2017

debian is actually very nice

>>61135204
who is that

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>>61135272

> debian
> bloat

kys gentoo fag

>>61135204
Y hate systemd?

>>61135204
Fedora is comfy, why should i change it?

>>61135204
That's a dude.
Probably the most convincing trap I've seen.
But the jaw line is a dead giveaway.

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>>61135732
Sauce?

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>>61135732
Its time to go outside son.

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>>61135848
>>61135860
BRRRAPPP

inb4 404

>>61135732
even if what you said was true...ass is the great equalizer.

>>61135848
>>61135860
> error 404:penis_ not_found

systemd is a fucking stockpile of horse shit.
One day you will wake up and notice even the kernel is replaced with it.

>>61135414
Y not read news?
Systemd Boxen can be owned with a dns query

>>61135896
if systemd is that bad than why does manjaro is considered shit it doesnt use systemd and also if my os has a lot of extra shit but is still 1gb is it still bloatware

>>61135848
>>61135860
>Not being able to distinguish traps from women.
That's a man you fucks
Jesus guys

>>61135204
>Not posting a comprehensive(or simple) list of non systemD distros so others and myself can try them out.....

3/10

>>61136033
fucking rekt>>61135996

>>61135204
>>61135848
>>61135860

Jawline is male-males jaw angle is closer to 90 degrees
Brow is also male because it doesn't slope back evenly.

It's a very convincing Trap

>>61135996
Did you take your pills today?

>>61136033
Look at him. Disgusting. Have fun jerking off to men with huge penises, fag.

>>61136044
nobody will do shit for you.
Search yourself.
man google
man brain
start from there

>>61135204
My slaves are bloatware, should I kill them?

>>61136053
>fucking rekt
Go ahead and Jack off to a post op male.
I warned you
I fucking warned you.

>>61135800
Is this actually real?

>>61136082
ok i believe you
just answer why nonsystemd distros are also considered shit

>everything must be a trap because i think everyone is edgy on the chan

consider starting your sexual life faggots

>>61136061
You are such a faggot. Is Trisquel any good?

>>61136055
Are you one of those that also believe the shape of skull determines whether you're a criminal?

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>>61136182
this
Insisting there's measurable difference between "biological"(whatever tf that means) females and males is exactly like phrenology:
outdated pseudoscience

>>61136206
That fagot looks exactly like the grinch

>>61136182
>>61136206
>thinks there's no difference between genders
>implies biology isnt a thing

>>>/reddit/

>>61136206
>>61136238
There is a measurable difference, but jaw angle and brow shape really isn't reliable.

>>61136238
You do realize sex is a social construct correct?

>he doesnt know about net image
>he doesnt know about debootstrap/chroot for even more minimalism

>>61136270
You're reffering to gender, that's the real social construct, there are only two sexes and each person has one which has been born with.

"Gender" doesn't even have a direct translation in many latin-based languages because it's bullshit.Before the frankfurt school & other propaganda/degeneracy spreading places the word "gender" wasn't even mainstream, you would have SEX on ID/birth certificate/etc.That's why you don't have direct translations for "transgender" but only transexual for example.

You probably have a good intention but yeah...

>>61136366
>>>/pol/

Take your bigotry back.

Sex is just something bronze age hunter gatherers came up with to refer to someone happening to have longer hair and liking men vs the opposite.

"Men" and "Women" are virtually the same from a biological standpoint.
There's as much difference as the difference between an individual from an ethnic macrogroup (let's say aborigenal) from another (caucasoid for instance).


>>>/pol/

>>61136394
Maybe on the outside. Male and female are biologicaly very distinct in all mammals, including us. It might be inconvenient to you, but no matter how much hormones you pump your kids with, it won't make them biologically functional as the opposite sex.

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>>61136394
>"Men" and "Women" are virtually the same from a biological standpoint.
False.

>There's as much difference as the difference between an individual from an ethnic macrogroup (let's say aborigenal) from another (caucasoid for instance).
False equivalency. The two are not directly comparable.

>>61136471
>Male and female are biologicaly very distinct in all mammals

Absolute antiscientific nonsense.
"Sexual dimorphism" is a social construct and all over the place across the mammal class.

>it won't make them biologically functional
They're 99% the same apart from a very specific use case scenario.
Anything else including lactation is the same in both "sexes" and entirely hormone dependent.

As I said, if you argue for that line you might aswell admit you're a racist because you can find more genetic differences between races than between "sexes".

>>61136510
>False equivalency. The two are not directly comparable.

Says you. If you focus on a couple specific chromosomes only as the end all criteria then by this logic races are real, which is obviously absolute racist nonsense.

>>61135204
Windows doesn't use systemd

>>61136086
Yea, it looks like its some of the people who frequented He Will Not Divide Us

>>61135204
How about you worry about yourself instead of other people. Why don't you get off your high horse while you're at it.

>>61136519
>Absolute antiscientific nonsense.
That's why even little kids (or lambs or what have you) can tell the difference between a male and a female of their own kind.
>They're 99% the same apart from a very specific use case scenario.
Hence they're not functional. If they can't fulfill their only task as an organism, they are not functional.
>As I said, if you argue for that line you might aswell admit you're a racist because you can find more genetic differences between races than between "sexes"
No you can't find more genetic differences between races than you can between sexes. Y chromosome, though very small, carries large number of genes (most of which are expressed, unlike in other chromosomes). The difference between races in this regard is minor in comparison.

Furthermore if you stop pumping your trans individual with hormones, his body will change back to the way it was genetically determined. Unless you also prevent it from producing large enough quantities of given hormones, but even then it doesn't produce enough hormones on its own to prevent the regression.

You clearly can see the ballsack you retards.

>>61136528
>if you look at this I can clearly see you're correct
>but I don't like that so you're not correct

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>>61136206
This fucking guy.
I loved it when they said he shouldn't lead the march for science because he's male.
Just don't ever engage with these progressive crazies.

>>61136607
>That's why even little kids (or lambs or what have you) can tell the difference between a male and a female of their own kind
the very definition of social construct, ty
>Hence they're not functional. If they can't fulfill their only task as an organism, they are not functional.
teleological fallacy
>No you can't find more genetic differences between races than you can between sexes. Y chromosome, though very small, carries large number of genes (most of which are expressed, unlike in other chromosomes). The difference between races in this regard is minor in comparison.
Yes you can, look it up. Please stop displaying embarassing leveles of ignorance and bigotry on a scientific board anon.
>Furthermore if you stop pumping your trans individual with hormones, his body will change back to the way it was genetically determined. Unless you also prevent it from producing large enough quantities of given hormones, but even then it doesn't produce enough hormones on its own to prevent the regression.
Not an argument. That's akin as saying if you stop washing you smell therefore the "natural" state of homo sapiens is to smell like rotten carrion

>>61136660
No, your "argument" was ipse dixit pure and simple.

>>61136541
windows is the shit we're worried systemd is trying to turn linux into. putting everything in the init process makes the OS less stable as there is more that can go wrong in the primary process. putting DNS stuff in the init process is fucking stupid. this is like winnuke in the 90s level of stupidity in an OS.

>>61136783
>>61136792
Yes. Gender Theory is as much a "theory" as evolution is.
It's just inbred rednecks misusing the scientific vs colloquial meaning of the word.

Making our country the laughing stock of the planet once again

>>61135204
>nice ass
>short hair
HNNNNGHHHH.

Op is a data mining nsa fag don't reply to him. He shits up pol constantly

>>61136783
>the very definition of social construct, ty
That's weird, why can isolated rats tell the difference then?
>teleological fallacy
Oh you're a philosopher, no wonder you're so ignorant. The purpose of organisms is to survive, mammals do this by passing on their genes, which is done by having offsprings. When we can have offsprings without sex, then sexual dimorphism can be considered useless.
>Yes you can, look it up. Please stop displaying embarassing leveles of ignorance and bigotry on a scientific board anon.
Ethnicity, which is presumably what you mean by race, doesn't come even close to sex in terms of genetic difference and differentiability. The expression rate of valid sequences on Y chromosome is largest of all chromosomes. The fact that Y chromosome also carries a lot of junk DNA doesn't mean it's expression rate is lower.
>Not an argument. That's akin as saying if you stop washing you smell therefore the "natural" state of homo sapiens is to smell like rotten carrion
Completely missed the point. What this is saying is sex is real, genetically determined property you can't change on a whim.

>>61137076
>That's weird, why can isolated rats tell the difference then?
Rats can't tell the difference between a real one and a puppet sprayed with estrogen.
You just proved my point.
Them being able to tell something as negligible as sex is neither here nor there.
>Oh you're a philosopher, no wonder you're so ignorant. The purpose of organisms is to survive, mammals do this by passing on their genes, which is done by having offsprings. When we can have offsprings without sex, then sexual dimorphism can be considered useless.
I'm not. Just not a HS dropout like you.
Again, you're using a teleological fallacy.
"Purpose" has no bearing in the scientific realm whatsoever.
>The fact that Y chromosome also carries a lot of junk DNA doesn't mean it's expression rate is lower.

So you admit I'm right.

>Completely missed the point. What this is saying is sex is real, genetically determined property you can't change on a whim.
"Sex" is a man made category, just as arbitrary as "race"(that was my point in using the word btw). Both cannot strictly be "changed" but both are:
a)irrelevant
b)mimicked so well it becomes a moot point

Please please please read up on the issue.
Unless you're just a /pol/ troll beyond redemption that is.

>>61136519
Use case has nothing to do with it. The two sexes are physically different.
If we are exactly the same, how come my wife has a hole where I have a penis? And why is it that, no matter how many times she tries, she can't get me pregnant?
>zero biological difference
Im a pretty liberal dude but I have to think that is bait. If you talk to Trans gender people who go through the change, you will find out pretty fucking quickly that the two sexes (maybe there are more that you need to identify? There is still a difference) are different. To go from female to male we still don't have a great way to perform bottom surgery. And top surgery involves more than just
>tits
>no tits
As a male I literally don't have a place for eggs to grow, and I lack eggs.
I think maybe the argument your attempting to make is that, because all humans form from basically the same stuff in the womb, and different body parts have parallels, (vaginal, penis, ovaries, testicles, etc) that females and males are the same. But there not.

Invent all the sexes you want. But

XY - Grats dude
XX - Maybe next time, but she sure is a cutie pie
YY - Error
XXY - Error
XYY - Error
XXX - On an external hard drive somewhere
YYY - I don't even think that's a thing

>>61135926

Version 233 already fixed the issue.

>>61136519
>>61137306
>Im a pretty liberal dude but I have to think that is bait.

wat yeah im a tranny and i think thats bad tumblr parody bait

>>61137306
>The two sexes are physically different.
Leaving aside hermaphrodites for a second,
so are the "races".
Are you racist?
>Im a pretty liberal dude but
Is the new "Im not racist but"
There's such thing as internalized racism you know, no matter how "liberal" you perceive yourself.

The rest of your post is basically repeating ad nauseam fallacies and the single thing trans people can't do...yet: reproduction.
>>61137376
There are "trannies" that adhere to national socialism, what is your point?
And no self respecting trans individual would use the word you just used, as it is derogatory.

>>61137376
Post legs

>>61137167
>Rats can't tell the difference between a real one and a puppet sprayed with estrogen.
Equivalent tests have been done on monkeys, with the same result.
>Them being able to tell something as negligible as sex is neither here nor there.
Not what the evidence seems to show. Surely the very mechanic of survival is not negligible, no matter how much you want it to be.
>I'm not. Just not a HS dropout like you.
I'm doing good in EE, thanks famalamalia.
>Again, you're using a teleological fallacy.
>"Purpose" has no bearing in the scientific realm whatsoever.
If you so much desire to take things in scientific realm, maybe use scientific arguments. Y chromosome exists, thus sex is a thing. There are no means so far to function as a specie without it, thus it is significant. The effect Y chromosome has on individual's body is so big, that we had to invent two words for one thing: male and female.
>So you admit I'm right.
Right in that Y isn't as big as other chromosomes or that it doesn't carry as much genes. The expression rate is the point though, Y has by far the largest expression rate.
>"Sex" is a man made category, just as arbitrary as "race"(that was my point in using the word btw). Both cannot strictly be "changed" but both are:
>a)irrelevant
They are relevant or there wouldn't be the need for them.
>b)mimicked so well it becomes a moot point
Sex can be mimicked pretty well apart from the whole point of it: being able to have offsprings. This is the whole point of sex, you need a male and a female to produce an offspring. This is why it's relevant, this is why there are the words.
Now as for the race, you can't really mimic it as well as sex, because it doesn't manifest as mainly a hormonal balance when it comes to appearance or differentiability by senses.
>Please please please read up on the issue.
I don't read gender studies bullshit, i'm more interested in sciences.
>Unless you're just a /pol/ troll beyond redemption that is.
Just a bored summerfag

how is this thread still up?

kind of disapointed in /g/ for feeding the flames

also
>not using debian netinstall + sysv + openrc

>>61137413
Wait. Let's be clear. I can argue that there is a biological difference between sexes, and understand that, because we are a part of the same species, that out DNA doesn't contain large differences. Same thing with "race". There are biological differences between different "races" of people, but our DNA doesn't contain massive differences because we are the same species. Physical differences I members of the same species can exist without a large DNA difference between individuals of the same species.


Confirmed bait. Dammit. I bit. You got me.

>>61137442
Not him/her but:
>that we had to invent two words for one thing: male and female.

nah illiterate sheepherders did that 10000 yrs ago or whatever.
Science itself has been run by white heterosexuals dudes since then, so it may very well be all social constructs.
I suppose you could reword things and concepts to make him/her right.

>>61137472
>Same thing with "race"

Glad you finally admit to be just a racist then.
Not bait, just honest intellectual provocation to demonstrate that transphobes=racists.

>>61137442
>I don't read gender studies bullshit,
>i'm more interested in sciences.
Pick one you neanderthal.

>Just a bored summerfag
Right, so stop posting on this board and go shit up /pol/ or reddit with your idiotic bigoted trolling

>>61137474
Languages evolve too. If there ceases to be the need for it, the words would stop being used.

>>61137522
>gender studies
>science
Oh anon, you're really trying. Gender studies are as much a science as psychology is (read: not at all).

>>61137474
Okay. Please enlighten me then. What does exist? Males and females don't, so any two humans can get together and procreate correct?

The idea being that physically, it's impossible for what we describe as two males, or what we describe as two females(with no outside DNA introduction) to reproduce. This is the basis on which sex lies.

Because this is the "line" on which sex is drawn, it becomes clear that there are at least two sexes. It is simply a way to describe a human with a certain set of reproductive organs. This differs from "race" in thattraits from any "race" can exist in any other "race". The evidence that "race is a social construct overwhelm any scientific evidence pol may seek out from racist" scientists". The primary differing factor between male and female is internal, not external, and is clear: males can't physically produce offspring from within their own body(given the tools they have at birth, you might be able to implant a whom or something), while a female can(of they can find a male that will put their DNA in the pot to help create the baby)
There is literally no argument to the contrary, and the connection your making to racism isn't even a real argument.
>male female used to describe a single difference in humans
>"race" attempting to describe differences but failing over and over because the traits used to describe the different "races" exist in all the "races" to some degree

Get rekt baby.

Smiley face smiley face XD XD

>>61137560
>If there ceases to be the need for it, the words would stop being used
Right, they're already gradually disappearing.
I'm confused, again you admit I'm right.

> Gender studies are as much a science as psychology is (read: not at all).
Yawn. A STEMlarper. You do know that your tiny safespace is gonna be 100% updated to the newer, more intellectually rigorous, standards correct?
Like all human sciences and even your little precious gaymen already.

You're just a bitter conservative in denial, fighting tooth and nail against scientific progress much like back in Galileo's time.

Now go away as a self-admitted summerfag racist troll.

>>61137167
How think headed are you anon with your pseudo knowledge? >inb4adhominem
Do you really want to live in a world where gender is actually a social construct? Why not mutilate animals and load them up with hormones to see if they can tell the diffrence between sexes? What will that bring us? Do you think nature intended two genders to procreate or is it just a coincedencse that men and woman were raised diffrently and treated diffrently with diffrent roles? You can dress, inject, and change whatever you want with yourself, but you will always be either a man or a woman. Sex exists no matter what stupid shit people are spitting in any >current year.

PS, I've never vistied pol once and I can see why people would want to try things thats only acceptable for the oppisite gender, but claiming that you've transitioned is just scientifically stupid. I won't treat the person any diffrently, but what they are saying just isn't true.

If you your a girl and want to be more like a boy, go ahead. But don't claim you are a boy. That's all.

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>>61136206
Excellent bait

>>61137605
>What does exist?
A spectrum of "sexes"
>so any two humans can get together and procreate correct?
Some can some don't, much like sterile people.
You're using sexism-loaded categories.
Try to think in neutral terms please.
>This is the basis on which sex lies.
It's a flawed, heteronormative categorization don't you see?
Again, what are sterile, bisex and hermaphrodites

>The primary differing factor between male and female is internal, not external
What are phenotypes, and you should look it up, "races"(you should stop using the word btw) differ genetically as much as sexes.
I fully expect Academia to do what it's done to debunk racism in the next 5-10 years once we have enough people in place:
publish tons of literature using critical thinking to minimize and de-emphasize the toxic concepts.
>There is literally no argument to the contrary
I never said there was, I'm just saying they're outdated, deeply flawed, unscientific and arbitrary categories, and ultimately unimportant.
Especially as scientific progress will allow us to overcome the limitation in the foreseeable future.

You're essentially the guy arguing in 1700: "man can't fly because we can't make vehicles lighter than air! It's science!"
>"race" attempting to describe differences but failing over and over because the traits used to describe the different "races" exist in all the "races" to some degree
It's just a matter of time and effort anon.
You just happened to be educated during the twilight of sexist scientific literature.
Open your eyes.

>>61137623
>Sex exists no matter what stupid shit people are spitting in any >current year.

They said the same thing about race you dippoopy.
They even classified negroids as non belonging to homo sapiens sapiens.
Science gets updated all the time.
People like you back then were grunting just the same because given their limited and archaic knowledge-base they felt it was "political subversion" while it was just progresss.

The rest of your post is homo and transphobic so I won't ddress it. Sorry.

>>61137618
How are they disappearing? That on kyrghyz tranny worship forum you don't read them as often? You could get out of your echo chamber, explore real world.

Gender studies (and other) don't have what STEM has, rigorous base. There's no better example of social construct as these laughable, totally arbitrary fields.
I don't play gaymens, never had, and putting the dumbest and cringiest collective of people as an example of progress is not a good thing to do. If you want anyone to take you seriously, that is.
I'm not a racist, i said that ethnical race is arbitrary concept which has very little footing in genetics. Now geographical race, that is entirely different because, environment has big effect on genes. If you want to dismiss that two populations evolving in entirely different environments will be equal, you can keep reading that gender studies textbook because you're beyond retarded.

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>>61135996
Checkmate faggoo

I really wish /pol/ would stay in /pol/.

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>>61137736
>I'm not a racist
>geographical race, that is entirely different

>debian
>bloatware

you are the wrongest

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Conservatards into scientism are really cute.

>science is rigorous we finally know the stuff for sure! stupid primitive past generations KEK
>g-gender is real you guys it's science ignore all the science that is being published saying otherwise

>>61137800
>gender

Opinion discarded

How are there so many idiots here getting baited THIS easily?

>>61137754
>my pattern recognition skills are approximately as advanced as google's ai

congratulations on breathing too

>>61137858
am I being le troled

>>61137777
The common notion of a racist is that of ethnical racist. There are significant differences between geographical races, from biological standpoint. I don't think it's useful outside of biology to be concerned about a race of anything.

>>61137736

Ethnicity and race both exist. Even small genetic differences can have a large effect, just look at different dog breeds. Dogs are all genetically similar, yet they vary widely in many aspects.

>>61137896
let me point out that dog breeds are not like human races.

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wow what a clusterfuck of a thread.
/pol/ raids are really a thing uh?

tl;dr: homosexuality was classified as a mental illness up to the 70s.
Gender, Sex will disappear and be reclassified in a matter of years too.

Deal with it

>>61137916

The same underlying logic still applies.

>>61137896
>dog breed
>human races
Wew lad. No, ethnicity isn't a thing in the way geographic race is as you can easily change it. You can be born to aboriginals but be culturally a viking or what have you. But you can't be born an offspring of population that evolved in jungle and suddenly decide to inherit traits that are typical of populations that evolved in siberian tundra.

>>61137937
If my dog decides to hump a stuffed toy is it really a different gender than """male""" ????? No, it's Darwinism. Fuck 4chan I swear.

>>61138002
HOW DARE YOU SUPRESS THE GENDER IDENTITY OF YOUR DOG?!

>>61138002
If your dog gets HRT and/or a "sex" change than yes it ceases to be """""male"""""" idiot.

The fact it's into stuffed animals means its sexual orientation isn't """"heterosexual"""" either

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Where's the gijutsu?

>>61137997
>>>/pol/

there's no such thing as "geographic" race.

It's just a racist dog whistle.

>>61138044
Learn genetics please. Two populations evolving in two different environment will have different traits. Again, it's not useful outside of biology to be concerned about race of anything, but it's a real and valid property.

>>61138034
> using the term "sexual orientation" in 2017
How barbaric.

>>61137352
Using XY chromosomes as the focal point is a a priori fallacy genius.
You could create near-infinite human categories using other sets of chromosomes just the same.

>>61137880

Well it has a direct affect on us quite often.

Look at how taming animals worked out for us?
Also honey bees. Japanese honey bees came up with a method to defeat hornets instead of getting rekt.

Simple fact is that on a practical level race matters and in almost every measurable metric human race also matters. It's just taboo to talk about it or acknowledge it because

>muh racism

y'all do understand that racism implies viewing one race superior to others, not just that there are phenotypical differences between say black and white skinned people?

so I don't understand why you peeps even bother responding to that retarded samefagging tumblr bait who continues spouting inane shit about racism that is factually wrong

>>61137997
>You can be born to aboriginals but be culturally a viking or what have you.

You first have to define what culture is.

I believe that culture is in fact biological, or genetic, or rather stems from genetics.

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>>61137997

>be born black
>easily change that

yeh wrong I'm afraid

>be born to aboriginals but culturally be a viking

holy shit nigga what the fuck are you talking about

>>61138142
>racism implies viewing one race superior to others

That's literally not true.
By this reasoning white nationalists are NOT racist then.

Racism=power+privilege

Racism=claiming there's such a thing as different categories of humans based on whatever racistwhistle is en vogue at the moment be it "race", "ethnicity", "pigmentation", "geographical race" or whatever

>>61138080
> it's not useful outside of biology

Life IS biology.

>>61135732
>MUH JAWLINE
You people need to stop, really.
You're no better at telling sex than you are at having it.

>>61138199
It's all a huge troll (or meme) at this point.

>>61138141
Do you really compare eugenics to the natural evolution? You might as well compare crops with monsanto. The differences relevant outside of biology are so small across races that they can, for all practical purposes, be ignored. That's why everyone laughs at you when you say niggers are dumber. If we ignore the falsified data, the difference is so small that it can be ignored, just like the difference between male and female. That's why you don't hear anyone credible say "niggers are dumber" or "females are dumber", not because racism and feminism.

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>>61137167

>sex is a man made category just like race but they're irrelevant and we can pretend to be like each other therefore who cares

were you dropped on your head as a child?

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>>61138177
>Racism=power+privilege

mfw

>Racism=claiming there's such a thing as different categories of humans

Everything CAN be categorized you dumb nigger.

>>61138177
>By this reasoning white nationalists are NOT racist then.
Exactly you brainwashed cuckold.

>>61138167
Are you a retard? I'm not saying you can be born black and change that, that's a trait of geographic race. First know ehat we're discussing, then feel free to join in.

Can you faggots stop responding to bait and post more of that girl(male) or just tell me where I can find more of her/him/it?

>>61138228
THIS.
One standard deviation or more in IQ is negligible.

>>61137705
The reason quotation marks were used is that I agree the term "race shouldn't be used. Your argument then, is that because hermaphodytes, bisex, and other sexes exist, that male and female don't? Are you serious?
Get lol'd on kid. The reason hermaphodytes and bisex individuals has those classifications is because they share traits with the two possibilities that exist. It doesn't make sense to say that because something in between a male and a female exist, that male and females don't exist. In fact, it reinforces it.
In fact I'm not argueing that man can't fly, I'm argueing that males don't have female reproductive organs, and females don't have male reproductive organs. There is no way that the two can be compared.

But in fact. We do agree that one day science will render sex a useless classification, as someday the sex organs your born will be as easily modified as any modifiable thing today. Your literally trying to argue that the classification of individuals based on the sex organs they are born with is outdated, and that it doesn't matter. I agree it doesn't matter, but people are born with one or the other a majority of the time and, one can't naturally reproduce without both being present.

Do I think natural reproduction will be important? No. Do I think natural reproduction is important today? No. Do I think having a set of reproductive organs means anything other than your sex? No. But it is a solid way to describe the set of sex organs one is born with. The reason hermaphrodite even exists as a term is that there, obviously, Are people that are born with a mix of the two. This doesn't change the fact that there is an extremely solid way to describe the male and female sexes and that at least in those two cases, the definitions are very well defines and agreed upon in the scientific community.

To be clear. I'm not speaking of gender, although that should be obvious.

>>61138228
>>61138270
The difference between "nigger" and "white" is about 3-5 points on Stanford-Binet, same as the difference between male and female. The guy that falsified the data and put it at 15 points is in serious trouble now.

>>61138228
>natural evolution

Thankfully humans have bypassed evolution with this wonderful thing called civilization and socialism, now even defectives can breed endlessly without the interference of that evil fascist nature.

Don`t give me that naturalistic fallacy bullshit.

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>>61138099

How is it a priori fallacy you fucking tool?

We have mountains and mountains of empirical evidence and decades of observations to support these chromosomal categories.

What's more we also have decades of evidence that anything other than XX or XY categories generally result in defects and make up some zero point something percent of all births.

in b4 "I was just pretending to be retarded"

>>61136182
Well, it identifies race. I guess "criminal" can only be applied if you consider non-white human, though.

>>61138291
That's why i admit sex might become irrelevant in the future. But you compared artificially enhanced races with those naturally produced. You can't do that with humans yet, because morals or whatever. Until we have superhumans running among us, the differences between races are insignificant.

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>>61138285
>Stanford-Binet
https://lesacreduprintemps19.files.wordpress.com/2012/12/racial-differences-in-iq-item-analysis.pdf

>>61138177

please leave and never return to this board

how is it that you people only ever manage to endear a stupid amount of rage and frustration directed towards you

actually think about that after you leave here
>why do people react so negatively towards me?

I know you'll probably think
>Ahh because they're just afraid of the truth

this is not why

>>61138293

The categorization BASED on those two chromosomes as a meaningful discriminant is the a priori fallacy.

I.E. CHOOSING TO USE THOSE TO CLASSIFY PEOPLE INSTEAD OF WHATEVER OTHER PAIR

You didn't understand my poast.

>>61138344
Yes can u read u stupid idiot poltard?
that's what he said.

IF YOU ACCOUNT FOR THE PRIVILEGE the ""niggers"" are only 2-3-4 point scoring lower.

If you take an african and raise him/her in a middle class, white family, they score about the same as biological whites

>>61135204
>still using OS with (((systemd)))
Joke's on you. I use Windows.

>>61138344
>citing one of the 4 falsified papers
Kekarino

>>61138337

I was being ironic.

>But you compared artificially enhanced races with those naturally produced.

In this case all domestic animals and plants are artificial, by going further we could say that anything humans get their grubby hands on is in fact artificial, which may, or may not be true.

>the differences between races are insignificant.

Yet they aint. At least to the point where trying to force different groups will inevitably lead to conflict. Equality just does not exist in nature.

>>61138381
http://www.nytimes.com/books/first/j/jencks-gap.html

you're making shit up at this point

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>>61135204
systemd is a stinking affront to humanity, a terrible departure from the approach that made linux so cozy and decent. But. That's ok, nothing lasts forever.

>>61138391
>equality doesn't exist in nature
What do you mean by this? Every "race" (not a classification that be made with any sort of scientific semblance) is part of the human species of animal.
What in equality are you speaking of in nature?

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>>61138374

But that`s bullshit and you know it

>>61138356
Says the social outcast /pol/tard.
You do realize you're the laughing stock of the century right?

Nobody agrees with you ever outside ur 4chin bubble.

>>61138416
That's because you have to account for the TRAUMA of adoption for inter-racial cases due to racism.

So, if you account for privilege, and then you account for trauma, then blacks score within 3-4 points of whites probably.

It's called Statistics.

>>61138411

Neither people, or races are equal, or identical in ability, or mentality. There are clear traits that some groups, or individuals posses that others don`t-

>>61135204
>Debian are bloatware
Sorry, you must be mentally challenged.

>>61138442
Except Science disagrees with you buddy. ;^)

>>61138228

Breeding two animals is not eugenics, same as humans breeding in a distinct pattern is not eugenics either.

>It can be ignored
Consciously maybe

Unconsciously how many black friends do you hang out with?

How many whites marry blacks?

How many whites prefer to listen to black music? I personally enjoy rap/hip-hop etc but not many white people did until Eminem lol

Say what you like but birds of a feather flock together typically.

>Differences between male and female
Massive. In terms of sports females don't even compete with males in a huge majority of sports. Even on an amateur average level most males destroy females so much that most females don't get a shot at teams or competitions.

What's the reason for that? Oh right genetics. Look at that, another practical example of how genetic differences have real life consequences.

Men dominate everything with the sole exception of fashion and modeling. So women dominate at looking pretty basically.

Regards race, black men dominate basketball and often dominate running sports.

You're going to tell me that all of this is a massive coincidence and that if we just ignore the false data that all these differences are just circumstantial?

>>61138392
Nice. Now compare rednecks with niggers (or MSc niggers with MSc whites) and tell me the difference in IQ.
Spoiler: it's 3-5 points

>>61138437

There was literally no mention of either biological, or adoptive parents, or their genetic makeup. Intelligence is however hereditary for the most part.

>>61138454

I don`t consider feelgood pop-science as science.

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>>61138426

yeh guess that's why feminism is so popular and Hillary won by millions and millions of votes

oh wait..

>>61138470
So you admit you were making shit up and you NEED da privilegde raycism to estimate the 3-5 points?

And why is it that in shitholes like dirt poor eastern european countries they score the same as non hispanic whites in the US, beating even this imaginary "negro" sample of yours?

And why is it that even blacks in 200,000$ tax brackets families score the same or lower than white trash 20,000$ brackets hwhites?

They should be scoring the same as 200,000$ hwhites or only have 3-4%lower average points in things like SAT and whatnot

>>61138460
>Men dominate everything with the sole exception of fashion and modeling

You forgot gymnastics you disgusting sexist pig.

>>61138521
Actually Men dominate fashion and modeling.
Most fashion designers are male

>>61138521

I forgot street prostitution too actually now that I think about it.

Men run the show but female prostitutes would certainly dominate the numbers and activity itself.

>>61138460
Selective breeding as in forcing two individuals to produce offspring is eugenics. Humans choosing their partners on their own is not eugenics.

How much of it is environmental pressure? I can guarantee you (white) that if you grew up in black ghetto, you would choose blacks over whites. Vice versa if you (black) grew up in Hong Kong you would choose asians.

I specifically mentioned IQ as the only metric. Of course the difference between sexes is huge, i'm not advocating it's useless to differentiate those. Read the whole chain, i've been advocating sexual dimorphism the whole thread. This was an example of a metric in which the difference is negligible, thus can be ignored.

As for basketball vs other. You tell me, because idk. There seems to be no difference in physical performance among races so it is something else that makes them more likely to be good at it.

>>61138479
>intelligence is primarily hereditary
What evidence do you have to back up your claim, and my what measure fo you go about measuring intelligence? I was born to two Crack heads, in a line of rednecks, who has gone on to receive a master's degree from a prestigious computer science uni in Boston. I have helped publish papers in advanced number theory(entropy related), and currently am working on a crypto related white paper. The only thing the pushed me to this was the fact that a family member died when I was 12 and I received enough money to go to uni. I literally got my hs diploma with a. 5 GPA and went on to do the things I mentioned.

Heredity has less to do with it than you think.
Societies idea of what your heredity means haha much larger effect.

>>61138540
>Most fashion designers are fags

fixd it for you

>>61138569

Wtf, I want to be female now

>>61138518
Holy shit you're retarded.
I can't even begin to explain statistics to you, you're simply too dumb to understand.
Then again /pol/ has an average IQ of 80, lower than even some African countries kek

>>61138579
>I was born to two Crack heads, in a line of rednecks
So you're white? Brother, you're proving his point.
:^(

>>61138579
> I was born to two Crack heads, in a line of rednecks, who has gone on to receive a master's degree from a prestigious computer science uni in Boston

Consider yourself an exception then. If you are that smart you should have come to realize that anecdotal evidence does not mean something is a universal truth that applies to everything.

>The general figure for the heritability of IQ, according to an authoritative American Psychological Association report, is 0.45 for children, and rises to around 0.75 for late teens and adults.[5][6] In simpler terms, IQ goes from being weakly correlated with genetics, for children, to being strongly correlated with genetics for late teens and adults. The heritability of IQ increases with age and reaches an asymptote at 18–20 years of age and continues at that level well into adulthood.

Straight from Wiki

>>61138518
SAT after changes is bad for estimating IQ. Use stanford-binet or more modern metric. I come from one of those poor european countries and let me tell you why we score: our schools are not piss-easy. As for IQ, there is no significant difference when you compare individuals from same environments. It's no privilege raycysum. If you grew up in environment actively disadvantaging intellect, you would be less intelligent. How much money your money makes doesn't correlate strongly with how you score on IQ test. Surely drake's kids won't be as discouraged from intellect as he was, but surely he's not going to lead them towards academic stardom. Compare ghetto white with ghetto black and the difference goes away.

>>61138678
Ok so again, if you disregard ALL avaliable evidence across all metrics and countries and history then you then can make up that negroes are just as intelligence.

3yo blacks already score 75-80% of blacks in the Standford-Binet.

Now what you're talking about is simply outliers.
Meaning the few blacks that score "comparably" (still lower) as average whites are the outliers on the right side of the bell curve.
You'rve already shown to be a liar dude.
Just give up.

>>61138777
*intelligent
*75-80% of whites

I just reported all racists on this thread to the SPLC.

>>61138809
To who?

So...As a normie, what's the alternative to systemd?

>>61138857
normie has no business using gnu/linux
get out

>>61138870
So...As a normie, what's the alternative to systemd?

>>61138885
FreeBSD.

>>61138885
normie has no business using gnu/linux
get out

>>61135800
ahh yes the hwndu losers

>>61138576

I'd argue we are by and large choosing of our own free will.

>Environmental pressure
What pressure? If you're a white male nothing is stopping you from fucking and marrying a black female. There are plenty of contact points in modern society.

If there was a strong preference for it then it would happen. There isn't, so it doesn't. We aren't seeing this grand mixing of races despite it being probably easier to mate with a black female. Largely we still see large cultivations of white populations and black populations because both are so overwhelmingly large that any mixing is a drop in the bucket at this point.

It's not so much pressure as just straight up preference. If white guys found black chicks more desirable than white chicks tomorrow you would see dramatic changes.

Regards physical performance, whites have fallen behind in everything except the most restricted sports

Football/soccer is an example of where whites used to dominate but clubs quickly started bringing in non-whites when they realized they performed better. It's fair to say white people no longer dominate football/soccer on any level really.

For anyone invested in something like football then taking race into account was very profitable at one point in time because at some stage one person thought "hey why don't we just get those brazilians to play for our team?"

Rugby - new zealand all blacks

Golf - Tiger Woods

American Football - Tons of blacks now

Sprinting athletics - dominated by blacks for a while now

Negligible differences are negligible but to go back to your claim about race being irrelevant outside of biology, that's simply not true. It can have sweeping changes if the right circumstances are met. Sports is a massive example of that where we saw white dominance for a long time, then as blacks were introduced to the sport they quickly came to dominate it.

>>61136145

From a respecting your freedom view point, its the best your gonna get

>>61135204
>still Using gnu/linux
>talk about bloat but buy a expensive laptop with over powerfull hardware that you don't use at half capacity

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>>61138963
>All Blacks
Kek. Do you think they're called that because they're all black?

>>61135732
>>61135848
>>61135860
>>61136055
You are delusional.
I'm a forever alone virgin (30+) and even I know that she is a 100% real woman and very hot too.

The biggest difference between men and women are the hip bones. In females they are further apart to aid birth while in males they are closer together to increase balance, agility and strength. This is the most obvious and essential sexual dimorphism is humans.

No amount of surgery or add-ons can change this difference so she is very clearly a woman. Hip bones never lie.

>>61137458
I use Debian net install, is it just as easy as removing that New Systemd App and installing sysv?

I thought the D gets in everything, wouldnt there be more to install then just the init?

>>61135800
Why is it always the most genetically deficient mofos that pull that nazi master race bs

To all you people arguing about gender, its pretty fucking simple, theres male and theres female. you can get a surgery though and if your a convincing faggot I wont know, if not, ill call you a chick if you want, but I dont have to think it

can we talk about systemd now, this has turned into tumblr at best, or some powers are derailing this thread at worse

I do wish more distros offers a systemd free OS, if only because of how controversial it is

>>61135365
Right now my "Would lick dat ass" boner turned into "Would non-consensually rape her in said ass"

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>>61139259
>its pretty fucking simple, theres male and theres female
WRONG
> ill call you a chick if you want, but I dont have to think it
WRONG

>>61139190
You do realize half the room is POCs right?
You're a disgusting racist pos.

>>61135204

When the hell did anyone say Mint wasnt bloatware. the whole point is to give a windows like experience, with non-free software and drivers, like literally all of them

>>61137777
Acknowledging that there are different ethnical groups, some of which may or may not be better at running and others that are better off in cold regions than others and that all of this is perfectly fine is not racist.

What is racist, tho, is not allowing somebody into your store based on their skin colour/shape of nose/shape of cheek bones/shape of eyes and whatever the fuck else.

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>>61139387
>Acknowledging that there are different ethnical groups, some of which may or may not be better at running and others that are better off in cold regions than others and that all of this is perfectly fine is not racist
>It's literal racism(from Wiki):
Racism is the belief that humans can be meaningfully defined into biological ethnic categories in order to seperate supposed superior from inferior races and/or generally showing discrimination or hostility against a person(s) on the basis of their race.[2][3] It is based upon the irrational belief that superficial differences among races "determine cultural or individual achievement."[4] Racism manifests in negative discrimination based upon race in a particular culture. Positive discrimination based upon race is usually viewed as ameliorative (e.g.,affirmative action) of past and present injustices in a deeply racist culture. As such, it isn't based on notions of racial superiority and most therefore do not consider such policies to be racist.


Oh, almost forgot:

>>>/pol/

>>61139120

No but they were probably one of the first teams to have a star non-white player who dominated on the pitch. Jonah Lomu is basically a god for them now.

Rugby is bogged down in middle class pretentiousness so the idea of trying a non-white team and just getting in 12 Jonah Lomu equivalents for a first string team will never happen.

>>61138667
I'm literally loling at that figure. My whole fucking neighborhood is filled with Crack babies that have gone on to become, according to society " highly intelligent". All of our parents were fucking retarded. IF they had taken an IQ test, they would have scored far below 80. My mother still literally can't do basic division, and my father died of a cocaine overdose. My neighbor takes care of his parents in the house behind his, they literally, I'm not kidding here, can't read. No joke. He's the fucking doctor.

Look, IQ scores show how well you can reason your way through logic problems sure. But they don't show intelligence

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>>61139465
More on this in pic related.

It's amazing how common is racism be it internalized or just ignorance-derived in your average self-professing "moderate". Even "progressive" in many instances.

That is why Social Justice Theory is so important now more than ever.

>>61138885
OpenRC

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>>61139465

>Wikipedia sources
lul

>acknowledging differences
>discrimination and prejudice
nice false equivalence dick muncher

>>61139522
Are you retarded yourself though?
You're attempting to use anecdotal evidence about fucking drug addicts to disprove IQ or IQ differences.

>>61138963
Daily reminder football is rich white men buying blacks and smashing them together in between commercial breaks

>>61139573
>nice false equivalence dick muncher
Oh really?

Then explain to me how you're not gonna necessarily be forced to admit one "group" is superior to the other if you allow people to recognize racial differences.

Let's take african americans as an example:
>superior athleticism
>bigger average penile measurement
>more prone to arts, creativity, rhythm, etc.

Therefore SUPERIOR to the "white" group.

It necessarily leads to racial superiority ideas.

why the fuck do you stupid fags care so much, whoevers arguing go fuck yourselves

>>61139590
it's a post-op guy in bra and panties, what of it

>>61139143
>Hip bones never lie.

DOHOHOHO

>>61138177
>>racism implies viewing one race superior to others
>That's literally not true.
>By this reasoning white nationalists are NOT racist then.

So you are claiming whites are, in fact, superior to other races? Did I get that right?

>>61139387
>What is racist, tho, is not allowing somebody into your store based on their skin colour/shape of nose/shape of cheek bones/shape of eyes and whatever the fuck else.

Nah, that`s just freedom of association.

>>61139580
According to my IQ scores? Almost. I score a 94-96 depending on the test.
>still have a master's degree
>still contribute more to academia than most
>still considered "highly intelligent"
And the front of my brain literally doesn't function, because of the consumption of unprocessws methamphetamine ingredients as an infant.
My point being that what you consider to be a marker of intelligence is not useful. IQ scores mean almost nothing.

>>61139522

Have you considered their mental capacity, or lack thereof might be the cause of crack and other drug abuse?

>>61139701
>Did I get that right?
No you did not.
The argument was that in order for it to be racism it needs "superiority claims".

But white nationalists allegedly don't claim to be superior, they just want segregation (officially).

Yet they are racist as we can all clearly agree upon.

THEREFORE racism is not simply "racial superiority" but even recognizing categories based on "race" is racist in itself already.

>>61139637

Because superiority is a subjective term, no one is an authority on superiority since the human race is an ongoing thing

But reactionary fucks hear the word and instantly assume either "truth" or "racism".

white people are superior at ice hockey
black people are superior at basketball

what's so hard to acknowledge about that?

Neither of these things are fixed and can change at anytime. They're likely based on genetics and preference as well as some circumstance

Just because you insist it leads to racial superiority ideas doesn't mean it will.

I can objectively say black people are better at this thing and white people are better at this thing without having to say black people on the whole are better or white people on the whole are better.

Both races can have their strengths and weaknesses.

If you fucks stopped looking at everything in such a black and white manner, good or bad, racist or muh allies, you might actually get somewhere.

But because autistic ideologues and religious types simply don't have the mental capacity to group the world into anything other than binary categories here we are.

You're either x or y and fuck you if you think y. Welcome to the modern generation's logic.

>>61139767
Nigga you got half ur brain burned off by drugs, are sub<100 IQ, yet you found some niche employment where you somehow are able to function.

Excuse us if you don't take you seriously when you claim IQ is meaningless.

>>61139779
>THEREFORE racism is not simply "racial superiority" but even recognizing categories based on "race" is racist in itself already.

We have to lobotomize everyone so no one could be racist ever again.

>>61139813
ok mr neutrality, then what are whites "superior" at that makes them EQUAL to black people?

>blacks are physically superior
>penile superior

It follows that LOGICALLY "whites" are INFERIOR ceteris paribus(whihc seems to be the case).

No amount of feelgoody vague dancing around truth can fix that.

>>61139665
Do you want everyone to be a male? that says a lot about you.

>>61139813
Yea you're arguing for a system of *doublethink* where somehow you have to recognize racial differences but *force* yourself to avoid taking the facts to the logical conclusion, which is that the black race is superior.

Makes no sense.
Insecure much?

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>>61135996
It's not a man

for all those in doubt before fapping pic related

>>61139774
You mean that their environment had a large negative effect on their intelligence? You mean to say that environment can have a larger impact than heredity? WHOAH MAN.

>>61139854

He is somewhat right though, polarization leads nowhere.

Equality does not exist outside of math however, reality is too nuanced for that. Having different groups together will however lead to conflict, resentment and polarization.

>>61139819
>niche employment
Get lol'd on. I literally have people sending me job offers in the 6 figures monthly. OK. More like a few times a year. But still.

Grin face on ya boi

>>61139898
Are you seriously comparing being a literal crackhead to being black?

>>61139905

In other news people die when they are killed.

This however doesn`t change that genetics is the foundation of all life, including humans. Your resentment for your parents wont change this.

>>61139944

fuck meant to reply to >>61139898

>>61139934
No, even worse.
He's saying that crackhead babies with half their brain burned off perform better than normal healthy negroes

Only he's literally too dumb to know what he's saying poor thing

>>61138374
but they don't. they play mobile games take drugs and nig around.

>>61139962
Also:
He's arguing that his redneck crackhead babies neighbourood of bottom of the barrel white trash gave rise to a generation of offsprings more successful than 95 or so% of african americans PROVING that "socioeconomic" factors are BS.

Oh boy.

>This thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79hRMiSMxFY

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>>61138437

you've stacked fallacy after fallacy ontop of itself.

>>61139905
>polarization leads nowhere

So... doublethink yea?

We need to brainwash kids to hold two different ideas at the same time as true.

Still waiting on arguments as to why BLACKS are not superior given their recognized excellence in those 2-3 fields.

What is the white man superior at in comparison?
We're talking concrete measurable things here, not some bs about some weird exception field of employment.

mh-mh

>>61139854

>what are whites superior at?
math, fashion, metalworking, industrial work, technology in general, design, music, scientific endeavors, war, education in general

I'm sure there's more but I don't see your point.

>big dongs
Yeh sure, I didn't deny that so I don't know why you're making a big deal of it.

Like I said, none of this is fixed so it's all somewhat irrelevant. Black people were fairly oppressed in the past but that's no longer the case today and we're still seeing shifts.

Likewise penis enlargement pills also exist.

>fix that
It's not about fixing anything, you've fundamentally missed my point that emotions are irrelevant to fact and that in actuality the majority of people don't give a shit that black people have big dongs or dominate at basketball.

Likewise most black people probably don't care that white people dominate ball room dancing or math.

Both people largely acknowledge that you can do what you like if you put your mind to it since open faced universal discrimination and racism is a thing of the past.

Name one thing white people CANNOT do, or one thing that black people CANNOT do by rule of law or authority.

>>61140064
>math, fashion, metalworking, industrial work, technology in general, design, music, scientific endeavors, war, education in general

Source? You're making stuff up.
Why would they be better at this stuff anyway?
Are you saying blacks are dumber?

So if you take a white average guy and a black average guy the latter will perform WORSE in intellectual fields?

WTF man

>>61139465
acknowledging different races strengths isn't the same thing as showing hostility toowards a race.

>>61140054

What fields?

Running and sportsball? These might be important traits for them, but as a whole specific traits are arbitrary. You seem to show signs of resentment, perhaps this just proves my previous post right.

>>61140002
Both of you (or the Samefag) are literally projecting. The only argument being made is that intelligence can't ve measured via IQ tests, and that environment has more to do than heredity.

Lolololol I've literally never said anything about the color of someones skin.

Hmmm. Maybe you are nervous because your wrong? Or perhaps your ashamed because despite being born to intelligent parents AND being spoon fed opportunities, you still ended up in your parents basement.

Good for you Jimmy.

>>61139875

The logical conclusion is that competition is critical to evolution and genetic diversity is how we move forward. White and black are not the only races, most animal species on earth are incredibly varied.

You can't take the facts to a logical conclusion if you don't know all the facts.

You're not so much taking the facts to a logical conclusion as jumping to a conclusion based on what you think might happen.

>the black race is superior overall
then why don't they dominate? better yet since you're so assured of your logical conclusion explain how they are superior over whites, asians, indians, arabs, etc

>>61140126
> intelligence can't ve measured via IQ tests

Well no, but its a rough estimate.

>>61140126
No nigga you're literally retarded.
You're claiming that the environment is both the most important factor while at the same time saying it's meaningless.

Try to think it out and realize why you're not making any sense.

And the only one projecting and being a child bragging about some job is you btw.
But then again you're excused, as a self admited retard is not expected to follow basic human etiquette.

>>61140183
>then why don't they dominate? better yet since you're so assured of your logical conclusion explain how they are superior over whites, asians, indians, arabs, etc
Yes that's the 1000000 dollar question isn't it?

And the burden of proof is on you, who's the one saying all races are equal despite reality showing the opposite.

I said black people are superior in X, Y, then logically they're superior to whites, as you can't claim any other physical or mental characteristic that would make them equal.

Discuss.

>>61140218
Thanks dad. I really appreciate it. Tell me more about me.

;^)

>>61139465
>there are people who have dark skin and THIS IS PERFECTLY FINE
>my neighbour is a cool guy
>just think of him as "my cool guy neighbour", not caring about his dark skin
>Is a manager at some oil company, earns enough to buy a new car each month.
>my new boss? Yeah, he does his job well, stern but fair.
>Where's Jamal? Oh he got caught staling last week and was fired. Yeah, that was a stupid thing to do.
>there are people with dark skin. Fact.

or

>my race is superior, all others are subhuman scum that should be exterminated.
>my neighbour is a nigger, fucking unemployed lowlife
>bet that nigger stole that Porsche.
>How I know? He's a nigger, that's how.
>Some nigger showed up today, thinking he can order me around. I take no orders from no niggers. Probably stole that suit, too.
>Nig next cubicle got fired for being a nig(stealing). See? SEE? I told you them black fucks are all criminal.
>fucking nigger trash needs to die

DO YOU NOT FUCKING SEE THE FUCKING DIFFEENCE????

>>61140240
I haven't said anything you didn't say yourself you poor thing.

You said you're retarded yourself.
You said you're a crack/heroine baby with half the brain burned off.
You've been bragging about your job.

I simply and respectfully showed that you're not making any sense, as the examples you're producing are directly opposite of your own claim.

We're all friends here, there's no need to get nasty.

>>61138963
Environmental pressure as in you get weird looks when dating outside your race for example. It's still not considered normal. Even in the shithole i live in, when someone from poor background is dating someone from middle class, they get shittalked, same for race mixing.
There is undeniably preference of race when it comes to choosing your partner, as the online dating data shows. How much of it is environmental is debatable, but i do think it's a major reason to this huge gap between blacks and everyone else. The gap, as it is now, cannot be explained by genetics only. Genetics are not enough to cause a gap this huge. If you compare equivalent individuals from any race, difference is always negligible, even when it comes to physical or mental abilities. The current difference has to be largely environmental. That's not saying that blacks are discriminated against or some such, it's merely the consequence of generations upon generations of difference in environmental pressure.
See how recently, white females started getting baboon asses typical for black females. There are traits that are desirable in every race, environment plays a big role in these matters.

For every sport dominated by blacks, there is another dominated by whites. Of the more popular sports, hockey, *athlon, pretty much all winter olympics and half of summer olympic. The difference is negligible, but at the top level (like top basketball teams or PhDs), even the negligible difference counts, that's part of the reason we see few black PhDs and few white basketball players. And irrelevance outside biology was obviously hyperbole, the point was it doesn't matter 99.999% of the time.

>>61138777
That's not how it works, bud. Your hypothesis is blacks are mentally inferior on genetic level. Which means you have to normalize environment as not to include its effects. If you exclude environment, blacks are within 5 points of whites which is negligible difference (unless we're talking Nobels)

>>61140098

>You're making stuff up
Literally all technology has been invented by whites. From pianos to giant artillery cannons.

There are a tiny amount of black inventors with the only prominent one I can think of being the guy that invented the super soaker.

>Why?
Irrelevant

>Are you saying blacks are dumber?
No

On average yes, but that is an average. An average doesn't mean ALL white people are better than ALL black people now does it?

Unless you want to be a sensationalist.

There are incredibly smart black people out there, so there is provably the potential for that average to be brought up.

Even the left acknowledges this.

So I don't know what your argument is anymore, blacks and whites are indistinguishable in everything?

Yet both the left and the right politically completely disagree, and all empirical evidence disagrees.

A rational argument might help your case instead of
>WTF man

>>61138777
>>61140289
Furthermore, heritability of IQ increases with age so IQ of young individuals is the least heritable (read genetically determined).

>>61140256

In other news people like to be around others like them.

Who knew?

>>61137937
homosexuality is a mental illness, jewish people forced them to reclassify it using political power.

there has never been a /pol/ raid on /g/ you stupid drama queen pillow biter.

>>61138044
racist dog whistle? does it sound like racial slurs when you blow it?

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGOOOOOOT

>>61140289
Holy shit you're delusion.

How does it feel to constantly have to doublethink just to keep a straight face and not go insane?

>If you exclude environment, blacks are within 5 points of whites which is negligible difference (unless we're talking Nobels)
That is literally untrue.
If you were to do the same for whites, meaning only consider 10% or so of the more wealthy families, then their IQ would be 110, and we sould be back to square one.

What do you not understand about:
>3yo blacks already score 75-80% of blacks in the Standford-Binet.


Are you repeating dumbass talking points you read on tumblr or reddit or something

>>61140239

>who's the one saying all races are equal

I'm not and never did, I SPECIFICALLY SAID both races have their strengths and weaknesses.

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>>61140308
>Are you saying blacks are dumber?
>On average yes

>>61140287
Oh. Thanks man. I'll stop being nasty K. Thanks. Sorry.
:(

>>61140423
It's ok friend!
It's normal to get heated during political discussions.
We're ok <3

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>>61140371
>both races have their strengths and weaknesses.

Which are...?

If this was an RPG, what would their stats be

>>61139871
what does it say about me uwu

>>61135800
white people baka

>>61140485
well most obviously sun resistance vs. vitamin intake from sunlight depends a lot on skin color. I would expect a white person could survive on a less diverse diet and less direct sunlight than a dark skinned person could, and inversely a darker skinned person would be better adapted to sustained direct sunlight, would probably live longer without shelter in those conditions.

there are thousands of miniscule differences between different ego-ethnicities but that to me is the biggest related to skin color.

>>61140596
but why are blacks physically superior to da whiteis and why doesn't that make them the superior race

>>61139315
>racist
>literally everyone in the pic is doing the nazi salute

>>61140289

>Environment
I'll concede we will probably never know but you're potentially right at least.

Both black and white populations are so big that mating within those communities will almost always outstrip mixing of the races even in an optimal environment.

Germany and Paris are probably the closest thing to a testbed to see if in an environment where races are completely mixed if you still have white and black populations amassing. So logically assuming you're correct then over time white populations will disappear from these countries entirely.

Personally I still think regardless of environment at some basic instinctual level we prefer people that are as similar to ourselves as possible. We want someone within the tribe essentially as we clearly have no desire to stray very far outside of it.

In nature you get species of deer, birds, etc from just one genetic mutation breaking from the herd and continually mating.

You almost never get two different species of pack animals breeding directly together. Even if it's just a minor variation. I dunno I could be wrong on that, maybe there are examples of that but I'd imagine it's at best rare.

>>61140596
*geo-ethnicities.

on a side note sherpas use less oxygen and inuits form more natural body fat around the skin. humans in many parts of Africa evolved with an interesting relationship with malaria and sickle cell disease, making sickle celled Africans immune to malaria. A real life rpg with all the different races would be interesting but our efforts are better spent actually learning about real people

>>61140621

because being physically superior doesn't make them superior?

basic understanding of evolution required to understand this point I should say

>>61140475

/thread

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>>61140384

>>61140681
so what u be saying is someone that's physically better and has the same intelligence is the same as another that's weaker?

Do you even know what evolution is

>>61140648

What you said is absolutely correct. Only utopian ideologues are the ones who propagate "multiculturalism" and other such conflicting ideas. The end result of this will be that which resembles Brazil and India, or some balkanized region.

>>61138963
>It's fair to say white people no longer dominate football/soccer on any level really.
You can't be serious with this comment. You have a point with those sports, you could even say Women's Tennis with Serena Williams dominating most of the time, but soccer?
I guess CR7, Messi, Suarez, Iniesta, Bale [...] are part of B teams then. Also, there's not a single black man besting Men's Tennis, but that could be for other reasons.
I agree with the rest, but some sports like soccer don't have as much environmental pressure to avoid them getting to the top. If Pelé or Ronaldinho are not excellent examples, I don't know who is, yet they usually are the exception, not the rule.

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>>61140648
>Germany and Paris are probably the closest thing to a testbed to see if in an environment where races are completely mixed if you still have white and black populations amassing. >So logically assuming you're correct then over time white populations will disappear from these countries entirely.

and this is bad how?

also /pol/ BTFO

>>61139875
What double think?

One can handle heat better and doesn't get burned by the sun as easy.

The other catches sun burns easily but doesn't instantly freeze to death at temperatures below -20°C

Like any of this fucking matters when both live in fucking Aachen where it's always 15°C and raining 24/7 all year long, maybe except during that one day we call "summer".

>>61140800
One is physically superior (black) the other one inferior (white).

Yet you'll insist to the point of frothing from your mouth they are both equal somehow.

= doublethink

>>61140681
physically superior is a perspective relative to their environment. being better adapted for survival and reproduction in your specific environment goes a lot longer than just being more muscular, or faster, or bigger, or anything like that. with size and strength comes a sharp demand in calorie and nutrient intake, which is not always an evolutionarily stable strategy for the population.

>>61140836
>a sharp demand in calorie and nutrient intake
Source for blacks conforming to this?

Or is it doublethink again? Empty platitudes to justify your colorblind insecurity?

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>>61140784
>Because they're destroying the city in the meantime with their antics, with more and more of these no-go zones, wasting taxpayer money, and often targeting the natives. All these no-go zones should be cleaned out and the fuckers deported.
>>Muslim are only 12% of France’s population but make up 70% of France’s prisoners.
>http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802560.html
>>In France, 70% of burglaries are committed by first or second generation immigrants.
>http://www.atlantico.fr/decryptage/aucun-lien-entre-immigration-et-delinquance-france-peu-genereuse-avec-immigres-radiographie-quelques-cliches-bien-pensants-peau-1875772.html
>>In France, more than 40% of young Muslims believe that terrorism is justified.
>http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
>>In France, 96% of rejected asylum seekers remain in the country.
>http://www.thelocal.fr/20151020/france-deports-just-four-percent-of-asylum-seekers
>>One in five young French Muslims believes that terrorism is often or sometimes justified.
>http://www.pewresearch.org/files/old-assets/pdf/muslim-americans.pdf#page=60
>>15% of French people back ISIS.
>https://www.rt.com/news/181076-isis-islam-militans-france/
>>40% of French Muslims do not have French friends.
>http://www.pressesdesciencespo.fr/fr/livre/?GCOI=27246100034710
>>There are 751 Muslim ghettos in France.
>http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/paris_isis_and_the_externalization_of_evil.html
>>In France, 93% of Muslims vote for socialism.
>http://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2015/11/paris_isis_and_the_externalization_of_evil.html
>>France's IQ drops 4 points per decade because of African immigration
>http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0160289615001221

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>>61135800
>dat mavis cosplay tho

>>61140864
>Because they're destroying the city in the meantime with their antics
Stopped reading right it.

Yawn, more /pol/ falsehoods.
Can you take a look at the REAL world for once?
SPOILERS: it doesn't conform to your worldview at all.

>>61140749

Are you being stupid on purpose?
>in b4 hurr durr I was just pretending to be retarded

You asked me if being physically superior means being superior period. It doesn't.

Want evidence? Humanity, all of fucking humanity you fucking idiot.

Does a human look physically superior to a lion or a tiger?

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>>61140893
>Does a human look physically superior to a lion or a tiger?

You just went full retard bro.
I get it, you can't admit blacks are superior to you bc it hurts.

Yet evidence is plain for all to see.

A=stronger, faster, same metabolic rate, same intelligence
B=weaker, slower, same metabolic rate, same intelligence

Even a 1st grader could tell you that A>B but m-muh colorblindness

if one race is stronger than another because they're people took eons to figure out agriculture and animal husbandry, and instead spend days/weeks at a time running to and from camp to gather food. I'm not sure that counts as better. I'd rather have a a bunch of fat farmers contributing to the wealth of my neighborhood than a bunch of toned muscly bushmen

>>61140823
Your understanding of biology is alarmingly bad.
Why do you think blacks have a bigger disposition to obesity than whites under the same caloric intake?
Why are there no black people on extremely low weather regions, and no white people in deserts?
Why is a white man the undisputed king of swimming, and a black man the undefeated champion of boxing?
WHat tasks do you think one race and the other had to do not for 2 millenia, but tens of millenia, that requires such different adaptation?

>>61140911
I wouldn't go to France

>>61140860
do you really need a source to tell you that a larger, stronger, and faster human is going to eat more food than a smaller, weaker, slower human?

I've seen starving black africans and they're just as weak as starving white people

>>61140930
Call me when niggers aren't living in mud huts.

>>61136394
You forgot to mention the different genitalia.

What rules are people using for determining someone is black or white? Blacks in the USA are different usually since many use the one drop rule. Obama for example is considered black even though is a half breed mongrel type.

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>>61140964
>Why do you think blacks have a bigger disposition to obesity than whites under the same caloric intake
So now blacks have even a better metabolism too!

Sooo whitey is inferior in everything except intelligence (but maybe if we account for oppression and systemic racism that might change too)

>>61140930
>k-on
>nigger worship

pottery

>>61140823
Bigger dick doesn't mean superior except maybe for you, who likes to almost choke to death on dicks, apparently. Not judging or anything...

Seriously, tho, how is freezing to death at the north pole superior to not freezing to death at the north pole?

>>61140368
Again. Wealth doesn't strongly correlate with IQ results. What you want instead is compare offsprings of academics, road workers or even better. Compare unwanted children that were not fostered, at age 25+ where heritability of IQ is close to 1. This almost completely eliminates environmental factors. Why this hasn't been done is simple: nobody cares about IQ and everyone who does already suspects what is evident from current research- difference is negligible.

>>61140648
Indeed the "problem", if there even is one, won't be solved by mixing races. I agree with us prefering people similiar to us, we are pack animals. There is the environment of our predecesors encoded in all of us, so if we have two choices that are equally suitable for current environment, we tend to choose those who also have traits that our predecessors desired. Humans as close to race mixing as it gets in nature, even to the point where some individuals (black females) prefer different race (white males). I was trying to say that in choosing partners, environment plays by far the biggest role, but all things equal, we tend to stick to our own.

>>61140983
ahahah ur pathetic defense (makes no sense btw as you contradict yourself in the next paragraph) has just been BTFO here:
>>61141012

>>61140775

>Messi, Suarez, Pele, Ronaldinho
>white

They're not white, not even close.

>>61140930
>same metabolic rate
Feel free to leave anytime. Or read a book, or better yet, any article - yes, even one that may agree with your statement. You can get more insight on the functions of the human body beyond "metabolism".

>>61141027
>Wealth doesn't strongly correlate with IQ results
holy shit it's one of these guys.

>>61140930

>same intelligence
yeh Africa is such a lovely country isn't it

>>61141045
By Pele and Ronaldinho, I meant them as non-white.
Dafuk is wrong with Messi, though? Messi has clear european heritage.
I did mess up with Suarez. Sorry.

did you miss that post where black people evolved to have sickle cell disease, seemingly as a defense against malaria.

Cause thats kind of shitty for them. I realize not all black people have sickle cell but that shit is taking a really long time to cull

I don't get it, to all the people here that implicitly or explicitly admit blacks are inherently superior (which looks to be the majority even though they're too dumb and PC to realize)...

how do you live with yourself?

I'm not a /pol/tard but damn, if I thought that I'd either off myself or marry a nice juicy negress to spare my offsprings the shame

>>61141050
Can you tell the difference between wealth and income?

>>61141082
>Africa
>country
Not helping your case.

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>>61141093

>>61141027
>evident from current research- difference is negligible.
[citation needed]

>>61135365
Everyone in this picture is under 30 and Hitler is in the back right.

>>61141124
this includes no data of value whatsoever. at least the colors are pleasant I guess. what is even the point of this chart?

>287R 80P
Guessing there's one enormous faggot ITT? Probably using an anime "avatar"

>>61141166
Dick size, my friend.
Impressed Hungarians share the same tier as mostly black countries.

>>61141139
lol dude this is 4chan are you actually fucking looking for citations

what a retard. you're wasting your time here if you want credible information

>>61141107

sorry continent

>>61141083

Messi is basically a perfect mix but afaik his parents are immigrants so dunno

>>61140930

Reducing evolution to an autist level mathematical equation.

Wow you've really told me anon.

>All the reddit spacing in this thread
>Both the liberal and the conservative retard's posts are full of it
Leave.

>>61140930
>blacks are better!
>all post-colonial african nations collapsed
>all post-colonial asian nations thrived
Hmmmm

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>>61141124
>tfw half cuban

To contribute to the thread:
Solus isn't bloated
It's a clean and comfy OS with great potential
It is still in it's early days and the dev team is rather small so stop comparing it to big tier distributions
I am very happy with it and i had no issues so far
But if you need big repos and an overall wide community support, it isn't for you

>>61141362
Just admit you're inferior and evolutionally speaking you have no place on this earth boi.

Your bs about survival in the north pole is frankly, laughable.

>>61141124
PUERTORICAN DICK REPRESENT!

>>61141546
>no evidence countering that "bs about survival in the north pole"
Yeah, black people THRIVE in cold weather, don't they? Oh wait...

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>>61141685
Y-yea sure I'm just a evolutionary dead end put to shame by my BASED black fellers b-but I could probably survive a minute more in the North Pole with Paleolithic level of technology a-ah

>>61141193
black countries don't have bigger dicks though, and neither does Hungary

>>61141741
Russia does not exist. At all. Yep.
Keep sucking black dick.
Or you can suck white dick, at least you'd be more in tune with what you should suck.

>>61135204
Women with short hair has to be the worst meme that has ever been created

>>61139897
>doesn't even have boobs.

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>>61141124
really made me think

>>61139897
dude confirmed

>>61137352
also not really how it works, if you have a Y you are a guy, lots of the XXY and XYY don't even know they have the extra chromosome.

>>61141546
>Just admit you're inferior and evolutionally speaking you have no place on this earth boi.
If that was truly the case, whites would have went the way of the dinosaurs millenia ago.

>>61137352
Are you pulling shit out your ass?
YY is impossible.

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>>61141979
All species aren't extinct ... till they are.

Yo ancestors they were shielded from competition from more fit black people till recently.
Try to keep up.

How do you even compete with a homo sapiens subcategory that's just as smart but more dynamic and much stronger?

Eventually you're gonna end up like all other hominids whiteboi

>>61142059
>he doesn't know
Outliers don't make the average, cuck.

>>61136394
even better bait

>>61135996
you wish she was a man :^)

>>61135204
FOSS shill, windows is way more viable in the real world. I myself use linux in my laptop though, you just need to stop the shilling.

>>61136044

Debian -> Devuan
Arch -> Arch OpenRC
Slackware -> Salix

>Alpine
>Void
>Gentoo