/pcbg/ - PC Building General

Anyone telling you to get the 7700k outside of 144hz gaming builds is most likely very retarded

How will the threadripper do for gaming? Most likely the same as the 1800x right?

>>61028060
and anyone telling you to cap your fps at 60 for the ryzen is retarded

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First for fuck off with your 7700k shilling

>>61028064
Threadripper isn't for gaming just like Quandro isn't for gaming

>>61028064
Lower, they'll most likely be lower clocked. But the difference in FPS between the 1700 and 1800x isn't that big so you should expect slightly better performances than the 1700

REAL THREAD
>>61028073
>>61028073
>>61028073

hide and sage this shitpost thread

>>61028096
>ryzen performs worse
>somehow this means intel is btfo
???

>getting a 7700k
>when threadripper AND i9 are around the corner
morons
the lot of you

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Whats a good cpu to get for this build

>>61028129
7820x hands down

>>61028119
The 7700k is at 5GHz and delidded. It's also more expensive and need both a better cooler and motherboard. That's not a win by any way.

alright faggots
I want a retro gaming PC build, to run XP, with the oldest new parts I can get. Thinking an AM2 or LGA 775 build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dKtV9W
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HnDpkT

??

REAL THREAD

>>61028073
>>61028073
>>61028073

>>61028117
what the fuck are you on about you idiot? it's the same OP

for dual monitors, do you turn off one when gaming/watching shows? my autism loses immersion if i have a 4chan thread tab open right when im gaming

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>>61028146
Well then delid your rayzen and OC it to 5gHz too

oh wait

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>>61028173
nice samefag

>>61028212
second monitor will lower fps so yes

What kind of cpu should i get for a home office pc

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>>61028221
>deliding is good

As if that other retard with his pcpartpicker's own account link wasn't already annoying by hijacking the OP, now we got a second retard that shits up the thread even though it has the same OP as the one he wants to create
I was hesitant to go see the mods about the first retard but i guess i'll have to go on the IRC to get this one retard banned

>>61028226
Answer the question, it's the same OP

>>61028245
it is.
It's in the spirit of PC building
>customize ur shit
>get the best perf possible

>>61028294
>customize ur shit
>not build your own shit
wow what a fucking pleb

>>61028249
>im going to go to the IRC and tell the mods that amd is bullying me
commit sudoku

>>61028221
People have delidded Ryzen. Delidding it doesn't provide much better cooling. It's good for maybe 1 degree celsius and .1 Ghz more of an overclock.
Not worth it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wz_-Q5QzRqg

You're not hitting 5+ GHz on Ryzen without liquid nitrogen cooling (which reminds me, the Ryzen 5 1600 set 6 core overclocking records on Liquid nitrogen at 5.9 Ghz

>>61028330
lurk more

>Thread wars all because some autist doesn't like the OP
Jesus fucking christ.

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>>61028337
>newfag calling others new

II CORELET LINE II
CORELETS WITH LESS THAN 6 CORES CAN NOT POST BELOW THIS POST

>>61028366
1 intel core=2 aymd cores so I can post

Death to Jew miners and their ilk

X E O N S
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>>61028391
to the gulag with you

>>61028434
Why would I bother with Xeon? Xeon recently got their ass handed to them in an Epyc, knockdown, drag-out fight.

>>61028366
>tfw have Ryzen 5 1600 in box
>cant put build together until mining boom crashes and prices return to normal
>tfw stuck using an Intel 4 core laptop in the meantime

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>>61028519

>>61028549
Cause Ryzen doesn't have a iGPU and he has no GPU? That seem really clear

>>61028549
because GPU prices are insane and Ryzen doesn't have an iGPU

>>61028519
ill sell you my fury and/or rx470 for a fair price.

>>61028582
You can buy some second hand GPU like 560ti for 20 bucks for the time being

>>61028607
not in my area. computer parts wasteland here on the east coast
>>61028595
what would you consider fair? The 470 is essentially a slightly worse version of the RX570 I want.

>>61028628
i got the 470 for 150 new. ill take 120 for it. asus strix 4gb. all i use it for is 4k60 video playback.

>>61028567
>>61028582
Oh boo hoo i have to spend 20$ more on the gpu mommy i will instead keep the rest of my components sitting for months having thereby wasted tons of money because I've already paid but can't use them for whoknows how long and by the time I will be able to their market value will be 30-40% lower
t.retard

>>61028628
wait untill the mining crysis goes away. either AMD re-stocks or Vega comes out. Also there were rummors of a Radeon card made specificlly for Cryptocurrency mining. which will potentially draw all attention away from consumer cards.

I have a RX570 Nitro + and it's worth every penny (at $215)

>>61028692
The retard is the moron that didn't figure out why he wasn't using his Ryzen. Don't get butthurt that we pointed it out moron.

>>61028670
Very tempting. Lemme think about it

>>61028692
>Oh boo hoo i have to spend 20$ more on the gpu
>$20
I fucking wish. Go on Newegg. Cards similar to what I want are now going for over $600.
Fucking miners.

Best CPU for taking back the crypto currency market from the jews?

>>61028725
Intel. Make sure it's the most expensive version. Jews gotta eat too.

How are you supposed to fit the CPU power pins on a Z270E? They've literally placed them at the most unreachable point on the entire board. Only way to insert them is with tiny hands or remove the fucking CPU cooler

>>61028739
No they don't.

They survived on old, moldy rations in Auschwitz.

Jews don't need to eat. Jews aren't human.

>>61028721
No spastic, I knew exactly why he wasn't already, but wanted to point out his retardation for all to see.

>>61028694
>Also there were rummors of a Radeon card made specificlly for Cryptocurrency mining
That is stupid. Mainly cause that opens you to wasting money instead of getting ASIC. And PoS > PoW and coins are trying to move away from PoW.

Im currently using an i5 6500
Should I switch to ryzen?

>>61028775
Sadly all you did was point out your own retardation.

>>61028775
>wanted to point out his retardation for all to see.
see:
>>61028722
Prices on Polaris cards currently are insane.

>>61028787
Oops forgot;
I mostly do gaming, streaming, video editing and 3d design (solidworks)

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>>61028787
>legitimately wondering if a good idea is a good idea

>>61028787
No. Are you getting bottlenecked by your CPU? I doubt so.

>>61028787
Not worth it at the moment. Wait another year or so.
>>61028820
In that case, it MIGHT be worth it. For average people on something that new, it isn't worth it, but considering your use, totally worth it.

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i want to GPU passthrough (arch + wangblows)
my build currently has a i5-7600K, so i can use the iGPU for linux
should i keep it that way, or is getting ryzen + some crappy GPU cheaper?

oh look i fixed ur problem by 30 seconds websearch http://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/accessories/apd/a9083544?c=us&l=en&s=bsd&cs=04&sku=A9083544

Can someone make me a budget build for $400 that has a GTX 1060.

The 6GB model please.

>>61028853
not possible.

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>>61028815
yea mommi i absolutely need a 580 waaaaaaaaa haaaaaaaa i cant get any other gpu i promise im not autistic

it seems like no one on this general knows what is best and just makes statements based on opinions

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hRDpkT

thoughts?

What the fuck happened that made all the GTX 1060s dissapear from my country's biggest shops?

>>61028877
What is the best is dependent on what you need.

>>61028853
youd need at least $700 for a 1060 build

>>61028894
I have made a functioning and pretty good 1060 build that came out to $589

Try again

>>61028870
It's not just AMD cars that are affected. nvidia cards are also being affected. Everything short of a 1080 has a price hike and limited supply

>>61028886
Since AyyyMD is out of stock. Nvidia is the only option, so people desperate to hop on the mining craze buy Nvidia and everyone else buys Nvidia. Especially since Ryzen has no iGPU forcing everyone to buy a card with their new build

>>61028894
bitch, this guy >>61028885 has a 1070 and doesn't even reach $600

>>61028894
150$ for a 2500k+mobo+8gb ram
270$ for 1060 6gb
Hopefully he got psu,ssd and case already

>>61028885
Get a PNY ssd and a better psu. If you don't want to wait for the mining craze to end, get a rx560 or 1050ti.

>>61028938
Cause if you actually bother to fucking look at that list, the 1070 has no price. Because it is out of stock. So it is 600 + the price of 1070.

>>61028910
Yea but you can find 1060s and 1070s with a 20$ price hike so again, just autism and utter retardation

Buying hundreds of $ worth of components @ t1 and letting them rot till t2 is a massive financial loss

Might as well return them

>>61028885
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tjwGgL
The 1070 you chose was missing a price.

Here, if you want to stay within reasonable budget: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/frTd2R

Here is if you are on super-budget:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/gBwGgL

>>61028981
>buying nvidia
Enjoy a card that struggles to work within 2 years.

>>61029020
enjoy no GPU alternatively I guess?

I'm making a build using a Define Nano S case, but I really need help with the following:

What motherboard should I get?
Someone mentioned in the comments that the Z270i is not a good combination with the Define Nano S case. https://es.pcpartpicker.com/product/mpM323/asus-rog-strix-z270i-gaming-mini-itx-lga1151-motherboard-strix-z270i-gaming
The alternative is supposedly getting a Asustek Z170i.
I don't understand the problem with the z270i and don't know if I'll be missing or bottleknecking something with the z170i.

What power supply is flat and small enough for the Define Nano S to have enough space for a Asus Rog Strix 1080ti to breathe?
Video related: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiDZNT7mxLQ

And finally; What cooler should I get?
As you can probably tell by now I'm completely lost and in need of your guidance anons. I don't know if watercooling fans need a lot of maintenance or switching out the fluids every X time and like the video above states, maybe a blower fan would be better.

Please help me kind anons, I feel like my dream build is right around the corner.

>>61028820
maybe if you can seel that i5 with the mobo for a decent price, jump to Ryzen (and get the R7 1700)

>>61029071
Start from the begining. post the pcpartpicker and we will move ahead from there.

i made a super budgeted build and while making it i followed what i have seen you guys lay down

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nzBsQV

this good?

>>61029179
It's as good as you are going to get on as steep a budget you have.

I congratulate you on not going for a crappy AMD jew-CPU.

You also have a red theme going in this, I like how even on a budget you got a color theme.

The parts you chose are pretty good. (For a shitty budget build)

Go ahead and build it, anon.

Don't forget a wireless adapter. (Unless you have ethernet.)

>>61029071
>>61029167
Here it is: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jY4RxY
My fate is in your hands!

>>61028840
>zrzut ekranu
:)
>unlocked cpu
>locked motherboard
this build looks all over the place. You can save some money on cpu or if it doesn't matter just go 7700k and some z270 motherboard.

>>61029249
>>61029167
>>61029071
Crap, that's the wrong case.
Here's the actual case: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/cLCWLD
Not a big difference anyways.

>>61029249
You did that all wrong, the price doubled because I had to fix every one of your mistakes, you should try making a new list with not as-good parts if you can't afford this list:
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mDr2wV

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I fucked up a motherboard 1151 again

why is it that when parts are compatible, the list still isn't good enough because "brands" or "it doesn't match"

>>61029474
it's not fucking lego

rate my build
>Ryzen 1700x
>Gigabyte GA-AB350-Gaming 3
>ASUS ROG GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
>G.SKILL Ripjaws V Series 32GB DDR4 2400
>Corsair h100i v2
>WD Black 512GB Performance SSD - 8 Gb/s M.2 2280 PCIe NVMe SSD
>Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
>WD Blue 1TB Desktop HDD
>Corsair RM850x PSU

>6700k reaches 75-80c when running games

is speccy shit or did i somehow badly fuck something up or get a faulty cpu

Im going to switch to ryzen 7, Can I overclock an 1700x well with a b350 or do i have to get an x370?
I have a cm 240 pro already so cooling isnt a problem.

>>61029510
u need to delid it bro

>>61029552
b350 vs x370 offers no significant difference in OC potential afaik

when exactly is the time to buy?

Some guy is selling his week old 1700 for 240€ shipped is it a good buy

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How's the sapphire rx580 4gb for 270 euro dollars boys, y/n? out of stock obviously but I'll just wait longer
using it alongside r5 1600 cpu for gaymen in 1080p @ 60hz, though I'm thinking of moving up to 144hz

>>61029651
When amd and nvidia include anti-minning technology in their gpus, or at least make different series just for mining. Until then with every new released series you'll have about 30mins window to buy them at reasonable prices.

>>61029432
I don't understand.
I don't need a different case or a 2tb ssd or any storage for that matter.

All I need is help choosing a motherboard, cpu cooler (compatible with the specified case+recommended motherboard) and a small enough power supply.
>>61029071

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>>61029729
is that so?

>>61029731
That case you had didn't support the CPU Cooler, WHICH YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE YOUR CPU DOESN'T FRY.

The 2TB SSD is good to have so you can STORE STUFF ON. AND IT'LL WRITE INFORMATION AND LOAD IT 2X FASTER THAN AN HDD.

THE 120GB SSD IS A PLACE TO STORE THE OS AND BACKUPS.

GOD, you know literally NOTHING.

Well, that's why you are here.
To learn.

>>61029731
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/mDr2wV
he's trolling you bro

2tb 700$ sdd lmao

>>61029751
Isn't founders edition like the shittiest and the loudest 1080ti? Also Just wait for eth to reach btc tier prices and you will see even high end gpus out of stocks.

>>61029813
if you know eth will rise as much why dont you buy thousands and get rich?

>>61029844
Implying I didn't. That's exactly my plan m80.

>>61029759
>>61029804
He might be projecting his hatred towards me for getting a 7700k instead of a ryzen.
Nothing against people who get ryzens, lots of drama about that in these threads.

Here's an example of a build with the same case:
https://pcpartpicker.com/b/YZw6Mp

Could someone please help me with this >>61029071

>>61029873
No.

A Ryzen CPU would fry too without a cooler.

You need a cooler.

CPUs have terrible cooling systems.

The newest Ryzen's cooler is worse than the i7-7700k's.

>>61029906
What are you talking about?
>>61029071
>And finally; What cooler should I get?

Can someone post that lost of god tier to trash tier mice.

Need a new cheap mouse which has programmable buttons for muh gaymen for preferably £30 (~$40/45) or less.

>>61029945
wrong thread asshole

>>61029906
works for me bro

>>61029966
Peripherals aren't part of pc building?

>>61029988
Your CPU is gonna die in 3 months.

Watch.

Can you guys assist me? Would like a $600ish build without gpu and psu. Got a 1070 already

does the m.2 slot work like a regular harddrive? any downsides?

can someone explain this

>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; Get a 1600x if you don't OC

Isn't the 1600x the one WITHOUT the fan ? like the K series in intel?

>>61030146
>Ryzen 5 1600
>B350 mATX
>cheapest pair of 16GB DDR4-2666
>240GB SSD
>$40 mATX case

>>61030191
yea but it's factory overclocked

>>61030191
The only real difference between the 1600 and 1600X, besides the fact the 1600X lacks a cooler, is that the X version is clocked higher and has a higher TDP

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Hello guys, i got a black screen on bootup with my rog maxiumus VII formula motherboard after i tried to use the overclocking option that can be found in the bios. The issue is that i had a message coming up about the overclock failed and that i should go into bios and turn back the settings. I went into the bios, clicked the reset bios option and restart option but it seemed to try and overclock again, but this time with a black screen.

This is what i have tried :

i have tried to take out the power cable and press the switch on the PSU, to then hold the power button down for 30 seconds.

I have tried to hold down the CMOS button found back on my computer, as the battery itself is hidden behind some shitty armor. ( taking everything apart to get the armor off is probably the last thing i'm trying before i give up)

I have tried to download the latest firmware onto a usb stick, to flash the motherboard. but the button that you are supposed to press for 5 seconds on the back on the motherboard while the stick is inside only blinked for a few seconds and then it just stayed green.


If we look inside the computer the led got the error code 99 which means Super IO Initialization . I'm not 100 % sure about the meaning of this error, but i believe that we are inside the bios with a blackscreen as my mouse and keyboard lights are on.

There is also a red light on the middle right side of the motherboard that i believe is the cpu led. (picture related)


Please help me out anons.

>>61030224
>>61030203

but then I need to get the cooler with the 1600x right?

>>61030273
Yes, 1600x is basically for brainlets who are willing to spend more, for overclocked 1600. I'm also running 1600 with base cooler at 3.8ghz and at 100% load it reaches 80C.

>>61030261
>hold down the CMOS button
what the fuck, no CMOS switch?

I've got the Asus strip Z270E Gaming, and I get no signal once I power it up..

Is this because the BIOS needs to be updated? And how do I identify it? I've already looked at this list and it seems like my board isn't on there(even though it's linked on the top from the Z270E support page): https://www.asus.com/us/support/FAQ/1031846/

Any help appreciated!

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€1500 budget, Ireland, video games, starting out 1080p but hope to get 4k monitor in long run for movies and games.

what CPU and GPU do I pick? Has AMD Zen been worth the wait? I was looking at one of the new AMD cpus can't remember which model couple months back thinking of getting AMD-only pc.

>>61030319
I'm not sure if there is one. I didn't think there was. I need to look it up. I'm not really familiar with the switch.

I finished building my Ryzen build. Mobo is Gigabyte AB350 Gaming 3 (mATX ver.), current BIOS is F3.

Should I even bother updating it? Will it improve my performances outside of the RAM factor? I keep reading how people are still having tons of problems... I don't want to risk bricking it or having to deal with CMOS or other shits, I can live just having 2133 until they sort their shits together. Please help.

>>61030309
how the fuck did you get it to hit 100% load?

>>61030450
update the Bios. I wouldn't worry about bricking it. Gigabyte has a dual uefi setup, so if you do something that would brick any other board, it still has a second bios/uefi you can use.

>>61030451
Are you real? Stress test it.

Why are there almost no x370 mobos that have Dolby 7.1? They usually have 5.1+S/PDIF. I don't really care since I don't have a surround sound set up, but it's something weird I've noticed. 7.1 is very common on Z170 and Z270.

looking at building a pc with top of the line parts from 10-12 years ago, volt modding as mcuh as possible and turning it into dedicated wc3 machine. advice?

>>61030524
because AMD users tend to not be able to afford a 7.1 system, so mobo manufacturers don't even bother

>>61028120
Threadripper won't perform any better than vanilla Ryzen in games, and x299 is way to expensive for just games as well. The 7740k is a joke, no one's going to pay for a $300 mobo just for a slightly better overclock.

>>61030547
It might have much better thermals and power usage
It could OC to 4.5ghz or higher

>>61029906
7700ks dont come with a cooler so yea...

AMDs stock coolers are some of the best ever offered on OEM

Intel shills are retarded

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>>61028119
then you woke up

>>61030581
I hate Intel.

They have gone batshit with the i9 series.

No, but the non-OEM Ryzen coolers are shit.

Better than intel.

But shit.

>>61030339
UPDATE: I tried with one RAM-stick in the first slot and the LED turned green, still no signal.. Atleast it powered down immediately as I pressed the button.

Does anyone have a clue? Getting desperate...

>>61030383
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/yM3fZ8
haven't thought of many builds at that price point but this should suit you.
it should be mentioned AMD are releasing their Vega cards which are targeted at the high end soon™ so if you feel like waiting™ you can do that.

Can someone post a cheap MOBO that works with the Pentium G4560.

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>>61030524
Actually looking closer somethis is weird with the Ryzen chipset's audio. Some motherboards say they support 8 channel 7.1, but they clearly don't have enough ports. A typical sound I/O has 6 ports, center/sub, rear, side, front/line out, line in and mic in. Ryzen only has 5 ports, c/sub, rear, front/line out, line in and mic in. Plus the S/PDIF which is digital, not analog like the rest. So what's going on here? Are they counting the headphone jack as the 7th/8th channel or something retarded?

>>61030711
ASRock H110M-DVS R3.0

>>61030721
How about one that actually has a price listing on PCPartPicker?

>>61030677
Have you even looked into the stock AMD coolers?

3.9ghz OC is fine on the stock cooler
If you buy an AMD you dont need an expensince cooler to cool it the stock one is fine. This is one of the reasons the 7700k is a shit option compared to a ryzen setup

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzIIIoSveU0

>>61030736
i already gave you enough hints on what to look for in a mobo. look on ur own if you arent happy with what youre spoonfed.

>>61030743
Oh, okay.

PCPartPicker told me they were shit, so, thanks for clearing that up.

>>61030746
Yeah, the compatibility issue with the CPU and MOBO is the chipset.

The chipset on the MOBO you posted that works doesn't work with the Pentium when used on other MOBOs.

I checked.

As MC Ride once said:
"Tie the cord, kick the chair and you're dead."

If you can't figure out what I mean, I already gave you enough hints.

>>61030743
>tfw can't even reach 3.9ghz
I always get fucked by rng.

>>61030580
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813145002&cm_re=gigabyte_ga-ab350m_gaming_3-_-13-145-002-_-Product
It has a dual bios

http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AB350M-Gaming-3-rev-10#kf
Even the official product page confirms it.

>>61030775
no, it's not. R3.0 motherboards are made to be compatible with KabyLake processors. I suppose i should spell it out: look either for a B250 or H110 R3.0 board

>>61030854
I already found a motherboard.

You are 10 minutes too late bro.

time to rack up 2670 xeons and meme with 256gbs of ram

>all this trouble just to play a video game

I'm glad I bought a PS4

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>>61030947

>>61029945
nobody?

>>61030721
You sure the mobo has an updated BIOS?

>>61030711
Check here
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

>>61030692
Needs aftermarket cooler if he's going to OC and a cheaper graphics card for now. He can get something better when he actually gets a 4K TV

>>61030533
Why? Just make a tiny G4560 machine. No graphics card needed

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Redpill me on the best CPU cooler for the AM4

>>61030989
>Needs aftermarket cooler if he's going to OC
No he doesn't. Why are you lying?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yV2qM8

how did I do?

>>61030970
https://www.amazon.com/Professional-Customized-Precision-XSOUL-XM6/dp/B01JZ83WXY/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498160316&sr=8-1&keywords=rgb+mouse+programmable

>>61030947
>Doing legos is so much trouble!

You know, some of us actually have fun while building PCs, an many others do much more than just game on their PCs

>>61031016
the stock one.

>>61031020
drop the 212EVO, that CPU does not generate that much heat, and it's not possible to OC. so no need for that.
get a beefier PSU, at least 500W, they are very cheap aswell and you have much more headroom for a new GPU upgrade or something down the line.

I have no idea where are you getting that 460 from, but if you don't actually manage to find it, go with the 1050-1050ti.

>>61031060
>the stock one.
I have the stock one, it's a piece of shit screams like a jet engine. I have a 212 Evo from my old build that was much quieter but don't have an AM4 bracket.

>>61031020
>$130 for a 460
>not even a 560

even then the 560 is pretty shite. hardware unboxed released a video yesterday for the 4gb 560 vs the 2gb 1050 and the 1050 was slightly better for much cheaper and much more power efficient (no external power).

if you really want a 4gb card then you can pick up a 1050 ti for that exact same price as that 460 and it's going to be ~15/20% faster on average.

>>61031086
>It's a piece of shit
>Screams like a jet engine
why are you lying anon?
lierally another anon posted this like 15 posts above.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LzIIIoSveU0

I have it on my R7 1700 and it's whisper quiet and very cool at 3.6, but could push t to 3.7-3.8 if I needed to.

>>61031086
The 212 evo is AS efficient as the Wraith Spire cooler, so yea, the stock oneis just as good. If you want a better cooler, sell your 212 evo and buy something better.

I wanna build my own pfsense router
Any recommendations on parts?

>https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811352060&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
Going to use this case with a 550W bronze power supply I already own

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>>61031120
>>61031125
Not him but

>>61031060
The 460 is on NewEgg.

Gotta love NewEgg.

Trust me, I won't be upgrading.

This is a build for my friend. I know he won't want to upgrade because he mainly plays PS4.

He only wants this for Counter-Strike.

Plus, I want to make sure he doesn't completely abandon PC gaming if his CPU dies, so I am eliminating that possibility most of the way by having the cooler.

Thanks for the feedback though.

Anything else you would like to comment on?
I would love to hear it.

Do you suggest giving him a 470?

Is the 460 good?

>>61031147
The 1400 comes with the Wraith Stealth, not the Wraith Spire. Quit lying anon.

>>61031120
That tiny fan is loud as fuck, that's the nature of small fans because they have to spin faster to get the same performance as bigger fans. The cooling is decent on the wraith spire but I want a proper cooler with bigger fans.

>>61031116
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YsvLgL

Literally 20-something dollars more.

I know it performs better though.

I'll go with it.

>>61031147
>All of them overclocked
The Spire can handle 3.8 GHz max anon, which is still a decent overclock.

>>61031176
>that tiny fan is loud as fuck
again, look at the reviews. ALL OF THEM say that the wrath spire is surprisingly quiet.

>>61031201
But it clearly handles 4Ghz in that image. 90C is not even that bad during load. My i5 2400 was reaching over 95 when gaming.

>>61031198
also, your case is not the ideal choice for a budget build, IMO. You can get something cheaper and smaller if you want to save some bucks.

>>61031212
I have it installed on this system now, it's quiet idle but as soon as it revs up it's whiny as fuck. It's not a bad cooler for what it is but it's above the noise levels I'm used to on my 212.

>>61031257
>[
post proof fagit or stfu

1.400 the highest voltage I should run my 1600 at? I want to try for 4ghz.

>>61028157
Where did you even find that LGA 775 motherboard? All new ones are way over that price.

>>61031273
1.45

>>61031232
>90C is not even that bad during load.
but it's out of spec for the Ryzen processors.

>>61031272
I don't have to prove anything to some nigger on the internet

>>61031273
the highest IIRC was like 1.45 for Ryzen. you can google it.

I woudln't go past 1.425

>>61031198
you can save like 50 bucks by using the stick cooler on that pentium and by getting a cheaper case. the pentium is not oc-able and the stock cooler will keep temps pretty cool since it's a cool chip in general. you can contribute that 50 bucks into more ram or an ssd. even a better gpu but to be honest a 1050 ti is probably the best for that processor.

>>61031277
Ebay. no way was I paying a grand for that thing. So 1 used part, with the i/o shield.

You ever feel like you're arguing over numbers that seem large on graphs but are nearly unnoticeable in practice? In the end doesn't it just come down to preference?

>>61031311
stock*

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>>61031302
>he made it all up

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>>61031322
no i didn't

>RX560 is now $140

fuck me

>>61031241
Good idea, thanks, i'll get a mini GTX 1050Ti and a smaller case for cheaper.

My friend complains about space in his room for this PC.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/QX3fZ8

>>61031387
Gladly, where do you want to meet

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Can I get a good RAID card recommendation?

-Need 4x SATA III ports
-Around $200
-Around or used

>>61031313
That's cheating, friend. If you're gonna by used, especially as something as important as a motherboard, you may as well go all used.

>>61031198
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YsvLgL
Overpriced case
Not need at all for the cooler stock CPU cooler is fine on locked cpus
I would get a cheaper case and drop cooler and get 16gb of ram
Also would get a 550w psu for future upgrades to the GPU

>>61031453
What do you guys think of this form of this list?

I want to make sure this list is good.

Can anyone recommend me a good ATX LGA1151 mobo for $100 or under? Looking to transplant my ITX pc into a bigger case.

>>61028157
Just buy a old core 2 quad rig off craigslist for 80$

>>61031531
I fixed the case and got a 1050Ti right here:
>>61031453

I explained that this rig is only for Counter-Strike and the internet here: >>61031151

>ddr3 cost the same as ddr4

Any must haves for 300-500€ build?

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What is the best SSD I can get with an ASRock z87 pro3, an 860 pro?

>>61031559
>$80
>implying
https://newhaven.craigslist.org/sop/6187719327.html

>>61031607
>300-500€ build?
Read OP.

>>61031570
Here I fixed it

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/J24XzM

>>61031619
"not found"
Bad link.
Try again.

>>61031619
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA76H33A2752&cm_re=1gb_flash_drive-_-0BD-00CN-008P4-_-Product

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is the ASUS ROG-POSEIDON-GTX1080TI-P11G-GAMING worth the extra shekels?

>>61031785
if you plan to water cool in a custom look, yea,

>>61031800
>look
loop

>>61031800
I do not but it looks as edgy as my dank memes

>>61031816
what's special about the poseidon edition is it comes with a waterblock as part of the cooler so you can air cool it or watercool it without taking it apart.

>>61031865
and whats the difference between the
ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-O11G-GAMING OC
and
ASUS ROG-STRIX-GTX1080TI-11G-GAMING

the first is overclocked and that's makes it 50 shekels more expensive?

>>61031899
>the first is overclocked and that's makes it 50 shekels more expensive?
yes.

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>>61028157
>>61031526
If we're going off nothing but new, then I see your $235 HD6450 and raise you a $220 GT710.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vtRfZ8

If I get to choose one used part, then I can easily get it below $200.

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>>61029680

>>61032049
That's a bit overpriced. if that were the 8GB model, I'd say, yea go ahead. That should be about 50 eurobucks cheaper

I'm looking for a 1000€ PC ( germany )
I need a good gpu like the rx 580 for rendering stuff in cinema4d and ofc gaming.
Im not really sure about the cpu cause I wanted one of ryzen r7 ones but im not sure.
And I need about 12/16 gb of rams cause I need to run multiple programms and a vm sometimes.
Ill also dualboot win 10 ltsb with arch linux.
I will buy a nas for mass storage so I just need a ssd and maybe a small hdd.
Thanks for any help anons

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I need recommendations for a racing sim monitor.

I'm going widescreen 1080p 144hz monitor, but which company should I go with?

>>61029680
>is it worth it
Only if you get the 8GB Nitro+ version

>>61032147
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/dgcQsJ
How's this?

>>61032147
>rx 580 for rendering stuff
Likely won't help you, rendering is CPU these days

You probably want the R7 1700 with a good cooler.

>>61031607
>300
Not getting much.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/pcbg/saved/

>>61032147
You can get a R7 1700 and a 580(when the prices go down) for €1000

>>61032110
I found another [out of stock] rx580, 8gb gigabyte version for 273 euro
sapphire > gigabyte? or are they both generally the same

https://www.gigabyte.com/Graphics-Card/GV-RX580GAMING-8GD#kf

>>61032213
what's so good about Nitro

>>61032243
>sapphire > gigabyte?
yes, Sapphire coolers are better than gigabytes. or anyone elses for that matter. beyond that, they should perform the same.

I posted this in the previous thread too, so now edited with the advice.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Yy2qM8

Budget is around 900 euros.
Gonna use it to play some games and edit videos.

Is this good? I'm not so sure about the graphic card so any help with that would be amazing.

>>61032243
It's the best aftermarket version if the AMD cards, with all the premium VRM, chokes, cooling solution and all that jazz.

But thinking again, as how the prices are right now the pulse will be just fine.
>>61032147
This is what i got a month and a half ago for those exact same reasons, but i was luchy and got the 570 for about 210USD. The prices are in USD but you can use it as a guide for your build. Also I got the Win10 license from kinguin.net for $25USD

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zHtV9W

>>61028981
honestly, your reaction to him not wanting to pay a shit load more because he has a specific brand/model in mind is the real autism here.

>>61032312
Meh, i wouldn't get that cooler, I'd stick to the stock one, or jump to a noctua Dh15 or something along those lines. But the stock one is great and you can get some decent OC on it.

The 1060 is pretty much the only option at that price range ATM, anon, sorry

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>>61032347
yea! Normal people are da real austists

>>61029906
Nigga you just went full retard, you never go full retard.

The ryzen coolers shit on the intel ones,objectively whether or not you're a shill

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>>61032365
Normal people refuse to pay inflated prices for bullshit... unless it has a BMW badge on it.

>>61032383
>ignore the fact he said Ryzen's stock coolers are worse than the i7 7700k's
>The 7700k has no stock cooler

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>>61032365
you think you're the normal one here?

You're too far gone.

>>61032403
Someone else told him so already. Looks like he based that info on pcpartpicker saying the ryzen ones were shit so his opinion is invalid anyways.

>>61032239
Sounds good anon, thanks

Hey guys, what's a good minecraft machine for under 1k?

>>61032490
Xbox One X

>>61032490
Xbox 1 X

>>61032490
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Hb9xqk

Built using the recommended specs off Mojang's own website. Could probably go cheaper still.
https://help.mojang.com/customer/portal/articles/325948-minecraft-system-requirements

So I got a GTX 1080 ti

In Outlast 2 at 3440 x 1440 max settings on everything, I'm getting 65 - 75c on the gpu and 40-50c on the cpu

Is that too hot or am I being paranoid??

What temp should I be turning off the game at

>>61032648
you are paranoid.
unless you're reaching >85ºC, you'll be fine.

Depending on your carg you can set the fan profile, so thye spin at 100% at a lower temperature (like 60-65) so your card will be cooler, but louder.

>>61032648
gpu: 59*
cpu: 42*

>>61032692
It's the aorus 1080 ti xtreme

The fans don't turn on until it reaches 60c

>>61032719
well, there you go. just download the GPU control software and set it up to your needs.

Also, since the card just blows the air around your case, you NEED good airflow coming in and out of your case, so you can ensure that cool air goes through the GPU, and not just the hot air expelled by the GPU

>>61032752
Right, atm all my other fans are facing one direction, sucking air in and blowing it out the other side

card is fucking massive, weighs nearly 5lbs

Any ways to upgrade a laptop? I already added a SSD and a much better wifi card but the fact the built in graphics are just integrated and the ethernet jack is stuck at 10/100 is annoying

>>61028032
Is there anyway to efficiently buy an older pc or prebuilt thing and slap a 580/1070 in it? I'm trying to be cheap. Is it always cheapest to just buy all the parts?

>>61032768
yeah, the cooling solution is usually heavy, whihc is a good thing, since the thermal capacity is greater and can dissipate more heat that way.

airlow is a big deal for this GPUs. I had to remove some filters from my case because the airflow just wasn't good enough.

>>61032868
atm it's at 42c while I'm browsing, spotify etc with 2 monitors, is that hotter than normal?

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could i upgrade to a rx 470 8gb without any bottlenecking or any other problems?

>>61032900
depends, but generally yeah, it's OK Is it one the "0db" profile? when the fans don't start till the temperatures reach like 50ºC?

>>61032907
Not really, some CPu intensive games, like most AA will be bottlenecked by that CPU. But you should reach 50-60fps on most titles.

>>61032940
not until 60c

My monitors are 3440 x 1440p if that makes a difference

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>mfw my cpu was underclocking itself due to temp
>mfw i was losing 2 complete motherfucking ghz
>mfw shit games like dota 2 and overwatch were dipping under 30fps at times
>mfw just cleaned the heatsink and got a 142% fps improvement


Dont let your shit get dirty guys.

>>61032907
>mfw FX6100

;__________; im gonna get an 8350 soon

>>61032962
Yeah that must be it. Don'tcha worry anon, your GPU is fine.

Guys I recently bought a 144hz monitor and I think it's giving me headaches. Is this normal?

>>61032997
shit man sounds like a brain tumour

go see a doctor

>>61028355
Autist reporting in. At least the guy that complained at the end of the last thread.
I just want a reasoned number of opinions on what cpu to get for 144hz. Considering my plans for an AIO water cooler, the stock ryzen cooler is unnecessary for me.
I love amd, if they offered the best choice i'd pick them gladly, but i got a 100€ discount on an i7 7700k+mobo and unless people give some conclusive proof of the superiority of the AMD cpu i'll keep pestering the OP about the factuality of the post.

What's a good way to check airflow in my case? Using a single Noctua for intake with a rear and top exhaust.

>>61033122
take the wheat test to check airflow

serious question, what's wrong with buying a pc pre built?

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>>61032996
>>61032940
Right I tried doing a custom fan setting, where the fans turn on earlier and in Outlast 2 it went into the 80s for the first time

Now I set it back to auto and it doesn't go over 67c

I don't understand this shit

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HOW THE FUCK DO I TELL WHICH RAM TO BUY?

I click on the dominator platinum and it lists literally like 80 different stick sets. Does the listed clock speed even fucking matter? I feel like they're just selling a bunch of different preset ram profiles as different products. I have no idea how to tell what the ram actually runs at. All I know is that ram definitely can be shitty or good so I want to find out how to tell which sticks to buy.

$220 budget, I'd prefer performance over size. 16 gigs is as much as I'll ever need.

>>61033283
It's usually cheaper to do it yourself while getting better parts at the same time

Prebuilts use shitty RAM, Mobo, and PSU's

Low upgradeability

Building is fun

No cable management

If something goes wrong with it you have to ship the whole thing back rather than just one part

Be a man

580 or 1060?

>GTX 1070 out of stock
REEEEEEEEE
when will this shit end?

>>61028494
I'd bother with older Xeons for cheaper budget server builds but nothing new.

>>61033309
>dominator platinum

Just stop there

You need to get one that works with your mobo first of all. Clock speed does matter. RGB is a meme.

>>61033309
mobo?

get 2 sets of this. 32gb ddr4-3000.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16820313777

>>61033329
Are faggots actually mining with the 1070 now?

>>61033283

If you have the money to do it and you just want a good computer, there's nothing objectively wrong with it. It's more expensive, but you literally just toss them cash and they send you a computer as opposed to picking out each part specifically, ordering them and then taking a few hours to put it together and then a few more hours to get it running right.

Building your own computer is fun, but it's not the end-all be-all that some of /g/ would like you to believe.

>>61031553
anyone?

>>61033345
>>61033346

I'm buying the ram with the mobo, complete build.

Can I lower the speed on that ram to reduce its latency or is the latency hard capped?

>>61033309

>how to tell which RAM to buy

Don't buy that 'valueselect' bullshit. I've got some Crucial Ballistix that has exposed silicon and that shit won't even go from 2133 to 2400 with a $200 mobo.

There is quality in RAM, Corsair has some quality stuff at a nice aesthetic. Just depends on what you're looking for from your computer.

>>61033283
well, 95% of the times they are overpriced by at least 20%, so there's that.

They usually skimp out on the non flashy components, like RAM PSUs, HDDs, and such, while charging a premium.

the first red flag for a pre built is when they don't display ALL the components in detail. like they just say:

i7 processor
Nvidia dedicated graphics
2TB HDD

and such. that's where the common folk fall and get shit for their hard earned money

>>61033396

If it's DDR4 then the RAM will run at 2133 until you run an overclocking program to bump it up to a different speed.

>>61033309
RAM kits go by
>Size per DIMM (1-32GB per unbuffered DIMM)
>CAS ratings (lower is better)
>Pairing (1, 2, 4, or 8 sticks of DIMM per kit)
Everything else is marketing. They bin the flash based entirely on voltages, latencies, and peak stable frequency. Then they Jew you out the ass for the best pick of the litter.

Dominators are Corsair's overclocking RAM with the highest frequency DIMMs at the lowest CAS latency possible.
Vengeance are the half-way point between budget and overclocking RAM that's more value oriented than Dominators
ValueSELECT are cheapo DIMMs that can't overclock very well and have shitty CAS timings.
The Laptop are SO-DIMMs, so most desktop motherboards can't use them.

>>61033396
there are lower latency kits, but lower speeds, unless you want to pay more for lower latency high speed sets.

i have mine running the xmp profile, so i would assume you could tighten up timings if you tried.

>>61033371
>a few hours to put it together
>a few hours to get it running right

Both take around 1 hour, even for first time builders. The only tedious part are the drivers. and cable management.

Which are not guaranteed for a prebuilt.

>>61033407
>>61033429

I want to reduce cache misses, or rather the shittyness of cache misses with small calculations/data accesses. I don't think ram speed matters nearly as much as latency for these particular problems.

>>61033309
if it's green, it is a dream
if it's black, put it back

>>61033228
The wheat test?

What do you guys recommend for thermal paste?

>>61028359
Hey kiddo, you saved that picture less than a month ago.

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Based in the UK
Budget of 550 max
Ideas on improving, ill probs ask questions im quite a noob, thanks a lot!

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>>61033429
I mean that's what I picked. Its literally the only DDR4 ram at 10 latency, 14 latency is when you can start breaking 3k speed. Corsair Platinum is pretty much always the first to breach the speed/latency thresholds so I'm just assuming that they're the meme enthusiast top of the line ram.

>>61033519
anime website

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>>61033711
This is the other set I was talking about.

>>61033694
DROP THE I3
get the Pentium G4560, read the OP.
it has >90% of the performance for much less.


If you want to jump up in performance for a bit more, the Ryzen 5 1400 goes for around 140-160 USD, and that is a big improvement over the i3. and comes with a pretty good stock cooler, so you don't have to buy an aftermarket one.

So there's ram specifically made for AMD4 or something.
Is it even worth it or will any kind of ram do? I'm making my new gaming machine a Ryzen.
Also I'm most likely going to overclock, so which Ryzen gets the fastest threads, R5's or R7's?
Streaming might be a fun thing I could do but it's not a huge priority for me to do.

>>61033803
get either the 1600 or 1700. depending on your budget. you can OC with the stock cooler. and reach about 3.8GHz. you can reach higher ones with better thermals with a cooler for around $60USD.

About the ram it all depends on the Motherboard. Once you have selected a B350 or X370 MoBo,go to their website and look for the board's QVL Memory support list. where they display every Ram kit with the supported frequency.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/rHKwP6

Going to buy ALL of my build at Microcenter.
The 1070 is $400 since I am buying a mobo from them too.

How does this look?

Also recommend me a headset or speakers pls

>>61033803
Look up what kits use Samsung b-die, there should be lots about it on google. Memory compatibility on ryzens is pretty much down to the ram modules used, and afaik hynix is a lot more hit or miss. B-die is pretty much guaranteed to run at 3200MHz+ without a fuss, and is definitely the golden standard right now. Memory speeds improve performance a lot on Ryzen so the high end shit with b-die is a good place to start anyways.

All ryzens out right now except the 1400s should be identical performance per thread, so I wouldn't worry about that.

>>61033922
is the psu too expensive for what i need?

>>61033320
1060 no question. 1060 > 980 even

>>61033803
>So there's ram specifically made for AMD4 or something.
That's G.Skill marketing for you
>Is it even worth it or will any kind of ram do?
The only difference between their TridentZ/RipjawsV and FlareX lines is where they sourced the NANDs from and their base speed (2133 vs 2400 for the FlareX). FlareX even reuses the heatspreader from their last gen Ripjaws4.
>Also I'm most likely going to overclock, so which Ryzen gets the fastest threads, R5's or R7's
No significant differences, although you start noticing thread performance degradation once you use one of the dual-core-per-CCX 1500X and 1400.

>>61033711
If youre buying meme RAM at least get something cool

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232476&cm_re=trident_z_ddr4-_-20-232-476-_-Product

Shit all over my upgrades, /g/

Asus GTX 760 DirectCU II OC up to MSI GTX 1080 Gaming X
Intel Core i5-3570K up to Intel Core i7-7700K
Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO up to Corsair H100i v2 AIO
Gigabyte Z77X-UD3H up to MSI Z270 Gaming Pro Carbon
8GB DDR3 G.Skill Ripjaws @ 1600MHZ up to 16GB DDR4 Corsair CMK16GX @ 3000HMZ

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>want to upgrade from a Skylake i3
>i5 6400s and i7 6600s haven't come down a cent
>kaby lake not an option because I'm using a beta bios to overclock locked chips, also windows 7
>ryzen would cost $500 for faster ram, new mobo and an r5 1600
>>and need ghetto hacks for windows 7 to work

what do? are i5s laughable tier yet, or still worth buying?

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>removing a GPU from a mini board

>>61034013
Wtf even is this. Prebuilt?

>>61033978
The cas latency is 16 on that, the other ram I listed had 14 with the same clock speed. I'm getting a case without a window because I can't stand the meme gamer aesthetic.

>>61034045
Nah mate, home built. Why? Ramshackle list of parts with no real cohesion?

>>61034021
bite the bullet and get the 1600

is the new 2500K

What games could i play with this toaster?
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/wypxqk

>>61034021
>and need ghetto hacks for windows 7 to work
Get a 1600 then download the windows 7 drivers from AMD's site.

I recently bought two 1080 Tis, which have a 120mm radiator each. Now I figured my case is too small to set them up in a reasonable way, and it isn't pretty.
So I'm looking for a new case. I use a normal (huge) bequiet air cooler for the cpu, so that limits the space a little.
I intend to use the gpu radiators as exhaust, probably one at the top and one at the back. Does anyone have any suggestions for a case that provides proper airflow but is still silent?
I'm not on a budget, but also don't want to spend $400 on it.

>>61034112
Yeah I know, that's why I'm even considering it

But since I don't need a new mobo for a 7600 it actually costs less

>>61029509
Get faster ram and seagate psu

>>61028032
When is the best time to buy parts in the US? I was going to wait until black friday but is there a better day to buy?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/rswosylus/saved/rHKwP6

Microcenter build
the 1070 is $400 with a purchase of mobo.

anything i should change? I am using a 1080p 60hz monitor

How is the cooling system on the Pentium G4560?

Will it fry without a cooler?

>>61034229
>Seagate PSU

>Buy new monitor
>Works for 30 minutes before getting pinstripes across the entire thing randomly

Why do bad things happen to mediocre people?

Holy shit.

AMD processors are hot garbage.

But Intel processors are not buyable. Too expensive.

Is this proof that there isn't always a middle ground?

>>61034326
well, I'd get a Hitachi Ultrastar 3TB HDD for like $60

and the 1070 Is Overkill for 1080p60. either save money and get a 1060, or drop the money and get a better screen

>>61034340
Nah, the stock cooler is good enough.

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Can we get some S4 Mini builds in here, I really love the look of this console killer and would like to have a Ryzen 7 or Ryzen 5 build with the chassis. This is what I have so far. I'll be upgrading the Ram and GPU another time tho.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/kxGmZ8

>>61034463
can you pick out a good 1060 from microcenter for me then?
http://www.microcenter.com/category/4294966937/Video-Cards

Most hover around the $300 range. I really dont wanna spend even more on a $200 monitor for 144hz...i am not even THAT into gaming anymore but want a solid pc

>>61034380
Monitors are the only thing I ever buy from a store even if it is a little pricier cause I get to test it at the store and don't have to fuck around with RMA lottery with dead pixels and BLB.

>>61034534
i plan on buying all my pc parts from a store. microcenter. get everything from one place and if i have any issues i can drive it back to the store.

>>61034439
Ryzen isn't complete trash, depending on what you want. You could always just Wait™ for Threadripper.

>>61034507
just get the cheapest 1060 6GB, it'll last you a long time at 1080p60

and for what it's worth , 1080p60 stable is perfectly fine. I would rather recommend getting a second screen for productivity and shitposting simultaneously

>>61034507
http://www.microcenter.com/product/467419/GeForce_GTX_1060_6GB_Video_Card

>>61034507
http://www.microcenter.com/product/468419/GeForce_GTX_1060_Overclocked_6GB_GDDR5_Video_Card_w-_WindForce_Cooling

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>>61034587
only $250, not bad. why is the card small with 1 fan, though?

should i get this one instead? http://www.microcenter.com/product/467997/GeForce_GTX_1060_Overclocked_Dual-Fan_6GB_GDDR5_Video_Card
it's $290.
>>61034583
yeah, since i already have a monitor for it and i dont do online games or graphic heavy games i'd rather stick to 60hz 1080p.

Im the anon that bought all this and had a meltdown/panic attack and returned it all.

>>61034610
$290 and there are 3 in stock! i might grab this one, need to check out reviews and all that.

shit, hope nothing on my list sells out by the time i get there tomorrow.

>>61034632
Hey I remember you. Did you end up getting a gym membership?

>>61034632
It is small because it is the mini version.

It is meant to fit in smaller cases. It is more compact, same power though.

1 fan can cover the whole area.

If you want a small case and don't want to pay a lot for a card, get that.


About that other card, no, at that price you might as well get the card this anon suggested: >>61034610

You can either get the mini or the full priced normal sized, your choice. It depends on what case you want.

>>61034632
>why is the card small with 1 fan, though?
So it will fit in small form factor cases like mITX

>>61034645
I suggest grabbing it quickly.

Looking to upgrade my cpu.
What's the best processor?

>>61034658
>>61034658
i dont work that fast, but i started using my roomates free weights. Im sore from 15 lbs but its a start.
i still find that im in my roommates room too much and not my own since i dont have a pc of my own lol. so going with a cheaper but good build, i think.
>>61034664
im going with a mid sized case, more than likely. So you recommend the gigabyte brand 1060?
actually the gigabyte is the same price as the asus, got confused by the rebate. i dont need the mini, though.

glad im not getting a 1070. youre right about not needing it.
>>61034694
dammit, its a 45min drive and i cant go until 2pm tomorrow. (its 7pm now)

now im worried!

>>61034697
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIABGC4H91776&cm_re=1_core_intel_processor-_-9SIABGC4H91776-_-Product

>>61034713
Hey man, baby steps. The hard part isn't exercising, the hard part is doing it every day. It gets easier.

>>61034713
Purchase it and have it held at your local MicroCenter.

>>61034694
http://www.microcenter.com/product/467995/GeForce_GTX_1070_Overclocked_Dual-Fan_8GB_GDDR5_Video_Card

this one says there is 10+ in stock, if the gigabyte (3 in stock) is sold out by tomorrow i guess ill just end up getting that card

>>61034725
just recently got temporary warehouse job so im lifting a lot during work so its even harder to excercise when i come home lol

>>61034729
oh, i can do that!?

>>61034729
why does it say in store only though!?

>>61034740
Yup.

You can also do that at GameStop.

(Not like you need that info, fuck them.)

>>61034756
That's because you can't have it shipped.

I am pretty sure you can pre-purchase it and then pick it up at the store.

>>61034759
shit, man. going to review the 2 cards and choose which is the better buy. the gigabyte or the asus.

be back, going to the store. im getting really excited to go there tomorrow. anything else i should prebuy