Is Windows 8.1 better than 10?

>>60991053
Yes, with Classic Shell.

Of course not, what kind of retarded thread is this?

>>60991076
agreed. it's what i dual boot with openSUSE.

No, Windows 8.1 is shit.

Windows 10 is less shit than 8.1.

Windows 8.1 with Classic Shell is the best windows right now.

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>>60991053
Windows 8.1 is way better.
>More streamlined experience, no mandatory updates, less nagging and a cleaner UI.

The full-screen start menu is pretty good when get used to it, it's like having a tool rack where you neatly line up your tools instead of throwing it all in a drawer.

Some tweaks:
>Remove bloat apps from start menu, run one line at the time in a admin powershell:

Get-AppXProvisionedPackage -online | Remove-AppxProvisionedPackage -online 

Get-AppXPackage | Remove-AppxPackage

>Make window border padding smaller, pic related:
Open up regedit.
Navigate to: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Desktop\WindowMetrics

Set BorderWidth and PaddedBorderWidth value to 0

>Remove features
I recommend to disable the features that you don't use, personally i remove every feature except media/dotnet (pic related).
Remember to download another browser before you remove the internet explorer feature.
After you have removed features and rebooted, you can run this command in an admin powershell to remove payload of unused features. (Future added features will download data from windows update if you remove the payload).

Get-WindowsOptionalFeature -Online | where { $_.State -match "Disabled" } | ` foreach { ` $_ = $_.FeatureName; ` DISM /Online /Disable-Feature /FeatureName:$_ /Remove ` } 

>Dual booting?
If you are dualbooting you can run this in an admin cmd shell to disable fast boot and hibernation:

powercfg /h off

>>60991053
yes.

>>60992390
pretty much sums it up. Good post anon.

>>60992390
Thanks, m8. God tier post.

So, where can I get an official ISO?

Why would i use 8.1 over 7? Not a gaymer.

>>60992907
>faster
>better resources management
>it looks cute

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>>60992876
Download the official tool from here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-gb/software-download/windows8

If you don't have a legit Windows 8.1 key, you can use one of these during the install:
https://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/jj612867(v=ws.11).aspx

>>60992907
If you are comfy with Windows 7 and it suits your needs, then there is no reason to upgrade. (Until 2020 that is.)
Windows 8 did however introduce Secure Boot and Fast Boot, where the first makes your system more secure when booting up the system, and the second one makes booting from a HDD significantly faster by using a hibernation-ish file during startup.

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Agreed. Win 8.1 is a Godsend

>>60992390
Doing gods work anon
Nice post

>>60993350
looks nice. too bad Windows' low res icons ruin it.

>>60993433
Feels more like i fucked up with screensiht desu.

>>60993474
>screensiht desu.
Dont remember writing this

>>60991053
>not running vista and only vista
it's like you hate ergonomics and a stable comfy feature rich GUI

>>60992390
>Make window border padding smaller,
>Open up regedit and navigate to:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Control Panel\Desktop\WindowMetrics
Fixed that for you.

>>60992390
>>60993700

how do I remove the border completely?

>>60991053 win8 is far better then win10!

just 1 question. how to disable the menubar on the right side?
(search, share, start, devices, settings)

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>>60994153
On desktop?
Right-click on taskbar, click on properties, navigate to "Navigation", disable the options.

Botnet aside, there is nothing that makes Win8 better than Win10

If comfy full screen start menu with tiles is what you like Win10 has that too and you can align tiles with much more freedom and sizes than Win8 allowed

It also finally has folder tiles which can contain other tiles

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>>60994218 thx for the replay. yes i the bar on the regular desktop. see picture, red circle.

how to disable that crap?

anyway, what is it good for / how to use it well?

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>>60994384
you can disable it with classic shell

>>60994384
Not him but that's the Charms Bar, to disable it you have to uncheck "When I point to the top-right corner, show the charms" as that Anon showed you.

You can also disable it by going into Change PC Settings > PC & Devices > Corners & Edges and turning the "When I point.." options off.

Otherwise, you can also use Classic Shell as (>>60994582) said.

>>60992907
Why would you use anything but XP?

>tfw upgraded from 8.1 to 10 when it was still free

i sometimes regret that

>>60991053
Not really. 8 feels even more incomplete than the first release of Windows 10. The control panel and settings segregation is really just horrible if you have to do anything more than just the basics and then you have the one size fits all design philosophy instead of an adaptive design like they're pushing with 10 to fit touchscreens/traditional desktops. They had some cool ideas though, like minimizing the traditional point and click control scheme, it's a shame they had to abandon some of the nicer changes to win back the hate bandwagonists.

>>60993350
How did you do that?

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>>60991053
>Winblows 8.1
>Winblows 10
nigger-tier pajeet OS.

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>>60994582
>>60994690

thx im trying your tips right now

>>60994740

that was the best windows ever so far. had it running for over a decade on 1 pc. never let me down! it had like 180mb up and running, unlike newer os with over a gig.

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>>60995363
>stalker
pls be my gf

install windows many months ago
>graphic card breaks because of some weird glitch in system analysis
install windows 10 a week ago
>ddr4 ram no longer functional

Installing windows has been a expensive pet project for me. What are the chances something breaks if I try 8.1?

Is there any open-source equivalents to KMSpico or Microsoft Toolkit for activation?

All I see in malware-infested shitware.

is it posible to add the windows 8.1 search everywhere in the newer builds of win 10?, the ink disappeared, and it seems microsoft removed those things (reference {C90FB8CA-3295-4462-A721-2935E83694BA} )

>>60995822
daz loader?

>>60995822
Same question

>>60991053
Yes, its the pro version of windows 10.
>Same compatibility
>Manual non-forced updates
>No cortana
>Visually similar
>No adds

Windows 8.1 is way faster than Windows 10. Also it has more FPS in games older than 2016.

>not using Thin PC instead with an EOL of 2021, 1 year longer than Windows 7
ishiggydiggydo~

>>60992876
https://datahoarder.eieidoh.net/msdn/Windows%208.1%20with%20Update/

>>60996303
I've heard that most versions distributed of Daz is infested with malware.

I can't seem to find source code for it either, unfortunately.

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>>60995822
not sure... but the official kmspico is here:

https://forums.mydigitallife.net/threads/kmspico-official-thread.65739/

You'll need an account to access it.

>>60999303
If it requires .NET 4.0 then assuming it's made in C#/VB I can decompile it and if necessary, de-obfuscate with de4dot.

I'll take a look.

>>60999504
Do it

>>60999595
Alright.

It was obfuscated to an extent, but compared to other obfuscated binaries I've come across, not that badly.

Might be worth making a git repository, but depends if anyone else wants to help getting this to compile (unless it does already) and testing it in a virtual machine with save states.

https://my.mixtape.moe/tecwfg.7z

>>60991053
under the hood only. it's very nimble and fast (much faster than vista and 7).

hideous interface though

Objectively no. I can't believe anyone would even use 8. Either stick with 7 until whenever you see fit, or go 10. If you can 'cope' with 8, you can do so with 10.

>>60991053

Windows 8.1 was the best release of Windows. Classic Shell is a meme and totally unneeded.
Anyone who browses with a keyboard is able to find anything with super+s because the search was great.
I wish Microsoft had the balls to stick with Metro and not go back like a little bitch.

>>60991053
No only 8.1 embedded industro pro blah blah is better than 10 regular 8.1 is still shit and will rape you with updates just like windows 10 and updated versions of 7.

If you don't want the update cancer 8.1 embedded is your only hope also reactOS

>>60991053
>Is a small poop better than a big poop?
lol kill yourself

>all this 8 love
Yikes, that theory was definitely true. People love being hipsters I guess.

>>61000153
>implying that I never loved 8 since release

It had the best interface for both computers and tablets. I honestly hate all the normies that ruined it because "muh start button".

>>60996930
>Also it has more FPS in games older than 2016.
Not for me

>>61000236
>>implying that I never loved 8 since release
Honestly I'm HORRIFIED that I have to share society with a sociopath like you.

>>61000121
you can choose to install only the security updates, so what's the problem?

>>61000257
Windows 8.1 was objectively superior to 7.

>proper USB 3.0 support
>natively mounting iso files
>better search function
>an interface that served both tablets and desktop in a great way

>>61000282
All these global spy agencies and they haven't LOCKED YOU UP yet. I'm disgusted.

>>60991053
i really liked 8.1 and i still do, but no it's not better

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>2013
>bought bf3
>my sistem is XP so i have to upgrade
>upgrade to windows 7
>frame rates is ok but bottleneck all over
>decide to try 8
>no start menu, shit metroui
>frame rates is higher and no bottleneck
>sometime later microsoft releases windows 8.1
>decide to upgrade
>2017

I'm Ok with Windows 8.1

>>60991053

I mean probably, but it still dosnt respect the users freedoms, for a piece of software to respect a users freedom it must obey the following freedoms

>freedom 0: The freedom to run the program as you wish, for any purpose
>freedom 1: The freedom to study how the program works, and change it so it does your computing as you wish
>freedom 2: The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
>freedom 3: The freedom to distribute copies of your modified versions to others

If a program is missing one of these softwares it is in fact non-free and proprietary and is doing you a great dis-service, and if you in anyway communicate with someone else in such a way that forces them to use it, you are harming society

>>60993350
Estelle a cute.

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>>61000040
>>61000153
>being this assblasted
8.1 is literally the best OS ever

>>61000630
Reported to NSA.
They'll love you son.

>>60993350
Did you get that wallpaper from that anon that said he "drew it" for us in that /g/ home screen thread a few weeks back?

>>60999303
>software crack
>plz buy legit guys
everytime

IMO, both 8 (8.1) and ten are shit. Stick with 7. Win 7 x64 can take up to 192GB of ram so your fine for a long time to come, seeing as how the average ram user here is like 8-16GB so really your limiting factor is board support. SATA interface ain't going away anytime soon and 7 supports gpt so your set for storage needs for a long ass time. That leaves cpu, which I think for both intel and amd top out at 8 core single cpus being supported. You could in theory grab a server board and if it supported it, stuff two 8 core cpu in it for total of 16 core but really i don't thank you'd need 16 core for much anything other than bragging or if your so anal about getting the fastest vid encoding times possible rather than just waiting an hr for it to get done.

This is it, memes where a mistake.

>>60991076
>>60991330

Agreed, I have put 8.1 on several modern but weak celeron an pentium notebooks that came with 10. Even after a clean reintstall 10 was quite sluggish. 8.1 flies in comparison, as fast as 7 but with more out of the box hardware support

The situation with those cheap notebooks reminds me of the early Vista days

>>61000909
Give me some non-meme reasons of why 8.1 is shit.

>>61001033
Ugly. Dysfunctional. Old. Probably going to lose mainstream support before 7.

Just upgrade to 10 already. 10 is what 8 should've been.

>>60991053
Yes

>>61001381
>Ugly
Metro is comfy as fuck

>Old.
It's as modern as 10

>Probably going to lose mainstream support before 7
Nice headcanon

>10 is what 8 should've been
What a fucking shill

>>60991053
if i hadn't bought forza horizon 3 and like playing halo, i'd never touch the garbage that is w10

8.1 master race, metro was ahead of its time

>>61001783
But you can play those games in 8

>>61001828
i searched up and down
i couldn't find a way to play them
please show me anon
i will uninstall this piece of shit so quick

>>60992390
>no mandatory updates
Available on every Windows 10 edition except Home.

>cleaner UI
The settings migration has barely started in 8.1 and a lot of things are inconsistent.

>The full-screen start menu is pretty good when get used to it, it's like having a tool rack where you neatly line up your tools instead of throwing it all in a drawer.
>rationalizing
Either way it's available in Windows 10 as well.

>Make window border padding smaller
No padding on Windows 10 out of the box.

>Remove features
>Dual booting
Works exactly the same on Windows 10

>>60991076
This.
>>60991330
Agreed.
>>60996717
^This guy gets it.

It's less resource-intensive, but you still have the ability to use Metro apps if you want to. You can still install the latest shit on it, you can disable updates, you don't have Cortana, it isn't leeching your bandwidth to P2P updates to other people, etc.

I'm no Windows fanboy. I multiboot Linux Mint, macOS Sierra and Windows 8.1 Pro.

If you're going to use Windows, 8.1 is the version to use.

>>61001945
>Available on every Windows 10 edition except Home.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>61002695
Retarded normies need to be forced to install updates to prevent shit like wannacry from happening.

>>61001945
>Available on every Windows 10 edition except Home.
Updates are mandatory in every W10 version

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>>61003333
You're so silly, Anon. It's almost cute.

>>61003382
Telemetry is mandatory too unfortunately.

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>>61003333
>>61003382
Having said that, straight up disabling updates is retarded.
You can ignore them indefinitely until you find a good moment to restart when and if they require a restart.

The last cumulative update includes changes to the kernel so it does require a restart but since I disabled automatic restarts it's waiting for me to do it manually.
The message is slightly misleading.

>>61003432
That screenshot was taken from the same page that describes how to take care of that too.

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>>61003439
I have an interesting screenshot too.

>>61003333
no they're not;

And i'm not even reffering to the administrative group policies settings, you can essentially "brick" your windows 10 (it's true that it's 90% more harder after you install creator's update) to not give them any data.

You won't have any updates beyond that point though, and depending on the use of the OS it's an important aspect or not, but apparently it's a price most people using those tools would ignorantly pay.

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>>61003475
I'll just repost the image from the other thread.
He misconfigured the main telemetry option. All his tests are void.

>>61003498
Either way, there's no escape.
https://archive.is/QFL8e
https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/#6c3f7e713a23
https://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-14/u-s-agencies-said-to-swap-data-with-thousands-of-firms
https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-personal-data-abused/

>>61003694
>https://archive.is/QFL8e
>I have chosen the customized installation option where I disabled three pages of tracking options.
>nothing else mentioned
That means that the telemetry was set to Basic. Test is void.

>https://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/#6c3f7e713a23
Non-enterprise users can't disable telemetry, that's absolutely correct.

>https://arstechnica.co.uk/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
They didn't list the options they used so I can't really comment.

>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-14/u-s-agencies-said-to-swap-data-with-thousands-of-firms
>https://edri.org/microsofts-new-small-print-how-your-personal-data-abused/
Unrelated to disabling telemetry.

>>60991053
>>61003439
Just reinstalled Windows 8.1 and it is comfy once you customize it. Bought Start8 and it's like a different version of Windows 7.

That said the only versions of Windows 10 worth using are the Enterprise LTSB versions. No Cortana, Edge, Store, and standard Win10 bloat. You can customize updates like 7 and 8.1 through Group Policy so no more forced automatic download and installs. Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB is what should have been the stock version of 10.

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>>61003754
Care to provide any proof at all or just assertions?
How about a Wireshark analysis with your proposed methods of stopping telemetry? Not to mention that they're not even hiding it and that Microsoft has been a participant of NSA's PRISM project since 2007.
https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/privacystatement

>>60991053
i prefer 8.0
the change was hugely unexpected, but by today's standards, it is a better product

metro Internet Explorer is amazing, and Nutella canned it for whatever stupid reason

>>61003960
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoSg3fSB7PA
This is it. We are done here.

>>61003960
If I posted a screenshot of a blank wireshark window you'd just call bullshit.
That's the issue with guilty until proven innocent.

I actually did my own tests and found out that there was an error in the technet article which listed the wrong policy for disabling time syncing (it has since been fixed) and that there's a scheduled task that downloads onedrive updates even if its policy is disabled unless you uninstall it via add/remove programs.
That's it.

>>61004000
>>61003981
Again, we are done here.

>>61004007
>using some random skid applications that claim to disable telemetry
>using edge which has its own set of policies and options which are not mentioned in said applications
The symantec thing is obviously a certificate update/check.

>>61004055
>using some random skid applications that claim to disable telemetry
Aren't they all like that really?

>>61004069
They are, which is why you should use https://docs.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/configuration/manage-connections-from-windows-operating-system-components-to-microsoft-services

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that one time i tried to update my windows 8.1 to 10 and i realized my pci-e ssd was not supported anymore and the graphics driver remnants fucked my windows over so hard i couldnt boot anymore. also all sorts of other problems, i dont know how they could fuck up windows 10 so bad but i know for sure that im never gonna use it again

>>61000990
You are completely fuckin stupid.

>>61004076
Interesting, although Microsoft won't really help you "defeat them in their own game".

>>60991053
Used 8.1 at my old job and I miss it now that I have to use 10. Only use loonix at home, but as long as you disable charms, 8.1 is pretty good.

>>60991053
>Is Windows 8.1 better than 10?

I don't know, I have no idea.

> Use GNU/Linux since Windows 98
> Buy laptop
> pre-infected with Windows 8 (know because I saved the box, always save the box if you may sell it someday)
> Try Windows, because other people use it so I should know some basics
> Windows is stupid and useless, install Fedora
> Buy new laptop 2 years later
> Wipe and install GNU/Linux on new laptop
> Decide to sell old laptop
> Try to re-install Windows on old laptop using various ISOs since legal key is supposedly in BIOS
> Windows 8 does not find the key from BIOS like it's supposed to
> Windows 8.1 from Microsoft's website also doesn't
> A Windows 10 OS from Microsoft finally manages to find the key and install

Turns out that either I or it updated to Windows 10 and the original BIOS key was overwritten.

I guess they really don't want you to be able to install anything but Windows 10 once a computer has been "upgraded" to it. I guess it's fine, it probably makes selling it easier.

>>60995363
Yeah, you stayed on xp until last year too right? People like you make me sick. You have no fuckin idea what you are missing with this old garbage.

>>61000153
Faster/Smoother than 7 while looking almost the same once you tweak it, there's literally no reason to use Windows 7 over 8.1 except for disabling Aero, and the only ones who care about that are autistic "MUH INPUT LAG!!!1" gamers.

>>61001381
>Ugly
OldNewExplorer and RibbonDisabler says "Hi".
>dysfunctional
How exactly?
>Old
Irrelevant.
>Could lose support before 7
Leaving aside the fact that it sounds unlikely, who cares? As long as companies don't lock hardware compatibility on purpose, everything's fine.
Even then, if certain persons like Zeffy patches that just like he did with Windows Upate on Ryzen & Kaby Lake, it'll all be fine too.

>>61004278
>missinh
Nothing.

>>61001828
No you can't, those are Windows 10 Exclusives (if by "Halo" that Anon meant the latest ones [Halo 5: Forge and the Spartan Assault games or whatever they were called]).

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yes, except Microshaft skipped it for Skylake/Kabylake+ support.

soon you won't be able to even buy hardware that can run 7 or 8.1 sadly

>>61004725
They did not. They only locked Windows Update if Windows 10 notices you're using a Ryzen or Kaby Lake CPU and for that there's this: http://www.github.com/zeffy/kb4012218-19

>>61004791
sure, and maybe the updates work for now. but it's a precarious situation to be in for a production system to potentially get an update that will break the system at a CPU level

>>60991053
Yeah but unfortunately I had to bite the bullet and "upgrade" to 10 because NVIDIA drivers for new gpus suck ass on 8.1.

>>60995150
BBZero + WinNexus, there is a software called "Autoruns" wich can disable unneeded winblows components from runnig at startup, for example i cant even boot in win desktop, like, at all
>>61000677
Nope, its from alpha.wallheaven

>>60991053
I'd be using it if it didn't have that annoying bug that resets your thumbnails for no reason.

>>61006118
>resets your thumbnails
Explain

Can you have that Linux Subsystem meme on 8.1?

>>60993498
desu
t b h

>>60991053
8.1 is much more stable, much more mature and it has less bugs and botnet on it.

for productivity I prefer working with 8.1 instead of 10

>>61004791
>literally updating through github
HERPADERPA JUS USE COMMON SENZZZ XDDD

>>60991053
Windows ME is better than Windows 10.

>>60991092
Fuck off, shill.

>>61006118
What

>>60994311
>If comfy full screen start menu with tiles is what you like Win10 has that too

why does anybody like that?
that tile nonsense is the reason I completely dismissed upgrading from win 7 in the first place

Much much better. 8.1 is the last decent MS OS. I still prefer 7 to it though, but if I ever to update it will be 8.1 it Linux.

>>61008510
Does Windows 8.1 have telemetry too?

>>60991053
I realize 8.1 has telemetry bullshit but is it nearly as bad as 10?

>>61008566
I think it depends on which updates you install. It's not as anal as 10 either way. It is the best OS for multimedia and gayming currently.

8.1 is the perfect OS if you're not using the default UI.

>>61008622
As much as there is in windows 7.

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>>61007952
>Psychopath that likes it reporting in.
I have a lot of programs installed, most of them i use rarely. (A lot of different engineering software and different versions for PLS and development.)
With the full-screen tiles start i can organize programs to a set spot under a category, so that it's fast and easy to find it.

I also pin the software that i use regularly to the taskbar.

>>60991053
Infinitely

>>60991053
No, it requires 3rd party bloat to work properly
It also still has all of the botnet, so you just get the botnet with a security hazard by installing classic shell for it to work properly

>>60993181
Right, because F8 wasn't enough, gotta make sure mah boot is secure

>all these fags not using GNU/Linux
Faggots.

server 2016 is the only windows desktop os worth using

>>60991053
8.0 with only security updates and classic shell is better than both

>>61011288
>8.0 with only security updates
Windows 8.0 doesn't get security updates anymore. It was vulnerable to WannaCry before Microsoft sent an emergency patch to old systems. Don't be that guy who gets everything infected.

>>60991053
No.

>>61012632
What about 8.1?

>>61013626
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8
>Support ended on January 12, 2016; must install Windows 8.1 in order to continue receiving updates and support.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_8.1
>Mainstream support until January 9, 2018
>Extended support until January 10, 2023

>>61013658
>in 2023 Windows 10 will reign supreme

>>61010727
What is dual boot

>>60993498
>>61006210
Google "4chan desu word filter"
I keep forgetting about it and accidentally writing desu, desu

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>>60993498

>>60996717
>Same compatibility
Better compatibility even... I've seen a lot of people having issues win10 not compatible with things for no apparent reason.
>No adds
Tracking aside, I will never update to win10 on my home computer because of this. That microsoft shopping extension ad especially - unbelievable.

>>61013851
Six years to developed ReactOS and wine

>>61000040
If you'd read this thread you'd know that the few things that make win8 crap can easily be disabled. Nothing to 'cope' with, anon, not like win10.

>>61007952
Because I can fit a lot more programs in one full screen than in a crappy side menu.

And it's also one click away from seeing it. So might as well.

Win 10 > Win 8.1

Problem with Win 10 is that it feels unfinished. Seems like they stitched a web UI interface on top of the old Win32 mess and called it a new system.

But for all I need it's good enough. I don't obsess over OSes. They're just tools.

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>>61016035
pic related

Windows 8.1 + Classic shell + a couple of tweaks is the best Windows to date, especially on lower end hardware thanks to no Aero blur.

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>>60993350
>(((Chrome)))

>>61016289
What am I supposed to see hear?

>>60991053
I like the sounds in windows 8.1 better than 10.

>>60996639
>Same
>>60995822


There is, use vlmcsd

>>61016415
It's supposed to illustrate the utility of the fullscreen start menu.

>my particular flavor of botnet is better than your particular flavor of botnet
How can a Windows user claim superiority over another Windows user? You're all the same suckers for using non-free malicious software.

>>61003333
>Updates are mandatory in every W10 version
I have 10 and I only restart once every 1-2 months to install updates by choice. Just disable the auto-reboot task in task scheduler and it will never bother you again.

>>61000299
>having your framerate issues solved by windows 8.1

wut

>>61016035
>>61016289
>>61016415
>being ok with ads on your system

the shit people are willing to put up with astounds me

desu

I unironically love the Metro Start Menu

>>61020524
Me too, it really grew on me. I used to use Classic Start but I don't even get rid of the Metro menu when I set up a Windows 8 VM

>>61020536
It's beautiful and I like having a start screen that displays me with news, weather, emails etc when I log in. I wonder if there are any other programs that can also do this for win7&10 as well as loonix.

Was convinced to use Windows 8.1 until I remember the UI is aids because muh "Touch optimization"

>>60991053
is gorillas poo better than lions poo?

Does 8.1 still do that dumshit where I hit the Windows key and instead of opening the start menu it opens up that godawful charms screen or whatever. Haven't used it as a main OS in a few years but I do remember there was a way you could "mostly" disable the charms screen.
However I decided to try Win 8.1 out again a few months ago in lieu of Win 10; spent 40 minutes tinkering around with stuff and I couldn't get rid of the charms menu so I just went back to Win 7. All Win 8.1 has over 7 anyways is native USB 3.0 and slightly better file transferring algorithms.

>>61021695
>Does 8.1 still do that dumshit where I hit the Windows key and instead of opening the start menu it opens the start menu?
Yes.

>>61021695
I don't think it ever did that, or at least I changed this around so long ago I don't remember seeing anything but start.

Charm can't be complete disabled, but from my experience unless you don't have a scroll wheel or have an odd tick where you move the mouse pointer to the lower right as a resting spot you'll very rarely see it.

In almost every way. Especially ui; Windows 10 ain't got no consistent ui whatsoever.

>>61021230
>hurr I have superior taste because I eat chimp shit

>>61008622
yea they added more telemetry with the updates.

>>61021695
>Does 8.1 still do that dumshit where I hit the Windows key and instead of opening the start menu it opens up that godawful charms screen or whatever.
install classic shell for this

>>61020524
Metro is the best UI