/tpg/ - Thinkpad General

Are there any decent third party batteries for a xx20 out there? Lenovo-brand replacements seem to be nonexistent down under.

uno for clean your keyboards lads

>>61141047
You either get a original one or a chink one.

pick your poison

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What would be my CPU upgrade options on this one?

ark.intel says the T1300 has the same socket as dual core yonahs and meroms, but is there anything more to it?

inb4
>why would you bother with something so deprecated
I can get this machine for peanuts. Why not.

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Just bought a T530 for 250€

>>61141065

is there a guide or something on how to do it?

>>61141108
Nice going. Plan on replacing the keyboard or leaving it as-is?

>>61141118
Learn chinese my friend.

>>61141057
I just take the entire keyboard apart and blast it all with boiling hot tap water
cleans EVERYTHING out, its great

>>61141080
Best is the Core2Duo T7600, the 2.33ghz 4mb one
Comparable to a Core2Duo E6700

>>61141157
o-ok

>>61141129
Leaving it for now

>>61141159
>not submerging it in a tub or isopropyl alcohol

it's like you like cum on you keyboard lad

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-X230-Core-i5-2-60GHz-4GB-128GB-SSD-Webcam-Windows-7-Pro-Laptop-/152603490707?hash=item2387e07993:g:GfsAAOSw8HBZHW7t#viTabs_0

>i5 2.6ghz in title
>i7 2.6ghz in specifics
>i7 2.9ghz in description

Goddamn sellers.

>>61141246
I dont cum on my thinkpads
i have too much respect for them
and some of them are rare as shit so cumming on them would make me look like a fool in the community of retards with glawk fowty housefires

>>61141211
But will it sure work plug and play in this particular T60? Or could there be some, idunno, bios issues or whatever?

>>61141248
for the price it might as well be the i5, if its an i7 thats just a bonus
go for it, and hope for the best, worst case scenario you can dispute it if theres any issues because its technically a misleading listing

>>61141271
>I dont cum on my thinkpads
LMAO

Look at this casual

>>61141245
Tell us how it goes. Our older models won't last forever.
>>61141248
>Got mine for a good price, within a 20 minute drive, from a local seller, the day the listing went up, from a kid that clearly took lovely care of his laptop
I think god wanted me to have a t420 compared to some of the trouble people have.

>>61140985
My libreboot x60 has a windows key. Can I get a GNU key for thinkpad x60.

>>61141248
https://ark.intel.com/products/64896/Intel-Core-i5-3320M-Processor-3M-Cache-up-to-3_30-GHz

https://ark.intel.com/products/64893/Intel-Core-i7-3520M-Processor-4M-Cache-up-to-3_60-GHz

>>61141300

Apparently they're basically the same goddamn CPU.

>>61141307
probably, maybe, stop the autism, just put a sticker on it.

>>61141108
>windows 10
why

>>61141272
The 7600 is the highest supported processor

http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel_(chipsets)/945PM_Express.html
http://www.cpu-upgrade.com/mb-Intel_(chipsets)/945GM_Express.html
http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T60

Both possible chipsets support it, the thinkwiki page lists the 2.33ghz core2duo as supported

>>61141316
all mobile intel cpus that aren't quadcores are the same chip but with different clock speeds and more or less cache enabled.

>>61141337
not him but just installed windows 10 ltsb 2015 on a shitpad and it just werks.

>>61141377
again, why

>>61141361
Are there any with 4c/8t on older Thinkpads? 2000-4000 series all seem to be 2c4t.

Why are old Thinkpads so goddamn good? Why is it impossible to find a simple, good laptop these days?

>>61141389
because it just werks,

>>61141396
any i7 QM is 4c/8t

I think

Budget:<£100
Location:UK
Size:Any
Performance:Basic shit
Other requirements:I've got a broken 2010 Macbook Pro with a Core 2 Duo. I just need something better than that for cheap enough compared to replacing the battery on this.

>>61141337
>windows Ultimate tweaker

thank me later

>>61141337
windows 10 is the best OS on the market, why not?

Budget: $120
Looking for: X230 (that doesnt look like shit)
Texas

>>61141442
First thing to do is check local sites like Gumtree and Craigslist, then maybe local sellers on ebay. Local markets can be fucky, report back on what you find.

>>61141442
Thinkpad T410
You can get one in great shape with an i5, 4gb of ram, windows installed for about 100 USD
Drop down a bit in cosmetic shape if you can deal with a bump, scratch or whatever and you can get em for like 70 USD
T400 is also a good choice since theyre like 60 USD but youre back at core2duo level

>>61141439
Aye, looks to be the case. Thanks anon.

>>61141442
Whatever you get, also buy a cheapo second hand ssd.

>>61141555
i wouldnt put an ssd high on the priority list at that budget
ive got a 5400rpm hdd and thats just fine for shitposting and old games, im not getting annoyed by the machine being slow or anything

>>61141478
Literally nothing on Craiglist, and nothing worth mentioning on Gumtree.

It had one of these though, which is adorable.

http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1787983,00.asp

>>61141486
Aye, I'd like to avoid the core2duo. I'll look out for t410s, thanks.

>>61141555
Not sure I care enough about this laptop to do that immediately desu, but thanks.

>>61141609
That can be an issue. I lucked out and found a bargain the day I started looking, most find themselves waiting a few weeks or even a few months. How urgently do you need the laptop?

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>>61141609
you should pick up that poor t43 anyway desu
theyre good for browsing /g/ and playing Halo
pic related, my t42

>>61141634
Not urgent.

>>61141651
Showing that classic some love is a pretty decent thing.
>>61141658
Then it might be an idea to wait around a little while. Thinkpads last like no other laptop, so if you only plan on buying the one you don't want to settle. Then again, they're often cheap enough to be able to justify multiple purchases.

>>61141396
>not known about the 4 core CPU mod on T61
Look at this pleb

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>he doesnt own a thinkpad G40
what kind of plebs are you?
dont you want a beefy multi fan cooler in your machine that handles 80w processors?

>>61141439
>>61141396

A T530 looks like the cheapest thing that'll fit your bill.

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i have to ask for the last time before i pull the trigger on this deal. replacing my modded t430 with an x230 (i7, 8G ram, 120G ssd) for 300 usd (in europe). is it worth it? i am planning to replace the keyboard if i buy the x230. will i regret it in terms of screen resolution downgrade?

I'm planning to install Parabola GNU+linux-libre on m'y future T530. Does it support Libreboot ? Is it hard to flash a BIOS with those coreboot things ?

>>61141421
GNU+Linux just works also, but it doesn't mistreat you, it's more secure, you can tailor it exactly according to your needs and wants and it will obey your every command
it's pure waifu material
windows is a dumb aids ridden, cum guzzling, cheating whore with plastic tits that treats you like garbage and who's primary goal is to control you and milk your cash while also infecting you with all kinds of diseases she got from niggers that used her as a cum dumpster in your bedroom and stole your tv on their way out

>>61141337
T530 buyer here. I'm not gonna use Windows, I'm planning to install Parabola like said on post upstair ^^^

>>61141442
>>61141486
>>61141609
Latitude E6410 is a decent alternative to T410, too. Both of them have the option of 1440x900 screens, but they seem to be more common among the dells.

>>61141345
Thanks for the cpu-upgrade.com, didn't know of it. Guess I should trust what it says then.
I checked the thinkwiki before I posted, but somehow wasn't sure whether those T60 that shipped with solo yonahs have exactly the same motherboards and bios as the upper range ones and would support the meroms.

>>61141704
chink G42 motherboard when?

>>61142156
I would kill for something like that, imagine the G40 but with something like a 65w i5 or a Pentium G4560
8-16gb of ddr4, integrated would be a must unless they could slap something on there in the place of the chipset so the cooler could handle it
maybe something like a mobile quadro or gt 1030 in bga form on there
slap in a 1440 x 1080 screen and youre golden

>>61140985
Hi guys,

today I bought my first thinkpad and I'm extremely happy with it, keys are lovely, the clit feels great, all the bells and whistles.

One problem, though. The X220 has hardware keys and the Debian Stretch system can't see them as XF86 keys. What do, guise?

This is what it throws at me when I press volume up.

FocusIn event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xcc,
mode NotifyGrab, detail NotifyInferior

KeymapNotify event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0x0,
keys: 4294967237 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8
0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0

CreateNotify event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xcc,
parent 0xcc, window 0x600146, (-100,-100), width 1, height 1
border_width 0, override YES

ClientMessage event, serial 18, synthetic YES, window 0x600146,
message_type 0x152 (_NET_STARTUP_INFO_BEGIN), format 8

ClientMessage event, serial 18, synthetic YES, window 0x600146,
message_type 0x153 (_NET_STARTUP_INFO), format 8

ClientMessage event, serial 18, synthetic YES, window 0x600146,
message_type 0x153 (_NET_STARTUP_INFO), format 8

ClientMessage event, serial 18, synthetic YES, window 0x600146,
message_type 0x153 (_NET_STARTUP_INFO), format 8

ClientMessage event, serial 18, synthetic YES, window 0x600146,
message_type 0x153 (_NET_STARTUP_INFO), format 8

DestroyNotify event, serial 18, synthetic NO, window 0xcc,
event 0xcc, window 0x600146

FocusOut event, serial 20, synthetic NO, window 0xcc,
mode NotifyUngrab, detail NotifyInferior
^C

>>61142366
why redditors are so eager to post without actually trying to fix the problem themselves?
is it entitlement?
>help me!!
is it just being retard?

>>61142410
Sorry, should've added

AFTER TRYING TO FIX THE FUCKING THING FOR 2 HOURS

I fixed my XF86Mute button, at least. But I don't know what to do when it doesn't even show me any keys I could maybe put into Xmodmap or something.

>>61142366
I know shit about tweaking Linux and have no idea about your error, so this is not a quality comment, but on my E6410 the volume keys just work on Ubuntu (which is Debian based) and I think they did on my X200 too.
Also, try asking /flt/ maybe?

>>61142512
Thanks :-)

I am sorry for asking here, the second I hit post I saw "SQT" and "FGLT" in front of my eyes.;

How many x220 palmrest have you guys gone through? im buying my 4th one

>>61142453
>AFTER TRYING TO FIX THE FUCKING THING FOR 2 HOURS
You didn't try long enough.

>>61141751
It depends entirely on what you're doing, I've gone from T60p to X220 to X230, and up until now I've been fine with the resolution, but what I want out of my laptop is changing because I'll be putting my desktop back together again, and no longer have need for something maxed out but with a tiny footprint. As such I'm going to get an X301 or T430s.

If you're using Linux 1366x768 is ok. It feels a little claustrophobic in windows though, I can't use a web browser and feel satisfied that I'm seeing enough of the page (and it is a world of difference to my 1440p monitor.) I should install that old mod where the titlebar and tab bar are combined I guess.

Performance wise my X230 has never let me down. A 3520m, 16gb ram and an eGPU will make you a happy anon if that's your priority.

Also the screen viewing angles are great with the IPS, the colours are far from vibrant, but you'll never have problems seeing what you're doing or looking at content lying in bed at an awkward angle. And it's LED so you don't ever have to worry about the colour temperature shifting over time (I'd love an X61s but it's clear that CCFLs aren't a good idea around 8 years after original release.)

Hope that helps.

what's the difference between t420 and t420s?

>>61143195
smaller, soldered cpu, ...

>>61143242
is that good or bad?

>>61141609
>>61141442
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Thinkpad-T410s-Laptop-Intel-Core-i5-M520-2-40Ghz-4GB-250GB-C1-/352087873088?hash=item51fa129640:g:v2YAAOSwq~tZQVo-

Here you go anon, not much damage, just a bit of scuffing. Go at it with some soapy water and a bit of kitchen towel and it'll clean up nicely. Has 4gb and a nice i5, and is the slim model because why schlepp around all the extra weight when the price's the same.

>>61143254
Overall bad.

>>61143254
If you want to upgrade the CPU at some point, it's bad. Otherwise there's no difference and the device overall is much thinner (practically the same as an x-series) and lighter.

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What do you use for scrolling?
Two fingers, edge or circular?

is it possible to swap out the quadro 1000m in a w520 for a 2000m?

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come on you pricks BUILD THE DAMN THING

Budget: 500 $ or below
Location: Germany
Size: doesn't really matter if its portable and not too small
Performance: Ill just use it for coding ( Atom ), and Ill install BSD/LINUX with wm only.
Other requirements: portability, libreboot support, fat keyboard would be prefered.

Looking to upgrade my laptop at work, using an old HP Probook 840 G1. Work is a mix of IT, DBA, sysadmin and report/dashboard creation. Going to need at least 1080p IPS, 8+ gb ram, lots of ports including ethernet, hdmi/displayport and usb.

HP Elitebook is out due to the crappy screen. Convince me on why (and which) Thinkpad I should get instead of a Dell Latitutde E7470 (7480 lacking mechanical docking is a big no-no).

>>61143462
ebay has a ton of germans selling thinkpads used from businesses

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>>61143400
hahahahaha
be patient

someones t470 order on another site i browse

>>61143551
christ does he live in the middle of the Amazon or something?

>>61143326
Trackoint

>>61143613
Spain
on an unrelated note, i just discovered ctrl + s makes a spoiler thing?
[spoiler] neat [/spoiler]

>>61143692
gb2 to /v/ fag

>>61143692
weird
I >>61143400 ordered a custom T470 and it's only being shipped to the UK. I wonder why it takes an extra month to ship to Spain.

>>61143748
Im not sure, he didnt list his config besides having 16gb of ram
maybe he picked something weird they have to source
or it might just be an overestimate

Whats a good laptop bag for an x230?

>>61143948
>laptop bag
>for an x2**
why? it fits in any backpack, even in smaller shoulder bags

>>61143948
>>>/fa/
there's a section for bags in the sticky, some of those bags have padded laptop sleeves

I know the guide says to avoid E series laptops, but for £250 would a Thinkpad E540 with an i7 4702MQ, 8GB of RAM and a 1TB HDD be worth picking up?

>>61143466
You do realize 840 G1 has 1080p IPS screen option, right?
>HP Elitebook is out due to the crappy screen.
wew lad.

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SSD upgrade for a X230: should I look for SATA or mSATA hdds?
(apparently, the answer is mSATA, but please someone confirm)

>>61144423
do you want 2 drives or 1 drive in the laptop

>>61143124
thanks for the detailed reply. in the end i decided to keep my t430. i have spent too much energy on modding it and i want to continue that. it is going to make an excellent machine for many years i am sure.

>>61144467
2: ssd for the os and programs, keep the original normal hdd for the rest.

>>61144281
thats a good price for it, considering they were new 2 years ago for like 900 pounds
just note that with an E series you lose a lot of premium features mainly related to build quality, i/o and the materials used
but when it comes to used, doesnt matter too much, except for how long you expect it to last
in 2015 a T440 with an i3 and no dgpu was 900 pounds, the e540 with the i7 and gtx 940m was the same price

>>61144507
well there u go

although I went this path and ended up just ditching the HDD, the extra noise/vibrations/power consumption was not really worth it

but you can get used Samsung 840/850 EVO mSATA drives off of Ebay for cheap, you can also get mSATA to 2.5" drive adapters for cheap too

>>61144585
I'm looking for a Thinkpad because of the brand status, I think i'll probably stay away from that then. I'm in no rush, I'm sure i'll be able to find other nice ones that aren't E series.

>>61144635
is it true that it must be an msata if you want to install an os and be able to boot from it?
(i read some conflicting info on some forums, somebody said that if the extra hdd is not on msata, it won't appear as a bootable device in bios)

>>61144826
on my x230 everything's bootable.

You'll want the boot drive to be the 2.5", because the mSata is limited to SATAII, whereas the 2.5" is full SATAIII.

>>61143326
Page up and down.
Also home and end

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>>61144826
no it doesn't matter the mSATA drive works as a normal hard drive

you might have to change the boot order in the BIOS, but it all works like normal

>>61144922
speed difference is pretty negligible

Does anyone have experience with an x220t? Just wondering how you feel about the touch screen and what not. I was about to buy an x220 when I saw the tablet version, still haven't made up my mind. I know the t doesn't have the think light but is there much else that its missing?

>>61145217
it's bigger and weighs more than non-tablet, also could only get 6-cell batteries while non-tablet can get 9-cell

>>61144635
>you can also get mSATA to 2.5" drive adapters for cheap too
I have experiences with that and i can say: Buy a real ssd for the SATA III, because this adaptors don't do his job properly

>>61145290
mSATA SSD's are real SSD's

you got a shitty drive or shitty adapter

>>61145343
850 evo msata, and a shitty adapter i think. what adapter u recommends?

>>61145419
I have
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B013W3RA3G
and it works fine BUT it is slightly over 7mm tall, it makes for a very tight fit, few reviews complaining about that

maybe try
https://www.amazon.com/Sabrent-2-5-Inch-Aluminum-Enclosure-EC-MSSA/dp/B01MS6669V

Is swapping an i7 2720QM into a T420 viable cooling-wise? It sounds like the best option for a cheap 8 thread Thinkpad.

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>>61145551
Noise, I'll try the Sabrent cause the first one sucks.

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Been waiting for my t470 for a while now still not as long as some people. The ups track say's it left Korea on the 28 but it suppose to arrive by the end of the day on the 30th. no that hopeful it will arrive tomorrow desu.

>>61141419
1) Basic economics
2) Chinese

>>61145817
>>61145551
while we're on this, whats the best upgrade path for a T42 as far as storage goes?
I really just want to minmize noise and heat. Capacity is not a big deal, im on 40gb right now i could probably work with even less.

>>61145885
mSATA SSD with a PATA adapter

>>61145885
Dunno mate
I personally like my T40 because it can take PATA and SATA hdds so it's create machine to have when creating bootable HDDs for older computers.
God bless Ultrabay Slim

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Which Thinkpad is seen in this crap pic? Must be a T61, right (judging by the palmrest shape, assymetrical hinges, Thinkpad (unlike IBM on T60) logo and Intel sticker)?

>>61146029
14" 4:3 T61. Could serve as a donor if you're interested in building a T601F.

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>>61145825
Does it come with a K-eoboard.bought a x61t there and it is chill.

i just bought 5 more in a eBay auction for 70. They aren't the tablets. Partly to make a challenge video to xsauce, but I think I might have pissed him off, or the link caused it to end up in spam.

What do I do about the fact that in two days my new old Thinkpad has ruined all other laptops for me forever?

>>61146214
Thanks. So the no-widescreen 14" is the right kind of T61 for a T601?
Not really planning to build one though. Also, this seller wants the price of a T420 for this, so good luck for him. Just curious what it was, since the ad didn't specify neither model nor cpu.

>>61146506
Yeah, the motherboard needs to be from a 4:3 model to fit in the T60 and there are no 4:3 15" T61s.

Definitely not worth it for that sort of price though. A T61 really shouldn't run more than $100 unless it's top spec, in good shape, and the listing states that. If they didn't even specify the model and only provided that shitty picture, it'd be a hard sell even in a more reasonable price range.

Hey, /tpg/
I'm torn between a 2570p and an x230.
Is there any valid criticism about 2570p that will actually sway me over to the x230 side of the isle?
I searched for phrases like "2570p build quality issues" and "2570p problems" on Google/duckduckgo but couldn't find any valid criticism.
Moreover when I replaced "2570p" with "x230" there were a ton of results, pointing out at x230's lower build quality and the fact that it cannot use a third party battery....
Is 2570p really better than x230? Please to offer me valid criticisms about 2570p
Keep in mind that this my first laptop and so the keyboard/trackpoint won't really matter to me as I'm new to using a laptop's keyboard anyway.
Also, since I'm a poorfag, the screen mod for x230 is out of the question and so the screen won't be a valid criticism for 2570p, as I won't be able to upgrade x230's screen.

Why did that guy in the previous thread apply liquid electrical tape all over his x220's motherboard? What does it do?

>>61146586
electrical insulation and a cosmetic effect
but its retarded, anything that gets hot will get really fuckin hot, but i guess if you spill some water on it or something you'll have a few more seconds to pull the battery

>>61146397
use it forever
theres a reason why im still using a T42
even going up to a T60, it just doesnt compare
touching a 2016 mbp is like burning my fingers on an iron

T530 with the i7 3720m, 8GB of RAM, 500GB HDD and 1080p screen for £350. Worth it?

>>61146576
2570p weighs more and is thicker, keyboard is lower quality and doesn't have a middle mouse button for the trackpoint, also ugly

just go with whatever you find a better deal on

unless you need a cd/dvd drive in 2017, there's not much reason to get one over the other

>>61146663
thats a bit high, if you can, try and talk them down to 300, but only if its in really great cosmetic shape
In the US i see them often on ebay for ~250$ with those specs and in grade A shape

>>61146692
Cheapest one I can find on UKbay is £330, I think your prices are generally a lot better than mine.

>>61141421
>>61141377
Tbh windows drivers can be more of a pain then Linux on certain hardware.
>>61141307
Richard stallman signiture counts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdfY25gDjK8
>Forcibly removes windows product key
>>61141442
X220
>>61141472
Gig Em!
>>61141555
Second hand SSD why????

Just get small SSD and hard drive
>>61142366
Wierd have x220 running stretch and it worked out of the box. maybe try non-free version instead.

>>61146738
even then i know the price difference isnt that high
in any sense, 350 pounds is way too much for those specs, you should try looking for T430's or x230's if 15" isnt as much of a necessity
if 15" is the important bit, it may be a better option to buy an underspecced machine and upgrade it, if you can find one with say 4gb of ram or one with no HDD for significantly less and keep the cost of upgrades or parts under the total of 300 pounds

>>61146773
I'm pretty much just looking for a cheap thinkpad with a proper i7 and a nice screen. I've seen a 1600x900 T420 at £130, considering buying that and adding another 4GB RAM + SSD. No luck finding a barebones T420 yet, sadly.

>>61146841
Oh, and flashing the BIOS and throwing in a 3000 series low power i7.

>>61146690
Hey, thanks anon!
Maybe I'd toss to see which one I should get as they are both awesome!

so I bought a ThinkPad T450, really decent machine, but I replaced the standard screen with one from a ThinkPad T460.
However, I can't adjust the brightness in Windows, but I can in Linux.

>>61146969
Simple, don't use Windows.

>>61146978
I suppose, but it would be nice.
I plugged in the old screen and brightness works fine on that so I'm guessing there's some fucked up EDID definitions somwhere

Is there a Thinkpad that doesn't require non-free drivers and firmware?

>>61146995
X60
rms himself uses one

>>61146995
Libreboot, minifree

>>61146690
>2570p weighs more and is thicker,

true
>keyboard is lower quality
debatable

>and doesn't have a middle mouse button for the trackpoint
it's fine

>also ugly
looks sexier to me.

IMO the only real drawback is the lack of a IPS display

>>61146765
>Second hand SSD why????
because it's works, it's cheaper and you can get some sweet deals on them.

post 2010 SSDs can handle much more writes than advertised.

>>61147094
You can get a mpci SSD pretty cheap they have 16gb new ones for less then 10 dollars and the regular 60gb ones are 30. Most think pads have 2 drives.

What do you use all your extra space for desu?

>>61147130
Gay porn, m8.

Budget: <£300
Location: UK
Size: Any
Performance: Most intensive thing would be light gaming, anything up to the NXT client for Runescape.

Best thing i've found so far is a T440 with HD4600 IGPU for £190.

>>61141071
Third option, you can open it up. It has LGABC21865 cells inside (orange ones; at least my x230 does). If you are ok with McGuivering shit you can make a spot welder from an old microwave transformer. https://hackaday.com/2014/09/21/a-professional-spot-welder-made-out-of-a-microwave-transformer/ Then use it to spot weld tabs onto new LGABC21865 cells and solder the cells into the old battery circuit (9 cell = 3x3, 6 cell = 2x3). Add some hot glue and put everything back together. Check the connector for power, if it doesn't have any, take an equivalent power source and short the terminals very quickly. That should kick it back to life. This will be much cheaper.

>>61147601
Also, don't try to solder the tabs directly to the cells because they will explode if overheated.

>>61146559
>A T61 really shouldn't run more than
sure, I wouldn't even pay a 100 for a T61 unless it's top specced and super mint.
>If they didn't even
It's on a classifieds site, the guy is in fucknowhere, the ad says, lemme translate it, "selling a gud potrable compter, possibl to swap for a scooter", but at least it's listed under IBM/Lenovo->Thinkpad.
He might as well find another redneck who buys it or swaps him a beat-up scooter.


>>61146690
>>61146576
And then there's the E6330, having all the clit buttons and afaik no third party battery issues.
>inb4 ugly
A matter of taste.

David Hill just retired before the release of the Retro, feels kind of strange

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https://world.taobao.com/item/43600546862.htm?fromSite=main&spm=a312a.7700824.w4004-15750415553.2.Pq57n

Anyone buy this before? Is this just the ribbon mod or is this the laptop already modded? I'm retarded sorry

Do chink batteries tend to have functioning locks? Mines has some resistance against sliding right out, but no "lock" function, makes me sad cause the "lock" drawing is false.

>>61140985
Got a used t420s and battery life in ubuntu is approx. 3 hours, maybe less.
Would replacing the 6-cell battery give me more time? Max. charge is currently only 20% lower than the intended capacity.
Trying to avoid buying an ultrabay bat. because of the price and because I like the CD drive in general.

>>61148256
Sounds about right. Use TLP to recalibrate the battery to get a more accurate capacity.

The T420s batteries use smaller battery cells than the non-s. The 6-cell is only 44Wh while the T420 6-cell is 57Wh. Also don't think the T420s had an extended battery option like the T420 9-cell.

So at best with a new battery you would probably get 4 hours.

>>61147354
Look for the newest I5xxxxM you can find. U tends to have worse iGPU.

Was using my Thinkpad for a few minutes before the charger seemed to stop registering.

Is there anything I can do to troubleshoot, or is it gone?

>>61148608
test another charger, could be the laptop's port or the port connector to the mobo

>>61148638
I don't have another. But I was mistaken about it working for a few minutes at the start of the session- it was the battery stretch icon I saw and mistook for charging.

I'm gonna reboot and hope it works because this battery only has 21% left and I'm not doing anything right now I can't do later.

>>61146576
c/p x2x0-2570p comparison from a little while back:

quick hp 2570p review:
-all metal build is great, feels really solid
-screen is as bad as any thinkpad tn from that time, is "fine" for displaying information humans can look at
-pointer is pretty good, no middle button sucks
-trackpad is nicer than x220/x230
-popout keyboard lamp is hilariously useless vs thinklight(tm), but a neat mechanism to ocd fidget with over and over
-keyboard feel isn't any worse than a macbook pro/air, layout is not as good as xx20 or even xx30, motherfuck any kb that makes you fn modify for pg up/dn
-dvd drive in a 12" laptop is pretty cool, will probably put in a caddy though
-bootable esata port is nice, will probably be underused
-laffo @ smartcard slot
-internal accessibility is fucking great, everything is right there under one panel. once everything is repasted, upgraded, etc, everyday usefulness drops pretty quick, but man i won't dread getting in there like i did getting my x220 heatsink off
-broadcom wifi is shit shit shit with [my linux distro of choice]. replaced it with some jobber intel card i had laying around so now it doesn't take 30 seconds to reconnect after standby

it might sound like im shitting on it, but the 2570p is still a hell of a lot better than most laptops. that sata3 raid0 thing the one dude was jerking off over, cpu upgradability, dvd drive, might be enough for some people to overlook the design shortcomings.

final verdict: still prefer my x220, but a fair 2nd place out of all the laptops ive touched. will use as a beater or whenever i feel like mixing it up. might gift it to the next friend whose shitty acer desolders itself

just got a z61t up and running, and it's glorious. my main is still a t61p, and i use a z61m for music recording, but this seems to be a nice side laptop. got 4 other thinkpads laying around too, including a vintage one i may make into a dos machine or a win95 machine.

Is there any product recommendation for trackpad lubrication?

Can i shove 8 threads in my t430 without it boiling itself? It already came with a 90w adapter.

what does "enterprise" mean when its added on to the model name?

>>61149794
how vintage you talking?
>>61149832
like the buttons? i just use like the tiniest tab of lithium grease in the switches
>>61150113
yes, the cooler is up to it, but expect to be near that "its not great but it runs" temperature
>>61150134
designed for business

>>61150206
i mean, considering the first thinkpads came out in 95, not that vintage. it's a 760EL, so it's pretty early. i'm guessing 96

>>61150294
i'm probably wrong about that date btw

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Heads up, the last run of T70 is going on sale tomorrow.

https://forum.51nb.com/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=1787469

>>61149156
stop reposting this shitty mindless """review""". You have no idea what you're talking about.

does anyone have any experiences with these guys? looking at an x230 but want to know about the buyer more first
http://stores.ebay.com/RefubThinkpad

Budget: >250€
Location: France
Size: Any
Performance: Eroge games

An SSD upgrade would be appreciated

So I just replaced the 320 gig HDD that my T420 had with a 480 gig SSD and installed win 7 in place of 10. What now?

>>61151617
install gentoo

Not really enterprise laptop, but i got an xps 15" (4k i7 6700 16gb ram 1tb hdd 960m) for 850 syrup dollars today.

Pretty good deal?

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:DD just get a t430... feels good!

i broke the screen on my t440s a few months ago and its come time to replace it, it was the 1600x900 TN panel and i want to upgrade to the 1080p IPS, I am wondering if this will still be plug and play as it wasnt originally 1080p

Also having trouble finding an AOU panel for a good price as they must be almost all gone by now. will i really notice the difference over just buying from a listing where they just send you any other compatible 1080p ips panel?

pleas help anons

There's a qt at the train station right now using a X220.

Like ridiculously hot.

Found a T440p, i5, 8GB RAM and a 500GB HDD for £240. 1080p screen as well. Should I go for it and swap in a 450 touchpad?

>>61150347
>is likely to be the last batch of production.
Pls ;__;
I want that so bad, but I don't have spare T60 (yet) in which I will do the mod on.

>>61154035
T60s are like $25 with a few days of ebay camping

>>61143348
Nah Amigo. Not unless you get a W530. The Nvidia chips are soldered to the motherboard.

Disk drive caddy says it takes drives up to 9.5mm thick, 840 Evo is 10mm thick. Is it lying or am I boned?

>>61154919
840 evo is a 7mm drive, like almost all ssd's

>>61154919
Hang on, I'm retarded and forgot how drives are measured.
>>61154930
Will it stay in place with mounting screws or do I need a spacer of some kind?

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Bought a used x230 off ebay, the screen randomly fails like this, followed by a shutdown, after which it's fine. This usually happens after it's been in my car/backpack for a while, so I was thinking the display cable could be loose, but that doesn't explain the display being fine after a restart, or that it shuts itself down. The picture is from when it came with windows 10, I've installed windows 7 and still have the same problem.
I was thinking the hard drive, since it has 9 thousand power on hours and 3 thousand power ons, but I'm not sure. Anyone have this problem before?

Any list of gud mods for a T440P? Mine's already got a 1080P screen and a T450 touchpad.

>>61148044
Pls respond for dubs sake

>>61154985
It's probably nothing, but I'm using PC3-10600 ram, while the specs say PC3-12800

>>61148044
Stop being retarded and figure it out.

>>61154985
One of three things:
graphics driver fucked
integrated drivers fucked
screen fucked

I doubt the screen is fucked, so try reinstalling the drivers and if the problem persists, trash it.

>>61154985
return it and get your money back if you can

get a refurb X220 on newegg for $150

way better than CL or ebay prices

If I take the keyboard out of my dead T420, what's the latest model I can put it in?

>>61155486
Well the T430 accepts the T420's keyboard, so I would assume it would work in reverse.

>>61155500
Sorry, I meant what's the latest model of Thinkpad I can put the T420's keyboard into?

I'm about to fall for the thinkpad meme.

T420 or T430 with T420 keyboard? Will use it mostly for writing. Which has the better screen?

Is it dangerous to run my T520 at 80C all the time? It's summer hell out here, there's no way to cool it.

>>61155348
I did a clean install of 7 after the screen weirded out the first time, still getting the problems

>>61155540
T430 with T430 keyboard
both have shitty screens

>>61155590
no they are built to do that

>>61155647
>T430 with T430 keyboard
Git out. You are not needed here.

What was the last real Thinkpad?

>>61155647
>both have shitty screens
So the matte 1600x900 is no good?

Which /tpg/-approved laptops have a good screen?

>>61156154
X61.

Runner up, T420.

>>61156154
The Retro Thinkpad

>>61156148
>he thinks chiclet is that bad

>>61156148
there's nothing wrong with it unless you need the context menu key

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>>61156242
http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/retro-thinkpad-its-alive/

Pls be gud

>>61156253
It is.

>>61156253
The layout is shit you dumb nigger.
Just get any generic laptop if you don't plan to use the T420 keyboard you fag.
>>61156270
I bet you prefer the touchpad over trackpoint.

>>61156271
I won't believe this thing is legit until it's in the hands of reviewers.
>>61156154
I think most people here would argue the T4/520. It's after the IBM branding was ditched but it's the last series before they started fucking with the basics of the chassis and keyboard.

>>61156271
So when this thing sells massively to the pro users still desperately hanging onto their T420's, do you think they'll introduce the 'Retro' as a new line alongside their old machines or something?

>>61156352
>>61156325
The communal desire of the entire damn userbase is "I want an X60/X61/T420 with modern parts."

As long as they stick to that philosophy with this, it'll sell like a bloody wildfire and save the laptop sector.

>>61156408
It annoys me that 'a tough, traditional laptop with a nice keyboard' is considered 'retro', a throwback. It shouldn't be.

>>61156424
Yup. I guarantee most people would take laptops twice as thick as the common ones if that entire extra thickness was just battery, for example. The craze for light fragile pieces of shit is moronic.

>>61156154
T60. From T61, it was downhill all the way to T470.
>>61156408
>The communal desire of the entire damn userbase is "I want an X60/X61/T420 with modern parts."
Where is T60? It's so wanted with modern hardware that the chinese made T70.
>>61156471
I fucking hate the "Thin and light" trend. Nothing good comes from it other than useless paperweights.

>>61156573
Fug, meant to say T60 not X60. You get the idea anyways, and the T70 is sick. I think they're making another batch of them now.

So, is Lenovo Thinkpad actually above other brands business tier laptops, or are they mainly popular due to legacy? Don't have the best impression of Lenovo as a whole from their other product lines.

>>61156573
Thin and light is fine on its own, but the PC market is supposed to be about variety. Thin and light has its place. The problem is that if I want thicc and durable, I currently have no options.
There also used to be an option to pay a lot of money for an expensive laptop. Now you can pay a lot of money for a tarted up cheap laptop. There's an important difference there.

>>61156623
There's a reason nobody here is ever talking about models built after 2012. Modern Thinkpads are probably still some of the better enterprise machines on the market but they've got nothing on the classic designs.

Lads
Anyone know if Lenovo sell the internal battery for a T450?
Mine needs replacing and I can't see it on the web store, and I'm not changing eBay.

should i get this?

http://www.kijiji.ca/v-laptops/city-of-toronto/lenovo-thinkpad-t430-loaded-i7-512gb-ssd-16-gb-475/1260745604

>>61156583
Yes, it will be the last batch. (most likely)
>>61156645
>thicc and durable, I currently have no options.
You are wrong, you do have options like panasonic toughbooks or getac computers but that's pretty much it.

>>61156748
You are on your own pal. I have no experience computers from T400 to T470 series thinkpads. I only have experience on thinkpads from T30 to T61.

>>61156766
But the problem is that there you're getting into a purpose built ruggedized laptop when you start looking at those things. My T420 is solid as a brick while still being a normal device, rather than one explicitly designed to take a beating above all other things.

>>61156788
Why did you answer the question saying you can't answer the question?

>>61155401
I would, but it's the i7 IPS x230, really nice aside from the whole randomly dying

>>61156756
it's a fair price IMO if that's what you want and it has all the specs it says it has

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>>61156792
>T420
>solid
Pick one, buddy. You ain't got shit to my T61 or T60. Those things are build like tanks. T40 is just as wonderful.
Well actually I have no idea of T420 solidness. I looked up pictures about the lid but couldn't see anything interesting compared to
>pic related
Which is T61 lid.
>>61156818
Because you suck for buying T450 and you deserve to be bullied for buying a machine and then being unable to fix it.
This is the future you choose, now deal with it.

>>61156884
>he still uses a T60
alright gramps?

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>>61156884
The xx20 line are the last ones before Lenovo let the design toddlers draw all over the IBM designs.
I agree it may not quite be as tough as your T60, but it's still a Thinkpad. More than I can say for what they're putting out now.

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Your Lenovo order #XXXXXXXXXX has been delayed

Hold me, /tpg/

Hey turbosautimos, I remember a while back there was some upgrade/retrofit mainboards for various Thinkpad models, but i can't remember for the life of me who made them.

>>61156932
There isn't really any reason to make a good laptop now outside of toughened laptops for field work.

Most enterprise employees aren't even working on their machines anyway, everything is VDI so they can do their stupid BYOD crap.

>>61156904
It seems that the average age of my computers is 2003. USB came out in the year 1996 and SATA came out 2003.
>>61157460
>buying computers straight from Lenovo
>>61157479
Lurk moar

>>61157479
51nb made the T62/X62 I think

>>61157542
you're really of no help whatsoever

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>>61157567
>T62
>not knowing the correct name which have been said in the thread for a couple of times already
Shiggy
He really should have read the thread before posting stupid questions which they belong to >>>/g/sqt

My T420 with an SSD is genuinely the best experience I've ever had with a laptop. What now?

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How do I stop the coilwhine (or whatever it is) on my x220? I think its coming either from bottom left of the machine or top/middle right. Send help, I am going insane.

>>61157783
Keep it forever until it becomes old enough that it needs a custom mobo from the Chinese

Cheapest place to buy FHD screen for X250?

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Why did this even happen?

>>61158140
Because clearly, Lenovo's numbers were down on account of not borrowing enough superficial Mac design elements. Rather than being 'literally who' as far as regular consumers are concerned.

>>61157836
They won't waste their time on a 16:9 POS. A new generation for 4:3 models would be more likely.

>>61158162
What's with the hateboner for the 16:9 models on here? They make for a fine compromise of screen size and form factor. I'd be majorly sacrificing on screen real estate if I was to get a 4:3 small enough to fit in my bag, come to think of it.

>>61158183
>What's with the hateboner for the 16:9 models on here?
The options were taken away.

Thinkpads went from all 4:3, to 4:3/16:10 options, to all 16:9

It's an awful Hobson's Choice

>>61158162
Good point.

>>61158203
Now that's entirely fair. And basically the story of the modern tech industry. A dozen companies with a dozen lines each all want to sell you a Macbook.

>>61156884
>being this autistic
I'm not the anon who asked you.

I was going to ask why you use a T60 but from your post it is painfully obvious.

Isn't a T430 with a bios mod allowing it to use the full keyboard and third party batteries literally just a better T420?

>>61158140
Probably because the old keyboard had flex and gave a cheap feel. The new sectioned keys are individual in that regard.

>>61158251
That's a good question. I'd be interested to know too.
>>61158266
But you need a little bit of flex or give in a laptop keyboard. I got a shiny new Acer gaymen machine a few days ago because I needed something semi-portable with decent hardware. That keyboard, while nicely sized, has this sharp end to they travel that makes you feel like you're whacking your fingers against a metal sheet after a few minutes. Terrible for serious typing.

>>61157542
>buying computers straight from Lenovo
I ordered the day they released the QHD screen for the X1, so no retailers are going to have an i7 with 1TB SSD sitting around.

>>61158232
Well actually I use T61 daily but I plan to trannyboot my T60 for muh freedumbs.
Just in case if shit is going to hit the fan in EU.

Guys, I recently bought a t460s with 256g ssd inside. ssd judging by speccy is
TOSHIBA THNSFJ256GDNU A (picture 1)
I want to change it now for a something with 512g memory for the sake of convenience
The model that was found to be relatively cheap is
Toshiba NVMe M.2 SSD 512GB PCIe 3.0 x4 THNSN5512GPUK (picture 2)
I would like to ask you - as I understand it, the slot on the laptop supports both pcie ssd too?
I just did not have a laptop with a m2 slot before, so I do not really understand the way it works and ask for your help.

>>61155117
I replaced the DVDrom with a hdd caddy. So I had the ssd for the system and hdd for large files.

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>>61158804
Forgot pic. This is the one installed.

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>>61158804
This is the one I want to install. Notice the different pins. Would it work?

>>61158849
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/02/understanding-m-2-the-interface-that-will-speed-up-your-next-ssd/

it should work, yes

>>61159027
Thank you dear friend

>>61158251
Yes.

I not sue if i paid too much for a T410, m560 2.66ghz w/ 4gh and 1440x900 display. I hope this display is like the t400's... cuz the t420 display sucks ass... no hdd, no ac, but comes with battery... how i do $57.00 USD.

>>61156189
W520 1080p is top tier

>>61160050
i need one for my collecti
on

>>61154985

If a restart fixes it, almost certainly a software issue. Immediately makes me think graphics driver.

im buying a T70 from 51nb.
anyone have any experience with the finished laptops from there?
i would buy motherboard but i cant seem to find a used t60 in my country

>>61160388
>e any experience with the finished laptops from there?
>i would buy motherboard but i cant seem to find a used t60 in my country

how much does it cost??

>>61156645
>ruggedised laptop with durability.
Elitebooks 2570p(if thinkpads don't satisfy you already)

Do I need to update the BIOS of my T60 before I add another processor?

>>61160424
i think he said 980 for complete computer and 680 for just mobo

>>61140985
According to thinkwiki t520 came with a 160Gb SSD, but all sellers on ebay list it as "160Gb HDD". Which one should I believe? Also, does anyone know the specific model of the SSD it it is one?

>>61160477
thanks anon! wow that's pricey!

>>61160488
is there a picture of the BIOS screen or picture of the bottom of the laptop?

if you can get the serial number then plug it into Lenovo's website, it'll tell you what it originally came with

>>61160498
Eh, it's in the exact same price range as any new i7-U type ultrabook/portable

>>61160620
Where exactly on the website do I plug it in?

>>61160701
support button -> update drivers button

>>61160721
Thanks!

>>61160625

Ah ok... those U chips... (shitty ultrabook under power) cpus.

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Would a T440s with an i5/i7 running Debian be reliable for uni and programming, and *maybe* some music production? From what I've read the T440 has some build quality issues but decent potential for upgrades and parts replacement when needed.

>>61160820

if you're in the uni and programming i recommend a t420, and if you want something more portable x220. Right performance for the right price. You won't go wrong and you will come back on here to thank me. =)

>>61160820
*40 is possibly the worst choice

>>61161025

I bough a t410, 1440x900 hope it's got the good screen like the t400 and not like the t420.

>>61160820
t440p

>>61160894
>>61160820
To add to what that anon said: I suggest getting a model with the intel GPU only, it would save you some headache/money.

Alright boys. T400 man here. Looking for a good X model for muh portability. What do you guys recommend? Also do HDMI adapters work?

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Should I pull the trigger?

>>61161570
too much for north america but i guess europe prices are usually pretty inflated. already has an ips so thats one less upgrade to euroverspend on. sure go for it

Is it worth fucking with chink chargers when chagers are standard across the Thinkpad line (besides voltage), so OEM ones are aplenty?

It seems to be a difference of at most $15 starting at 10 for chink chargers. Would you buy a non-OEM thinkpad charger?

>>61161877
if u wanna risk fucking up your laptop to save $5 , go for it. they will probably work fine ... but its a risk

Do you carry your ThinkPad to bed with you and sit it on your crotch, /tpg? I am using an x220 with a battery made in China and was wondering whether these things explode or not.

>>61162236
Is the x220 gud? I'm looking at that and the x230. Can the dvd drive from my t400 fit it?

>>61162267
X220 and X230 do not have dvd drives/ultrabays

>>61162267
I know the x220 is small and very comfy which is what I love. I don't think it will fit anything above 2.5''.

>>61161877
I got a third-party charger for my first Thinkpad. It sucked and I never did it again. All genuine, all the time. Like you said, everything from the *60 generation up through the --30s takes the same charger, so it's not hard at all to find them.

>>61161570
ye

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Got this for 230 burgerbucks. In love with the build quality.

>>61160388
I have a T70, but I bought the motherboard alone directly. Are you thinking of buying a complete build from lcdfans/Jacky? HOPE endorses his work.

>>61162384
>2017
>t420
>$230 usd
Nigga unless that thing was loaded and in perfect condition you paid way to much.
you can easily get one with the dgpu for $150-170
Shit I got my t430 for just over $200
>>61162236
why the hell do you have it so far away (unless you're a manlet)
I keep mine on my chest.

>>61162444
I know it's much, but it's certified refurbished and plus I wanted the 8 gigs of ram

>>61162384
>230 burgerbucks for a t420

fucking retard

>>61162499
>certified refurbished

>2000+17
>falling for the certified refurbished scam

literall meme tax

>>61161928
>>61162295
Tbh I accidentally clicked a buy now button of sorts over "add to cart" so now ebay says I committed to buying it. "You've committed to buy this item. Please continue to checkout."

Some serious bullshit considering the account has no payment method yet but wow. Not even a confirmation and it's pixels above the add to cart button. It sucks since a genuine one has faster shipping and is the same price, so considering asking to be let out of this.

>>61156242
>real Thinkpad
>overpriced hobbyist retro limited edition meme
yeah no

>>61156242
>>61156271
it'll be shit.

If they were to release a thinkpad with all the features thinkpad fans want, they'll canibalize all their other sales.

>>61160820
Have had the 450s for a couple of years, probably the best machine the market had back then for my use case. I don't know about the 440s but I would expect it to be a good choice for uni.

>>61163090
the *40 series was pure shite

>>61163511
Really? I've had one for work for a year and the only issue I've got with it is the shitey touchpad.

>>61163607
the definition of chinkpad

>>61154985

Test your ram... and run furmark... could be hardware, thats usually what bad video card or ram looks like

>wanna go out and get wasted
>It's been raining non stop
>Poorfag so don't have money anyway

Is there some thinkpad for this feel?

when will niggovo reveal the retro thinkpad? no date?

>>61162881
yeah but a lot of people are just getting dells instead and they'd come back to levovo if a retro came out done properly

>>61164563
Don't get your hopes up, there's no possibility that retro thinkpad will be good anon.

>>61155515
T430
W530
X230

>>61162236
Do you want to become a trap, are you cute anon?

>>61164731
also t530

>>61164761
oh yeah that too

>>61164780
the *30 keyboard it's fine tho, besides the layout.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdJ6BbvTw-s

Thoughts?

>>61140985
NEW THREAD

>>61164872

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>>61140985
>added E6430 to the OP
Mine finally came in, and I put in a SSD with a fresh install of W10 and benched it. Pretty impressed with the results for a $230 laptop.

>http://www.userbenchmark.com/UserRun/4153017

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>>61164221
Furmark runs fine, memtest86 passed. It really seems to only happen when it comes out of sleep, usually after being rattled around in my car for an hour.
>>61160289
It restarts right after the screen locking up, I've tried drivers from lenovo, intel, and windows update.

Here's an anime broad for your suggestions though