Windows 10 is perfectly fine now.

>>61182373 (You)

Why?

>>61182373
>it's better than Windows 7
Any arguments? Of course, not.

>>61182373
If you like telemetry, stay with Windows 10 and I'll stay with Windows 7. Okay?

>I still keep getting random Service Host: File History taking up my entire disc space for 10 seconds every now and then.
>Recent updates have made it so unplugging my audio interface blue screens.
Not better than 7 yet, and this is after shutting off a ton of services.

>>61182373
Has it solved the boot deprecation problem starting from Vista onwards where if you plug a shitload of USB devices cold boot can take triple or quadruple the boot time?

>>61182373
not yet. but next year it will probably be, after it gets that sandboxing feature.

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>>61182389
>>>61182373 (OP)
>I'll stay with Windows 7. Okay?

Have fun with your ransomware

>>61182574
I don't care. I can just install Windows 7 again using the ISO.

>>61182574
>Trusting Microsoft

>>61182389
They added telemetry to windows 7 ever since 2015.

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>>61182788
Stop with this stupid meme. Pic related is telemetry in Windows 7 and it's opt-in, disabled by default.

Meanwhile there is NO official way to turn off telemetry in 10.

>>61182865
>>61182855
too hard

better reinstall arch again

>>61182574
>MS17-010

>ENJOY YOUR BOTNET
>N
>J
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https://twitter.com/m8urnett/status/866353982217699328

>>61182865
>>61182855
>>61182865
You realize that when you do stuff like this, it just hurts the developers who put their blood, sweat, and tears into such a great operating system, right?

>>61182838
> Actually thinking that a button press would save from it

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>>61182838

>>61182373
>Windows 10 is perfectly fine now
Stop deluding yourself.

>>61183017
>"several people noted that I had set the Allow Telemetry policy incorrectly. Now this was just sloppiness on my part and totally my mistake, but..."

>>61182373
>Windows BOTNET*

/thread

>>61183085
0 (Security) doesn't mean off, it's just the lowest setting.

>>61183159
just like windows 7 always had basic "telemetry", which included appcrash reports, compatibility reports, update checks and licence checks

it's the same fucking shit, except now you actually know about it

>>61183137
if you were able to read you would see in the article that he corrected his mistake and it still sent data regardless of the setting. nt pajeet

>>61182373
>try excel 2013
>Have to wait for hotkeys help to finish their animation in order for my query to be finished
>Alt+O+S+O+N takes 5 fucking seconds to complete because of the animating cascade bullshit.
>only way to disable it is to disable all of the fucking animations on the entire fucking OS

>>61183173
No, it's not the same. Appcrash reports and shit are also optional in 7.

>>61183142
The western life is a Jewish BOTNET.

>>61182373
>Windows 10 is perfectly fine now.
>no proofs
Of course.
>Oh, and it's better than Windows 7.
Wow great argument fagtron you sure convinced me with those hot opinions.

W7 was the last "good" version of Windows and it didn't come with any buttnut unless you installed specific Windows Updates released during/after the W8 lifetime. It used to be my daily driver until I switched to GNU+Linux, and even now I prefer it to W10. If I have to dual boot a system with an x64 CPU, I'll definitely slap in W7. W10 is cancer and even the U.S. government is trying to get away from it by tempering with BSD-derived operating systems.

>>61183205
The day Win 10 dropped, I gave Mint a try. Liked it so much that I use it exclusively on all my PCs except for one old HP Slimline from 2005, which doesn't connect to the internet. I use that for importing custom ringtones to my iPhone.

>>61182373
Advertisement is NOT allowed
Fuck off, shill and take your crippled spyware backdoor OS with you

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>plug in a 2 GB USB drive
>see this
Yeah, it's great

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>>61182373
RIP Microsoft, having to hire shills like this

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jesus fuck.
this is no good.

>>61183272
I would rather go without a PC than deal with that.

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>>61183258
MAPPEN
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That's right my white friend, those Windows 7 machines haven't received the update. So that is why you get the virus.

Windows 10 is a great operating system we have designed. Upgrade is available for you. If you are on Windows 10 you will have no problem sir.

>>61183430
Actually, there are still problems such as spying...

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>>61182373
DO THE NEEDFUL AND UPDATE TO WINDOWS 10 SIR!!!!!!!!!!!

>>61182574
>says microsoft
jesus christ

>>61182855
>Clicking Accept without reading the EULA
FUCKING MADMAN

>>61183514
What a rebel.

>>61182373
Thanks for the update, Microsoft, guess I'll switch!

>>61183159
"Disabled" still means off...

This is 98 vs XP all over again....

>>61183791
No it doesn't, read the fucking description.

>>61183854
Except that was never really an argument. From a security standpoint, 98 until SP2. If you're not connected to the internet, XP no matter what.

>>61182373
>Please take control over "my" """"personal"""" computer MS overlords
No thanks pajeet.

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>>61183791

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>>61183791
That's right pakshit

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>>61183791
>>61183791

>Windows 10 is perfectly fine now

LIAR

>Oh, and it's better than Windows 7

YOU FUCKING LIE

>>61183933
You know what I find atrocious is it says you can ""disable"" it in the settings. Why have that there? It's literally being dishonest to the user.

Windows is adware now, it really is. I mean what else keeps doing it even if you pick the option not to? ADWARE

A D W A R E
D
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>>61182373
>Oh, and it's better than Windows 7.
It always has been. But that won't make me use a malwareOS. GNU > Windows.

Nah homeskillet it's certified garbage I run it on my games box for muh graphics but it's certainly not something I'd do anything important on or use for pleasure.

>>61183973
>It's literally being dishonest to the user.
You really think a large corporation would just lie to their users? Wew lad.

W10 is everything I hate with where technology is headed

still get free porn. dont care lol.

>>61184141
I know you're trolling, but that mindset actually disgusts me.

>>61183268
this

>>61182838
You do know there’s a difference between the telemetry updates they started to push out right before Windows 10 came out and that setting you’re showing off right?

>>61184200
WHAT'S THE MATTER FAGGOT WOMAN OR MUSLIM LMAOLL

>>61184246
Do you?
http://www.computerworld.com/article/2981947/microsoft-windows/the-truth-about-windows-7-and-81-spy-patches-kb-3068708-3022345-3075249-and-3080149.html

>>61183933
this is really the basis for class action

i noticed that when i disabled my RT tablet's wireless function it would still acquire several GBs of "update" info over a day

fuck microsoft in the ass; i'm glad to have an obscure windows 7 installer with a crack to every version

>>61183459
You have no idea how much the phrase "do the needful" posses me off

>>61182373
i agree. it's a well balanced os that even runs good on older hardware.

>>61184328
That article does not dispute anything. It just says its “optional” updates. Even though Microsoft has put these telemetry updates in recommended patches either way. The author even says he can’t confirm it doesn’t collect anything.

L T S B
T
S
B

>>61183272
>there are people out there who seriously believe in this

>>61184381
>>61183933
Fuuuuuck

Is this even remotely legal? The EU is gonna have a field day with this, another 10-11 digit fine incoming

>>61183952
built in search is integrated with Store and bing, show us something new that might actually threaten my privacy oh wait you fucking can't just like dozens of those shitty clickbait journalism sites can't because you are all retards who don't know any better

there are legit reasons to dislike windows10, but "le spying botnet" /g/ kool-aid isnt one of them.

>>61183933
>Allow telemetry : Disabled
retarded nucuck-male imbecile didn't read the policy description, stating you have to "ENABLE" the policy and pick the appropriate setting

>>61182373
>better than windows 7

HAHAH, fuck you, fucking shill. last night, I tried to change the taskbar icons to not group and hide text and I got a literal fucking bluescreen at the exact same moment I changed the setting from the dropdown menu. 30 minutes later, I was playing some shitty videogame and got booted off because of an update (system literally rebooted itself with no option to cancel). I got so fucking mad I smashed my Win 7 USB in and reformatted all of my drives (even the ones without the OS present, just to be sure) and went back to 7. installed updates the important updates, turned them off and am as happy as ever with my fresh install of 7.

I almost had enough when I tried to install a torrent client and a big popup told me NAH BRO INSTALL IT FROM THE STORE LMOA!!, but this was too much.

FUCK windows 10 and FUCK microsoft, if I ever have to switch from 7 im going Linux.

>>61182387
1. Fast and More secure : Windows 10 starts up 28% more quickly than Windows 7, resumes faster and comes with more security features than ever.
Also better for gaming, better for upcoming drivers. Windows 7 is 8 years old its tired....

a list of what ACTUALLY gets collected on "Basic" telemetry setting:
>Your BIOS manufacturer, date, and version
>Which IE version you are running
>Whether you have cameras in the computer, and their resolution
>Whether the computer is capable of using and has enabled Bitlocker encryption
>The OEM manufacturer name, computer model number, model name, and edition
>The computer OEM serial number
>Whether the computer/phone is capable of voice calls
>The number of active mics in the device
>The SoC firmware manufacturer (I assume for phones)
>If you are on a cellular network, your operator, network type and region, and your unique identifiers (IMEI/MEID)
>Your OS type, version, time zone, and product key
>Your current location (GeoID)

>>61184904
this is false, Win 7 starts 5 seconds faster for me. tried and tested.

>>61184803
The EU will love it, they'll get info straight from Microsoft on who's viewing and creating wrong-think

if you want a more extensive overview on telemetry

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/configure-windows-telemetry-in-your-organization

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/basic-level-windows-diagnostic-events-and-fields

https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/windows-diagnostic-data

The main benefit for Windows 10 for gamers is DX12, which an increasing amount of games are starting to use (like Battlefield 1). It's up to you if it's worth the cost.

Along with all the other replies here there is absolutely no reason to stay with Windows 7. Especially since it'll stop being supported except for enterprise applications.

>>61184973
Windows 7 will be supported until 2020

>>61182574
False, all windows version were affected more or less equally. Most infections were on windows 7 because it has the largest market share.

>>61184905
Tell me what is wrong with any of that

>>61184957
How many games use DX12?

>>61184957
>>61185057
and Vulkan >>> DX12

>>61185044
it doesn't match the "M$ WANTS ALL UR DATA" bogeyman that 50% of /g/ wants so hardly to be true

>>61185044
The fact that it's collected.

>>61185071
It literally does though. Can you not read?

>>61185085
it's nowhere as dramatic and mouthfoam-inducing as this clickbait
>>61183272

>>61185110
Ok, so you really can not read then.

>>61185127
i posted it
tell me where should i look to get mad?

kill president, nuclear weapon, jihad coronavirus hantavirus c4 3nitroglicerine weapon of mass distruction ricin fertilizer bomb amonium nitrate mustard SARS MRSA streptococcus pneumonae , niesseria meningitidis vice premier death suicide bombing shrapnel bomb, deep web dark web tor

>>61185142
>Your BIOS manufacturer, date, and version
>Which IE version you are running
>Whether you have cameras in the computer, and their resolution
>Whether the computer is capable of using and has enabled Bitlocker encryption
>The OEM manufacturer name, computer model number, model name, and edition
>The computer OEM serial number
>Whether the computer/phone is capable of voice calls
>The number of active mics in the device
>The SoC firmware manufacturer (I assume for phones)
>If you are on a cellular network, your operator, network type and region, and your unique identifiers (IMEI/MEID)
>Your OS type, version, time zone, and product key
>Your current location (GeoID)

>>61184830
>show us something new that might actually threaten my privacy
Don't worry, I got you senpai.
>built in search is integrated with Store and bing

>>61185057
Enough for people to care
https://www.neowin.net/news/windows-10-user-base-on-steam-climbs-to-all-time-high-of-5123
>Windows 10 user base on Steam climbs to all-time high of 51.23%

>>61185175
>Source: 4chan.org

>>61184904
Wow, I can't believe I could boot my computer in 5 seconds instead of 6 every 3-4 weeks when I do it. I'm gonna go ahead and install Windows 10 now along with its 47 background services and bloated app subsystem because the kernel hibernates a few things instead of doing a cold boot.

>>61185184
Correlation, causation, etc.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support

>>61184904
>More secure
kek, this is what winshills actually believe

>>61185217
Technically speaking, it does come with a more up to date version of Windows Defender and automatic """security""" updates you can't turn off. Also malware specifically targeting Win 7/8 since they're a lot more established.

>>61185217
That's what /g/ want to believe actually.
An updated OS always more secure than it's predecessor and that's the case with windows 10. Add to that Windows 7 being the biggest OS right make it evenmore exposed to ransomware than Windows 10 and it's not secured.

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>>61185180
it's like you never used windows OS before
>built-in shit is shit!
>literally thousands of alternative software written throughout the last 20 years available
just use Everything and/or Classic shell

>>61185192
the source is >>61184940

>>61185175
literally every OS collects the same amount ( unless its linux distro, where your data isn't used for user experience improvements, but rather is just being sold to amazon/china.

also random programs and your web browser collect half of that at least.

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>>61185211
It's coming http://wccftech.com/microsoft-trademarks-direct-physics-dx12/

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>>61183933

>>61185246
>forced updates out of control of the end user are secure
wew

>>61185272
>An updated OS always more secure than it's predecessor
Kek, let me guess, you use Arch?

>>61185292
>Gaming I Rumor

>>61185318
Ubuntu.
"Wew" "kek" """""""""let me guess""""""
Please leave underage.

>>61185287
>literally every OS
>unless its linux
really made me think

>the amazon meme
Is this still 2012?

>>61185330
Why did they trademarked "Direct Physics" then?

>>61185318
>forced updates out of control of the end user are secure
They are only truly forced on the Home edition and that's a good thing.
You can't trust normies.

>>61185331
>Please leave underage.
Are you pretending to be an adult? Adorable.

>>61185347
I'm 12 and more mature than you at least.

>>61185342
>Forced updates are a good thing ever
pajeet pls

>>61185287
>literally every OS collects the same amount
not even every windows version does

>>61185360
If you don't like them install Pro/Enterprise and disable them.
That's a stupid thing to do though.

>>61185318
They're also fucking irrelevant to begin with, 98% of Windows security updates pertain to obscure garbage like using Microsoft Journal to import an XPS document from an Exchange server and send it to a networked printer while your timezone is set to Uganda.

>>61182387
it IS faster. a lot of it has to do with the dumping of the monstruosity that is .net 3.5 and a lighter windows updates (but that may simply be because it doesn't have 8 years worth of updates to check and build a dependency tree every time)

if you can get past the ugliness ("muh flat memes") and the advertisement/spying/telemetry, I guess it is somewhat better

LTSB is okay. at least last year i could run wireshark and see nothing as i used it. anything enterprise and below is out of simple control.

>>61185369
>reading up on updates you install to make sure they are relevant and don't introduce additional bugs or security vulnerabilities instead of blindly installing them is a stupid thing to do

What. Also, not even Enterprise will help you, they're doing them in rollups now that you have to install at once.

>>61185369
>That's a stupid thing to do though.
I agree, running windows 10 on a computer is always a stupid thing to do. Unless you hate freedom.

>>61185356
>No you! You big meanie.
I rest my case.

>>61185383
It's still a bloated pile of shit by default though, and I can't get over the fact that the start menu and the control panel are basically glorified Node.js apps.

>>61185378
It's not faster in any way, except for some games (it's also slower in other games). And you can dump .Net 3.5 in 7 as well, you don't have to use it.

>>61185378
>it IS faster
lolwat? I never heard this meme before.

>>61185416
Same>>61185331.

>>61185451
Didn't you know that using a newer version of an operating system automatically overclocks your hardware and triples your RAM speed?

>>61185455
Same>>61185347

>>61185498
>>61185455

>>61185527
>>61185498

>>61185527
>>61185559

>>61183085
>only available on enterprise editions
this is the maximumest of keks

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>>61185572

>>61183085
>2015 picture of the literal beta of windows 10
kill yourself fucking please

>>61184931
Your computer takes more than 5 second to start?

I haven't had a single issue with Windows 10. Updates work perfectly, including drivers, everything feels fast and snappy, boot time is neglible, the search works great, and the new task view and virtual desktops make it literally perfect. Either I'm extremely lucky or you guys are too dumb to operate a computer.

>>61186398
Thanks for your input pajeet, 2 rupees have been deposited into your account.

>>61186345
For cold boot sure, even your computer does. Resuming from sleep or hibernation is different and it shouldn't be compared to cold boot.

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>>61184905
>>Your current location (GeoID)
NOPE
NOPENOPENOPENOPENOPENOPE
FUCK THAT

AND FUCK YOU FOR SAYING IT SO CASUALLY

>>61186520
Depending on what motherboard you have, simply POSTing and getting to the point where it even loads something from a hard drive can take 5 seconds.

>>61186519
>i couldn't figure out how to use windows 10 so i'll just call him a pajeet

No because it still forces DWM and thus vsync in windowed fullscreen.

I don't understand why it does. Better yet I'm surprised nobody has developed a workaround. I'm gonna dualboot win7 now.

>>61186398
Same on my laptop.

>>61186572
>implying i would ever willingly install a literal botnet on any machine
You must be new here.

>>61186566
>le hackerman

>>61186586
You replied to that post so you were obviously offended by the last sentence.

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POO IN THE LOO software "engineering"

>>61186609
You replied to my post so you were obviously offended by it.

>>61186625
So we're in agreement?
I'm offended because you called the other anon a pajeet and you're offended because you're too dumb to operate a computer.

>>61186644
No, I'm pointing out your stupidity, however it clearly didn't work. Oh well.

>>61186588
Fuck you, there's absolutely no reason for them to collect my geo data, the fuck are they doing with it?

>>61186747
Just keeping tabs on you, nothing to hide nothing to fear anon.

>>61186747
i hope you use TAILS :^)

>>61186718
No I completely agree with you. It's very stupid to be offended when someone else is being called a pajeet.
Being unable to figure out windows is also a sign of stupidity.

>>61186747
>what is an ip address

>>61182613
>He can afford to reinstall an OS anytime
Do you just browse facebook for a living?

>>61186765
Like I said, it clearly didn't work. Logic must be hard for you.

>>61186763
Goddamn right i do.

>>61186776
paid VPN, dnscrypt and webRTC spoofing

>>61186566
Never happened to me on Windows but happened me on Chrome browser (wanting to localize me)

>>61186802
Well then they can't get your location, can they?

>>61186811
Windows just didn't tell you about it. Wtf are people like you even doing on /g/?

>>61186792
Not as hard as operating windows is for you apparently.

>>61186848
It is impossible, since it isn't installed on any of my machines... You're not very observant are you?

>>61186861
Well yes, that makes it quite obvious that you were unable to figure it out.

>>61186837
I checked it several times and i have not such a thing as >>61186618 taking 35%

>>61186787
>He pays for operating systems
Do you use 4chan at all!

>>61186887
>I choose not to install a botnet on my machine
>HAHAHA YOU CAN'T EVEN INTO BOTNET!!! 2intricate4you perhaps XDD?
Great point pajeet. Those rupees must be adding up.

>>61186887
Translation: I was unable to figure out how to stop Windows 10 from installing itself.

>>61186940
Denial is unhealthy. The sooner you understand that the better.

>>61182373
Still pissed it took them like 4 years to resolve the OS updating and restarting overnight even when I had scripts running

>>61186917
>implying afford==paying
I'm talking about affording to waste time, you fuckin neet.

>>61187044
How they will fuck it up with the Fall creator update?

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>>61187161
Well apparently you can afford to waste time on an operating system with no error codes. Good luck solving problems with no clues.

>>61182373

Name one thing that is objectively, literally superior in windows 10 to windows 7.

UI or similar is subjective.

>>61187242
one >>61184957
two >>61184973
three >>61184904
etc

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fresh installed LTSB 2016 yesterday for the first time outside of VMs

It's the least shitty version of 10, but it's still shitty.

>>61187279
Wow, it's fucking nothing.

>>61182387
>faster
>more secure
>looks better
>actually from this decade

>>61187242
Task manager is a lot better.
Copy/move operations will first complete everything that can be completed without user input (e.g. overwriting)
Compared to stopping for every file which might mean that a long operation will pause half-way while you're away.
It can natively run linux applications.
Window decorations aren't ugly and don't have rounded corners.

win 7 user here, the only thing I am interested in 10 is this:

did microsoft finally fucking add confirmation windows for copying, pasting, moving files, and also show exactly what the undo function will do? currently it's just for example "undo delete" and when you press it, who the fuck knows what it just undeleted, who remembers that shit

>>61182373
(You)
Saged

>>61187331
>Task manager is a lot better.
Don't see this affecting my life whatsoever
>Copy/move operations will first complete everything that can be completed without user input (e.g. overwriting)
Decent, might help out once a year
>Window decorations aren't ugly and don't have rounded corners.
For my job every monitor I have has a fullscreen application on it so does not affect me at all again

Not worth the time and risk switching to 10 for these super minor things

>>61187404
>conveniently ignored the biggest advantage

>>61187308
>>>61182387
>>faster
no
>>more secure
top kek
>>looks better
no
>>actually from this decade
like most cancer in the modern day

>>61187308
>>61187445
>the arguments from both sides are supported by multiple valid sources
Help me, I don't know what to believe anymore.

>>61187445
What are you, a shill?

8.1:

Is more stable
It's finished, meaning you are not beta testing the system
Has nicer looks
Is faster
It's still supported despite its obscurity, and will be for more years than Windows 7
Can restore the old explorer back without any trouble
Can tinker with system files without much trouble either
Has a simple way of accessing the superior control panel, even though it has some secondary settings panel
Pretty much every decent feature from 10 that's not available on 7 is available on 8.1

>>61187445
You really showed me anon!!
BRB unistalling Windows 10E right now!

>>61187478
You can safely ignore anyone who posts vague meaningless shit like "faster". "Smoother" is another one that got posted a lot by pajeet shills.

Objectively speaking there is very very little difference in terms of performance. An OS will usually leave the CPU/GPU/drives to do their job, so performance isn't affected.

So you have to decide based on UI changes (it has pros and cons there) and on other aspects (bundled ads, telemetry, less control over updates, bugs...).

>>61182865
Why should I trust that Microsoft Toolkit does not send your data to greedy Jews? Or installs other type of malicious software for that matter?

>>61185085
Oh no Microsoft knows I have a microphone and my BIOS manufacturer what ever shall I do

>>61187602
>bundled ads
Toggle.
>telemetry
Several toggles.
>less control over updates
I install them anyway. Despite what /g/ thinks you can tell it to not reboot automatically.
>bugs
"vague"

>everything other than Settings looks better
>from the current decade
>runs both windows and linux applications

Definitely a hard choice.

>>61185365
they all collect the same amount

the difference is that now you know about it, thanks to all the attentionwhoring articles written for the sole purpose of generating clicks

motherfuckers posted FAKE screenshots of win10 uploading data to microsoft, what else do you need to fucking know.

>>61187703
>Leave microsoft alone!!!

>>61187713
>>bugs
>"vague"
Overall 10 has been significantly buggier so far, every major update has had at least a few glitches.
If you deny this you're just being dishonest.

>>61187850
I don't really know of any that affected me.

>>61187756
>they all collect the same amount
kek, this is what microcucks tell themselves to feel better about giving away control to the botnet.

>>61187713
>toggle
>If you turn off relevant ads, the number of ads you see won't change, but they may be less relevant to you.

>Several toggles
>That do absolutely fuck all

>I install them anyway. Despite what /g/ thinks you can tell it to not reboot automatically.
How about choosing which updates you want / choosing not to update at all, instead of delaying the inevitable

>"vague"
Everytime, every single time they decide "hey let's make a new big update that brings some new features" they manage to create new shit to worry about. At least this didn't happen so often with Windows 7 / 8.1. In those, in most cases updates meant fixes, not "the ability to paint turds on 3D and show ads on the goddamn calculator"

And yes it is vague, because it's completely fucking unpredictable shit. Still after all these years I still get this thing where clicking on the start button just works sometimes, not always. Maybe I'll open the start menu for you, maybe I won't. Who knows!

>everything other than Settings looks better
>from the current decade
Paint confirmed for the current professional graphic design tool of this decade apparently

Seriously though we get the flat meme but it's done quite terribly on Windows 10. They haven't even fixed the fucking font rendering. Apple doesn't move away from their own design, Google attempts to make everything a bit more cohesive and consistent, meanwhile Microsoft is like "hmm, maybe next update we'll put a different set of icons! maybe this one will have this windows 7 effect! what about this apple thing too? we'll just throw everything in who cares"

>runs both windows and linux applications
Call me when the only thing that I see on Windows 10 that's "windows" is the third party software

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if microsoft actually collected sensitive data like your porn folders and whatnot, we would have thousands of articles with breakdowns and real examples of files being sent, like, hey, look, here is a picture of your gay asshole flying out right into microsoft's database.

instead what we got are just words like "yea its totally spying on you, here is a link to our partner site that says exactly the same thing with a link to another site that says same shit based on a twitter of some fagget who retweeted a twit of someone who said win10 spies on you based on a video from a techpreview version using microsoft insider account and using bing search which, OH MY GOD, sends some bits of data to microsoft server, JESUS THIS IS TOTALLY UNACCEPTABLE, IM GOING OT INSTAL GENTOO RIGHT THIS MOMENT WHERE IS THE YOUTUBE GUIDE

where are my tech savvy computer enthusiasts at. All i can see here are codemonkeys and normies
fuck you all, cretins

>>61187235
Never had an issue that didn't solve itself, then again I didn't fuck with any registry settings.

>>61188034
>ignores all the proof
>it's just words man
pajeet pls, you're not even trying anymore

>>61188034
What you just said doesn't make much sense.

First off, why the fuck would you think that, except for very sensitive illegal material, they would give two fucks?

Second, why would they even reveal this to the public by publishing these thousands of articles? Why would media outlets try this shit? Remember the whole FBI vs Apple nonsense? That was proven fake left and right. Mainstream media won't bother with this to ruin Microsoft's reputation.

If you're so tech savvy why haven't you utilized wireshark extensively to see what's going on? You don't need news sites, bloggers or anons to tell you.

>>61188023
>If you turn off relevant ads, the number of ads you see won't change, but they may be less relevant to you.
Wrong toggle.
gpedit > User Configuration > Windows Components > Cloud Content > Turn off all Windows spotlight features

>That do absolutely fuck all
Well that's hard to argue with since you don't have anything to back it up with but
https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services

>How about choosing which updates you want / choosing not to update at all, instead of delaying the inevitable
I didn't encounter a situation where I'd want to do anything other than installing all currently available updates at whichever time I find convenient.

>vague bugs
I didn't encounter any that caused me issues.

>flat meme
Honestly all I care about is one pixel window borders and blank titlebars.

>Call me when the only thing that I see on Windows 10 that's "windows" is the third party software
I'm not sure if I understand what you mean but all of my three screens are currently completely filled with third party software and if it weren't for the scrollbars and window decorations you wouldn't be able to tell it's Windows.
I use Windows not because it's Windows but because of the software it supports.

Did they relelase an update? Or is this just bait

>>61188263
No, FALL 2018

>>61188298
2017*

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>>61182373

>>61188099
what proof
there is 0 proof in this thread

bing and store are hardcoded into start search menu
anything else?

>>61188207
because i have no reason to not trust an operating system i have used for the last 25 years

i saw the wireshark webm, see >>61188380

>>61187537
deprecated garbage

you can't write uwp apps on it

>>61188403
You don't see the wireshark webm, you run wireshark. No reason not to. If it's so good, there shouldn't be a problem with checking, right?

Besides, no reason to distrust Windows in 25 years? the fuck?

>>61188488
i don't have it installed

the burden of proof is on whoever makes retarded claims anyway

>>61188467
Why in the hell would you use uwp apps in the first place

>>61188528
because not all uwp apps are candy crush and bing weather

>>61188543
Oh yeah sorry, I forgot about that RAR opener

Uh, no thanks. I'll stick with Win 7 for my client pcs and Server 2008R2 for my server os cause they all just work man.

>>61188598
until when, that's the question.

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>>61188588

>>61187622
You can run it offline retard

>>61187622
you shouldn't
pay up, goy

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>>61182373
>Oh, and it's better than Windows 7.

>>61189066
What the hell

>>61185294
"A VALUE OF 0 WILL STILL SEND A MINIMAL AMOUNT OF DATA TO MICROSOFT"

i.e. there is NO turning it off whatsoever

>>61189167
you must be new

>>61189370
you can't turn off licence checks and "+1 windows user", you fucking dumb piece of shit
just fucking hang yourself, stupid morron, can you even breathe on your own without wikihow telling you how to, retarded imbecile, fuck

>>61189370
Read up on what is actually sends. It's fucking nothing.

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PAJEETS AND PC GAMING AUTISTS WILL DEFEND THIS

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windows 10 is hot garbage

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>>61190196
store is great
fox and grapes
>>61190233
nu-/g/ babby can't handle UI transitions
his first OS was probably win7

>>61190233
Looks like it got easier to me.

>>61190260
>fox and grapes

how does that even apply? Windows was the last OS to implement a store/software center and no surprise it's the worst. Ubuntu has had the software center since 2009, and it's way better than the windows store.

windows 10 is smaller install
7 is like 25 gigs
10 is like 15 gigs

>>61190374
the problem is the both exist at the same time, and split up functions between them for no reason. If they moved all the Control Panel's functions to the settings menu, I wouldn't be upset. It's just bullshit and makes no sense why they would split up control over your system into two completely different areas

>>61190260
>Bing

lol

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Fall 2017 update is going to track your GPU performance:

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>>61190388
>7 is like 25 gigs

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>>61190386
linux "software" center is a joke
>wow i can install screenfetch, htop and gimp
meanwhile on windows, Store is an addition, not an alternative, if a program isnt in Store i can still download it the regular way, unlike in your shitty linux distros where this will just break your system in half

>>61190432
you jelly i get to look at pretty pictures handpicked by Bing Team every day i start my PC?

>>61190414
>for no reason
another fucking imbecile
kys

>>61182855
>Not pirating Enterprise LTSB

>>61184872
>literal bluescreen
sounds like your motherboard's dying mate

>>61190680
>Enterprise LTSB
never heard of it

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>>61190680
>enterprise LTSB
what a waste
just get a regular enterprise

Literally cannot disable spying, shit is hardcoded in the DLLs, the options to disable it are just placebo

>>61190260
>long tailed tits
Too cute! BRB going to /an/

>>61183031
they also put their poo in the loo

I honestly don't mind Windows 10 from a technical perspective. They've been improving the UI and window management features, and for the most part it's faster and more stable than 7.
What's unacceptable is that the OS acts like it knows what's best for me, nagging me to use Edge, disallowing me from opting out of data collection, transmitting data to and from remote servers without my consent. I don't think I'll ever use it, and with how much Wine is improving, I may never have to.

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>>61182865
>100s of millions of people got win 10 for free legally
>autistic anon has to resort to piracy because he was too retarded to get it for free in the first year

>>61192837
You didn't get Enterprise for free though.

>>61186618
i get thos all the time

>>61193523
No useful features on enterprise.

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>>61190233

>>61193585
Except supposed 'real privacy'

>>61193618
Already got that on pro.

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>>61193630

>>61192806
That's because Windows is made to appeal to the broadest audience, which includes normies.

And normies are slaves, so that's how Microsoft treats them.

If you're a /g/tard you should be able to tweak Windows to get a grip on it., if you really need it.

>>61182373
i cant believe this weak attempt of shilling and bait got 240 replies, people here are just plain retarded

>>61193654
Damn u mad people know how to fix Window 10's only crux?

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>>61193695
>fix Window 10

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>>61193732
>he can't fix windows 10

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>>61193756
>he thinks it can be fixed

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>>61193682
Also it's 2017, nobody gives a shit which OS you use. Like nobody. Most normies use just a phone anyway.

They ignore desktops completely. So really, you're like fighting a war from the 2000s.

Microsoft gets most of its revenue from cross-platform software these days (Office on all platforms, Azure, other enterprise shit). Desktop OS licenses only bring about 9% of their revenue, less than Xbox.

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>>61193765
>he thinks because it's too hard for him no one can

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What to do about acquiring free copy of Windows 10?

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>>61193776
>if I click this button it stops spying on me, microsoft says so

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>>61193809
>being too stupid to know how to click a button

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>>61193853
>the button doesn't work, but you too stoopid!

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>>61193904
>I can't figure out how to click the button so I'll just tell everyone the button and hope they all believe me

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>>61193941
>I'll just tell everyone the button and hope they all believe me

>>61183031
>imblying they dont make money off of datamining you anyways

>>61190147
wintard triggered

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>>61193608

>>61182373
IF I SEE THAT PLAIN WHITE LOGO WITH SHADOW OFF TO THE RIGHT BULLSHIT ONE MORE TIME I'LL SHOOT UP A FUCKING CHURCH

>>61182373
Is there a better pirate, crack, and debloat than what came out the first release?

Realized my Xbox one controllers wont register properly with 7 but will with my 10 laptop.

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I hope you losers realize you're missing out on the best gaming experience. It can only be found on Windows 10.

>>61190233
>>61193608
I don't see why preserving backwards compatibility is a bad thing, and it's not like it's even anything new to Windows. Every version has about 4 different features that do the exact same thing that are just holdovers from various old versions of Windows. Windows literally still shipped with the program manager from 3.x until Vista, for example. I guarantee if they removed the old features you'd be bitching about how they changed everything and broke your software instead.

>>61182389
Windows has been botnet (moreso than normal for a proprietary OS) ever since Vista, friend. You are sacrificing just as much privacy using 7 as you would be using 8 or 10, the only difference is your OS is almost 10 years old and is almost abandonware.

>>61182838
Can you show me where in the source code it actually honors the user's choice in this dialog? No? Then don't try and claim it does.

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>>61197141
>NT 6.0 is when botnetting started
What is _NSAKEY?

>>61197214
See "moreso than normal for a proprietary OS"
Windows has always been botnet but they really started ramping it up around Vista

>>61182373
It's the same spying, forced-updates bullshit as at launch, anon. Saying it's better than W8 is complete crap as an argument, given that W10 doesn't manage to correct back to W7.

>>61197141
>You are sacrificing just as much privacy using 7 as you would be using 8 or 10
False equivalency lies. Nice try M$

>>61196789
>actually using Windows Store trash

>>61197265
>False equivalency lies.
Do you know what that means? They are literally the same.

>Nice try M$
Yes, clearly in my post labeling every Windows operating system as privacy-invading malware I was suggesting you should install Windows 10. I was calling the Wintards who argue amongst each other as if any of them are less a part of the botnet than the other idiots. Get some reading comprehension skills.

>>61197214
What is this loli?

>>61182373
Just installed this on a t520, and my battery says plugged in, not charging. It's a genuine battery, and I've tried all the shit I can google. Who wants to be my tech support? My other SSD has xubuntu, if there is no fix I'll switch back...

>>61182373
low quality troll. 1/1,073,741,824

>>61184003
Yes.

Suggest the best OS for gaymen. From the thread I think many are saying 10 but what's the best version of Win 7 (to pirate)

>>61182387
Better power management (+ features like battery saver)
MUCH better memory management
New, better task manager
Less HDD use (~5GB after fresh install and disabled hiberfile)
More secure (WinRT sandbox)
Better scaling
Full control over comm devices, no need to install 3rd party trash to do simple things like enabling or disabling wwan networking
DX12
No need for external antivirus, literally best antivirus solution on the market
Better support for eGPUs
Much, much more.

I miss the sound packs that came with Win7

w10 is shit

>>61199622
just like your waifu

Well if that's true tell me how to solve my dpi scaling problem in legacy apps while in 4K mode without setting it up in every fucking app.

>better
And I just yesterday witnessed a streamer having performance issues everywhere as he had just recently update to Creators Update.

>>61199319
>Better power management (+ features like battery saver)
Like you have a choice on laptops. You will have literally no drivers if you jump to 7 on a 10 laptop
>MUCH better memory management
Windows has a smaller and smaller memory footprint the further back you go. Memory management is irrelevant when you use half the memory of your replacement.
>New, better task manager
It is amazing how useful telling the user where the program is located is.
>Less HDD use (~5GB after fresh install and disabled hiberfile)
Yeah, 7 is stupid huge at ~20 gigs but storage is stupid cheap too.
>More secure (WinRT sandbox)
Windows? Secure?
>Better scaling
Still garbage without third party interaction.
>Full control over comm devices, no need to install 3rd party trash to do simple things like enabling or disabling wwan networking
The compatibility is a gift and a curse as it BSODs installing a driver you didn't want it to.
>DX12
Yeah, that's coming along but Source Engine is still DX9. So your two biggest games on PC DotA 2 and CS:GO still use only DX9.
>No need for external antivirus, literally best antivirus solution on the market
An ad blocker is still your best antivirus since XP.
>Better support for eGPUs
Literal what, like I don't even care to google.
>Much, much more.
Ayyy

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>>61182373

>>61182373
But linux lets me use my computer while it's updating.
I can even hard shut it down while it's updating and it won't fry.

Biggest pile of shit out of Redmond since Windows 98.

>>61197152
>le freedum meme
When was the last time you went through all of the shitty GNU C code to make sure RedHat didnt add anything nasty? Also, if you use a web browser youre already fucked.

>>61182373
It's not even the telemetry that bothers me, it's the godawful UI
Why the fuck do I need to go into an inconspicuous "power menu" just to turn off my PC? Why the fuck do they keep insisting I play Candy Crush?

>>61182373
Why do you care? Let them remain on Windows 7 with disabled system updates. They are so paranoid by security updates from Microsoft that they become the low hanging fruit for hackers and malicious software.

>>61182373
Yes, it is better and most likely fine.

However, the fact that you simply cannot opt out of many of its online functions is unacceptable.

Its like your car going to the shop at night completely on its on and theres nothing you can do about. Yes, in order to operate a car legally you need to take it to the shop and to registration at some point, but that still remains YOUR decision, unlike with windows.

>>61182373
I sincerely doubt this. I am honestly considering a switch from Windows 10 to Windows 7. The only downside is that Windows 7 loses support in 2020 and that isn't that far away. I would be better off switching to Windows 8.1.

>>61201779
>steven spielberg's STRAWS, the post

>>61182574
The vulnerability had been patched in March. The reason those computers were infected was not because of Windows 7 but because these were enterprise computers that were never updated.

Furthermore: even if it were true that Windows 10 was inherently more secure than Windows 7, it is Microsoft's responsibility to secure all their supported operating systems. It has never been in Microsoft's interests to allow a botnet fester on systems running their operating system.

TLDR Kill yourself

>>61182373
> 10 rupees have been deposited in your loo

>>61199319
/thread

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>>61182373

>>61184904
>Windows 10 starts up 28% more quickly than Windows 7
So 3 seconds instead of 4 on my ssd? Interesting!

>>61187756
>posted FAKE screenshots of win10 uploading data to microsoft
I can confirm this with wireshark and even simpler stuff like tcpview.
My W7 machine never connects to somewhere if I leave it running for hours on end alone.
My W10 machine connects every fucking second to the ms servers right after booting without me doing anything. These aren't updates, it sends filenames. Source: wireshark. Just fucking install, start it and just see it. You do not even have to wait longer than 5 seconds you fucking mongoloid.
If you have seen enough connection-spam you can stop and look more into what has been sent. Half of the traffic isn't even encrypted.
Why should be post videos/webms about it? We had that and not many believed it. The only people that start to believe it is if they can see it for themself on their machines and fucking wireshark is the simplest solution.