/pcbg/ - PC Building General

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>tfw 60fps in Doom 2016 on ultra settings
>tfw $200

>>61003589
yea bro doom is a lightweight. But congrats you'll probably able to gayim several modern titles at 30fps maxed or 60fps with some sacrifice

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>>61003589
>thinks his sleeper is good

Cute lil GPU you have

I have some shitty, low frequency corsair RAM in my rig right now. DDR3, 16 gigs, 937 mhz. 11-11-11-32. Looking to replace it.

I'm looking at this:

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231589

G.SKILL TridentX Series 16GB (2 x 8GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 2400

Now I know it's good RAM, but I've never purchased RAM with heatsinks before.

I'm also planning on getting a Nocua D15.

Does the monstrous D15 interfere with RAM heatsinks? I guess worst case the heatsinks are removeable and i'm not overclocking the RAM so I most likely don't need them anyway.

Can anyone comment?

>>61003609
Yeah Witcher 3 chokes on max settings. Still shocked at how much this thing can handle though

>>61003614
That's sexy anon

Fuck that. I just pumped my 290x numbers in a calculator and I can make 2k a year if I mine. No wonder these shit are selling like hotcake. Time to start mining.

Flat out, what is the best processor and what are the specs one looks for in them?

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This thing is old, discontinued, and runs hotter than a MOTHERFUCKER. Is it any good for mining?

>>61003532
1.3600, around 40 idle and 75 stressed.

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>>61003524
>he readded the 7700k
wow wonder who is behind this shill thread

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Any suggestions for this build? I'm a bit unsure about the CPU

https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/MXrZ7h

Looking at getting a CF791 Monitor at 3440x1440, 100Hz refresh rate. Plan on mainly gaming with it, all the latest games and potentially use it for some CAD work at a later date.

>>61003836
Just get the 1080ti or wait for Volta

>>61003815
i re-added the 7700k last thread because it's still a CPU that you might want at times, namely 144hz gaming

Are the Microboard Korean monitors a scam?

I remember buying one of these cheap Korean monitors like 10 years ago and it died after 6months. The quality seems to have come up quite a bit in the videos ive seen. How much of a gamble are they these days?

Im specifically looking at the M340CLZ ultrawide

>>61003614
Neato

>>61003907
>>61003815
The 7700k shits on the Ryzen on every game.

Shoo shoo shill.

>lower voltage
>get 1219cb as opposed to 1243cb last time in cinebench
Is this just a coincidence?

>>61003617
>Does the monstrous D15 interfere with RAM heatsinks?
Only tall ones, and RAM frequency doesn't matter anymore. The gains from higher speeds are negligible.

>>61003931
Those monitors are so cheap because they failed QC and got binned

>>61003931
Dead pixels, dead pixels everywhere.
It's part of the condition of sale.

Is a 850 watt psu inadequate overclocking a i7 7820k and a 1080 ti? One review lists the power consumption for the overlooked 7820k at just under 400 watts so it would be 700w for just the cpu and gpu. Would I be better off just getting the 6 core for the lower wattage?

>>61004035
Overclocked*

>>61004035
Just be safe and get the 1000w one. You are already spending a premium on PSU anyway.

>>61004041
>>61004035
I already have the 850w I forgot to mention

>>61003972
Yes, and the 1700 shits on the 7700k in x264, 3D rendering, code compilation, VM, etc etc
Your point being?

>>61004098
>x264, 3D rendering, code compilation, VM
Nice video games

>>61004114
You're not in /v/ you fucking retard

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Just bought this monitor. I was debating getting a TN or an IPS monitor but went with TN because of the stuff I heard about backlight bleed, etc.

My question is: If all ips panels have bleed/glow etc., why does my phone screen not suffer from this?
It's an LG G5 and has an IPS LCD display, but in low light on a black screen I don't have any of these problems.

Is it because my phone screen is much smaller than a monitor or what?

Can I use a sata revision 3 Ssd on a motherboard that can only take revision 2.
Before you ask what a stupid question that is. My local guy I got to buy all my computer parts cheap doesn't understand that they aren't compatible. Or doesn't understand what I am explaining to him.

>>61004120
Some people make good PCs solely to play video games.

>>61004161
And there are dozens of perfectly capable and great CPU for gaming besides the 7700k.

>>61004169
But none as good as 7700k.
Fuck off moron.

>>61004143
Back Light Bleed is absolutely lottery.

>>61004174
>But none as good as 7700k.
Therefore everyone and their mother should buy a 7700k and a 1080ti
Fuck off you retard

>>61004192
>Therefore everyone and their mother should buy a 7700k and a 1080ti
If they have money and if they want to play video games.

A lot more people play video games than do 3D rendering, code compilation or VM.

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>>61004174
>HUDURR, THERE IS NO CPU AS GOOD AS THE XEON E7-8890 v4 FOR VIDEO ENCODING, SO EVERYONE DOING VIDEO ENCODING SHOULD SHELL OUT $7174 FOR THIS CPU
You have a pretty massive brain retardation

>>61004202
You sound poor

>>61004196
>if they want to play video games.
Because the Intel® i7® 7700k is the only CPU capable of doing video games. However, if you are aiming at doing VR gaming, then only Kaby Lake-X® and Skylake-X® are able of achieving such feats, goy.

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>>61004208

>>61004158
Anyone?

>>61004211
Anyone who can buy a shitty gimmick like Vive or Oculus has more money than senses.

>>61004247
Just because they can doesn't mean it's not retarded

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Spent all day looking up stuff and I bought all this. Didn't realize how small a mini itx was but it was only decent high end mb I could find with wifi.

>>61004254
Buying a 1080ti is retarded. Playing games is retarded. Having anything more than a CRT is retarded. Having an SSD is retarded. But look where we are.

>>61004281
>not using a 1080ti to watch motherless videos
fucking scrub nigger.

>>61004273
Save money by getting a Noctua D15 or D15S, which will also performs slightly better than that AIO.

>>61004288
naw senpai, I wasn't shilled enough earlier for it. I didn't like the big bulkyness of it and I decided to just stick with the theme of corsair since they had majority price/performance. From a lot of reviews they seemed to be overall best with their customers.

>>61004295
It seems big in pictures but when you have it in hand it seems tiny as fuck and isn't anything as heavy or sturdy as people make it out to be

>>61003589
CPU, RAM, and storage?

>>61004305
I'll check it out in the store then sometime. Best buy has them, I didn't like the color of the fans either. I don't understand why companies can't keep with black/white or atleast offer those colors.

r8?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/KMswvV

>>61004325
Noctua's color are pretty much for brand recognition now

>>61004357
Get a b350 motherboard like a MSI B350M PRO-VDH or such, the price is pretty much the same but it allows you to overclock

>>61004357
Good luck getting stock/10

>>61004357
>16GB of RAM
I highly doubt you're a YouTuber/steamer. If you are get out.
>RX 570
Have fun waiting an eternity for them to restock.
>Canada
Reconsider moving.

Hi im looking forward to build a new homeserver, but Im a little bit low on budget so I could buy 2 old xeons and put them on a dual cpu mobo. Any recommendations for cpu, mobo etc? Btw for the OS ill choose centos or gentoo

>>61004377
Good catch, totally forgot
>>61004389
The ram is for work, involving music production and video editing, also whats wrong with Canada?
>>61004387
Yeah

>>61004441
>also whats wrong with Canada?
Everything

why is my PC suddenly not detecting my 2nd monitor?
They both function separately, but when I connect the HDMI one, the DVI one shuts off and goes to stand-by mode. It doesn't detect it as secondary display

>>61004460
Go into device manager and make sure both monitors are detected. What GPU?

I just want to play more or less newer games for cheap price, what GPU should i buy?

From what i understood after couple hours in google:
960 2gb is apparently as good or better than 1050 2gb?
1050 4gb is best option, but a bit too pricy for me
960 2 gb is not really that much worse than 1050 4gb?
RX 560 seems to be worse than 960 even? Why even bother with it...

So my question is, should i buy 960 or 1050 2gb? I don't really need ultra settings or something.

>>61004480
1050

>>61004469
on monitors, only one generic pnp monitor shows up.
It's a 1050 ti, and I used to have them both work before.

>>61004491
>and I used to have them both work before.
Test both monitors seperate and individually.
Make sure the cables are connnected and try a new one.
If not, then your GPU is borked.

>>61004443
As opposed to?

I like it

>>61004573
Inshallah brother

>>61004488
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137059

Ok, so, probs gonna buy this one. Any more suggestions\advices?

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>>61003688
no custom bios. started getting a few artifacts at -50 mv but temps dropped to 79 deg c. made 25 usd so far. have 6 asus dual 1070s on the way.

>>61004098
Nice try Rypoo shill

That's like 5% of the entire PC userbase in 4chin

The rest build PCs for vidya

Go hang yourself

>>61004627
Go take a look at the catalog and proceed to leave this board you fucking retard
>>>/v/

>>61003524
Typical 12-year old's fantasy of being good enough for Apple. Don't you secretly wish...
Still, your collection of fanbois are here to support you with their day dreams and so that's fame of a sort, even if it does smell unwashed and leave stains wherever it goes.

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>>61004661
I think you posted in the wrong thread, anon

>>61003617
Do they even make DDR3 that slow? Are you sure it's not 1866MHz?

This will be purely for gaymen and watching movies. How did I do ?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/zhRDsJ

>>61004701
waste of money

>>61004701
You are going to need LEDs to go with your case senpai

>>61004709
is it the 7700k ?
>>61004724
I cant really see my case with my current desk so I didnt bother.

>>61004743
Then why are you getting a glass case?

>>61003972
>The 7700k shits on the Ryzen on every game.
>5 fps more max fps equal "shits on"
>while 1700 has higher min and avg frame rates
Shoo shoo shill.

>>61004746
Oh shit, I'm retarded. Thanks anon.

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>>61004743
>7700k

The only people who dis the 7700k are the ones who can't afford it. It's like the fox and the grapes.

>>61004743
and you haven't stated that you were doing high res or refresh rate gaming so for regular gaming this is a waste of money
Also this case already includes 3x 140mm fans so you're wasting money by going with these be quiet pure wings

>>61004782
i could afford the 7700k but i went for an R7 1700 because i'm not gonna get an inferior CPU just because some memers online are shilling for their favourite brands

>>61004793
He is going to change his case I think. He already said he can't see his case and he is getting a glass one.

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>>61004764
This guy is just trying to justify his purchase.

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i-i-i-is DDR4 actually standard now? Is it what most of you use?

>tfw poor
>tfw using same ram for years now

Is it a big improvement?

>>61004793
Well if I am being honest I'm tossed up between 4k and 144hz. Which you think is more worth it ?
>>61004807
And I did change the case, its the same one just without glass

>>61004815
DDR4 is the standard because all the new mobo are DDR4 only.

No. Minimal improvement if you are still using old CPUs. Some people here are still rocking 2900k with DDR3 which still beats the new Ryzen.

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>>61004801
>>61004811

>>61004158
IIRC, it should be backwards compatible, it'll just run at the lower speed.

>>61004815
DDR4 isn't something you choose, every new motherboard and CPU only supports DDR4

>>61004846
>rocking 2900k
>beats the new Ryzen
This is how you recognise someone with brain retardation

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>>61004801
>I-i-i-ii could reach those grapes if I tried. They are sour anyway these gooseberries are sweeter.

Okay fox

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>>61004877
i don't know man the 7700k is inferior at anything i do
this is /g/ after all

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9YyGgL
primary focus: high end htpc. 4k streaming ready with minimal moving parts for low noise and maintenance. budget~$1000

>>61004701
You don't need 16GB to play video game. 2x8GB will suffice, anything more is a waste. Your board lets you quad channel anyways so if for whatever reason you think "Man I could use 16GB of RAM" in the future you can get more. You'll need a different CPU, though, and a 7700k may perform the best (arguably) but for its price it's not worth it.

Unless money isn't a problem and you love to burn it, in which case disregard everything. You can buy 32GB of RAM for all I care.

>unironically shilling Jewtel trash
>>>/v/

>>61004905
>2x8GB
Meant 2x4GB.

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>>61004887
Yea. I heard that Window excel really take advantage of all those cores.

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>>61004893
>streaming
Get an R5 1600 instead of the 7600, 6 cores is massively better for video encoding (streaming)
You can ditch the cooler if you do that as the 1600 really doesn't heat much and most importantly the cooler is very quiet. I'm fairly sure it's because the fan is pretty low RPM but regardless noises should certainly NOT be a problem on the 1600's stock cooler.
The 3 additional fans do not make much sense as the parts you picked will not heat nearly enough to justify getting three fans, and it will probably end up noisier as a result.

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>>61004931
This is the technology board anon, plenty of us make use of 8+ cores

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>>61004953
I see a MAC in your future. The Desktop PC will become a thing of the past. And it's only saving grace? Gaming! This when /v/ will annex /g/. WE will become /vg/ HAHAHAHA

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b en using an MSI mobo for the last couple years. how are the x370 gigabyte mobos?
http://www.microcenter.com/product/476021/AORUS_AX370-Gaming_K5_AM4_ATX_AMD_Motherboard?ob=1
ima stick a 1600 in this one if i get it

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URGENT HELP NEEDED

When I OC my r5 1600 and OC fails, I can't get to BIOS and need to reset CMOS every time it fails to OC, wtf is this shit?

I'm on latest BIOS on MSI b350m pro-vdh.
GPU is an old wreck until my 1080 arrives:
radeon 5750 sadface

>>61005045
>sadface
Please go and stay go

>>61005045
what do you precisely mean with "i can't get to BIOS"?

>>61005072
PC turns on, but there is no image on lcd, monitor stays turned off and del doesnt bring up bios and pc just hangs there until i reset cmos with muh screwdriver.

>>61004945
Currently the only 4k streams are netflix and amazon which require kaby and edge to work. If Zen supported 10bit HEVC, I would be on that.
Cooler and fans are to replace all standard fans with matching low db units. I will obviously use custom fan curves and only ramp them at higher temps so it should remain effectively silent. I could spring for the 7700 but I don't even max my current 2550k

>>61005116
>netflix and amazon which require kaby and edge to work. I
Oh shit, i forgot about that DRM

>>61005045
>>60994920
>sadface
Leave once you're done.

>>61005178
>>61005058
What is sadface? Is this some reddit or facebook meme or something?

>>61005192
It some emoji. Only girls or faggots use them.

>>61004273
>t. cucksair fanboy

>>61005192
It's the "typing like a faggot" meme.

>>61005196
>>61005211
oh i see
that guy should have a crying anime reaction folder, it would be much less gay

Ryzen 1600 + GTX 1060 6GB

Can I play stuff at 4K 60fps ? I'm mainly interested in Blizzard games and most triple A games I don't mind playing at low-medium settings if it means I can stay at 4K 60fps.

For programming I think it is superior than having 2-3 screens, thoughts?

>>61005211
you forgot to include one.
>>61005201

>>61005238
Maybe on WoW, not so much OW. You might be able to manage on Low, but its really worth just throwing in a 200 extra dollaroos to get a 1080 if you can afford 4k screens

>>61005238
No

>>61005238
>>61005269
And yes, multiple screens are good for programming.

Fuggg help me /pcbg/, just finished my 1st build ever, I know nothing about PCs and all seems to be going well, then I find out when I hit the power button the whole thing turns on, but for a solid 45 seconds my mouse, keyboard and monitor are undetected. Only after that does my screen come on and I can access the BIOS & see the windows symbol. For 45 seconds my fans just power up, then slow down, then speed up, then slow down and finally speed up and everything works.

Also when I put my PC to sleep, I can't wake it up by pressing mouse/keyboard, and when I press the power button, the whole damn thing just restarts and goes through the whole of the aforementioned process again. Drivers and shit are all up to date and I haven't messed with OC or BIOS. MSI B350 + R5 1600X if that helps.

Everything else is working fine, though.

>>61005297
Update your BIOS

>>61005297
>>61005316
This, or bad mobo if this doesn't work, just send it back.

>>61005269
I play OW on low-mid settings on my GTX 960 laptop and I'm at 70fps constantly. Also WoW on mid-high pulls 60fps constantly.
The 4k screens are cheap now - 300 euros for 28" 4K 1ms

I would love to put in a 1070 at least, but wont that mean I have to get a better mobo/cpu/psu then to support it? Sorry I can't into hardware
>>61005279
IDK I have a 4k screen at work and my laptop and only use the 4k one. I have my IDE opened in the half right then two browser windows on the left.

What's the recommended cooling solution to get a 6600k to 4.7-4.8ghz with good temps and noise? 212evo/ CryoH7 aren't quite going to cut it here.

>>61005340
Noctua

>>61005333
Post your whole build build

>>61005297
what power supply do you have?

>>61005360
His PC powers up and works fine. I highly doubt it is a PSU issue.

>>61005297
>For 45 seconds my fans just power up, then slow down, then speed up, then slow down and finally speed up and everything works.
That's a reboot loop. Try updating your bios and beforehand reset the bios settings (even if you didn't touch anything).

>>61005316
>>61005330

Yeah I suspected needing to update BIOS too. Anyone have any experience with MSI Live Update 6 for BIOS updating in Windows? Apparently a few years back it was bricking people's boards, not sure how reliable it is now tho. Or I could do it the USB way, of course.

>>61005360
an EVGA something gold-rated 650W, I doubt power is an issue, I'm not running multiple GPUs or anything.

>>61005403
USB is the tried and test method. It is simple and you will be hard pressed to fuck it up.

>>61005381
I tried restarting again, this time it only looped once (i.e fans fast, slow, fast), but I'll look into updating the BIOS for sure. Is there any particular reason to reset beforehand? Won't the update just override everything anyway?

>>61005356

Its prolly shit since I don't know what I'm doing.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dpbB6X

>>61005418
>Won't the update just override everything anyway?
If you're getting problem then you have to ensure that your computer is the most stable possible (which means stock settings) before updating the bios because a problem during bios update would mean dead motherboard

>>61005409
Got it, thanks man.

>>61005420
Replace motherboard with MSI B350 TOMAHAWK (Gigabyte is shit)
I would switch out the PSU for an EVGA brand
The 4k monitor is 2x more expensive than one at the same size and same quality of 1080p

>>61005443
Makes sense, will look into it. Many thanks.

>>61005420
>>61005463
Also make sure you get a modular or at least semi-modular PSU, loose cables look like shit and can get caught in fans

>>61005463
at the german amazon its 300 euros, I'm really on the fence with this, should I get two 1080p monitors or one big 4K one...

thanks for the suggestions, i take it rest are fine?

>>61005505
Its really up to you, I have been using the same 768p monitor for years and I don't mind it

>>61005499
can you give me a suggestion of one? the EVGA one the other anon suggested seemed to be all FULL modular or a few semis without price listed?

>>61005525
also can I just put the 1070 in this build and not change anything? https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/8GGrQV

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>tfw bought 7700k in march before heat issue shit started popping up
>Stays cool on air even during gaming, 50C

I feel lucky honestly and I haven't had my completed build for a week yet.

>>61005525
>>61005536
EVGA SuperNOVA 550 G2, 80+ GOLD 550W, Fully Modular
Yes

>>61003524

i have a 4600 with cheapest mini atx and no case fans

everything is cool and quiet

What is the goto 1080p@60 GPU now that the 570 is being bought up by memecoin miners

>>61005595
290 4gb.

>>61005595
1060 6gb

>>61005616
Muh housefire

>>61005546
all 7700ks run hot, what the fuck are you talking about? the thermal paste on the die doesn't make perfect contact with the IHS.
Also, how do you have a cpu since march and not manage to boot it until mid June? A half dozen RMAs or something?

>>61005659
I had only bought a couple parts, the rest I bought later and immediately built my rig. Also pretty damn sure mine isn't running hot, calm down and breathe.

>>61005638
Only the reference cooler ones. Yeah even the aftermarket ones run pretty toasty if you overclock them, but it's not "housefire" bad.
>>61005617
also seeing a smaller price spike due to 4/580 sellers replacing their cards.

Not sure it's the right place to ask so excuse me, but could you tell me which case fans should I buy for a master case 5? I checked the cooler master fans and there's no 140mm one only 120mm ones. How exactly does it work? Thanks.

I've been running the same old Dell U2412M for almost 5 years. Love it, but I'm looking to break the ~1080p@60 gaming boundary with a new monitor, and if needed, a new GPU. Is jumping to 4k the thing to do at this point or some resolution along the way? Recommendations for 144hz panels with <8ms response times would be appreciated.

I'm in the US and budget is pretty open, I'd love to find a gaming monitor I can use on the daily for another 5+ years.

>>61005681
The problems are mostly when aggressively overclocking and using more conventional air cooling instead of a giant noctua tower or water cooling. There are some reported random temp spikes as high as 91c for very brief time periods, but those are mostly harmless imo.

you know someone is a pleb when they get watercooling in 2017

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Using this on my 2013 amd processor PC,runs cs go very well. Black ops 3 ok

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>>61005773
Probably will do very little or if any overclocks, got a hyper 212 with 2 corsair fans on it. Pic related

>>61005013
Haven't had problems. Most of the features i don't even use but i still felt like splurging. I'd recommend a B350 if you want to save a couple bucks.

My ram wont budge from 2133 on msi b350m pro-vdh, what gives? I've got corsair 3200 thats on qvl. Tried with 1.4v, nope...

>>61005790
>>61005788
>>61005572
these aren't questions, or anything anyone can really comment on. What were you expecting?
>>61005769
I'd answer you in depth if I could mate but all i personally know is that you need a truckload of gpu power for 4k gaming, and 144hz 4k panels aren't really that available yet. 1440p/ 144hz, however, there are plenty of panels to buy. I think 4k is still a little 'early adoption' phase.
>>61005808
You bought a "k" series cpu, a cooler with some pricy extra fans, and presumably a "Z" series motherboard. You owe it to yourself to bump the clocks up at least a little bit. otherwise you wasted a good $80ish total.

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What's the best 1060 to buy with a budget of 250-80 euro?

>>61006201
What are your options?

>>61005707
Should I ask it in the /sqt/?

>>61006237
The Master Case 5 already has a 140mm at the back and at the front. You can fit one more 140mm at the front, and another one if you remove the 5.5" bay
But this isn't needed in any way, the two stock one are good for airflow and you really don't need more. You can always get a $10 second one at the front if you wan't but it won't improve airflow much. If you add a third there's a risk your airflow ends up messed up as a result (i personally get noticeable hot air pockets in my Fractal Design Define R5 with 3 intake 1 exhaust)
In conclusion you don't need to get any fan. If you want to get one still then get a $10 non-pwm one. Do note that the case doesn't seem to have any built in fan controllers or sata to 3pin cables like many cases have, so might need to buy fan splitters if your motherboard doesn't have enough headers

>>61005564
dude sick thanks

>>61006201
None. They're either over € 300 or out of stock.

I need to do a mobo swap cause mine shit the bed. Can i use the same ssd to boot off of? Going to a motherboard from the same manufacturer using all the same parts

are there good 4k screens yet with hdr or should i wait a couple more months? i currently have a 27" 1440p dell, ideally i'd want something like that but with hdr.

any suggestions?

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>>61006666
Fuck off, satan. Tell your mining demons to give us back the GPUs or i'll tell god.

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i wish noctua also made gpu coolers

how come my r5 1600 only goes to 3.7ghz on 1.4v and my ram only goes to 2933??

Why is this happening to me??

Why cant I have 4ghz cpu with 3200 ram as stated on msi website I will suicide myself in head

>>61006744
>3.7ghz on 1.4v
holy shit poor luck

>>61006764
This must be my mistake man, there must be something I'm forgetting... no way I lose lottery this way...

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>>61006776

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What should I do for a home server? I want it to be as silent and low power consumption as possible.

>>61006801
How much power do you need? Would a RasPi do?

>>61006776
should have got the 1600x bro. 1600 is recommended because it's a good value. It's good value because the included heatsink is good enough for a /mild/ oc, or left at stock it operates cool and quiet. YOU wanted perfect though. 1600x is better binned. It includes the shitty heatsink because they assume you will oc heavily and use aftermarket anyway.
As to the memory, try updating bios, see if that helps. Ryzen memory compatibility is pretty shit, but they are working on it.

I think my graphics card is bricked. If I fresh install windows I can get an image but as soon as I install graphics drivers and restart I get a black screen after the "starting windows" screen. Put my dad's card in my machine to see if it changed anything and it works with and without drivers so I'm like 90% sure that proves the card is fucked.

What's the best bang for my buck? I'm between jobs so I don't have a ton of money right now but will be VERY well off once I start work in August. Just need a card to tide me over until then.

>>61006784
I updated BIOS, I went 1.4 and tried 4.0 no OS, tried 3.9 no OS, tried 3.8 AIDA64 crash, tried 3.7 stable and working.

Brought voltage step by step to 1.3375v.

Tried XMP3200 for RAM no OS, tried XMP2933 for RAM no OS.

Manually got to 1.3v, 2933mhz, 16-18-18-36.

Cinebench score 1250, but I'm not satisfied, this is nightmare, 500 euroshekels for a nightmare...

>>61006817
Pi doesn't really have a lot of storage potential. Doesn't it?

>>61006836
3.7 on 6 cores for $200 (+$40 cooler i presume?) is still pretty awesome anon. Looks like you got really unlucky and your 1600 hits the voltage wall much sooner, but at best with a 1600x you'd get 300 more mhz which really isn't that big

>>61006833
I heard there are some advanced things I could do with ohm resistance and other things, but I don't know enough to fiddle with that, could someone guide me through this?

>>61006850
How much storage do you need? Pi has USB ports, you can always connect it to external drive.

>>61006893
I'm looking to be able to connect 2-4 sata drives and connect to gigabit Ethernet to share files across lan.

>>61006499
I didn't ask for an explanation, I have the case, I know what fans are in there. That's why I'm asking how should I buy more if cooler master only sells 120mm fans. And no. I have the front fan at the bottom to better cool the hdds and the spreader type gpu heats up the middle too much during [spoiler] mining.

how the fuck is anyone supposed to build a pc if GPUs are overpriced right now?

>>61006904
USB-to-SATA adapter, maybe? Or you can always use external drives.

Pi might not be ideal for that purpose, though. Maybe look for AM1 or Atom chips?

>>61006859
The way you overclock the Ram can also affect how high you can get the CPU apparently. Some people managed to get an extra 200 MHz with the right combination. Not sure about the specifics though. Maybe google for some guides.

>>61006943
wow, i bother taking my time to make a detailed explanation and all you can respond with is "i didn't ask for an explanation", even though it provides useful information, throwing my effort out of the window in the process
way to motivate people to help you

>>61006695
anyone?

My first build, all i want it is playing lol, some home office stuff and browsing.

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/cgZ6bj

Dont know if i should get a ssd.
Also which monitor should i get?

>>61006695
If you get the same exact motherboard model, you should be able to boot off the SSD, just go into the UEFI and set the boot priority.

>>61006953
if intel use intel graphics for a little while. They're good enough for Blizzard games and a lot of indie games. If amd... pay up or pray I guess.

>>61007099
get a G4560 instead of this i3, it's just as good but much cheaper
ditch the cooler, those things don't heat that much

>>61007115
>if intel use intel graphics for a little while.
Kaby-Lake X and Skylake X do not include iGPUs

When's the best time to buy RX 580?

Was planning on getting all of my parts this month, so I'm wondering if I'll have to wait much longer

>>61007112
not the exact model, but going from an msi B350 mate to the msi b350 Arctic. They both use the same drivers

>>61007143
>When's the best time to buy RX 580?
everything but right now since the mining craze is still alive and going strong

>>61007137
No-one should be buying those anyway.

>>61007170
Yeah, but i just wanted to clarify that no, not every Intel CPU has an integrated GPU

>>61007099
you have the right idea, but I suggest the following changes :
>pentium g4560 and an appropriate motherboard
>ditch the cooler. Unless you reeeaaally hate noise. If you have headphones on you won't hear the intel cooler.
>2 x 8gb ram instead
>250gb ssd if 250gb is enough storage for you, or 120ish ssd plus any cheapo hard disk for storage.
>you can probably get away with a gtx 1050

>>61007168
That's unfortunate.

When do you think it'll go down? I'm new to buying fresh electronics, so I have no experience in this

will GTX 1070 get cheaper in a month or two?

>>61007204
>2x 8gb ram
oops I meant 2x 4gb. So still 8gb but get two sticks

>>61003524
i just built a ryzen PC but now on my b350 MB from MSI (toma) there is the IGPU LED that keeps being lit up

how do I turn it down ? Obviously Ryzen has no iGPU so I don't care about the LED showing me that there is none ...

I've noticed that when I put my PC to sleep mode, and turn it back on that LED goes away... great but the performances in game get bad like there is high fps but flickering and flashing everywhere

I have an RX 580 Strix from anus btw

>>61005707
Go for Be Quiet or Noctua if you want to spend a little more.

>>61006744
>tfw 3.9 on 1.36
Sorry anon, can't all be winners.

>>61007006
Sorry for hurting your feelings but I have the case, I really don't need that explanation. And you didn't answered the one question I had, what fans should I buy since I can't find 140mm case fans from CM. You mentioned "10$" fans which is absolutely not helpful. And I explained why l need more fans. Well, whatever.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/VQx4VY
Any advice on my shitty frankenstein rig?

>>61006835
Grab a used card off CL. If you want to do some gaming get a 1050/1050ti/RX560.
If not, grab the cheapest card you can find with an hdmi.

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>>61007431
>You mentioned "10$" fans which is absolutely not helpful
My whole comment was based on the assumption that you had at least the knowledge of basic informations. Making that assumption was a mistake, but yet you tell me that you didn't need my explanation that provided, although unrelated, useful informations.

For $10 you can get a 140mm non-PWM fans from known brand pretty easily such as be quiet or other brands. It doesn't matter if it's not cooler master, the hole position are standardized: any 140 or 120mm fan can be mounted at the front
Do not get a third intake fan unless you can add a second exhaust fan, otherwise your airflow will most likely be worse as i said in the explanation you did not need.

>>61007099
>My first build, all i want it is playing lol, some home office stuff and browsing.
A Toaster will do. Here's a complete build: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/dXpfZ8
The cooler is optional, only buy one if you want better temps and care for noise because the stock Intel cooler is loud as shit.
Since you only want to play LoL, do some office and """"web browsing"""" you can get away with no HDD at all, 250GB should be enough and if you want more storage you can always add a HDD later on.
Ignore the 64€ shipping costs. Mindfactory has the best prices and it's "Midnight sale" where all orders above 100€ get free shipping.
>Dont know if i should get a ssd.
Unless you budget doesn't allow for it you absolutely want a SSD but SSD prices are retarded right now, therefore i chose the 850 EVO, it's like 5€ to a cheaper but much worse performing one.
>Also which monitor should i get?
24" 1080p 60Hz. The BenQ i chose is very nice, 129.99€ is acceptable and you can find that monitor used for cheaper.

>>61007465
any advice on how to upgrade? or are you gonna build that?

>>61007220

no

>>61007431
you don't need to buy from cooler masters. Pc parts are mostly standardized and interchangeable. Go to any electronics retailer in your region (like Newegg or Amazon) and just search up "140mm computer fan" and buy whatever you want.

>>61007573
mostly just stuff I should upgrade? I'm not sure where to go from there, it handles most games I play extremely well.

>>61007591
Maybe throw in a 2TB hard drive just for the change? Considering you just stated that it performs well at what you do there's no real reason to do anything. You can maybe add an SSD in there that will get carried on in the next build.

>>61006744
holy shit im on 3,7ghz and i have 1,25v

how is this difference possible ?

try putting the tension in auto and stress test to see at how much it maxes out

>>61007612
I might get an SSD for my OS then, because it boots slow as shit.

>>61007562
Not the anon you're replying to, but I will take your sage airflow advice.
My case (200r) came with a single intake and a rear exhaust.

I upgraded to a Noctua intake and moved the stock fan to the top exhaust. That all the case fan cooling I'll ever need?
Probably gonna upgrade the exhaust fans to Noctua or Be Quiet for max silence down the line.

>>61007214
>When do you think it'll go down?
When Etherium becomes vulnerable to ASIC

>>61007562
You made an explanation that I already knew, but you missed this out. I needed this information. Why didn't you post this initially instead of that other paragraph?
Anyways, it's fucking strange that CM doesn't sell the same fans that are in the case separately.
Thanks anyway.

>>61007591
I'd consolidate the data on the 1TB HDDs to 2 TB HDDs.
Beyond that, I'd change the i3 to the newest non-k i7 that boards will support, using the i3 to update the uefi if necessary.

>>61007782
>Why didn't you post this initially instead of that other paragraph?
Because you didn't specify your usage and you assumed you were the average joe that doesn't have an housefire at full load constantly, and two 140mm fans is already great for the average joe. More than that is a risk and generally a waste of money.
Considering you were considering having more than two fans in your computer, making sure you had informations about how managing airflow becomes harder the more fan there is was more important than anything as getting worse temperatures is very easy to achieve when you have 3+ fans
I also didn't realise you didn't even know any 140 or 120mm fans could go into the front of the case so i was quite confused with what you were wondering

More importantly, just because someone doesn't give the answer to the specific question you are asking doesn't mean their input and the information they give is useless. People don't always have answers to the question you are asking, but they might have useful information for related things. Just because you don't ask doesn't mean they shouldn't share the information.

How can I make an even cheaper desktop?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/GMx4VY

>>61007873
here's how.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-DG41MJ-LGA775-Mini-ITX-Motherboard-Core2Duo-E7500-2-93GHz-4GB-DDR2-/371988146293?hash=item569c38a875:g:dTMAAOSwrhBZJIUI

>>61007123
>>61007204
>>61007566
Thanks mates

>>61007862
Fine, I made a mistake. I thought someone would simply reply which fan should I buy or that I could use any fitting ones. That's all I asked. Excuse me.

>>61004317
i5 3470
8gb slow junk ram
2Tb seagate barracuda

Literally just bought a $75 used HP and put a 1050 in it

Ey /g/anons, I have the chance to get a RX580 8GB or a 1060. Which should I pick? It will go with a ryzen 5 1600. Average gaming, mostly 3D designing (nothing heavy). Please, shillers from both parties, stay away. I want a humble opinion. Thank you in advance

>>61008051
Buy the 580.
Sell it.
Get a 1070 with the money you earned.

>>61008051
Most 3D designing and rendering software use CUDA acceleration so 1600 6GB will most likely end up being a better choice.

>>61008086
I don't want to do that, speculation goes against my religion

>>61004143
While back light bleed is a lottery and can vary, ips glow is inherent to the technology itself where when viewed from a certain angles the pixels get this silver shimmer and can usually be seen in the lower corners of a moniter from a normal sitting position. Also your right in that because of the smaller screen you don,t notice it on your phone due viewing it usually dead on, while with a monitor the larger it gets and the closer you get the worse the glow becomes.

>>61008122
then get the 580 and use it.

>>61008122
and what religion is that

>>61008151
The one with the commandments saying "behaving like a Jew is forbidden"

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So a Friend of mine wants to build a pc for photo and 4k video editing.
he said he wanted to preferably go under 1000€, 1100 is the most he can do.
his criteria were:
no amd parts
m2 ssd
min 16 gb ram
a case with a window
i came up with these parts which in germany come in at a little under 1000€. prices in this link are usd tho: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/6LXjD8

can i do a better editing rig for this money or am i missing something completely?

not mentioned in this build are 2 more bequiet case fans 120 and 140 mm and the ekl cooler will probalby be replaced by a bequiet pure rock cooler.

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>>61008163
you're getting mixed up between USURY and normal trade at a profit you dumbass

>>61008178
shit config

>>61008178
>build a pc for photo and 4k video editing
>no amd parts
Tell your friend to fuck off

WHAT IS GOING ON

I just activated windows and now my cpu is spiking up and down from 30 degrees to 60 constantly??

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>>61008178
Change to an R7 1700 build
>his criteria were no amd parts
Then he's a fucking faggot and i sure as hell ain't gonna spend some of my time helping stupid faggots and neither should anyone here

Be a real friend and make sure he doesn't spend money in inferior hardware.

>>61008186
Trading is not my job. I just want to buy a part, not reselling it to get a better one. Reselling something without increasing it's value is jew stuff.

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Suck or blow?

I'm building a semi sealed mining rig inside a tote.

Suck pros
>always removes heat
>can direct heat towards window better

Blow pros
>cool fresh air for gpu

>>61008209
What CPU? Show CPU usage graph
Could be thermal sensors fucking up

>>61008235
7700k

Also the screen flickered on and off a couple times

I powered the PC off now

>>61008178
Your friend is retarded, buy him a rope

>>61008246
Need to have a look at CPU usage and average temps before we can make any jugement

>>61008246
>7700K
Should've go a Ryzen instead. Go delid your processor.

>>61008246
Delid.

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>>61008227
>normal commerce is a jew conspiracy
ok

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>>61003524
My current build is-

>AMD FX-6300 @4.5GhZ
>MSI 970 Gaming Motherboard
>Kingston mystery RAM DDR3 4x4Gb @1600Mhz
>Some shitty Thermaltake AIO
>AMD Sapphire R9 280
>Samsung 850 EVO SSD 500Gb
>Seagate Barracuda 7200rpm 1Tb
>CoolerMaster Semi-Modular 750W PSU

and I'm looking to upgrade to

>AMD R5 1600
>ASUS Strix X370
>G.Skill TridentZ-RGB DDR4 2x8Gb @ 3200Mhz
>NZXT X62 AIO Cooler

Just wondering if anyone knows when the Strix board comes to retail and other thoughts, etc. Thanks

>>61008178
Just tell him that he's an idiot.

>>61008204
>>61008223
told him, but he wouldnt move from it.
i wouldve picked a r7 for him otherwise.
he doesnt really know this shit. just heard someone colpain that amd drivers crash on peolpe all the time.

I've been waiting over a month for cheap 16gb of 3000 MHz DDR4 RAM. I'm tired of waiting. Can I get by with 2 GB of DDDR4 RAM while waiting?

>>61008264
>>61008265
>>61008268
Thing is it only started after I activated windows by entering the key

Before that the temps were fine....could it still be the thermal paste?

>>61008318
Tell him some no life nerds at 4chan /g/ board think he is a fucking idiot for buying a Kike7 for video and photo editing, he is wasting his money and getting much shittier performance.
Also
>Unlocked i7
>B250M Mobo
>5400RPM HDD
At least do some research before making an already retarded build.

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>>61008318
then be a good friend and educate him

>>61008284
Mostly for gaming (Civ 5, Battlefield 1/4, CS:GO, Rainbow 6, etc.) as well as productivity such as image editing, light 3D texture work and video editing.

>>61008284
There's already a Strix B350 board. I'd look into that. Still allows overclocking.

>>61008284
AB350M ASRock Pro4 Motherboard and stock cooler are enough to overclock to 3.8/4Ghz no problem depending on your luck, why are you buying an X370 gaming meme motherboard?

>Someone actually wants to buy a 290x which is out of warranty for 250 USD
My god.

>>61008410
>>61008383
Mostly for aesthetics and I'd rather have the maximum amount of USB ports attached to the board itself.

>>61008434
Like I said, B350-F Strix. You wouldn't have to wait long and you've got the same looks. The X370 board adds SLI which I don't think you have any interest in.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132988&nm_mc=AFC-C8Junction&cm_mmc=AFC-C8Junction-PCPartPicker,%20LLC-_-na-_-na-_-na&cm_sp=&AID=10446076&PID=3938566&SID=
https://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?name=MB-SB350FG&c=CJ

>>61008458
I'll have a look, thanks! Hopefully Australia gets these parts soon

>>61008434
Why would you need more than 7 USB 3.0 ports?
Well from ASUS you have X370 Prime and Prime Pro both are really good and less than $150, avoid gaming motherboards since they are more expensive just for having "Gaming" on the name.

Where would I get the operating system? I just did my first build and I'm stuck cause I'm retarded, what do I do now? haven't even turned it on but I'm scared cause I don't know if I did it right.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/9bdnBP

>>61008362
picked the wrong hd here. shouldve been a 7200 of course
and i dun goofed on the mobo. i dont really know a lot about intel chipsets because on amd you can literally oc on everything.

>>61008490
You won't know until you hit the power button. For your what are you planning to do? Do you want gentoo? W10?

>>61008489
I have a number of other devices such as phone dock, drawing tablet, printer and scanner all connected in along with the mouse+keyboard

>>61008530
Well the X370 Prime Pro has
AMD Ryzen™/7th Generation A-series/Athlon™ Processors :
4 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 port(s) (4 at back panel, blue, Type-A)
AMD X370 chipset :
1 x USB 3.1 front panel connector port(s)
AMD X370 chipset :
4 x USB 3.1 Gen 1 port(s) (2 at back panel, blue, Type-A + USB Type-CTM, 2 at mid-board)
AMD X370 chipset :
4 x USB 2.0 port(s) (4 at mid-board)
ASMedia® USB 3.1 controller :
2 x USB 3.1 Gen 2 port(s) (2 at back panel, teal blue, Type-A)
And I dig the "professional" aesthetic over the meme gaming one, don't know if that's enough for you.

>>61008547
Thanks for your help, I'll have a look into it tomorrow

>>61008530
Get the best board available and add usb ports with pcie card later if you need more.

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>>61008530
>>61008547
>>61008489
As you can see it has 8 ports on the back alone, and a bunch more mid and front

>>61008530
dunno about you, but I have a printer/scanner combo that connects to my computer via wifi.

BTW people. R8 my planned build. Snow/ice theme.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LMQXzM

Sup /g/. I'm in need of a cheap ass workstation for Autodesk Inventor.

As far as I understand what matters for Inventor is single thread performance, so I was thinking about an i5-whatever, without spending any money on graphics cards.

What do you suggest? I've looked around the internet, but all results are either too old or too expensive.

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>>61008511
Not Gentoo, just windows 10, Thanks Anon . I'm planning on doing some games, and making sure it last me for awhile , some Auto Cad and SketchUp shit too

>>61008595
Dont get NEX series from EVGA, GQ G1 G2 etc are better.
I hope you can find that 570.
Caviar Black is not recommended over Blue since it's louder, but you already have it.
Don't know about that SSD, 850 EVO is the one recommended here, also PNY.
Rest is fine I guess.

>>61008598
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bbMLgL

>>61008615
For W10 you can get a pirated copy.
Install the OS via the ISO taken from MS site. Activate it using an activator.
Or you can get a legit OEM copy.
Allkeysite sells them for 10.
Kinguin sells them for 25.
Ebay is the cheapest but they are W7 key so you need to install W7 first then upgrade to W10.

>>61008615
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows10
Use this tool to create bootable OS from USB drive, Windows 10 Home and Pro are available from here, buy the key from Kinguin or the Windows keys subreddit.
What I did instead a few weeks ago was getting a Windows 10 Enterprise ISO from mydigitallife and also the Windows Toolkit, followed this https://fdossena.com/?p=w10debotnet/index_1703.frag tutorial to remove all the cancer and I was good to go.

>>61008644
Thanks, but I forgot to say that I can spend up to 500~600 bucks

>>61008629
>Caviar Black is not recommended over Blue since it's louder, but you already have it.
The black is pulled from a pre-built HP I was given. Only thing I could use from it. Not my choice but I have it. I'd have chosen a 2TB Seagate Barracuda for like $66.
SSD chosen for looks since it'll be on display. Sae a bunch of youtube build using it and it was a recommended part.
Plan to wait for prices to go down to normal for the 570.
How's this then?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LTLzLD

So I've decided to build a desktop. This is my plan for my first build and I'm not that knowledgeable about this stuff. So is my build not total shit? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VQHd2R

>>61005901
Guess they aren't just showing off I guess.

>>61006801
HP Proliant Microserver. The current Gen8 can be found on sale regularly, and I believe HP often have cashback deals too. Should retail for about 200-250 euro. There's also the newer AMD X3000-based Gen10 coming out soonish. I don't think that HP has announced a date yet, but they have showed it off. The new Gen10 has a backplane for 4 SATA drives (like the older models), but has two internal SATA ports (one more than previous models).

You'll probably have to spend twice as much money to get a mini ITX server that's about as powerful as the microservers. I can't comment on the noise levels tho. If you must build it yourself, Asrock Rack has suitable boards, both with a soldered SoC, and LGA1150/LGA1151 sockets. Supports ECC memory. Silverstone has a suitable case if you care about storage. LianLi have the PC-Q25, it comes with SATA backplanes, but the sliding rails can be a bit fiddly.

>>61006893
Using a RPI for a storage oriented server seems like a lot of fun. That USB-driven 100 Mbps NIC must be great when you also have to run your harddrives over USB.

>>61008729
here. I fixed it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/K8GrQV

You can make a windows 10 installer USB stick for free off microsoft's website.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzbrhbrejqo

>>61008725
I would say get the Samsung EVO 850 250GB one instead of the OCZ, it's faster and has 10GB extra storage.

>>61008679
lemme see what I can do then.

>>61004273
>>61005201
The case was appealing and the ram was cheaper and great performance. I decided to go with AIO coolers and majority reviews used corsair so that led me with sticking with the theme of corsair since performance and price was pretty good. I just needed a cheap gaming keyboard and its literally #1 on amazon and I didn't feel like looking for more than 10 minutes. So maybe I stuck with corsair a little bit but no matter how much /g/ shits on them reviews are always good.

I need to buy 64 gigs (8x8) of 3200MHz ddr4 ram.
Is there any way I could buy it from some chink website or do I have to stick with local resellers?
Price is the factor

>>61008785
I would, but as I said, it'll be on display, the Samsung doesn't fit the theme looks-wise, and 10GB isn't much for me to care about. I have a 32GB flash drive for that BS.

>>61008653
Wait, is the upgrade still available from older OS? Does it work with 8.1?

>>61008807
https://www.cnet.com/how-to/microsoft-windows-10-free-upgrade-offer-assistive-features/

>>61008797
any reason why you need 8 of them? wouldn't 4 of 16gb or 2 of 32gb be enough?

>>61008806
If you care more about aesthetics than value for performance then go for it

>MSI H97 PC Mate
>Intel i5 4590 3.30GHz
>Kingston HyperX 2x4 8 GB Ram
>WD 1 TB HDD
>MSI GTX 970ME 4GB

gonna add cooler master 212x cpu fan, 2 case fans and 300 GB HDD. im playing the recent AAA games on daily basis which requires great power consumption. which PSU should i buy?

FSP Hydro 600W 80+ Bronze http://www.fsplifestyle.com/PROP172002155/

FSP Hydro 700W 80+ Bronze http://www.fsplifestyle.com/PROP163000553/

also, is surge protector strip enough to protect PSU or should i buy UPS?

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/rRZpkT

V.S.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TtF77h

>>61008841
>FSP Hydro
No

>>61008679
>>61008789
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jCHd2R
I normally wouldn't recommend this processor. It's beyond stupid and shouldn't exist, but you wanted the best single thread performance.

>>61008656
>>61008653
OEM? I have an old Windows 8 key I used when my hard drive died and switched hard drives to get it to update to windows 10? Or if those sites work 10 or 25 dollars ain't too bad .How would I get into bios? Also real question , would I just be able to connect the build to my TV as HDMI then do the rest the same? This is a temp

>>61008871
can you elaborate?

>>61008819
I would like to fill all the slots on x399, plus it's probably cheaper than 4x16

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>7700k
>at idle with absolutely nothing open goes from 30 - 50c every few seconds
>in stress tests max temp is 60c

What the fuck is going on

>>61008890
>I have an old Windows 8 key I used when my hard drive died and switched hard drives to get it to update to windows 10?
You can try it.

>.How would I get into bios?
Read your mobo manual. It is normally del button.

>would I just be able to connect the build to my TV as HDMI then do the rest the same?
Yes you can use your TV as a monitor

>>61008908
https://www.kitguru.net/components/cpu/paul-taylor/core-i7-7700k-temperature-spikes-enrage-users/

>>61008880
Thank you very much anon.

>>61008820
glad we've established that.

>>61008921
Does this actually matter? As long as it doesn't get ridiculously hot like 90c?

Can you rate this build? Is there anything I can do to make it cheaper? I want to buy in the next 6 months will things be noticeably cheaper? Thanks
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Ayz/saved/XXzHxr

>>61008942
That case is top quality shit

>>61008970
I just picked a cheep one what would be a better one to get?

>>61008899
Hydro is an OEM brand and I won't trust them with my build.

>>61008941
Sudden temperature changes are what kill components, that's the worse thing that can happen. A CPU constantly at 85°C is very very safe, a CPU constantly fluctuating between 30°C and 60°C will have a much shorter lifespan. It's horrible.

>>61008982
Antec 302

>>61008905
Thats stupid and definitely not cheaper. It runs on quad channel so there it literally not reason to have 8 sticks unless you want to be a fuck boy. Just stick with 4 sticks. Less things to break and runs cooler.

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>>61009012
b-but i need all my slots to be FILLED by Big Black Ram moduls anon

>>61009008
It costs as much as his ram though if he asking if it can be made cheaper he probably dosent want a case that costs that much

Already have a 500gb 850 evo, how much would I benefit from a m.2 960 evo?
Boot times are already pretty quick, but I'd prefer them even faster.

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>>61009001

>>61009012
Okay so if I went for 4x16, there is still question if there are some asian websites I could buy it from

>>61009041
>i'm trying to be a youtube tech reviewer

literally no one cares and only you will be ever seeing it.

spend the extra money on something that gives it more potential to fail then.

>>61009051
I cannot in good conscience recommend a casing that is cheaper than 40 bucks.

>>61009051
>>61009084
Do they really drop off in quality that much that it isn't worth getting. I wanted to get a cheep one but if they are shit after a certian point I'll spend a bit more

>>61009058
PCI-e SSDs apparently don't improve boot times much if at all compared to SATA SSDs

>>61009104
m.2 is a complete meme

>>61009104
Everyone kept shilling me on this yesterday as well, but I rather just spend the extra $25 for the potential performance of the 960.

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>>61009041
anon, no lewdposting in the technology board!

>>61009104
>>61009114
So is there any point in getting one? Will programs/games run any faster or anything?

>>61009124
Try this

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-275GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSDJ0/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1498060671&sr=8-1&keywords=crucial+m.2

>>61009098
Build quality in cheap casings are cheap.

>>61009098
>Do they realy drop off in guality that much?

Yes. absoolutely. always read the reviews of any product that you're buying, or else you'll end u double spending because of bad components or because something broke.

>>61009142
>So is there any point in getting one? Will programs/games run any faster or anything?

negligible difference, sata 3 ssds are already plenty fast and bottlenecked by CPUs anyway

>>61009142
If you have to ask, not much. It is faster, but you're going to see little to no benefit in everyday use. It's only really useful if you need to edit massive amounts of video or something.

>>61008178
The build is absolute shit.
>no amd parts
Tell your friend to fuck off and buy a prebuilt system if he wants to be a cunt: http://www.xmx.de/shop/

>>61008246
>7700k
There's your problem. Delid and buy biggest AIO you can find or perish in flames.

>>61009188
not the other guy but happen to know where to buy a delid tool from a not a sketchy ass site and not ebay?

>>61009172
>>61009166
Well that's a bit of a bummer, thanks.

>>61009157
>>61009154
Ok good to know would it be worth it to get a case with a built in psu. I'm only getting a 80+ bronze so I'm not worried about efficiency

>>61009071
Can anyone help me with that?

>>61008178
>no amd parts

i'd understand in terms of gpu since radeon is pretty shit, uses more power and requires you to sell your soul to even get your hands on one at the current time but in terms of cpu there is no match for the ryzen series, especially r5 line-up.

>>61009205
In Germany there's Caseking.de but idk about anywhere else.

>>61008246
sounds like your cooler isn't seated correctly. a stock 7700k would never do this. only highly oc ones have temp problems and require delidding like these people keep saying.

>>61004592
Don't really have a problem with muzzies desu

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>>61009253
sure shlomo

>>61009277
Lmao. So cucks do indeed post in this thread.