Which is the better designed language, Swift or Kotlin?

>>61112931
They are literally the same language on different platforms.

The biggest difference imho is how they run. Kotlin runs on the JVM and has access to top notch GC technology. Swift runs natively but uses refcounts.

>>61112969
http://nilhcem.com/swift-is-like-kotlin/

Which is more likely to get you a job?

>>61113020
Kotlin, but swift one job better pay

Is it actually viable to start developing for Android using Kotlin now or have libraries yet to catch up?

>>61112969
>GC technology
>"top notch"

Refcounts are the fast/efficient way to do it but we have to save Pajeet from circular references which are beyond his understanding.

>>61114766
Doesn't xcode warn about possible cyclic refs. Should be trivial to solve at compile time with a typed language.

>>61114736
99.9% of the Android libraries you'll use are written in Java but calling Java libraries from Kotlin is pretty seamless. Kotlin can't guarantee Java types are non-nullable though so you'll end up using nullable types more than you'd probably like.

>>61114766
Some algorithms I've used ended out best with circular references and a GC that doesn't give a fuck.

C# is a beautiful language.

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>>61114766
Modern GCs are infarct, ref-counted behind the scenes. Circular dependency solving is a last resort in the garbage collection phase.
If I'm correct, String types are for instance ref-counted.

That being said, ref-counting is still cleaner IMO.

>>61112931
Both are garbage

>>61114984
>C# is a beautiful language.
Hello, vishnu

>needing a garbage collector for anything outside of functional programming

>>61112931
>Try to fix java
>Make it uglier