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VICE says they will be disabling "right-wing archiving sites"

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AFAIK, the only thing a site can do is use robots.txt to ask the racist, sexist, bigoted archive sites to stop archiving them. But robots.txt is voluntary and sites can just tell Vice to fuck themselves, right? Is there anything else they can actually do to fight the "violence" against "ethical journalism"?

Is there a legal issue? Would it be copyright infringement if archive.is disregards the robots.txt?
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>waybackmachine is right wing

what the fuck? what is this about?
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Blaming the completely wrong people
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This is fake. Funny, but fake.
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>>61216161
Probably, we don't know. Internet archives are probably a gray area that nobody has bothered to challenge in court. They don't want to risk losing huge amounts of money when a law suit happens so they just honor the robots.txt. Just use a mirror site like unvis.it and archive the mirror.
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>>61216161
Hard to say without a legal team. If you don't modify the site and archive it on a user request, I guess you're in the safe harbor. Respecting robots.txt isn't per se required but would help you in front of a judge.
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All of vice's stuff is still on archive sites as we speak.
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>>61216234
The ones on that were already archived are still there. It's impossible to archive newer stuff.
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>>61216201
>>61216223
There has been precedent with a case against Google's caching. Someone put up his images where he knew Google would crawl and deliberately didn't put a robots.txt in place, then sued Google for infringement. Google won because he didn't use an industry standard opt-out, but I don't remember the case so I can't quote directly.
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>>61216252
It's caching, though. Internet archives are meant to be permanent, as opposed to caches which are temporary by nature.
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>>61216198
I actually can't find a source for it, so you might be right. It doesn't appear on VICE's social media. Every mention of it is the same screenshot, but never providing an original link to the post.
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>>61216270
When does Google take down its cached images though? I figure they'd be up until they don't find the original image anymore at the earliest.
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>>61216161
Nice photoshop.
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>>61216277
Either way, it is still evident that archive sites no longer work on the website.
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time is racist
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>>61216307
But if the site updates, does google change to a more recent cache and get rid of the old one? THat's one of the points of archiving, is a lot of these sites will publish some bullshit, then after being called out on the bullshit will edit the page and deny that they ever published the bullshit to begin with. Will a google cache show the old version or just the new edited one?
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>>61216161
This is funny but I can't find any source for it. So its probally fake.
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>>61216357
>>61216320
all you have to do is try and archive a vice link
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>>61216376
It works.
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>>61216277
Are you surprised? Endless "info"dumps of heavily artifacted jpegs furiously falsified by some neonazi in his moms basement is what passes as investigative journalism and proof in your alt-right movement (that is, on /pol/)
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>>61216161
>leading millennial news source
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>>61216161
Fake news. Fuck off now.
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There needs to be a fake news report option.
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>>61216376
>>61216392
>>61216357
>>61216320
Wayback Machine 404s but archive.is still works. IME archive.is always works for any site while wayback respects robotstxt so maybe that's it.

Either way, even if vice is blocking wayback there's no proof this specific post is real

>>61216178
To be fair it's usually feminist/SJW sites that need to be archived, since they frequently change their posts and then lie about it
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TLDR: We don't want to be held accountable to what we say
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>>61216392
Ah, well I guess I was proven wrong this time. I tried archiving a link yesterday and it just got the 404 page from vice while normal visits will show articles. Either vice knew they fucked up or archive.is just dgaf about robots.txt
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>>61216161
> And other right-wing archiving websites
> Right-wing
> which are being used ... to discredit us ... by having archived articles, blog posts and opinion pieces without giving us a chance to ... remove or edit them

So basically, anything that keeps you from talking shit, deleting it and claiming "I never said that", is for some reason "right-wing", racist, bigoted or islamophobic.

> SVD.se

Of fucking course Sweden had to be fucking involved somehow.
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>>61216437
robots.txt and the mechanics of archiving/blocking archives is /g/-related you tard
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>>61216454
Yeah, and I'm asking about how to get obscure tickle fetish porn from the internet. Since it involves a browser, necessarily running on a computer, and connecting to the internet, it's technology.
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>>61216493
what is the problem with the Amish?
everything is technology
what is the problem with your argument?
(apart from you are pointlessly bumping a thread you disagree with) everything is technology
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>>61216493
But you're not asking anything about the technology. You're retarded and you know you're being retarded.
A technology post about porn would be something like "when will we be able to smell BRAAAPP porn?"
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>>61216514
>pointlessly bumping
You couldn't have made it more obvious you started coming here in the past few years if you had come right out and said it.
I'd also be impressed if you managed to make it more obvious you really just wanted to talk about muh SJW's. Sorry that the replies to this thread are almost exclusively about the veil instead of your intended topic.
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>When your articles are so poorly written you start getting mad at people who point out inconsistencies
Jesus Christ
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>>61216555
It's about a WEBSITE, on the INTERNET, running on COMPUTERS, all of which are TECHNOLOGY.
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>>61216565
>>61216578
>SJW newfag troll tries to accuse other users of being newfags who just want to troll about SJWs
wonderful
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Just go read their robots.txt, doesn't disallow anything whatsoever.
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>>61216612
>you're new if you don't like getting mad at SJW bs in your technology board
>b-but I'm not new for thinking that every post is a bump
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>>61216629
>he's so new he doesn't realize that this is an anonymous board without ID tags
>he's so new he doesn't realize he's talking to different people
>he's so new he doesn't think we should talk about technology on a technology board
>he's so new he doesn't know you're supposed to tell people when you sage a thread
>he's so new he doesn't realize that even if his responses are saged all he's doing is prompting others to respond and bump it 30 seconds later
>he's so new he hasn't realized this thread hasn't left the first page since he joined the discussion
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>>61216648
>he's so new he thinks it's spelled "saged"
It's spelled "sageta," as "sage" refers to "下げる" (sageru), which is Japanese for "to lower." The past tense form of this word is "下げた." It does not refer to the plant, as many people still seem to think. Just remember that this is an anime website, and you should remember the rest.
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>>61216648
>>he's so new he doesn't know you're supposed to tell people when you sage a thread
retarded?
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>>61216578
And GAYMES are SOFTWARE that run on COMPUTERS, some can even use the INTERNET. That's all TECHNOLOGY
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>mac font
Woah, someone was really trying hard
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>>61216661
We use "sage" as a verb and since this is a fucking american site we speak american, where the past tense is "sage-d"

>>61216673
nah, it's custom to either put "sage" in the name field or to add a snarky comment at the end letting the OP know that you are saging their thread. Half the point of saging (or "sagetaing") is to tell the OP to fuck themselves, and you can't do that if you stealth-sage
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>/g/ literally falls for fake news
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>>61216161
Sounds like they don't want to be constantly shit on for their horrible, inaccurate, garbage-tier "journalism".
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>>61216161

If a legit user can view it, so can a bot
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>>61216161
If you can view it you can archive it, even if it implies using a camera to take photos to your screen.
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>>61216161
>Vice
>reputable news outlet
AHAHAHA thanks for the good laugh

This is great news really. There is no reason to waste any resources archiving complete garbage
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>>61216161
> Ministry of Truth declares alternate repositories of history as double-plus-ungood.
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>Blatantly admitting to censorship against political dissension
Good job vice, you played yourself
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Is there an ad blocker list that blacklists these kind of "news outlets"? I wouldn't mind if it also included right-wing websites, I just don't want to download (((their))) content to my computer, not at all.
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1. google "vice archive" and the only links claiming this are /pol/, some altright newsblog and "ageofshitlords.com"

2. https://archive.fo/XAC8C

stop believe unsourced screenshots on 4chan, morons. you can debunk this yourself in less than 10 seconds. the only reason not to is if you actively will yourself to believe a lie
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