Net Neutrality, what are we going to do about it?

Absolutely nothing huuu

Whine and do nothing

This is only a thing in America so basically not relevant

>>61036137
Call, fax, write, or just yell at your representatives. Otherwise sit back and watch Comcast & friends fuck up your shit.

Where do you guys live that you don't worry about this?

>>61036213
reality

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>>61036137
behead lobbyists

What do you mean "reality"? Is this not a worry for you?

>>61036244
They are blind anon
They will see when it is too late

>>61036273
Right after Russia nukes us

>>61036137
friendly reminder net neutrality is not what you think it is.

At least Americans have a very weird definition of net neutrality.

Alright? What is net neutrality?

>>61036292
plz explain

>>61036137
>what are we going to do about the newest jewish trick?

been asking that question for millenia

>>61036296
>What is net neutrality?

From a technical perspective, it's making decisions (such as pricing, routing, etc.) based on the amount of traffic only, without regard to its application-layer payload. (I.e. only taking into consideration network-layer info, like TCP or UDP headers.)

Normally, businesses wouldn't give a shit about the technical details. But big companies realized that they could shut out small competitors by setting up a system that discriminates against packets based on what's inside the application-layer payload. That kind of discrimination has no technical merit -- its only purpose is for shutting down competition.

So as a practical matter, net neutrality has the effect of allowing small upstart companies to compete directly against large companies. Put another way: it allows innovation without permission.

At that point, it becomes a political issue. Certain political groups favor the idea of requiring permission from large corporations before allowing innovation that upsets their business models -- so those political groups are against net neutrality. Other political groups favor allowing small companies to innovate without getting permission from big companies -- so those groups are in favor of net neutrality.

>>61036466
Discriminatory behavior is already regulated

Make posts on FCC's forums. Though they have already received millions so I doubt a few more will tell them shit they haven't already seen or heard.

I don't quite understand the little nuances of how this will affect business, internet speeds, and the economy in general, and I'm honestly usually pretty republican when it comes to the Government regulating trade and similar things. But when it comes to the internet I think they need to more. The Oligopoly market that are ISPs have already slowed us down significantly when it comes to internet speeds. It's absolutely ridiculous how most of the modern world has us beat in internet speeds because companies like Comcast and AT&T collude with each other to restrict the consumer.

Hell in Nashville TN, where Google had fiber infrastructure plans in place, Comcast sued Google and now this lawsuit has stalled them even more. I fucking hate having only one fucking ISP to choose from where I live, and now that we were finally getting fiber internet they decided to fuck that up as well.

Hell maybe I don't know what the hell I'm talking about, but from everything I've read in laymen's terms I hope they don't repeal shit.

>>61036680
>because companies like Comcast and AT&T collude with each other to restrict the consumer.
no, federal state and local governments work with companies to restrict the free market choices of individuals

its not that the us government is failing to support competition, but that they are actively killing it

>>61036616
plz explain how this works - i do not believe that these rules are effective.

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Hi, my name is Aijit Pai. I've been shitting all over the internet and using the FCC to empower big corporations for five months now. I wouldn't be able to do this if you didn't vote for Donald Drumpf. Thank you, #MAGA.

>>61036448
>Implying (((net neutrality))) isn't more judaism
>Implying anyone who supports (((net neutrality))) isn't a redditor who wants (((net neutrality))) for his degenerate cuck porn streaming

>>61036914
>>/pol/
get back to your containment board

>>61036914
George Soros here. As soon as Net Neutrality is repealed, I'm going to pay all the major ISPs to throttle all porn sites, except for mine, which exclusively plays Jewish supremacist cuck porn (where the goy has to put on a chastity cage and watch his Jewish master fuck his gf).

>>61036864
How are you being wronged currently?

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>>61037007
>repealing something that was never implemented

>>61036137
kill the jews.

the government jews want their money now that neets arent spending as much.

>>61036958
>>61037007
Based trump going to end NN and all you cucks can do about it is prep the bull. Go on cuck, prep the bull so he can fuck your gf like the little libcuck bitch you are.

>>61037051
The Holocaust cost about $27 billion. Where are you NEETs going to find that kind of money to kill us all this time around?

>>61037039
Title II rules are currently preventing my ISP from throttling my connection to this gay anime tea leaf enthusiast website. that's good.

the FCC wants to remove Title II rules, giving my ISP the legal right to throttle whatever they want. that's bad.

>>61036137
Honestly? Wish we had it back while we pay 50 extra dollars a month to the ISP in order to browse 4chan with enough bandwidth to load images.

>>61037108
Incorrect. Nobody will be able to throttle anyone at all

>>61036776
I never said they didn't, but you'd be stupid to think Oligopolies don't have collusion amidst their ranks. Both ISPs and Cellular Carriers are especially guilty of this. Wasn't it just a few years back that AT&T wanted to buy T-Mobile, and the federal government prevented that from happening because T-Mobile was essentially the only Cellular provider that was keeping the big 3 in check?

>>61037204
can you provide specific reasons why that's the case? i'm genuinely interested.

>>61036213
>>61036244
>>61036680
Redditor literally so new he can't quote posts, jesus fuck

>>61036958
This is a politics thread you dumb shill, are you admitting you only have a problem with politics you disagree with?

What's the deal with Comcast running ads saying they won't fuck with anything. Are they flat out lying completely?

>>61037293
>new
The thread only has 35 posts you fuck. I thought anyone with a brain would see that my posts was obviously directed at OP's "what are we going to do about it" but whatever. Just another tripfag to filter

>>61037050

Competition that used to exist had it effectively implemented. Said competition no longer exists in large part because telecoms wrote laws in about half of all states that effectively criminalize telecom competition.

>>61037293
I know how to quote I just don't care.

>>61037345
>>61037415
t. plebbitor on damage control

>>61037293
>>This is a politics thread you dumb shill, are you admitting you only have a problem with politics you disagree with?
naw man, it's just really lame when discourse devolves to "hurr cuck durr muh degeneracy." there are real issues at hand here, dumbing down the debate is helping no one.

/pol/ has been good at keeping those people in their own board for a while, but that shit is leaking out and it sucks.

Guys, be honest with me. Should I be worried about this?

>>61036137
>that image
You have it backwards, ISPs are gonna use this to get large payouts from even larger corporations who'll use their money to keep competitors from rising up to challenge their service-space.

You, the end-user, are completely meaningless in this equation. Nothing on your end will change much, if at all.

>>61037082
Oy vey remember the $27 billion

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>>61036680
>It's absolutely ridiculous how most of the modern world has us beat in internet speeds

Not exactly as much as you think it is. And the reason it's probably even this low is because many people choose to get the lowest speed tier packages because they don't need a 50 or 100mbps connection.

>>61037652
Just mostly fear mongering. People have been claiming this scenario would happen for probably almost a decade now. ISPs don't really give a shit about any websites except the top data hogging content providers like netflix, google, etc that they have direct peering links with anyway.

>>61037781
>will use their money to keep competitors from rising up to challenge their service-space.
>Nothing on your end will change much, if at all
nigerian, how can both of these things be possible at once? if megacorp (tm) is able to block competition in a new way, then the consumer will of course be impacted. i'd much rather be able to pay netflix their $10 or whatever than have no option but to give comcast the same amount for their shitty knockoff version of netflix.

>>61036213
Switzerland,Iceland,Greenland or Japan

>>61037204
Dude they throttle people already, it's in the EULA when you subscribe for service, since it's disclosed they're legally allowed to rate and diminish your whole service on a set of arbitrary rules. What they cannot do is make a tiered subscription service which provides access to certain realms of the internet while making poorly or totally inaccessible other realms, i.e. you have access to Amazon and Google, but we will not allow you good access to 4chan and Netflix, but you can use our proprietary streaming service and Reddit.

>>61037333
They're a HUGE CORPORATION they might snake around the issues but they will leverage every means they can to increase their profits and margins for the sake of the shareholders and the board of directors. That means they will change their service plans to accommodate their goals, there is no doubt or question that anyone should ever have in their mind about this, or any other network provider.

>>61037915
Faster connections are mostly for business users and the infrastructure doesn't exist in residential or rural areas, as such it is not an option, though it is often listed as one.

This will improve the internet by removing Americans too poor or stupid to get around the blocks. The only way it could be better is if you couldn't bypass it with money since you can be stupid while also having money to burn (4chan pass users).

>>61038664
I hope you realize you'd fall under the group being held back by said blocks.

>>61037060
Great understanding of politics and economics you seem to have there anon.

>>61037915
The real reason is that while the world was deploying fiber slowly, US ISPs where sitting on 1980s telecom act and doing jack shit.
While I have no particular love for big state as a solution to everything, regulations for what is effectively a utility seems to work best.

It's like single payer healthcare, you have to be seriously dogmatic about your antistatism to not consider the solution that has objectively worked better elsewhere.

>This thread again
Nothing reddit has told you is accurate
We've never had net neutrality
Stop whining

>>61038854

How does it taste, anon? The cocks of AT&T, Comcast, Chartet, and Verizon CEOs that is.

>>61036173
SAY IT AGAIN

WAAAGH.

>>61036213
Europe

Isn't all this is that comms are moving from copper to fiber so VoIP and emergency services get QoS priority? Anything else is scare tactics.

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>>61036680
>wanting google fiber

Nigger, AT&T just dropped gig fiber in my area 30 miles outside the city for 80$ a month.

>>61036137
the free market will sort this out

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>>61036137
Just ask yourself why everyone uses google,facebook,youtube etc? The internet wasn't designed for a few entities to monopolize everything. We centralized the internet. We should face the consequences of our actions.

>>61036196
Notably absent is any modern form of communication. So many don't even use technology themselves, just let their interns handle it so they can handle their whores.

>>61036466
Or the libertarian idea that doing nothing is best and the problem will magically fix itself with "innovation".

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China doesn't need to do anything, yankees fucks themselfs up anyways.
>tfw you live at Europe

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>>61036914
Nice try, lefty shill. We all know who owns the major telecom and multinational media corporations. And we all know whose websites are going to get throttled to 900 baud when this is all over. Don't be so gullible. If it's in (((their))) interests, you can safely assume it ain't in ours.

>>61038912
like your mom's asshole

>>61036137

literally nothing is wrong with it

>>61036292
>At least Americans have a very weird definition of net neutrality.
Never underestimate the power of marketing. You can convince people a pile of shit smells like roses with enough effort.

>>61042809
>We all know who owns the major telecom and multinational media corporations
>implying they don't own the silicon giants as well
The new fights the old for market power. Welcome to "internet activism".

>>61038835
>While I have no particular love for big state as a solution to everything, regulations for what is effectively a utility seems to work best.
>he thinks the "big state solution" didn't cause the problem in the first place
>he thinks "big state solution" won't cause more of the same

>>61036137
Tor

>>61036914
Go back to /pol/ you autist

>>61038912
How does the cock of the federal government taste?

>>61047589
Like tendies.

>>61036137
Hope Johnny Depp wasn't kidding.

>>61047833
kys faggot

>>61036776
this. things are the way they are because of cuck liberal cities begging for monopolist dick and overreaching federal policies

>>61036137
>waaaaa politicians voted for capitalism and not extra gubment regulation
>I'm a wittle babby who needs congress to protect me
Yall a bunch of pussy white bois

>>61041073
>the libertarian idea that doing nothing is best

Well, if that's true, then your "libertarian idea" is compatible with net neutrality. That's because net neutrality was the original and current model, and will remain in effect until it's dismantled by politicians. Thus, "doing nothing" is basically keeping net neutrality.

And that kind of makes sense that the libertarian idea would be compatible with net neutrality. Net neutrality is generally advocated by those who do not think that small companies should need to get permission from large powerful corporations in order to innovate and compete against them -- and those ideals of "freedom to innovate" and "freedom to compete" seem (to me) to be consistent with libertarian thought.

I would be interested to hear from any "libertarians" who believe that libertarianism is actually more compatible with dismantling net neutrality -- thus allowing the large corporations to freely place obstacles against any small competitor who is trying to innovate and disrupt their business model.

>>61048281
the person you're replying to is mocking libertarianism not supporting it you dum dum

>>61048281
are you fucking retarded

>>61037060
>>>/reddit/
holy fuck what you just typed in basically r_td incarnate now please fuck off

>>61036137
net neutrality sounds good on paper but, in practice it's just so much smoke and mirrors to distract you from the fact that it's nothing more than protectionism for the status quo