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Do people find the CLI frightening?

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My wife has never used Linux, came into my room, saw me messing about in the terminal and said "What are you doing, are you hacking something? Are you looking for cp?" [I was actually just looking at neofetch and inxi]

It seems to me that people who don't use computers at a CLI level find the command line intimidating. It looks exclusive, difficult, secretive. Anyone agree that many people just find it ominous and intimidating, and that's one of the reasons for Linux staying in the 2%?
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Yes, it's fucking terrifying, all hollywood movies depict computer hackers with their black hacker windows rata-tatatataing and doing illegal shit and making it look good, most people don't have any real concept of how computers work so they can only assume you're hacking.
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>>60996364
Your own wife isn't used to seeing you use the command line?
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>>60996364
Sadly, yes
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>>60996364
uhhh why is the second thing your wife thinks "you're looking for CP"?
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>>60996364
Pretty sad how short of a time it took us from going to using a terminal for everything to thinking of it as something only used maliciously.
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>>61000339
Because cli's are scary to children
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Why does your wife know you watch CP?
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>>61000339
She's 13
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i personally find it easier on the eyes

less distracting visuals and its nicer with a dark theme while programming at nice and multi tasking

also its extremely minimal and responsive to commands

allows you a greater control over every resource
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The more important question is why CP is associated with computer interest.
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>>60996364
Yes, most normies think the command line is scary. It's actually an extremely simple text based interface. Not hard to understand it after you start treating everything as either a file or a directory.
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>>60996364
CLI is a minimal interface sufficient to get idea working and it is only popular as such. There is no inherent advantage in writing commands without having argument tint and value checking or in text only UI.

Capitalists do not understand that. open source kernel OSes stay below 2% for different reason: they became user friendly (if they did) long after MS was almost monopoly, even MacOS cannot compete well (because of HW restrictions maybe). Nobody tried to make finished user friendly product from open source kernels until relatively recently, long after MS already took the market.

Windows has CLI and bat files too.
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>>61000482
Spotted the communist. You're an absolute cuckold and you are not welcome in the free software community. Go fuck yourself.
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>>60996512
>rata-tatatataing
Holy crap, that one word somehow manages to sum up that trope so eloquently. I'm gonna use that word irl now. I don't care if they laugh.
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>>60996364
>wife
>my
>>60997342
>>61000339
>>61000385
>retards believing op's claim of having a "wife"
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>>61000537
tactactacing better
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>>60996364
yes they find it hard because they're fucking morons and can't read so much input in a small area
if you have them look at it usually they are ok
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>>61000482
>open source kernel OSes
What the fuck does that have to do with anything? That is such a specific and arbitrary criteria I don't even. What the hell are you even trying to prove?

1. the source model of an operating system or even just a small piece of software has nothing to do with user-friendliness.

2. if anything is responsible for the "inaccessibility" of macOS, it would be the userland, which, by the way, is proprietary.

3. yes, many engineers and computer specialists tend to adopt the MIT license if they're doing something informal or insignificant or, but there is plenty of proprietary software for specialists that isn't consumer friendly.
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Just don't use a green on black dork as my soul theme and you should be good, OP.

ITT: elitist teenagers masturbating to the secret thought of being misconstrued as a "hacker" when they're actually just ricing their WMs
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I don't. I just find it slow and fucking cumbersome and a pain in the butt to learn. Everything should have a clickable way of doing things. EVERYTHING.
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>>61000427
i use cp often, usually in a verbose and interactive way:
cp -vi
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>>61000427
Because only pedophiles use computers.
Every normie knows this.
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>>60996364
>editing config file for a screensaver in slackware
>omg are you hacking anon?
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>>60997342
she is used alright, she even know how to use it

cd
cd
..
cd code..
ls
cd
ls
cd code
...
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people see the CLI as outdated or just plain intimidating.

but some people, when they first see/experience the command line are fascinated and I would say most /g/entlemen are these types.

If you dont use the CLI and love it, you DO NOT BELONG HERE.
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>>61003146

If you use a cli and enjoy you dont belong anywhere. Fuck off with your childish wannabe robco os.
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lol your wife knows you're a pedo
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>>61003170
>robco os.
le i understood that reference XD
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>>61003170
Do not fret child, just start playing around in the CLI and it will be less intimidating, do not be scared or it, eventually you will learn the basics.
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my coworkers don't know anything about bash, or our linux setups at all. When starting I would often find entire directories that had been chown'd and chmod'd incorrectly exposing config files and .git folder contents to GET requests. I KNOW they copy pasted from stack overflow some Indians "chmod 0777 * to 'fix' it. recommendation". It makes me sick. I've basically taken over any tasks done on our linux machines because I'm the only person with the knowledge to set it up and maintain in properly. These are ''''smart'''' people making at least $80k+ and are afraid of the command line -- you take away a GUI and they just start copy pasting from stack overflow.
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>>61003205
>These are ''''smart'''' people making at least $80k+ and are afraid of the command line -- you take away a GUI and they just start copy pasting from stack overflow.
Maybe they are smart and just don't give a shit about these kinds of things because they know someone like you will fix it.
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>>61003225
>exposing config files containing passwords, usernames, and api keys
>smart
pick one
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>>60996364
>and that's one of the reasons for Linux staying in the 2%?
You're not obligated to use the CLI on distros like Ubuntu more than on Windows. The real reasons is that Windows comes bundled with the hardware and that MS has deals with institutions, but on the areas where Linux is the first option when you buy something it dominates over Microsoft products.
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>>60996364
>Are you looking for cp?
she probably wasn't wrong anyway
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Replace "wife" with "mom" in OP's post.
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>>60996364
>my wife
>my room
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>>61000363
Not really, there have been GUIs for decades now, before then no average person would've had a computer.
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>>60996364
no
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I once did the old
color 2
tree
thing at high school, my IT teacher had no idea what was going on, stupid bitch
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Only because I have to learn specific retarded shortcuts for each one
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>>61005500
each CLI program, that is
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>>61000482
>>61000663
I think what he is trying to say is that desktop environments weren't developed to the same level as Windows for most open source distros, by the time decent UI was created Microsoft already owned the marketshare/monopoly for normie uses.
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>>61005530
this. Normie use Windows, products for normies are made for Windows, normies use Windows because normie programs are on Windows...
>>60996364
Normies can't be relied to remember commands. It's easier for them to remember icons and where things are visually - so GUI is easier for them.
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>>60996512
I've never seen it in movies. But I have seen it on this show where his evil hacker box is only used to hack peoples accounts and commit terrorist attacks. Don't blame normies for being scared.
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>>61001330
Underrated post, made me chuckle
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>>60996364
>I was actually looking at neofetch
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>>60996364
My mom walked in on me updating Arch and now she thinks I'm being "brainwashed by Russians" into "hacking the blackweb"
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>>60996364
But you are hacking something, no? I believe what your wife meant to ask is if you were cracking something https://stallman.org/articles/on-hacking.html
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>>61003205

What the fuck is a GUI?
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>>60996364
>Are you looking for cp
hmm why did she even think about that? hmm really makes me think
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>>60996512
Every time I tell someone I like Linux and programming they ask "are you a hacker?" and well, technically I am. The true definition of hacker is what I am, and I'll tell them that, but they always start getting spooked out when I'm trying to help them with computers.
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>>61000516
spotted the amerifag
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