/pcbg/ PC Building General

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REMINDER i7 7700k is still the BEST SOLUTION for a PURE GAMING platform.

Especially @ 144hz

>>61147755
REMINDER THAT THIS IS CORRECT, IF YOU WISH O STREAM USE A RYZEN R7 CPU OR FOR MORE THAN A GAMING PC USE RYZEN

>>61147755
and nothing else.

>op pic
top tech Kek

>>61147735
>Can someone tell me what MOBO and what ram freq to get for a ryzen 1600???
Something not made by MSI and then look at the memory QVL for the non-MSI MOBO you do pick.

>>61147755
>only gaming
there are people who do this?

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> ones on the right don't thread case
Help

How does this build look. Any idea when the GTX will be restocked?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Liamc117/saved/8CtGXL

Any ideas for a more affordable monitor?
thanks.

>>61147831
Er, left, managed to take it upside down. Perfect.

The ones on the left are flat-top, black, and flat-bottom. They don't fit my case.

The ones on the right are
>silver, long, flat bottom round top;
came as bolts for the stock cooler receptor fixture, exactly 4 of them
>round top, black, pointed bottom
>yellow risers, only two of them
>the CPU slot cover screws (two unmounted to make room for GPU) flat bottom, extra wide top
Which ones do I go with for fixing motherboard to the case?

>>61147836
Solid build, go for it

>>61147807
yea thank you. Think ill go for the Asrock AB350M

As far as ram this is on sale:
memory D4 3000 16GB C16 GSkill Aegis K2 [F4-3000C16D-16GISB]

is it ok? it's 110€ atm

>>61147836
Looks good.
http://www.nowinstock.net/
use this site. They will send you email alerts when the item you want is restocked. With graphics cards these days, there's a 10 minute window at the moment because miners before they're sold out again.

>>61147873
why have bitcoin miners grown so suddenly?

>>61147897
it's not bitcoin. It's a different cryptocurrency called etherium. It's been going up in value and it's resistant to the asics cards meant for mining, so GPU mining is still more efficient.

>>61147831
>>61147854
p-pls respond
Do I have to worry about some screws fucking the board or being too conductive? Or just 'use whatever will work' ? inb4 woodscrews

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>>61147713

I posted this in the last thread and you guys told me to post a picture of my setup

Hi guys, I need your HELP.

Got me a new desktop since my last one was 9 years old.
Bought this:

>casing:
Corsair - Carbide 270R
>CPU:
Intel Core i5-7600K
>MB:
MSI Z170A PC MATE, Intel Z170
>RAM:
16GB DDR4-2400 Corsair Vengeance
>hard drive 1:
240GB SanDisk Plus
>hard drive 2:
1TB Seagate BarraCuda
>power adapter:
550W Corsair Vengeance Series
>CPU-cooler:
be quiet! Pure Rock Slim

Paid 1200 bucks for it.

Everything runs nice and smooth, performance is very good BUT there is one fucking problem.

Something rattles in there. It is not one of the 4 build in fans (GPU, CPU, 1 front, 1 back) I stopped everyone of them manually and the rattling was still there. This drives me insane. What could it be?

Also pic related blinks all the time even if I do not use the PC and no program is being executed

>>61147959
Hard Drive
Cpu Cooler
Casing

>>61147959
Did you open it up and figure out where the rattling noise is coming from?

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>>61147959

Here is the picture.

It is definetely NOT one of the fans. Again I stopped them one by one manually and the sound is still there.
It is also not the power adapter in my opinion which pretty much only leaves the hard disks as suspects. Doesn't it? Right now the PC is calm and quiet, most sound is still generalted by the disks

>>61147755
>>61147783
samefag

>>61147713
Is semen really that effective?

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>>61147959
>$1200
>for a i5 build

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>>61147982
>>61147971

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>>61147985
nice try parjeet

>>61147983
Open the other side instead of this one. You need to be able to put your ears to the drive cage and PSU.

>>61147989
more effective then whatever the fuck intel uses as TIM

>>61148008
this, lol and he only has a 1060. where tf did all your money go? I built a system with 1080 ti and 7700k for $1800.

>>61147983
>>61147959

>>61148011
Show us the other side

>>61148013
i too can use ms paint

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>>61148027
>$1800
>QUAD CORE

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Should I build a PC now or wait for the new MOBOs for threadripper/i9 generation CPUs?

I was thinking to wait for the new boards and settle for some 6 core CPU and then be able to replace it with a top of the line 16 core one when the years have passed and they've become cheap. So this way I'd be set for a long time.

Good idea or not?

>>61148082
b350 mobos are like 80$ so idk if your strategy will payoff.
a X299 is gonna be like 300$, also u're assuming AM4 will top out @ 8 cores for some reason

>>61148072
>more ryzen shills
get lost kiddo

should it ever come back in stock, is a single fan on an RX570 enough to keep it within decent temps? the Sapphire Pulse ITX or something like that

>>61148027
>>61148008

Just looked up how much each of the parts cost. I paid 120 bucks more but got an assembly, free shipping and 3 years guarantee for it. In my book thats ok.

>>61148118
Just wait for Vega.

>>61148121
nigger everything i got was free shipping and has warranty. You do know you have to ship the entire thing back whenever something breaks right? you know how much is costs to ship an entire tower? minimum is at least $50. pre builts are fucking retarded.

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>>61148098
INTELBRO HUGBOX GENERAL
>>61147703
>>61147703
>>61147703

>>61148134
Leak vega specs show it to be weak as shit

>>61147813
there are people who program instead of paying people to program for them so... yes

>>61148134
I'm too poor. it's like $170 on a good day. not spending $400 on a GPU

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>>61148082
>i9
fuck no

>>61148148

1. I live in Europe everything is more expensive here
2. except shipping
3. I just wanted to not care about shit, plug and play.

>>61148152
>OMG SOMEONE DOESNT LIKE SOMETHING I LIKE LET ME SHILL AND GET ANGRY AT HIM FOR NOT FOLLOWING WHAT I FOLLOW

gtfo trump supporter. fucking shill fuck.

>>61148191
He gotta keep his job since he can't shill vega given that vega is fucking shit

>>61148095
I admit I was kind of looking at x299, despite Intel's recent influx of insanity.

>>61148168
[spoiler]I don't OC[/spoiler]

>>61148082
Just get a Ryzen 7 1700

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>>61148032

btw where is the SSD supposed to be lol

>>61148223
>I admit I was kind of looking at x299, despite Intel's recent influx of insanity.
Right, x399 (TR's) are gonna be slightly cheaper maybe, but still 80$ is nothing for your motherboard, so playing the waiting game makes little sense.

You could invest the difference on a 1700 and then just see what's up in 2-3 years

whew lads
New mobo
Still not getting to bios but will now turn itself off with the power button as well as turn on
progressssss

>>61148232
I dont see an ssd in there buddy. lol

>>61148223
>[spoiler]
back to /v/ faggot

>>61148232
Don't look like you have an SSD senpai. Or is it a PCI-E one under your GPU. I can't see clearly. Anyway with the casing open, have you figured out where the noise is coming from?

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>>61148191
>gtfo trump supporter
guess who is L O W E N E R G Y in this image

>>61148232
THIS FUCKING DUDE SPENT $1200 AND DIDN'T EVEN GET AN SSD

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>>61148277
>1060
>i5
>no ssd
AHAHAHHAHA

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>>61148277
>1200$
>4c/4t cpu
>no ssd

>>61148277
he said he has a 240GB Sandisk Plus. Maybe he shoved the 2.5" drive somewhere it shouldn't be

>>61148265
>>61148271
>>61148277

kek there is one since I already installed game on it. must be under the GPU.

>>61148271

Yes it is the barracuda hard disk. It has a steady buzzing/humming.

>>61148276
holy damn dude, do you have nothing better to do with your life? I literally built the PC for just gaming, I don't do stupid video editing, streaming or any other weeb stupid shit. I do school work and gaming, so please tell me why a ryzen cpu would be a better choice when 7700k perform better overall in gaming? also I did look at getting a 1600x, non of the mbs that were worthwhile had wireless and that was another $40 to add to the pc. intel is just easier to stick with.

>>61148297
>Yes it is the barracuda hard disk
tha'ts not a ssd

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>>61148287
>>61148284
STOOOOOOPPPPPPP

>>61148297
>Yes it is the barracuda hard disk. It has a steady buzzing/humming.
Well. Then your HDD might be fucked. Go google and download crystaldiskinfo. Post a screenshot for us to see. It will also tell us if you actually have an SSD or you just got bamboolzed.

>>61148297
take another pic of under the gpu/around us

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>>61148299
>holy damn dude, do you have nothing better to do with your life? I literally built the PC for just gaming, I don't do stupid video editing, streaming or any other weeb stupid shit. I do school work and gaming, so please tell me why a ryzen cpu would be a better choice when 7700k perform better overall in gaming? also I did look at getting a 1600x, non of the mbs that were worthwhile had wireless and that was another $40 to add to the pc. intel is just easier to stick with.

>>61148240
Wait, check that. It's turning itself on and then turning itself off. At random, ~10 period. But it will respond to holding of the power button and turn off and stay off.

I also think I have some very quiet sounds from the mobo on bootup. Which is better than my kill last one.

>>61148311
dude bought a pre-built, he literally has to send the entire thing back in just to get his hdd replaced/fixed

>>61148301

No but it is where the noise is comming from

>>61148311
>>61148314

gimme a sec

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>>61148299
did you use that starbucks card yet?

>>61148297
>>kek there is one since I already installed game on it. must be under the GPU.
Sandisk plus is NOT a PCI-E SSD. Take a clear picture of both sides for us again. Straight on viewing angles. You might have been scammed.

>>61148338
>both xbox and playstation has amd products
no thanks I'll avoid that crap tastic bs. I rather have a $10 starbucks card

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>>61148325
>dude bought a pre-built
MY SIDES ARE IN FUCKING ORBIT AHAHAHAHA

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>>61148340
>>61148314
>>61148311

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>>61148351

>>61148363
i cant fucking wait to see that he doesnt even have an ssd, someone needs to screencap all his posts once he finds out he got scammed

>>61148366
Alright. Just do the crystaldiskinfo thing and report back.

>>61148366
There she is.

But anyway, since you have both noise coming from the HDD along with the blinking light problem, I'd say there's definitely something wrong with it.

>>61148388
>better send the entire tower back to get your hdd fixed

fuck prebuilts man

>>61148407
Can't you just send back the HDD?

>>61148388

What does the blinking light even mean? Doesn't it just symbold that the disk is accessed ?

Thinking about buying another SSD for this build 250 gb is not much

>>61148419
its not mine, but from what I know most pre-builts have warranty sticks over the side panel not letting you open it up.

>>61148419
>>61148407

Dude it could be that I am just picky

>>61148385

I did, what now?

>>61148431
Doesn't look like a pre-built to me. More like I ordered it from somewhere and ask them to put it together for me kinda thing. My local brick and mortar store has such a service if you purchase an entire build from them.

>>61148431

No, warranty is for each and every part. That warranty stick shit ended in about 2010

REAL THREAD FOR REAL INTELBROS
>>61148426
>>61148426
>>61148426

no amdrones allowed

>>61148439
>What now?
Post the screenshot?

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>>61148442

This is what I did.


>>61148385

>>61148461
That's the wrong drive, m8.

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>>61148468

Yeah I am retarded, all the talk about my "missing" SSD lol

>>61148277
Lol how the fuck is this even possible? I dropped almost $400 less and came out with a 1600, 1050Ti, and a 500GB SSD.

>>61148461
>>61148491
Both drives are good it seems.
Could be a header issue or just a noisy drive. A quick search on google shows that there are plenty of people complaining about 7200 RPM drives being noisy as fuck.

Right now your options are:
1. Call the place you bought the items and ask what are the return policies and see if you can exchange for a new drive
2. Call Seagate and request an RMA. Since it passed SMART, you need to show them something to prove there is an issue. I suggest taking a video with the rattling noise in it and start a ticket with their QA.
3. Live with it

>>61148491
no he means it's SATA and not PciE, are u sure u paid for a PciE one?

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>>61147755
"no"

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>>61148538
All around me are familiar faces
Worn out spaces, worn out places
Bright and early for the daily races
Goin' no where, goin' no where
And their tears are fillin' up their glasses
No expression, no expression
Hide my head I wanna drown my sorrow
No tomorrow, no tomorrow
And I find it kind of funny, I find it kind of sad
The dreams in which I'm dyin' are the best I ever had
I find it hard to tell you, I find it hard to take
When people run in circles it's a very, very
Mad world, mad world

>>61148530
bruh, this guy is a fucking moron. He probably doesn't even know what m.2 is.

>>61148530

Article said
>240GB SanDisk Plus that what I got and what I paid for

I ordered from a well known company that suggests builds but you can also have them assemble your own.

>>61148515

Problem is the rattling comes and goes, I don't see a pattern here. When playing Rising Storm Vietman 2 on Ultra settings the system is the the most quiet.

I think I will live with it or buy a new one for 70 bucks later this year. We will see.

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>>61148538
It starts with one thing
I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind
I designed this rhyme
To explain in due time
All I know
Time is a valuable thing
Watch it fly by as the pendulum swings
Watch it count down to the end of the day
The clock ticks life away

It's so unreal
Didn't look out below
Watch the time go right out the window
Trying to hold on, but you didn't even know
Wasted it all just to watch you go
I kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me
Will eventually be a memory of a time when

I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter

One thing, I don't know why
It doesn't even matter how hard you try
Keep that in mind
I designed this rhyme
To remind myself of a time when
I tried so hard
In spite of the way you were mocking me
Acting like I was part of your property
Remembering all the times you fought with me
I'm surprised it got so
Things aren't the way they were before
You wouldn't even recognize me anymore
Not that you knew me back then
But it all comes back to me in the end
You kept everything inside
And even though I tried, it all fell apart
What it meant to me will eventually be a memory of a time when

I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter

I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this
There's only one thing you should know
I've put my trust in you
Pushed as far as I can go
For all this
There's only one thing you should know

I tried so hard
And got so far
But in the end
It doesn't even matter
I had to fall
To lose it all
But in the end
It doesn't even matter

singalong intel edition: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8F0d77pajE

>>61148561
>Problem is the rattling comes and goes
Then it is most likely a problem with the motor parts of the drive. Eh I won't keep very important stuff on that drive if I were you. HDD with such issues tend to fail with no warning. But if you are going to keep it, making sure to monitor it with CrystalDiskInfo at least once every week and the moment, you see it turn yellow, backup everything into another drive and then just keep using it till it breaks.

>>61148051
mspaint? can't you just edit the page through your browser.

>>61148630

Thank you, I appreciate your adivce. What would be a better option than said HDD? Like with a different rpm rate?

I'd like to make a small, cheap emulation machine. I'm considering Bristol Ridge that was apparently launched last year but I must be retarded because I can't find that shit online. Did they actually launch it or is AMD lineup just incredibly confusing?

What mobo should I get if I want to upgrade from a G4560 to a 7700K in a few months? Have to get some work done on my car so I want to lower my initial cost on my new rig a bit.

>pull apart computer to clean and reapply paste
>screws holding in CPU fan are threaded AND rusted in place
HELP!

Last thread I asked if a 280x was still gud for 1080p.
Some anon said i need to OC it to 1150mhz and then 6000mhz memory?

My 280x is already at 1500mhz mem clock stock.

There's no way in hell it can oc to 1150 without blowing up tho.
Best OC i think i got back then was 1090 from 1020mhz I think


What gives?

>>61148711
> reapply paste

why?

Fuuuuuuuuuck!

Now even the 1050 Ti is out of stock in most places.
I've only found it on Walmart at $191. Definitely a ripoff.
At this point, I feel like I should just pull my current HD6870, and use that until better cards get back in stock. It's been days of picking parts. I want to buy my shit now.

>>61148721
what the heck is with this meme? a year is max what you should paste on.

>>61148736
>a year is max what you should paste on
I haven't changed it in 5 years

>>61148662
7200 RPM is fine. It is just that some people fine 7200 RPM drives noisy. Personally I only have SSD in my PC and all my HDD are on a NAS at the rear of my room so the sound never bothers me. You might want to do your own research on what is good. My drives are all WD reds and blues.

>>61148741
>running hot for sure

>>61148752
not really no.
Maybe got +10C in 5 years, but it could be due to dust and such

>>61148736

I bet you are the kind of person that oils a Glock

>>61148721
>>61148736
>>61148741
>>61148752
I'm the anon with the stuck screws...I haven't changed mine since I built it back in '11...I mean my CPU idles at 35-40c but I figure that's a bit too high. Is it okay to leave it as is or should I reapply as I thought? Also, suggestions on getting it off?

>>61148727
Man, when the bubble explode the tears will be awesome, I'll pay a visit to /biz/ in this day

>>61148747
> NAS
> WD reds and blues.

what is that?

Also anny suggestions on what programs are good to monitor my cpu and gpu?

>>61148790
When the bubble explodes I'm cashing in and gettin all those sweet GPUs being trashed to SLI

>>61148790
>Implying /biz/ runs any farms
They speculate with money. They aren't smart enough to run their own farms.

>>61148790

What bubble?

>>61148782
35-40 is ok plus ur cpu is about to RIP anyway or at least be upgraded soon

what do u care

>>61148795
>what programs are good to monitor my cpu and gpu?
CPUID HWMonitor

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So it seems my new build is one disaster after another.

Had to my RMA my Zotac GTX 1070 Mini after it died. It failed their testing and they sent me out a replacement. Just got my replacement, put it in the top x16 slot, no display. I assumed they sent me another dead card, but then I put it in my bottom x16 slot (x4 actually, it says) and I get display. So it seems like my top x16 slot died. This doesn't make sense, because before I RMA'd my GPU the top slot worked with my old 750 Ti. Did it die while not being in use? I tried blowing it out and re-seating the GPU several times, it only works on the bottom slot.

Can someone give me some advice?

>>61148825

ty

>>61148821
>RIP or be upgraded
How do you know this? If it's fine to leave as is that's cool but I'm hoping to keep this rig for at least another 2+ years

>>61148782
I'm just going to put this out there, older thermal paste might be fine to leave on for years at a time, but newer thermal paste that are out there have better thermal transfer. I use to be a laptop fag and I had it for about 3 years before I finally changed the thermal paste because the warranty ran out. I switched to thermal grizzly and supposedly it had artic silver 5 on it before hand. My temps dropped down to 40 at idle from 60, and under load it never goes above 70 when it use to reach 90-100s. Yes laptop cooling is horrible but in that situation heat transfer needs to be the best it can be and it made a whole world of difference. So you might not need new thermal paste, but keeping up with the improvements they've made is what matters.

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>>61148825

what did my PC mean by this?

>127°

>>61147836
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Liamc117/saved/8CtGXL
Go for 8GB ram instead of 16GB. Use the extra money for a 500GB SSD.

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>>61148983
TURN IT OFF ANON

>>61148983
sensor could be fucked since it doesn't at all look like its changing temps. cool random parts around your pc with an ice cube till it lowers to find the source of the problem

>>61149008
lol fuck no don't listen to this guy. Certain games like gtav and fallout 4 benefit on more ram. Even though I have 16gb sometimes I get a ram issue with faggot4 overloading it. 8gb would be shit.

>>61148983
this is normal for intel

>>61149042
thats his board you dumbass. his cpu temps are in the 30s

>>61147713
semen really works

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>>61148983
>>61149012
>>61149016
>>61149042

Where do I find the responding sensor?

Also it says my GPU is at 57° yet its fan is not running. Is this normal? It starts running when I start a game for example though.

Also pic related. Where do I get a dust cover for that? Amazon does not have anything and so does everybody else. Because it is obviously supposed to take a cover, right?

>>61147713
p-prove him wrong, /g/!!!
>>61143267
>>61143267
>>61143267

>>61149073
is that a corsair case? i just bought that one if it is. the 400c. the top should have a magnetic dust cover, did you lose it or something?

>>61149073
>Where do I find the responding sensor?
It's going to be somewhere near a major component on the mainboard.

>my GPU is at 57° yet its fan is not running. Is this normal?
57 is a little high to be idling, but the fan speed would be entirely dependent on how the manufacturer set the fan speed profile. I wouldn't be too worried about it.

>>61148940
Thanks man, I'm just gonna leave it for now and maybe do it later; that screw is pissing me off

>>61149114
put paper towels around everything except the screw and use wd40 on it and let it sit. should break loose at some point. the rust would worry me about it spreading.

>>61149102

No it is a 270R, Corsair

>>61149112

Thanks. probably activates at 60°

>>61149123
Its isolated rust from spending a few weeks up here at the coast; literally one street back from the beach house sitting. Fuck salt air, never getting a coastal property. I'll give that a try at a later date; every place around me is out of thermal paste

>>61149172
https://www.amazon.com/Thermal-Grizzly-Kryonaut-Grease-Paste/dp/B011F7W3LU/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498793166&sr=8-1&keywords=thermal+grizzly

whenever you do

>>61148727
Finally bought all the parts I wanted except the video card.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qQtBRG

>>61148727
What? No it isn't.

HOLY SHIT. I found a place that has 1060 6GB for 350AUD. Do I get it?

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Frogs BTFO
>>61142272

You literally CAN'T build a better PC

>>61149008
Nobody listen to this chucklefuck. Even phone games want eight gigs. 16 is the bare minimum.

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Is there a good chance that there will be older model gpus on sale on prime day?

Looking to upgrade my 560 and drive my third monitor. Possibly a 1050, and if not a 460.

>>61149210

if you are a mine sweeper pro gamer this is your first choice for sure

>>61148795
>NAS
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network-attached_storage

>WD
Western Digital
>Reds and Blues
Are different models

What kind of clocks could I expect on a R5 1600 OC using the stock cooler? Using after market cooling, what's reasonable to hit?

>>61149320

Thanks m8

>>61149349
all ryzens are stuck @4ghz max

By the way does anybody know if there is a cover for this? >>61149073
The Corsair shop says no.

This is not the right thing, right? http://www.corsair.com/de-de/carbide-270r-psu-filter

>>61149374
Yeah I know that. I'm just wondering what it usually takes to get there. Are the majority able to get there with good cooling? Or is it hit and miss?

>>61149394
Stock cooler is almost always sufficient.
These chips aren't really that hot.
If you wanna go 1600x+after mkt then ur usual 35$ ones are more than enough

What is the best GTX 1050 ti?

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Spent three hours taking new computer and old computer apart.
Current results:
>GTX 1080
Works in old computer (won't launch games because of direct x failure, but I assume that's because the old GPU drivers are still installed)
>new PSU:
Works, had to shift it over to old computer to get it to work with GPU (650 W psu vs 350 W psu).
>new monitor
works and is so pretty
>new 1TB HDD
Detected and ready to format
>new 240GB SSD
detected and ready to format

Untested/possibly issue:
>32 GB 3200 MHz GSKILL RAM (not on mobo QVL)
>16 GB of Corsair Vengeance LED 3200Mhz (not on mobo QVL)
>16 GB 2800 MHz of HyperX... something, that is explicitly on QVL

>case

>Ryzen 1600 GPU/stock cooler (cooler will appear to run, no reason to think it doesn't work)

>A320M Pro4 mobo (dead)
>AB350M Pro4 mobo (???)

How do I test a mobo and a CPU?
Can I test DDR4 RAM on old computer's slot (which are labeled DDR3?) I assume those aren't compatible?

What the fuck do I do, I've already spent too much on this. Should I just shell out for a new Case/Mobo/CPU bundle or something? Just give up and find someone to assemble it for me?

>>61149599
somebody pls halp

>>61149619
What is the problem?

Who here actually reports sales tax to big brother?

>>61149753
lol

>pay ISP that pays taxes on that revenue
>shipping company pays fuel taxes
>site pays taxes
>state somehow thinks they're entitled to a percentage of a purchase that doesn't involve them in anyway
Yeah fuck that. Sales tax is a scam anyways, because everything is already taxed. I'm not giving you more money for the TV I bought in Montana or the GPU I bought online.

>>61149839
Retarded burger

>>61149859
>accepting the tax cock down your throat
I hope you feel good about being robbed so your "leaders" can take 500k salaries and give kickbacks to companies they're friends with.

Is it weird that i want to my pc to be as loud as possible? How do i maximize volume? What are the loudest type of fan? No troll, genuinely curious

>>61149926
Yes.

How will you be able to tell when parts physically deteriorate?

>>61149926
Buying a beeper, connect it to your mobo, write a program that makes it beep every second.

>>61149740
Can't reach bios. No chiptone on startup. No way of confirming that my RAM, CPU, or motherboard are functional. Build doesn't work when assembled.

Anyone know what Amazon's return policies are like?

>>61149884
The internet exists because of taxes

>>61149947
Amazon has great return policies, if you can't figure out what is wrong, send everything back/

Cheapest 1080p monitor that's worth buying?

What's a cheap practical full-ATX case?

Where's a decent place to compare cases?

What's the difference between DIMM 1, 2, 4 ratings on mobo/RAM?

>>61149962
Yes, but not retarded state sales taxes you fucking mongoloid, which was my fucking point.

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Can someone name a Ryzen motherboard that can tolerate 3200MHz memory WITHOUT overclocking?

>>61150273
None.
All DDR4 ram above 2133mhz is overclocked.

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>30C core temp drop after delidding

>>61150299
DELID THIS

>>61150299
where did you buy your delidder? I've been looking but can only find them off sketchy websites

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>ETH crashing again

>>61150312
I just used a vice, it was kind of scary to do but it works fine.

Made some really horrible crunching noises when I clamped the IHS down over the die in the motherboard, thought it was fucked but I guess it was just the liquid metal shit moving around.

>>61150358
>>61150312
Also forgot to say, don't use a vice if you're on Skylake or newer, I believe the PCB is too thin and will snap.

>>61150299
>delidding
wat

>>61150385
Intel are jews and deliberately use shit thermal compound between the die of the CPU and the metal headspreader, instead of just soldering them. People separate the two, replace the shit thermal compound with something better, then put them back together.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnSXeQn6www

>>61150335
It will bounce back.

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>>61150281
d'oh. good to know.
So once that say they'll support 3200 (OC) should take 3200 Mhz RAM without any modification necessary? (Like, I don't need to go and manually overclock it or anything?)

>>61150471
No. It needs to be rated for 3200 mhz as well as be on your Mobo's QVL. There has been cases where anon's here bought 3200mhz that ran a lot lower because they are not on the QVL.

>>61147713
So it looks like Vega is gonna be DOA.
Tired of waiting for it, should I just get a 1080 considering 1070 prices are retarded atm?

Is there any way to get windows 10 for free?

>>61150624
pirating

>>61150624
Pirate it.

>>61150583
Yes.

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Is this a good cpu to use with the rest of this build or should i get a different one? If it is good to get do i need a cpu cooler for it?

>>61150668
>280 dollars for a 1060
That is some literal daylight robbery here folks.

>>61150646
>>61150648
How does one go about pirating it? Janky russian sites?

>>61150684
I didnt buy it yet but what is considered a good price for it the lowest I've seen was $250

>>61150704
Download the official ISO off MS and install it. Activating it would require a program from janky sites.
If you are a student you can check if your school offers MS suite for free.
Or if you are lazy and paranoid just pay 10~25 dollars to grey market sites for a legit key.

>>61150717
240~250 is a fair price. 280 is not.

So what is a good GTX 1050 Ti card?
I had my eye set on the EVGA SSC with two fans:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/D44NnQ/evga-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-ssc-gaming-acx-30-video-card-04g-p4-6255-kr

But now it's sold out everywhere, so my eyes are set on the single fan version:
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/Cm38TW/evga-geforce-gtx-1050-ti-4gb-sc-gaming-acx-20-video-card-04g-p4-6253-kr

Is there much of a difference? Two fans would spin slower, so quieter? The smaller one allows for more air flow through the case?
Is there another brand of 1050 Ti that's better? And in stock?

>>61151064
More fans generally = better

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($199.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Motherboard: ASRock - Fatal1ty AB350 Gaming K4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($103.98 @ Newegg)
Memory: Corsair - Vengeance LPX 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory ($125.27 @ NCIX US)
Storage: Western Digital - Blue 500GB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($149.94 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: EVGA - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti 4GB ACX 2.0 Video Card ($144.89 @ B&H)
Case: Corsair - 200R ATX Mid Tower Case ($46.99 @ Newegg)
Power Supply: EVGA - SuperNOVA G3 650W 80+ Gold Certified Fully-Modular ATX Power Supply ($88.49 @ OutletPC)
Total: $859.55

>tfw everything is shipped and it'll all get to my house on Monday
>tfw first build

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Alright so assuming i did a straightforward and successful win7 sysprep transfer of my current HDD into an otherwise completely new build, would i then be able (after re-activating the OS license, installing new hardware drivers and everything) to afterwards clone that freshly migrated HDD aka the OS on it to another (preferably larger) new HDD in that same exact build?

>/watch?v=qYK-C4rIxrI

^ Basically what this guy does with Paragon Hard Disk Manager but literally the only difference in my case here would be that the OS was already sysprepped once and just migrated whereas his one presumably never was - But that fact shouldn't impair the cloning process at all, right?

The reason i'm asking is because none of these other imaging applications (macrium, acronis et al) seem to have free functionality included to restore an already sysprepped image to a completely new HDD on a new machine, they all want you to pay up for pro licenses and shit.

So yeah in a nutshell rather than opting for that whole imaging route i'm now instead trying to migrate the old HDD with the OS on it to the new build via sysprep first (so that i don't have to use any imaging/restoration software at all/only have to use sysprep once for the initial transfer into the new build) and then clone the successfully migrated old HDD/OS to the new HDD in the new build so that i can keep using the cloned OS on the newer and larger HDD from then on instead.

Is there any reason this possibly wouldn't work out?

I have 340 to spend on a budget build, what's the bet i can do minus a Storage Drive and peripherals. For gaming and i dont mind running everything on low, as long as i get locked 60.

>>61148095
>also u're assuming AM4 will top out @ 8 cores for some reason

Wait so the AM4 platform will allow for more than 8c/16t CPUs? I was expecting it to allow for the next generation Ryzen CPUs but not for anything higher than 8cores?

>>61151184
next generation Ryzen CPUs could increase the number of cores, though i doubt it considering how big Threadripper CPUs are

>>61151064
The dual fan would spin slower and the single fan will indeed allow for slightly better airflow in the case but that's pretty irrelevant. The 1050ti doesn't heat much regardless so going for the single-fan is perfectly fan, i mean those EVGA ones don't even have power connectors because they get enough power from the PCIe.

>>61149203
No idea of AUD prices but if it's lower than usual, not counting mining craze prices, then sure
Not like you're gonna get your hand on a cheaper one nor on an RX 580 anyway

>>61151179
Lose hope or look for good deals on used parts. You're not going to get anything that can run new games at 60fps for that money.

>>61151184
It's possible that Zen2 will have 6-core CCXs, at which point it's likely we'll see 12-cores on AM4.

>>61150624
>windows 10

>>61150624
just download it off Microsoft's website. There's a tool that will make a USB installer. The flash drive has to be 4 GB minimum. It'll install whatever Windows 10 operating system version you want, and you don't have to enter a product key. There is an option for it, but it isn't mandatory. The only feature disabled on the free version seems to be desktop personalization options, though you can still change the wallpaper. But yea. no need to pay for Windows when Microsoft will LITERALLY give it to you for free.

>>61151377
wtf I wish I knew this sooner, fuck this linux shit

>>61151389
>fuck this linux shit
wow rude.

>>61151194

My thinking exactly. Why would AMD fuck over everyone who bought TR 16c CPUs by just allowing Ryzen to go 16c as well.

>>61151292

Oh that is quite cool. Makes me think I might go for the 1600(x) instead of the 1700 for a more meaningful upgrade later on.

>>61151416
I like Linux but I don't like having to fuck around with the terminal every time I install a new program. I'll probably just dual boot windows now that I've already installed and configured Linux Mint.

>>61151446
If you don't feel like fucking about with the terminal, you can always use Synaptic, anon.

>>61151480
I do that when I can

>>61151424
I was more thinking about size limitations, Threadripper is huge because it has two Zeppelin in there, fitting that in AM4 without CCX changes would be impossible
They can't keep releasing 8 cores CPU next year though, considering they already released 3 R7 8 cores, one EPYC 8 cores and will probably have one / two Threadripper 8 cores too. If they want to keep being competitive they also have to increase core count seeing as Intel went for 18 cores for the end of this year, whereas Threadripper's limit is 16.

>>61151517
They can if Zen2 comes with 15% higher IPC and higher clocks to boot.

>>61151517

Maybe when they produce at 7nm scale, they can put more cores per CCX at the same die size

>>61151529
Increasing core count for servers is also very important, they can't just stop at 32 cores until 2019 CPUs.

trying to find a cheap low-profile gpu for them cuda cores and vulkan programming

>>61151592
>2017
>cheap gpu

In a weird way, the current GPU stock issues are a blessing. It's giving more time to save up and to get a better GPU in the end. At this rate i'll end up going with a 1080 or it's vega equivalent instead of a 1060 or 580.

>>61151611
1030s are 70$

>>61151650
>

>>61147713
This seems like a good enough place to ask.

I have shitty wiring in the house I'm living in now. No grounding, nothing (in the Philippines )

Will I retain all the benefits of a UPS without a ground and 3rd prong on the ups cord?

>>61151592
I've seen low profile 1050 and 1050Tis - anything below is a joke really.

>>61151642
I know the feeling. I mean I scored a 1060 MSI 6G for $200 but im actually glad I can't drop down on a 1080 and am forced to wait

>>61151671
Have you tried over in /diy/? They might be a better help

>>61151700
Okay, I'll try there. Sorry for the wrong posting

>>61151377
>>61151389
>>61151446
>>61151509
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10

>>61151773
How often does it nag you to buy a key? Is it pretty intrusive?

>>61151773
I'm somewhat surprised they haven't made the "free" version Windows 10S already.

I'm kind of willing to try linux out for a while with my next build - though switching back to windows might be inevitable.

>>61151832
There's a watermark in the lower right hand corner of the desktop asking you to activate it. Beyond that, it doesn't do anything else to piss you off
Windows 10 is a botnet. Remember that. The reason microsoft does this is because They do the same thing Google does and sell your data to advertisers. Regardless of whether you pay for Windows or not, they make money off you.

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>>61151832
It displays a watermark on the desktop all the time but I've heard you can remove it somehow, might be worth investigating, but I have it unactivated on my headless systems and workstations that I usually remote/ssh into anyway.

Other than that it doesn't display popups or anything and you can still get updates if you want them.

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>>61150684
>>61150739
>tfw they sell for $350-400 on ebay right now

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>that feel when found the last retailer online selling g4560 for £50

Wew lads, took some digging

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>>61151064
According to TechDeals it doesn't matter since the 1050 Ti is so weak anyway. I imagine you could always repaste with a better TIM if you want to bring it down a little bit anyway.

>amd ryzen 5 1600 cpu
>msi gtx 1070 gpu
>asrock ab350m pro4 mobo
>Gskill aegis 16 gb ram

do I need a full tower or can everything fit in a midi tower ? i literally have no idea how to find out myself =(

>>61151914
It'll fit in a mid-tower.

I want to raise my tower a few inches off the carpeted ground due to the high pile, is there something I can use that doesn't look like shit/poor that can take 30-40 lbs of weight? Maybe just some big rubber feet or something.

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>>61151962
I diy'ed one of these. But I am sure you can buy one in the market.

>>61151914
the mobo will fix in mATX or bigger, the GPU isn't that large so it should fit in the vast majority of motherboards too, but some may be too tight if the hard drives gets in the way or such.

>>61151989
>in the vast majority of motherboards too,
i meant cases, the vast majority of cases

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>run out of space ony my main HDD
>decide to buy a new one for data only, buy a 1TB that will last me forever
>fill it in several months
>buy another 2TB HDD
>fill it
>Buy another 2TB
>fill it up
WHAT THE FUCK where am i even getting all this data
>Out of space again, but no more physical space in my pc to plug the hdds in
>don't want to use portable HDDs because it's disgusting peasantry
>don't want to build dedicated NAS because i don't have that much data and money
>All of that stored shit is movies, animu, games and tv shows
>I haven't watched 99.9% of them even once since after watching them for the first time and storing them
>Physically unable to force myself to delete any of them, because of my data haorder mental block

There are new movies and games i can't download because i don't have anywhere to store them, what the fuck do i do? I feel trapped and it's starting to take a toll on my mental state.

>>61152000
Delete some shit you fucking spaz, I used to live on 220gb alone.

>>61152000
Build a server drive cage and connect it to your PC physically if you want to be a pleb.

>op pic
some one used semen as thermal paste wut?

what is the difference between orange sata ports and purple sata ports? the manual says the purle ones are gsata what fuck is that even

>>61152000
>don't want to use portable HDDs because it's disgusting peasantry
>don't want to build dedicated NAS because i don't have that much data and money

Its one of those two.
Just copy everything to archive hdds and unplug them, or get money and build a NAS.

i need a 550W psu, how do i choose which one to buy?

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>>61152143
NAS is just too expensive. And portables are just so fucking lame.. having to store them like in a closet somewhere. Currently all my 3 data HDDs are in my case as drawers and i can turn them on with a flick of a switch at any time. Convenient as fuck.

I have nonidea how to build a pc is it even worth trying or will i most likely break something and waste my money?

>>61152224
it's literally expensive lego

>>61152000
A qualified mental health professional can help with the hoarding problem.

>>61152239
This. Work on your mental state, not your hardware.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsive_hoarding

>>61152209
>he doesn't have his hard drives set to sleep until accessed

>>61152281
I hope this is a bad joke. Not only will windows spin them up for no reason all the time, but even in gnu/linux you won't prevent a wastefull spin up during every boot and reboot. This will slice away the lifespan like crazy.

>
>61147713
Hey people so im trying to buy a desktop for the first time and my max budget is 1000 including keyboard and mouse
Desktop prefrence
-able to run gta5 at max settings
-lots of space 1tb+
-windows 10
Things i dont really care for
-flashy light up computers(all i really want for the case is a window maybe a little bit of light inside)
( idk were i shouldve said this but my room gets extremly hot usally in the summer 80° and up im not sure if that will affect how it cools) but any and all comments are welcomed just trying to figure out how to go through with this
Thank you

>>61152209
By building a NAS i obviously mean get some cheap PC mobo with as many sata ports as possible with atom or apu cpu, any decent psu and fill it up with HDDS.
Shit is not expensive at all.

>>61152339
Do you live in a literal sauna? How do you survive that?

Here's the plan for my first build, I'm going to buy the stuff in a couple hours. Am I retarded or missing anything?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/user/Willowbill/saved/tjWHxr

>>61152419
Make sure RAM is compatible.
If you are getting a liquid CPU cooler why not just get the 1600x instead of getting a 1600 and getting an extra useless stock cooler.
Make sure your liquid CPU cooler comes with the AM4 bracket.

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>trying to build a PC
>GTX 1070 going for upwards of 800 bucks

is this a joke? when will the buttcoin meme end?

>>61152379
Lol idk why cali is this hot it sucks

>>61152451
Someone needs to put a buttcoin notice in the OP.
NO IT IS NOT ENDING ANYTIME SOON

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Can someone explain what the (OC) means in the MB specifications?

>2 x DIMM, Max. 32GB, DDR4 3200(O.C.)/2933(O.C.)/2666/2400/2133 MHz ECC and non-ECC, Un-buffered Memory

Do you have to buy RAM at a 2666MHZ frequency and then overclock it yourself or you can just buy stock 3200MHZ RAM?

PLS RESPOND

>>61152479
>>61152479
overclocked

>>61152489

Does that mean that it won't accept RAM with stock clock speeds at 3200MHZ?

>>61152502
it'll accept them but AMD considers anything over 2667 mhz an overclock.

>>61152502
DDR4 stock speed is 2133mhz. Anything above is considered overclock.

>>61152123
gsata is /g/ approved sata ;)

>>61152479
>Do you have to buy RAM at a 2666MHZ frequency and then overclock it yourself or you can just buy stock 3200MHZ RAM?
You can always buy faster RAM than the motherboard supports, it just means the RAM will not necessarily run at those speeds.

>>61152517
Ah got it thanks

>>61152526
It will if it is on the QVL.

>>61152152
pick one from a known brand, aim for decent efficiency (bronze / silver) at the very least, and it should be fine. we'll tell you if the specific model is shit anyway, but there is too much difference between PSUs to look out for specific things unless you have very good knowledge about them

>>61152517
AMD officially supports up to 2666MHz*
Anything over 2133 is an overclock

>>61152559
amd considers 1666 mhz normal, not an overclock. Ryzen supports up to 3200 mhz, with some special occasions having supported 3600 mhz

>>61152575
>1666
2666*

>>61152575
There isn't a specific limit, Ryzen supports whatever it happens to be able to run, although the official spec is 2666MHz

>>61152581

So if I buy a ram with 3200mhz speed it will autimatically downclock to whatever it can run?

>>61152612
correct. The recent AGESA update for bios's has greatly expanded ram compatibility though.

>>61152559
>Anything over 2133 is an overclock

This isn't true. The JEDEC spec for DDR4 includes both "regular" and "enthusiast" variants, with the baseline speed for the latter being 3200MHz.

>>61148561
Try changing the orientation. Vertical atm so try sticker side up in the case. And then upside down. HDDs can also "burn in" - get reliable and silent after a while.

What's with the sudden influx of brainlets posting?
>"What's the best power supply"
>"Do I need a full tower?"
What's next? Needing someone to tell you how to tie your shoe?!

>>61148338
WTF. Is this real?

>>61152379
Hes lying, humans can't survive temperatures above 70 for more than few minutes

>>61152922
1. Yes
2. They've been doing this forever. They run 'intel education programs' on retail employees to teach them the value of intel products.

>>61152946
No, that only applies to subhuman scum. It's why saunas were invented, to get rid of those.

>>61149203
WHERE?

https://pcpartpicker.co/list/v6vF6X

'sup anons I'm gonna buy this PC what is your opinion/thoughts?

>>61148157
Leaks don't mean anything, especially if they are done with a shitty psu, cpu and an old gimped driver

>>61152877
Really cheap CPUs which make 1080p gaming a reality also its summer.

>>61149053
He was referring to the new x299 fireboards

>>61147813
I am about to (two systems, one for gaming) since I have found a lot of little software incompatibilities that effect things if I just use one god box. So, current 6700k build will get updated for for high end gaming only (essentially same performance as a 7700k) and will build a new system for everything else.

Serious question:
What should I expect when I first boot everything up? Will things like drivers be installed automatically? It's my first PC build and I'm not sure what to expect beyond the physical set up.

>>61153218
Why don't you just wait for Coffee Lake / Zen2?
Games will soon be gimped by quad cores

Need a little help.

This is my system;

MSI gaming z170 m3
I5 6600k
R9 390
Ssd 250gb
8gb ddr4 ram
Cx 750m psu

What I want to do is add an HD 7970 lightning BE, replace my psu to a bigger one and mine ethereum with that system. I'm currently pulling 33.1 MH/s @ 1171 core clock, no overvolt @ 73 °C max. What I'm worried is what psu will I need and how much will the 2 cards heat each other(also, is there a way to extend the gpu slot so they're not that close?)

Any help?

>>61153234
>is there a way to extend the gpu slot
Yes.
>what psu will I need
Google psu calculator

>>61153248
Alright, 853W with some rounded towards up calcs. Suggest me a psu.

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>>61147713
>semens
>32°C
If semen is such a great TIM then how comes Intel i7-7700K melts with it under the lid?
BOOOM ya'll just got LIT UP niggas!

>>61147713
Hey is ebay affected by America's black friday thingy? Do prices typically drop nearing christmas?
I know people list there own prices but yeah. Also does anyone know why theres such a big import tax from america now?(Is this Trumps doing)1080p/1440p.

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>>61147713
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming

Absolute kek. Until it bottlenecks in CPU intensive games.

When will you put a 6700k/7700k in that post?

I need build for bitcoin mining. Which cpu and gpu should I get?

My overall budget is 1800bucks for entire pc

>>61153389
>CPU intensive games
I think you meant poorly optimized DX11 games

>>61153233
Not waiting for Coffee Lake, from what I have seen I do no see Intel getting better than a 6700k/ 7700k for current/older gaming for a while, if ever. I already have a good system that a couple years old (6700k with Titan X Maxwell), will be upgraded with a Z270 (early Z170 I have DPC latency issues that I cannot fix through updated drivers) and 1080ti of some sort.

Second system will be a Ryzen 7 of some sort (probably an 1800x with a real mild overclock (going quiet aircooled)) with the Titan X Maxwell. I fortunately have the means to build a second system without selling my first.

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>>61153389
>Absolute kek. Until it bottlenecks in CPU intensive games.
what. The 1600 is better with CPU intensive games you shill. Stop drinking the kool aid. You need that shit to cool your intel...
>pic related
Oh. Nevermind. Too late.

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>>61153435
>i-it's just unoptimized dx11 games!!!

>>61153233
If games that I play do start to use multicore more (jury still out on that), by the time that happens can upgrade the Ryzen CPU if needed (since its AM4 for the foreseeable future). If not just switch the systems around.

>>61153457
>argues about 1600
>1600 not on his list

Creating early because changes needed to be made

>>61153748
>>61153748
>>61153748

That other idiot might come and sperg about some sort of 7700k shilling and all, ignore him and everything will go well.

>>61153752
>>61153882
>Reminder to report all Intel shills. These threads will continue misleading inexperienced builders until you do.
Like pottery

>>61152000
>don't want to build dedicated NAS because i don't have that much data and money
>i don't have that much data
But you do retard.

If I would upgrade my system what would be the better choice a Ryzen 7 1700x or an i7-7700k.
They cost the same and I would have to upgrade my motherboard and ram for both.
At the moment I'am running an i7-3770, and a GTX 1070 which I will probably upgrade when the GTX 1270 shows up or something in that direction.

>>61155558
>Ryzen 7 1700x or an i7-7700k.
>They cost the same and I would have to upgrade my motherboard and ram for both.
Yeah no, they don't cost the same if you consider all related costs.
First, get the 1700 non X and OC it so it will be just as good as the 1700X.
Secons, mobos. For the 7700K you need an expensive >$120 board while the 1700 can get away with $80 ones.
Third, cooling. If you want to run the 7700K you will need to delid it and replace it's semen TIM with liquid metal and buy some expensive cooler.
This will cost you about $150-200. The 1700 comes with a decent cooler that's good enough for slight OC, if you really want to push it you're fine with a high-end air cooler for $80, that's like half the cost.
The rest including PSU and RAM will be similar if not the same.
Note that the 7700K is on an already dead platform with no upgrade path while AM4 will last until approx 2020.

>>61155695
Will AM4 actually get another generation cpu after ryzen?
An AM4 350 board is €90 here but I should get a X370 I guess which is €130 for the cheapest that isn't ASROCK or Biostar.
Would I be able to OC the 1700 to 1700x performance with an EVO 212?
The price difference is only €30 between the 1700 and 1700X so is it really worth getting the cheaper one? I'am afraid it wont be much of an upgrade over the I7-3770 especially the single core performance.
Altough I don't know how much single core performance maters at the moment.