Audiophiles

>>61041787
Gamers.

>>61041787
Linux users

/g/

apple users

>>61041787
freetards

drone hobbyists

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Microsofties and their tiny shriveled limp dicks.

streamers

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>use cheap Chinese shit all my life
>want to see what the audiophile meme is all about
>buy entry level equipment
>sounds the same if not worse

>>61041970
Try a pair of BA headphones and if you won't hear the difference you're confirmed deaf. But it also might be shitty music, modern popular music is optimized for shitty speakers.

>>61042023
>modern popular music is optimized for shitty speakers
no idea where that nonsense is coming from
of course everything is tweaked to sound at least acceptable on a shitty playback device, but that's been that way since the early days of recorded music
today's laptop speakers and iphone earbuds are the same thing that before were tiny kitchen radios, crosley style all in one players and boomboxes

>>61041787
>mfw that setup probably costs north of $10000
>mfw I could probably enjoy a live orchestra every day for a month for that much
>mfw these people don't even like music, just listening to a wave generator every day
>mfw my $50 MDR XB-500 have lasted me for 7 years
>mfw my $140 DT-770 Pro have lasted me less than one
>mfw I prefer the sound of niggerbass on the sony ones
At least Beyer sells spares, but it's gonna be another $80.
Fuck hifi man, I'm sporting bluetooth JVC in ears, and they sound fucking fantastic for $30.
Anons, don't fall for that shit. Grab cans at your local store and be sure to put your jams throught them before buying. If they tell you that they can't be tested beforehand, move on. Sound is subjective, you don't listen to numbers or graphs. You listen to music.

>>61041787
gamers that fight for their favourite hardware company against fans of another hardware company. not only do they regularly give them money for products but they also shill for them for free.
that's probably about as bad as audiopaedophilia

>>61041787
\g\ is the worst.

I'm from \b\

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>>61041970
Got memed hard.

>>61042093
>he doesn't know the shitty mixing practices and abuse of compressors in today production.

>>61041787
C++ haters

>>61042093
>everything is tweaked to sound at least acceptable on a shitty playback device
No. If there's no millions of cash dumped into track's creation it won't be mastered with the lowest common denominator in mind. It might even be, god forbid, designed to retain its dynamic range!

>>61041970
Because you still use mp3s retard

>>61042106
>mfw my $140 DT-770 Pro have lasted me less than one
those headphones are really fucking comfy and sound great, but i also had a pair die on me within a year. cord started getting a weak connection to the can, and then one of the drivers died. open it up and see the shittiest solder job inside.

>>61042162
>shitty mixing practices
It's just a ways of mixing that YOU don't like.

t. hardcore techno producer

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>>61042106
its probably closer to around $5000

the HD800s you can get used for about $900

he's using an Emotiva device which tends to be less expensive (reasonable) though still good

the most expensive thing on his set up is probably his shitty macbook which you can also get used

ideally he should get actual tower speakers instead of using headphones

>>61042175
Actually the more money dumped into production the more compressed it'll be because lets face it, only record companies can afford those values and they love shitty masters

>>61042198
Of course you'd defend it there's no dynamics in techno but loud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ

>>61041787
r'ing pic of him with low bitrate file open

>>61042208
>Actually the more money dumped into production the more compressed it'll be
Reread my post, because that's what I said.

>>61042198
Of course I don't like it, because I usually listen music that requires that dynamic range is left more or less intact.
The problem is extending that to all genres, even those who use natural dynamics.
Techno is okay, is mostly beat.

>>61042208
>love shitty masters
wat

>>61042198
The only mixing techno fags do is brick wall limiting

>>61041907
At least you have good taste in music.

>>61042198
>t. hardcore techno producer
Out of interest, ever dabbled into industrial hardcore?

>>61042222
ever hear Oakenfold?

>>61042181
It was FLAC you deluded retard.

>>61042106
>audiophiles that are also hipsters
>listening to obscure music that was recorded on equipment worth 5x less than their listening equipment

>>61042198
yo, drop me a phat beat to troll these losers with

>>61043221
Most of my music is done in DAWs. Purely digital music is as demanding as it gets, other music is limited by the recording equipment.

>>61041823
This

Anyone have audiophile double blind tests? Either bitrate or hardware comparisons. Test result data, not for me personally to take.

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>>61041970
What equipment were you using an what did you buy

>>61041823
>>61041852
>>61041882
>>61041890
>>61041912
And
>>61043330+>>61043372
/thread.

>>61043372
He said "technology community", not fashion accessory comnunity.

Chinkpad fanatics
Apple fanatics
Obscure Linux distro fanatics
Car audio enthusiasts
Vape mod faggots
"Amateur" coders (unemployed neets who know html5 and Java)

>>61043756
Here's that faggot that doesn't know the difference between Java and JavaScript again.

doom9

>>61041787

Apple users. Although that's arguably fashion and not technology.

>>61043778

Not him but that's why you're part of one of the worst technology community.

>>61043897
Knowing the difference between a car and a carpet makes me inferior to somebody? I don't even know these languages, but I know that they have nothing in common.

>>61041802
>>61041823
Linux gamers.

Also:
>>61041852
>>61041829
>>61041908
>>61042164

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>>61041787
>buying expensive headphones
>wasting storage space with lossless audio
Is there a dumber technology community?

>>61044424
>Spending hundreds on special snowflake keycaps for your mech keyboard

waiting for full octaphonic + VR setup

>>61041787
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L34S4Tt1EuQ

>>61044424
With what else would I fill my storage, brainlet?

>25 MB extra for a better quality music file you listen to and enjoy multiple times
vs
>10 GB extra for a higher resolution movie that you watch once and never again (but still keep "just in case you want to watch it again")

>>61044107
>linux gamers
This. They are so fucking insecure about their OS choice, they're the worst kind of Linux users.

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>>61041787
no

As always, piss poor NEETs with autism enjoy shitting on enthusiasts with hobbies and disposable income. Because when mommy burns the chicken tendies after putting herself in a Xanax/wine induced coma, all that there's left to do is shit on successful people who may enjoy spending some money on stereo equipment/nice headphones because they like to listen to music.

>>61044424
You need lossless for storage though.

>>61044424
>buying expensive headphones
> just Play music on YouTube

>>61041787

Take toxic nerddom, combine it with the bizon-headed stubborness of advanced age and well, no, there's no worse technology community.

Mechanical keyboard nerds are up there though.

Every month or so I go to the Star Citizen subreddit. This is a not even half finished game that people are dropping four figures on thinking it will be the perfect game. This week there was a post about how more spaceships should be in the $50-100 price range rather than above. I couldn't believe it at first but these guys drop $100 regularly on in-game items for a game that doesn't and will never exist.

Gamers are probably the most gullible consumers the world has ever seen.

>>61046731
Dear god this is so fucking true. Nothing more cringy than paying for something that doesn't even exist yet.

At least audiophiles spend money on tangible objects...

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>>61046731
>>61046795

Makes me think I should start a game making huge promises, get lots of crowdfunding and totally fail to deliver due to "unforeseen expenses"

>>61046731
It's retarded how they see themselves as a community kek. Like they are cheering the company on and the devs sit day and night working their asses off to provide this perfect game because everyone cares so deeply. They don't see they are just consumers, and the producers figured with standards dropping so low you don't even need a product to sell, only the promise of it. They raised what, north of 100 million? And they'll probably double it before everyone realizes they've been had. Why would they release the game even? They are making 10x as much per consumer by not releasing it.

HD 650 + Schiit Stack is all you need.

>>61041787

>That guy (or three) that always has a LOL AUDIOPHOOLS thread up
>Excuse to repost the same videos, gifs and pictures every fucking thread
>All you need is chink shit / HD600 / MEME OF THE MONTH, anything else is stupid

You guys sure show them every day, how dare someone else enjoy something that you don't! Whining faggots are just as bad as people who throw away money for the sake of throwing away money.

...and yes, I'm just as bad for whining about the whining faggots.

>>61048037
kys

>>61042106
>mfw I could probably enjoy a live orchestra every day for a month for that much

Every night for about 18 months factoring in subscriber discounts, classical music is not that expensive outside meme gala events. Assuming he doesn't like literally everything, he could see out his years attending every live concert featuring a given set of composers.

I blame Sgt Pepper as a formative experience. that persuaded people things could sound better than real. I go to see a local (but internationally known) orchestra fairly often and it sounds excellent allowing for not every seat having equal acoustics. What it doesn't sound like, because nothing can, is the kind of language used in reviews to describe his amplifier.

>>61045500
I do this with all my flac albums so I wouldnt blame those who do the same with movies

>>61046731
I want Star Citizen to be good.
Every time I patch it, though, it's a buggy mess. Menus don't work properly, UI is fucked up, get stick in things, pop through walls, etc
I've been ejected out the roof/sides of my space ship so many times.

>>61048174
I mean, most of us have terabytes of storage lying around, it's not really a huge loss even if it is wasted on a meme.

>>61041802
fpbp

>>61046731
I can't imagine how much SC infuriates the Elite developers. Did they make a mistake by actually releasing something?

I bought a used sennheiser 600 + a sound blaster Omni audio card and I'm happy as fuck

>>61041802
this.

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My dream loudspeakers would be a pair of Seas A-26. It is a little bit unusual design for a two-way loudspeaker as it has a 10" woofer and 1½" dome tweeter.
The crossover is a single capacitor and resistor on the tweeter.
The aperiodically-loaded closed speaker enclosure enables the woofer to achieve excellent transient response.

>>61048469
Okay so, first off I don't blame you for having interest in this speaker because both of those drivers have some superb measurements and the original a-25 is famous for being that monstrosity of vintage speaker design that for some reason just worked extremely well in comparison to other speakers of the same era.

That being said, this design still has one flaw and that's the lack of well designed crossover. I will admit that these drivers behave well enough to attempt this sort of crossover, but you'll still run into woofer beaming and phasing issues inherent to designs like this.

If I were you, I'd consider using madisounds LEAP crossover design service to make you a 2 way crossover for those drivers and then make your own cabinet in a more traditional bass reflex configuration OR see if they'll do the measurements for the aperiodic enclosure in the a-26.

You'll lose some sensitivity but the sonic improvements would be major. Yes I design loudspeakers and I'm a book keeper for audiovox so I'm not talking out my ass.

>>61048932
I just found great interest in keeping things simple.

And isn't it possible to "tune" an aperiodic enclosure by measuring the woofer's impedance curve and adjusting the aperiodic damping?

>>61049778
It is, and that's why the a-25 did so well and the a-26 probably sounds good too.

That being said, the "simple" concept behind minimalist crossovers also causes huge sonic issues, especially when we have things like high order crossovers that reduce beaming and help off axis response.

I totally understand that the a-26 is more of a revision to the a-25 so it's using the same type of "crossover," but these speakers could go from great to endgame with some simple computer measurements and aided design.

mechanical keyboards

>>61048262
Like Elite Dangerous is an actual game. I had maybe 20-30 hours of fun before the "WOAH IT'S LIKE AN ACTUAL COCKPIT" shit wore off and I grew tired of endless grinding for a shitty ship I STILL had to spend 10 minutes flying from planet to planet because the space flight mechanics are utter shit.

>>61042198
>t. degenerate noise pollutant proliferating substandard mastering practices

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>>61049823
Is it possible to design passive crossover network without expensive software?

I'm aware that there are formulas for calculating the component values. But the formulas only work if the speaker driver is purely resistive load, which it is not.

I know next to nothing about this subject, but I'm thinking of marking "n" amount of discrete points on the speaker's impedance curve, and then using the calculation formulas and/or standard AC network analysis.

hey faggots you can order japanese market stereos off of amazon

>>61050044
This is absolutely possible, but at the end of the day you'll still want to do anechoic measurements and let a computer design because you'll be able to tune the slope and crossover point to exactly where it needs to be without much guesswork while smoothing out driver FQ irregularities. What you described is how most passive crossovers in the 70s were contrived before KEF starting doing computer aided design.

Madisound can do this entire process for about $90 with any two drivers.

https://www.amazon.com/JVC-Kenwood-compact-component-EX-S5-T

https://www.amazon.com/digital-audio-player-WALKMAN-NW-S14

>>61050044
Something I also failed to mention was the fact that these software programs can also account for first wave reflections and adjust the excitement of the drivers to avoid them (something no person could do on their own).

I'm just saying if you're going to spend a few hundred on a pair of a-26s having LEAP make a crossover for those drivers could bring the performance up by a lot and its only $90.

>>61044424
Not having a gigantic raid array so that it doesn't even matter.

>>61050159
>>61050229
That's really nice to know. Too bad I live in a third world country so I do not have access to that kind of service.

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WHAT'S WITH THE DAILY AUDIOPHILE HATE THREAD

>buy $200 headphones
>spend $200 on second hand amps and speakers
Sounds fucking great desu desu, it's not diminishing returns but it sounds much better than entry level

>>61051230
I wasn't aware dude. My bad. I hope you find a pair of a-25s someday :(

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OP is 100% right, idiotphiles are the worst

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqJmqhu2ga0

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>tfw noticing you have tinnitus and cant unhear it

>>61041787
Rooms and speakers are so varied that you might as well feel nice about your audio gear in some way.

>get it for free - no money bliss
>spend too much and feel good about that
>admire the design
>adherance to an ideology
>reverence to a designer or company
>old gear - miracle it still works.
>like the look/esthethic

Beyond that the thing that makes the most difference is the speakers and the room. If the amp is solid state and has a stated distortion %, they will sound identical. If it's tube then who knows...might sound pretty cool on some music and then get irritating or tiring on others.

Just get something and feel good about it.

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>>61055045
>tfw thought I had tinnitus but it turned out to be faulty wiring in my ceiling light

>>61055045

I've had tinnitus for years for no particular reason. Sometimes I wish I would die.

>>61052812
thank you snek

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>>61052812
That looks like something infected from [Prototype]

>>61041802
I came to say this.

Am I supposed to be able to distinguish FLAC from MP3 with my Creative Aurvana Live?

>>61042202

heaven?

>>61058522
unlike what most audiophiles believe the gear doesn't really matter for that.
it's more about having some training in spotting the artifacts and being really familiar with the material you're comparing.
if that's the case then you can reliably abx 320 and lossless on any system that's not completely useless

>>61058719
Yeah holy shit someone gets it.

>"Huuurrrrrrrr mp3 is transparent and flac is pointless"
>Listens to an MP3 and flac of the same song in an abx test on $300 studio monitors
>Realizes that it's not transparent

>>61058522
Depends on the song. There are song you can spot it 10 out of 10 times one 10$ headphones because there are obvious artifacts.

It may sound uber strange but it does not have to be some classical music. The song I can 100% spot it is 50 Cent - Ayo Technology ft. Justin Timberlake. And It is funny how I spot it I don't even like rap and other retarded nigger genres. Song is played on the tv and bitrate was probably in the ass, and there was this huge artifacts in the background electronic beat. And I wondered how can someone keep it like this in production. Then I played in youtobe. Same shit. Download 320 mp3, same shit little bit better. Download the single in .flac and it just sounded so much different. Once you spot it you can never unhear it. It is just 100%. I have CAL! too i spot it on onboard audio I spot it on my chink dac, I spot it on my superlux 668b memes, I even spot it on my 10 years old philips shp1900 that cost 8$.
Can you spot it on some Metallica song cd rip that clips constantly. Good luck.
Some songs have have very subtle differences some don't. If recording is right and don't have some strange sound that just don't translate well in compressed audio like Ayo Technology you have to look for reverb artifacts. Maybe 90% of the music don't have difference or the difference is so slight you have to really know what to look for to spot it. Like other ppl said it is not about good hearing it is about trained hearing. Most rock musicians have worse hearing than you yet they are able to spot a guitar not tuned right in one strumming.

>>61041787
Linux Users
PC Master Race
Apple Fanboys

And any other elitist group...

I fell for the meme. Dropped 4k on audio equipment, it took me roughly 10 minutes to regret it and return it.
The only thing that I don't regret from it all is the headphones (which I kept), they do sound pretty great. The cabling and source made such little difference. I am astonished these audio companies get away with it.

>>61041787
I don't think so, even the consumer general are better than the threads about hardware

>>61059292
>Blow 4k on audio equipment
>Have shit room
>Listen for only 10 minutes

Nigga you are the meme.

>>61059384
It took 10 minutes to regret it, I had it for about a week

>>61059292
expensive headphones are not meme, although my limit is 1500$, anything more expensive doesn't make much sense and I can guarantee it has some meme technology in the description.

>>61048147
>Sgt Pepper as a formative experience. that persuaded people things could sound better than real
explain

>>61041787

The people who buy expensive "audiophile" grade equipment and listen to mp3's

Your ears are not highly sensitive audio measuring equipment. No one can hear the difference between FLAC and 320kbps MP3, and if you think you can, you're deluded.

>>61060223
too bad many people can verify it with abx tests.

>>61041787
>Audiophiles Anonymous 06/23/17(Fri)15:14:24 No.61041787▶>>61041802 >>61041823 >>61041882 >>61042106 >>61042124 >>61042130 >>61042164 >>61042234 >>61043837 >>61044424 >>61045335 >>61045910 >>61046676 >>61048037 >>61055111 >>61059078 >>61059318 >>61060114
>Is there a worse technology community?


The audiophile community is so awful, even audio engineers and music producers despise them and laugh at them

Just think about that

>>61060720
>even

>audio voodoo
>laughed upon by the scientific side
why is that surprising to you?

>>61060720
Just like mech keyboard people laugh at people who spend hundreds on keycaps, just like gamers who laugh at stupid schmucks who preorder games and hardware fanboys, just like car people that laugh at muscle car fanatics who still make rat rods that get 6mpg and are slower than Hondas.

Like let's be fucking real here. Enthusiast communities are not represented by the vocal minority, and it's usually the vocal minority that gives these people really bad names. Every hobby has the group of shitlords that make up 20% of the community, and the leftover 80% are usually rational human beings. Same applies to audiophiles.

>>61059902
Beatles narrative.

>>61041787
Someone post the "audio grade sata cables" that the fag is charging XXX for

>>61041907
how do these fake valves sound bro?

>>61046391
This.

There seems to be a lot of misconceptions in the music community regarding the differences between 320kbps mp3 and FLAC format. It is true that 320kbps is technically as good as FLAC, but there are other reasons to get music in a lossless format.

Hearing the difference now isn’t the reason to encode to FLAC. FLAC uses lossless compression, while MP3 is ‘lossy’. What this means is that for each year the MP3 sits on your hard drive, it will lose roughly 12kbps, assuming you have SATA – it’s about 15kbps on IDE, but only 7kbps on SCSI, due to rotational velocidensity. You don’t want to know how much worse it is on CD-ROM or other optical media.

I started collecting MP3s in about 2001, and if I try to play any of the tracks I downloaded back then, even the stuff I grabbed at 320kbps, they just sound like crap. The bass is terrible, the midrange…well don’t get me started. Some of those albums have degraded down to 32 or even 16kbps. FLAC rips from the same period still sound great, even if they weren’t stored correctly, in a cool, dry place. Seriously, stick to FLAC, you may not be able to hear the difference now, but in a year or two, you’ll be glad you did.

>>61063593
I love this meme so much.

Would a Lepai LP-2020A+ and a pair of Micca MB42X speakers go to waste hooked up to a ChinkPad T420 due to the poor onboard sound? Is there anything that could be done to salvage it or do I need a new laptop/desktop with a quality sound card?

>>61061094
Although I agree with you, who are we to tell those people not to enjoy their hobby the way they do?

>>61063593
>It is true that 320kbps is technically as good as FLAC
No, it isn't technically as good as FLAC. It's practically as good as FLAC, there's a difference.
MP3 compresses the sound and cuts off at certain frequencies, making it technically worse in quality than FLAC, even at 320 kbps. But you can't hear that difference, so a 320 kbps MP3 is practically as good as FLAC.

>>61041787
The electric guitar community is just as bad, if not worse.
>muh tonewood for solid bodies
>muh gibson™ bumblebee reproduction capacitors
>muh gibson™ everything
>muh nitrocellulose gives better tone than polyurethane
>gear investments over practice

>>61065370
I agree with that as well. The problem is when the minority in a hobby become overly vocal. That's why your average person thinks an audiophile spends thousands on cables.

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>>61065465
>so a 320 kbps MP3 is practically as good as FLAC.
Read the rest of my post. It is NOT practically as good, since your mp3 files will be complete garbage after only a few years, due to rotational velocidensity. They are a 'lossy' file format, in the sense that they literally lose data over time on a harddrive.

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>>61066682
Well duh, that's why you store them on a proper audiophile-grade SSD, connected with only the best audiophile-grade SATA cables such as pic related.
You're not poor, are you ?

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>>61066712
You do realize anytime you listen to the file, even if it's on an SSD, the audio quality will degrade? It is similar to that of a cassette tape - reading it literally breaks bits off its bitrate. It's not as bad as a hard drive, but after a while it should still be noticeable if you listen to the mp3 often.

>>61066712
>using SATA SSDs for music
>not using PCIE SSDs for maximum FLAC throughput

>>61066682
>>61066712
>Not spinning your hard drive platter in reverse to offset this, and then transcribing your entire music collection onto a gramaphone was drum

>>61066765
That's why you have a master FLAC stored in an archive that you can use to make high-quality MP3s from. That way, since FLAC isn't a lossy format, you can safely store your master FLACs on a harddrive, while copying high-quality MP3s to your audiophile SSD for playback with higher fidelity. Then you can always make a new MP3 when your old one has degraded noticeably in quality.

>>61066818
Are you retarded ? PCI-e SSDs sit too close to your motherboard, which causes electromagnetic interference to degrade even lossless audio files on the flash chips. Even worse than storing your MP3s on a hard drive.

>>61066887
Excuse me, wax

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People who still watch TWiT.tv/Leo Laporte

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>>61041787
>lays thicc insulated cables to connect everything together
>headphone cables are super thin

shouldn't this make him realise that the thicc cables do nothing, or else he would hear flaws caused by the thin headphone cables?

>>61066765
That's... that's not how data integrity works..

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>>61066973
Oh but it is. Ever wonder why image files from the 90s are so small in size and quality? Well they used to be of higher quality, but since they've been on the internet for so long, and have been watched and downloaded so many times, over time they degrade and are reduced in quality and size. It's not because of rotational velocidensity as such, but a similar principal called erratic datafriction, which as the name suggests grinds the file when it is in use.

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>>61067022

>>61041970
>drive bus whole life
>decide to buy entry level nissan shitbox
>drives the same if not worse
fucking memed man, I hate my life

In all seriousness, yeah you bought entry level equipment you fucking retard no wonder

>start company selling snek cables to audiphools
>???
>enjoy your money

>>61068423
Just buy PTFE cable, be good at soldering and braiding strands of it, offer RCA and speaker cables, and you're good to go. Me and a friend actually do this. We don't advertise as audiophile snakeoil bullshit, just well made and reliable.

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>>61068423
this

>>61059292
>>61059481
>spending $4k on audio gear at once
>when you clearly don't have any passion for it to begin with
yes, there are a ton of idiots in audiophilia, but not every audiophile is

my setup cost $1000 total, and it'll last me forever more or less, until I'm bored anyway. it's a much better value than SONOS or whatever shit Bose is putting out (I actually like Bose headphones tho)

>>61067485
If there's no difference in sound between $5 Chinese headphones and $150 entry level headphones with a $100 amp, why should anyone believe there's any difference up the ladder?

>>61041970
>Have no memory of what I had been using for headphones
>Whatever those were break
>For some reason use a USB headset for a few months
>Get some nice audio-technica
>Probably the first time a pair of headphones hasn't hurt
>Play some shit vidya I had been playing using exclusively the USB headset
>There's actual ambient sounds in the BGM that I couldn't hear
Clearly you needed to start with shittier shit.

if you can't tell a difference between some $100 IEMS and some included samsung or apple smartphone earbuds, you should probably get your ears checked because you must be deaf.

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>"you don't even begin to enter quality territory until the $3000+ bracket"

>>61042093
it's true though, google "loudness war". old music was a lot quieter and would just not sound good on shitty equipment that lacked amplifiers, while in today's age they make up for it by making everything loud as fuck while using dynamic compressing to avoid distorting their music.

>>61041787
Gamers who build high-end PCs with RGB

>>61071652
As it's already been said, dynamic range is only one of many parameters and not at all any kind of guarantee for audio quality. A lot of genres heavily depend on a at least somewhat compressed range and therefore it's more of an aesthetic and artistic choice at this point than just labels pushing pop music to louder and louder standards, which already peaked years ago - we've been going well down with average RMS since all the broadcast loudness norms and streaming portals' loudness targets for a good 10 years now.

>>61071652
It's not just that - lowest and highest frequencies are either simply avoided or emulated by the "missing fundamental" effect, because cheap speakers have trouble with those. And generally sounds designed to be less complex to not degrade much.

>>61071791
>lowest and highest frequencies avoided
>in this day and age of dubstep and pop edm being the most popular thing
I think you're stuck in 2001 or something

>>61071851
If you think 100hz-ish braaping is bass I have to disappoint you.

>>61071851
>dubstep
You stuck in 2010 or something? Plus only the old(read - not popular) dubstep had prominent sub lines.

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>>61071904
have a screenshot from a fucking ariana grande/max martin song

>>61071917
tell me how it didn't have a huge influence on the pop music of the last 6 years

>>61070134
there is a huge difference between $5 headphones and $150 or even $75 headphones
if you don't hear it, please go to a doctor and do a hearing test

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>>61041970
b.. b.but you can't expect it to sound better right away. It needs a certain.. ehhhm.. "burn-in period".. yeah! ..where all the electrons settle and adapt to the microscopic interferences in your specific environment and stuff..

It takes about two weeks, which ensures you've totally forgot about how equal your last system sounded.. I mean.. You're sure to hear the difference then! ..or can't you even hear those o..obvious differences, anon? a..are you some kind of p..pleb or something?

>>61072136
^ this. Plus the source does also matter. Shitty mp3's / a low bitrate sound card can't be fixed by good cans.

>>61041970
>don't do research and purchase a bad product
really good post

>>61072136
Not all $150 headphones are worth $150 tho. Even the form-factor of headphones matters, IEMs scale fairly good with the price but for cans I wouldn't even try anything cheaper than oppo pm3.

>>61073074
>unironically being the guy from this greentext >>61071475

>>61073100
Headphones top out quickly, most shit above $1000 is actually worse in quality. Absurdly, audiophiles don't care about quality, they pick equipment with the sound signature they prefer more + placebo obviously.

>>61064309
Not worth it. Not because the thinkpad bad onboard audio but because the whole setup i shit. This is the meme of /g/. Sure it sounds better than its garbage price tag will suggest but you can do so much better for few extra $. Get behringer studio 50USB. They cost 130-150$. All on one studio monitors with build in dac. Micca MB42X cost 90-100$. Lepai LP-2020A+ cost 30. Cables some decent dac if onboard is really that bad and you have like 140 for garbage bin setup cost almost the same. And you have many points you can mess up - shitty lepai clone (there are lepai clones), bad power supply (t-amps are very sensitive to bad power bricks), bad onboard audio.
With all on one monitors anythin that go from your laptop to speakers are usb cable. Sure they don't sound as good as same size yamaha monitors but the price is lower and you can't mess up.

>>61052812
>extra thicc cables
>terminate in unshielded banana plugs

Really makes me think

>>61073186
That definitely sounds like a much better, foolproof option, I'll look into it.

>>61073514
>people still don't know this was satire

>>61046927
>you don't even need a product to sell, only the promise of it.

You are right. It is a good time to make shitty unfinished software and market the hell out of it.

Get in while going is good boys and profit. I am sure at some point they'll be more securities laws around this pre-release alpha crap.

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>>61041787

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>Look through thread
>People complain about tinnitus
>mfw visual snow and /tinnitus only/ niggers will never reach my level of despair

>>61041907
>not crossing your data and power at exact 90 degree angles

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>>61041787
Does he watercool the amplifier or something trough those thick blue cables?

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>>61067022
Is it possible to grind off the edges of an mp3 file, resell/refund the mp3 as never used, then assemble the filings to a fully functional mp3 for free?