviews said they fucking EoL'd it already after only being out for 3 months.
Oh senpai link me up with this shit. I been hearing about this all the time but no one actually posted the board they EoL.

>The 960 is only like $30 more than the 850, is that really too much?
You said you were poor so I am help you save money.

>because I'm planning on OC'ing the CPU and upgrading the GPU in the future, and the future looks like housefires or SLI (which the 1050Ti won't do either).
No single card will ever need more than 750W. Even the power hungry 290x had a recommended manufacturer PSU of 750W. Only get a 850W if you are going to SLI (don't SLI is a huge meme). Otherwise a 650W will be fine.

>>61243518
Thank you.

>>61243526
I want an overkill setup so I don't have to worry

>>61243565
>I want an overkill setup so I don't have to worry
Unless you are going to run a power hungry monster like FE in your build that pulls 300W on stock alone, you won't need a 750W PSU.

Done my first build yesterday, had some issues but updating mobo seemed to fix them, today I am no longer getting any output, fans spin and mobo debug leds flash on and off showing everythings fine I believe, mouse and keyboard light up but no signal at all on monitor, any advice?

This is my build
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6mj9HN

Bumping this >>61241514

>>61243602
I remember you. That is one problem I hate about Ryzen, it needs a GPU to test if it post so you can't eliminate that. Anyway, disconnect everything from you motherboard, leaving only the RAM, GPU, CPU + fan and PSU. Test if it will post. If it doesn't post, disconnect your GPU and bring it to another PC to test, if it works. That leaves your Mobo, CPU and RAM to troubleshoot. Anyone one at the time. Good luck anon. If you are lazy just RMA everything.

>>61243548
I should have clarified. I "was" poor. The only reason I didn't bite the bullet on GPUs is sheer butthurrt over coin miners. That would have shot me right up to $2000 for the whole thing instead of ~$1300.

The EoL fiasco is the ASRock X370 Gaming K4. Apparently they are replacing it with the X370 Gaming X, but that board has B350 tier features while being an X370 chipset.

You've convinced me on the PSU though, I'll cancel the order and swap it with the 650W version.

>>61243650
Oh if you don't have a hard budget then go ahead and get the 960 evo then. Everything else should be fine. Have fun with your build anon.

>>61243480
A literal hurricane

>>61243650
This is why I always tell people to never fucking buy AssRock. Fucking EoL on a 4 month board.

>>61243512
Thanks man. Reworked and decided to stick with MSI as they've carried me through my previous 2 builds with literally not even a hiccup.
New Build idea: https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/gbV3D8

>>61243684
Looks good and since you have checked QVL, you should be ready to go. Have fun.

>>61243640
This is just how PC building was before integrated display adapters. This is also why I keep a cheap, weak GPU kicking around as a backup.

>>61243691
Well I tried to check the MSI QVL but couldn't for the life of me find one for their boards. They say they support up to 3200mhz, if not i'll just RMA.

>>61243706
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350M-MORTAR-ARCTIC.html#support-mem-2

Don't be lazy anon. That literally took me 10 seconds.

>>61243706
Its not just the speed, it's the timing and latency too. I checked for you, your sticks are supported.

Hint: Compatibility is usually listed under "support" instead of "specifications".

>>61243715
>>61243733
>Hint: Compatibility is usually listed under "support" instead of "specifications".
And I reiterate my previous point that I'm a dumbfuck. Thanks guys, not laziness just idiocy. I'm also 3/4 of the way through some rum so go figure. Thanks for the future heads up <3

>>61243640
We are back to booting up fine again, unsure if it is still an intermittent issue or if unplugging things and reconnecting them may have solved it

>>61243781
Rma your motherboard.

>>61243805
Why?

Could someone please help me with a 900 $ gaming configuration? I have no idea where to start. I was suggested configurations by random people but I don't know if they chose the best parts desu.

Is this build any good/any flaws?

I'm on a budget and will take several months to save up the money, I want to make sure there are no issues with the hardware first.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MJryNN

>>61243811
logical increments is a good place to start

>>61243811
Could someone make a quick good one? I know i you are not a personal army but i don't want to be scammed hard

>finish build
>oh yeah OS
>Windows 7 fucking $200 in my country
What is the most reliable method to yarr this?

>>61243830
My only complaint about it is the LGA1151 socket motherboards are at the end of their life cycle, and don't have much of an upgrade path down the road. By Contrast, AMD's AM4 socket platform is good until 2020 at minimum, and has an extensive upgrade path, even including 8 core/16 thread chips
The other thing is the 1050 and even the 1050Ti really aren't powerful enough to take advantage of the extra vram, so I'd suggest a normal 2GB 1050.

Here's a build I did last night for shits and giggles that's better in the long run.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rRQjM8

>>61243830
If you're waiting a few months then I suggest taking a look at Ryzen 3 when it releases soon. Odds are good that it'll be a better value than the G4560. But if it's not you can stick with that.

I would get better thermal compound, though. Arctic MX4 is a good cheap alternative, Gelid GC Extreme and Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut are top performers but more expensive.

>>61243882
Get an OEM key from kinguin for $20-30.

Is it worth paying extra $ for a "silent case"?

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Yo /g/entlemen, I have a few questions for this build (https://pcpartpicker.com/list/B4J7jc).

Is a Cryorig H7 ok for the 7700K? I'd need to upgrade to something better if I want to OC, right?

Can I ignore the warning about the BIOS update or should I take it seriously? I can't believe that Asus would ship to me an outdated mobo right now.

In case anyone wonders, I'm not buying a discrete GPU yet: I'm sticking to integrated gfx until the ethereum bullshit goes away.

Thanks in advance. Pic unrelated.

>>61243899
Depends on the case? And how much you value quiet

>>61243903
>Can I ignore the warning about the BIOS update or should I take it seriously?
if they send you an outdated mobo then you cant use it

>>61243909
I was just wondering if silent cases weren't a meme and if they're actually worth investing money in. I do value silence a lot.

>>61243925
I've got the Define R4 and I can tell you right now half the time I don't even realise it's on, even with headphones off; that's with all 7 fan slots taken up in it too

>>61243809
Cause unplugging and plugging back stuff fixed it.

>>61243925
Generally speaking the more quiet it is, the worse the airflow is so you'll need to balance things. Usually they have dampening foam, closed sides, barely any vents, etc etc. If you can passively cool some components then you should to help with noise.

>>61243903
I would go Ryzen 7 and get a shitty used GPU in the meantime. Intel's integrated graphics are absolute dogshit.

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>>61243915
What I mean is: is that a real possibility? It's been a while that kaby-lake was released, if they send me a mobo straight out of the factory it should support it, right?

>>61243944
I'll get a normal case then, don't want to mess with cooling

>>61243959
You're going to have to think about cooling anyway... Take a look at Fractal Design's Define series like the other anon said, those are solid and pretty quiet for most people. You can have two 140mm fans in the front for intakes and one in the rear and set them to quiet mode on the mobo. Then just get a relatively quiet air cooler for your cpu and you're set.

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>>61243953
Ryzen is something that I considered, but I don't want to spend money on a shitty 460 or a used GPU, i'll just play old NES/SNES games on the intel hd until prices for GPUs go down.

>>61243957
they just print the boards and stock em up somewhere dude, they arent paying people to flash each board each time a new bios revision is released
you're better off buying a dirt cheap supported CPU or buying a different mobo

>>61243957
>That pic
Damn son...those are all very strong points at hit home 110%

>>61243975
You're just buying a headfuck with the 7700k, though. Ryzen is the better choice unless you need that extra 10-15% single thread performance and lose 30-50% multiple thread performance.

What's wrong with a shitty used GPU as a holdover anyway? Even a 750 Ti would outperform Intel's shitty graphics.

What's the cheapest GPU for 3 monitors?

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>>61243996
I'll probably have a Ryzen build next year anyway. Right now I'll go with the 7700k because it's best for emulation.

>>61243987
Here, have one of my favourite.

>>61243971
Thanks!

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>>61243925
"slient cases" are a meme. To make a system quiet you need as much airflow as possible, not sound deadening matieral.

>Silverstone FT05
>No hard drives
>Big or even passive CPU cooler.
>Custom GPU cooler (not the shit they sell your as custom cards. Actual custom GPU coolers with big ass 120mm fans on them)
>Fan curves that let the GPU get as hot as
posisble without being dangerous.
>Undervolting and underclocking

That's the quietest you can get on air.

I finally see the light with a fully modular psu

:(

>>61244031
It's not a meme, sound dampening also blocks things like coil whine and PWM fan noise, hard drive noise, etc.

>>61243975
You'll be surprised at what a hd 4400/4600 graphics card can play. Check it out. I'm currently using mine aswell since my gtx650 broke. Also waiting for price change. Playing dragons dogma: dark arisen on medium settings.

>>61244065
Isn't that a PS3 game from 5 years ago? I mean it should run that better than medium to be honest.

>>61244054
That worked 20 years ago when cases were almost completely closed up because you didn't need much airflow to cool a PC.

Today almost all the noise is caused by fans and airflow, so that's what you have to optimize.

If you can hear PWM Fan noise, your fans are shit.
If your hard drive is noisy, throw it away and get an SSD or WD Red.
If you can hear coil whine you've reached your goal of building a very quiet system.

>>61244099
Doesn't matter how much you shift goalposts, the point is that silent cases have a purpose and that is to reduce noise by blocking and diffusing it.

In fact you need less airflow and cooling today because we have much more efficient processors. Telling people to just throw out all sources of noise in a system is just frankly stupid unless they have something defective.

>>61244091
Its Capcom, they cant optimize PC games for shit. Also I regularly play Supreme Commander on an HD 3000 .

>€615 for a build in a case that I like
>€475 for the same build in a case I don't like

which one?

(pretty broke t bh)

>>61244091
Nah not really
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uwmKk7Gsyw
intel 4400/4600 is 4 years old itself(2013). it can run gta V on super low settings suprisingly. I'm relatively impressed actually as it just comes with the motherboard.

>>61244168
>Its Capcom, they cant optimize PC games for shit.
Can't and just being lazy pieces of shit are to very different things anon. Capcom holds contempt for all pc users for not buying their relative platforms

>>61244181
the cheaper one, if you get the pretty one you'll be bored with it after a week

Is this at all decent for the price?

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wKgXQV

>>61244422
>https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/wKgXQV
no need for 3rd party cpu cooler

>>61244422
Absolute garbage.

How good Samsung 960 evo ssd?

>>61244464
Ok, thanks

>>61244465
Where did I go wrong? Help would be greatly appreciated

>>61244482
you can drop the i3 and get a G4560, then if you want you can take the money you saved there and buy a cheap 1050
also try to get everything from one or two suppliers so as to save a ton on postage

>>61244482
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/zT7YGf

>>61244518
>>61244541
Thanks for your help, that does look better.

I will be building a new PC in september, should i go with AMD or intel ? My budget will be around 2500-3000 CAD. Country is canada.

>>61244736
Either go with the 1700x AMD or the intel 7700k; either is a good option but the 7700k probably suits your budget better

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need some recommendation for AM4 mATX mobo. I was planning to get the ASRock AB350M Pro4 but the stores here don't seem to carry any.

Is the ASRock AB350M-HDV any good? It has fewer slots and half the PCB thickness of the Pro4. I heard bad things about MSI boards. The Asus Prime is available.

>>61244834
I've had MSI boards for 2 builds and not a problem. Asrock is also a solid choice. Can you wait for the B350M Pro4 to come back in stock?

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>>61244888
Thanks for the response. I've asked around and it doesn't seem like it'll be sold ever (I'm in SEA), MSI is really big here. However the AB350 Pro4 is readily available, but I don't want to give up on mATX just yet..

Is it worth to buy a new GTX 960 2GB on sale for 99€ as backup?

My installed ram says 16gb but only 8 is usable, how do I change this?

>gtx1050and ti prices are rising

Please leave us poorfags alone you fucking miners.

>>61245185
MSCONFIG

For a build with:
oc'd 7700k (yes i know housefire etc, i got it heavily discounted)
oc'd 1080ti

And normal other components, ssd jdd ram a few fans coolers etc, what is the recommended PSU wattage?
650 should be fine right?

How's this build? First build and not a lot of free time so not really trying to go all out. My buddy got a 1080 ti so he's selling me his 1060 for $150.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZTqsNN

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ct4DHN
Left out storage since I bought a new SSD and HDD recently. Other than that am I forgetting anything?

Budget is $1500USD max for my video games, any extra I save helps for any changes due to stock and a bigger budget on 1-2 new monitors. Might use a 1700X if Microcenter runs out, since I'd be paying only $400 for the CPU+MOBO because of the bundle.

>>61245569
>State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA)
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?

Convince me to get R1700 now and not wait for Coffee Lake for 2 less cores and way better single-core performance.

Seriously though, please do. I'm tired of waiting to build a PC but it seems like at least waiting to see the specks and price on Coffee Lake is the most reasonable thing today.

>>61245574
I'd recommend going for 3200 mhz memory if the cost isn't too much bigger.
Maybe you want some case fans.

>>61243517
I just got the Nh-D14 because the stock cooler from AMD was shit. This guy dropped my CPU temps by ~20C.

>>61245592
>better single-core performance.
How does that matter even for you?

>>61245535
That thing will run even on 500w. So 650w for heavy overclock & lots of headroom makes sense

No real budget, but trying to make a dedicated storage/media machine for myself and 3 room mates. Consisting of 2 laptops, and 2 desktops, was wanting to help out and trying to clear their systems up by storing most the stuff to a dedicated machine, while also being able to stream the movies/music from the machine onto the devices we use.
Was considering plex, but not a clue how to work that into a storage system as well.
Would like it on either 24/7, or for a good portion of the day.
Put this together a little bit ago, but not sure what I'd need for the use.
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/Rg9Thq
Ideally would like to make it a lot cheaper, while still maintaining decent performance for its' use.

>>61245667
Yeah that's what i figured but it's useful to have a second opinion thanks.

>>61245657
The only things I'm really doing on my PC are shitposting, watching videos and playing games. Obviously, I want the best performance at the latter. I've also had a pretty bad PC for the last... 7 or so years, I'm going to play a lot of games from that period, on highest settings in 1440p. I know modern games will probably (hopefully) be better optimized for MOAR CORES, hell Crysis 3 is one of few games which perform noticeably better on Ryzen, but a lot of games from that period love a strong single core.

Plus, I heard that's a problem with emulators too.

>>61245332
All prices are. 1080 prices have gone from 550 to 590 in three days and 1050 have gone from like 140 to 180 here in EU. Guess US isn't better.
Miners need to fucking die.

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I already have a PSU, GPU 1 SSD and a 3TB HDD.

I'm building a Linux machine. Mainly focused for small content creation and very light gaming. I know this is overkill but I mostly use ffmpeg to encode or change file types. I want something that doesn't draw too much power and make too much heat.

What's the best motherboard for a single GPU with some PCIE expansion slots? I might want to get a capture card or audio interface to get rid of the external one I have.

>>61245569
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ct4DHN
it's shit, read the op

>>61245574
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ct4DHN
you don't need a platinum psu (ratings are a meme anyway). supernova 550 / 650 is more than enough.
get a mid tower case unless you need have shitloads of hdds. full towers are huge.

>>61245734
go with r7 1700 if you can make use of the additional cores. also you probably meant r5 1600 in the pic, not 1500.
hybrids are a meme. just get an ssd instead.
for ryzen look at b350 mobos from asrock or msi.

What's pcbg's go to hdd? WD black are loud right? I'd prefer something reasonably quiet.

>>61245860
>>61245860

>>61245806
Aye WD black are loud and entreprise-aimed so don't bother with them unless you have a good reason for it.

>>61245686
I dont know shit about the storage and media server world. One thing you should consider is the cost of electricity wherever you live.
If it's above avarage go for a platinum psu since you plan on keeping it on 24/7.
There are websites that calculate whether its worth it for you after you input the electricity cost in your location

>>61245800
What about the OP? The i5 reference?

>>61245971
Yes. You don't want a CPU that'll become the bottleneck in any CPU intensive game.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DXjXQV
>State the budget for your build (and country if not the USA)
No more than $750-$800.
>List games/software you use often, as well as your monitor resolution + refresh rate
Mostly going to use it for watching streams, schoolwork and occasional gaming (lower settings of course).
GTA V
Fallout 4
BF1
Maybe Destiny 2 when it releases
I mostly play on consoles since that's where the people I game with are. Just want the option.
1920 x 1080, 60Hz
>Clarify your goal for build improvements: lower price or improved specs?
Improved specs if possible.

>>61247423
You don't need a 80+ gold PSU so you could save money on there
Looks good otherwise

>>61247512
thanks, anon

>>61245800
>>61245617
Thanks for the input, my wallet won't be taking as big of a beating now especially after remembering something important. Moving up to 3200 on the memory and actually removed the PSU since I forgot I'm using a Seasonic 650W I got a couple months back after my old supply died.

Now I can transfer both my storage and power to my new build, which helps a lot.