SCSI hdd - why so heavy?

Have you filled them with data? Try deleting some unnecessary files to lighten them up.

>>61200710

SCSI is a dead interface bro. 15K HDD are extinct.

SSD media completely rapes their shit even budget models using SATA interface.

Spinners only existed because they are still cheaper and denser for bulk data storage.

>>61203150
HDDs have more predictable performance in enterprise, so your argument is invalid

>>61203210

No, HDDs are just cheaper and denser than SSD media.

That's why still exist in the enterprise world. It has nothing to do with performance. HDD performance have far less consistent then SSD media.

Once solid-state media reaches price and density polarity to spinners. HDDs will go the way of floppies.

Did their weight break your wrist you fucking faggot?

>HDD
>denser

https://www.extremetech.com/extreme/233358-seagate-unveils-the-worlds-largest-ssd-60tb

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>>61205356
Seagate makes SSDs now?

>>61203259
>Once solid-state media reaches price and density polarity to spinners. HDDs will go the way of floppies.
lol they achieved those profit margins years upon years ago
and have far larger storage capacity limits as opposed to HDDs
retailers are just milking retards because volatile flash memory is somehow easily overpriced and sold to morons who don't know any better

>>61200710
More thermal mass and/or better build quality to support the internal mechanisms to a higher standard.

>>61203150
SCSi is far from dead. SAS (Serial Attached SCSi) Is very, very widely used. And will be for many, many years to come.

>>61206445

NVMe and Optane is what will end-up killing SAS. SAS will die as soon as spinner go the way of floppies.

>>61205356

It still has to reach price parity though

>>61206615
Yeah, someone looking at a workload going for a few million IOPS won't even consider HDDs regardless of their price.
Then you got companies that don't even give a shit about price and use these things for storage.

>>61206602
>saying this while tape storage still exists

>>61200710
They're heavier because of the shrapnel armor.
Ever seen a disk shatter while being spun at 15,000 revolutions per second? Those fragments are moving very fucking fast.

>>61206891

Tape is still the best medium for back-ups and archival data storage because it is cheap, dense and doesn't lose its data because you look at it funny.

>>61207006
And HDD is still the best medium for being inbetween the slow, dense archival tape and the fast, light SSD.
That's not going to change any time soon. NVMe and Optane introduce faster, more expensive, high level storage but for big data or supercomputer environments you are still going to need petabytes of fairly fast access storage below that.

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>>61206973

>mfw reading this while having a 15k rpm SCSI HDD 1ft away from my dick

>>61203150
>SCSI = SAS / 15k still alive
Problem with SSD in the enterprise is its damn expensive. Consumer TLC or MLC don't have the longevity needed on busy enterprise systems where spinning disks do.

>>61206445
the original long scsi ports and the sata compatible new scsi ports are different things.

>>61200710
Try to install gentoo that might help.

>>61201930
Not even kidding, I thought my Wii controller got heavier when I stored Miis on it

>Are they heavier because of the beefier motor
yes
>or are they actually built to last longer?
yes

>>61200710
SCSI is hot-swapable. Good luck trying to achieve that with an SSD.

>>61209748
maybe if you have your sata set in IED mode for whatever reason

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>>61200710
lots of platters man

scsi was for enterprise = lots of data = moar platters = expensive

>>61209748
you know that SAS SSD's exist right?

>>61203150
>SCSI is a dead interface bro.
The original parallel SCSI interfaces are dead, but the SCSI protocol lives on in SAS, UASP, iSCSI, FC, etc.

>15K HDD are extinct.
15K SAS drives are still being produced and used today, although only in the 2.5" form factor.

>SSD media completely rapes their shit even budget models using SATA interface.
Wrong. SAS SSDs can reach speeds of over 12gb/s with the third revision.

I thought because they have multiple plates

It's clearly because the higher spindle speeds increase the rotational velocidensity.

>>61208341
post pics of your pen*s on hot scsi disk please (nohomo)

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>>61213466

>>61209049
u320 drives is still in use in legacy products, bank servers ect that people are too scared to upgrade from. New-old stock can go for some great money since they're rarely available now

>>61206973
15k drives don't use the glass-based platters, they're all some type of aluminum alloy. That has 0 chance of going thermonuclear at 15k. The leading edge is only going 130ish mph.

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>>61209748
SSDs are perfectly hot-swappable. Some of the pins are shorter to detect disconnection.

>>61210892
ATA was about encapsulating SCSI commands and sending them over IDE cables. SAS is basically a full duplex SATA with longer cables. Everything storage is SCSI one way or the other these days.

the kinetic energy of the 15000 rotations per minute make it heavy

i like how it's pronounced "scuzzy"

>>61203259
You know... tape storage still does exist.
Plus everyone looks at the cost when thinking about storage in enterprise.
It is difficult to even convince those fuckers to use flash-cache and shit like that.
In my workplace (large storage server manufacturers) we still don't have proper tools to imitate failures of SSDs with nvme (just a rough script we did on our own).