/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

>using distributions for 3 years now
>never changed them
>realized quickly what a distribution is and what the key features are
>found one and settled on it

Ultimate feel, the Nirvana.

Currently installing linux mint. Was this a mistake?

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grsecurity on suicide watch
https://www.spinics.net/lists/kernel/msg2540934.html

>>61058325
>gsecurity
What are they and what do they do?

>>61058368
grsecurity*

>>61058399
>>61058368
Nevermind, I Googled them like I should've done before asking.

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>>61058444
trips of truth

what desktop/wm you use?

>>61058493
Dubs, and then trips? I'm on fire today!

>>61058494
Arch/i3wm

anyone try xfce4-terminal --drop-down yet? Pretty snazzy, huh?

>>61058494
Xfce on ZorinOS Lite

>>61058524
Arch is not a desktop.

>>61058668
Yes, I misunderstood his question.

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>>61057746
Is it possible to add gaps to ordinary i3wm? With some compositor or something?

I don't wanna download i3-gaps from AUR since I prefer official packages.

>>61058668
He just wanted to point out that he is using Arch Linux (btw).

>>61058683
Just compile it youself.
Whats that wifi-menu, btw?

Okay, complete noobfag here, i am installing ubuntu onto my hdd where i have 50GB of unasigned space and 450GB partition where i keep shit like movies and such
How do i tell ubuntu to install itself into the 50GB partition and not touch the 450GB one? Based on what the installer says it seems like it wants to wipe the whole hdd

>>61058683
If you connect to the internet using Wi-Fi only, edit your i3 status bar config to remove the Ethernet indicator because it looks ugly.

>>61058683
Which distro are you using?

>>61058733
The same distro that most of us are using; Arch.
(btw, I'm using Arch too).

>>61058746
>he fell for the arch meme

>>61058714
nmtui. Part of the NetworkManager package. Very nice ncurses wifi menu.

>>61058755
Thanks.

>>61058752
Is it still a meme if I like it and am proud of using it? I think not.

>>61058730
Good idea. Don't think it looks ugly, but it's unneccessary nevertheless.

Hey, does anyone know how can I make those ascii-graphic battery indicators on i3status? Like showing "[------|===]" when battery is on 50% and "[-----------|=]" when battery is almost empty?

>>61058772
proud of using a distro?
why?

>>61058893
Why not?
Fags are proud to be fags, and I shouldn't be proud of a distro that I like?

how to sync files with google drive?

Should i create separate partitions for home and for / ? I would like to have it all on / because having separate partitions is a massive pain in the ass if i run out of space on / and such, is there some big drawback to have them both on one partition?

>>61058683

Gaps go against the very principle of i3, which is saving space.
Kretenu glupi.

>>61059006

No, keep it on one.

>>61058874

n="$(($(</sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_now)*100/$(</sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/charge_full)))";b='──────────';for((i=1;i<=$((n/10));i++));do b=${b/─/━};done;printf '%s\n' "${b}"

>>61059006
yes
look into lvm

>>61059017
the point of tiling is not saving space and being ugly.

>>61058948
lol

>>61059017
Sta je, Laki je malo nervozan? :)

>>61059006
If you run out of room and get a new hdd for /home you can just copy everything over and change fstab. Going the other way is harder.

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Linux SUCKS. Why? Because:

1) Command lines/Lack of GUI's

Why the fvck would I want to use a command line? I have a modern computer, capable of displaying color and icons. Why should their be a command line? And further, why doesn't everything have a gui? Gui's are good, and easy, and don't require me to learn commands. Yey for Gui's.

2)Root/sudo is stupid.

Why on earth should I have to deal with either using sudo or running as root to actually use my programs? I still can't get a lot of programs to run because they keep whining about permissions. What ever happened to good old admin accounts? Why does sudo break everything?

3)Apt-get

Now this is just plane stupid. Why is it so damn hard to install anything? I have a desktop, why not do it the way it should be done? I get the installer icon, click on it, press forward a few times, wait, and have a nice icon on my desktop. Why isn't it done this way?

4)Compiling

Again, stupid. Just give me a fvcking installer program. None of this compiling sh1t.

Come on Linux. The rest of the world has moved beyond 1990. It's time for you to do so also. I'm giving up and installing windows.

>>61059101
Are there any applications in /home ? because if /home is for storing music, photos and such, then i won't be using it at all since i have a seaprate partition where i keep all of my data

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>>61059105
GNU/Linux*

I can't run the symlinks I create unless I'm root, what am I missing?

>>61058714
>>61058767
use setnet.sh instead and ditch that fucking abomination called networkmanager

>>61059116
So what you are currently doing is basically the same as having /home on a separate partition, except that your configuration files will be lost if you wipe /. In other words, you already understand the benefits of keeping your data and your OS on separate partitions; add to that the idea of saving your personal settings together with the rest of your data, and you understand the benefits of keeping /home on a separate partition.

>>61059158
>setnet.sh
what

>>61059116
No. If not storing media there it had config stuff and downloads desktop, documents.

>>61059158
You don't run symlinks but the things they point to.

>>61059168

Why is Network Manager an abomination?

>>61059198
huge and bloated for so little it does.

>>61059178

Probably his little shell script which he copy/pasted from the internet and adjusted himself, despite it only being 5 lines of calling other utilities. He thinks it makes him cool and a hacker.

>>61059209

It's 10MB on my hard drive. Fortunately I have a hard drive from 2000 and later so I can stomach it.

>>61059194
yeah, no shit but if I create one and put it in /usr/local/bin and wrtie it in the terminal it gives me errors if I'm no root

>>61059176
Alright thanks, so if i never store anything there and only settings and configs reside there, if i made a partition for it what would be the smallest amount of so it wont run out?

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What are some cool terminal commands?

Sup /g/

A year back I switched to Ubuntu because I didn't want to download 4+ GBs Windows ISO. Got a new laptop with Windows 10 this year but downloaded enough porn to not want to format and go back to Linux. Also this laptop had an AMD graphics card (M330) along with integrated Intel one so I am not sure if the drivers will be available. Yesterday there was a thread about having a Windows vm in Qemu that had access to graphics memory and worked with 99.5% efficiency according to the anon who said that so I can play games too. Just googled and found that my controller, Logitech F310, wouldn't have any problem running on Linux. Should I make the move? Is there anything that might not work?

>>61059237
If you don't store any big files on your home directoy yourself, the biggest thing there will probably be your browser's cache or something like that. I'd say a few hundred MB, so one GB should be a safe ceiling value. But I wouldn't recommend keeping /home on a separate partition for that kind of usage. I say, either keep it separate and use it to store your media, or keep it in the same partition as / and just take care to back up any settings you care about yourself (or automate it).

>>61059315
install gentoo

>>61059345
Will probably go for Debian. And thats not a reply to what I asked.

>>61059328
Eh, steam installs to your home directory too.

>>61059315
99.5% efficiency sounds fully contrived to me.

>>61059370
you can move your steam library (where the games at) to anywhere you have write permissions and you can have more steam library locations, just like in windows.

>>61059328
Actually, I take that back. Unless I were really constrained for space, I'd still keep /home on a separate partition - what's 1GB in exchange for safely keeping all your configuration between reinstalls? I did put it all in one single partition in one of those old eeePCs that only have a 4GB SSD.

>>61059370
That's another wonderful reason to mount /home on some big partition, but if that is not possible a symlink should fix it. That notwithstanding,
>running steam

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>>61059370
>vidya gayms
>on leenix

>>61059469
Wagecuck almost wizard here, I still play videogames, watch anime, read mango, and fap furiously to chines cartoon porn comics.

>>61059260
rate this stupid hack:

alias done='done; (mpv --no-terminal /usr/share/sounds/freedesktop/stereo/complete.oga &)'

for i in 1; do sleep $i; done

>>61059328
Can't you just ctrl c&v the /home directory before you reinstall, and then paste it onto a new partition and tell the new install to use that partition as /home ?

>>61059396
So he was just meming?

what is the best linux distro?

I feel as if I would learn more from reading:
>Debian GNU/Linux FAQ 165p
>Debian Installation Guide 398p
>The Debian Administrator's Handbook 1106p
And then installing Debian unstable/testing.
Compared to simply installing Ubuntu GNOME LTS and not really understanding as much
>ubuntu manual 167 pages

Is it silly for me to think I'd have more freedom and learn more how linux works if I go with debian?
I'm not sure what to do. I don't even have any understanding of an os other than the very basics I just want to educate myself and the documentation on the official debian site looks like a practical way to go about it. Anything I should read beforehand? Read about 50 pages of "How Linux Works" but I just feel like I'd be covering the same ground if I continue.

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>>61059560
https://linux-libre.fsfla.org/

>>61059560
install ubunut

Trying out KDE neon unstable. This'll be a ride

do you guys keep track of what packages you have installed?

>>61059508
>mpv --no-terminal
chroist, use paplay (pulseaudio ) or aplay (alsa) instead my friend.

Also, solution dumb as fuck, what if you need done and you don't want it to sound every time?

>>61059604
>Trying out KDE
Good luck, here's hoping your system doesn't hang.

>>61059626
aplay wount play oga files

>>61059627
Oh believe me, I'm expecting that to happen
>>61059626
Some people do. They're usually pretty anal about bloat though

>>61058494
desktop- arch+i3wm
laptop- devuan+xfce

>>61059637
ehat about paplay?

>>61059560
gentoo

>>61059105
v v v
>>61059766

>>61059763
Compile times are too long. Maybe if CPUs get faster, this will be a viable option.

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>>61059105

>>61059797
>he doesn't have the newest, fastest Intel cpu

>>61059817
I still have a Sandy Bridge Intlel Core i3 CPU and it's fine for most computing tasks.

>>61059817
>he has a cpu with backdoors

Windows SUCKS. Why? Because:

1) GUI's/Lack of Command lines

Why the fvck would I want to use a GUI? I have a modern keyboard, capable of using all 10 fingers. Why should their be a GUI? And further, why doesn't everything have a command line? Command lines are good, and easy, and don't require me to learn buttons. Yey for command line's

2)Admin is stupid.

Why on earth should I have to deal with either using UAC or running as administrator to actually use my programs? I still can't get a lot of programs to run because they keep whining about permissions. What ever happened to good old sudo? Why does UAC break everything?

3)Installers

Now this is just plane stupid. Why is it so damn hard to install anything? I have a desktop, why not do it the way it should be done? I get the package manager, type in the name of the package, wait, and have a nice icon on my desktop. Why isn't it done this way?

4)Installing

Again, stupid. Just give me a fvcking source tarball. None of this installing sh1t.

Come on windows. The rest of the world has moved beyond 1990. It's time for you to do so also. I'm giving up and installing linux.

>>61059846
>implying there are usable CPUs without backdoors

>>61059797
Maybe you should batch it overnight then?

>>61059860
>>>/trash/

>>61059512
Yes. For best results, rather than just ^C ^V you should use some method that you can trust to keep all file attributes (read the cp man page, or use rsync, a tar pipe, etc), but yes.

>>61059563
You'll have more freedom in the ethical sense with Debian because it keeps free and non-free software separate and easily allows you to achieve a fully-free OS.

As for learning, no big difference, although I find that Ubuntu uses many fancy shmancy abstraction layers that actually make the system harder to understand and configure, whereas in Debian I just edit the same old text files that have been in use for ages. But, basically, you'll learn as much as you're motivated to, with any distro.

>>61059860
kek

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>>61059860

I want to try gentoo, should I?

>>61059860
this

want to switch my DE from unity because it has weird issues with my monitor dowscaled from 4k to 1080p
>gnome3 looks like a tablet
>kde looks alien
>xfce looks like shit
is there no winning?

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>>61059860

>>61059920
real men use stali

>>61059920
install kali and hack the planet

>>61059941
Kali is a meme distro

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Is there any way to rice xfce to make it look acceptable?

>>61059951
kali is a meme is a meme

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>>61059941

>>61059951
so is gentoo

>>61059956
Install KDE

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Stop lowercase posting.

>>61059956
It's just a GTK theme.

>>61059979
>1366x768
>wicd symbol
>battery meter
>4 cores
Do you want to guess why I don't want to do that?

>>61059985
install gentoo

>>61059990
But are there acceptable looking gtk themes for xfce? If so, which?

>>61059994
Install GNOME

>>61059985
It's the high influx of phone redditors.

>>61060020
What's wrong with reddit?

>>61060010
there's no such thing as "gtk theme for xfce". It's just a GTK theme. Use your favourite search engine and search for "gtk themes"

>>61060042
you have to go

>>61060042
You have to go back.

>>61060010
paper looks nice, go to youtube and search xfce ricing, you'll find plenty of shit
(I hope you aren't using multiple monitors or have a nvidia graphics card though).

>>61060042
It's open source.

>>61059994

Why? You're an idiot if you think base KDE Plasma 2 is significantly more demanding Xfce.

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>>61060042

>>61060051
But they have to be gtk2, right? Or are they reverse compatible?
>>61060072
Paper is only icons?

So I'm reinstalling. Been using GNOME since forever, should I go for KDE for the proper filepicker or Xfce?

>>61060042
nothing - it's just that 4chin has inferiority complex

>>61059956
Yes.

>>61060042
>con
Reddit resposts original content from 4chan.
>pro
Open source

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>>61060091
nigger fucking google xfce ricing, jesus fucking christ

>>61058325
hmmmmm, if pure garbage is less vulnerable to exploits than linux kernel, I wonder what that means linux kernel is?

>>61060102
Did you just complain about 4chan?

>>61060091
Both GTK2 and GTK3

>>61060122
Stop namefagging.

>>61060144
kek

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>>61059941
>t. Hackerman

>>61060122
>google
>shilling the botnet in a friendly thread

>>61060144
Stop namefagging.
>>61060124
Stop lowercase posting.
>>61060057
>>61060068
>>61060102
>>61060113
Stop falling for low quality baits.

>>61059315
anyone?

>>61059260

less -f /dev/null

>>61059931
Have you used stali?

>>61060100
kde for filepicker
xfce for light DE
MATE if you preffered the old GNOME.

>>61059315
You should format your hard drive, then clean it (zero out all the bytes) to make sure that there's nothing left of W*ndow$, then install a GNU/Linux distribution.
Yes your hardware will most likely be supported unless it's very old/obscure.
I hope this helps.

>>61060211
What does it do? Forcefully reading nothing?

>>61059315
virtualization is the biggest meme since ssds

>>61060268
Effectively the same as

sleep infinity

>>61059260
https://devnull-as-a-service.com/code/

>>61060246
You are telling me to delete 250+ gigs of unwatched porn?

>>61060291
>

sleep infinity

This is neat, din't know about this. Why isn't this documented?

>>61060291
Nevermind it misread and thought it said

tail -f /dev/null

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>>61059315
Pardon me for one moment. What you are calling Linux, is in actuality, GNU/Linux, or as I have nicknamed it, GNU plus Linux. Linux isn't an operating system by itself, but it is just another part of the GNU system, which has been extended in functionality via various GNU components (including GNU's shell utilities and corelibs) which only then fit the definition of a complete operating system as outlined by POSIX.

There are many people today who are running the GNU operating system without even being aware of it. Through a strange turn of events, a misnomer has emerged where people refer to a widely used version of the GNU system as "Linux", unaware that the proper name for the system they run is the GNU operating system.

Now while they are in fact using Linux, it is only one component of the system that they run. Linux is used as the kernel: the part of an operating system which distributes a machine's resources to other programs which request them. While this functionality is essential for the successful functioning of a system, it cannot function on its own, it needs an operating system within which it can carry out its functions. Linux is commonly paired with the GNU operating system: the entirety of the system is GNU with the addition of Linux, or GNU/Linux. Every single "Linux Distribution" is actually a distribution of GNU/Linux.

>>61060325
>clear out some gigs of storage (10-50)
>defragment
>shrink partition
>make new ntfs partition
>move over porn
>defragment, shrink
>move over porn
>repeat until there's nothing left in the windows partition
>remove it
>install gnu/linux
>make ext4 partition
>move over porn
>remove ntfs partition
>expand ext4 partition

>>61060325
>having this much porn

>>61060328
>meanwhile on busybox

sleep: invalid number 'infinity'

kek

>>61060358
Wait. The porn is in a different partition encrypted with truecrypt. There windows in C:\ and nothing else.

>Gentoo
>~167 Programs needed to upgrade
>Pentuim J3710

real    648m37.528s
user    1149m56.108s
sys     182m17.020s

How did i do rehddit?

>>61060325
It's worthless anyway. Get a girlfriend, friend.
If you must keep it, get another disk and copy your pr0n to it, then proceed as I explained earlier.

>>61060328
"inf" works too

>>61060291

cc -x c <(printf 'int main(void){for(;;);}\n') && ./a.out

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>>61060325

>>61060398
Remove C:\, mount the truecrypt ntfs partition under linux.

>>61060443
That's not sleeping, that's busy looping that may overheat your computer

>>61060396
busybox sleep 99999d

>>61060325
You are like a little baby even if that is all 2D porn in the comic format.

>>61060325
>>61060358
>>61060380
>>61060412
>>61060412
Here's a better solution:
Dedicate one day of your life (or maybe less) when you are free, then proceed to binge-watch all of it at once, masturbating as you do.
Then when you delete it, you won't feel that you downloaded in vain.

>>61060331
>

tail -f /dev/null

actually this will make tail loop when other processes write to null

>>61060398
>TrueCrypt
It's not secure anymore. It's not updated, and development stopped very suddenly with the developer telling users to use something else; which highly suggests that it's been backdoored by authorities.
Don't use it.

>>61060528
The dev told people to use backdoored native Windows encryption

>>61060461
What I want to know is if I format C drive and install linux on it, will it in any way make D and E drives inaccessible?

>>61060528
>>61060549
Its just so I keep all my NSFW things in a container so I dont open something in from of someone by mistake.

>>61060549
Maybe they did it so that skeptics would think about it a little bit, and deduce that TrueCrypt is backdoored too, because they aren't allowed to straight out tell them that it's backdoored.
It's like a warrant canary strategy.

>>61060573
>What I want to know is if I format C drive and install linux on it, will it in any way make D and E drives inaccessible?
If you only format C: and install Linux on it, other partitions are not gonna disappear. You can mount them and use them (using ntfs-3g).
Just make sure you don't wipe them during installation by mistake.

>>61060328
floating point support means also that N may be decimal, hexadecimal or infinity

sleep 2e6

im having weird issues like ghosting and artifacts.
im using unity on my 4k monitor that i downscale down to 1080p
i've been trying out tons of liveUSB distros to see which have this issue, and only some do

do: unity, mate
dont: xfce,kde,gnome (and windows)

is there some obvious pattern?

>>61060623
Floating point (IEEE 754) support means it could be any of these things:
>NaN
>+INF
>-INF
>Negative number
>Positive number
>Real numbers (kinda)

>>61060657
Why downscale?

>>61060623
lmao
>tfw sleeping 1337 seconds in hex

sleep 0x539

>>61060702
my laptop doesnt have displayport or anything that can handle the bandwidth of 4k
also the monitor isnt mine so upgrading just for this isnt relevant

How do I eliminate the need to type my password every time I want to do something? Linux Mint btw

>>61060742
use root.
it's very secure, don't worry :)))))))))))))

>>61060613
Thanks m8

>>61060304
Their "contribution to the open-source community":

sudo rm -rf $(sudo find / -type f | shuf -n1) 

kek

>>61060775
This is stupid, because if it's

-type f

, then it's a file, and not a directory, therefore rm doesn't need the -r flag.

>>61060742
you configure sudo so it doesnt ask for password.
%wheel ALL=(ALL) ALL

you will still need sudo to do thing like apt-get install but when you do sudo apt-get install it wont ask for a password

>>61060742
that was wrong.
%wheel ALL=(ALL) NOPASSWD: ALL

>>61060757
How do I do that? I know how to gain access in a terminal, but I still get asked for a password whenever I want to open the GUI package manager or relaunch terminal.
>>61060820
>>61060799
What do I do with this?

I kind of want to go back to Windows

>>61060775
kek

>>61060528
Kill yourself you fucking kike apologist. TrueCrypt is known to be not backdoored, and the encryption is strong. It's one of the few pieces of software you know for sure wasn't tampered with by the NSA. Why do you think (((they))) spread rumors about it?
>>61060573
As long as you're not using a key file, no. Boot from live USB and try mounting them to make sure.

>>61060855
This is a friendly thread. Please be friendly.

>>61060742

$ man sudoers

$ man sudo.conf

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>>61060855

>>61060877
Nobody is going to read all that shit, there are man pages that are useful, those are not.

>>61060891
Topkek

>>61060855
Development stops and the main developers puts "It's not secure anymore please use <known backdoored piece of shit>" instead.

If it doesn't raise a fucking red flag immediately I don't know what would, getting hit by one in the face?

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>>61060742
You don't. Stop.
>>61060877
Stop.

>>61060908
RTFM. We're not gonna spoonfeed you.

>>61060916
You can't force security on people who don't want it.

>inb4 NSA

>>61060921
did you really learnt how to use sudo reading those man pages?

>>61060908
I've seen way worse manpages than those.

>>61060930
Not sure if he even knows why sudo is useful if he needs to ask how to get rid of it.

>>61060742

passwd

<enter password>
<space, enter, space, enter?

>>61060934
I skimmed through them when I wanted to do something I didn't know how to do.
Furthermore, what you're trying to do is not secure at all, and you shouldn't do it unless you know what you're doing.

>>61059627
Never happened on my machine.
Closed, can't replicate.

>>61060944
I don't and I don't want to. I just want convenience, just like on Windows. I'm not concerned with the CIA spying on me and shit

>>61060908
maybe you want to look up how to properly navigate man pages. did you know that you can use a search in them?

>>61060962
I'm not they,
what I'm saying is that those man pages are only useful if you know what you are looking for, someone that doesn't know about nopasswd will not find about that there.

>>61060996
He will eventually, if he reads it.

>>61061008
What is the point of this thread?

>>61060979
This isn't about spying, this is about installing viruses, botnets and other shit that will slow down, take over or even outright destroy your system. How convenient is it to not have a working machine?

sudo does not provides security for a normal user, what it provides is a way to not fuck things up accidentally.
if a user has unrestricted sudo then for all purpose that user is root.
you dont need root to keylog on xorg.

>>61061018
shitposting

>>61061025
But that's part of the "just like Windows" package

>>61061025
I use common sense(tm), so it's not a problem for me.

>>61061018
Alright, here's what you can do:

# vim /etc/sudoers

(# means root privileges, i.e. execute this with sudo)

Then type / to enter search, then type NOPASSWD and press enter, then uncomment the resulting line, and comment the one above it.*
This will give enable all members of the group wheel to use sudo with no password.

* Assuming you have the same sudoers file as me (I'm on Arch).

>>61061064
Thank you, I'll try that now

>>61061064
>implying user knows how to use vim

>>61061064
Or he can also use this, which is better imo, because users will have to type their passwords at least once per session:
>https://apple.stackexchange.com/a/51763

>>61061064
if you dont know how to use vim type this
EDITOR=nano visudo

>>61061101
He should know to use another text editor instead.

>>61061101
I'm pretty sure it's a text editor, so it shouldn't be all that complicated even for a mong like me

>>61061101
That's the plan, he's gonna be trapped in it forever since he won't figure out how to quit it.

>>61061056
Even on Windows I use the UAC. I activate UAC for all my clients too. It's the best thing Microsoft produced since XP.

>>61061063
Then use common sense and properly use and configure sudo. nopasswd isn't the only option to make your user experience more convenient.

>>61061122
If it's your first time, I highly encourage you to type

vimtutor

, and read the tutorial.

>>61061102
nice.

>>61060979
>I just want convenience
So could you explain what you're doing allday on your computer which requires root privs?

youruser ALL= (root) NOPASSWD: /usr/bin/apt

>>61061171
Opening the software manager for one

>>61061203
sudo apt-get install botnet

>>61061227
tell me more about the botnet that is hosted on the debian repos.

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>>61061064
># vim /etc/sudoers
Christ, can't you read?

>>61061242
Chromium? It's a web browser.

>>61061245
Yeah,

sudo visudo

.

Is pic related better than plain ubuntu?
Why?
What profits do I get?

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>>61061274
now pic related, lel

>>61061242
The non-free repo.

>>61061274
Well, I'd probably take Ubuntu over plain nothing.

>>61061274
>>61061295
Why don't you try both and tell us?

>>61061295
MINT IS NOT SECURE

I'm installing gentoo right now and it makes me hard.

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>>61061295

>>61061312
downloading right now.
I thought MAYBE it will be a bit lighter than unity, which would be nice on my x220, but on my desktop I actually dont care about how bloated my DE is

>>61061363
man, please read the post above yours. mint is really, really bad.

>>61061346
wew, this sounds not very awesome desu.
Maybe I stick with ubuntu or try to get used to xubuntu, lubuntu or maybe even a tiling WM not sure yet

>>61061394
Debian stable with xfce or even KDE or GNOME is better than both Mint and Ubuntu(s).

I can't get the tearfree option for intel graphics working in archlinux. I've been using lubuntu lately and it has it enabled and seems to work fine. They both are on similar versions of xf86-video-intel. What's wrong?

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THIS IS THE OS YOU SHILL 24/7/365 THERE IS LITERALLY NOTHING TO DO ON IT CANT SEE SHIT NO BROWSER NO NOTHING JUST A BLACK SCREEN WITH GIBBERISH WRITTEN ON IT THAT MAKES NO SENSE TO A NORMAL PERSON. WHAT DO I DO NOW TO MAKE IT USABLE?

>>61061295
no.

>>61061363
> lighter than unity
ubuntu is not unity.
unity is not ubuntu.
you know you can install cinnamon/gnome/xfce/whtvr on plain ubuntu, right?

>>61061420
yeah prolly doing this.
Atm thinking about XFCE or LXDE. Not really sure, but I think XFCE

>>61061479
Now you realize that no matter which OS you use you won't get a girlfriend, ever.

>>61061479
apt-get install gf

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>>61061479
>not installing the desktop

>>61061479
I can't even remember the last time one shilled this distro.

>>61061510
>implying i am single

>>61061520
see >>61061420

>>61061518
dont want to install that package twice
>>61061519
any wiki where i should read what should one do after a base install?
>>61061520
i didnt even use the word distro in my post

>>61061510
Unless you write a nice terminal frontend for cleverbot.

>>61061560
I assumed you made a mistake since we're in a GNU/Linux thread. 'Shilling' the OS here simply makes no sense.

>>61061532
He right, so that's not shilling. Even replying with
>install gentoo
is closer to shilling than giving correct and useful information.

>>61061479
I remember not picking out a DE out of the box the first time too kek. Three years later and I use it on everything I can, Debian is great.

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Is this too outdated? if so what are some good alternatives

just installed KDE
how do i get a cursor that doesnt look like shit?
something like ubuntu's default or [spoiler]windows[/spoiler]

>>61061875
>using a mouse

>>61061875
https://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/qna/11617.html
literally googled 'kde change cursor'

>>61061933
Should have searx'd it.

>>61061933
yeah no
almost no cursor themes are complete (so some just use the disgusting default) and those that are look like some tacky shit

>>61061944
well it was startpage actually

What's the point in using top when htop is superior in every way?

>>61062005
top is installed by default

>>61062005
htop is an additional package.

>>61062005
What's the point of bitching about what people use?

>>61062037
when does this not happen on /g/?

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>>61061510
>you won't get a girlfriend, ever.

>liking 3D pigs
quit being a raging homosexual and learn to use blender.

>>61062057
>t. 3d pig

>>61062057
There is literally nothing wrong with liking dick.

>>61062107
dafuq? being a faggot is fine.

>>61062031
>>61062035
Most distros come with htop as one of their basic packages along with top.

>>61062005
I prefer top.

>>61062130
wew lad

>>61062130
Thats nice, i'm more of a bottom. i'm a taurus, if you're a scorpio maybe we can hang out sometime.

>>61062005
>not scripint ps so it looks like top/htop

>>61062168
>not searching /proc for process information manually and making an interface that looks like top

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thoughts on vtop?

>>61058325
Linus is such an iconic pearson.

One day systemd will be replaced with a nodejs/electron app.

>>61062215
how small can you make it?

>>61062240
>t. pajeet

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>>61062215
Htop displays the information better, very neat. I have no need for a dedicated task manager when I have htop.

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I've installed ubuntu server on my laptop, but I'm to dumb to use CLI only interface. When I try to sudo apt-get install python3-pip I get bunch of E: failed to fetch... and also when I try 'ping google.com' I get 'ping: google.com: Name or service not known'. Does anyone knows what gives? I configured WPA wifi using wpa_supplicant. Ubuntu version is 17.04

>>61062275
Can you disable the stupid help line at the bottom?

>>61062275
>50 second uptime
what the fuck are you doing, per!?

>>61062288
is your resolv.conf file empty?

>>61062290
Yeah, in options.

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thoughts on glances?

>>61062318
>caring about uptime

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Thoughts about htop?

>>61062318
He just started his VM do post an image of htop

>>61062288
>I configured WPA wifi using wpa_supplicant
If you mean exactly that, you still need to configure your network. If I'm not mistaken, wpa_supplicant associates you with a WPA access point but you still need to set up your network interface - use dhclient if the network uses DHCP, ifconfig/ip otherwise.

If you used tome higher-level wrapper that should have taken care of everything, maybe post the output of route, ifconfig, and the contents of /etc/resolv.conf as that other anon said.

>>61062337
Where?

>>61062215
>node

>>61061479
So I thought I should install something and installed i3. But still I see this fucking terminal only. How to start i3?

>>61059260
Calculate pi to 10000 places. Took me 15 minutes on my single core, kek.
echo "scale=10000;4*a(1)" | bc -l

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>>61058444
>googled

>>61062336
resolv.conf has only one line, not inlcuding comments
>nameserver 127.0.0.53

>>61062368
I don't know how to do this. And posting output is almost impossible since I only have a terminal emulator, not gui. I'll google dhclient

>>61062395
Relax, guy, I didn't actually use the website google.com, but "I duckduckgoed (duckduckwent?)" doesn't have the same ring to it.
I should have just said that I searched the web.

>>61062419
>using inferior search engines

>>61062419
duckduckgo is still botnet

random fact: the guy that made htop also made gobolinux.

>>61062439
Post more.

>>61062439
WTF! I love gobolinux now!

>>61062419
why didn't you startpageit?

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>>61062452
Duckduckgo is more convenient, and is free software too (Apache 2.0 license)
>https://github.com/duckduckgo/duckduckgo
And it has !bangs

>>61062408
You could do this while you figure that out:

Run "ifconfig", see if "lo" is the only interface that shows up or there are more. For reference, "ifconfig -a" shows all your interfaces - any interface missing from the output of plain ifconfig is currently down. If your wireless interface isn't up, that's your problem right there. Proceed with dhclient, I'd say.

>>61062502
>>61062502
I have 'wlp1s0' and it's UP. And ifconfig -a gives additional enp2s0. And there is also 'lo' which is also UP

>>61062369
I looked around and I don't think you can hide it, sorry man.

>>61062383
anyone?

>>61062502
THANKS!
I did sudo dhclient wlp1s0, and now it is installing python3-pip package. I don't know what exactly sudo dhclient wlp1s0 does though.

next >>> >>61062629

>>61062639
>vivaldi
is this bait

>>61062654
I'm testing it.

>>61062617
dhclient is a client for the DHCP protocol, which is used to automagically obtain an IP address and other basic network configuration. With a GUI tool this is usually integrated in the same process as associating with the access point, so the fact that they're separate things may be understandably counter-intuitive to you.

>>61062617
You shouldn't run commands someone posted on the internet without knowing what they do

>>61062383
>>61062572
read this
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/I3

ignore the fact that it's for a superior distribution. it contains a lot of information about i3 and how it is invoked. notice that arch probably does some things that you might have to do manually.

>>61062654
whats wrong about vivaldi?

>>61062713
I know, but this command seemed harmless.

>>61062699
Thanks.

>>61062740
botnet

>>61062735
>Edit Xinitrc, and add:
>exec i3
How would I do that?

>>61062815
nano ~/.xinitrc

>>61062815
>read this
>i3 is a dynamic tiling window manager inspired by wmii that is primarily targeted at developers and advanced users.

>Edit Xinitrc
>How would I do that?
Let's continue this in the next thread. You might learn a lot of things today.

>>61062803
oh for fucks sake what am I gonna use other than firefox for browsing then

>>61061479
>NORMAL PERSON
>>61062383
If you are not capable or willing of using your nearest search engine and do some reading you should probably install gnome, senpai.

>>61062851
Icecat

>>61062965
>Firefox fork

>mfw triple boot arch, ubuntu, and chromeos

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>>61063167
you don't have a face?