let's talk about fans, is there a better deal than pic related??
How much?
>>61116652
Better deal of what?
Best fans are still Nidec Servo's Gentle Typhoons
>>61116662
usually between 25 to 30 bucks for 5 fans.
>>61116698
>$20 for a fan
>need to order at least 100 pieces.
>>61116698
This in 2150 rpm + a good pwm fan controller
>>61116706
Eh, I get mine for free. Huge boxes of computer junk always have a few.
>>61116652
Nah, those are pretty good. PWM works well.
>>61116652
Just bought these about a week ago. $22.50 shipped on Amazon with prime.
I won't claim these are the best fans out there, but for the money you won't find anything better. Have them running at 900rpm and I can't even tell they're on. CPU fan it louder than all 5 combined.
I've used both F12 and F14 in my case. They're inadequate in tight spaces (probably low static pressure since they don't tell it) but great and pretty quiet otherwise.
Are ML-120s a meme?
>>61117398
>Corsair
Overpriced shit for gayman kiddies
>>61117398
Here's a honest opinion in contrast to >>61117447
I use a twin pack on a 240 mm radiator. They're noisy as FUCK at high RPM, but powerful. The wide RPM scale makes them pretty silent when less needed though. Because of that I'd use them against radiators and heat sinks, but not as standard case fans. There are way cheaper options for less demanding tasks.
>>61116652
They are literal shit. The motors make so much fucking noise no matter what RPM you run them at.
>>61116706
1/5th the price of a 140L fan with 20 year continuous operation guaranteed
>>61116652
I'm going to stick with Noctua purely because their customer service is amazing. I had to contact them yesterday and without any hesitation they are sending me a new cable.
>>61117398
Bottom line: yes.
They're basically mediocre, overpriced fans with an unclear distinction if it wants to be a static or airflow fan.
>>61118078
Because that's included in the ridiculous noctua pricetag. I can buy like 5 Arctic PWM fans for 1 poo fan. F12PWM are also reliable and have lasted me over 30k hours so far.
>>61116652
> PWM
Non-PWM are silent enough. Maybe chinkshit is a better deal, but those are at least predictable: start to rattle after a year of 24/7 work. So yeah, I have them.
>>61118154
Have 3 working for almost 3 years.
Pwm pst is not even that expensive compared to the normal version and it's always nice to have pwm imo.
>>61117936
T. Noctua representative
I have some non-pwm f12s on my testbench because they are quieter than my nf-f12s at 1500rpm. At low speed they are noisy af, I have one in my main rig at 500rpm, loudest part in the system.
I also bought ml120s just to try them out and they are louder than my sp120s per rpm while performing worse. Corsair are selling a cheaper fan for the same money because they thought nobody would notice. The sad part is that pretty much no one did
I have some non-pwm f12s on my testbench because they are quieter than my nf-f12s at 1500rpm. At low speed they are noisy af, I have one in my main rig at 500rpm, loudest part in the system.
I also bought ml120s just to try them out and they are louder than my sp120s per rpm while performing worse. Corsair are selling a cheaper fan for the same money because they thought nobody would notice. The sad part is that pretty much no one did
>>61116652
Nah, they're too noisy, I know they're good for their price but I'd rather just buy something more expensive that isn't going to rape my ears/give me PTSD in the long term. If you NEED five fans though, sure it's a steal.
F12 are the only temperature controlled fans around here. They are quiet at idle speeds.
>>61116652
these ones are pretty quiet and not that expensive
Best fan coming through.
>>61118513
>$15 for one fan
Five of those would cost more than my entire case.
What should I replace my stock fans with? There are quite loud.
>>61117131
This.
F12's are the best for the price but you get what you pay for. They are not bad fans by any means but there are better alternatives for which you will pay more.
Why won't nidec sell the gentle typhoons directly to consumers, why, fucking why. What's stopping them? Do they hate money or what?
>>61119539
Because they don't want to deal with the customer support headache that comes with selling directly to normies and autists. They pass that on to the OEMs.
>>61119539
Wait till Q3 for Noctua's clone
>>61119539
Because the rights are still partly in scythe's hand.
After murica it was just a matter of time till the rest of the world also starts the patent fuckery.
>>61116652
I have two of those in my current build. I have had no complaints so far.
>>61119539
https://www.amazon.com/Nidec-Gentle-Typhoon-D1225C12B5AP-Silent/dp/B001Q6RUVO
>>61116652
These things will struggle to operate effectively in places with with obstructed air flow, such as behind a case front panel/door. Beware.
>>61117131
Are you joking? I only have two of them and they're very easy to hear at 900 rpm.
>>61116698
my nigger
>>61119049
Try to lubricate them first, if that doesn`t do anything, get some new ones.
>>61117398
I'm a fan of them
>>61118291
11 and the AP-14 @1400 rpm = same noise as Noctua @900 rpm
>>61121190
huehuehue
>>61116652
Just installed 2 more of these Monday. I have 5 in my R4.
>>61122819
>Be meme
>>61123779
What's that? I can't hear you over your loud fucking fans.
>>61123848
you certainly did faggot
>>61122819
The led ones are better
>>61124639
They make your pc faster
>>61116652
about to order a pack of these, they-d better be good op, or I'll rape you
Best fans coming through
>>61116652
>>61129967
nope
>>61129938
Are these really better than the Noctua fans? Thinking of replacing the DH15 with a smaller one and I'm hearing good things about the BeQuiet fans
>>61116714
You can still buy them on Taobao
anyone know of any 120mm-140mm fans that are quiet at low and max speeds? My be quiet SW2 are loud when i need them to push more air.
I have some questions about fans. I am currently using stock fans at the back and top of my case, and I have the fans for my x61 pushing air through the rad into the pc at the front of my CA-S340W-W2 . Is there a good brand I should use to upgrade the case fans? Is it a bad idea to knock it down to one case fan and add another water cooler for my 1080 ti? Am I retarded for pushing the rads air into the pc lol?
>>61117398
From what I've gathered, they're pretty good as long as they're plugged into a PWM header and not a 3 pin, otherwise the levitation won't completely work.
>>61117398
I have a couple of the 140's I'm using as case fans. As long as the RPM are low they are really quiet and push a decent amount of air. But get them going fast as they are loud as fuck. I might get another two pack to use against a rad but that would be it.
>>61131281
Dsp-tier retarded. You are preheating the air with however many watts of heat your rad is dispersing, even before it gets to your VRMs and other components that want cool, fresh air.
>>61131519
Got any proof that it even fucking matters? Your other components are still going to be hotter than the air that's coming in. As long as there's some airflow, then it will still cool down your PC regardless.
>>61120610
>23 bucks
>while noctuas are currenlty at 20
>gts come really barebones
>noctuas are always full of goodies.
mmm...
>>61130952
too bad I'm a not a chink...
>>61131624
My proof is thermodynamics dawg, instead of a theoretical 200 watts of heat getting dumped outside the case, you are keeping it inside the case ecosystem. I'm not claiming your gonna burn anything out, nor may it be particularly noticeable, but from an optimization standpoint you would be doing yourself a disservice having a radiator as the intake.
>>61131624
after a while you'll have hotspots on your case and overall temperature will increase because you arent exhausting as much air as possible.
>>61131662
https://youtu.be/xNAMxZgvves?t=602
>>61131731
>bitspic
>>61131789
Not an argument.
>>61131815
>Not an argument.
you are right, it's actually a fact.
>>61131731
>>61131662
>>61131519
Thanks for all the differing points. This stuff all considered I guess I should just look into upgrading the internal fans? I honestly only have space for two fans in this case now, and I was kinda thinking about replacing one with an x41 for my GPU.
>>61131913
Why am I not surprised you just simply can't agree that you're wrong about such a dumb topic as the placement of a radiator that you have to just brush away actual proof that is presented to you with namecalling and just resort to m-m-muh thermodynamics!
It's a fact you won't listen and you obviously don't know jack about thermodynamics.
>>61131929
Your layout is the correct way. Why are you considering changing it? Are your temps even bad?
>>61131944
nice opinion!
>>61129967
designed by poo in the loos
>>61131957
You still haven't provided proof that exhaust radiator is better than intake.
>>61131662
>bu-but muh car has the rad in the front!
>>61131789
He's wrong because he's mexican?
>>61131955
Well my cpu currently hits 80-85c in player unknown from time to time. The GPU obviously runs pretty warm but it avoids 80c so I guess it is ok.
you'll find people with noctua fans don't feel the need to shit on those without
>>61132043
Maybe you just need to reapply your thermal paste. Unless you have an overclock on your CPU...
>>61132188
I didn't OC but I may order some paste and just re apply some for the heck of it.
What are the best options for 140mm radiator fans that aren't Noctua, and how do they stack up to Noctua options?
>>61118091
I just want something quiet and I would assume having the fan levitate eliminates a huge amount of the noise when running at low speed/idle processor cooling
>>61117398
Appear to be a good deal with $30 for a twin pack to upgrade 240mm coolers
>>61132185
You already have shit in your case, it's POO IN YOUR CASE!
>>61117398
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4-HO3IGWVLY
>>61116652
No Fan CR-95C (if your CPU's TDP is 95W or less)
t. 65 C in stress test, ~60C real world full load with FX-6300 (in a completely fanless PC)
>>61133286
>Fx 6300
I'm sorry
So what are some good fans for airflow?
Static pressure is good for radiators and heatsinks, or maybe on the front if you have a lot of hard drives.
But for moving air and exhausting it ?
This is the only good fan.
>>61134862
Which is?
>>61134902
type 8850 N
>>61134862
>230V
Are you going to tear your PSU apart to get to the mains wires in order to power your fan or are you going to plug it in separately from the rest of the PC?
>>61134917
my PSU already has a connector for it
>>61134862
http://www.mouser.com/ds/2/471/San_Ace_140LB51_E-1092740.pdf
109L1412M101 38mm thick 117 CFM (126 if equalized )
9LB1412M501 51mm thick 138 CFM 2050 RPM
>>61134862
THICC
>>61116652
Those Arctic fans are fine. They're quiet until the bearing craps out and by then you can just buy new ones because they dirt cheap.
Personally I only use ball bearing fans though. >>61116698 is very easily recommendable, but my personal fav is pic related.
>>61119965
they pass it on to retailers not oems you fucktard
>>61134862
Why don't you just cut the middle man and put a gas turbine in your case.
>>61132185
why is your airflow backwards?
>>61135887
Fan hubs look similar to the GTs
So are the OP fans shit or not?
I need some white/black fans like that, my cryorig cooler came with a white and black fan and it looks perfect with my white/silver and black build.
I need to replace some of my fans anyway since I reused some that I had bought for a build in like 2007(never used, but one of them literally fell apart when I was taking it out of packaging).
What are some good fans with this color scheme?
>>61136275
negative pressure, gives me lower temps and gets rid of a hot pocket under the gpu. also throws more heat out the front for winter hearing
>>61131929
>gamur everything
torch this shit
>>61136695
They're not shit. But they're cheap sleeve bearing fans
Don't expect to have to replace them within the warranty
When they finally do crap out you'll hear it, because the bearing will be out of lubricant and they'll be noisy
>>61136695
I wouldn't use for for a heatsink or radiator.
For a case they are pretty good imo.
>>61137826
I thought they were rifle bearing.
>>61134068
Why? It was cheap as fuck and I don't need anything more.
>>61139523
they are fluid dynamic bearing or something like that, which is like a better sleeve bearing, still, I've had mine for 3 years and no problems.