Besides proprietary and non-free, find and post legitimate flaws

>>61003756
It's literally useless. Artists all use SAI.

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gimp can do anything it can, without cancer bloatware

and for drawing you would use SAI anyway

>>61003756
>grow grow grow your bloat
>clearly not a meme
>terribly terribly terribly terribly
>malfunctioning machine

>>61003820
>Artists all use SAI.

(citation needed)

Expensive as shit. My boss (who loves Photoshop) has told me that he'd rather learn GIMP than buy Photoshop again.

>>61003838
This, GIMP is the superior software.

>>61003756
Only one I can think of, The Creative Cloud

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>>61003862
citation is the post you replied to

Affinity Photo exists.

>>61003756
They including nodejs.

lol @ renting software. I've used and help people use photoshop for over 10 years, gimp is better. inkscape is also superior to illustrator. the fact that they're both free and free is just icing on the cake.

>>61003862
>(SAI-tation needed)
Sai is bretty comfy though/

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>>61003756
I've been using a pirated copy of CS6 for years. I've no real complaints. One could argue the fact that user made scripts for even the simplest tasks like exporting layers to files are massively quicker and more efficient than the official inbuilt functions, but doesn't the fact they allow custom scripts for that purpose negate that? Alsuuuuu

>all of these gimp shills
top lel Gimp is absolute trash

>>61003756
>Adobe
>bloated cloud botnet shit

>>61003820
No artist with actual skill uses sai. Only anime dweebs on pixiv.
t. Concept artist

>>61003756
everything after CS4 if garbage

>>61003756
Ex art student reportin in.
Changed my studies to CS 'cus i wanted to achieve something in my life.
I have used it for 4 years and i have come to a conclusion that It's a dumb program for "creative(((LOW IQ)))" people.
It's unstable, unprogrammable and you cant assign shortcuts for your own liking.
Adobe is the fat kid that borrowed you his powerranger figure for 2 dollars for a day

>>61004059
>inkscape is also superior to illustrator
haha you're funny Anon

>>61004555
Have your ever used the fucking pentool.
Spoiler alert its fucking garbage.
the ony good programs that adobe made that where actually good is macromedia flash and after effects.

>>61003756
>Besides proprietary and non-free, find and post legitimate flaws

Besides being poor, hungry, underdeveloped, corrupt and AIDS riddled, find and post legitimate flaws of the African continent.

>>61004590
I use Illustrator almost daily since 2012 dude
Illustrator is not "that great", but it's by far the best vector editor software.
InkSkape is just a shitty SVG editor

>>61004633
I'm not saying inkspace is better.
I'm just saying that illustrator is shittu.
>edting vectors with pentool since 2012
i feel sorry for you as a sysadmin

>>61003756
doesnt have gnu support

>hurr hurr wine
runs like ass if at all

>>61004654
>I'm not saying inkspace is better.
>"inkscape is also superior to illustrator"

Also I never said I was using only the pen

>>61004673
That's the other neckbeard not me.
>Also I never said I was using only the pen
Good good

>Gimp
>SAI
Can your photo editing program do this?
https://youtu.be/v91p8upSzH0

>>61004740
No but i dont need that shit because i dont make fake hotwifing pics of my wife

>>61004417
I've never fapped to "concept art"

>>61004740
wtf I love rental software now

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>>61003838
>>61003880

>>61003756
opens too slow, even on SSD..

>>61005052
Literally takes 1s for me.

>>61003820
>It's literally useless. Artists all use SAI.
Are you retarded? I use SAI + Photoshop.

>>61005052
Lol loads up in 2 seconds for me.

>>61003756
>having to pay for the license every year when I can just pay for SAI or Clip Studio once and keep using them forever.

>>61003756
It's gotten kinda bloated over the years and the interface needs a re-design, it looks really dated.

>>61005165
>what is piracy for 0.00$ Alex

>>61005191
OP wanted flaws. Isn't being jewish a flaw?

>>61005210
No? Because you know that development continues in spite of you since large companies need to adhere to the subscription model, therefore the program you use for free continues to get developed and updated. Everybody wins.

>>61005223
>being a dirty kike
>not a flaw
you're not making any sense m8

>>61004417
>t. Concept artist
What do you use? Honest question.

>>61004314
>>61004339
>>61004352
>>61004365
you've just discovered photoshop, we get it.

>>61004417
How does it feel knowing you could be making more money drawing furry scat porn

>>61003756
Paint shop pro had better key bindings and had easier ways to do certain things, too bad corel fucked it up to the grave.

SAI is shit.
Gimp is shit.
Use either Krita, Clip Paint Studio or Photoshop.

>>61005245
Photoshop like 99.9% of folks in the industry.

>>61005342
I'm not into degeneracy just for an easy buck.

>>61005065
>>61005153
I have the latest cc bloated version... its also cracked, maybe it tries calling home.

>>61005488
C6 here, loads up instantly. Any reason to upgrade?

>>61005440
>Photoshop like 99.9% of folks in the industry.
Really? I'm a photog rather than a drawing artist, but whenever I did try to draw anything in PS I found it frustratingly clunky, shit and useless (and that with a tablet which I use for my LR/PS work). Which made me think there was some secret magical painting software that all actual digital artists use.

>>61004590
nice english third worlder

>freefags are so deluded they think software being proprietary is a flaw

>>61005488
CC 2015.5 Used to open fast, but now after a few months it takes longer than After Effects.

>>61005550
Where the fuck do you think you are?

>>61003854
Underrated kek

>>61003756
Proprietary and non-free are the only flaws you need to know.

>>61003756
expensive

>>61005506
not really.. it shows your recently edited files on startup and it has guids which show distance between elements.

dont know about other features.

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>>61005577
Don't know how the options are called in english, but I have these parameters in "preference > general" and it's quite fast.
The new menu is what slows the start.

It was written and is maintained by a bunch of indians in Mumbai.
If you haven't noticed already, every single Adobe tool is unnecessarily bloated piece of shit.

>>61003756
takes like 10 minutes to load wtf

>>61005711
Yeah, i reckon so too. I just measured, and it took about 1 minute to fully open now, compared to just seconds some time ago.

>>61003756
PSD file format is a convoluted mess, like any Adobe file format.

>that thing where you try to delete a layer but it deletes the mask only

>>61003838
I too like retarded shortcuts that only make sense to inbred autists with a taste for mental torture trying to figure out what a shortcut is without googling it

Honestly, you should use whatever you are comfortable with using within reason. I happen to be comfortable with using GIMP 2. I can use Photoshop but I honestly am more comfortable with GIMP 2. At the end of the day, the artist is not beholden to license philosophy of all things.

>>61005765
You mean that thing when you have the mask selected as your active element and not the layer? Yeah, fucking baffling how it prioritizes one over the other.

I really like the guides it shows you for spacing out evenly. If it only had some way to analyze font from images that would be insanely great.

>>61005848
There are websites that do that.
>>61005818
It's quite annoying really, especially when the layer mask is just empty and I click the layer trying to select it.

>>61005867
>There are websites that do that.
Yeah, i tried couple of them but they've failed me.

>>61003756
>paying a subscription
>knowing Adobe has terrible security and probably keeps your information in plaintext

>>61003756
Subscription.
More expensive and slower than Pixelmator and Affinity Photo

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>>61003756
I use Gimp because I have a real job and am not tech-illiterate.

>>61005879
You can try asking the type nerds over here if it's really important to you
http://www.typophile.com/fontid

>>61003838
it can't open cr2 files

I wonder if there are programs like the gnu coreutils (sed, awk, head, tail...) for image manipulation. Or something like an scripting language for efficient image manipulation.
It would be very easy to do intelligent bath processes that way

>>61003854
Lol

Some of the filters still don't have preview modes.
Other than there isn't that much about PS that bothers me.

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>>61003756
Nice goal post shifting. It's non-free and expensive when GIMP can do 99% of what it can do, if not more.

>>61005914
>has a real job
>can't afford the superior option

>>61006240
You can do a lot of things with ffmpeg and imagemagick.

>>61006557
>implying you can afford it as well without torrenting it

>>61006630
Jokes on you, I'm unemployed.

>>61003756
It takes ages on initial program start to connect to the online libraries for fonts and whatnot which easily adds a minute to every start.
Also they redesign the interface for no reason at all, making it less efficient for veteran users to use it.

>>61003756
Doesn't run on free as in freedom operating system.

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>>61003756
<-

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>>61004740
just needs one plugin
took the image as a screenshot from that video, dont poke fun

just use it with AMT from painter

works fine for me

>>61003854
Nice.

>>61005515
Nah, it feels like that at first for everyone who is barely beginning to draw with it but you get used to it. It's better and easier for digital painting imo than it is for drawing even though you can draw really well depending on your skill level. Luckily there's a ton of settings to tweak with brushes and generally lots of cool features to make the painting/drawing really easy and seamless for us.

>>61007660
i didn't know this one
but it only shows that on some images

>>61010302
Yeah, I noticed too, some of them I could paste, for instance the 10EUR banknote works, lol

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>>61007660
>femanon being retarded yet again
Sasuga.

doesn't work on character sensitive macos

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This confuses and angers the GIMP user

>>61003820
Literally fucking kill yourself. Faggot.

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>>61003838
Does GIMP have these? Legitmate question

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>Only one undo
>The only other option is to use step backward
>You move to a previous layer instead of just undoing the brushstroke

>No stabilizer
>Needs Windows Ink for pressure sensitivity
>Windows Ink is the most annoying piece of shit ever designed
>No floating color wheel
>Can't save brushes with color textures
>No perspective rulers
>No multipage management

It's fine for photo manipulation, but you would have to be retarded to use it for art.

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>>61003854

Excellent.

>>61010978
>Windows Ink is the most annoying piece of shit ever designed
Wintab is worse and it's essentially owned by Wacom.
Windows Ink works with any hid compliant tablet.

>>61011237
>Wintab is worse
Why?
and it's essentially owned by Wacom.
And?
>Windows Ink works with any hid compliant tablet.
Why would I buy something not Wacom?

Windows ink:
>Worthless feedback features like ripples and showing you which keys do you press on screen
>Records your handwritting and sends it to microsoft
>Flicks and gestures make it useless
>Press and hold on a fucking drawing tablet
>Needing to change the registry and use hacks on PS to turn it off
>"B-but you can turn it off" You need to mess with the registry and microsoft turns it back on anyways

Windows ink is so bad that the only way to make the Surface pro usable is by installing wintab.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3gG8TlUVyU

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>>61011353
>wintab drivers
Wintab is a dll that implements Wacom's proprietary standard for receiving pen input. It has little to do with actual drivers.
The issue that guy was having is probably because he was using an old version of photoshop that doesn't support Windows Ink. I think it changed in CS6.

>Why would I buy something not Wacom?
Because competition is good and until a good competitor shows up Wacom will keep selling you shit tables for twice their actual value.

>You need to mess with the registry and microsoft turns it back on anyways
I wanted to say that there's a single place to disable all of that but it actually seems to be missing in the latest Windows 10 update.
They probably fucked something up in the never-ending setting migration process.
Those options are still available via group policy though.

>use hacks on PS to turn it off
You need to use hack on newer Photoshop versions to re-enable Wintab support.

>>61010086
SAI is the only program that can capture the artist's line dynamics, because Photoshop, GIMP, Krita and all other similar assorted garbage are too bloated and laggy and shitty.

>>61003854

oh lordie, had the first genuine lol moment in a long time..

>>61003756
Bloat, Useless features, Subscription model, has been overpriced for years.
Meem painting (Seriously, the "real brush stroke" thing or whatever is awful compared to Corell painter etc..)

Personal: not into it's painting engine and takes too long to get common features(mirror).
Not going to say someone "SHOULD" be using anything however (just don't bother with gimp)
Whatever is best for your workflow is what is good, just try things out.
Suggest ZKrita to most people.

>>61003838
>content aware fill
>lens correction

there is a bunch of shit gimp does worse than PS or doesnt even offer, but those are the two biggest

Gimps color to alpha is great though

>>61005236
Oh my god, we get it, you're 16.

>>61003756
>not on linux
>bloated
>ultrajew subscription shit
I'm never upgrading from CS5, there's no reason to.

>>61003838
draw a circle in gimp in under 5 seconds

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>>61003854
fucking marvellous

>>61003756
>renting software
>slow as FUCK
>terrible company
>buys its way into prominence

>>61003756
I'm not a fan of installing most plugins twice (for 32&64bit).

>>61003838
>"Besides proprietary and non-free"
>Says it's non-free and recommends GIMP
wew lad

>>61003854
What did I miss here?

>OP asks for legit reasons besides proprietary and non-free
>All the replies are about how it's proprietary and non-free

Never change, /g/