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So seven years ago when captcha was implemented on 4chan to help with spam, there were about 8.2 million users monthly.
I think at this time /b/ was the most populated board, based on my experience.
There was hardly any relation between 4chan and mainstream society, it was still a unknown website but was quickly becoming more popular. People didn't really talk about 4chan outside of 4chan, social figures didn't identify as 4chan users, and any external attention was caused by the massive shenanigans or illegal content /b/ was known for at the time.

Today, there are 22 million monthly users, the most popular boards subjects involve things that generally revolve around profit (/v/,/tv/,/biz/), or politics, both cornerstones of the outside world.
4chan is also no longer taboo, cleaning up the spam, cp and the large increase in moderation has made this site much more palatable to people.

However, with this large increase of users and shift of population to boards mainly about consuming(/v/,/tv/) or controlling (/pol/,/biz/), there has been a quite obvious increase in shilling.

The who of shilling does not matter, only that they do.

What matters is eventually when captcha is broken because of this shift towards AI, and when someone makes a bot which shills whatever they want, you will not be able to tell the difference between the bot or a real poster. You wont be able to tell because nearly every post on this website is succinct, loaded with repeated memes, or lacks any substance at all.

So what do? Whats to stop a fat lard from running 100 collocated raspberry pi bots simply to pony post on every fourm because some Anon hurt his feelings. Or some shill trying to promote his new cryptocurrency. Or video game, or political ideology, they do it already, what's to stop them from using a bot to make it look like they have lots of support, or just to drown out the competition.

What do you think?
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>This autism
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>What do you think?
stop taking the internet seriously
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>>61119922
>what's to stop them from using a bot to make it look like they have lots of support, or just to drown out the competition.
amd is already doing this
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If I get matching numbers OP is a faggot
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>>61119999
FUCKING CHECKED
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>>61119999
>amd is already doing this
Fucking check friend.
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>>61119922
>What matters is eventually when captcha is broken because of this shift towards AI
then they'll make a new captcha, retard
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>>61119922
The captcha will never be broken-- here's why:

It's run by Google. They use captcha exclusively to gain labeled data that they need to make their products better. Ever wonder why you're always manually labeling Google maps shit, and not typing in sentences anymore? They pretty much solved handwriting recognition and have moved into something that hasn't yet been solved. When they get enough data that their maps platform (and self driving cars) can recognize businesses, street signs, cars etc etc well enough, they'll implement a new captcha.

Nobody is ahead of Google in this regard. The chances of a Google captcha being solved and then being used to shitpost on 4chan are nil, there are more valuable real world uses than that.

Also just FYI you're all implicitly doing mechanical turk level work for Google for free.
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>>61119999
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>>61119922
4chan is actually only one guy, at all times. ai broke captcha years ago bro, when /b began to flood with porn and traps and now thats all thats left there. is porn and traps. and the occasional stripping bannana. because apparantly, it never gets old.
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>>61119990
>my hobby is being eroded by normie scum and people playing power games
>just ignore it lol
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>>61119999
Quads for Lord of bots
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>>61119922
>Claims to remember earlier days
>Uses Redditch spacing

Literally drop dead then run back from whence thy came, n00b
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>>61120366
>waaaah muh seekrit club :<
that only would've been a valid arguement 10 years ago.
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>>61120520
>the community you're a part of has been going to shit for years
>there are obvious trends that are actively degrading the quality of the community
>it's somehow seen as wrong to point out those trends and complain about the steady decline of quality
Go back to rebbit you stupid nigger. You're obviously too retarded to be a part of any community that isn't identical to your gay circle jerk subrebbits.
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>>61120520
I can't even tell at this point if you're baiting me or if you're serious, just kill yourself anyways just to be on the safe side.
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>>61119922
>What matters is eventually when captcha is broken because of this shift towards AI

this cannot happen. as soon as an AI technique is able to break a captcha technology, google will just add adversarial examples to that AI technique and break it.
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>>61120770
better idea: make good threads and ignore shit ones.
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>>61120879
Neo-4chan couldn't ignore obvious bait if their lives depended on it
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>>61120242
how does that work. at some point because of this push for automated cars we will have systems that can identify things as easy as humans do
it's literally what google is doing with captcha right now
>>61120292
>>61120836
but how?

i guess i did my own research and find that google is trying to replace captcha with something completely different

https://www.google.com/recaptcha/intro/comingsoon/invisible.html
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>>61120933
Yeah, the rebbitors don't know how to handle bait or shills. Obvious bullshit gets to bump limit and threads that require an iota of consideration get ignored. The explosion of users has drastically reduced the quality of posts from actual discussions to fucking porn website comment sections

People respond to the OP without ever reading a thread or actually trying to contribute a meaningful idea to the thread. It's garbage and that garbage is strangling content generation or creative communication
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>>61119922
>what do you think?
As a user since 2004, i did pic related.
All i do is arguing (95% of the time with my real thoughts, 5% trolling) and occasional shitposting (increases as each year passing the loss of "4chan culture" can be felt)

>normie
thinks like that reddit term make me sick and realize how much newfaggotry is going on.
learn it faggots, it's normalfag, cause everyone on 4chan is a fag (not necessary homosexual).
However, as they get outed as redditfags, they're an easy target.
Essentially, it hurts, but you have to make the best out of misery.
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>>61120980
>but how?

I just told you: adversarial examples. If you don't know how to google it or can't understand it i'm sorry but you might be retarded
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>>61121062
you are absolutely right, i dont understand why that is impossible to fix.
infact there's a paper on google explaining how adversarial examples pose security risks to machine learning systems, so clearly it's something they want to work on

i missed it because i thought you meant it literally, i had no idea it was a term. maybe if you want people to understand you be verbose instead of condescending
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>>61119922
Stopped reading when you said biz was one of the most popular boards
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>you need to be logged with facebook before commenting on 4chan
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>microtransactions to post on 4chan
>Oh, no! You have exhausted your Shitpost Shekels! Buy more for 2$
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>>61121175
i got that from neet.tv i dont really know but it has more new threads per day than most of the other boards.
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>>61119990
This isn't just about the internet but about /g/
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>>61121146
This is cool. Is this the way we stop the terminator
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>>61119922
>ywn experience the golden age of 4chan
Who else here /late/

I only started coming here in 2015 when I was in uni
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>>61122622
>mfw this guy came ten years later than me
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captcha is already broken. if someone wants to make a bot just to bee hated, then they can. they will probably just increase the security
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We just keep typing nigger in captcha for botnet's sake.
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>>61119999
quads means it's true
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>>61119922
Make a FOSS bot to call them a faggot
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>>61119922
4chan poisoned the minds of the youth and now theyre a cancer that killed the old magic of their boards with their constant faggotry about what trends to follow
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>>61120879
good threads die while shill threads, /v/ children and complete retards rise to the top
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>>61120980
According to the little video, it looks like captcha is moving to grab your name and email. That's fucked. I can see how most sites you log into anyways wouldn't care and why most people who use those sites won't care about it either. For a place like 4chan, that's gonna be a shitshow.
Besides, it's not like someone couldn't just load up a thousand throwaway email/name combos to run a bot.
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>>61119922
>controlling (/pol/,/biz/)
lel
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>>61119922
Easy...bring CP back to /b/ , lean back and watch the shills run for cover!
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>>61122622
I've been coming here since 2010 and it was never good. I started visiting /b/ when they were still spamming "newfags can't triforce", and anyone who is nostalgic for those days is a retard.
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>>61119922
Make a 4chan gold account mandatory
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I always get god damn street signs and car captchas now, I want more variety.
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>>61122622
Came here when the Scientology protest exploded.. it was fun until it lasted...

>>61121016
>normie
>thinks like that reddit term make me sick and realize how much newfaggotry is going on.
robot here, normie was just an exclusive buzzword in r9k until that Elliot Rodgers incident started, "normies" flocked the board and had overtaken all the robots
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>>61128343
Use the legacy captcha
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>>61128378
Yeah but why is it only these? Is this because of self driving car testing?
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>>61128400
Yes and their AI learning freely from us, i.e: Deep Dream
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>>61128400
You are literally working for free for one of the biggest companies on the planet. They could afford to pay you, but instead you freely surrender your time and energy to help prevent up-and-coming rival companies from threatening Google's stranglehold on the Internet. I hope you're happy.
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