/wt/ watch thread

Good news - ninefag is ded

>>61181098
who?

>>61181108
4Chain hacker

>>61181133
oh ok

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Friendly reminder that Seiko is > Swiss Shit

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>>61181160
Oh sweetie.

>>61181179
hairles fag

>>61181179
It looks like something Batman would wear.

>>61176397
>Try taking that to a Watch shop.
why would he ever have to take an orient tristar to a watch shop?
to get it fixed?
not even
wear them for 30 years and let them die

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Should i cop? $30 nzd

>>61181140
:3

>>61181715
meh, you can just get a new casio equivalent for less.

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champagne dials are gauche

>>61182375
Is that yours?

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>>61181028
What chink watch is best?
I am complete newfag and thinking about getting a watch. Just dont want to spend much money on it, because I am a greedy fuck and dont even know if I'd wear it

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>>61181176
Oh no, what ever will Swiss fags do?!

>>61182464
No, but this will be my next watch purchase.

>>61182585
31mm, of course. Fuck the manhole cover trend.

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>>61182560
Probably buy used like a non-retarded person.

Now shoo shoo, back to your pedophile cartoons and Grand Seiko 5 collecting.

>>61182644
>want a luxury item for the way it is crafted and finished
>buy one that's already been scratched

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>>61182644
Oh my, oh me.
A Swiss fag pretending to buy high quality.

>>61182702
>"bullbars"
Disgusting; watch is fine otherwise

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>>61182625
>31mm two-tone gold rolex

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>>61182702
>them bitter shitter tears

>>61182625
I absolutely hate watches that small. Looks like a penny strapped to your wrist with a string.

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>tfw wrists are too small for a grown man's watch

https://youtu.be/bkwTVxdE23A

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>>61182808
comfort + stealth factor, plus I love the classicism.

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Should I paint over the red stripe on my windy knob?

I think it looks a little too flashy, what do you think?

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>>61182560
Holy shit a submariner was like 3grand in the early 2000s?

what fucking happened?

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>>61184177
Is that the breakfast nook in Trump's apartment?

i wonder what watch he wears

Clinton used to wear a Timex Ironman when he was POTUS. I had the same watch, it was pretty great for the time

>>61183708

wtf the omega fell apart floating around the ISS?

what a rugged tool watch

>>61183708
>>61184877
Number of Speedmasters that self destructed on the way to the fucking mooooooooon:

0

>>61182560
So inflation adjusted it's just a steady increase as build- and materials quality improves?

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>>61181098
Poor ninegag, he helped me rebuild an Atmos air clock from scratch one time

>>61184910
That's not what the chart says. The bottom line is the price of a submariner adjusted for inflation since the 50s.

The top price is the actual rise in price of a subby. Inflation has not doubled the price of consumer goods in the last 10 years buddy, basically the subby went from $4000 to $8000 recently for no reason, while inflation whet up 10-15%

>tfw a rolex was $800 in 1992

I wish nineball would post again

>>61185020
what happened

vanned?

>>61182560
> Something is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it

It's almost like that is standard economics at work. I'm shocked.

>>61185083
>missing the point and stating the obvious

the post

>>61184951
The reason is called Tudor.

>>61185121
Why did tudor double the price of a rolly?

>>61184860
Trump wears a shitty Trump brand watch

>>61185219
>Trump wears a shitty Trump brand watch
Christ I can't tell if you are joking or not but that sounds like something he would do.

have any pics of it? does he sell them?

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there is no god

>>61185247
I wish i was kidding but
>>61185327

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>>61184860
>>61185247

He wears pic related. He also has a Rolex President but I haven't seen him wear it since becoming POTUS.

He doesn't seem to be much into watches overall though.

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Leaving out anything about politics. Donald Trump may have the most tacky taste of any person currently alive on the planet earth.

Every President is allowed to redecorated the oval office to their taste; I honestly thought he was going to shit up the oval office and gold plate everything and make it look embarrassing. To his credit he did not do that and his oval office looks fine.

>>61185389
I don't like that look but it's not to gaudy or anything, it's pretty ok i guess

>>61185397

It's still on the National Register of Historic Places. There are going to be limits to how much you can fuck it up.

Curtains, carpets, and decorations can be great, but I don't think he can start having any carpentry done.

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>>61185424

Yeah they can do the carpet and lay out rugs, they can also change out the couches and (most famously) the desk. I think Obama used Kennedy's desk.

But imagine a gold fucking inlaid desk in trump style, gold framed couches with red velvet and a bunch of tacky statues and paintings. With reflective gold curtains.

They can change it up enough that there is a copy of Reagan's oval office in his library and it is pretty different

Imagine a POTUS desk and the rest of the furniture in the oval office in this kind of style, this is from his apt

>>61185521
I just want him to put a big, golden "T" on the front of the white house.

>>61185588
Seriously

The President has renovated the White House before.

https://www.whitehousehistory.org/collections/president-trumans-renovation

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>>61185389

>>61185810
Not what I would imagine him picking to wear

>>61185810
At least he have good taste in something.

>>61185897
He did not wear it during the campaign so I assume he got it some time after he won.

He wore a rectangular black dialed watch during the campaign. I think I had some pics but cannot find them now. Would probably have to sift through the billions of gettyimages photos of Trump to find a good shot of it.

>>61186003
>>61185984
>At least he have good taste in something.

I would at minimum thought he would wear a solid gold Rolex President or something like that

Some rich as fuck campaign donor he owes bigtime probably gave it to him as a present for winning and he feels he has to wear it

or maybe between that and the way he didn't shit up the oval office his wife or someone high up is really putting the pressure on him to tone it down with the gaudy stuff as it would turn off the regular joe people who voted for him

>>61186003
Oh nevermind he had it much earlier

https://www.deployant.com/spot-the-watch-future-potus-donald-trump-his-vacheron-constantin-on-election-night/

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I want a 1980s seiko diver 7548, but even the ones in nice condition have the lume all faded and worn out.

Can I get a relume job done to make the lume as good as on a new SKX?

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Obama wore a Jorg Gray 6500 Chronograph for the first 5 or so years

then he started wearing a fitbit lol

Are there any good, cheap watches by vostok, moscow classic, or luch? In addition, is the moscow classic champion any good?

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I wonder how much this shitter is worth

>>61186261
>Are there any good, cheap watches by vostok, moscow classic, or luch? In addition, is the moscow classic champion any good?

They are not good watches but they are cheap.

Name one quality mechanical product exported by Russsia....

Ok, are there any good for less than 100 dollars watch by vostok, moscow classic, or luch that look good?

>>61186331
>Ok, are there any good for less than 100 dollars watch by vostok, moscow classic, or luch that look good?

Looking good is a matter of opinion, if you are asking "are they as good as a sub 100 timex" the answer is fucking no, if you are asking "are they good enough that if I reset it every day I will kind of know what time it is" then yes they are good

just depends on what you mean

people like them for the novelty of them being from "forbidden" russia, not because they are good watches, if they were made in the USA they would go out of business

I just went and looked at all the watches of our former presidents, some of them were really tacky. Abe Lincoln's pocket watch was super classy though.

GWB wore a timex indiglow, LBJ wore a gold shitter with a bible verse on the dial

big range

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>>61181028
Where can I get a bagelsport and which one is the best? I missed this meme and I'm panicking

Are there any good sub 100 dollar watches that have a good casual aesthetic, with a non metal band?

>>61186484
They started up again I think. Saw some bagelsports on ebay like a month ago.

>>61186517
>Are there any good sub 100 dollar watches that have a good casual aesthetic, with a non metal band?

Yes there are many, do you want digital or analog, mechanical or quartz?

This watch will not need a battery change for 15-20 years, tells perfect time, gives the day and date and is rugged

https://www.jomashop.com/citizen-bm8180-03e.html

Can anyone post the watch infograph with the rising prices and according brands?

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Turtle

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>>61186449
Yeah, some gold shitter made by some guy named Patek. The gold shitters you're talking about are probably the Hamilton watches he had made with his initials and the golden rule printed on the dial, those were gifts for other people. Pic related is the one that was actually his.

>>61186872
>Patek
Kek, even patek make some ugly shit once in a while huh

>>61186872
The bible verse is what makes it a pretentious shitter, especially from an asshole like LBJ

There's an Omega f300 on watchuseek for $300 in case that anon who was chasing hummers is interested

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I asked this in the previous thread and didn't get much response. I'm looking for an acceptable quality and non-overpriced quartz watch, and have found myself completely lost in the abundance of bigger and smaller brands I had never heard of before, yet I don't feel like making a meme choice like SNK809.

Is there perhaps some extensive list of sub-200$ (preferably even sub-100$) watches/brands that use miyota or ronda movements (or other decent ones which I'm not yet aware of) somewhere?

I read this https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/inexpensive-watch-guide/
and thought "why not I just go and browse what's nice at Casio and Citizen for a poor man", and found the Citizen BM8180-03E, which is pretty close to my tastes design-wise and at the same time functionally appealing (solar, 100m, has date) and can be had cheap, Casio MTP-1303PL seems like an option too (too bad it only comes with obviously crap straps), and the Weekender Fairfield, and a few others. However, I'd love to have a look at what's good and nice from some lesser known brands, if I only knew where to look.

>>61187113
You're honestly going to be better off just buying a citizen or Casio than chasing some no-name Chinese microbrand casing Japanese quartz movements and applying no QC.

>>61187113
Just go to ebay and search for sub 200dollar miyota watches and pick one

not sure exactly what you want though

>>61181160
I WANT THIS WATCH
I'm gonna buy it and a green suit to go with it, fuck!

>>61185148
Because media drive the demand for Rolex up.

>>61186307
>Name one quality mechanical product exported by Russsia....
AUTOMATIV KALASHNINCOV 4OURTY 7EVEN

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>>61186983
Maybe he only cajoled and threatened and intimidated because that was what he wanted done to him?

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>>61187173
That sounds like a sensible choice, but I guess there must be something inbetween sitizen/casio and chinese microbrands. Is Zeppelin what you call a chinese microbrand? Some guy mentioned it in the old thread. I don't like Zeppelin's design, but I think it's an example of a brand which is not exactly micro chinse with no qc, amirite?

Just tried googling up what movement the weekenders have, some interwebs say it's chinese, but then there are Ronda movements in some Timex watches. So what's the truth? Do all Timex Weekenders have nothing but those chinese tjianwhatever movements?

>>61187237
>Just go to ebay and search for sub 200dollar miyota watches
Thanks, now I see what >>61187237 meant by chinese microbrands.
>Parnis
>Xezo
>Corgeut
Well, I certainly do not want any of those, as well as to dig through that immense pile of them to find anything less-chinese.
I found this cute thing though, pic related. Not gonna buy it, just saying that something nice can be found this way, but you have to dig through a huge crapload of crap, ech.

>what you want
I'll try to describe my aesthetic tastes a bit later.

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Whats the difference between a sarx033 and a SARY055

There are so many different seiko presage's why are they all different prices?

What is the most affordable mechanical chronograph which has a sub-dial which can record several hours? I know there are plenty of quartz watches that fit the bill, but I would like to have an automatic mechanical.

>>61187684
Maybe a Seiko 8r

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>>61187637
They look slightly different and presumably the SARX is higher quality. The SARX has a 6R movement which is an upgrade over the 4R in the SARY, and the SARX is Diashield treated. Seiko makes a shitload of watches and they're spread out across every possible price range. If you ever figure out the logic behind their pricing and their model names please let me know.

They also seem to be tightening up and making the 6R more expensive. You used to find it for like below 300 in the SARB watches, but now that gaijins have picked up on that watch and turned it into a meme the price has gone up and the 6R is appearing in more expensive models.

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>>61187963
also how does this make sense?

costs more used (bid) then new?

>>61187963
Isn't the only difference between the 4r and 6r the longer power reserve?

Other than that they are functionally identical. Maybe the 6r is held to a higher standard as far as accuracy, but there really isn't much of a difference in parts.

>>61188063
you have to remember ebay is not one store, it's a bunch of people selling shit.

some of those people are not good at setting prices

>>61188155
this is a bid that is happening its not a buy price and the watch is only 1 year old

the buy price is £255 NEW

the used 1 year old watch is £305 with 1 hour left on bidding (same model SARB033)

>>61188063
people get in bidding wars and stop thinking rationally and probably did not check around much for prices before they started bidding.

I always sell my things on ebay at a penny start with no reserve, people start bidding then feel like they have to "win" I have gotten some stupid prices on things.

I sold a 3 year old used macbook for $100 less than a brand new one with $50 shipping once

>>61188200
see:
>>61188214

>>61186288
probably $500,000

i wonder who owns it

>>61188231
oh sorry man, ty for the help

also is there an easier way to know why a certain model is more or info on the model vs another model of the same watch

for example what we just spoke about.

is it even worth getting a sarx033 with the price it is verus something like a vintage grand seiko.

and what makes the sarx033 a meme now?

I want a solar or ecodrive or battery quartz traditional diver with day date display.

can't find one to save my life, help?

>>61188273
>is it even worth getting a sarx033 with the price it is verus something like a vintage grand seiko.
Is a vintage GS cheaper than a few hundred pounds? remember an older GS is going to need service, just a service could be 200+ pounds


>>61188273
>also is there an easier way to know why a certain model is more or info on the model vs another model of the same watch

not sure what you mean by this, are you asking why some watches are more popular than others?

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>>61188073
Depends which 4R. In the 7S family there's the 7S which is the most basic shitter movement, then the 6R is a prettied up 7S with two major upgrades being the addition of hacking and handwinding and the upgraded mainspring for a longer power reserve. The different 4R movements sit between the 7S and 6R and add only one of the two upgrades. The 4R1X movements add the upgraded mainspring but no hacking and handwinding, and the 4R3X movements add hacking and handwinding but have the regular mainspring.

But they're all extremely similar, you can swap around parts between them to make some frankenstein movements and you can swap out the movements themselves into different watches. Some guy offers a service to take an SKX007 and swap out the 7S for a modified 6R which has a day wheel added from the 7S.

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I still like this 34mm green. It probably wears close to a 38 due to the case?

>>61188313
the sarx033 is around £500-600 used

maybe if luck out i can get a vintage grand seiko for £700-1000

and I grand seiko for £1.5k

>>61188313
also it doesn't need servicing for 50 years @ grand seiko

>>61188721
>People are still spouting this bullshit
Seiko said the movement could theoretically remain sealed for 50 years, they never said anything about actually working for 50 years straight without taking care of it. You can download the instructions right here and see on page 21 where it says to send your watch in for servicing every 3 to 4 years: http://www.grand-seiko.com/support/instructions/?driveType=2


Buy a quartz GS, don't ever service it, and come shitpost here 50 years from now about how it's still running and maybe then I'll be impressed.

I don't think any watch could go 50 years without any kind of service

even an lcd with no moving parts and solar charging could not do that, no battery will function day in day out that long

>>61188990
Normally when we talk about service we don't mean just a battery change.

The grand seiko has a hermetic seal such that even if you open the caseback and change the battery the oiled components do not receive new air, which goes a long way in preventing new moisture from being introduced and aging the oils. The seal means they get to determine the air quality that enters the watch at time of manufacture or service.

Grand Seiko 9F quartz has a theoretical oil life of 50+ years with the oils used and assuming the seal never fails.

I only buy self-winding watches. Is my autism limiting what I could get?

Is the citizen eco drive worth it, and are there any similar alternatives for the price and performance?

>>61189225
>limiting what I could get?
Yes, but it's not like there's a shortage of automatic watches in many styles and technologies.

>>61189143

On a diver if you change the battery don't you have to do a pressure test (technically) to ensure it retains its rated depth certification?

since you can't do that yourself and it costs money i would call that a service

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hey /wt/

I am about to receive my first poorfag dress watch, and I am going to need a new strap for it (the original one has too many links missing, too short).

watch is picture related, what leather strap would you recommend that won't break the bank yet still look classy on this?

>>61189279
Keep the metal strap

>>61189232
>Is the citizen eco drive worth it, and are there any similar alternatives for the price and performance?

yes the citizen eco drive is "worth it" it is amazing tech, however most of them are ugly

seiko solar is basically the same thing

>>61189279

i don't think it would look good or dressy with leather

>>61189258
A pressure test doesn't actually do any service to the watch, it just tests its integrity.

And really, a battery change is much more significant than that.

Also, you generally want to pressure test a watch at least annually if you dive with it. If you have a good relationship with a watchmaker or jewelry store basic pressure tests in a vacuum chamber may be free.

>>61189390

Well when someone says "it will go 50 years without service but you have to change the battery and have a watchmaker pressure test it or it might leak and break"

that kind of takes away from the 50 years without service to me

to me service is time, if I have to go drive to a watchmaker and spend time running that errand i don't really care what he is doing back there even if by servicing and testing the watch it's not service because of they way someone is defining the word service

They should say "50 years without a cleaning or overhaul" or something like that

>>61189279
Are you Japanese?

I just got approved for a chase sapphire travel card that will award 50,000 bonus miles if I spend $4000 in the first three months. I have a 10k limit.

That means should go buy a submariner date and get 55,000 miles right?

that's a smart financial decision isn't it guys? convince me to do this

>>61189442
>>61189442
>Are you Japanese?

I think I'm turning Japanese

>>61189439
It's not 50 years without servicing. It's 50 years of theoretical oil life if you were not not service it. You service it more often >>61188915

Service is service. You might need to go around your car and check tire pressure, coolant level, oil level and other things, but if you're not actually doing anything other than "Is it still good? Oh, it is? I'm done." then it's not service.

>>61189485
idk do you travel a lot?

also, do you not have an amex plat you fucking pleb?

>>61188460
There is also a special 6R movement that operates at 28k bpm. But I can't think of any watches currently for sale which use it.

>>61189578
I have an amex card but I never use it, nobody takes amex it's inconvenient.

55k points works out to $700 in plane tickets. Yeah I would use that.

IMO the sapphire is a better card than the amex plat

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>>61189485
>that's a smart financial decision isn't it guys?

A Tudor Black Bay is only $2700 brand new?

wtf why did nobody tell me this, I thought they were 5grand.

fuck this im buying one

>>61189628
it's only 15% interest on $8500 for a watch I don't need

i would be stupid NOT to do it

right?

>>61189485
A mile has a value of about 2 cents.

>>61189772
but rolex

>>61186150
>I want a 1980s seiko diver 7548, but even the ones in nice condition have the lume all faded and worn out.
>Can I get a relume job done to make the lume as good as on a new SKX?
could someone answer this please

>>61189807
Just get an SKX they look virtually identical.

>>61189851
The cases are the same

I want quartz though. I basically want a quartz SKX

only question is if I can get the lume up to SKX standards

>>61189578
>amex
Why would you carry money that no one accepts

>>61189900
Amex is accepted at most places, places where it's not accepted I'm probably not spending that much there to begin with

>>61189941
>Amex is accepted at most places, places where it's not accepted I'm probably not spending that much there to begin with

I have an amex and don't find that to be the case.

anyway what does amex do for you that makes up for the inconvenience?

>>61189699
>A Tudor Black Bay is only $2700 brand new?

That is honestly how much a submariner should cost

>>61189941
This I use my amex for basically everything. And if they don't take it, I just use my phone to pay.
Those are usually tiny restaurants or like little shits that have an iPad point of sales system, and Samsung pay always works.

Literally the only issue I've run into is cash only places.

>>61189984
It is largely a status symbol. /wt/ of all places should recognize that.

>>61189718
>He actually keeps a balance on his credit card
Holy shit where do people this dumb come from?

>>61189867
The indices, hands & bezel are the same too.

>>61190007

Amex is a status symbol? I literally did not know that. Why is it a status symbol? I have one and think of it as my least useful card.

>>61190007
Also, if you use it right Amex has the best point to cent conversation.

>>61190013
Honestly this. I don't understand a lot of people's money management. Buy MOST people with a credit card do this. Who knows man.

>>61190013
no I really don't but if I put 9k on one for a watch I would have to pay it off over a couple of months.

What I am honestly going to do to spend the $4000 in 3 months to get the miles bonus is just to pay my rent on it then pay it right off.

The reason I have so many high limit cards is because I keep them paid off

>>61190023
>The indices, hands & bezel are the same too.
so are the lugs, so you can use aftermarket SKX bracelets and stuff

but what about the relume job? can I get someone to do a relume job as good as seiko does on new watches?

>>61190023
>The indices, hands & bezel are the same too.
I think the hands are different, I think the hole diameter is not the same

>>61190031
>Why is it a status symbol? I have one and think of it as my least useful card.
For the same reason people buy anything more than a $30 timex or casio.

>>61190031
There are several reasons. Owning an amex gold or plat means you can afford to pay for it. The point systems on these cards is beneficial only if you live a certain lifestyle (i.e. you travel for business and run up thousand dollar tabs or dinners all of which will be monetarily reimbursed but you still get the points), otherwise it's just burning a hole in your wallet.

>>61190134
>For the same reason people buy anything more than a $30 timex or casio.

I do not understand this analogy. How is an amex card a rolex and a visa a casio?

>>61190153
>There are several reasons. Owning an amex gold or plat means you can afford to pay for it. The point systems on these cards is beneficial only if you live a certain lifestyle (i.e. you travel for business and run up thousand dollar tabs or dinners all of which will be monetarily reimbursed but you still get the points), otherwise it's just burning a hole in your wallet.

OK i can see that I guess, not sure how that is different than a chase sapphire or something like that though.

Every shit card on earth says Platinum on it these days though

I think the amex being a status symbol thing is from like 30 years ago, i don't think it matters now unless you have a Black card or something

>>61190212
I'd have to agree with this. I used to work as a waiter and would see a lot of cards.
The only impressive ones were stuff made of like tungsten or other metals or black cards.

The rest is just your typical plastic.

>>61190153
>>61190212
Forgot to mention that you can't hold a balance on amex so when you pay with it it's proof you're not a degenerate debter.

>>61190310
>Forgot to mention that you can't hold a balance on amex so when you pay with it it's proof you're not a degenerate debter.
eh, there are many ways to pay your amex bill on credit

>>61190516

Is that you, archie?

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What the fuck I can't remove this shitty timex stretchy band. I don't have real tools but I usually manage with some jewellers tools. These don't seem to budge.


What do?

stupid question but how does amex make money if they don't charge interest on the balance people carry?

>>61190593
what is even going on there i don't see the pin

>>61190593
The pic is kinda blurry but maybe the springbar is bent?

>>61190614
You pay a yearly fee for the Amex charge cards. They also offer the usual credit cards.

But most of their money comes from the fact they charge a huge merchant fee (3-3.5%) compared to Visa and Mastercard

It's why a lot of places don't accept Amex.

>>61190614
Higher transaction fees on merchants than what other cards charge, hence why many stores won't accept amex.

>>61190697
>But most of their money comes from the fact they charge a huge merchant fee (3-3.5%) compared to Visa and Mastercard
shit that's a lot no wonder places won't take it

I don't browse /wt/ much so forgive me if this is out of place.

I broke my old watch in an unfortunate accident, and am looking for a new one. Could you guys help me find a replacement? Here are my requirements:

>digital display
>radio time sync
>displays full time and date in a non-retarded way
>has built in compass

What are my options under $100?

>>61190748
>$100
I mean under $200 sorry, it would be nice to find something for this under $100 though

Would you guys recommend any of the casio gshock line?

>>61189279
>>61189304
>>61189324

What bracelet would you recommend, then?

>>61190738
> shit that's a lot no wonder places won't take it
yeah. their argument is the people with an Amex are more affluent than you're average customer so will likely spend more.

>>61190766
Yes the casio gshock is perfect for what you want and they make radio atomic models.

Not sue about the compass though brah

you may have to get one that straps onto the band if you really need it. I don't know of any radio atomic watches that have a compass built in, or many watches in general that do

>>61190779
>What bracelet would you recommend, then?
The one that's on it or one that looks similar is good

>>61190783
>yeah. their argument is the people with an Amex are more affluent than you're average customer so will likely spend more.

I wonder what their deal with "you can absolutely not carry a balance" is though. Even very affluent people might have a few big expenses come up one month and prefer to pay off their balance over 120 days or something, why not make some money off that?

>>61190793
OK thanks, I'll try finding a good gshock

>>61190802
The strap that comes with it has too many links missing, won't fit around my fist. I don't know whether it's possible to get extra links for that strap (other than buying a similar strap / buying another watch to salvage links off of).

Any recommended, preferably solid link bracelets around? I am not very familiar with the Seiko bracelet lineup, don't know what sort of keywords to search for on eBay.

>>61184860
look outside, idiot

>>61190156
Less functional status symbol.

>>61190846
just search for LM bracelet or Lord Matic bracelet

gonna be a bitch to find though and probably cost 100bucks

>>61190846
Personally, I think a jubilee with straight end links would look pretty neat.

>>61190928
>look outside, idiot
do you ever get jokes?

>>61190766
It might be hard to find everything you listed + the built in compass under $200

But there are plenty of casios at 100-150 with everything minus the compass.

>>61190830
>Even very affluent people might have a few big expenses come up one month and prefer to pay off their balance over 120 days or something,
Hence that status behind the card, when you use it you can pay for it.

>>61190830
Why would you ever incur extra costs when you can avoid them? You clearly aren't rich enough if you need time to pay stuff off.

>>61191024
>Why would you ever incur extra costs when you can avoid them? You clearly aren't rich enough if you need time to pay stuff off.

Everyone runs into cash flow problems brah

or make a purchase they want to pay off over a few months when they are due a bonus or their house sells or whatever, I just don't see the logic in "Pay in full every month" if someone want's to carry a balance for 2 months why not make money off them instead of forcing them to pull out their visa?

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>>61190556
Fuck off ninegag

>>61191017
>Hence that status behind the card, when you use it you can pay for it.

Well not really, rich people have many ways of getting money. They could pay their amex with a line of credit on their home or a signature line from a bank.

When they do that amex is just fucking themselves out of the interest someone else is making

>>61191063
Because that incurs interest? The point is that you don't do that with Amex.

>>61191024
>Why would you ever incur extra costs when you can avoid them? You clearly aren't rich enough if you need time to pay stuff off.
Even the richest people take out loans and pay interest all the time, they get good rates but they do it

>>61191063
>Everyone runs into cash flow problems brah
Not if you are smart with your finances.

>>61191094
>Because that incurs interest? The point is that you don't do that with Amex.

Let's say you are wealthy and want to buy a 100k car and you are due a 200k bonus in 60 days but you want the car now. What's paying 1% to get your car 60 days early?

>>61191063
>I just don't see the logic in "Pay in full every month" if someone want's to carry a balance for 2 months why not make money off them instead of forcing them to pull out their visa?
I know this might be hard to understand, but rich people (i mean truly rich people who have significant savings) don't carry balances, because they don't have to. Why would you ever carry a balance when you can just pay it off immediately?

>>61191112
>>Everyone runs into cash flow problems brah
>Not if you are smart with your finances.

Nigger bill gates runs into cash flow problems sometimes, you are delusional if you think being "rich" means you have unlimited cash on hand at all times and unexpected expenses never come up

rich people have a lot of their wealth tied up in non liquid assets like land business investments. If you need a bunch of cash this instant it's not like you can just go pull it out of your land holdings in an hour

>>61191099
No, you get rich by not incurring costs which could otherwise be avoided.

>>61191126
Well typically if you're getting 200k bonuses you probably have the capital to just buy the car. If you're threading the needle like that irl you've probably got spending issues.

I mean if they want to do it they still can, most people have more than one card, especially if one of those is an amex.

>>61191166
Being rich means you don't live paycheck to paycheck. I'm sorry if you can't fathom a way of living where you save more than you spend.

>>61191141
>I know this might be hard to understand, but rich people (i mean truly rich people who have significant savings) don't carry balances, because they don't have to. Why would you ever carry a balance when you can just pay it off immediately?

You don't understand what rich people do with their money, they don't leave it in cash, they invest it in assets. If something comes up just because someone is worth 5mil does not mean he has 100k in cash lying around

it can take a while to get cash out of your investments

>>61191126
Well you have to pay the charge at the end of the month so you could get upto 30 days.

However even then most Amex users don't have a $100k limit on their card. Probably only an Amex Blackcard could do that.

>>61191206
> If something comes up just because someone is worth 5mil does not mean he has 100k in cash lying around it can take a while to get cash out of your investments

And these types of people don't just randomly stumble into 100k car purchases, they plan for it ahead of time.

>>61191202
>Being rich means you don't live paycheck to paycheck. I'm sorry if you can't fathom a way of living where you save more than you spend.
What the fuck did I say about living paycheck to paycheck?

Let's say you are a partner at a law firm and the firm is worth 20mil and your portion is worth 5mil. You have a million dollar house that's paid for and investments in real estate worth 2million

well all of a sudden some shit comes up and you need to write a 100k check today, you are going to have to borrow that money be it a home equity loan or whatever. That does not mean you are not rich or live paycheck to paycheck

want to know how I know you don't come from money?

>>61191268
>well all of a sudden some shit comes up and you need to write a 100k check today
That doesn't happen unless you are living irresponsibly and are trying to thread the needle.

Want to know how I know you don't come from old money?

>>61191259
>And these types of people don't just randomly stumble into 100k car purchases, they plan for it ahead of time.

Utterly and completely wrong.

They come into opportunities and seize them. Maybe an acquaintance is desperate and has to sell his Ferrari as fast as possible, or they otherwise come up on a great deal. That's when it makes sense to take out a quick loan and scoop up a 100k car for 75k.

Making plans to pay MSRP is for suckers

>>61191288
>>well all of a sudden some shit comes up and you need to write a 100k check today
>That doesn't happen unless you are living irresponsibly and are trying to thread the needle.

you are wrong

opportunities present themselves quickly and you have to pounce on them

>>61191288
Their rates are so low it's basically free money. You can buy an exotic car and sell it later netting a zero loss, maybe even net a profit, all after paying monthly rates.

>>61191331
Again, you only NEED to pounce if you aren't truly rich.

>>61185327
I unironically want one

>>61191360
There is no profit in buying new cars unless you get lucky and buy something that ends up being a classic or runs into strange supply/demand issues.

>>61191313
>>61191360
You don't HAVE to use your amex just because you have it.

Obviously if you have a lot of money to buy something like a yacht you're not going to hand them your fucking amex. The point is that you run up a huge fucking tab at some bar and look powerful when you pay with an amex.

>>61191313
Rich people don't concern themselves with 100k cars. That's not where you make money.

>>61191364
>Again, you only NEED to pounce if you aren't truly rich.
Pouncing on opportunities is how the rich get and stay rich

you honestly are just wrong about this issue of the rich not borrowing at very low rates against collateral to seize opportunities, this is big business for banks and common practice

>>61191414
>Rich people don't concern themselves with 100k cars.

they don't? ok ill keep that in mind

>>61191421
>>61191421
>you honestly are just wrong about this issue of the rich not borrowing at very low rates against collateral to seize opportunities, this is big business for banks and common practice
I never said they don't do that, I said they don't do that on an amex or any credit card for that matter.

>>61191377
>I unironically want one

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2005-SIGNATURE-COLLECTION-DONALD-J-TRUMP-DIAMOND-GOLDPLATED-WATCH-H20-RESISTANT-/222559880014?epid=2105093097&hash=item33d19a434e:g:d6YAAOSwEzxYYgW7

>>61191390
No one said they buy them new.

>>61191442
Yes, they don't put themselves into debt over a stupid car. Jesus christ.

>>61191479
>Yes, they don't put themselves into debt over a stupid car. Jesus christ.

They do it all the time at interest rates below the rate of inflation, they actually save money this way

you don't know what you are talking about

>>61191479
>>61191360

>>61191493
If a 100k car purchase puts them into debt, they aren't rich.

>>61191479
>Yes, they don't put themselves into debt over a stupid car. Jesus christ.

It is much smarter and cheaper to pay for a car at 1% interest for X years than to pay for it in cash

>>61191523
>>61191493
>It is much smarter and cheaper to pay for a car at 1% interest for X years than to pay for it in cash
And this is exactly something they don't do on an amex, where the whole fucking shitty conversation started.

>>61191515
You are dense.

>>61191515
>If a 100k car purchase puts them into debt, they aren't rich.

It's not debt the way you are thinking of it. They have the money.

If you pay 1% on 100k for 5 years while inflation was 2.9% during those years that means you just saved 1.9% on the car every year And for most of the time could have that money invested elsewhere where it was earning you money. instead of sitting in a depreciating car

this is how rich people stay rich

not complicated

I am not pulling this out of my ass or making shit up, this is what they do and is common practice.

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My zeppelin

>>61191544
>And this is exactly something they don't do on an amex, where the whole fucking shitty conversation started.
you said rich people don't go into debt over cars, they do

>>61191586
If they're smart, they bought a car that will appreciate.

>>61191596
Zeppelins are neat but you literally picked the worst possible one, even if it's a Miyota movement.

Is it at least the 90S5 movement or some shitty obsolete 82xx series?

>>61191650
It is automatic Miyota 82S5

>>61191596
How can they put "Made in Germany" on watches that have no German parts?

>>61191713
Germans are sneaky and not to be trusted

>>61191732
How long before we see "Glashütte" on watches that weren't made there?

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>>61191710
Kek, literally worst choice you cuck, Zeppelin makes a bunch of watches with either Miyota 9000 series or ETA 2824.

>>61191586
Why would a company lend money at a rate that loses them money?

>>61191800
They do it all the time. They do it when the loan is backed by hard collateral. They do it as a store of money, as a "safe" place to park money that at least gets them some return vs. 0% if left in cash.

1% at basically no risk is better than 0%

If they want to start beating inflation they have to loan money out at 5-6% and that means taking risk. So they have different allocations of their money in risk pools that vary.

Same reason investors put money in certificates of deposit that pay less than inflation or "savings accounts" at local banks at 1.5%, some return is better than none and if you are risk averse you are going to get a low rate

>>61191800
https://www.quora.com/The-inflation-rate-is-about-3-banks-offers-a-loan-rates-under-3-does-the-bank-lose-money

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>>61191800
The 10 year treasury bond issued by the US goverment pays 2.3 percent and billions are sold every year. It is one of the key bonds for sale in the world.

Average annual inflation is 3.2%

>>61191974
>The 10 year treasury bond issued by the US goverment pays 2.3 percent and billions are sold every year. It is one of the key bonds for sale in the world.
>Average annual inflation is 3.2%
((who))could be behind this?

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>/wt/ resident richfags and finance experts shitposting again
How about you post what nasty shitter you're wearing today instead?

>>61192096
there's already been several SKXs posted, a casio gshock, and some old jap seikos

basically we are done with watches for the day, all bases have been covered

>>61192009
If you think artificial inflation is bad,
https://anticorruptionsociety.com/the-bankruptcy-of-america-1933/

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>>61192154
I haven't seen any explorers posted yet.

>>61192331

two have been posted:

>>61182644

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Too lazy to take a shot from today, but here is my micro-brand shitter.

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>>61192331
Nice memesplorer.

>>61182918
wear girls watches

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liek?

>>61192545
Hockey puck

>>61192632
Grown man's watch

>>61192545
That red stripe is just too ostentatious for me. Such a garish display of wealth should be made illegal. You risk causing bread riots among the lower classes with a strip like that.

>>61192678
Crap, I knew it. What can I do? I thought about sanding it off then polishing the groove, or leaving it rough and painting it black with flat primer.

what should I do?

>>61192632
it's 2mm wider than an skx007 but it's thinner

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42mm SKX next to 44mm SNE435/437

>>61192694
Don't damage it's value you fool! You should probably remove the windy knob entirely and just replace it with something more pedestrian, like something from a submariner or a calatrava. Then store the knob in a fireproof safe for difficult times.

>>61192885
Did you pull the one on the left out of a cereal box? It's like they didn't even try compared to the one on the right.

>>61192937
I keep the box and extra links in a safety deposit box at a bank in Manhattan (I flew there with a metal suitcase handcuffed to my wrist), I guess I could keep the windy knob there too. Maybe I could have one custom turned on a lathe by Lockheed Martin or SpaceX.

I was in a bathysphere at the bottom of the challenger deep last week with Richard Branson and James Cameron and both their watches got so clogged with helium they started running slow. They were embarrassed but I tried not to rub it in their face.

They still call me a couple of times a day to ask what time it is

>>61192956
>Did you pull the one on the left out of a cereal box? It's like they didn't even try compared to the one on the right.
They ran out of money half way through making it, they had to use scraps of fabric for a band :(

>>61193049
What time is it, by the way?

>>61193075

10:55:37.314 GMT

come on James, I know your atomic clock needs syncing but I can't be doing it for you 3 times a day

>>61193119
If you must know, I was calibrating my new clock which keeps time with a micro-singularity.

>>61192668

GROWN

MANS

WATCH

>>61192668
Is that your nice way of saying overweight

>>61192545
What's the generic name for this type of bezel?

>>61193909

The chapter ring?

Which brand catalogues are worth getting?

>>61194148
Looks like there's some confusion with that term, some people use it to call that part and some to refer to the outer part of dial where hour markings are.
Anyhow, the layman's term for watches with that thing is diver's watches, right?

>>61193668
it's really not bigger than an skx007
>>61192885

>>61194472
not really, some chapter rings either have 24 hour markers on them or the compass points and are not on divers

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>>61194472
>>61194705

>>61194330

JLC

>>61194719
What's the point of the compass points? It's watch not a compass.

So what's the unambiguous term to call a bezel with stuff on it?

>>61194817
>So what's the unambiguous term to call a bezel with stuff on it?
chapter ring
>>61194817
>What's the point of the compass points? It's watch not a compass.
it's a pilot's watch

>>61194839
>chapter ring
or bezel

What is a good place for second hand watches?

>>61194858
ebay
mywatchmart

>>61194863
>mywatchmart
Damn bro, right on the money. Thank you very much.

>>61194839
>it's a pilot's watch
and? is there any use of those compass markings?

>>61194839
The chapter ring is on the inside of the watch. If you have an SKX, it's the misaligned one.

What are some good entry level pilot or casual watches?

>>61195768
Whatever seiko 5 you like the look of, if you're looking at the poorfag price range.

What does /g/ think about TW Steel watches?

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>>61195852

>>61195852
WHERE DO YOU FAGGOTS KEEP FINDING THESE FUCKING GARBAGE WATCH BRANDS????????????? WHERE DO YOU GO WHERE YOU SEE THEIR ADS

>>61196061
They are probably browsing amazon or ebay for "mens sport watch" or some shit like that and see them as they scroll past then try to find info on them

if you search for generic watch terms on ebay like that you will find so much trash it will blow your mind

where can I find a Sarg009 for under $400. it's a bretty nice watch but I don't wanna pay more than it's retail.

>>61196144
>I don't wanna pay more than it's retail.

Last I checked it was discontinued. So you're boned in that regard unless you somehow luck out and find a used one for cheap.

>>61181160
BACK TO /R/WATCHES WITH YOU

>>61195301
I was out in the woods with my gf a few weeks back and we tried using the compass for shits and giggles and it lined up exactly with my iphone compass

>>61196507
I meant how that works? What is the compass hand?

>>61196158
Yea that's what I'm hoping for. I just thought someone would have a connection to Japanese dealers who have new old stock and are willing to sell or something along those lines

Is the vostok amphibia or komandirskie good for its price range?

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>>61181160
Honestly in the vintage world seiko is truly amazing. If you feel the quality difference between this 6139-6005 it feels modern. It's hefty and feels like proper build quality while 90% of Swiss watches back then feel like cheap plated crap.

>>61181715
Yes that bracelet is awesome

>>61196890
is that you, OFD?

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>>61182471
Since you gave no context I'll say the SKX. Fits in well with pretty much any collection, and if you don't like the red/blue motif there's a black version as well. Properly robust and versatile. Yes it lacks hand winding and hacking but most new collectors don't care about that stuff.

>>61182560
Not really a fair comparison as Rolex used to use a lot of third party parts and lacked marketing presence. Now they even forge their own steel in house and pour millions into celebrity endorsement.

>>61196953
>Not really a fair comparison as Rolex used to use a lot of third party parts and lacked marketing presence. Now they even forge their own steel in house and pour millions into celebrity endorsement.

A bracelet is $2200

a fucking steel bracelet

it's just a status symbol

>>61186199
Yeah I think it was gifted to him from someone in the secret service. Also a lot of democratic presidents/candidates seem to wear junky watches while in the spotlight to not alienate their poorer voter base.

>>61186517
Seiko SNK my friend

>>61190002
We'll but then you have to compare what the competitors are selling at and I don't think a sub should be less than a seamaster

Thinking about getting my first premium nato strap. Is an alphashark strap worth the extra sheckles?

>>61197236
You are just basing that on status though.

Tudor can make a black bay and an in house movement and make a profit selling it for $2700. There is no way a Rolex date sub should be $8500 for any other reason than it being a status symbol.

It's not $6000 better than a tudor from a mechanical point of view

>/g/ - jewelry

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The prices of watch straps in some watch shop here is fucking expensive, maybe i should order a handmade one.

>>61197274
For that price people pay mostly for the brand name, anyone said other wise is a fucking dumb dumb.
I might go for a Tudor black bay in the future instead of a Sub.

>>61196926
OFD?

>>61197274
Yeah the point of luxury products is kinda about status right? Imo Rolex is the status symbol and those wanting 99% of the quality and actually care about value go for Tudor

>>61188214
only do this if it's a popular item though!

>>61197344
>>61197442
agreed

at first I didn't like the way the tudor looked and preferred the sub, but over the years the tudor has grown on me and I think i like the look of the black bay better than the sub

also the tudor is less pretentious, the sub is too famous you can't wear one without looking like a guy who is trying too hard

>>61197254
.I don't know about that brand, but I have bought cheap natos before and never been happy with them, they really feel cheap

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hi /g/ents, can i ask you a question?
what rolex model is this and what would the price be? new and used

>>61197477
Thanks for the reply! Any brands you'd recommend?

>>61197487
datejust

$6500 new

a lot less used

>>61197487
oyster perpetual date.

>>61197487
Looks like a Rolex AirKing-Date probably 3500-4000$ USD

>>61197487
I remember it, I thought a tudor ranger would suit the character better

>>61197499
>Thanks for the reply! Any brands you'd recommend?

Honestly I have only bought a few cheap ones and have now sworn off cheap ones forever, I am in the same boat as far as finding which quality ones are worth paying up for

it's one of those things where you think someone could make a decent one cheap so I kept trying thinking I had just found a bad maker, but all the cheap ones have been unacceptable

>>61197522
>>61197524
>>61197541
thanks fellas

>>61197543
kek

>>61197541
if it were an air king you could see the cursive script "air king" text on it, i can't read the text but it's not cursive

>>61197546
I'm mostly happy with the couple I have that are a brand called Barton straps but they definitely feel cheap compared to the Omega strap my dad has on his Seamaster. Not to mention the cheap hardware

>>61197522
>datejust
>>61197524
>oyster perpetual date.
which of these is right

>>61197585
yeah once you feel a good strap it ruins you for the crappy ones IMO

>>61197499
BluShark straps are incredibly high quality for the 20$ range, they also have the alpha-shark range which is 30-40$ and rivals omegas quality for NATO straps

>>61197606
That's exactly what I'm looking for! Thanks dude!

>>61197589
Idk if OP posted a photo that wasn't taken with a potato we'd know wouldn't we?

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>>61197589

>>61197606
>the alpha-shark range which is 30-40$ and rivals omegas quality for NATO straps
If true that would be well worth 40bucks

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>>61197614
No problem

>>61197618
it's not a photo it's a screenshot from a tv show

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>>61197618
>Idk if OP posted a photo that wasn't taken with a potato we'd know wouldn't we?
true

>>61197589
https://www.rolex.com/watches/datejust/m115200-0008.html

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>>61197620
No kidding! Just pulled the trigger on one from Amazon. I'll post an update next week when it comes. Now I just need them to make a navy with gold stripes version and I'll be finally content lol. I bought pic related

>>61197652
So the date 34 is a version of the datejust?

so basically they were both right?

>>61197672
basically!

>tfw no lucky grandfather ass watch