/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>>60994930
You're not going to get any major savings from there without sacrificing quality or performance.

What should I look for in a 4k monitor and how much should I expect it to run?

Posting on behalf of the ryzen master race.

>>60995203
Look for below 5ms response time, freesync or gsync depending on what brand of gpu you're using, and that's about it. High refresh rate 4k gaming is like impossible.

Average price is $300-500

>>60994794
you're wasting hundreds of $ for that ~4% performance increase over overclocking on r5 1600 and b350 board. this isn't intel, you don't an AIO and overpriced mobo to overclock.
that case is not only ugly but also big as fuck, mid tower is enough.
go for 500gb ssd with that budget

>>60995096
fuck off. hdds are still viable. no reason to not have one just for storage (yes you can have more than just csgo and chrome), unless you really like wasting your money.

>dont get the 1080ti. Just get an rx580 and/or wait for Vega.
are you retarded? 1080ti is more than double the performance of rx580, which you can't even fucking buy currently. vega's release is still more than a month away and IT WONT BE FUCKING AVAILABLE IN STOCK TILL AT LEAST SEPTEMBER. thanks miners

Thoughts on the gtx 770?

>>60995304
it's a gpu.

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Okay, I have no idea which thread we're using:

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/wxLPWX

This is for high-end gaming, Photoshop and video editing.
How do I subsidize costs without losing build quality?

Should I wait for the Vega promised land, or drop on a 1080 now?

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>>60995315

Anon please

>>60995296
Yah I forgot to switch it back to the 400c, I was looking at different cases.

I rather spend the extra $$$ on the aio and the board seemed to be the best choice for looks and performance. What would you suggest for a board?

>>60995345
>that build
>almost $1800
>canuckland
Solid build. See if you can get cheaper RAM, maybe LPX 3000 CL15 or Ripjaws V 3200 CL16, idk about canuck prices.
Toshiba P300 is better than WD Blue, compare prices. SSD and GPU should be best value.
For the case you could get something cheaper like the Deepcool Tesseract. Other than that you're good to go.

>>60995399
>board seemed to be the best choice for looks and performance
K5 is trash. AIO is overpriced, loud garbage. NH-D15 SE does an equally good job but doesn't sound like a tubine
>Corsair CXM
Enjoy your housefire, you've earned it.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VMhbHN
I already own the cooler, graphics card, and PSU from my current build. Thoughts on the combination of RAM, CPU, and mobo as an upgrade from an i5-4570?

>>60995459
Alright, I see if I can find those at cheaper prices. If not, then the build seems like it's good to go and I'll bite the bullet.

Fuck Trudeau for fucking up the conversion rate.

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>>60995459
Also, which is the 1TB variant the same price as the 3TB variant?

>>60995376
Never, ever, ever buy used legacy cards.

Esp. Nvidia ones.

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Repost from the second thread


So I just had my first boot and I get no display and it keeps rebooting every 10 secs or so.

Did some googling and I tried eveything. Only running the cpu and psu, cpu + psu + 1 ram stick, tried cpu + psu outside of the case. I am at a loss. Is it just my psu/mb being defect?

Pic related, everything but the cpu and psu is connected, but still has the restart problem.

>>60995304
If you end up wanting one, I'll sell you my old one for 50 bucks. Gigabyte. I'd have to go home to see if I have the original packaging, but right now it's sitting in the padded anti-static bag that my new 480 came in.

>>60995543

Oh ok, I see in the OP the GTX 1060 can max out games at 60hz, but what about 144?

>>60995607
Heavily depends on the game and settings.

>>60995607
if you mean aaa games then 1080ti can max out 1080p144fps
if you mean comp games like csgo, lol, dota, overwatch and other garbage then rx570/gtx1050ti can do that

>>60995540
Price on the 1TB is wrong, don't always trust PCP prices.

>>60995546
Clear CMOS? Also.. is there a hinge on the first PCIe slot missing, wtf?

>>60995600
I would feel bad pressuring you into it though: I just keep it around in case my current card ever craps out. Was thinking of donating it to a local tech charity anyway. The 2GB of VRAM is noticeable if gaming is what you have in mind.

>>60995646

I think Siege and Nier might be the most intensive games I play right now, most of it is >>60995652
compshit

>>60995667

It is, thanks though

Specs for the Corsair 200r says max cpu cooler height is 165mm. If I get a Noctua D15 or U14 that are 165mm tall, will I not be able to close the case or do they leave some wiggle room in the specs?

Otherwise I'll have to settle for a U12 or Cryorig H7 it seems since I don't want to air cool.

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Reminder that only poor people don't have case windows.

Also rate?

>>60995695
Yeah, I'd just wait for filthy dumb miner scum to stop buying up everything if at all possible. My card has more than doubled in price since I got it last fall.

>>60995844
>meh phanteks cooler
>those fans
>oversized psu
>muh side panel
>pic shot with a potato
Mild autism / 10

>>60995666
Tried that, still the same.

I found the hinge and put it back on

>>60996042
>I found the hinge and put it back on
RMA it. If my mobo came with the hinge being off i'd have immediately RMA'd it. You don't know if it's a bad mobo that slipped through QC, bad transportation/packaging or a repackaged mobo from some retard who broke it.

>>60995459
Whats trash about the K5?

AIO might be overpriced but from every review I've seen its not louder also it saves the cpu from quickly heating and cooling as metals don't like that. Yes the NH is nice but quite bulky and I rather more sleek look.

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all those radeons mining away in hot warehouses like tears in the rain

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>>60995546
LMAO. Ryzen doesn't have integrated graphics, you HAVE to have a GPU connected and hooked up to power/the display.

FUCKING LOL

>>60995546
You need a graphics card senpai

>>60994875
riddle me this:

160$ for a [email protected]+cooler+8gb 2133mHz ram

vs

400$ for 1600+3200mHz ram

It's less than half for the same fps apart from some hiccups in some open world multithreated gayms

Are PSUs standardized sizes? Do I have to worry about a run-of-the-mill gold PSU fitting in a microATX tower?


Likewise, is there much benefit for gaming to the Ryzen 1800x over the 1700x or the 1600? Even with multithreading, games aren't THAT parallel, are they?

>>60996212
There's a reason Gigabyte isn't known for their boards. Normally they have pretty shitty UEFI's, overpriced VRM's, and less features than other boards for the same price.

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>>60996016
What's wrong with SP120's?

>oversized PSU

Too right pal, means that the fan never comes on since its so under stressed.

>>60996360
>is there much benefit for gaming to the Ryzen 1800x over the 1700x or the 1600
no

>>60996353
1600 and 3200 ram. This shouldn't even be a question. Unless you're on a really tight budget (in which case you should just save your money until you can afford a better system), always try to get more recent hardware, since it'll basically be supported by everything and there should be 0 comparability issues.

And the 1600 is just a really fucking good CPU.

alright guys. I want to build a retro gaming Windows XP PC.
I've tried Hyper V, and other virtualization options and just no.
So I want to build a Windows XP PC specifically for gaming. Preferably with an AMD Athlon 64 processor or a variant of it (Athlon 64 FX/Athlon 64 X2/etc)
hit me with a good build list.
Currently looking at playing need for speed underground 1 and 2, need for speed carbon, and beach head 2002, to start with.

>>60996360
The significant (like 99%) majority of gold power supplies should fit perfectly fine into mATX cases, especially if they're modular (which you should certainly look for in a PSU).

I highly recommend the EVGA G3 series.

>>60996360
>Are PSUs standardized sizes
Only in 2 dimensions - PSU length can vary somewhat and be an issue in very cramped cases.

>>60996212
>Whats trash about the K5?
You buy an overpriced X370 mobo with B350 VRM. That's money out the window. If you want AIO for whatever reasons get the Kraken.

>>60996376
>What's wrong with SP120's?
>corsair
>good not totally overpriced fans
Pick one. Be Quiet and Noctua both have better performing fans with better price/perf.
>Too right pal, means that the fan never comes on since its so under stressed.
Then get a Be Quiet or Seasonic Prime next time. Both are silent, cheaper and will run more efficient since you won't even reach 50% load.
>average british woman
>no hijab, niqab, trash bag over head
Liar.

I want to build a pc, but I don't really care for a case would anyone bother to list the pros and cons of not having one would be?

I have a shitty brepuilt hp from years ago and I slapped a gpu in. For the past 5 months I have kept the side panel off because I like how it looks. No problems so far

>>60996468
>hit me with a good build list.
Budget you nigger.

>>60996353
>400$ for 1600+3200mHz ram
Where do you live that it's that expensive? Should be more like 300.

>>60996540
preferably under $200-$300 with used parts

>>60996468
underground works with windows 10 with mods

play a new beachhead game

>>60995844
>Not using ML fans
>Aorus graphics card
>Using a titanium power supply for a single CPU and GPU

A U T I S M
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>>60996566
Beach Head won't work on windows 10. quit being obstinate

Have any of you tried dual graphics with an APU and graphics card?

I am considering getting an A10 to dual with my R7 240 as an upgrade to cpu and grapgics power

>>60996551
>$200 for R5 1600
>around $180 for 3200 cl14 ram
>shipping
Nah, he's within $10

>>60996529
Greater dust intake. Danger of spilling shit on it. Do you have pets? Harder to move around, reposition.

Which is not to say it's vital; I've always wanted to build a wooden or plexiglass frame, and then lay out all my parts on it flat, and hang my computer up behind my desk as freakin' art, but that's a little more than I've ever gotten around to.

>>60996554
If you want to buy used i suggest you look at complete builds with Athlons or whatever. Actually i have such an old PC here that's still perfectly fine, i'd sell it but i'm from Germany so shipping is probably more expensive than the PC.
I'd look at Athlon families, maybe Bendium :DDD, 2-4GB RAM, HDD is pointless, buy a cheap 120GB SSD (KingDian for example) and the rest.. look at the pictures and try to tell in what shape it is.

>>60996515
Noctua's and BeQuiet's both look gay imo.

For gaming should i be looking for a ryzen 7 1600 or a ryzen 5 ????

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>>60996551
I forgot to include the mobo in the description

1600: 195$
b350 gaymen plus: 80$
16gb 3200mHz ram: 115$

=400$, or like 350$ with only 8gb

>>60996606
>$180 for 3200 cl14 ram
For 8GB? Or does Ryzen need 16 more than the 2500k for some reason?

>>60996671
I mean I was just thinking of screwing it on a square piece of wood with some metal risers like a test bench so I don't know how that would make moving harder.

>>60996765
1500x, 1600 or 1600x depending on your budget.

>>60996799
Oh, I thought you meant literally leave the different pieces lying around.

Both are doable.

>>60996827
So, I should fear dropping down to Ryzen 5?

>>60996687
The only new parts I planned was a case (Azza Sirius) and possible a HDD/SSD if I could get them to work.
The processor is so easy to find. Like under $5 on ebay. Found an ATI Radeon 9800 XT GPU on ebay for $45 ($58 including shipping). Beyond that, tracking down compatible parts seems to be a pain.

>>60996837
*shouldn't, I mean.

>>60996837
Yea it makes no sense to get anything below a 1600 desu
You save what? 30$? Unless you go with a 1400 but it's crippled of l3

>>60996867
R5 1600x seems the spot then; 4ghz and pretty comfy pricepoint.

>>60996781
Oh makes sense, I would go with that over the old i5 build any day.

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>>60996867
1500x makes no sense with 20$ price difference

>>60996765
But 1600 is Ryzen 5. So yes to both.

>>60996735
They shit on Corsair fans though, especially Noctuas.

>>60996765
Ryzen 5 1600 is what you want.

>>60996839
>compatible parts
Well, if you can buy the CPU and GPU (what port is it anyways, APG?) a HSF shouldn't be a problem i think and DDR2/3 you should be able to get for $20-50. I can buy it here in EU for 15-60€.

>>60996914
NO, the 1600x doesnt' come with a cooler, so you're looking at AT LEAST 80$ more than a 1500x

1600 or 1700 all the way, they overclock the same -+10% anyway their X counterparts

>>60996831
would this be a good idea?
https://www.moddiy.com/products/QDIY-Professional-Modder-Acrylic-MATX-Motherboard-Tray-%28YJ%252dZM01%29.html

>>60996966
Looks pretty sexy but I have no experience with it.

>>60995844
nice gay porn lad

>>60996965
Alright, geeze. I was just looking at the speed and it looks like the X is .4 GHz faster? What's the difference supposed to be?

And why the hell don't the X's ship with coolers but the no-Xs do?

>>60996919
Higher speed per core though.

>>60996962
>what port is it anyways
looks to be an early PCIe card. This was top of the line around 2004
http://www.ebay.com/itm/POWER-MAC-G5-ATI-RADEON-9800XT-256MB-7328-/382134274895?hash=item58f8fa4b4f:g:~VIAAOSw2xRYkMWj

Deciding whether or not upgrades are needed, mobo is Asus Maxiumus VII Ranger, hitting temps of 60-70c under load. Any chance of that causing problems or should that temp be sustainable without hurting the lifespan?

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>>60997034

T>he Xs are factory overclocked higher and don't come with a cooler bc "for OCers" so they expect you to use an aftermarket one

Also rumoured to be slightly better bin

>>60997169
Yea no shit u need to OC them youself, but they all come multiplier unlocked so it takes 2 minutes

Should I even bother with m.2 if I'm just going to be gaming and maybe streaming?

>>60997295
>NVMe SSDs aren't for a faster OS boot, they're for productivity/scratch disk/VMs. NVMe and M.2 are not the same thing, M.2 is a form factor.

Rephrase your question, that's like asking "should I even bother with pci-e?"

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>3570k running at like 100C under load for like 3 years
>read something on /g/ today
>drop the PLL voltage a little
>now runs in the high 80's

I feel like a retard for the fix being so simple.

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>set GPU and CPU fans to a constant speed
>disable case fans
>run stress tests
>wait a bit
>take temperature readings
>set case fans to 100%
>repeat test
>temps are like 1-2C lower

Why do people spend so much money on case fans?

>>60997368
Well there isn't much that uses that form factor besides NVMe's, so I thought it was obvious what I meant.

I'm leaning on no because neither productivity or scratch disks really apply to me and VMs are just something I might dick around in for fun.

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>>60997483
well it's summer so they're way less important, also you might have set em up incorrectly with airflow all over the place.

>>60997407
Are you running that in your desk drawer or why is it so hot in the first place?

>>60997483
There a more parts than can get hot in a pc besides a GPU or CPU

>>60997483
Sauce on that pic.

>>60997729
NZXT 410 with two 120mm intakes in the front, one 120mm exhaust in the rear, and two 140mm exhausts in the roof. Using a non-reference 1080Ti which exhausts into the case, and a tower air-cooler for the CPU.

>>60997819
Any I should really care about?

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>>60994875
Want to build mini itx work station but need it to be super quite. I was gonna put it in a Dan a4 case but I'm open to any mini itx case that can be bolted up to the vesa mounts behind a monitor. I'm going with ryzen CPU and am looking for the quitest smallest workstation card out there. Help me guys.

if that guy who wants to play beach head is still around I found a game that might work instead

http://store.steampowered.com/app/448370/IS_Defense/

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with a Ryzen 5 1600 + rx580 can I play games at 4K even at low to mid settings at 60fps? what about blizzard games?

>>60997788
Nah it's in a good case with an NHD14, I just got a really shit chip and need like 1.33V to be able to run 4.5ghz stable.

>>60998118

Also what's your guys' thoughts on programming on a big 4k screen rather than 2-3 full HD ones?

>>60998040
>Ryzen
>ITX
Your only choice is Biostar. We are still waiting for ITX mobos. I'd suggest going for mATX HTPC that you can place behind your monitor on beneath it. Fractal Design Node is a good case and Silverstone has good options, too.
Also keep in mind that you will need a GPU with Ryzen. Unless you plan on doing CAD or other graphic intense work you could throw a GTX1050(Ti) or RX550/560 low profile in there.

>>60998118
>rx580 can I play games at 4K even at low to mid settings at 60fps?
I seriously doubt that and good luck finding a RX580.

Can someone give me a good list for around 1500 dollars. Primarily for vr.

>>60997950
>Any I should really care about?
Your VRMs.

>>60998383
Don't care.

What's a good monitor (or brand of monitors to watch)?

Trying to get 4k capable, but would prefer not to spend $500 on a monitor after a $1500 build.

>>60998198
Thanks for the attempt at answering my questions but I won't go near nvidia as I won't be gayming because it's a Linux workstation therefor I need a low profile quite amd card. Also matx is out of the question and I already ordered the only ryzen mitx board out there.

Can anyone tell me why using XMP for my ram with a 1600x causes the CPU Vcore to go way up?

My ram is rated for 3200, but even running it at 2933 my average VCore goes up to 1.43v according to HWInfo and my CPU idle and load temps go up significantly.

If I run the ram at "auto" settings it will boot at 2133 and the CPU voltage is normal.

Is there something else I should be adjusting or is this normal? I'd obviously like to keep my ram clocked higher since it gives about a 10-15% performance boost in the games I play, but I'm not happy about those voltages.

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considering getting these upgrades because my shit is dated, and a 1080 down the road a bit

not sure about the compact liquid cooler because it's got mixed reviews and I hear those kaby lakes get real hot real quick.

I could swap to the Noctua NH-U12S for about the same price, but I'm not sure which would do the better job

anyone got any experience/advice?

>>60998465
There are sometimes decent 4K monitors for $300-$500. Watch sales.

Samsung is coming out with a 4K HDR10 Quantum-dot 1ms Freesync2 one that's only $600 IIRC.

I'm using a HD 7850 and thinking of getting an RX 460. Will I notice any difference in performance?

>>60998783
What the flim-flam is quantum-dot?

>>60998758
Oh I noticed this same thing. Huh.
Not sure.
But instead of using XMP, just manually enter those timings it got running.

>>60998775
>he sees the PSU only has a 3 star rating
>he buys it anyway
Xd!!!
>tiny ass shitty AIO that's worse and louder than an air cooler that costs half as much
>retail windows
shit dude you're beyond help

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>>60998775
Can't comment on the other shit but I'd stay away from Corsairs AIO's personally. Had a H100 and H50i and they were both shit. They look cool but the pump noises they make will drive you insane if you care about noise. Even in a decent case it transfers the vibrations to your desk. A proper air cooler will cool just as well and have the ability to go 100% silent at idle since you can just shut the fans off, you can't do that with a water pump.

Unless you're space limited for some reason just get an air cooler, or I guess if you don't care about noise at all.

>>60998775
>>60998844
Also yeah, the Corsair CX series PSU's are dogshit.

>>60998827
It's more advanced pigments for a greater color range. Google it.

>>60998811
Yeah, almost double yet at half the power usage. Plus it can use Radeon Chill and other shit.
It also mines a lot better.

/g looking for some advice what I should but for a mobo it needs to have overclocking, ddr4 capable of 3200mhz, has usb 3.0, has crossfire capability, and has the lga1151 socket. I had already bought the asus x99-pro for all of this and an entirely different processor but I've already had to return it cause it was broken when it showed up. Now I'm thing of getting the MSI H270 Tomahawk arctic I'm just not sure if the ddr4 goes up to 3200mhz. I'm in the middle of checking now. Just asking to see if anyone has some other suggestions or if they have dealt with this board before. Thanks for any advice.

https://www.amazon.com/MSI-Motherboard-H270M-MORTAR-ARCTIC/dp/B01MS68B8O/ref=sr_1_14?ie=UTF8&qid=1497997637&sr=8-14&keywords=motherboard%2Bcrossfire&th=1

>>60998848
H100 used some anti-corrosive additive in the liquid which under heat and enough time turned into plastic which coated the heatsinks and made the stop working... lol.
H50 probably did the same but most people don't actually use their PC much so they seem fine for most.

>>60998873
I don't like MSI, but seems fine.
I'd generally recommend ASRock due to decent-to-great hardware and great UEFI (unless you're doing external clock gen changes, but afaik they're working on that). Their Extreme4 mATX board, both ATX and mATX, I think ticks your boxes.

>>60998844
>buys it anyway

cmon fella it's a wishlist i'm literally asking about it before buying it

>>60998865
>>60998811
Umm, isn't the 460 barely any faster than a R7 370? i.e. the rebrand of the rebranded 7870, i.e., the card thats within 10% performance wise of the 7850?

Or am I getting confused about my rebrands here?

How necessary is G-Sync? If I have a high-refresh monitor, and a muscly graphics card, can I just tell it to cap game FPS at [60] or [75]? Can I have an Nvidia 1080 use Freesync if I can't afford a G-sync monitor?

>>60999034
>Can I have an Nvidia 1080 use Freesync if I can't afford a G-sync monitor?
Nope. Freesync only works on AMD Radeon cards.
>buying nvidia

>>60999060
What else am I supposed to buy? Open to suggestions.

>>60998959
Sorry I was thinking of the RX560.
The RX560 is 50-60% the performance of the RX580.
The 7970(R9 280) is 40-65% the performance of the RX580.
As for the 7850.. it's hard to say. It had the same ROPs as the 7970 though much lower compute. On the other have, the RX560 has half the ROPs and half the compute as the RX580.
The newer arch also has some culling features that greatly improve how it deals with lots of polygons and tesselation.. so yeah.
From what I've seen the RX560 is pretty similar to the 7970, which was quite a lot better than the 7850. But there are likely games where it's hardly much better.

>>60999080
Oh wait no, the 7970 is more like 60-70% the perf of the RX580. So an RX560 is a bit slower than a 7970 but still faster than a 7850.

>>60999070
G-sync only works with nvidia cards. Whether you need G-sync is up to you. frame tearing is a thing.

>>60999107
how is frame tearing a thing with vsync

>>60999034
>How necessary is G-Sync
Frame tearing isn't much of a problem above 100Hz, at 144Hz I'd argue that if it bothers you you're either looking for it or have autism.

>>60999122
it isn't. That's why you want a v-sync technology. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

>>60999122
Vsync is shit, drop below your refresh rate and it looks like roasted garbage. Plus the input lag is absurd.

If anyone wanted one, theres still 47 dan cases left on the kickstarter.

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>>60999160
>ryzen in a gaming rig
kys

>>60999186
lol. Couple hours ago you guys were shilling it to me. Now that I picked it you fuck boys want to grip about it. Is this place ever consistent?

>>60999186
>being an Intel shill
kys

>>60999160
Why the H115i?
And the 960 Evo?
And the wifi adapter instead of getting a board that includes it?

>>60999214
ignore him. It's one Intel shill bitching about a few FPS

>>60999160
2200$ down the drain

>>60999244
I like the look/performance and I rather keep things consistent with what else I picked.

960 evo was just what was top rated on picker, any suggestions for m.2? $100 prefered with atleast 250gb.

>>60999257
oh look. An intel shill

>>60999264
840EVO M.2 and don't look back.

>>60999257
what would make it better? also its $1800.

>>60999244
oh for the wifi adapter I couldnt find a decent price/looking board with it and also bluetooth.

>>60999270
I'm not an intel shill, it's just a shit build with ALOT of waste, and cut corners over impotant stuff like an actually usable SSD

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>>60999214
The simple fact is the 7700K is better for gaming, and it'll stay that way for at least a few more years. Intel has alot better per-core performance, those extra Ryzen cores aren't going to do you much good when a game is only using 2-4 cores.

>>60999230
kys

>>60999245
Kill yourself also, you're a fucking retard if you recommend Ryzen to someone over an i7 for gaming.

Also this is just a shit time to buy CPU's in general. Intel just pulled off a pretty epic blunder with their latest platform and AMD is dropping Threadripper soonish.

As someone who has a 1080Ti, plays at 1440p like you're looking to, and is using a heavily overclocked Ivy setup, my FPS's would shit the bed if I got a Ryzen CPU. The simple fact is when you've got a 1080Ti and are playing at a res it laughs at, you're CPU bottlenecked in near enough everything.

>>60999288
Whats the difference between m.2 and ssd then? I've been reading m.2 is better.

>>60999299
>needing more than 250gb for windows install and couple games
Its my first build and what I currently I use a secondary to store shit I don't use all the time. Unless you mean performance wise, whats better ssd or m.2?

>>60999324
See earlier multiple faggots kept shilling 1600x, but I do like the thought of 1600x being soldered and not having to de-lid the 7700k myself. But I agree with the performance.

>>60999324
>when a game is only using 2-4 cores.
Thank god no game in existence do this otherwise all game would run like shit
Stop spreading fud and parroting shit you've heard on reddit. And the 7700k is a 144hz CPU, which is a total waste of money for non-144hz gaming

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824011074&ignorebbr=1
Is this a reasonable price?

I like relatively large pixel-size monitors.

>>60999352
Not even going to reply to this, that's how retarded it is.

The guy can go look up Ryzen vs i7 gaming benchmarks, you can't dispute the facts.

Go kill yourself.

>>60999352
The monitor I picked is a 144hz monitor with 165hz overclocked.

So whats better, 1600x or 7700k?

>>60999385
How much did you pay?

>>60999349
>needing more than 250gb for windows install and couple games
yea nigga u do know games like Doom are 100GB on disk right?

So winblows install+Doom+second game with a bit of documents and savefiles and cache and shit and ur 250gb (actually 235ish) SSD is full already

>>60999392
its here
>>60999160

>>60999380
That's some epic argumentation you got there, first making retarded claim that game don't use more than 2 - 4 cores and then throwing a tantrum because people disagree with you.
Yeah, the 7700k reaches higher FPS. So what? It's only good if you have a 144hz+ screen.

>>60999385
If you're only gaming and nothign else then the 7700k would be a clear winner as it hits the best framerate in any games, now i doubt you're gonna reach 165hz in most AAA games without overclocking. Even if it's the strongest, 144+hz is demanding and the 7700k already has trouble getting a constant 144hz in AAA games so 165hz is pushing it too far. You might need to delid and overclock.

>>60999324
>As someone who has a 1080Ti, plays at 1440p like you're looking to, and is using a heavily overclocked Ivy setup, my FPS's would shit the bed if I got a Ryzen CPU. The simple fact is when you've got a 1080Ti and are playing at a res it laughs at, you're CPU bottlenecked in near enough everything.

You're full of shit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRgJ79TcCO0

>>60999414
no cpu on the market can max out @ 144fps consistently @1440p let alone 165fps

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>>60999395
Alright buddy. Not going to argue. Just I have numerous games DL'd rn and I can still squeeze in muh doom.

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>>60998040
A machine that fits behind a monitor and you want it to be ITX? Pretty sure that's too large. All these tiny pcs are much smaller and often come with laptop hardware.
The DAN case is already pretty much as small as you can make a PC with dedicated GPU. If you want it to be quiet maybe look at ehe Fractal Define Nano S. It's a bit bigger tho.

>>60998196
If you're unsure but want something that's futureproof if you change your mind you might want to try out the Dell P4317Q. It's pretty big but it's basically four 21.5 inch FHD monitors combined into one big 4k screen. But you can arrange it however you want and it has a fuckton of inputs. Especially good it you have more than one PC hooked to it like I do.

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Kid in office torqued the shit out the cooler on this board. Failed to post, pulled cooler, found exposed traces. Is this repairable?

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>>60999450
so u only play shitty indies?
why the fuck are u buying a 2000$ setup then


This is just 4 games i have on my ssd rn:
Quantum Break
Mirror's edge catalyst
Far Cry Primal
DAI

>>60999496
Not every gpu/cpu demanding game is 100gb nigger.

also you proved my point with your picture. So yeah I'm sticking with the 250gb, im good with it. I'll upgrade in a few years when they are expensive as hell.

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Upgrading from shitty no gpu i5 4460 build.

>>60999528
>spends 2000$ on a shitty pc build
>can't afford a 500GB SSD for 150$

ahahahaha

>>60999480
Try using an eraser and rubbing the area. If it still doesn't post, it is fucked.

>>60999528
i didn't prove shit, only being able to fit 4 average sized gayms means constatly copypasting or reinstalling them around your hdds
>literally 90s style niggerdom

>>60999543
>580
Good luck.

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>>60999414
>'w-well I guess the 7700K is better for this thing you're clearly making your system for'
Pathetic, AMD babies just like to argue for no reason.

Apologize.

I'm conflicted.
Can't decide if I want an X370 or a B350

I want the best either way, but I can't figure if I'd be content with just a single GPU or if I eventually want to take the leap to try messing around with Crossfire.

Also I'm not sure how much better some x370's are compared to b350's or vice-versa

>XPS 8500 with i7 3770, 12GB, 1TB, 7750 for $200
>i7 2700k, 16GB, 120GB SSD, 2TB, 6670 for $150
>i5 4460, 16GB, 2TB for $125

How'd I do?

>>60999585
shut the fuck up nieger, it's 10% more fps average if you OC it to 5gHz, meaning wasting mad cash on a AIO and delidding
Otherwise the difference is even smaller

>>60999624
where is this???

>>60999556
>>60999577
The autism.


>>60999585
This seems to be the overall conclusion with amd shills vs intel cucks. I was leaning towards the 7700k to begin with I just hate the idea of de-liding and voiding the warranty.

>>60999603
Crossfire is a scam. Even if you have 4 GPU's you will barely have double the performance.

Where do you get win10 for less than a hundred dollarydoos?

Preferably in physical form.

>>60999652
Seems to be in my trunk right now.

>>60999683
Literally any win vista/7/8 key will activate a windows 10 install.

>>60999543
Get a PNY ssd instead.

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>>60999634
> it's 10% more fps average if you OC it to 5gHz
In modern and well optimized games.

Go play anything 5+ years old or badly optimized (i.e almost everything) and a 7700K will shit on Ryzen so hard. CSGO is the perfect example of this.

>>60999708
if u play 5+ old games then fps are meaningless as you'll be in the 200s with either mong

>>60999656
You don't need to delid, don't they run at like 85C at 4.2Ghz with the stock Intel cooler?

Who gives a shit about high temps anyway it's just a number on a screen, so long as it's below 100C you're good.

>>60999743
Spec sheet reader and retard detected.

>>60999656
nigger u're so autistic u've picked a 160$ AIO for no reason but to "make it fit gud the rest" and then jew out on literal 30$ more of SSD

You're on the spectrum

>>60999585
Very few people make 144hz builds.

tl;dr
this thread is a bunch of /v/ homo teens

Why are all of the RX cards so pricey all of the sudden? I bought my RX 480 8gb for $230 last month now you can't find them for under $450 if you can find them

>>60999662
That answers one question.

Do 370's have anything else going for them besides more pci-e channels?

>>60999786
>AMD GPUs are suffering a lack of stock and Nvidia a rise in price thanks to e-currency miners

>>60999706
So I should buy one of those? I don't have any lying around.

>>60995706
Anybody have experience with the 200r and a huge Noctua cooler?

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>>60999743
>this kills the AMD shill
>he thinks badly optomised or demanding old titles don't exist

I'm sure Ryzen would run something like Skyrim or one of the Total War games just great. I get drops to 35FPS in Skyrim with a 1080Ti, on Ryzen it would probably go down to 15FPS LMAO.

Hello everyone how does this look? Only parts that i already do not have are the ram cpu mobo and case.


https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHwsQV

>>60999766
First off the aio is $15 more than older models.

second the 500gb is $80 more than $250 and I solved this issue by getting a 2tb hdd.

Do you even have a brain fucking idiot? Do you seriously need more than 4-5 games on your main drive at all times?

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>>60999816
Oh wow, it gets 308 fps instead of 483 in a launch benchmark!

>>60999795
I was wondering if it was a case of supply and demand. But that's still crazy that prices have doubled in a month. Was thinking of buying another card but I guess I'll just wait for a while.

>>60999816
>oh no!
>300 fps instead of 480!
>whatever shall I do?

>>60999806
Go to a store/library/friends house who doesn't have a win10 installed and use theres. Once that key is activated for your win10/hardware no one else can do anything with it.

>>60999845
You can always settle for a GTX 1060 6GB as long as you can find one that doesn't have a bigger price than usual thanks to lack of stock

>>60999852
If I'm working with a brand new build though, don't I need an OS installed in the first place to boot it up?

>>60999860
I was wanting another RX to take advantage of the crossfire.

>>60999820
Way overkill PSU, why are you getting that?
Could save money by going 1600 non X

>>60995706
>>60999810
Dunno about those, just looked up the max clearance of my case and what my CPU coolers height is, both claim to be 170mm. Never looked it up before buying. In my case the cooler is pretty much touching the side panel window.

Obviously different manufacturers will allow different amounts of lee way, but they seem to be pretty accurate in my case.

>>60999873
nigger listen
>go somewhere with a key
>take picture of sad key
>do this a couple times
>build your pc
>start win10 install
>it will ask for win10 key
>input said one of your keys you took pictures of
>continue install
>live your life and kys.

>>60999900
>go to prison for 15 years for software fraud

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Hey /g
This is my first build and im also new to the whole
work of pc gaming etc, i have a budget that can be slightly stretched of 500 punds GBP. a friend gave me some tips and now im trying to make one, how is this? any advice on the pc gaming world? how ewll will this PC run?
Thanks!
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HVQmZ8

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>>60999847
>>60999841
>thinking you can't extrapolate that out to other games
70fps instead of 100fps isn't sounding too hot now is it?

>>60999900
damn that roll gg anon

>>60999885
Already have the psu from an old build. As for the 1600x i can wait a little longer for better mini itx mobos most likely so i can save more.

>>60999915
Youre a fuck boy. Do what you want nigger.

>>60999935
Forgot to say i already have a HDD, its a 1tb seagate, its my brothers one. is this worth having?

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>>60999938

>>60995243
It's possible, it's just a few months away and pretty expensive. Asus and Acer are both releasing high refresh 4k monitors.

WAITING FOR >>60999999

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>>60999900
>take picture of sad key

>>60999977
I realized this after I posted. lol I was thinking the samething. I've been looking at the screen too long.

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hang all niggers

What CPU heatsink and fan is that in image

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Haven't done a build in a long time and I'm looking to get back into PC gaming again, just wonder if anyone had any thoughts on this, price is in AUD. Is there anything that might be worth upgrading to or changing, actually came a fair bit under my original budget of 2.5k-3k.

Does anyone know if I will have any issue with the liquid cooled cpu with the double fans with the case i've selected? I'm just a bit sure about these new Mirco ATX cases, and how much room they have in them. Cheers

Niggers

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hang all niggerss

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>>60999938
No, that's not how it works, sorry anon

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>>60999999
NAH BOI HES DONE IT

>>60999999
o kurwa

>>60999999
Nice hexas!

>>61000007
>>61000011
>not 61000000

Naw he was close though.

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>>60999935
PSU, RAM and CPU are trash. You might get away with 8GB of RAM for a while but just be aware it's barebones minimum. Regardless, make it a 2 x XGB setup, google what dual channel memory is if you want to know why.

I'd drop that shit Corsair PSU for something cheaper and 80 Plus certified by Silverstone, EVGA or Seasonic.

A Pentium is worthless for gaming, just buy whatever the cheapest i5 you can get your hand on is.

That's a pretty expensive case for the budget you're on, but if you like it, who cares.

>>60999825
damn it's hard and wasteful to try to help out retards so retarded they dont' even realize they are such.

Why are u even buying a fucking AIO for a cheapass 65w cpu mong?

And secondly no, something like a 850 EVO 500gb is 170$

>durr why u need moar than 4 gaym

maybe because you can play whatever u want whenever?

pick the 250gb, wtf do i care, u're gonna regret it

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>>60999935
>>60999935
>>60999935
Bumping because i need answers please

Pic for attention

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>>61000023
>i5

>>60999938
t.i make shit up to troll

>>60999563
Will do, thanks anon

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>>61000045
>ryzen
>for gaming

>>61000023
I was told that the pentium is was a great budget CPU? The cheapest i5 costs 100 pounds more!!

>>61000054
Who are you quoting?
Also, i5s are shit at AAA gaming
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bBKHsMar1Jo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6Ovmxfejvo
https://youtu.be/JypkqwpOtNI?t=8m
Enjoy the FPS drops and fuckall headroom

cheking
>>60999999
>>611111111
>>61000000

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>>60999999

>>61000079
Rolls hate nignogs confirmed

>>61000035
nigger go on jewtube and jewgle:
"500$ build" and see some alternatives, u get 10s of results


If i were u i'd get a second hand i5 2500k or 3570k because intelfags are throwing them away rn so they're hella cheap

u can get cpu+mobo+ram for 150ish bucks

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>>61000062
They're shit, you need four cores.

You can easily make up 100 by getting a less gay case and getting a slightly shittier GPU.

Much better to get the best CPU you can afford now as it's a stagnant market, an i5 from 2012 is within margin of error as good as one from now with respects to gaming performance.

Besides if you want to be cheap about it, a used 3570K and motherboard is like 100 quid on eBay.

>>61000031
sorry I meant 250gb not $250.

You're trying to justify me doubling my main drive storage by putting out another $70-$100 when I'm getting a 2tb hdd regardless. I don't switch between my games constantly so I rather save that money for now and wait till later when it comes down.

I'm on the flop between 1600x and 7700k and the AIO goes well with the theme and is relatively cheap compared to other AIOs and great performance. Air cooled just doesn't do it for me, that fast heating/cooling isn't good for metals.

>>61000118
>an i5 from 2012 is within margin of error as good as one from now with respects to gaming performance.
You sure enjoy spouting bullshit don't you?
5 years old i5s are dogshit compared to current ones, they get much shitter frametimes and FPS and heat noticeably more. Even a 2500k oc'd to 4.7GHz barely competes with a 7500.

>>61000023
>i5
lol

>>61000162
he's right you mong
and no the sandy bridge dont' heat AS MUCH as they're soldered not jewjizzed
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-is-it-finally-time-to-upgrade-your-core-i5-2500k

>>61000023
>>61000023
Sounds like someone doesnt know shit about PC's

>>60997729
>>60997483
>>60998118

>posting random whores on /g/ to get your post more attention

Stop

>>61000259
G4560 is actually decent to goodish in all but a handful of gayms

>>61000283
mine was actually a dude in drag desu

So who makes the best overall performance Ryzen motherboards? Gigabyte?

>>61000329
I've been researching all day it seems to be gigabyte/asus.

why 24 inch monitors are a lot cheaper than their 27" counterparts?

>>60994875
anyone got ID of the cpu cooler in OPs pic, its is that noctua flat heatsync one ?

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>>61000259
Refute what I said then.

>>61000162
Horseshit and you know it. In the vast majority of games there's almost no difference between any of the post-Sandy i5/i7's clock for clock. Any that do have FPS differences are rare or extremely recent games, and are solely due to RAM or Hyperthreading differences.

The only reasons a 2500K isn't viable today in a balls to the walls gaming setup is because it doesn't have shit like SATA3, USB 3.0, has shit PCIe lanes and maybe if you're a faggot you'd care about the power consumption.

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>>61000359
Wrong pic.

>>60999935
I know you're new to this so I shouldn't be too hard on you, but
>70 for a Dual (2, yes TWO) core cpu
>single channel RAM
>and DDR4 when prices spiked when the whole point is for you to save money so prices get lower later on and you can afford shit
>spending that much on a budget mobo that will become inferior soon
>getting a 1060 now when prices are rising thanks to min(igg)ers
>for a budget build that you'll have to replace practically everything eventually, and most likely the card too because it's barely decent
>no storage accounted for
>buying new ever when trying to build a budget, entry level system

If your goal was to save money then just letting you know you can buy a used dell computer with an i5-2400 for ~$250 if you're too lazy to look for deals and sort by Best Match, slap that 1060 in there and you're done. All for less than what your build is priced at. Do I recommend it? No, those Dells are grossly overpriced and limited in what you can do. What I am saying though is that how bad your build is: a fucking Dell is a better deal, even when overpriced.

>>61000392
>If your goal was to save money then just letting you know you can buy a used dell computer with an i5-2400 for ~$250 if you're too lazy to look for deals and sort by Best Match, slap that 1060 in there and you're done
Actually might make a second PC doing this now that you've reminded me. Buy any used i5 prebuilt for peanuts, get a used 7850 for peanuts, get a cheap but decent PSU, jobs done.

>>61000342
IPS vs TN?

>>60999935
>>61000392
>>61000417
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lenovo-Core-i5-Quad-Core-3-00GHz-8GB-RAM-500Gb-HDD-HD-Graphics-Win-8-1-Pro-/122550383640?hash=item1c88927418:g:z1kAAOSw-3FZJe0M

Drop a used 780Ti in there and you've got a pretty fucking great tier setup for less than 300 quid.

I used to have a 7970 in a Lenovo premade tower, it took up the entire length of the case.

>>61000470
Can you even use a 780Ti? I thought that thing was power hungry, and I'm not too familiar with Lenovo's PSUs.

>>61000706
Obviously doing this you'd need to change the PSU unless you like literal housefires.

7700K or 1700X?

They're both the same price (~450€)

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whats the best way to install a copy of windows 10 64-bit onto a new mobo without me shilling out another 100 bucks?

I FUCKING TOLD YOU NIGGERS
VOLTA WAS PUSHED UP TO Q3 THIS YEAR
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-volta-v100-gpu-tesla-v100-pci-express-announced/
http://wccftech.com/nvidia-volta-v100-gpu-tesla-v100-pci-express-announced/

wtf happened to gpu prices recently? why did [roces jump so much and why is everyone out of stock of cards like the 1070?

>>61000758
pirate it mister hill

>>61000748
>games
7700K
>anything else
Probably 1700X

>>61000777
*prices

>>61000762
When are the consumer ones going to be announced?

>>61000748
the 1700 is 300€, 1700x 340€ in Germany where the FUCK are you nigger

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>>61000781
ya'll got some sorta fancy guide that'll walk me through it?

>>61000729
Lenovo doesn't have proprietary hardware? I know Dell loves to bully people with this so making anything compatible is always a challenge.

Besides, 780Ti is around $190 used in burger ebay. Budgeting flies out the window at that point. If you're willing to spend that much on a used GPU you may as well look at the most recent ones.

>>61000820
don't use a copy that doesn't match the correct sha hash
idk what the correct hash is
gl

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>>61000777

>>61000854
i thought miners only cared about AMD cards i'm looking at 1070s and they are out of stock everywhere and like $100 more than they used to be.

>>61000820
Get the official ISO off MS website install it.
Don't activate it. Get some activator. Make sure the hash checks out. You don't want any rootkit in your system.

If you have money to burn:
Allkeyshop has them for 10 bucks. But it looks shady as fuck.
Kinguin is slightly more legit and has them for 25 bucks.
Or go on Ebay and get W7/10 keys for 5 bucks.

>>61000881
brainlet
>amd cards get sold out
>amyd gaymen buy nvidea
>nvidea prices go up also

>>61000881
You can use NVIDIA cards too, they're just not as efficient. Miners have gotten desperate as pixelmoney prices keep soaring and retailers can't stock up on AMD cards fast enough.

>>61000344
It's a different fan on either a Cryorig C1, Noctua LH-N12, or Scythe Big Shuriken (probably the later).

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>>61000825
Nope, just dropped it in, changed the PSU and it was up and running.

Looked like pic related, think it was a H430, had a i5 2320. Had to cut the hard-drive cage out with a hacksaw to make space for the stupidly huge graphics card. Think I just had my HDD cable tied in somewhere. Was a pretty comfy sleeper build.

>>61000907
1070s and 1080Ti are two of the best for mining right now.
RX580s just because they're cheap but doesn't earn enough, especially with the DAG update coming and it not being as good at the other valuable currencies.

Dunno why you faggots speak up when you don't know what you're talking about, but there you go.

>>61000817
Serbia. Don't forget the average paycheck is 300€ and on top of that we have to deal with bullshit tech prices

For instance the 1080 8gb is 950€

>>61000954
>950 EUROS
>I just paid $499+etc for it
you poor things
We either bombed you too hard or not enough.

>>61000977
Hey at least the rent is dirt cheap and 200€ buys you food for a month

>>61000930
>don't answer guy's question
>somebody else does it
>get some information wrong but mostly right and at least an answer is given
>"Wow fag why did you even comment"

It got you to give an answer, at least. How about next time you speak up if it bothers you so much.

Should I pull the trigger on the Walmart 1700 deal or wait for Threadripper? I'm looking to replace my Xeon workstation, want something that can handle a buttload of VMs and compilation as well as do some 4K gaming. Is the PCIe lane limitation on Ryzen going to be a big deal down the road as upgrading goes? What do, /pcbg/?

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>>61001004
>average paycheck is 300€
>200€ buys you food for a month

>>61001055
Yeah you can live off 100€/month eating pure fucking shit, 200 gets you decent food

Back to my question, since the prices are exactly the same, 7700K or 1700X? Kind of leaning towards 7700K, pretty much nothing I do can make use of the extra cores

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What card has the highest TDP/power consumption that I can pick up for less than $100 on ebay?

I missed out on a 25GBP 5970 because I fell asleep in the last hour of bidding, missed it by like 2GBP. Can I do any better than a 5970?

>>61001102
>pretty much nothing I do can make use of the extra cores
What exactly do you do?

>>61001133
I code and I play games

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>>61001102
but the 7700k motherboard is gonna cost you another month wage Ivan

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Should I get an expensive TN monitor with decent colors and high refresh rate, or an IPS with great colors. I play occasionally play competitive multiplayer games and some singleplayer games, I also do photography and light photoshoping as a hobby and use my computer to watch movies.

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>>61001153
>code
>nothing I do can make use of the extra cores
thank god i asked

>>60999816
Aye yo, will a r5 1600 really run modded skyrim like shit if you have like a 1060 6gb GPU?

>>61001178
High refresh rate/low input lag monitors make a huge difference in gaming and new TN monitors are good at color reproduction and accuracy (depending on brand and factory calibration)

I recommend going to Best Buy or whatever store has monitors out on display and look at them yourself.

>>60999999
>shitty pol post in a shitty Lego thread
Not that big a surprise.

>>61001179
>compiling bloated C++ projects
Disgusting. Nobody should ever do this. Let them rot.

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ok guys, how shit is this build? this is my first time doing this

>>61001336
>i5 quad core at retail price
It's automatically shit.

>>61001336
>i5 7500
stopped reading right there

>>61001336
Get an R5 1600 + MSI B350 PC-mate and you're getting a $20 cheaper motherboard + cpu that are also insanely better
6 cores 12 threads > 4 core 4 threads all day and on top of that both the mobo and CPU are unlocked so you can overclock if you feel the need to.

>>61001336
don't buy that hdd, it'll die on you in less than a year

>>61001207
IPS in my opinion has good enough refresh rate nowadays that you won't really notice it unless you are playing competitive twitch shooter.

>>61001372
Ryzen shills are out in full force tonight.

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>>61001391
>2017
>2400mHz ram

>>61001423
nice job

>>61001421
G4560 for budget
R1600 for everything else
7700k if all you ever do is game

This is coming from someone who has a 7700k btw

>>61001450
>7700k if all you ever do is game
Why are you recommending a $315 CPU that requires a $30 cooler and $140 motherboard (with a dead socket) minimum for simple gaming? Do you enjoy getting people to waste money on hardware they do not see any benefit from?

>>61001539
t.someone that doesn't play at >144hz poofag

>>61001539
For the same reason people buy a 1080ti and get LEDs in their builds. They have money to burn and don't mind spending a premium to get the best hardware they can.

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>>61001551
Which means the vast majority of people

>>61001554
>They have money to burn and don't mind spending a premium to get the best hardware they can.
But this doesn't make sense, the R5 1600 and any AMD CPU more expensive than that all technically pack more performance than similarly priced Intel CPUs
If you're gonna waste money, go waste it getting something more powerful

>>61001573
On what? The only AMD CPU that I say outperforms the 7700k is the 1800x. Feel free to buy that if you want to.

>>61001573
>ryzen
>better than a 7700k for gaming
Kill you're self.

>>61001591
I can't read: the post

>>61001587
>On what?
It doesn't matter. The guy i responded to said "best hardware" period, an R7 1700 packs much more performance than a 7700k. If someone is stupid enough to pay for expensive things they do not see any benefit things from, then they might as well get the better product.

>>61001614
see
>>61001591

>>61001614
>R7 1700 packs much more performance than a 7700k
No.

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>>61001623

>>61001591
It's better for gaming as long as you don't exclusively play dx9 titles at 720p

>Its another episode of 1700 vs 7700k again
DE JA VU

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>>61001626
Sure thing anon

>>61001647
How about you provide gaming benchmarks?

>>61001655
>How about you provide benchmarks that are not representative of overall CPU performance
Not sure

>>61001662
Which part of "7700k if all you ever do is game" did you not understand?

>>61001677
Which part of
>Why are you recommending a $315 CPU that requires a $30 cooler and $140 motherboard (with a dead socket) minimum for simple gaming? Do you enjoy getting people to waste money on hardware they do not see any benefit from?
Do you not understand anon? Why do you want people to waste their money? You give bad advices

>>61001688
a 30$ cooler is not enough to keep a heavily OC'ed 7700k at bay

>>61001688
If all you ever do is game and browse the net why would you need a better overall CPU performance for? You need Ryzen 1700 to shitpost on 4chan or fap to porn between the downtimes where you play vidya games? Fuck off moron. You are just like that idiot who was trying to sell getting 144hz secondary monitor last night because "dragging windows feels so much smoother".

>>61001710
I was stating the minimum cooler price to show how expensive the 7700k is beyond the CPU price

>>61001721
>If all you ever do is game and browse the net why would you need a better overall CPU performance for?

Because it's cheaper dumbass?

Posting again as I can't find shit for an answer any where.

>Build PC
>It switches it's self off when playing vidya
>Take to repair shop and they can't find a fault
>Replaced RAM, CPU, MB, GPU, PSU
>Playing Tekken 7 full screen no problem
>Darksiders makes the PC shut down immediately if I stretch the window to double size or full screen it on 2nd monitor (4K TV).
>Record it dying with HWinfo64 multiple times for logs to compare
>Not a heating issue

What the fuck should I be looking for now? Everything but the case and the hard drives been switched out but I don't know why full screening a game on 1 monitor would cause it to shut down but not on the other one. I am completely and utterly lost.

>>61001732
Then get the 1600 if you are so cheap.

>>61001721
I don't think you've got any understanding of what was being discussed, you are ridiculing yourself a lot right now. Take a break and stop grasping at strawmans.

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>>61001748
>Get a better CPU if you dislike wasting money so much
Sure!

>>61001745
Does it have an integrated GPU on the CPU? Did you try that instead of the dGPU and see if it still crashes?
Did you try a fresh install of your OS?

>>61001745
Try updating your drivers.
What GPU are you using?

>>61001768
>Check out my multitreading CPU which the average joe absolutely doesn't not utilize ever

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>>61001769
I've done a fresh OS install yea.

Speccy shot for what the PC is. Ryzen and a new Radeon card.

>>61001773
All drivers are up to date, BIOs are up to date. Installing new BIOS seemed to make it less frequent but now I have an insta crash so that can't be the problem

is the 4560 enough for a windows hypervisor?

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>>61001785
>Check out my cheaper yet more powerful all around CPU that the average joe might or might not benefit from but could still enjoy in gaymeing jsut the same

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>>61001785
Check out these 4.5GHz very expensive four cores that only 144hz gamers make use of! Yes, get that even with a 60hz screen!

>>61001818
>>61001816
Then get the 1600. Seriously. You seem upset that Ryzen cannot 144hz and want to be monkeys recommending shit that most people don't ever use. Heck, I reckon 99% of the people here don't even need computing power more than what a low end i5 can provide.