/pcbg/ - PC Building General - non-shit edition

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This image proves that Macs aren't good computers.

>>61015366
of course not. They're built like shit, non-serviceable, and overpriced for what you get.

>>61015366

I don't think you'd find ANYONE on 4chan that'd defend a Mac

fuck man i wish i had more money that way i wouldn't have bought into this asus prime b350m-a ;-;

First time PC builder.
I know nothing about this stuff, just wanna play games with friends and edit stuff.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JFT2wV

Is this any good?

max budget is around 800/900 I guess.

>>61017669
Swap the 7700 for an AMD Ryzen 5 1600.
Drop the cooler
Change the motherboard to a B350 chipset board
Add an SSD for a boot drive (120 GB minimum)
Change the memory to 3000 or 3200 mhz memory
change the PSU to semi-modular or fully modular.

>>61017890
Thanks, switching all this and it actually came out different.
Can you tell me what the difference is between 7700 and the AMD one tho?

>>61018741
cheaper* not different.

>>61015032
When you want a pretty future proof and amazing computer, set aside at LEAST $1600. Here's a good parts list:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Q3qM8

I know the CPU is a little overboard, but at 4.2GHz, it's a good investment.

I work in a computer repair shop, and along with my other duties, I build custom rigs. While you CAN build a good PC for around $600, for an amazing experience, set aside at least $1600.

>>61018741
>Can you tell me what the difference is between 7700 and the AMD one tho?
The AMD chip offers similar performance for a significantly lower price. The Ryzen 5 1600 has 6 cores and 12 threads, with similar performance to Intel's Kaby Lake processors. It falls behind slightly in single threaded workloads, so the Intel chips will provide slightly better gaming experiences but not by much. Ryzen shines though in anything multi-threaded like video editing or rendering of any kind. Because it has 6 cores and 12 threads and most games are designed for 4 cores and 8 threads (most, not all. Some use less, some use everything you'll give them), it leaves 2 cores and 4 threads free while gaming which allows you to leave open a browser with multple tabs, and discord open while gaming, without hindering gaming performance. The Intel chips will hit 100% CPU usage spikes in games which can cause stuttering and dropped frames. Meanwhile, a 1600 never goes above 60% CPU usage in games At worst, the Ryzen 5 1600 is 9% worse at gaming than an i7, but the difference is so small, most people won't notice it.
Besides, you can't take advantage of the i7's better performance unless your monitor has a 144 Hz refresh rate. Most people game at 60 to 75 HZ/fps at 1080P, which the 1600 will do all day long, and so will the i7. But the 1600 is cheaper with similar performance. IMO, the performance increase of the i7 isn't worth the $100+ price hike.
Sorry if this rambled. I'm not good with words.

Main thread
>>61014712
>>61014712
>>61014712

/pcbg/ is a containment thread, so please only post in the main thread to avoid cluttering up / bumping more worthy threads off the board

>>61019292
That thread has the wrong OP copypasta. Fuck off Intel shill

Posted in the previous thread but I'm trying to build a new pc with a Ryzen 7 1700 but all the motherboards seem to get bad reviews especially around the RAM what motherboard is recommended?

>>61019333
what chipset are you looking at?

>>61019348
AMD X370 but if there's something better just tell me price doesn't matter I just for som reason can't find anything.

580's available when?

>>61015896
Free macbooks are good.

>>61019573
Never thanks to crypto coins

>>61019292
get cancer cuck

>>61015032
Anyone want to hazard a guess as to how long before the miners stop inflating the GPU market?

>>61020868
when etherium crashes

>assemble brothers ryzen build
>everything going smoothly
>memory overclocks to 2933 with stock DOCP settings (haven't tweaked for higher yet)
>try to install windows 7
>keyboard and mouse stop being recognized once the installation screen pops up
microsoft really are jews. should i even bother with a usb->ps/2 adapter or should i buy a real ps/2 keyboard and mouse to install w7?

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I'm in the mood for a fresh build. I need another tower

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ASUS VZ27AQ 27" WQHD 2K (2560x1440) IPS Monitor $407.72aud. can it be beat?

You ni/g/gers almot made me kill myself. All of you anons recommended I go with the 1600 instead of 1600X "because overclocking performance is the same." I went ahead and bought 1600X because I didnt want to risk being able to have a high frequency if I lost the silicon lottery or some shit. And now, for some god damm reason, I cant OC for shit. I have a Corsair H60, and when using ASUS ROG CPUBurn, even with a 0.5GHz OC, it fucking crashes within 2 minutes. Also I cant OC my validated memory to its rated speed (3200MHz). I can only OC it to 2933MHz so it can post, and even then in Ryzen Master and CPU-Z it shows 2133. I am running BIOS version 7b. What should I do now? RMA cooler, board, or the CPU?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XWzzwV

>>61021825
FreeSync?

>>61021857
>He fell for the Ryzen meme

>>61021857
have you tried not overclocking

>>61021881
>Buy 1600x
>Aftermarket cooler
>Just don't overclock man
Ryzen. It just works.

>>61021857
>even with a 0.5GHz OC
You mean OC it to 4.1GHz? That's the limit of the current Ryzen CPU, most in fact hit the voltage wall before that
Also, update your bios to latest (beta one) for RAM overclock
http://www.gigabyte.us/Motherboard/GA-AB350-Gaming-3-rev-10#support-dl

>>61021861
no, i probably should of said its more for art than anything, and at most the games i play i get 60+ fps anyway. panel look and color are the main things 27 inch + 2k+

>>61021881
>>61021876
>>61021891
>>61021915
My bad, not 0.5, 0.05

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any improvements to this? will there be any problems?

>>61021825
get a BENQ PV3200PT

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VEGA WHEN

>>61021931
https://www.productchart.com/monitors/
Try this site.

Will this game well? This is going to be my first build
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/HChRxY

>>61021946
Check out this goyim. He thinks he can snatch a VEGA before the stock runs out.

>>61021915
I am on F7b, i tried memory OC on both F1 and F7b, still unstable at above 2933. It wont even post above that. Also can't seem to manually change mem timings at all, the BIOS wont save the settings even when I save a profile and press save and exit

>>61021985
PSU?

>>61022005
Check the parts list i put here >>61021857

>>61021942
.. it costs $2000 apparently

>>61021963
searching it now, shame it doesnt have aus

>>61022055
Find the model you like with the features you want and then look at AUS prices.

>>61022032
Does it run everything at stock?

>>61021968
My lad you can get a 16 cores CPU for $650

What do you guys think of the MSi - GTX 1060 6GB Armor?

>>61022075
Good enough

>>61022069

Can today's games use 16 cores?

Why does the 7700k still game better than 8 core CPUs?

>>61021946
already for preorder
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105073&cm_re=vega-_-14-105-073-_-Product

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>>61022101
>Why does the 7700k still game better than 8 core CPUs
it doesn't

>>61022101
>Why does the 7700k still game better than 8 core CPUs?
Because it has faster cores so it can process the data faster and as such move on to other tasks sooner

>Can today's games use 16 cores?
nah

>>61019148
>7700K
No

>>61022110
>It is the no source fag that always appears whenever someone says 7700k is better for gaming

DE JAVU

>>61022101
Because clock speed>cores when it comes to gaming

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>>61022119
(you)

>>61022067
Yeah

>>61022172
You still have no source except for a doctored screenshot. No reverse image doesn't work. And don't post 1800 benchmarks and call it the same.

We good? K lets move on instead of wasting the next 100 post of me calling you a faggot.

>>61022055
2000? it's "only" 1200 around here. if you are not specifically looking for a gayming screen this will hold for many many years. in my eyes shelling out some more for screens is never wrong.
I still use my 10 year old iiyama prolite2403. it still works perfectly, just became a little dim.

>>61022180
RMA the mobo

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>>61022184
ITS DOCTORED BECAUSE IT DOESNT CONFIRM MY BIAS

>>61022237
Stop wasting everyone's time. Post source of those benchmarks or stop false flagging.

>>61017669
There are several things on that list that really strike me as foolish and since you say you're the First Time builder then I'll actually make a long blog-like post to help you out.

>>61017890
This has the most important points. You absolutely want a modular and better quality (more expensive) PSU. There will be some connectors you don't use and you'll have those wires hanging around in your case. You can tie them together and so on but it's just so better to have a modular one. Further, the fan on that PSU is absolute shit and it will be loud. A good PSU can last you several builds. It's the one part of the PC you really don't want to cheap out on. A good semi-passive PSU like Corsair RMi (don't buy RMx) can last you very long because the fan doesn't "wear out" and it makes a lot less noise. On cheapaer PSUs with a fan that was shit to begin with the fan will become really loud after a year or two.

You absolutely want to have a SSD in your build, if you can't afford both a SSD and a HDD then just buy a SSD now. The difference in boot times and game startup times is HUGE.

Also, that cheap cooler has a shitty fan that gives off more noise from the motor than the air movement - just like all the shitty cooler master fans. If it's a fan or got a fan and it's from cooler master then you want to avoid it.

Buy one 8 GB memory module, not 2x4 and buy another one when you can afford later.

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>>61022119
>he can't identify source by the pixels
Do you even Autism?

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>>61022266
>b-b-but m-m-m-muh sour-r-rce
1700x >7700k

get over it

>>61022110

Those are really minimal for having twice the computational ability...

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>>61022285
its still better fanboy

>>61019148
nice bait. don't reply.

If I swap my wraith spire, that came with r5 1600, with a cm hyper 212 evo, what can I expect?

Also, how would I go about buying that am4 adapter? This cooler was bought 5y ago and I dont think its am4 compatible.

>>61022293

I just want ITX options and no overclocking headaches....

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>>61022339
>itx
meme

>no overclocking headaches
and this isnt, just kidding skylake doesnt need to be overclocked to reach 100c on water

I think my biggest stumbling block in a new build right now is the lack of GPU options, it's put me in the position where i might as well just save up for better parts since the ones i originally wanted are unavailable.

Which in some ways isn't all bad, i'll probably end up getting a Vega or 1080 at this rate.

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>>61021472
From the last thread.

Managed to get it to post and working.

But, i can't get my ram clock speeds past 2133mhz. If i try to manually adjust it any higher or use XMP, no post.

FUCK

>>61022326
nothing, dont bother

>>61022339
Gigabyte and ASrock's ITX AM4 motherboards should come out by the end of August.

>>61022326
>Also, how would I go about buying that am4 adapter?
ask corsair's support

>>61015032
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rVNfZ8
how this looking fellas? mostly music production and some video editing, would be bringing a lot of my current parts over. upgrading from a 8350 that is currently struggling.
still looking for a video card though. ideally I'd like to be able to game at 4k since I use a 4k monitor for the other stuff, but I dont mind stepping back to 1440p, and I also dont mind buying used gpu.
any suggestions? anything I should be aware of or think of differently? m.2 is going to be used for scratch disk and for some virtual instrument libraries, not as a boot disk so dont worry about that. anything i should look at?

>>61021968
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wYxyd6

I completely re-constructed the list from the ground up to fit your budget and actually slice it in half.

That former build was a fucking mess.

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>>61022326
>>61022380
>nothing, dont bother
???

>>61022377
Update bios

>>61022419
>10c
not THAT much of a difference

>>61022426
Already did.

>>61022399
>rgb ram
ew
for 4k gaming you'd need gtx1080/1080ti. you can also Wait™ for Vega.

>>61022405
>>61022285
>twice the computational ability
...having twice the computational ability doesn't actually help you at all with a lot of workloads.

Encoding HEVC with ffmpeg -c:v libx265 won't use more than 5 threads regardless of what you do (please, PLEASE go ahead and prove me wrong). It's pretty much the same story with AVC video. Encoding VP9 with ffmpeg is even worse, that will barely use two.

A few things like pbzip2 (default installed on fedora is bzip2, you have to replace it) and make -j12 will push a Ryzen CPU to it's limit but most things don't. They just don't.

Intel fanboys are somewhat right (for now) about this "single core performance" matters meme and also somewhat right about the "quad core is enough" meme.

>>61022427
are we looking at the same image? it's 21C difference under load. and he already has the cooler, just needs the bracket. it is worth it

>>61022431
What RAM?
People have reported incompatibility with some AM4 brands and some RAM brands. Just growing CPU pains.

>>61022438
ehhh thats a lot of money I dont really care to spend for something I really only do a few hours a week. What would be the minimum for like 1440p? something like a 1070 or used 980ti?
>rgb ram eww
woman type likes it, I dont ever see the inside of my computer. she thinks its cool, it doesnt bother me
>you do the math

>>61022419
Maybe they are doing something like noctua and will send you a bracket if you contact cooler master?

rich kid here.
does /g/ approve singularity computers?

>>61022460
Corsair Vengeance LPX 8x2 3000Mhz CL5.

I may try AGESA 1.0.0.6 Beta BIOS and see if i can get it up to proper clock speeds.

>>61021968
>>61022069
>>61022405
you realize this is a bait right? stop responding

also >>61022405 your build is still shit
>6700k
>2133mhz ram on z270 mobo
>full tower case
>budget psu on 3.6k build
>fucking THREE shitty cancerous monitors
>shitty corsair peripherals
i hope no one takes your advice ever. PLEASE don't post here again.

>>61022326
>cm hyper 212 evo
Expect buzzing from the fans motor and loud clicking. Every single cooler master fan on every single one of their products is complete garbage.

Try looking at something like Be Quiet Pure Rock or Be Quiet Pure Rock Slim. Do look closely at your motherboard and the height of your RAM before buying the Pure Rock one, though. That one is massive and does hoover over the first RAM slot on a lot of motherboards. I absolutely love it, it's rated at 140W TDP and you can run this thing fan-less - not without a fan, have a fan and set the fan to start spinning at 48C. It'll rarely kick in like when you encode a video for more than 20 minutes and things like that.

>>61022500
>shitty cancerous monitors
What the hell is cancerous about them?

Do you even have anything to back up your retarded claims?

>shitty corsair peripherals
Are you retarded? As long as it has Cherry MX Blues and has RGB backlighting, it should be fine.

Don't be a priss fucking dolt.

>>61022493
http://www.corsair.com/en-gb/vengeance-lpx-16gb-2x8gb-ddr4-dram-3000mhz-c15-memory-kit-black-cmk16gx4m2b3000c15

This one? Give exact model and make please.

>>61022532
That's the exact model.

>>61022518
he already has the cooler. if he used it for 5 years i guess he's familiar with it and your "buzzing and loud clicking" doesn't bother it.
not worth spending another 40$

>>61022326
>>61022467
you can order bracket online:
http://www.cmstore-usa.com/ryzen-am4-x-bracket-for-hyper-series-will-be-restocked-soon/
currently not in stock. just look for part number: RR-AM4B-H212-S1 elsewhere

>>61022547
https://www.msi.com/Motherboard/support/B350-GAMING-PLUS.html#support-mem-2

You are SoL here familia. That RAM model isn't supported for your mobo. I hope your kept your receipt for an exchange.

>>61022460
>incompatibility with some AM4 brands and some RAM brands

This is absolutely true and a problem.

I bought a AX370-Gaming 5 motherboard, a Ryzen 1600X CPU and a 32 GB Corsair LPX kit and put it together and started it up and it got the the grub screen and the minute I started GNU/Linux I GOT A BLANK SCREEN AND IT JUST HUNG. Booting another distro revealed that it was due to RAM issues.

Now, it did work just fine after downloading the latest non-beta BIOS from their website. Everything's worked just fine since.

Do expect problems like this out of the box with Ryzen systems.

I just received the R5 1600 box for the PC I'm gonna build for my sibling and I'm jealous. The box is pretty neat.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vLGWvV

How is this for an extreme budget build?

(By the way, I have ethernet, so I don't need a wireless adapter.)

>>61022643
>Extreme budget
>CPU cost as much as the cooler
Just fuck my budget up right?

>>61022522
>retarded claims
vg248qe came out 4 years ago. since then many other, better monitors were released. it has shitty colours, no freesync/g-sync and doesn't have any sort of flicker-free technology (enjoy your eye cancer). not only that but it's WAY overpriced for what if offers.
monitors like ViewSonic XG2401 or Samsung C24FG70 (VA panel !) fucking eat it on breakfast.

buying THREE FUCKING BAD TN 1080p 144hz monitors on 1080ti is such a retarded idea i don't know how to describe it. with this budget 1440p144hz / 4k 60hz w/ gsync should be an obvious choice

>>61022522
>has RGB backlighting, it should be fine.
>>>/trash/
not to mention logitech/zowie mice are superior

>>61022392
>>61022419
>>61022550

Thanks guys, I will contact CM and ask them about that bracket and how to get it from fucking [spoiler] Bosnia [/spoiler].

>>61022643
>am3+ build in 2017
are you retarded? scrap the whole build, read the op and try again

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>>61022672
No, really.

If something meets your criteria, you shouldn't be fucking picky.

You are such a brat.

Get over yourself.

how is my budget build

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/2Cc6Fd

>>61022706
nice arguments you autist. you probably bought vg248qe and want to validate your poor choice.
enjoy buying inferior harware/peripherals because "it meets your criteria".

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>>61022706
>>61022747
are you guys fighting about monitors?

>>61022720
not sure if bait but
there is no excuse to buy that processor while pentium/r5 1500x exists
that gpu is currently way overpriced due to crypto miners, so also a piss poor idea

>>61022643
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Jk2tFd
3 times better. the monitor is actually 75hz. consider spending more on an actual case instead of this shit

22 INCH for 1980x1080 OR 24 INCH
27 INCH HAS A DISGUSTING LEAP OF 30 EUR AND COMES WITH A FUCKING TN PANEL

Could I get away with a passive cooler for a 40W CPU?

>>61023010
24

>>61023010
27 inch 1080p is shit enough already. 24" 1080p is optimal.
also not all tn panels are bad. for example: AOC G2460VQ6 is a budget tn 75hz, but in reviews it's highly praised for good color quality. read: https://uk.hardware.info/reviews/6417/14/aoc-gaming-monitors-review-for-every-budget-conclusion
http://www.techadvisor.co.uk/review/budget-flat-panel-display/aoc-g2460vq6-monitor-review-3635346/

>>61023066
>no DVI
trash
garbage

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>>61023082
>DVI
ah damn you're right

>>61023113
>it didnt come out yesterday so it sux xD

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>>61023113
wowee

>>61023113
Sup Tim. Fuck off.

>>61023113
woah, it was born before me!

>>61023113
>use VGA
>bad shitty shielding makes the screen have spastic tears despite vsync/whatever
>use DVI
>doesn't happen
hmm really make yuo think

Anon, wtf is gainward gpu

>>61023224
owned by palit. mainly for the european market

>>61023224
Rebranded Palit

>>61019148
Hello horsejumper please leave forever

>>61023510
why do you think it's him?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GDrzLD
Any suggestions on upgrades?

>>61023843
You're not saying what for. The only thing to change here would be adding 8 more GB of DDR3, other than that there's nothing to upgrade. If you need a new computer then start from scratch.

Looking for a new GPU to max all games at 1080p with 80fps+.

How are these prices?
rx 580 4g: 230 eurosdollars
rx 580 8g: 270 eurobucks
gtx 1070: 420 euroshekels
gtx 1080: 560 euromarken

Got r5 1600 at 3.7 and memory at 2933, which card to get? Will this setup bottleneck suggested card?

>>61023843
Or get a good cooler and OC your i7.

>>61023914
Mainly for gaming.
And alright i will start from scratch then i guess.
>>61023974
I have a cooler on it just cant find it on part picker.

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Anyone have a cryorig cooler with a ryzen cpu? any of word on how long it takes for the adaptor bracket to arrive?

>>61023946
no it won't bottleneck any of them.
you won't be able to get rx580 anywhere but it's good for 1080p. after that comes gtx1070 i guess. gtx 1080 is too much for 1080p.

Im moving out to a house with roommates next year, and I dont want my (for me) expensive pc to be stolen. I thought about building a sleeper pc with an old case. Open to suggestions, different ideas etc.

>>61024121
Get a security cable you dweeb

>>61024121
How about you lock the door

>>61024036
>And alright i will start from scratch then i guess.
?
You're not making sense, why are people so shallow? I'm asking you what are you doing with your PC or what do you want it to do? What is it causing you problem at the moment?
If you don't even understand your own computer then what will you even gain from getting another one?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vdzmzy

I really need an upgrade. I built this back in 2015 and it has not been changed since. Streetfighter and Overwatch look like trash on it. I was thinking of switching out my current GPU for a 1060

>>61023843
seeing you already have a new gpu the wisest choice would be upgrading cpu, so you'd also need new motherboard and ram. the most popular (and best value) choice would be: Ryzen 5 1600 + B350 motherboard (AsRock or MSI) + 8GB (or 16GB) of ~3000MHz DDR4 RAM.

also that fucking 850w psu jesus christ.

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>>61024390
>z97 and a locked cpu
you fucked up anon

in overwatch you should be getting 60fps on ultra and probably 100+ on tweaked high/medium.
it's almost impossible to buy most of the gpus atm. if you manage to catch gtx 1060 for a reasonable price then go for it.
it you're not cpu bottlenecked you will get 3x more fps (look at gtx980 on the chart)

When will Noctua make a fan that isn't hideous?

>>61024390
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Vdzmzy
Find a used 4790K or 5775C. The 4790K can clock way higher, but the 5775C has 128MB of L4 cache, which really pays off in a lot of Unreal engined games

>>61024121
spraypaint a loli on it

>>61024472
What's wrong with the z97? Should I switch it out?

>>61024515
when will you?

>>61024520
>paying ~300$ for a used cpu on a dead platform
great idea

>>61024540
I did years ago.

>>61024552
That means he doesn't have to spend more on a new motherboard, memory, and CPU.
>b-b-but muh Ryzen
That's $260 for a decent upgrade (to a 1600), another $90 for a decent B350 motherboard, and then an additional $90 for DDR4-2400 memory (last I checked, 2666 is in the $100 level)

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anyone have this? is good?

>>61024539
z97 is a motherboard that allows cpu overclocking, but i5 4590 is a locked cpu which you can't oc anyway.
there's nothing you can do now, you should've picked either 4690k with z97 or i5 4590 with h81 / h87 mobo

>>61024589
The front panel and bottom filter rattles if you set the fans too high. They can be silenced with taping bits of foam around their contact points.
It feels like cheap plastic shit at the front and cheap metal all around.

>>61024589
no. It's an ugly box you want to hide in a cabinet.

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ryzen 5 1500x or 1600?
I'm very conflicted

>>61024633
1600. The 1500X isn't as good and suffers from some weird CCX penalty that isn't present in the 6-core version.
Or wait for APUs.

>>61024633
Why? The 1600 is not much cheaper but massively better

>>61024414
>>61024414
Thank you for the solid advice.
I am still new to all this and that current PC was given to me.
It's problem atm is it just takes 5 min to boot and is just generally slow.
I have been informed that 4GB is all you really need, what is the point of getting 8GB?
Also my friend got the 850w power supply for $20 because it didnt work.
The fucker put it in upside down and it couldnt suck in air. But he wasnt going to tell them that.

>>61024646
>>61024651
thanks

>>61024623
>>61024626
its seems like redesigned fractal define R5. i just want my PC to be quiet. i think i'll buy it

>>61024667
>it seems like ripped-off fractal define R5
ftfy

a good non-mechanical keyboard (for gaming)?
looking for something under 40€

>>61024667
>i just want my PC to be quiet.
Avoid Fractal then. What you want is the be quiet! Dark Base 900

>>61024357
Ok, plain and simple.
IS
IT
WORTH
UPGRADING
OR
JUST
BUILDING
A
NEW
PC?
Currently slow booting, Can be fixed with SSD.
Lags a lot just in general operation. Maybe new CPU, or hardware fatigue. I am not sure.

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Does this cpu fan should be facing gpu? Just saw this picture at some Facebook page

>>61024571
200$ for r5 1600, 80$ mobo and 100$ for ram.
that's 80$ more over used 4790k and you're on a new platform that's going to be suppported for at least next 3 years, faster ram and 6/12 cpu.

also he can sell old i5 + z97 + ddr3 ram for ~300$.

>>61024705
In all my PCs i have built the CPU fan faces front to back. I have never encountered this design.

>>61024700
just build a new PC. Though you may want to reuse the graphics card until the current mining boom dies off and prices return to normal.

>>61024714
>also he can sell old i5 + z97 + ddr3 ram for ~300$.
kek no he can't
Just look at the prices on ebay. He'll be lucky to get more than $190 for the combo.

>>61024705
What the fuck? You installed your CPU fan wrong. I have that brand of CPU cooler.

I want to get a pc for streaming games, video editing and graphic+game design (unity/ue4 and 3d stuff with blender, possibly zbrush too) but I don't have a single fucking clue about where to even start with parts.

My budget is 2000$, a cheaper build is fine as long as it can keep up with high/max settings for streaming and handles design software well enough.

Please help me out kind anons.

>>61024705
It's a design choice but it's a great way to make your CPU hotter by forcing it to get only air that was heated by the GPU

>>61024658
>>61024700
long boot could be a software problem (reinstall OS) or your hdd may be dying (check SMART).
don't go less than 8GB if you plan to do gaming. new games make use of even 16gb.
just build new ryzen build (re-use gpu, psu, storage). this cpu is 8 years old.

>>61024730
Mine faces the front
>>61024751
It's not mine. Btw this the deepcool gammax
>>61024765
That's what I thought.

>>61024764
Start with an R7 1700 as the CPU then add storage based on your needs, then add a mobo that can fit this storage and check the QVL list of the motherboard to get a RAM kit that you are 100% sure will work with this specific motherboard

>>61024741
i did. i see z97 + i5 4590 + 12gb for 260$.

>>61024781
>Btw this the deepcool gammax
I know. I have that exact cooler.

>>61024799
I personally have the ice blade pro v2

>>61024667
The Define series is redesigned Performance One

>>61024700
Nice caps retard, yeah buy an i5 7400, perfect for you.

>>61024837
>i5 7400
Ryzen 5 1400

>>61024842
>Ryzen 5 1400
Ryzen 5 1600

GTX 1050 Ti is good enough.

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>>61024765
I hope you mean builder choice. Cause it is absolutely not a design choice.

>>61024806
Eh it served me well

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>>61024882
>Cause it is absolutely not a design choice.
Idk man, maybe for that specific cooler but other coolers do leave the option to mount it that way on purpose

>>61024882
Nice flip flop. What's your cpu? How are your temperatures?

>>61024793
First off forgive me for not knowing shit and if some of these questions are retarded.
Are there any downsides to amd cpus with nvidia graphic cards?
Any advantages from intel cpus considering both processors are in the same league?
I'm used to the classic story of intel cpus being the best, why are AMD ones so popular? Is it the better cooling?

I currently own a laptop and three 1tb 2.5" hdds, is there a way to use them as internal hdds for a PC?

Could you please recommend a case that is small or of moderate size? I'd like one that wouldn't be too hard to travel with once a year(live in japan, sometimes travel back and forth).

are wireless mice good yet? i've seen somewhere sometimes ago that wireless mice were almost as good as wired mice. is that true? what do you guys think?

>>61024901
Only stupid people do it that way.

>>61024911
i5-4690k. I just trashed that build. As you can see the only thing left is the mobo. Sold the 290x on it for 50% of the price I bought it for despite it being 3 years old and out of warranty. Took every I could salvage out. Mobo is busted and couldn't post. Waiting for a new mobo, a new case and a new PSU before I try revive it again. Temps are good.

>>61024953
only the high-end like Logitech G900 can be considered "almost as good" as wired.

>>61023843
>>61023974
>>61024357
>>61024414
>>61024767
>>61024837
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vkXCWX
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vkXCWX
Updated version.

>>61024933
>Are there any downsides to amd cpus with nvidia graphic cards?
No.

>Any advantages from intel cpus considering both processors are in the same league?
Better single thread performance.

>I'm used to the classic story of intel cpus being the best, why are AMD ones so popular? Is it the better cooling?
Cause Intel shat the bed and AMD finally produced something good.

>I currently own a laptop and three 1tb 2.5" hdds, is there a way to use them as internal hdds for a PC?
Yes. Just get the appropriate mounting bracket for 2.5" HDDs.

>Could you please recommend a case that is small or of moderate size?
Define Nano S

>>61024842
>>61024857
Let him buy an i5.

>>61024993
change mobo to asrock pro4 and pick 3000mhz ram and you're good.

>>61024993
Get 3200 mhz ram
You don't need 850W
If you want to get a window case, consider spending for a good one.

>>61025020
why? It's terrible value for the money
>4 cores/4 threads
>current year

>>61025039
Terrible value for terrible poster, I don't see the problem.

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>>61024933
>Are there any downsides to amd cpus with nvidia graphic cards?
No
>Any advantages from intel cpus considering both processors are in the same league?
The Intel CPUs have slightly stronger cores and hit higher frequencies, but that's irrelevant to the vast majority of workloads
>why are AMD ones so popular? Is it the better cooling?
More cores at a lower price, more power efficient, better heat dissipation, much better stock cooler, overclocking unlocked on all CPU

Let me take an example about something you use. In this picture, the R7 1700 scores 18,91 frame per second in this specific x264 benchmark. It's a CPU that costs $300, comes with a pretty decent stock cooler and can run on a $60 motherboard if you want. Then, much lower, you get the 7700k: costs $315, doesn't come with a cooler, and needs a pretty good $120+~ motherboard to run well thanks to it's high clocks. Why does it cost so much? Because it's 4 cores at 4.2 - 4.5 GHz and Intel decided that for some reason, that was worth $315 without a cooler. Meanwhile the R7 1700 has eight cores at 3.0 - 3.7 GHz. This is why Ryzen is so popular, because Intel has been jewing us for years and AMD came in with a great architecture and went very aggressive on the pricing.
In your case, anything Intel is retarded as you'd need to pay much much more than an AMD build to reach the same level of performance. Video editing and encoding makes a massive use of more cores, so does heavy multi tasking (which you will do without a doubt while game designing), so does 3D modelling, so does compilation. The only thing Intel has going for it is the clock advantage now, but even then they manage to fuck it up with shitty heat dissipation making their 4.3+GHz CPUs reach 90°C and above temperature spikes pretty easily.

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>>61025039

What should we shoot for in 2017? Not trolling I'm honestly curious and looking up build a new pc pretty soon maybe.

>>61025024
I'll have to save my money for all that. I only have $1000 and most of that is taken up by other things.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GQ63Gf
Updated.

>>61025125
AMD Ryzen 5 1600 (6 core, 12 threads)
B350 chipset motherboard
3000/3200 mhz ddr4 memory (8GB or more)

>>61025136
you don't need 16gb ram, just faster 8gb will do fine and you can easily upgrade in the future.

>>61025125
too soon to upgrade man

>>61025125
overclock this cpu. NOW.

>>61025136
Do you really need a 850W PSU?
https://outervision.com/b/zMkmkf
This is a rough calculation of how much power you need.

>>61025187
he's reusing his old psu see >>61023843

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What's the most compatible and best gtx 1080 card I can get for my pc I'm going to build? Idk if I can change the 1070 for a 1080 and it be compatible with this rig. My friend made me this list. But tell me the best gtx 1080 card name for gaming I can use for this rig.

>>61025175

To what? I never overclocked before. I have a 212 evo. I don't want that much more heat.

>>61025206
this whole build is fucking terrible.

>>61025112
>>61025012
Thank you very much for answering.
I'll post my build once it's finished, I feel quite certain about all the parts now, thank you!

But I still have a doubt about the following:
Why should I go for a R7 1700 and not a R7 1800X?
Yes the R7 1800X (from what I see) includes no CPU cooler but would it's longevity and future performances for games in 1 - 2 years be worth it?
Or would I be better off getting the R7 1700 and eventually buy a new processor in a couple years time?

>>61025206
Please don't buy that.

>>61025206
Ditch the i5, cpu cooler & motherboard, go R5 1600 with a b350 motherboard
Spend $10 more in the hard drive to get twice the capacity (1TB), games are really heavy these days (doom & BF1 50GB, GTA V 70GB)
Get a bigger capacity SSD if you can
For the GPU it depends on your need, a GTX 1080 is a waste of money for 1080p gaming, you can settle for a GTX 1070. MSI and Asus are pretty good GPU coolers brands, i'd avoid EVGA because of the exploding cards

>>61025187
No I do not need an 850w psu I have one and it works so I am using it.

>>61019148
> Not Ryzen

Literally why? Get a R7 1700 at that point.

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>>61025218
>Why should I go for a R7 1700 and not a R7 1800X?
It's the exact same CPU but lower clocked, you can always overclock the R7 1700 and reach similar or even better performances than a stock 1800x

>>61025218
If you can afford a R7 1800x why not but you aren't going to use that extra juice much.

>but would it's longevity and future performances for games in 1 - 2 years be worth it?
Any current generation CPU will last you 3-4 years easily unless you are pushing the limit of gaming. Even if you buy intel.

>>61025210
>has unlocked cpu
>has motherboard that allows overclocking
>has an aftermarket cooler
you already spent ~100$ on something you're not using.
average overclock for 4690k is 4.5GHz, but of course you may not hit that. google a guide on how to overclock. it's really not that hard and it's almost impossible to kill the cpu if you're following a guide.

>I don't want that much more heat.
that's what you have an aftermarket cooler for.

>>61021857
Update your BIOS, the first generation of Ryzen boards had a few memory issues that have mostly been fixed now.

Also why the fuck are you overlooking in the first place? These processors will already go above and beyond in almost all applications, I don't see why you would even want to overclock it.

> Have R7 1700, hasnt even hit 100% once yet other than a Prime95 burn in test.

Like you don't HAVE to overclock it, but try playing with the voltages if you must.

>>61025295
i dunno man multiple ffmpeg brought my R7 1700 to it's knees more than once

>>61025295
>I don't see why you would even want to overclock it.
yes i wonder why anyone would want FREE PERFORMANCE INCREASE.

people overclock because ryzen cpus are unlocked and because they can. this isn't intel where you need to shill extra $$ on """"premium"""" mobos and unlocked 4/4 shit.

>>61025236
O ok btw just wanna know what I can get out of 1000$ but since it's my first pc and I'm not so smart lol I just want a pc that can handle ultra settings and some 4k and vr . Idk if you mind making me a list of parts I should buy but I would deeply appreciate it.

>>61025342
4K is very GPU hungry, even a GTX 1080 ti has trouble doing it.
>Idk if you mind making me a list
Yes i do mind. I already told you what would be better for you, i'm not gonna do all the job for you.

Which GTX 1080 Ti is recommended?
In some videos I see the Gigabyte Aorus ones being recommended but I read in a few places including this thread http://www.overclock.net/t/1627238/gigabyte-aorus-geforce-gtx-1080-ti-owners-thread that they have a lot of issues.

>>61025521
Asus Strix or MSI gaming

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Wow thank you to whoever told me to overclock my 4690k.

Almost completely removed my stuttering issues in bf1. I played it safe and overclocked to 4.2 and now it's smooth as butter. Saved me an upgrade!

>>61025713
and they still sell 4 cores 4 threads locked CPU between $180 to $200 today, what a bunch of fucking jews

Not building exactly but I bought a laptop from Amazon yesterday from a new American brand. It's called Eluktronics. Has anyone from /g/ ever tried them for fun? I spent about $1.299 without tax because they are based in Delaware so there's no sales tax. And reviews everywhere are really positive.


Originally, I was going to buy into an ultrabook because I'm selling my desktop and desk and my monitors to make room for me newborn baby and fit the needed things. I needed a laptop for portability to go from room to room. But after spending 3 days of looking at ultrabooks, it made me cringe inside really hard to think I would be paying an absurd amount of money (I would have spent up to $1500) on a razer stealth. Again, I didn't want to spend this amount of money and know I could get better hardware so I caved into a slightly bigger and heavier laptop for better performance.

do i need to reinstall the os after a bios update?

>>61025739
>Eluktronics.
never heard of them. Hope it's got good specs. I have a brand new Dell gaming laptop and it was about $750 after discounts (i5 7300HQ + GTX 1050 4GB)

>>61025740
os stuff has nothing to do ever with bios updates
answer is no.

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Been considering making a hackintosh because Winshit is getting annoying and I don't like all of the spying crap.

However Ryzen is looking really nice for the price right now. I use Linux 90% of the time except for certain programs(Lightroom and Ableton Live). Still looking at Intel because it has better compatibility for hackintosh.

Right now I'm running
>FX 8320
>8GB RAM
>GTX 970

I'm thinking of getting a Ryzen 1700 since it's supposed to run cooler. Is the 1600 worth looking at? I do occasionally edit pictures, video and record audio. Definitely want to get 32 GB of ram though.

>>61025740
No

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>comfy orange case LED's

>>61025761
That's a good deal for that price. One of the things I was looking for in a build was to at least have a 512gb ssd. I didn't feel like ordering one separately and installing it. The laptop I bought has 4 slots for ram and supports two m.2 slots and comes with a install kit which is cool so it's upgrade friendly.

Link is the laptop:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01MT7P0QJ/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8

>>61025881
Here's the laptop I got.
http://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/productdetails/inspiron-15-7567-laptop/dncwf513s

>>61025713
np dude. try to push it a little harder, even just to check what is max oc for your chip.

>>61025923
The product page doesn't load for me. It just gives me a link to intel processors.

Rx 480 8Gb for 220 euro.
Yes or no ?

>>61025923
hardware canucks gave the Dell a Dam Good Value award.
>>61025961
that's odd.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xe0cHo_VC7k

>>61025768
>Ryzen 1700 since it's supposed to run cooler.
1600 and 1700 are the same chip, 1600 only has 2 disabled cores.
only get 1700 if you're sure that you can benefit fully from 2 extra cores.

>>61025966
YES fucking jump on this deal right now

>>61025966
Do it.

>>61025966
Which? Reference?
Regardless, you can resell it at a higher price most likely

>know someone who sell an i7-4790k+Z97+16 GB DDR3
>200 bucks

Worth it?

>>61026274
That's not bad at all

>>61026274
I'd do it

>>61026274
Worth it provided everything is working

>>61018741
7700k is better at gaming

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>>61025362
Ok how about this?

How viable is it to create a file server that I can turn on via remote wiring that I store inside a metal case so wifi can't access it that I can hide inside my wall and only access via a hidden lan cable so I can safely store my dank pepes and anime and only use with like powershell or some other remote server interfacing? I'd like it to basically not be able to touch the internet at all.

>>61026424
That's good, probably the best you can get for 1K outside of sales
Do you already have an hard drive at hand though? Because 240GB is very, very small for gaming.

>>61026424
i5-7600k is better at gaming

>>61026480
>>61026424

Is there a reason not to get an M.2 ssd? They're only slightly more expensive and way faster, we're talking like 5 times as fast.

>>61026480
240GB is enough. You only need to keep 1-2 games on your SSD and the rest of them on your HDD, then just move them around with Steam.

>>61026424
>That RAM
Read the sad story of this anon.
>>61022377
>>61022460
>>61022493
>>61022532
>>61022571

And please check that your Mobo supports that model or you are going to be fucked and forced to clock at way lower speeds.

>>61026506
People yesterday were just saying the 1600 is better because it doesn't spike and drop frames since it doesn't run at 100% CPU constantly or something. I'm tired of getting memed on both sides, which one is actually better?

How can I improve my post times? I've got a 1600, MSI b350 pc mate, and an 850 evo.
I've disabled the unnecessary boot drives, and gone into msconfig and turned the time down to 0.

Is there anything else I can do?

>>61026542
R1600 is better in your price range.

>>61026274
Fucking nice, I'd get it in a heartbeat.

>>61026542
look up benchmarks, the 5600k is better, people like the ryzen cause it's a catch all and it's good for things not-gaming related

but the autists on here will tell you to get it even if you're only planning on gaming

>>61026561
Is Fast Boot on?

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>>61026538
What about this ram?

>>61026538
Yeah, same happened to me, but I can at least reach 2666 out of 3000 on my AsRock AB350m Pro4

Hey guys, I don't really do a whole lot of gaming, but I want a really beefy machine to run a lot of VM's, etc on and do some computationally intensive stuff. If I get a Ryzen w/ X370 Mobo what is a *decent* GPU that movies/TV would look good on and games of the Dota2 caliber could run at high/max settings? Those are really the only graphically intensive things I do

Do you need the WiFi antenna that came with the motherboard to utilize WiFi at all?

>>61026542
Watch benchmark videos and decide for yourself.
I'm very happy with my Ryzen 1600 build. I've barely taxed the cpu while gaming and see no need to overclock. Rarely gets past 50% usage so the temps are low and the Wraith Spire never gets loud.

>>61026587
Just look for inexpensive RAM, pretty much the opposite from what you posted. Make sure that it's around 3000MHz, then check your mobo QVL memory support list on their webpage and check if that RAM ks supported at those frequencies. If so, get it. If not the find another one. Rinse and repeat untill you find one

>>61026538
>tfw my ram is not on qvl for mobo but still runs at 2933.

>>61026513
M2 is the form factor, it has nothing to do with speed
What you are thinking of is NVMe which is much faster but also much more expensive, and does not benefit the average person or gamer at all.

>>61026542
Don't listen to any retard telling you to get an i5 when video evidence shows it's a bad idea
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m
Just watch these videos and make your own opinion

>>61026587
Go to your motherboard manufacturer website and check the supported list. Not enough people do this and PCpartpicker absolutely doesn't warn people of this issue. I feel like this should be in the OP especially since the AM4 motherboards are new and hence more finky with what type of RAM they support.

So here it is: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YwHYKZ

Is there anything in this build that I should change asap?

What CPU cooler should I use?

What SSD is recommended?

>>61024764
>>61024793
>>61025012
>>61025112

>>61026649
Lucky you. Not so lucky for some other anons. Not a risk I wanna take.

>>61026583
Yes sir. Once I hit the boot screen it's very quick, but it takes longer than I'd like to reach that point.

>>61026682
You got money. Just get the best money can buy.

Noctua nh-d15
Samsung 960

>>61026599
If you're doing very intensive computational stuff you might want to jump up to Threadripper once it comes out.

And for the movies and light gaming, maybe a RX550 (if you can find one) or a GTX 1050. Look at benchmars for both. Maybe even a GTX 1030, it can so 4K playback. But i'm not sure about the light gaming deal

>>61026666
the only games ryzen does better on, do your own research

I have a R5 1600.

What GPU will get me a solid 144 fps in CSGO? I'm using a 460 right now with a 1080p 60hz so I'm not sure what to buy first.

>>61026542
>People yesterday were just saying the 1600 is better because it doesn't spike and drop frames since it doesn't run at 100% CPU constantly or something.

Yeah, i mean even this random guy >>61025713 was getting stuttering problems in CPU heavy game on a 4690k and he had to overclock it to solve these problems, so it's not like it's something we're saying for the lulz.

>>61026702
Nothing much you can do. Try disconnecting stuff you don't need from your CPU so it POST faster.

>unbox corsair v550 psu from amazon
>it has a screw in the cage that keeps rattling

so what now,will the screw explode when the psu fans start turning?
is the screw from some component that got loose and the psu will fail to start?
will it fry my entire system?

any ideas

>>61026724
1080

>tfw two weeks ago I considered selling my used rx480 on eBay since they're going for >$330 and they're were brand new GTX 1070's on Amazon for $360
>now those are all sold out and the cheapest new 1070 is like $450

Will i ever not miss the boat

test

>>61026721
>Ryzen does better in these CPU intensive games because it's not starving for more room, therefore you should get an i5 for rocket league!
It's not doing better just because it's these specific games, it's doing better because 4 threads are not enough for these games and the CPU ends up being a bottleneck, hence why the 7700k is still miles ahead of the Ryzen CPUs in these games: it's not the engine giving the advantage to the Ryzen architecture, but the engine being so CPU heavy it needs more than 4 threads to work with or it won't have enough room.

>>61026643
I'm a different anon. I'm wondering how to spot good ram and I've done a bit of research. I'm not sure what the listed specs actually mean though because people seem to just completely ignore the listed speeds and run on something different. I'm convinced that companies bump up the "clock speed" in order to bait retards into buying shitty ram.

This is like the only ram I could find that had near 3k clock speed and had a cas latency below 14. Their was one pair with 3k clock and 14 cas latency that was also a corsair dominator platinum which seems to be their enthusiast line for ram.

I'm not strictly a gamer and I'd like to have fast ram that will compliment a Ryzen 5 1600, an EVO Pro 500 gb M.2 SSD. I feel like its highly important to research well and make sure your components aren't going to bottleneck eachother. I'm worried that the CPU might be too shitty but from what I can gather the Ryzen 5 1600 essentially IS an enthusiast CPU that had faulty cores disabled. It seems to still have the same bus interfaces and cache and shit thats important for matching the SSD and Ram.

>>61026724
CSGO is CPU not GPU.

>>61026749
>buying corsair psu's
What did you expect?

>>61026724
The 1600 is only a bottleneck on CSGO at around 280fps.

So any card that has a benchmark over 144fos on csgo should do

>>61026749
RMA
I have no idea why people receive a faulty item and want to play around with luck.

>>61026792
wrong, it's a combination. having a top tier CPU and a 560 won't give you as much fps as the same CPU and a 1080ti

>>61026792
it was the most sold PSU on amazon.de and also the cheapest how bad can they fuck up on a psu.learned my lesson desu

>>61026799
will i have to pay shipping costs for RMA?

>>61026792
>CSGO is CPU not GPU.
His CPU already guarantees him he will reach well over 144fps, so now he's searching for a GPU that will reach this framerate constantly

>>61026817
If you bought it form Amazon, you're all covered. Just talk to their top notch costumer support and they'll guide you trough

>>61026778
makes sense, thanks

>>61026817
>will i have to pay shipping costs for RMA?
Amazon will cover it.

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>>61026820
>>61026809
>His CPU already guarantees him he will reach well over 144fps

Not necessarily. I'm on an OC'd i5 which is way stronger in CSGO, I'm capped at 200FPS and sometimes hit 100% on all cores. My GPU is asleep most of the time in CSGO even at 1440p.

>>61026611
self-bump

>>61026738
Disconnecting from the cpu?
Not sure I follow you. What would I disconnect?

>>61026905
I mean disconnect stuff from your USB ports before you boot.

>>61026881
you must be playing all ultra?

>>61026943
Yes, all highest other than 2x MSAA and the bullshit settings like vsync, mblur and fxaa off.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zBYyd6
Pls critique
>X370
>K7
>1700x
I will be overclocking to 4.1, that's why I opted for a more expensive board. Also I needed a wifi card and the board has one integrated.
>2hdds
The 1TB one will be for image and file history backups.
>1080 Ti
placeholder for Vega
>750w PSU
Overclocking headroom
>2017
>optical drive
Also ignore the "other" section.

>>61026930
Oh, I'll give it a shot. I only have my mouse/keyboard and an external amp/dac, didn't think that'd affect things.

>>61022110
Can someone post a comparison that doesn't use a fucking gtx970?

>>61026980
You don't need to buy thermal paste. The cooler has paste pre-applied.

>>61015032
1440p 144hz gaming.
7700k or AMD?
All my research elsewhere says that the 7700k reaches those higher refresh rates better than ryzen.

>>61026980
>1080ti
>ryzen

Why are you going Ryzen on a gaming build, my good friend?

>>61027081
If all you care about is gaming the only real choice is the 7700k, Ryzen simply can't compete.

>>61026980
Looks good, anon.
Just that I'd go with the AsRock Taichi X370, check the recieww to see if you like it.

Also, maybe you want to opt for the Fractal design Celsius AIO? I think it has AM4 compatibility out of the box

>>61027094
Already bought the 7700k.
The OP suggested 7700k for higher refresh rates until a week ago. Then it was removed. Then added again. So i'm wondering if there is new news, new drivers or something that justify the suggestion of ryzen for those objectives. I didn't think there would be.

I just find it bizarre that the OP removed that part once again.
I'm as much of an AMD fanboy as anyone else, but not to the point of unjustified shilling

>>61027081
7700k better for gaming

anything below = ryzen

>>61027134
>The OP suggested 7700k for higher refresh rates until a week ago
It's not for higher refresh rates, it's literally just any game under any circumstances. Games don't care about multi-threaded they just want strong cores, and sadly thats probably not going to change until DX12 gets broad acceptance or some shit.

I'll be happy when the day comes where Intel's flagship is actually faster in games than the i5 which is 1/10th the price.

>>61027075
That's bullshit but I believe you somehow.
>>61027094
Moar coars moar tasks. This is not a purely gaming build.
>>61027104
I'll check both of them out. I would want to get the cooling solution from the same manufacturer of the case. I have doubts the H110i's radiator would fit properly at the front of the R5.

>>61027200
>AsRock
Same guy here, but the last time I built a rig (2010)
>ASSrock
was the prevalent meme. Is this still true today?

>>61027200
http://www.tomshardware.com/answers/id-1896371/corsair-h100i-thermal-past.html
Why would I lie to you?

Will getting a Cryorig H7 for my 1600 make a difference in temps? If so, what is good thermal paste?

>>61027221
My Assrock Z77 board only has three fan headers I can control, and has atrocious feedback/noise in the rear I/O mic input port.

0/10 would not buy again.

>>61027094
Please stop giving advices to people, you make really stupid assumptions and give really bad advice as well

>>61027263
nah hes right, 7700k > ryzen for gaming

>>61027263
Please stop recommending Ryzen for gaming you dumb shill.

http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-versus-amd-ryzen-1700x-14-game-cpu-showdown_192508
http://www.pcgamer.com/gaming-performance-of-ryzen-7-vs-core-i7-with-geforce-gtx-1080-ti/
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2017-amd-ryzen-7-1800x-review
https://www.toptengamer.com/amd-ryzen-7-1700-vs-intel-i7-7700k-1800x/

>>61027261
I actually fried an ASSrock board (one of the phases blew up, I don't really recall) when I tried to overclock my 955 BLACKED edition so I'm still kinda biased against AsRock

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>>61027328
>955 BLACKED edition

>>61027293
>>61027295
Yeah, and and the Xeon Phi 7290 is much better than ryzen for video encoding too, does that mean you should waste money on things that you do not benefit from?

The idea that if you're gaming, you automatically have go with a $320+~ Intel CPU is very retarded. Yes, the 7700k hits higher framerate, no that doesn't make it a better choice in any way.

That retard isn't just claiming that the 7700k is superior to the Ryzen CPUs in gaming, he's claiming that getting Ryzen for gaming is retarded. That is a very bad advice in all possible ways.

>>61027328
Sounds like you got blacked.

>>61027365
So someone should buy a CPU that's worse in the one thing they want to do, just because it's better in things they don't care about?

>man my framerate in games is shitty but atleast I can boot into windows 0.5 seconds faster
>man it sure is nice to know I could video encode if I wanted to

You're retarded. In the real world the 7700K is more than adequate for any high-performance consumer/gamer setup, no one here is recommending it over Ryzen for workstation tasks.

>>61027468
this

the fact that people are recc'ing ryzen for workstation then recc'ing it for gaming is retarded

i7-7700k = gaming
ryzen = workstation

>>61027399
Thankfully the board took all of the load and none of the other components got fried.

>>61027468
>So someone should buy a CPU that's worse in the one thing they want to do, just because it's better in things they don't care about?
No they shouldn't, which is exactly why they should save money by getting a $200 R5 1600 instead of going with a $320+ 144hz CPU 7700k when they don't have a 144hz screen
fucking moron

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>>61027542
Shoo.

>>61027578
>Muh Intel

git da xeon
babbylake get out

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>>61027578
>>61027496
>>61027468
>>61027295
>>61027293
Alright lads, you seem to know much better than me. I made a 1080p60hz build, how did i do?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WxvzLD

Fucking morons

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>>61027639
Shoo, shoo.

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>>61027697
I said shoo.

>>61027697
>1080
>1080p60hz
>500 dollars SSD
What

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>>61027578
>>61027699
shoo!

see, i to can cherry pick benchmarks and act like a fucking retard

>>61027697
being this autistic

>>61027720
>results within margin of error in DX11/DX12 titles
>chalking it up as a win

Ryzen shills really don't know how this works, do they?

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>>61027715
hurrdurrrrrrrrrrrr

>>61027736
No one is shilling anything but you, recommending a 7700k for fucking 60hz builds

>>61027717
What are you, poor?

>>61027737
WOW

A whole 0.15% performance improvement in one game? Surely this is not within the margin of error and is worth it.

>>61027751
>I-ITS BETTER YES
>BUT IT DOESNT MATTER

Hey guess what retard those results are averages, you think it's a solid 80FPS+ all the time?

>recommending a 7700k
>in this time and age
you fucking whot, why would you buy a fucking dead chipset when you could get a better 7700k for the exact same price?

>>61027767
Yeah. I am poor. Which is why I made a 1080p60hz build. Fuck off moron.

>>61027769
>>I-ITS BETTER YES
>>BUT IT DOESNT MATTER
See >>61027697
I sure hope you have an NVME SSD in your PC otherwise you must be fucking retarded

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>>61027791
>literally ignoring the benchmarks because you are a faggot
>try to be a retard and talk random shit

Childish.

>>61027845
I don't know man, you're stupid enough to use a Fallout 4 benchmark to compare CPUs, and you keep doing those faggy as fuck
>shoo
And you call me childish?