What's the most cyberpunk city in the world?

>>61100084
Maybe somewhere like Shenzhen, Tokyo or Seoul.

>>61100084
>>61100096
It's Shenzhen. The mixture of super high tech and literally third world fishing peasants is not found anywhere else

>>61100185
This

>>61100084
>yellow fever thread
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>>61100096
>>61100185
/thread
I've gone to Shenzhen 10 times in the past 2 years and returning soon for 2 months

It is seriously mind blowing to know a city like it exist in China of all places

>>61100229
what do you mean? china is a manufacturing country and still has millions living in poverty. it would only be logical for at least one city to exist like that.
might be missing something never have gone though.

I don't think any city's going to be as cyberpunk as Kowloon Walled City was

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Some asian city for sure

This photo is pretty dank of tokyo

Aside from the one's mentioned already like Shenzhen, Tokyo, and Seoul I'd also nominate Detroit and Bangkok.

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>>61100865
detroit is low life but not at all high tech
Shits infested

Bank cock is pretty bangin

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Not many white citys that are cyberpunk like
Moscow maybe

>>61100865
Detroit is niggerpunk, not cyberpunk

India, they have nuclear power plants but people still poo on the streets

>>61100872
>>61100905
>t. never been

Hipsters are buying up all that cheap land and building infrastructure for startups, shit's going to get gentrified into Silicon Valley 2: Electric Boogaloo

>>61100892
who asked anything about white cyberpunk cities?
better not be trying to subvert cyberpunk friend.

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>>61100950
Someone said they are only asian
Sure the best might be but not all

Vegas is pretty degenerate and tech as fuck these days
Since they built the city center shit its hype

>>61100966
Looks just like every other modern city

>>61100966
well alright, if we want some white tech cities, see maybe seattle? pnw is very white and amazon and microsoft dual-own that city.
but cyberpunk cities have a little more to them. something only a lot of people packed into them can achieve, which ends up mostly likely being in asia. we still have suburbs in most cities here.

>>61100926
This. I've been to detroit several times and believe me that shit's going to get high tech, low life real fast. you guys probably just dismissed it immediately just because "muh colored people can't possibly be in my imaginary cyberpunk fantasyland"

>>61100892
>>61100852
Asian cities are really kind of low hanging fruit for cyberpunk. It ticks off many check boxes for aesthetics, but really cyberpunk originally featured predominately Asian things in the west. It was done as an exercise in extrapolating Asian population growth at the time and expected future immigration. Cyperpunk speculators just kind of assumed Asians would be the majority ethnic group and generally be everywhere in the future

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>>61100981
Yea but you have mexican kids handing out fliers for hookers on everycorner and chicks walking about asking to suck your dick no joke.
I saw a guy slamin heroin right on the sidewalk no fucks given
Everyone is there to take your money and that is it
Low life as fuck only cyberpunk main theme missing is it never rains so never that cool wet look on everything


Its pretty much full of asians at this point tho so I guess its anouther asian city

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What kind of punk would Toronto be

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztGzzvchcUQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VTKEx0N0DCY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ugt4FJ3xFAQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=17LBp19MADw

Too much emphasis on aesthetics in modern cyberpunk. Most people forget the point.

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>>61100999
Naw has to be high tech AND low life people all over
PNW is all pumpkin spice eating neckbeard faggots
>>61101006
Also asian citys always seem to be grimmy as fuck
Maybe its because people are packed in there so everything gets used so much
sidewalks dirty as fuck overflowing trash bins random old shitty bicycle about

>>61101025
What are some large companies based in Toronto? What are the ghettos like?

>>61101006
>Asians would be the majority ethnic group and generally be everywhere in the future
i know they are at least one of those in most big cities.

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>>61101028
On a point basis the most cyberpunk place in the world would be india
Everyone has crazy tech and knowledge but literally poo in the streets and are skum
But it has no aesthetics Maybe its too dirty?

Neuromancer takes place in Chiba City, somewhere inbetween Boston and Atlanta; let's say Richmond; and on a satellite. One of those places?

>>61101042
Basically every major city in Australia.

China has 1 billion people. India has 1 billion people.

I don't particularly care who is the majority anywhere since I'm going to die relatively soon, but what did people think would happen with globalism? You have 2 billion people from Asian countries spreading out to every western country imaginable. Not only that, people are welcoming it. Culture will be lost to the countries that have the most people. What're you gonnado.

>>61101075
>What're you gonna do?

Either give in to globalization and take part in some general assimilation (in both directions) or go the nationalist route and inevitably lose a conflict to the larger force.

>>61101075
not very punk of you chummer, maybe you took the wrong right turn here?
the minute everyone got addicted to cheap asian goods, was the minute that bell was rung. hard to unring it too.

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>>61101059
>Everyone has crazy tech and knowledge

>>61101059
Eh, I don't know much about India honestly. What do their rich look like? See a main facet of cyberpunk is definitely low life and tech everywhere, but there also has to be an upper crust. Elite corporations doing shady ass shit.

>>61101075
New culture will emerge, this is the march of history.

Is there even a more cyberpunk concept than Globalization though? This thread was asking about particular cities. and I asked in this post >>61101128 about the upper crust / corporations in India and it really kind of dawned on me that India's upper crust is the west.

Gibson was honestly right. Cyberpunk as literary speculation is fucking dead. The entire fucking world is cyberpunk. Barely regulated corporatism fucking over the third world, Rich ass motherfuckers getting richer by distributing fairly inexpensive (for the most part) tech to the masses, and it's all happening worldwide. Not just in particular cities.

>>61101032
Lol. Never been to Portland I take it? I could show you some shit bruh.
Don't forget. Anything on i5 is dangerous because alot of the big movers use it.

>>61101128
>>61101175
they have their own upper caste. some pictures of the high end high rises next to poverty stricken shacks.
there are winners in every country, the west hasn't been all that great to some 3rd world countries, but they are not all peasants, vast majority are sure but there is an upper class nearly everywhere. unless they haven't been run out or anything, then the new upper class forms anyway.

>>61100084

high tech city, full of corruption, cold citizens and capitalistic as fuck? Seoul.

>>61100185
it's literally an experimental zone for just that

http://wikitravel.org/en/Shenzhen

china's closed off zone of experiments

Kowloon.

>>61100838
In HK atm

Pretty cyber. Was in SZ a few years ago and I don't remember it being particularly cyber, just a big Chinese city

>>61101059
How is that anywhere near cyberpunk?

I'd probably consider a Taipai in Taiwan a candidate too.

>>61101025
Gentripunk/hipstertrash

>>61100096
>Tokyo

Tokyo, while very high tech, is the cleanest, most orderly city in the world, and I am from Scandinavia.

>>61102228
>the cleanest
have you ever been there? it's the most overrated city in the world next to paris and even most Japanese avoid it like the plague unless they really need to do business there.

>>61100084
Astrakhan, Russia.

>>61102261
>most japanese avoid it like the plague
>more than a third of japanese live there

japan has flyover hillbillies, too, it's just a better country because they count for less

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Guiyang China

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>>61101025
pop punk

>>61100908
But no city in India is nearly cyberpunkesque like Tokyo or Shenzen or Hong Kong.The infrastructure is beyond shit.Just like most things.

>>61100084
It actually depends on the kind of cyberpunk you want

Industrial is Shenzhen.
Tokyo is Cultural/Consumist/Gang.

Alternatively you can also look to Macau if you're looking for Corporate Cyber.

Cuba.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFPjJM6yYS8

>>61100342
yeah i mean, fishermans are fishing with recycled drones, nothing cyberpunk bout that

>>61101028
The point is
1. High tech, low life
2.
>Anything that can be done to a rat can be done to a human
being. And we can do most anything to rats. This is a hard thing to
think about, but it's the truth. It won't go away because we cover our
eyes.
>*This* is cyberpunk.
>-Bruce Sterling. Cyberpunk in the Nineties

>>61101175
>Barely regulated corporatism fucking over the third world
That's what the press loves to talk about, but make no mistake, the main thing fucking over the third world is the interference by the US government. Cyberpunk was, in a way, overoptimistic in supposing that governments would fade away.

>>61100096
I havent seen much of Tokyo so I can't say for sure, but I dont think Seoul is super cyberpunk, I think the other cities in Korea are more cyberpunk, there's this very interesting blend, you'll see a broken down shack with a big screen tv in it, or be in some broken down dilapidated area and then there's a super bright, new looking vending machine. Idk, it's cool. Also the places with endless alley's going all over the place.

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>>61100084
Hong Kong

High tech, 40-story houses, and people literally living in cages

>>61101175
>The entire fucking world is cyberpunk.
This same thought crossed my mind a while back. Relatively cheap but advanced electronics are pretty much (almost) everywhere, while corporate influence grows daily, worldwide.

>>61101025
tfw
>low life
without
>high tech

fuck this city t.bh

>>61103399
That is pretty fucking insane.

Lots of cities in Latin America are literally cyberpunk in morals/culture, but not really technological.

I'd say that in 30-40 years Sao Paulo will be cyberpunk in all senses.

>>61101025
just a waste of space desu

>>61101075
>Australia
>culture

Nothing of value was lost. Anglocucks can't admit it out of some misplaced sense of cultural superiority that Asian migration was perhaps the best outcome for Australia, considering non white migration was always going to happen as Anglos have had below replacement birth rates for generations. Australia was going to end up much worse than Japan if the government didn't open the borders to Asian immigration . Atleast with highly selective immigration,you're not getting literal human trash, unlike Europe and you're instead getting uttermensch higher ed students from the elite classes and skilled workers from Asia who will contribute more to your society than the average bogan neet. Perhaps you should work on that Anglo birth rate instead of blaming hard working immigrants for the fact that your people fail to have replacement levels birth rates

>>61102261
Yes, and >>61102228 is right. Tokyo is extremely clean. It's crowded, sure, but it's very well maintained.

>>61100084

Tokyo hands down, no competition

The original and one and only

That said with cash you can go anywhere in the world an make any city your own cyberpunk exp, alot in Asia

>>61103457
>interference by the US government
this guy gets it. The moment you start to compete with US some "incident" happens and your country goes to shit.
An easy example: You know you can't plant cotton in Afghanistan right, now guess who is the largest exporter of cotton???

>>61101025
Cuckpunk

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>>61101006
>Asian cities are really kind of low hanging fruit for cyberpunk. It ticks off many check boxes for aesthetics, but really cyberpunk originally featured predominately Asian things in the west. It was done as an exercise in extrapolating Asian population growth at the time and expected future immigration. Cyperpunk speculators just kind of assumed Asians would be the majority ethnic group and generally be everywhere in the future

Yeah but check out these aesthetics

>>61105395
It'll still happen, China is the next superpower and renminbi will become the reverse currency of the world, instead of the United States dollar.
I, for one, look forward to that day.

>>61105441
>*reserve currency

>>61100905
>Detroit is niggerpunk
We call ourselves "ghettotech".
>t. Detroiter

>>61105441
I'm not really looking forward to that day, I can barely speak Japanese after 3 years of studying it, I have no idea how bad learning chink would be.

Kyoto.

>>61105441
Chinks can't even build a jet engine

>>61105529
Hahaha have you ever been to Kyoto? It just looks like it's stuck in the 90s.

>>61101059
That's definitely the cyberpunk aesthetic

I've never actually been there, but I imagine it would be London. With its widespread surveillance, and a government that is hostile towards encryption, and where you might actually be put in jail for thought crime.

I imagine many chinese cities could qualify too, due to many of the same reasons.

Mogadishu

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>>61101059
Modern Indians like the Arabs, generally have shitty tastes in architecture and aesthetics. If Indians were to go through a building boom, most of their cities will probably look like shoddy versions of the typical oil rich gulf Arab city.

>>61105531
That's funny, considering most of American everything is manufactured in China. :^)

>>61105711
Not true at all

Finding American made products is very easy ... unless it has a circuit board

>>61105721
Wewlad
>America can manufacture shampoo
>China can into electrical engineering
Wewlad

>>61105677
They always have.
The love gaudiness.
For instance, historic temples gilded with gold (literally): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Temple,_Sripuram

>>61105744
>>61105744
>the markup and profit on the shampoo is larger
kek

>>61105711
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>61101062
The characters also visit Turkey for a short while but the way it's told feels more like the place hasn't had any development since early 20th century.

>>61101010
Aside from the Mexican thing you could apply that to virtually every tech city in Asia even Hong Kong

T. Lived in Shenzhen

>>61105922
>I like having really expensive shampoo
No wonder American hygiene is so lax, and it obivously isn't because of Hispanics.

>>61106116
>being poor
Are you, by chance, from Europe? :^)

>>61106139
FUCK YOU! FUCK YOU! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! YOU KILLED YOUR FATHERLANDS IN WW2 YOU FUCKING BASTARDS, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE! FUCK YOU! AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

>>61106145
There's this poster on 4chan I'd like him to take care of. He posts under the name of "Prashant Swain". Can you forward that to him?

>>61101010
holy fucking shit 10/10

>>61101010

nah vegas isn't cyberpunk at all because macau is where it's at, its own category for degeneracy and voidness

>>61100084

just noticed how tall this chick is, high tier

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>>61100084

Hong Kong, obviously.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOeVdyXEiOc

>>61102265
Post pics

>>61100084
Hong Kong

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Dubai. Government is a corporation, 20 years ago it didn't exist, and they 3D print buildings.

>>61107082

lol no lived there preboom 80s in my youth it's a ghost city where moolah rules and sovereign fund based, I wouldn't call a desert without culture and full of immigrant pajeets. working on the tourist and financial epicenter turning plaque with its local degeneracy for the region but it still lacks something genuine to be cyberpunkd because absolutely nothing around

>>61106641

hk is still under the shadow of its bigger brother and although the majority of the city is privately owned its still a taipan playground versus singapore which is a hallmark of regulative clean behavior besides both don't have enough ballpark to be established as a true cyberpunk arena this is why tokyo is still the original destination as far connectivity to alternative local cities go

afaik even kuala lumpur and jakarta have a larger cyberpunk footprint to stomp on than nation cities like hk/sg

>>61101025
ManButt punk

>>61101025
I remember that building in an episode of Flashpoint. Looks cool. Everything else about toronto is just a cheap imitation of new york.

If toronto tried to be its own place it might be cool, Like Montreal or Vancouver. But it only tries to be new york....

>>61107082
outside dubai's "old city" it's just a bunch of skyscrapers and sand. good at depicting an abandoned city more than cyberpunk.

>>61101025
GRIDcore/queerwave

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>>61101025
>>61107340

>using planned architecture esthetic to justify cyberpunk culture

sydney opera and disney loo gering queerish design without any foundation

>>61107408
so accurate

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>tfw wanted to visit some of these cities
>know that I would spend the majority of the time in my hotel room

>>61100084
Why does her shirt say "Cuck"?

>>61107853
She wants you to cuck your race for her, she wants you to be a filthy race mixer.
Don't fall for it.
Come home, white man.

>>61100892
Moscow is kind of shit. The old churches and red square really ruin it.

>>61101025
spunkpunk

>>61107853
Photoshop

>>61108141
>Come home, white man.
What, to europe?

Soon, Jing-Jin-Ji. A single city bigger than GB or Japan. Some of it is extremely rich, some of it is extremely poor that relies on the extremely rich's garbage for survival.

>>61100185
This. Also China is communist, so it's second world, BTW.

>>61100203
LoL, /pol/ gets triggered so has to go hide in his hugbox.

>>61105441
india is superpower 2030.

>>61109204
Doubt it.

>>61109168
China is only communist in name, their economy is more akin to Victorian capitalism.

>>61109194
>finding gooks and chinks disgusting
>triggered

>>61107368
I wonder how it will look like in 50 years, with temperatures rising above average in that area. I bet it will be inhabitable, just a few decaying skyscrapers rising from the sand.

>>61105677 he dead now
http://www.hindustantimes.com/india-news/pune-s-gold-shirt-man-killed-with-stones-sharp-weapons/story-ZPQohK67nJ5hrqsJangnMP.html

>>61101075
Get fucked low tier Anglo cuck

>>61105517
From what I hear, learning to speak it is "quite" easy. It's the writing that is hell

>>61110168
That's what they said about Japanese too, I learned enough in a couple of years to travel around freely, keep up in basic conversation and talk about most simple things, but not enough to read porn games completely.

It still wasn't "easy", it did take a lot of time and effort.

>>61100084
MIAD-777

Cute

>>61101028
The writer of neuromancer said that Shibuya was cyberpunk.

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>>61100084
Kowloon Walled City. All else is second.

>>61111391
kowloon got demolished a long time ago
there's a park on those lands now

>>61111444
Damn your reality digits.

>>61111391
Kek so this is where Ghost in the Shell bullshit comes from

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>>61100096
Tokyo is not very cyberpunk at all, Osaka much moreso. Osaka is really just better than Tokyo in every way, also. Tokyo mostly just sucks, honestly.

>>61100096
>>61100185
>>61100201
>>61100229
>>61100342
>>61103399
>>61103828
I've only been to Shanghai, but it was pretty fuckin /cyb/. I was walking around in cramped and cloistered communist residential lane housing (pic related), where local kids hung their clubbing outfits over the streets and lived three families to a house, and I came through an arch and I was right under the lit elevated freeway (pic incoming).

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>>61112897

>>61111391
>>61111427
>>61111444
>>61111479
My one huge regret is that I was born too late to ever visit this place.

>>61111444
holy guacamole that post number

>>61112908
V A P O R W A V E