T440s the most underrated ThinkPad

>>61077128
are there any x2** series that are affordable to this point and have 720p or 1080p? I like it small and comfy. no homo

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>>61077128
Runs your autism OS just fine too

>>61077128
enjoy your lenovo rootkits

>>61077128
That keyboard looks like shit m8.

>>61077128
>T550
>550€
>a bit extra to not have to fuck around with the trackpad, one gen newer processor, better battery and longer warranty

>>61077147
Got a refurbished T430 with Core i3-3320M, 8 GB of RAM and a 256 GB SSD for £220 last week. Same specs that I have in my current main laptop and nice to use.

>keyboard

>>61077128
>tfw retired my t60 yesterday
just not worth buying a new battery for at this point tbqh with you joe

>>61077128
>no physical buttons for the clit
I'd rather just stick with a fucking Surface at that point.

>>61077372
>I can't read

>>61077128
>ULV Haswell
>1 RAM slot, 4gb soldered to mobo
>no cd/dvd drive, can't get a second 2.5" drive

>>61077407
>you literally need to replace the trackpad with a 30 dollar, backdoored version from Chinkistan just to make it usable
Wew.

>>61077372
OP already mentioned you can get a replacement.

>>61077447
>from Chinkistan

You mean....like the rest of the Thinkpad?
Or did you mean like your Apple Throttlebook?

>>61077128
>secondhand laptop
>decent battery life
don't kid yourself

>>61077357
Is it still viable for netsurfing and some programming?

I can buy it for like $40, is it worth it?

>>61077497
Eh, I probably wouldn't wish it on you for $40. You're probably better of saving for something better.

It's workable but pretty sluggish, even running Xubuntu. It can do 480p youtube videos no problem, which really on it's screen isn't too bad. Other than that it's fine for shitposting and general browsing if you don't mind being confined to a few tabs and certain sites taking a bit longer to load than others. One huge problem that's been plaguing it for years (regardless of OS) is sometimes the wireless card doesn't activate on booting and it needs to be restarted.

I upgraded the processor to a 2.33 GHz Core 2 (the fastest its mobo could take) last year but recently wanted the SSD I put inside it for something else. Once I put its old HDD back in the battery life went to complete shit again. Another consequence of changing the CPU is that it hits this weird BIOS protection screen that it has to just sit at for about 45 seconds upon every boot, quite annoying when you need to restart it 3-4 times sometimes just to get the wireless working. The only thing it really has going for it still is it's keyboard and clitmouse.

>>61077447
>implying the originals aren't made in china by a chinese factory for a chinese company
found the classroom retard

>>61077495
>what is a replacement battery

How's battery life?

Isn't this the thinkpad with the 12gb RAM limit?
>trashman.jpg

>>61077128
>chiclet keyboard

dropped

-posted from my x120e with a chiclet keyboard

>>61080019
Honest question, what do people do that they need that much memory? I don't think I ever go above 8gb.

>>61080194
>x120e
KAWAII

>>61080269
>Honest question, what do people do that they need that much memory? I don't think I ever go above 8gb.
For me, it's photo editing with really big photos and an autoblogging script I run for my affiliate marketing stuff that builds 30 sites at a time. Both of those use every bit of 16gb of RAM.
For normies, it's just another level of future "proofing" for your device to support as much RAM as possible.

New chassis ThinkPads are all garbage. The true cutoff point was the xx30 generation, at least you could swap out the keyboard if you really really wanted to. Anything later is fucking trash, its when the women took over and started cost cutting and getting rid of nice innovative things like the ThinkLight which is miles better than a backlit keyboard.

Its not underrated, there's a reason its so cheap. Nobody wants it. Hasn't that occurred to you?

>>61080269
>Honest question, what do people do that they need that much memory?
A hundred chrome tabs loading motherless.

>>61079395
Don't bother. He's an appledrone who simply cannot comprehend the idea that laptops could come with a battery that can be replaced by the end user.

>>61077128
>shit tier touchpad can be replaced with 20 dollar T450 touchpad from chinks
Does this still require bios and driver mods?

>>61080622

plug n' play for me.
I use only gnu/linux, though.

>>61077128
>Underpowered cpu
No thanks anon

>>61081482
If you do actual intensive work (95% of /g/ ruled out), then it might be an issue. Otherwise, /g/ isn't going to notice a difference.

>>61080622
All you need to do is install the correct driver and then blacklist it from ever being updated by Windows.

https://www.camerongray.me/2015/02/fitting-physical-trackpoint-buttons-to-a-lenovo-thinkpad-t440s/
https://www.howtogeek.com/263851/how-to-prevent-windows-from-automatically-updating-specific-drivers/

As far as I know, it works right out of the box with Linux now.

>>61080269
Don't always need 16GB but occasionally have to juggle a memory hog IDE with other tools and 8GB is cutting it close for me.

>>61077497
t61 is good for web browsing, and I'm pretty sure the t61 is a budget model from around the same time so yes, it's fine

>>61082599
But I can get a better cpu for cheaper and get more or less similar battery life anon

It's not that I'm going to notice how slow it is
It's just I really don't care for the bump from 900 to 1080 and I don't care much for the ips viewing angles are or colors.
My trash T430 screen is good enough for me and my T430 costs a third less than any T440 variant or x240.

I don't have anything against the xx40 series (except for f keys) it's just I feel like I'm paying too much for not a lot more

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>>61077128
Ayooo

1080p IPS display, 500GB SSD, trackpad mod

>>61077128
dell latitude e7450 is better, cheaper, thinnner, and nicer screens.

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>>61077495

What do you define as decent battery life?

I consider anything that isnt running an extended battery with 5+ hours good battery life.

>>61077128
It has the worst touchpad I have ever had the misfortune of using. It would sometimes stop working completely until I rebooted the system. I ended up giving it to my mom.

>>61077128

>Intel ME

nah

>>61083494
How long have you had it for and what do you think of it?

>>61083702
>dell latitude
Actual shit tier chiclet keyboards, whereas chinkpads are at least tactile

>>61077482
>not using old IBM thinkpads
PLEB
L
E
B

>>61083939
Nice job regurgitating the shit you read online.

Ive owned a t420 (with old style kb) a t61p an r50, and t430/x230t with the new style.

The keyboard on the dell lat e7450 has better tactile feedback than all those. And this is coming from someone whos been on thinkpads for years.

>>61083830


stop looking at child porn, you fucking disgusting piece of shit.

>>61077128
tbqh

I picked up an x220 for ultra cheap recently,

mint condition. the low resolution does not bother me

>>61084160
0.0001 sheck lel's have been deposited in your acount

>>61084194
I wish i was getting paid to shill..

Sadly, It's not whats happening here.

>>61084225
>he does it for free

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Where is your argument, OP?

>>61084147
If they're actually different than the keyboard I've used on the E5440, then I take it back. If not, then my point stands. The one on the E5440 was wobbly as fuck with no feedback.

>>61084171
what are you going to use it for anon?

>>61084291
uni and stuff :3

>>61084270
when did you realize your post was as valuable as your life, anon?

>>61084304
how much did you snag it for?

t540p has the worst screen i've ever used, worse than compaq displays from 1998, but i like it otherwise

>>61084304
Do people comment about it at all?

>>61084309
bout 150 dollars
>>61084320
nope, in fact thinkpads are like the second most common laptop at my uni, behind macbooks

>>61084328
Interesting, are the old classic keyboards still more popular than the chiclets?

>>61084348
unsure but I like the old style

>>61084286
>E5440
None of my keys are wobbly, and have really good feedback.
So maybe yours was one with a chinese knock off purchased from chinkbay

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Why does chinkshit take so fucking long to arrive anyway? I can order stuff from the US and have it on my doorstep in the UK in like a week, China to the UK always takes like a month or more.

>>61077128
will this get shiny with my oily skin?

>>61085668
Why do you keep paying for cheapest shit tier economical shipping? If anything, it's the opposite for me. $10 USPS shipping takes an entire month to get to the UK while my AliExpress orders with free chink shit shipping get here in 9-30 days.

>>61085748
The palm rest shouldn't wear down too much but the keyboard is always replaceable.

>>61077147
get a x200, x220 or x230
they have a 720p screen or higher are cheap and easy to upgrade

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>>61080538
>mfw

That nip makes me cream desu.

>>61077128
As an owner of a T440s the only bad thing with it is that w10 constantly uninstalls the T450 trackpad drivers.

Linux supports it natively though in new-ish kernels.

>>61077128
>haslel trash
lmao

>>61077147
220 or 230 are about 250 now. 12.5 inch i series

>>61086203
reeeeee
but thats ok tho so this is pretty neato. I just wonder how EliteBooks can not get greasy and shiny over time. Maybe the oleophobic coating? but thinkpads are water resistant still arent they?

>>61086807
only the keyboard is water resistant. And it's heavily questionable.

>>61083039
>I don't care much for the ips
But anon, IPS for a laptop is one of the most important things, I'd say
If you use your laptop in not perfect conditions(like on a table) IPS helps a lot

>>61087197
yeah when the oleophobic coating can be worn to a point where body oils damage the keys i wouldnt trust it with a spill. The 'Book took a coffee cup to the face and still doesnt get grease stains for the trackpad and keyboard.

>>61083494
Why the fuck would you put the trackpad in upside down

I bought a refurb T440P about 2 weeks ago for $220 on ebay, got a $45 1080p IPS screen replacement with better color than stock.

Seriously guise, don't pay an extra $200 for a crappier IPS, the replacement is incredibly easy. Unsnap the bezel, 4 screws, and one cable.

>>61086476
You're cancer

my t440s died this morning turned on and after the lenovo logo it just black screens

help

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Decent laptop, and battery life is okay if you replace them. With the extended battery, I get around 8 hours of work. It can theoretically last up to 14 hours, but I've never had the need to go without a charge that long.

Replaced the TouchPad immediately after I got it, and it has been my go to laptop since. Added an extra 250GB SSD to the m.2 socket that normally houses a mobile modem for LTE.

The machine is absolutely silent, and even under load won't get very loud.

I have the i7 meme dual core processor and 12GBs of RAM with 2 SSDs. Though it's by no means a fast machine in terms of raw power, and makes sacrifices in performance in favor of battery life, weight, and noise. Autodesk Fusion and AutoCAD seems to run well, but I haven't modeled anything serious on my laptop. It has trouble running Lightroom for some reason, though it runs other RAW editors just fine. Because of this, I usually do heavy work on my desktop and shitpost on my laptop.

It runs light games fine, like FTL. More performance heavy games, like CS:GO run at below 60 FPS on the lightest settings at any resolution. This is not a laptop for heavy tasks, but I didn't expect it to be. If you want this to be a mobile gaming rig, look somewhere else.

Keyboard is the best laptop keyboard currently available, but that doesn't really say much considering the current market. I'll be looking at the Retro ThinkPad when more news arrives.

All the pros and cons considered, I would still recommend this laptop. It is extremely reliable, and not once had I ran out of battery during the day. I mainly use it to browse the web, type emails, edit photos on the go, and talk on Discord and it does that job perfectly well.

>>61087320
Yeah but the 180 degree hinge just let's me tilt it any angle I want. I do see your point though you always don't have the space the open it that much

>>61087518
that's the correct way up
>index finger on left click
>middle finger on clit-mouse
>ring finger on right click

>>61088197
What kind of a freak are you
>middle/index on clit
>thumb on left click
>whatever for right click

>>61083747
>90%, 4h 20min
>20 min later
>15%, 57min

lenovo

>>61077128
>>1080p models going for 450-500 dollars on eBay
There's a reason; lack of percieved value.

>>61077128
enjoy your cucked applel wannabe keyboard

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEZMNXz1JY

meh, not buying another laptop until ryzen mobile.

>>61077208
feels like one too...

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[Posted from my Thinkpad X220]
26.06.2017

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Flying through with my superior t510

>>61077128
>1080p

hi grandpa

>>61088634
i'm not buying another laptop until ARM

>>61088720
>ARM
lel

>>61088699
Your shit-res display is bad and you should feel bad.

>>61089001
1366 x 768
It could be worse.

>>61089052
>It could be worse.
It could be better though

>61088699
Enjoy your shit-tier PWM raping your eyes in secret

>>61086688
You can blacklist Windows from updating drivers.
https://www.howtogeek.com/263851/how-to-prevent-windows-from-automatically-updating-specific-drivers/

>>61086724
Can you name a single alternative that can beat it for the price?

>>61088070
Sounds like it might just be what I'm looking for in a laptop. Thanks for sharing, anon.

>>61088699
>heavy and bulky
>shit tier resolution display
>superior

>>61089297
> Step One: Find the Hardware IDs for the Device in Device Manager
And people still shitpost about "loonix".

>>61089369
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Loonix, is in fact, GNU/Loonix, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Loonix. Loonix is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Loonix", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.
There really is a Loonix, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Loonix is the colonel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The colonel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by himself; he can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Loonix is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Loonix added, or GNU/Loonix. All the so-called "Loonix" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Loonix.

>>61089457
> GNU
> not Ganoo
Ya blew it.

>>61089360
>heavy
Anon is needing the gym

>>61089810
it's pronounced GNU though.

>>61077239
>15.4"
Not portable

>>61088197
Faggot Lenovo sells them like this

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One thing that I've always wondered about thinkpads is: are the pointing sticks removable? (without the need for disassemble).

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>tfw waiting for my X220 to arrive

>>61091145
Why would you want to remove the nipple

>>61091145
yes
bud why D:

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>>61083918
I've had it for almost two years now. I'm currently getting an engineering masters, so I needed something with plenty of ports and a long battery life that I could use to program with. It's honestly the best computer I've ever "invested in", considering I got it for around $400 plus the cost of the IPS panel (~80 bucks), 500GB SSD, Extra RAM, and three-button trackpad. I dual-boot windows and arch on this thing and everything has just been a breeze.

I bought one of the extended batteries as well. The cool thing about the t44x series and up is that they have hot-swappable batteries, since they have internal 3-cell battery packs underneath the palm rest. Windows and Linux both show two battery level indicators.

The keyboard is fantastic. I have the non-backlit one, which I prefer since I don't need to look down at the keys in the dark anyway and this one has a much better texture. The key travel and response is also miles better than any other laptop I've used, including the Dell XPS and the 2013/2015/2016 Macbook Pros.

This thing has never failed me, even when I dropped it around 10 times due to a backpack with a poor zipper design. It was no problem, since parts were readily available online. For under 100 bucks, I was able to buy a replacement back cover, top cover, and palm rest.

Not trying to convince anyone to buy it, but when I told my friends this, four of them followed suit and bought the same model or the t450s. They love theirs as well. If you're looking for a cheap and reliable laptop that only really needs a couple of upgrades to be a comfortable main machine, then look no further.

>>61077128
>small enter keyboard
disgusting

>>61093991
>all this wasted space for a memecard reader

>>61094069
It's a business machine. Most of them have smart card readers.

Regardless, there's really nothing else that will fit there. The internal battery actually lies on top of that, so they managed their space pretty well.

>>61080377
the t440 also has a garbage trackpad and no real buttons for the trackpoint. synaptics drivers are somehow now garbage from lenovo, even on the newer models - the newest mouse drivers for my X1 Yoga gen1 cause WMI to go 100% CPU usage. I had to disable the trackpoint because, despite the button being fine and not pressed (checked under the key, clean, no spills, etc.) it was scrolling constantly

>>61080377
>There's a reason its so cheap

It's cheap cause it's old. The xx30 generation of laptops are even cheaper.

At least the newer xx40 machines are compatible with xx50,60,70, and soon 80 docks/batteries/keyboards.

>>61094005
>being this new
You know you can just buy ThinkPad keyboard for whatever layout you want, right? Most ThinkPads resold in your country will be for your country's layout

>>61095191
it doesn't change the fact small enter key is disgusting

>>61095356
Debateable. I find the the symmetry on ANSI keyboards to be better looking.

>>61094342
Correct answer. Same reason why autism tier ThinkPads are pocket change.

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didn't even do the touchpad mod because using a mouse is for peasants

>>61083942
So you use a T40?