/pcbg/ PC Building General

any IPS 1440p with freesync and non dogshit response time (5ms at most)?

Recommendations for 1440p/144hz monitor?

>>61129097
Asus MG278 is pretty good for a TN panel. Cheaper than the IPS equivalents.

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Why have you removed the i7 7700k from the list you weasel?

GAMERNEXUS' official recommendation as the go to gaymen cpu???

>>61129153
Because he's a bandwagon cuck

>>61129153
doesn't want to get sued for the ensuing housefire

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Have a i7-7700 sitting on my shelf I got for $200 due to ebay coupon glitch what do I upgrade? Thinking on black Friday 1080ti (I use 1440p 144hz)

>>61129054
>no i7-7700K
Fuck off with your shill-ass shit

At least you took Vega off of the list

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>>61129153
>p-p-please buy one!!!

No, Pajeet. Accept that Intel are finished and fine employment elsewhere.

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Just spend 8-9 hours trying to get my ryzen build to work here's what i built.
PSU: Thermaltake 630 semi-modular smart se
Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX
RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8gb 3200mhz cas 16
CPU: Ryzen 5 1600
GPU: Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! EXTREME

So at first every time i'd power it on it would light up for 0.5sec and then shutdown instantly.
I realised the problem was with the screws i had on the motherboard i had screws some that
i didn't need to so what happened is that the motherboard was screwed wierdly onto the metal
panel so i suppose that caused some sort of interferance but as soon as i removed those screws
i was able to turn on my system and it would stay on.

Then, however no matter how long i waited there would be nothing output on my screen.
So then i started testing every possible thing trying to troubleshoot my issue, i put the
rams in every combination possible(even tried single ram), i tested my gpu on my old rig
and it worked perferctly, i tested my psu on my old rig and it worked perfectly, i removed
the cpu made sure no dust or anything was on the pins or the socket, i just powered on the
computer with only motherboard, cpu, ram, my old gpu, and the m.2 drive still nothing,
i noticed the red leds that had things like "ram", "cpu" next to them so i tried booting w/o
ram to see if the "ram" led would stay on. Both "ram" and "cpu" leds were on. I put the ram
back in and boot again. The "cpu" led is on for 10 seconds after turning on the pc and then it
goes off.

I'm in despair anons, i have no way to figure out for sure whether it is my cpu or motherboard
or if i can even rma the mobo if it was my mistake for breaking it when i screwed it too hard on
the case, please give me the magic tip that will solve everything, here in greece to save that kind
of money i've been working all year...

Sorry for the repost but i honestly don't know what the fuck to do now

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>>61129210
>Motherboard: MSI

Point and laugh at the retard, children.

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Stupid question

my friends keep claiming that certain high end gaymen PC models do not work on windows 7.

is this shit true?

>>61129227
What's wrong with MSI B350 boards?
The slow boot times are fixed, they also support the cheapest 3200mhz 2x8gb kit at full speed.

I've also seen alot of people that used this specific motherboard with 0 issues.

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>>61129200
>>61129207

You guys are messing with noobie's money.

It's fun and entertaining to play AMD vs Intel memewar etc.

But in the PCB thread we should be objective.

There's no way in hell the i7 7700k doesn't belong on the chart, as much as the 1600 does.
They're both the best deal at their respective user case scenarios and pricepoint, ESPECIALLY IN GAYMEN

>>61129210
>I realised the problem was with the screws i had on the motherboard i had screws some that i didn't need to so what happened is that the motherboard was screwed wierdly onto the metal panel so i suppose that caused some sort of interferance

You shorted it. It's dead. RMA it and say it was just dead out of the box, they can't prove you broke it.

>>61129210
>the otherboard was screwed wierdly
how?
you got any pics?

this seems like a pretty bg issue, if the change in screwing actually resulted in a different boot, it means that it actually affected your motherboard.

try clearing the CMOS and disconnecteverything and build it from the ground up, making sure everything is OK. then tell us what happens.

>>61128698
>>61129071
How does this look?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9by9HN
While I'll do a lot of gaming, I also need this for heavy programming, RTL design, and circuit simulation. None of which are technically demanding like video editing not working at all without good hardware, lower compile and synth times would be nice.

>>61129268
Nice try at the "I'm the reasonable one" angle, Sanjay. Nobody who has the best interests of a "noobie" (you should tell your line manager that Intel need to update their glossary of internet slang by the way, nobody says this), would recommend they buy a quad core CPU in 2017.

>>61129260
why do you even listen to yur retarded friends?
also there is a thread specifically tailored for your questions called
>>>/sqt/
>>61129267
MSI is a hit or miss, and has been OK for the AM4 plataform, AsRock and Gigabyte are doing pretty good.

>volcanic islands were too cool for AMD so they named their new GPU after a star that's significantly hotter than even the sun

Poetry.

>>61129260
No, but Windows 7 will refuse to do updates on a newer CPU, because Microsoft is evil and wants you to use Windows 10 instead.

>>61129326
And also prophecy

Why aren't there bladeless dyson-like PC case fans?
Would sell like hotcakes

>>61129323
>MSI is a hit or miss, and has been OK for the AM4 plataform

MSI's AM4 boards have been garbage. Far more RAM compatibility issues than the other vendors, and the Xpower Titanium is an absolute fucking JOKE compared to the Crosshair VI or Taichi, despite being more expensive than either. It doesn't even have a fucking external clock generator.

>>61129326
>>61129338

just pottery at this point

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24inch 1440p monitor or 27 inch 1440p monitor for ~$80 more?

>>61129330
>No, but Windows 7 will refuse to do updates on a newer CPU
how "new" are we talking about?

what's the latest CPU i can get that works properly on 7?

>>61129386
skylake and bulldozer based stuff

ryzen and kaby lake only on w10

>>61129350
Dyson "bladeless" fans have blades, they're just hidden in the base. Which is why they can't be shrunk down. They're also noisy as fuck and just plain inefficient compared to a normal fan.

>>61129373
do you only pan to have ONE monitor?
if so, get the 27, don't be a fag

>>61129284
But shouldn't that cause it to not turn on at all? The thing is that it just stays on doing nothing...
Also another thing i noticed is that the gpu fans when i turn it on they spin a little but shortly after they stop.

>>61129286
On the case there are some holes that stick out and fit the motherboard perfectly and some holes that are
on the metal plate of the case, i screwed the edge of the motherboard on those too for some dumb reason
because i had some different screws lying around that i thought they were supposed to go there. Which i
think resulted in having the pins on the back of the mobo to connect throu the case plate.
Also i did remove the battery from the motherboard but i'm not sure what else you need to do to clear CMOS
on newer pcs.

>>61129386
Anything starting from Kaby Lake and Bristol Ridge/Ryzen, you won't get updates on W7 by default.

However there are ways to unlock updates if you really want to.

>>61129414
>But shouldn't that cause it to not turn on at all?

No. If you didn't kill the power circuitry, there's no reason why it shouldn't turn on. Whatever you fried is just stopping it from actually working. Pray you didn't fry your RAM or your CPU too.

>>61129412
I have a 24inch 60hz 1080p monitor i'll be using as an aside, but the 1440p will be my main monitor. Just wondering if the 4 inches is worth the premium.

>>61129409
what if... a case where you put those hidden fans in the base... brb going millionaire

>>61129350
what a stupid post.

they have blades. it's a hybrid between a turbine and a fan...
more like a conic fan in a venturi to accelerate the air.

it would work good on CPU colers actually, because of the good static pressure. but would probaly be too big, because of the necessary heatsink
>>61129414
if you removed the battery, but the PSU is still connected there's a chance that the CMOS is still not cleared. you can look at a small diagram online, you need to make contact in two of the lower MoBo pins to clear it. sometimes there's a dedicated button, in higher end MoBos.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813144029&ignorebbr=1
Is this a good motherboard? I'm getting it in a bundle.

>>61129450
things may be too small on the 24 inch one if the monitor is too far

>>61129204
Well, obviously you don't buy that cpu or that motherboard if you have an i7 7700 sitting on your shelf.

>>61129479
That's what I was worried about. 27inch it is. Thanks.

>>61129316
>nobody would recommend they buy a quad core CPU in 2017

>>G4560 - Budget builds (<$500)
>>R5 1400 - if you can't afford better or specifically need 8 threads but not a very powerful CPU
>>R5 1500x - Buy the 1600 instead

Ok then remove these also.

You guys are completely delusional.

>>61129470
I removed the battery when the motherboard was clear ofcourse.
So in that case in which process should i do this?
Remove and put in again the battery while the motherboard is unplugged
then plug it in make sure power is running throu it and use my screwdriver
to conduct electricity throu the pins?

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>>61129477
there have been like 4 different "my MSI mobo isn't working" posts this afternoon

>>61129545
yeah, just short the indicated pins in your motherboards manual.

I'm just concerned about the thing with the screws. I stil ahve no idea how that happened. you sure you didnt scrape the motherboard in any part? that could make a short that could potentially fry your CPU .

>>61129543
Those chips don't cost $350, you fucking retard. It should go without saying that sacrifices must be made when you're on a budget, but not when you're paying top fucking dollar for a "high end" rig and getting a quad core for your money like it's 2006.

You are the only delusional one here, Rajesh.

Guys, Ryzen 5 or Ryzen 7?

>>61129587
He doesn't even need to have scraped anything. If the back of the motherboard was touching the case or a misplaced standoff, that's enough to short it out and fry something.

Any recommendations on antivirus? I don't know what the opinion is on antivirus here and I've seen people say you don't really need it. I should mention I'd like something that's not very taxing. I'm currently using avast free on my old laptop.

Also I'm in Canada and I'd say my budget for this is like $40/yr

>>61129612
exclusively gaming or gaming and encoding/transcoding, virtual machines, streaming, etc?

>>61129612
I would say Ryzen 5 because it is cheaper and it is overkill for what I do.

>>61129642
not him, but what do you do?

>>61129587
Nope, it's probably that it was touching the metallic plate on the case because
it kept turning off instantly when it was touching it and then i unscrewed those
screws on the edge just a little bit and it stopped shutting off but still didn't boot

I was thinking about getting:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8vKMHN

Someone suggested:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/djq9HN

I don't want/need a gaming desktop. Usually indie games are on my agenda (magicite, Everything, Shelter) maybe the occasionally DOTA. I am mostly going to torrent movies and music.

The second option might be too expensive for me? They suggested a Pentium 4560 at least for running any games.

Sugestions?

>>61129608
the i7 7700k is the best gaming cpu on the market.
No ifs, not buts.
So what if it's a 4core idjit?

You're just a delusional fanboi

>>61129637
I only play at this moment, but also sometimes I'm just a frustrated programmer.
I'm just searching for a CPU, I don't care if is Intel or AMD

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>>61129654
I play vidya and browse 4chan.

>>61129668
get the pentium, celeron on 2017 is kys tier

>>61129681
get ryzen 5, either 1500X or 1600... the 1600 will last you more time tho

>>61129717
Is there any difference between i7-7700k and Ryzen 5 1600?

>>61129678
See >>61129207

I'm genuinely sorry that you spent $350 on a quad core CPU and $200 on a motherboard to do with it, anon, but rabidly defending your purchase on 4chan isn't the way to go. Take some time to reflect on how you can avoid such mistakes in the future.

>>61129726
A huge one. 7700k is a lot faster for gaming.

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does ryzen and etc new nvidia amd graphics card works on win 7?

>>61129726
7700k is better for 144Hz gaming, the 1600 don't give such high fps but it's better for multithreaded stuff, and it is a bit more future proof

>>61129726
7700k is slightly faster in single threaded workloads, like many games, however R5 will stutter less.

>>61129749
short answers: no
long answer: you could do some shitty hacks and workarounds for it to work, but it's probably not worth it

>>61129756
Stop with the stutter meme. Literally no fucking proof.
>>61129753
No such thing as future proof.

>>61129753
>>61129737
>>61129756
So technically I should go for i7-7700k because I only play vidyas and lurk 4chan?

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>>61129764
man so that means I have to get on windows 10 then. god damn it, can't work around on LTSB in vm, guess it;s time to buy win 10.

>>61129210
Anyone else have any advice?
Any way i can figure out if the issue is my motherboard or cpu or both?
Any possibility of actually making it work?

>>61129770
>higher minimum fps on most games
>no proof

>>61129776
Yes.

is "build itself it's ez" meme really true

i have a build prepared, but it's like $2000 worth of parts. feels like it makes much more sense to just pay a local computer store to buy the parts + put it together, especially since i've seen places with 2 year free warranties

>>61129776
Not unless you have a 144Hz monitor. That's literally the only use case for a 7700K.

>>61129698
>celeron on 2017 is kys tier

It seems like everyone is saying this, but I haven't seen much of a difference between Celeron 3900 vs Pentium 4560. Is there just a stigma for this CPU?

>>61129793
if you're not a caveman there's basically no danger in building it yourself

>>61129373
The 27 goes in the middle and the 2 24's go on either sides.

>>61129338
Bam

Underrated post

>>61129801
>implying you need a 144hz monitor to take full advantage

i play on my 60 hz TV with nvidia fast sync and i can hit over 120fps in games like battlegrounds, bf1, overwatch etc. with no screen tearing but i get the advantages of lower latency compared to 60 fps with vsync.

>>61129792
>>61129801
Thanks guys.
So... r8 my shit and if possible to make it more cheaper or better by a couple of bucks. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/msq7bj

>tfw just dropped $800 for all the parts of my first build and now have to wait until potentially Monday to put it together
I fucking hate waiting. At least I got free 2-day shipping on everything except my GPU.

>>61129816
This is true delusion. If you're hooked up to a fucking TV, you have latency out the ass to a degree that running at 1000fps wouldn't bring you down to a reasonable level.

>inb4 MUH GAME MODE

Good fucking luck with that, you retard.

>>61129845
Unironically kill yourself.

>>61129845
>gayming headphones
>DDR4 2400
Get rid of the cans and step up to DDR4 300.

>>61129865
Meant for >>61129840

The Celeron poster should also kill himself.

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My old 2 TB HDD is crapping out after like 6 years of service so I'm looking to replace it.

Looking for 4TB this time, I'm using it a lot so stuff like WD Blue rated with 2400 hours per year is not gonna cut it. No NAS or Raid, just a single old fashioned HDD for everything. Already have an SSD for booting my OS.

Is toshiba any good? They seem to have good specs and they're cheaper than WD.

Also has tech advanced far enough to make a modern 5400rpm one as fast as my 6 year old 7200rpm HDD?

Don't listen to the literal AMD shills infesting this thread.

i7 7700k is king of gaming hands down and officially recommended (as pure gaming cpu) by most tech sites and yt channels:
https://youtu.be/Gc2_T-wq8qQ?t=15m35s

Peace.

>>61129876
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ztbr8K
Then should I get some chinese headphones from ebay?

>>61129912
I don't have experience with chink shit so ask/lurk /csg/. Anything decent will BTFO any gayming headphones.

>it's another "i know everything about your experience and i'm going to criticize it without actually experiencing it myself" episode

>>61129912
>g502

get the g403. much better mouse.

>>61129965
t. anon who plays games on a fucking tv and is boasting about the low latencies he gets

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>>61129153
>pajeet gets assblasted that intels new $12000 inferno of a xeon gets btfo by a amd cpu a fraction of the price (and power consumption)

>tfw I finished building my computer a month ago and I want to build another one but no monies

>>61129204
take out a home insurance plan and run it without deliding = profit

>>61129890
make your own thread then faggot

>>61129982
What's the difference?

>>61130037
it's a non k processor tho

>>61130064
still an inferno

>>61130060
the g403 can be found for slightly cheaper, it doesn't have an autistic amount of buttons, fits better in the hand and has probably the best sensor out of any mice right now.

iirc the g502 has a similar sensor but it's slightly worse for whatever reason.

http://www.rocketjumpninja.com/top-40/

>>61130029
I'm hoping I don't get addicted to this. I'm having so much fun planning my first desktop right now.

>>61130013
You do realize consistent higher FPS + no Vsync > consistent lower FPS + Vsync, right? Even on a TV with higher input response there would be a noticeable difference between the two. You sound like you're hating for no reason.

I don't know about Fast Sync but I'd assume it's less of an impact than Vsync.

>>61130110
You must have a very boring life.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K42YZ8

My basic points:
* Currently not doing anything too GPU-intensive, although that's mostly because my current computer sucks. But current/future AAA vidya is an expense I don't want/need to get into again, so I don't need anything ridiculous on that front.
* Compiling code/programs does warrant a decent CPU. And I do want the option of playing some, say, 2011 games at decent-ish rates. (Combined with above: want to possibly play GTA4 well, not so much GTA5).
* I could go either way on the case. I basically just don't want something huge, nor something (much) bigger than what I have now -- more concerned about length and height: current case is about 40cm length, 35cm weight. The lack of space for optical drives is somewhat disheartening, but not a deal breaker.
* $600 is kind of a perfect amount, where $700 would be the hard maximum.
* Don't know about overclocking, or other in-depth stuff. Besides maybe upgrading and cleaning, I don't want to open it up again.

Have I stumbled upon a good build for myself, y/n?

>>61130056
we had normal threads then you fagits started to make duplicates and shill them as the "real" ones meanwhile shitting up the official oneswith dumb trolling to the point nobody even bothers anymore

when does ryzen get igpus

>>61130203
That's a pessimistic view. Building a PC is like gambling with a puzzle tossed in. If you don't think it's enjoyable then why are you posting in this thread?

>>61130268
q4

>>61130244
looks fine. my only gripe would be with the seagate hdd because of their failure rates in the past but i can't say how reliable they are now and they might be fine. just search that up because it could save you from a potential dead hdd in a couple years.

>>61130285
To save people from falling for the AMD meme.

580's available when? 1060's available when?

Using a 1060 6gb with a BenQ 1080p 60hz monitor. Should I use adaptive sync?

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>>61130029
>find family member or friend who wants a new computer
>build it for them at cost
>???
>probably not profit, but hey you get to build another computer

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>>61130427
>having family and friends
>being such a normie
btfo off my board
one day i will stab you on the street

>>61130487
this isn't /r9k/.
Most people here are successful well adjusted 6'2 chads anon

>>61130544
>Most people here are successful well adjusted 6'2 chads anon
Have you seen battlestation threads lately?
More like /g/ being the techy variant of /a/ /v/ /r9k/

I bought a 144 Hz g sync monitor for $280. I don't even play fps games. I feel like I got memed

Should I return it and get something bigger like a Samsung CFG70

>>61130487
dumb frogposter

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>>61130650
dumb namecaller

I've spent around $500 on various types of RAM. I can't get it to boot up. I can't get a chiptone out of the motherboard. I have a monitor that's plugged into my graphics card, which is seated comfortably in my mobo. The fans work. I swear I can hear the harddrives spin. But I can't so much as get BIOS. The latest RAM was explicitly on the qvl list. Help.

>>61130702
nice creepypasta

>>61130702
Same deal here, my case is probably fried mobo you should try rmaing it

>>61130719
>>61130728
thanks. What's rmaing?

Here's some more fun facts I keep forgetting to add;
the case wires are plugged into the mobo. When the PSU is on and plugged in, I can press the big power button on the case and everything starts turning on. Case power light will glow.
I can't press any buttons on the case to turn it off; power doesn't work, reset doesn't work. holding power for thirty seconds doesn't work. I have to toggle the PSU's switch.
Sometimes, if I toggle the PSU switch and then toggle it again within 5-10 seconds, the fans stop spinning down and head back up to full blast.

>>61130836
dead motherboard
RMA it
buy a new one if it's out of warranty

I hope you were joking about the ram and/or this is actually a copypasta

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how do i wire this shit up
pic related its a msi geforce 1080 gaming x
i have two vga outputs in the psu, and both cables
going out of them have 6+2 + 6 connectors
do i use two vga cables or one to fill all of the slots?

>>61130859
I'm planning on refunding most of the RAM, which I can probably do with no more than a ~$60 fine for it all. New mobo should arrive tomorrow. [spoiler]I went "Hey, I haven't done it for ten years 'cause I was a college student then neet then working, but I remember how to make a computer, it should be a piece o' cake"[/spoiler]

Since I'm trying to hopefully learn from this; is it dead mobo because it isn't anything else, or is it dead mobo because of some specific indicator I've mentioned but not parsed?

Just bought a saphhire pulse rx 580 4gb for 235+tax. Did I overpay?

Ive been thinking about upgrading my 8350 lately, and I know a guy that'll sell me his 1600, taichi, and 8gb of 3200mhz ram for 420. Is that a good deal? Should I go for it?

I got the short end of the draw for silicon lottery of my GPU. Is that rounds for RMA? Or do I have to suck it up?

>>61131039
Just send a couple of volts across random pins until it bricks and then say it came shorted.

>>61131179
How do I do that?

>>61131191
Use electricity to get the volts

>>61131191
Get one or two 9V batteries, put them in series if you use two, and then attach wires to the terminals. Take out your GPU and start touching the other ends of the wires to an metallic joint or pin. Eventually you're bound to send 9-18V across an IC it shouldn't and fry the transistors.

>>61131230
They won't discover I tampered with it?

>>61131240
There's no way to tell how it was shorted unless you burn it. They likely won't even try to find what shorted, as there's a million different ways you could short a GPU. There's no way to prove when it was shorted either.

>>61131262
So that is grounds for RMA? Hmm maybe sometime down the line. Destroying an expensive card to get more mhz seems awfully wasteful to me. I was just wondering if poor silicon lottery was grounds for RMA. Thanks anyway

Which PSU would be better for my build:

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Tc3RsY/seasonic-power-supply-ss620gm2

or

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/Y3X2FT/evga-supernova-g3-eu-550w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-220-g3-0550-y3

this is what my build looks like at the moment

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/3YmWsJ

>>61131039
>>61131179
what gpu? say you're getting black screen issues and then request RMA. they should accept it. break off one of the small transistors at the back and they'll never know. i had actual black screen issues with an older gpu and they accepted it for rma but then i found out that all they do is install a new bios and that new bios has its own issues. i ended up breaking off one of the small transistors at the back by accident but that caused the gpu to have no video output at all but everything else was functioning like fans, led's etc. they ended up sending me a gpu which was twice as fast as a replacement so it worked out in my favor in the end

>>61131343
1080ti. I would have to unscrew the backplate to fuck with it. Boost 3.0 only goes up to 1980 mhz while everywhere on the internet people are reporting it going up to 2000-2050mhz. Not sure if I should do something as drastic as breaking my GPU for that extra 20-70 mhz which is about maybe 1 FPS more on average. Just got shit luck I guess.

>>61131320
>thousand quid build
>no gtx 1070
>paying over 250 quid for a 1060
>paying 30 quid for a wifi adapter

c'mon mate you can do better than that.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B01L0TD0V0/?tag=pcp0f-21

http://amzn.eu/3JHoX66

>>61131380
>20-70 mhz
Nigger what the fuck. that's not even 1FPS difference.

>>61131446
Exactly. I got shit on for the lottery and I am asking if that is grounds for an RMA. Some anon gave me advice on how to destroy my card and I thought it was drastic so I said I might consider down the line when my card is old and almost out of warranty but it wasn't something I would do for 20-70mhz.

>>61131380
just go into afterburner and set power and temp targets to the max. it might be power limited or temp limited.

you can always just OC it. most reviewers i've seen can add an extra 300 to the memory and between 120-150 to the core on pascal gpu to achieve stable clocks. just try 120 and 300, if it's stable and your gpu is at least 2ghz then you're good to go and probably won't need any further overclocking.

>>61131476
I already did
+135 on core
+400 on mem
+20% on power limit
I left voltage untouched.
Boost still goes up to only 1980mhz when running RoTR benchmark.

This is going to be my first build. Any suggestions and feedback would be appreciated. I already bought the GPU a couple of months ago, I just need to buy everything else.

>>61131535
Nice build

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>>61131500
what are your temps whilst gaming? might be thermal throttling.

make sure you didn't accidentally fiddle with the settings and do something like pic related

when does ryzen get on board graphics
I plan to buy one then

>>61131553
Doesn't the non-X versions come with stock coolers that are fine?

What do you do that requires so many cores?

>>61131553
>>61131535
Good luck getting anything better than an rx4/550 if you dont want to pay high prices.

>>61131555
Pic related = unlinking power limit and temp limit?

I idle at 48 degrees. Ambient here is 30. Load is around 60-70 degrees.

>>61131600

I sometimes play games, sometimes do programming, watch movies with high audio and video bitrates and a lot of multitasking. I guess it doesn't require that many cores but after this build I won't be upgrading any parts for a good few years. Regarding the cooler, I prefer lower temps.

>>61131631
yeah make sure you didn't accidentally unlink your temp limit and set it to like 80C or something.

also go into geforce control panel and make sure your global power setting isn't "optimal power". set it to "prefer maximum performance" or if you don't want your gpu idling at ~1500 mhz all the time you can set it to "adaptive" and then manually set any game which you notice runs at lower clocks to "prefer maximum performance" in the program settings. that's what i've done.

dumb question: does a ryzen 1600/1600x bottleneck a GTX 1080?

>>61131653
Sounds like you know what you're doing then, though
>500 GB ssd
really? Not even throwing in a terrabyte HDD for luck?

>>61131702
Doubt that is the issue since I have already turned up my maximum power draw. Maybe my card just doesn't like boost 3.0

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May I get a recommendation on an aesthetically pleasing, and as minimal as possible hot swap HD bay?
3.5 to 5.25

>>61131719

I have a terabyte HDD on my current computer. I could install this on the new build but I think of it as a bottleneck. Also, HDDs makes sounds which kind of contradicts the quiet build. That's my rationale for it.

>>61131732
it was an issue for me even though i turned up power draw. in gta 5 my game would stutter like a bitch because of it.

>>61131780
I'll give it a try when I get home tonight.
Thanks for your help. I doubt 70 mhz is something I would break my card over. I don't mind exchanging it for something new but breaking it seems wasteful.

>>61131777
You got it chief.

On a possibly related note; I have a couple computers and data on different ones. eg, muh 4chan reaction images on my laptop, though I"m usually posting from my desktop. Shared drives work fine, except for when the laptop is asleep (and it takes a while to wake up and 'come online' enough that the desktop can brows its HDD). Is there something better than the router for transmitting or sharing data between two distinct machines?

Reminder that both RAM and SSD prices are crazy, and this is an awful time to build.
Wait until Q1-Q2 2018 and there's going to be a massive glut once planar NAND dies. Memory prices will be in freefall.

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>>61129790
m8 I had the same fucking board, returned it twice. Having a new problem with a different board. I'm almost certain this new AM4 chipset is the problem, these boards are getting flimsy, and compatibility issues with brands arise, even though the boards were built for Ryzen. Since it is just beginning, I'm sure some revelation will be explained soon enough. I'm still waiting RMA results and I started my build in April...

>>61131819
>wait a year to save maybe ~$75

how poor can you be?

>>61131818

There's a few alternatives to using shared network devices that pops into my mind, not many, but yeah.

- A common alternative is to use a cloud-based file hosting service (not a popular suggestion here because of botnets and whatnot).
- You could invest in a home server and SCP your files to and fro the server, if you have time and money to invest into it.
- Or you could directly copy and paste the files you want to use in a external HDD or USB flash drive.

These are some of the suggestions I can think of at the moment. Though it might be better to think of ways to somehow speed up the time it takes for your laptop to appear online on the shared network drive.

>>61129210
>>61129790
It's like 99% not your CPU. Like it was said in the previous thread, RMA the goddamn board already.

I want a relatively large quantity of storage. 4TB, minimum.

Should I go with the WD Gold 4TB? It's faster than the Blue 4TB (7200rpm vs 5400rpm) and gold is a more prestigious color than blue. It costs about twice as much.

>>61131799
i just tested that tomb raider benchmark and my 1070 also downclocks to 1987mhz even though it runs at ~2ghz in normal gaming. weird, my temps aren't even hitting the 80's.

>>61129210
>PSU: Thermaltake 630 semi-modular smart se
>Motherboard: MSI B350 TOMAHAWK ATX
>RAM: Corsair Vengeance LPX 2x8gb 3200mhz cas 16
>CPU: Ryzen 5 1600
>GPU: Zotac GTX 1080 AMP! EXTREME
r u me

Sure hope it's the mobo. I was assuming it was just the Ryzen being a shit about 3200 MHz RAM. Going to get a AB350M pro4 tomorrow and get to test it, assuming I don't fuck it up too.

>>61131940
Maybe it is the game then. That gives me hope. I haven't tested it in unigine and 3Dmarks keeps breaking ever since I got myself a gsync monitor even after I turned off the settings.

RoTR is the most intensive game I have installed in my PC atm. Thanks anyway anon.

>>61131923
>>61131818

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shared_resource#Common_file_systems_and_protocols

Forgot to mention this, you might find this useful.

this a good build? No gpu for now as I'll use my current card till my friend gives me his old 1080. https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wd6xvV

Best AiO cooler? I'm totally stuck with this one. I was thinking about getting a heatsink cooler like the Noctua NH-D15 but it's size may interfere with the Ripjaws V RAM I had on my list. The case I want is a Fractal Define S so any heatsinks will be a tight fit and transportation will be difficult unless I remove the cooler and GPU to prevent any damages. Lots of mixed reviews between many of the top AiO water coolers ie heat, noise, fan quality, etc. Last thing on my PC parts list.

>>61131819
Yeah, it fucking sucks but it's fucking July. I'm not waiting the better part of a year. I just bought an entry SSD and limited RAM, and will upgrade when prices drop.

>>61131819
I've waited 4 years already to upgrade, fuck that noise

could someone give me a breakdown of how much this pc would sell for second hand?
>i5 4670
>Asrock B85M
>16gb DDR
>Antec 620W
>GTX 660
>64GB SSD
>2TB HDD

>>61132449
Also, Fractal Define R4 with all fan slots filled

>>61132449
250 best I can do

>>61132465
That's what I thought, I was hoping for around $500-700AUD though

>>61132024
Post the list. If mine is similar enough to yours, i can post mine

I have my PC in my "office" and play games in there most of the time. However, occasionally I like to play on my TV in my living room. Right now I just have a laptop so it's no big deal, but I'll have a desktop soon. Note this is just casual playing. I'm not getting serious on the couch.

Which would you guys prefer:

I could shutdown my desktop, unplug everything, and move it to my living room. Obviously this would be a pain in the ass.

Alternatively, I live in an apartment, and my TV is ~30 ft from my desktop, so I could run an HDMI cable whenever I wanted to play in the living room no problem. However, obviously latency goes through the roof. It's casual play so it's not a huge issue, but I still couldn't tolerate it if it were really bad. I'm also not sure how to handle audio and input. Obviously It'd be wireless, but I doubt your typical wireless kb/m would reach through the walls, and I've always been annoyed with bluetooth stuff.

What would you guys do?

What are the thermal characteristics of tempered glass cases? Does the hardware get hotter in there?

I want to game at 1080p, 60fps, 144hz on the most best settings and video edit 1080p 60fps video as well.

GTX 1060 6G or GTX 1070 8G
i7 7700k, i5 7600k, R5 1600 (oc), or R7 1700.

Just please helpcpick out of these. I am planning to build fairly soon.

>>61132971
Gtx 1070 r5 1600

Just built a budget 1080p gaming machine. I5 2400 8gb ram . 1050ti. 300 cad all in

>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bMwKTH
Still deciding between 1700X and 7700k, I mostly use my PC for games. If the R7 is too much would the R5 1600 last me about 4 years and not bottleneck if I decide to get a Ti in exchange?

Sticking as close as I can to a $1500 USD budget, some parts might change if something like the nearby Microcenter offers something good. Left out storage since I recently bought a SSD and HDD.

>>61129054
Can anyone give me a 400$ build that I can only replace a AM4+ mobo and AMD Ryzen 1600

Huh turns out using 2 different 8 pin cables for your PCI-E power is better than 1 8pin + pigtail. Time to redo my cables it seems.

Is it even worth grabbing a second RX 460 2GB for crossfire or do I just wait for Vega and grab a 580 when it's reasonable? Here in Aus they cost as much as I can get a GTX 1080 for.

Do I just get the 1080?

>>61133024
I'm >>61132971, will this last me a long time? I plan not to upgrade immediately a year after.

So ryzen 5 and 7 has no compatibility with windows 7 at all? What a fucking joke...

What the fuck happened to the graphics card prices in America? All of them have raised almost 100 dollars over their prices from a year ago.

>>61133311
You can still install it. You just need to jump through hoops.

>>61133312
Miners

How long til GTX 1070 prices go down?

>>61133388
GPU manufacturers are preparing to introduce mining specific cards, so that should help.

>>61133415
No one is going to buy mining specific cards. That is retarded. They don't have any resale value and you are hoping that you make back your investment before ASIC hits whatever you are mining.

Thinking of adding a second ssd for storing games and whatever else. Is Crucial or WD Blue a better choice? Was initially thinking PNY but those are only 480. How much price/gb do you gain by upping to a 1tb?

>>61133468

Depends on how it's marketed. Lots of professionals buy graphic cards just for parallel processing.

Looking for a new cpu. Is the 7700k worth buying now or will a new generation i7 be release later this year or is the 7000x series this year's Intel release.

>>61129054
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rayor/saved/H4Vpgs
Is this is sensible build for my 62 year old mom? Her typical tasks would consist of general web usage, ripping CDs via iTunes, watching DVDs and streaming HD video.
I wanted to keep costs low, while having a small footprint. My initial thought was the NUC line, but I wanted something a bit cheap and I remembered my mom still uses optical media a lot. I remembered my schools had lots of small form factor Dell machines that seemed to be pretty decent machines for what they were. Does anybody have experience with buying used computers from this line or similar ones? Is the build quality good enough that buying used is a pretty safe bet?

>>61133882
screen is too expensive. She's not gaming.

>>61132611
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/tm3BRG

>>61133723
So basically Quadro-lite? Except for moronic consumers that won't find use in them outside of mining?

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What to look for for (cheap) speakers for my PC?

I just want two stereo speakers on the side of my monitor, nothing more. I listen mainly to Rap/Trap whatever you wanna call it and sometimes some synthwave or shit like this

>>61133921
>screen is too expensive. She's not gaming.
It's a 1920x1080 60Hz IPS panel. I wouldn't call that a "gaming" monitor.

>>61133921
Are you retarded?

>>61134036
she's not going to tell the difference between 30Hz and 60Hz. She won't know the difference between a TN panel or an IPS panel. She'll set it once and forget about it.

>>61134042
No but you are.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QTy3JV
Going to pull the trigger on this and wait for gpus. Hopefully I can save enough for a 1070 by then.

>>61134063
>he's not going to tell the difference between 30Hz and 60Hz.
Holy shit dude what are you talking about? 60Hz is the absolute lowest refresh rate you can find these days barring a few 4k ones.
>She won't know the difference between a TN panel or an IPS panel.
She will when she's not looking at the screen straight on.

>>61134063
Please stop posting.

>>61134063
You still can buy 30hz monitors?
Are you sure those aren't TVs?

>>61129054
Would love a hand if anyone is willing.
Budget is 2k.
I use Photoshop, Sai, Blender, SFM, and audacity/fl studio pretty regularly.
I also want to be able to run Overwatch, Skyrim (ideally the next elder scrolls too), and Terraria.
I'm building from scratch, so I'll be grabbing a new monitor, keyboard, and mouse too. SSD is a must, and I'm not competent enough to overclock.

Right now, I'm looking to upgrade from an old lenovo workhorse ideapad I've been using for 7 years. It's worked great for this long, but it's age is starting to show. I want something that can run what I've mentioned smoothly on Win 7 or 10, and be serviceable for at least 5 years. I'll probably wait until July 4th to try and catch some 'merica deals. Thanks in advanced.

How overkill is 1700 compared to 1600x for gay men if you don't really care about €50? Is there any reason that 1700 is worse (assuming OC)?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJNzr7

Rate my list.

Don't complain about the price, I literally can afford it in a few months.

I want the sound card and I want the blu-ray player. It's a luxury I want.

I couldn't find a 4K monitor with over a refresh rate over 60Hz.

Other than that, any critiques?

>>61134353
https://youtu.be/0c_mhrB7LlQ?t=40m00s

>>61134359
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJNzr7
ever heard of nvme drives, you retard?
hey retard, why are you getting a bronze-rated psu?
retard!

>>61134370
This is not /mu/.

I can see by the "40m00s" you failed at linking to a certain song parodying those faggots Blink182.

Fuck you.

Just answer the question.

whats the difference between asrock ab350m pro4 and a320m pro4?

>>61134379
>>61134359
oh and enjoy your meme water sprinkling around your case after hearing the pump motor throughout its entire wretched lifetime

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WIP

>>61134393
30

>>61134379
How is this?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JztRtJ


>>61134396
Your water cooling unit won't break if you don't OC your machine and work it to the breaking point, which I don't need to do.

Only idiots who run 1440p on a GTX 1070 need to OC.

Don't be fucking retarded.

I am going to be playing Fallout 4 and Grand Theft Auto V at 4K, and using the internet other times.

I don't need to OC.

So, since the mid-range GPUs are gone from the market, I've got an offer from a trusted source to buy a used 980Ti for approx. the price of a 1060 6GB. Is it worth it for a Ryzen 1600(maybe X) build?

>>61134524
yes , i can still play everything on ultra @1080 with a 980

>>61134359
Will something like this be able to play Minecraft on Ultra settings? Can I replace the case fans with fidget spinners?

>>61134359
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jJNzr7
>3.1K on a 7700k build
>120GB SSD that's not an x4 NVMe drive
>16W of wiggle room over partpicker estimate
>shitty bronze rated PSU in 3.1K build
>investing in an old-hat Blu-Ray drive in 20 fucking 17 instead of an UHD Blu-Ray drive
Crikey mate!

So I think I'm pretty happy with this build.
I'm willing to throw another $100 or so at it. Where do you think I should improve it most?
SSD for main drive?
Another pair of RAM sticks?
GPU?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jncjM8

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>miners

Just bought a GTX 1080. Should be going for a 1440p monitor and 144hz or a 4k 60hz monitor

>>61134359
Severe autism / 10
Buy a prebuilt PC before you hurt yourself, retard.

>>61133066
Anyone ?

>>61134834
>4k
lol

>>61134834
1440p

>>61134834
1440p when gamer, 4k if not gaymer

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>>61134834
>>61134996

4K ANYTIME ANYDAY

>>61135008
Yeah I'm definitely a gaymer. Thanks I appreciate the help.

can anybody explain how amd cpu naming works? in intel i think if the model has k at the end it means it's overclockable, is it the same for amd, but with x?

>>61135063
All AMDs are overclockable.

>>61135063
Yes but the difference is that you can also OC the non-X versions, just you can OC more the X ones

>>61135082
I just read the OP, and it says
>get 1600x if you don't overclock
I'm getting a mixed message

>>61129054
Hey /pcbg/
Should I buy a R7 1700 or a 7700k?
I have a GTX 1070, I use my PC for mostly gaming and am on a 1080p monitor.
I've been hearing about the microbug and heat issues on 7700k so is it worth going with the 1700 despite my PC being used for mostly gaming with such titles as: GTA V, BF1, PUGB ARMA 3 etc?

>>61135063
The X versions are just better binned and theoretically capable of higher overclocks. All of AMD's Ryzen and FX series are overclockable.
And unlike Intel, it isn't just the high end motherboards that allow overclocking. While Intel restricts overclocking to Z-boards, AMD allows overclocking on the B350 (equivalent to Intel B150/B250) and Z370 chipsets (equivalent to Intel Z170/Z270)

>>61135108
Because the 1600X comes out of the box clocked higher than a normal 1600.

>>61135120
Is your monitor 144 Hz or 60 Hz?

>>61135123
>Z370 chipsets
Sorry. X370. I mistyped.

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>>61135108
the 1600x comes with some fancy overclocking shit which automatically overclocks the cpu based on temps or something like that kinda like what nvidia has on the gpu side with their gpu boost tech and also comes with a higher clock compared to the 1600 by default hence why it says if you don't plan on overclocking.

if you do plan on overclocking then the 1600x is terrible value because the 1600 can match the 1600x with ease and also comes with a free cooler in the box, whilst being like $50 cheaper.

>>61135123
aah, that makes sense

>>61135155
>the 1600x comes with some fancy overclocking shit which automatically overclocks the cpu based on temps or something like that kinda like what nvidia has on the gpu side

I am pretty sure the non-x versions have some kind of turbo auto OC too

>>61135132
Only 60hz

>>61135159
I personally don't see a point of paying for the 1600X from a value standpoint. The Ryzen series are NOT good overclockers. They're very efficient and powerful, but they do not overclock well. AMD says for reliability, not to push more than 1.425 Volts at them. Overclocking-wise, the Ryzen chips top out around 4.1 Ghz on the best binned chips. 3.9 is average.
If overclocking is the only thing you care about, get an AMD FX chips. While their IPC is shit, they are currently the best overclockers out there, and still hold the world record, which I believe is around 8 Ghz.

>>61135192
Ryzen 5 1600 then.

>>61135208
>If overclocking is the only thing you care about, get an AMD FX chips.

the fuck am i reading?

>>61135192
Ryzen 5 1500X or 1600 then. At 60Hz, the i7 is terrible value and offers NO advantage over other cheaper chips. Only go i7 7700K if you plan on a 144 Hz build, otherwise it is completely worthless.

>>61135234
Keep reading dipshit.

>>61135214
I have enough money for a 1700, why not go with it for better game performance? is it really that minimal? I was considering the 1600 but I heard that even the i5 7600k does better in games, is this true?

>>61135253
are you retarded? why would you recommend someone a fucking fx cpu for overclocking when it's known that it sucks balls even when overclocked to over 5ghz? if he wants to overclock and get max performance his only choice is intel kaby/skylake right now.

>>61135264
It's not that the 1700 has better gaming performance than the 1600. It does. But with a 60Hz screen, you will never notice it.

>>61135273
I never said it was a good performer. But is currently IS the best overclocker on the market This is fact. The performance is shit but you can brag all you want about Ghz, which is all that matters to some people.
I'd rather have a lower clocked powerful CPU than a highly clocked shit CPU.
Kaby Lake can't overclock as well as FX. This is fact. Untie your panties. I never said anything good about FX performance, only that they are the best overclockers, which is true.

>>61135273
Don't bother arguing with someone who unironically recommends Bulldozer in 2017, but shits all over something like i7 7700k.

>>61135296
The i7 7700k is the perfect CPU for 144 FPS gaming, and nothing else. It's a good overclocker, but it doesn't overclock as well as the FX chips. Get over it.
Show me your world records.

>>61135292
Enjoy a FX that requires 1,5v for that marvelous 5ghz overclock. That's a real housefire, not to mention the ridiculous power consumption and inherent instability.
>giving horrible advice to people who want to spend their hard earned money on a decent PC
Go fucking kill yourself.

>>61135309
The i7 7700k is perfect for games that make good use of a high CPU frequency. Its performance is far better than any overclocked Shitdozer. Get over it, AMD cuck.

>>61135208
>>61135292
>>61135309
absolute fucking retard holy shit

For a gayming rig, is 16gb ram really necessary?

>>61135338
No, but certain games like PUBG tend to choke with 8gb. Depends on what you play in the end.

>>61135327
I never said it wasn't. I admitted Buldozer performance was shit. I just said they hit higher clock speed when overclocking than kaby lake. Do you have a mental deficiency or something?

>>61135315
>That's a real housefire
No, that would be Intel
>Z299 chips
>all hit 100 degrees C with AIO water coolers.

>>61135328
>I can't into context

>>61135338
yes. i was forced to upgrade to 16 from 8gb because my games would stutter like crazy due to paging file conflicts

can someone make an archive out of this literal paid shills posts where he's unironically recommending a fx cpu over a 7700k.

>>61135403
>what is context

>>61135369
High clock speed on a CPU that had inferior performance and high temps to begin with doesn't matter. Do you want me to start spouting bullshit about my 4ghz overclock with LN2 on the Pentium 4? Who fucking cares, retard?

>n-no its intel housefire waah
Skylake and Kaby Lake don't require insane vCore to overclock 300-500mhz. There's no housefire when you stay at stock voltage and bump up the frequency, assuming you're using something better than the stock cooler. Yes, those CPUs have shit thermal compound beneath the IHS, that doesn't mean much for the average user.
>all hit 100 degrees C with AIO water coolers.
Learn to overclock safely, you fucking faggot.

Do you do anything else besides shilling AMD 24/7 ITT? Consider suicide.

>>61135275
>>61135275
Im running win 7 tho? isnt that a problem is ryzen 5 and 7?
and no im not going to upgrade to shitdows 10 incase you were wondering

>>61135419
>proper context can be considered everything that allows me to shill AMD and take a meme dump on Intel
kys

>>61135423
It's a problem with the i7 too. The problem isn't on AMD or Intel's side but Microsoft wanting everyone to use the botnet. It's a Microsoft issue, not AMD or Intel. The Kaby Lake CPUs do it too. All Microsoft does is block updates on those CPUs. There's third party open source downloads that unblock the updates.

>>61135434
An i7 7700k would be a smarter buy for performance. I never said anything against that. Only that the FX CPUs clock higher, so THAT would be the choice to retards who think clock speed is everything.
Holy shit. It's like talking to a Fox "News" host. Everything is taken out of context and exaggerated.

>shall i get this 1080 ti or 1080 for overclocking?
>no get a 1060 because it holds the world gpu overclock record at 3.1ghz

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>>61129054
>Go for the RX580 if you can
What's the purpose of this suggestion? Have you seen how many 580s are currently in stock? As for performance, a custom 1060 is about the same in most games. Both are good choices, so why not present them as such, especially now when Eth mining is affecting the supply significantly?

Oh wait, you're a paid shill. Nevermind.

>>61135464
Do you know what's exaggerated? Your attempts to convince retards that buying and overclocking a Shitdozer is actually something to be considered in current year. Why the fuck did you post this in a PC building thread?
This was your initial statement:
>If overclocking is the only thing you care about, get an AMD FX chips.
... and it's ridiculously shitty advice. Why not talk about a 2500k that overclocks to 4.8ghz very easily on a shitty motherboard, has lower temps than FX/Sky/Kaby/Ryzen and beats an overclocked FX in literally every game and benchmark? Oh, that's because you're a paid shill.

Get the fuck out, nigger.

>>61135495
>Oh, that's because you're a paid shill.
>I do it for free

>>61135063
AMD doesn't place artificial restrictions to fuck you over. X chips are just better binned and don't come with a stock cooler.

>>61135504
>broke neets giving meme advice on a nigerian tree climbing image board

>>61135108
X chips are certified to hit higher clocks, so if you don't want to overclock and want to plug and play, go for an X chip. Non X chips are overclockable, but the clocks you get depend on how well you can get it to overclock.

>>61135120
R7. None of those titles will hugely benefit from the 7700k and you'll get better minimum framerates with the R7. Intel have also been cunts for the last ten years so if you can go either way you should go AMD to send them a message.

>>61135453
>updates on those CPUs
>CPU updates
Anon...

>>61135562
Microsoft introduced an update to those OS's that detects what generation CPU it is, and if it's Kaby Lake or Ryzen, any further updates to the OS are blocked.
Don't take everything so literal you autist.

>>61135264
With the 1700 you're just looking at 8 cores instead of six, which won't yield much noticeable performance increase in vidya. If you're going to do basically anything besides gaming that's intensive or want to future proof against highly threaded games, get the 1700, but don't get it if all you want is better gaming performance now.

>>61135338
Abso-fucking-lutely. Even laptops commonly ship with 16GB, and Android phones with 8GB are cropping up. We live in such a fucked world that your OS and a few browser tabs will eat 4GB of RAM, leaving only 4GB for your games. Think about how yuge games have been getting, and that that data is stored compressed and at some point is uncompressed and loaded into memory, and you'll realize why 16GB is the bare minimum.

>>61135469
>looking at a sick 580 card
>out of stock of course
>look at reviews
>only one
>runs ETH like a champ, good price
Fuck everything.

>>61135562
Are you stupid or dumb?
https://wiki.debian.org/Microcode

>>61129268
I've tried to discuss that with him before but all he can do is spout memes, don't waste your time trying the same thing

>>61135453
Thanks anon, i had no idea about that, would i still be fine if im going ryzen or 7700k, or do i HAVE to upgrade to win10? am I able to get by without Microsoft's bullshit?

>>61135703
>am I able to get by without Microsoft's bullshit?
https://github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19

>>61135712
fuck me, i wish i took the free botnet update

hey /g/ trying to build a gaming + video editing pc, here's what im thinking

>cpu: amd ryzen 5 1600
>gpu: GTX 1070
>mobo: Asrock ab350m pro4

i have several questions and very little knowledge, pls help

>was thinking of buying 2x 8gb ram (ddr4) but a friend has 1x32gb (ddr3). is it worth it to get another MoBo for ddr3 slots just to have more GB of RAM
>ill buy a 550W psu, how do i choose which one to buy?

So when the fuck are we going to be able to buy an actual GPU in this market

when will the gold rush end, every place is fucking sold out

>inb4 1050ti

it aint happening anon

>>61129054
>every single cpu recommendation for normal people is AMD

wonder who made this thread

>>61129207
as we all know, what really matters is the minimums. how about we see those minimums? :)

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Do you think it's damaging for the motherboard to overclock with stock? The fins are really close to the board. I don't mind high temps on CPU.

>>61129630
Not an expert but I've been running free anti-virus for as long as I can remember(10-15yrs+) and have never had any problems other than malware/spyware/adware. You can download cracked versions of malware removers and such. Just don't download shoddy shit and don't watch beastiality and you'll be fine

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Is this cpu water cooler compatible if i buy a ryzen cpu ?

>>61135906
wups forgot link.... https://www.amazon.com/Intel-Motherboard-Liquid-Cooler-BXTS13X/dp/B00CYX45CK

http://www.mmo-champion.com/build-of-the-month/

why dont they suggest any ryzen builds

I'm choosing between the 1080ti gaming X, EVGA SC2 and Strix.Which one is better temperature, noise and component quality wise?

Remember to purchase a G-Sync monitor with your 1060.

>>61130312
Whats wrong with amd?

>>61130904
I might be mixing something old with something new. But I heard there is something wrong with the saphhire gpus

>>61135956
How do you know if your monitor isn't? I have some old BenQs

Is 144 hz gaming overrated

>>61135796
If it doesn't have heatsinks on a VRM yeah it could very well be, otherwise it should be fine.

>>61135921
No.

>>61132017
You probably don't need such an expensive Mobo

>>61136148
i'm leaning more and more towards an intel cpu because of all these extra upgrades i have to do.
Could you reccomend me some nice water or air cooling for a ryzen cpu ?

>>61136063
Unless you play games that need and benefit from it (AFPS, maybe RTS or rhythm games), then yes, it is.

>>61129054
are there any good AM4 motherboards with wifi or what

Trying to build my first PC, so I'm inexperienced when it comes to computer parts.
I figured as a newbie to this stuff I shouldn't try to OC, so a R5-1600X would be the recommended CPU for my mid-high tier gaming PC?
Are there any recommended coolers for the 1600X that aren't expensive but perform well enough?

>>61135742
shamless bump because i need help

>>61136207
Water cooling is a very cost inefficient type of cooling, it cost much more than air but performs marginally better. You'd be better off getting an air cooler between $50 - $70. Air coolers also have 0 chance of failure as it's literally just metal with a fan strapped on it that you can replace any time of the day, whereas if a watercooling pump fail or if there's a leak enjoy your RMA(s). I won't recommend you to go watercooling because it's rarely a good choice in my opinion.

>>61136298
>a R5-1600X would be the recommended CPU for my mid-high tier gaming PC?
R5 1600 would be as it also is overclocked, it just overclocks slightly lower but we're talking about ~3.8GHz on 6 cores vs 4 GHz, there's not much of a difference and very few people need the extra MHz.

>coolers that aren't expensive but perform well enough?
212 Evo and Cryorig H7 are usually recommended if you don't want to spend a big amount of money.

>>61136358
Yeah i see your point, but i was hoping for some ryzen compatible specific reccomendations since my current water cooling system isnt compatible aparently. (the one linked above) ^

hey /g/ trying to build a gaming + video editing pc, here's what im thinking

>cpu: amd ryzen 5 1600
>gpu: GTX 1070
>mobo: Asrock ab350m pro4

i have several questions and very little knowledge, pls help

>was thinking of buying 2x 8gb ram (ddr4) but a friend has 1x32gb (ddr3). is it worth it to get another MoBo for ddr3 slots just to have more GB of RAM
>ill buy a 550W psu, how do i choose which one to buy?
>also, does it matter if i buy a Gigabyte GTX 1070 or MSI GTX 1070 or something else GTX 1070?

>>61136551
Please don't use the quote arrow to ask questions, it's pretty confusing

>a friend has 1x32gb (ddr3). is it worth it to get another MoBo for ddr3 slots just to have more GB of RAM
Ryzen doesn't support DDR3 nor any AM4 motherboards so don't count on it. 32GB is also quite a lot, though video editing & encoding (through premiere, vegas and other softwares) does benefit from more RAM so it doesn't really hurt but it's not really needed either
Gigabyte 1070 really run quite hotter than MSI 1070 and are just as powerful. The differences between all of them is really small in term of performance, cooling and price is where the difference lies but going for the cheapest as long as it's not a blower-style cooler (or an exceptionally bad model) is generally the way to go

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>pic related
Already have graphics card, which is why it isn't listed. Also, fuck cryptocurrency mining.
Would ideally like to get 16GB so I won't need to upgrade that aspect of it. I know Ryzen benefits from higher clocked RAM, so will try to overclock it.
From multiple websites, I'm seeing the 1500X having better price:performance, but a lot of them are using prices directly from the United States of Burger, so it's less relevant due to actual store prices.

Is the stock cooler for the R5 1600 still good enough if you OC?

bought a am4 mobo for ryzen and memory that's not in the qvl list, how fucked am i?

>>61136724
slightly, like 3.7GHz

What is a nice mobo and PSU if i want to build a computer for my father? He doesnt play video games or do any component heavy things on the computer at all. But i would still want to build him something that is of high quality that will last for a while. I already got a working 780 TI card, a Intel Core i7-4790K cpu, 16 gb of RAM that is DDR3 and a water cooler for the cpu.

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Is there a cube case out there that allows positioning such as this?

(green is gpu, black is mobo)

>>61136931
I hope not.

>>61136844
What's your budget?

>>61137014
>>61137014
New thread

>>61136718
Who're you buying off man? Fellow Aussie here (fuck Aussie prices and fuck crypto currency cunts)

>>61137026
That's from PCCaseGear. Got a decent place nearby, so gotta check their stock so I don't have to deal with shipping.

>>61137037
Yea I've umart like a 5min drive away so they're my usual go to. They've got corsair 2x8DDR4 3000mhz for $189 if you wanted to boost from the 2400

>>61137056
Fuck RAM prices right now. It's the main thing stopping me from going for Ryzen/Skylake+ as it is.

>>61136724
>>61136797

I got to 4GHz at 1.4V

That said, my room is cold as fuck.

>>61137082
yeah now run it at full load champ

>>61137011
100-150 $ or something like that.

>>61137078
Jesus Christ tell me about it. I mean technically I don't need to upgrade;
i5 4670, B85M asrock, 16DDR3, msi 1060 antec 620w...all in all I've got a solid Rig but...man I love building computers.

>>61129386
It's Kaby Lake and Ryzen, but there are workarounds so there is no problem really

>>61137106
Athlon X4 880K, MSI A78 mobo, 8GB RAM, MSI 750 ti, and EVGA 500B
I might go trekking around to see what other computer places are within reasonable distance.

My laptop just died and I have no other computer, I have a programming project starting in two weeks. I've never built a pc before, what is the best and cheapest part supplier in Australia.

Also I have an old pc with some parts I could recycle, for a up to date/quality computer would it be dumb to use a 8 or so year old corsair hx650 for power.

>>61135796
>overclocking on Intel stock cooler
Enjoy your core damage and molten hardware.

>>61137151
Ouch. Yea that'd definitely start to lag behind. Good idea man, or look for places that do free shipping over X.
>>61137153
So are you looking to build a new PC, or after another laptop? What's your budget and what sort of thing do you need your PC to do?

>>61137184
PC
Budget of around $1500, I CAN spend more, but would rather not. I'm probably going to spend most of my time just doing things on the internet, but I do game once in a while. I'll need it for programming and other business stuff sometimes which won't be too intensive

>>61134108
You deserve it

>>61137302
Gotcha. Well how heavy do you game? Do you want something that has to play the latest or are you chill with older games/medium graphics? Building something for you now

>>61134787
Get a better psu, EVGA G2 or G3. A better gpu is gonna be overpriced unless you're prepared to wait.

>>61137302
>>61137407
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/QFxCQV
I figure you're not gonna be filling that SSD anytime soon, but throw in a HDD if you need it later. Depending on your GPU needs you can pick up one cheap off of eBay second hand. Otherwise you have 500ish to work with for a GPU. Either wait (best option as you're not a big gamer) or grab a temp card like a 760 or something (I mean hell my 660 was running strong on most games today at medium-low)

>>61137407
Thanks man. I would like to play modern games but am fine with medium graphics.
I used to spend every day all day gaming, now I only do it about once a week on the weekend, but when I do it's usually 6-10 hours

>>61137508
Yea, well case is adjustable to what you'd prefer. Pick up a 760/660/670 off eBay and you should be solid for now. >>61137483

>>61137570
Thanks for all that, gonna probably gonna start purchasing in an hour

>>61135956
I didn't, am I fucked? Would adaptive sync help?

What's the sollution for huge graphic cards?

>>61134418
still shit because you should go with an nvme ssd, not sata bullshit
get a 256gb evo or plextor with a radiator for your system drive
>rosewill
kek. get a superflower, evga built by superflower, corsair. look up jonnyguru reviews

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What CPU is better for emulating games, 1800x or i7 7700k?