What's the point of using pic related instead of Android?

are you retarded?

That is Android.

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>>61224105
Privacy guard.

what do you mean "instead"?

it's a distribution of android, based on AOSP
it's kind of like the "debian" of android, in that it's a popular, general purpose distribution, not aimed at any specific hardware or purpose, and isn't made by a corporation

>>61224105
That is android.

>>61224105
I hate you so much

>>61224105
Lineage OS is Android. People here like it because it doesn't include Google shitware like Play services or any carrier/manufacturer bloat and it gives you full control over your device. It also gets frequently updated.

>>61224137
This. Essentially an extended permissions system. Even lets you block Google services.

>>61224105
You have heard the bell toll but you don't know where the clapper hangs.

>>61224105
The only way to update android phones.
Lets you run android without Google Play Services (GPS)
Or at least makes GPS optional.
More features than the stock options while somehow less bloated

It'll turn your camera to shit, don't flash it.

>>61226959
>it gives you full control over your device
You cannot have "full control" over a smart phone when the baseband, bootloader, firmware, and drivers are all proprietary and locked down, and the phone doesn't function without them.

>>61227174
Some phones have a flashable version of their stock camera app and for Samsung phones at least, the only thing post processing lacks is saturation. That's easily fixed by using a third party camera app and increasing saturation values. After that, the photos taken on a TouchWiz based ROM and an AOSP ROM and indistinguishable.

>>61226968
>having gapps installed in the first place
son, I have something to tell you ..

>>61224105
>What's the point of using pic related instead of Android?
Android phones get no support so you're stuck with installing this (literally) pajeet-tier shit OS.... that breaks most of your phone's HW features.

>>61224105
Many people forgot to mention that you can get the latest security patches, instead of ones the OEM decided to stop at.

I need root for this?

>>61227260
no

>>61227289
Allright

>>61224526
>it's kind of like the "debian" of android

that's highly incorrect, please reflect on your words; lineageos is to android what chromium is to chrome, if you want to make an analogy of it

>>61224105

To be an autistic fuck who likes shit not to work

>>61227496
enjoy your botnet

>>61227487
the "chromium" of android is AOSP
if you want to compare with chrome, then lineageos is more like "the opera of chrome"

>>61227487
No, more like Lineage is to AOSP as Chrome is to Chromium. Or better, something like Android as in Nexus phones is to Lineage as Chrome is to some other Chromium-based browser: same base, with different stuff built on it. Like Debian to RHEL.

>install LineageOS
>camera doesn't work
>GPS doesn't work half the time
>IR censor doesn't work
>flashlight doesn't work
At least the botnet can't see me, except they can because it's a fucking cell phone, where you cannot go anywhere without cell towers knowing your exact location

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>>61224105
>that battery drain...

>>61227550
>my i9300 gets 2 full days of battery life

Why would I when Vanilla exists?

Asking why to use LineageOS instead of Android is like asking why to use Red Hat instead of Linux. It's a distribution of Android, and it's one of the less bloated distributions. You can run it with or without GAPPS, it comes pre-rooted so you can remove whatever you need.

I think one of the nice things about Lineage is that it runs on a lot of phones, and updates frequently. Even if your phone's manufacturer has stopped updating the version of Android that the phone shipped with, you can still receive software updates for quite a while if you use Lineage. Furthermore, they tend to be quick about getting those software updates out.

>>61227574
Same here. My OPO gets about 2-3 days on Lineage, but it only got about 8 hours on Oxygen.

>>61227574
from what? Just sitting in your pocket all day?

>>61227213
Lineage for my phone (Z5C) says it includes "stock kernel and blobs" but I don't know what this means for the camera.

>>61224105
How many more years until a milestone release?

>>61227539
you deserve all of that, you need to read the compatibility issues before installing, some phones are not worth trying

>>61227608
eMail, slack, google now feed, light browsing.

>>61227634
Only one mentioned before I installed was GPS not working over wifi, but it also didn't work on cellular data.

IR Sensor issue was only mentioned long after I'd already gone back to stock

>>61227647
how many hours of screen-on a day would you estimate? I have a phone with a 4000mah battery, have location turned off all the time, have brightness at the very lowest, and I still barely have enough to get through the day with maybe 5 hours of screen on time

>>61227670
1-3 hours on a typical day. I only really use it when I'm away from my desk.

>>61227026
Can you not call google play services GPS? gapps is community standard. GPS is global position system. Gapps means google apps yes but most gapps cant run without gplay services anws, might as well call it that

>>61227682
It is a tracking system, I think it fits.

>>61227670
What version of android are you using, and do you have Facebook installed?

>>61227617
That's the best possible scenario. And most manufacturers don't provide camera blobs (open source camera drivers), although comparable photo quality can be achieved on custom ROMs now. If the camera is lacking some device specific options, that could be harder to solve, but not impossible.

>>61227670
Follow these guides as much as possible:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-0-0-hour-idle-battery-drain-stock-t2973588
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884

>>61227260
I believe you just install a custom recovery and just flash the build that's compatible with your phone, not 100% sure if you need root to do that anon. But do some quick research

>>61224105
Good for you to have a choice, anon. I'm stuck with RR for my old phone.

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>>61227599
>tfw have a g6 and waiting..

Might do that. What's the best way to backup my current stuff? Running a stock android.

>>61227599
It actually is not prerooted you fuck.

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>>61224105
Because I got android 7.1 running on my old s4 mini

>>61227213
There are no decent third party camera apps you retard.

>>61228506
Damn, you said it brother!

>>61227213
Name some good third party apps

>>61228660
But you called me a retard, I'm wrong either way. I'll indulge you - CameraFV5, Open Camera, Snap Camera HD, Manual Camera. I've tested what I've described and you have nothing to lose by doing so yourself.

Well it's not like it could be worse than Android (besides iOS)

>>61228687
Not the guy you were talking to. Was just curious what some alternatives were.

>>61227218
Good luck using any Apps, ever

>>61227232
Works fine on my LG G3/Nexus 7, and this ROM isn't made by pajeets, not that that matters

>>61224105
>Most recent android version, when vendor doesn't give you anymore updates
>OS without google bloat, through Gapps you can still opt in but still have control over the amount of services that come with it.

>>61224105
why normalfags are so obsessed with installing roms on their smartphones or it is just here. not talking about lineageOS tho, my bro just accidentally removed all his data and doesnt even has a stock rom now,
just whenever i ask
>why do you install custom roms maintained by one or 2 people instead or stock
>for visual effects
fuck this is always the answer and all of them refuse to use klwp or things that actually let you rice.
fuck normies who jump on bandwagons without even knowing whats up

>>61229183
Most apps that complain about not having gapps will still run
I'm yet to encounter a problem

>>61229327
This
t. BB10OS user

>>61229303
he can restore stock ROM easily though
it's not a normie thing, but if it spreads to normies it would get more momentum, lineage has millions of users already
if you really going to defend stock roms, you are the real normie, almost all phone manufacturers fuck up android updates, it comes with shitload of bugs, worse camera, worse battery life...LineageOS is like installing clean Windows on a bloated laptop tbqh

>>61229183
There is less than 10 apps that actually won't work without google services. And even they work if you patch them up.
You always have Yalp store to download apps from Google, or aptoide as an alternative.

>>61227508
Again, wrong. Opera is fully closed source.

>>61227599
>red hat instead of Linux
The L in RHEL stands for Linux.

>>61229303
>normalfags flashing ROMs
This doesn't happen. I'd be surprised if more than 1% android users used a custom ROM.
The benefits are there for chink-tier devices and old devices which aren't updated anymore.

>>61224105
LineageOS? More like UnderageOP

>>61224105
because it adds features android should have to begin with, removes bullshit it shouldn't have, allows you to continue updating your phone long after your shitty amerifat jew carrier decided to stop caring about it, etc. this is like asking "why do people use Linux????"
>>61227174
eat shit and die normalfag. the stock camera works well enough to take pictures of things. that's all it should do. muh DSLR tier camera shit needs to fuck off.

>>61224105
I have the s6 and Samsung bloats stuff up to the max, can't wait for lineage to go official on my phone

>>61228506
opencamera you nigger

>>61229633
>>61229745
or maybe i just live in a 3rd world country.
my main concern is if you are doing it only for visual effects flashing a rom is useless and you are not even improving visual effects, and theming and ricing can easily be achieved without flashing a rom using klwp its just rage inducing that people do things that they dont even understand properly just to be hip

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>>61230674
i haven't used the stock rom on my S4 at all, threw cyanogenmod on it the moment i got it
but i can't imagine what they did to their rom, as i've noticed it has a 2.7GiB partition for /system, which is gigantic. this is a 4.2.2-5.0.1 (stock) phone, yet lineage, at 7.1.2, is only using 600MiB of /system
i've tried recently to repartition the device so i can actually get access to all that space, but can't get it to accept a modified PIT

>>61227174
Just install OpenCamera, in some phones it becomes better than default.

>>61228289
We are already at 7.1.2, bro.

Is ResurrectionRemix and others any good or is plain LineageOS the best?

>>61227604
Are you on nougat? I'm still using cyanogen marshmallow on my OPO.

So can I just flash this on my s5?

>>61232874
only if you ask nicely

>>61232874
If you don't have the AT&T version and maybe the Verizon one.

>>61233249
Have the international one. G900f to be precise.

Does it run good with Nexus 5? I work as Uber driver part time so I need the GPS to function properly.

>>61233832
I have hammerhead as well... GPS works fine with HERE maps.

>>61233832
>>61235383
Running the latest weekly build btw.

>>61229745
>The L in RHEL stands for Linux.
That was his point …

>>61227695
But it doesn't you stupid fuck, don't be a faggot just because we have community standards.

>>61227599
>It's a distribution of Android

It's called a ROM, dumb cunt.

>not support for my 4 android devices
That is why there is XDA with Shitty® unstable® roms® that just werks™

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>>61227706
>using the Facebook app

>>61237906
>>using Facebook

>>61231137
>samsung never changes

>>61227207
That's a level of control no one wants. Everyone wants to play with the light switch, no one wants to see the basic circuit that makes it work. And that's not a bad thing either, preventing access to modify the bootloader is the reason 'software bricks' don't exist on Android anymore.

>>61237906
I think the point was that Facebook kills your battery, and if >>61227670 responded yes, then >>61227706 would have told him to uninstall it.

>>61229204
It does list a lot of streetshitters in their contributor list though.

What's the best phone to run LineageOS on?
All the popular ones are budget phones or outdated phones.

I want to get a new Android phone that will get good LineageOS support.

>>61233832
>Does it run good with Nexus 5?
run well*

>>61233377
You should be fine then. Make sure to install a rom that's specifically for your version of the phone.

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>>61224105
Makes my Moto G an actual usable decent phone, its a pile of shit on stock

>>61230701
Not him but open camera is a fucking crashy piece of shit

>>61240519
OnePlus?

>>61227599
>I think one of the nice things about Lineage is that it runs on a lot of phones, and updates frequently.
This sounds like a decent reason, since many carriers rely on android revisions as product differentiation. Still, if you're up to date, a rooted android with gapps swapped with the open gapps or microg or some other replacement seems better, even more so if you can just straight shut them down.

>>61241129
Which one? The newest one?
Does it come with LineageOS installled on it since the CM guys make it OnePlus?

>>61241300
OnePlus seems pretty cool about CFW as a general policy There's support for previous models, not the 5, but OnePlus released open source bits for the 5 so it might not be too long before LineageOS ROMs are available. It ships with something called OxygenOS, which is actually bretty gud for a stock ROM..

>>61241300
>CM guys make it OnePlus?
CyanogenOS and Cyanogen in general were a shitfest and OnePlus was right in the middle of it. I'm surprised the guys who decided to fork CM into LOS even support OnePlus shit given how much it has fucked them in the past.

>>61241373
>>61241430
OnePlus originally shipped with Cyanogen. They had to switch to Oxygen (which I think was just a fork) in order to distribute in India or something, since some other phone had an exclusive distribution deal with Cyanogen.

I think a lot of people who bought OnePlus phones, or at least the One, did so because it was a good phone with first party Cyanogen support. So there's probably a portion of the former Cyanogen/OnePlus community who have stuck with OnePlus and moved on to Lineage, and are developing for those phones.

Paedophiles dont want to get caught

How stable is this shit? I have a V20 that I've been thinking about taking off of stock firmware (the volume warning is stupid, especially when I have it hooked up to my car through aux...) The wiki lists no issues or anything

>>61242277
It's very stable

Should I use this for my opo? I stopped receiving updates once cyanogenmod is rip

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>>61227599
Still waiting to be compatible with my S6