/pcbg/ - PC Building General

>Please be nice to people asking questions.
Well you can't be surprised for unpolite responses when people ask shit without even reading the OP first

>>60978712
wtf happened to that mobo/cpu/cooler?

what's the cheapest amd gpu I can buy for warband

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Moving in a couple of months trying to find a new monitor/tv for when I get to the new place. Cant decide between

Sony XBR55X850D
>Native 120hz also has 4k for furture proof stuff but a tv

Seiki Pro SM40UNP
>40 in monitor
>4k 60hz

I can't really run 4k yet. I am open to other suggestions. Really want something at least 40in for space.


Also think my mobo and ram are really holding me back. Should I upgrade or wait until a graphics card that can actually run 4k to upgrade everything?

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Thinking about doing a new build and jumping from Mini ITX to mATX. There seems to be very limited selections of decent mATX cases

Can anyone speak as to the quality of the Silverstone TJ08 for a build today? I love the case but I fear that I/O might be not so great and cable management might not be up to par.

Post/Recommend other mATX cases that aren't fucking huge and basically ATX cases in disguise.

>pic related is Silverstone TJ08

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I'm building a microATX ryzen computer for 1440p/144Hz and VR gaming. Until we find out whether vega is good or not I'll be moving an XFX r9 290 into it. I can't find 2x8gb 3200mHz ram thats compatible so I'm sticking with 3000mHz. I'm also interested in trying to make it silent (hence the H60)
Looking for opinions and suggestions.

>>60978890
Liquid coolers have a pump in them (which is noisy) and this is a single 120mm fan you got in there
You'd get less noise with a similarly priced air cooler.

>>60978890
>Always consider an SSD. Try buying a large SSD for what you'd pay for your SSD+HDD combined, and add a HDD later

Try reading the OP

>>60978852
Nothing wrong about TV, as long as the response time is decent.

>>60978890
I have that mobo and processor.
Yeah the RAM compatibility is still lacking. It's great otherwise. You can OC comfortably to 3.6 3.7 on the stock cooler. Whch is more than enough for gaming, and is relatively quiet.
That RAM is fine.
Yeah, I'd wait for Vega aswell.
I recommend getting a Hitachi Ultrastar 3TB for like $66 usd. It's the best price/quality

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1. Im moving cross country in a year and I was wondering do I have to take apart my computer completely to keep it safe.

2. I'm building a high end computer do I get a 7700k or an amd processor. I don't know much about amd.

>>60978883
god, that's hideous.
Also
>top mount PSU
no

>>60978969
I did read the OP anon. I just have the money to get everything I want this time.

>>60978970
I'll look into the 3TB then, thanks anon.

>>60978883
here's my suggestion.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/vPp323/fractal-design-focus-g-mini-black-microatx-mini-tower-case-fd-ca-focus-mini-bk-w

>>60978890
>I'm also interested in trying to make it silent (hence the H60)
Topkek. With the H60 you'll achieve the opposite. Get a silent air cooler instead.
RAM issues should be fixed with ne next big BIOS update, i wouldn't worry about it. SSD is decent, maybe get the PNY CS1311 or Samsung 850 Evo instead. Do swap the WD Blue for Toshiba P300 though.
Case looks decent, personally i'd go for a Define S or C. Regardless what case you chose, add silent fans like Noctua or Be Quiet to it, most come with only one fan.
The speakers are trash, do yourself a favour and buy powered monitors or at least decent bookshelf/desktop speakers.

>>60970878
Made some adjustments
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DYGZ7h

>>60979009
>>60978948
Air cooler, got it. TY

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>>60978980
>I don't know much about amd.
AMD has a long history of engineering breakthroughs, the biggest one they often brag about is how they invented the 64 bit CPU with the Athlon 64, which all CPU's use today. To this day, a lot of people still refer to it as AMD64 when talking about ANY 64 bit chip..'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LKxzYFU5a_U
This doesn't mention Ryzen since the video's a few years old, but Ryzen is a huge breakthrough as well. The RYzen program was the pet project of AMD's current CEO, Dr. Lisa Su, pic related.

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>>60978984
>he clearly lacks any sort of refined taste in aesthetics
I bet this is your case you pleb
>>60979005
Still pretty big at 18" deep and 15" tall

>>60979056
I have this case but in white
Love it

>>60979049
So what does amd make that is better than the 7700k? Or is the 7700k adequate for gaming and streaming?

>>60978980
Get a Ryzen 1700

>>60978712
What is the service charge of websites build your custom PC for you?

>>60979091
What is the value of the product though anon? How much farther does your dollar go with as 7700K vs an R5 1600 right now?

>>60979102
is there a mother for amd that is equivalent to asus z270f? are all aios compatible?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01N6E5DGE/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_dp_T1_XMQrzbZZ3HDCR

>>60979173
>>60979102
if i do not overclock will it still be enough to stream and game?

>>60979091
The 7700k is the king of 144 fps gaming. so long as you have nothing else going on in the background. The 7700k's performance can be attributed to its fantastic single-thread performance and high clockspeeds.

However, the current recommendations for gaming builds center around AMD's Ryzen processor line ups. The Ryzen 5 1600 is the golden CPU at the moment. It had 6 cores and 12 threads (2 more cores, and 4 more threads than the 7700k) which gives it amaxing performance, especially since it's a minimum of $100 cheaper but can match the 7700k in many games, if not being slightly slower. The 1600 comes ahead when you do anything other than gaming though. It's better at streaming, multi-tasking, and running CPU--intensive programs.
And as a bonus, while only the K chips in Intel's line ups are overclockable, ALL of AMD's Ryzen chips are unlocked and overclockable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mfrBYKd_qAs

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Hows my build ? Anything I should change ? It will be my first build (already have the case )

Need to buy a wireless adapter, any recommendations or things I should look for?

>>60979253
Don't get an i5
Don't get that PSU
Don't get a 3GB 1060
Don't get 2133Mhz RAM

>>60979253
I would read >>60979246

and recommend the 1600 for about 5 bucks cheaper. It would also allow you to save atleast another 50 bucks on an AM4 botherboard. Just make sure your ram is good for it.

>>60979253
>Hows my build ?
Shit.
>Anything I should change ?
Everything.
>inb4 hurr durr spoonfeed me
Read OP and last thread.

>>60979253
Did you even read the OP nigger? Get an R5 1600 not an i5 you dumb coon.

>>60979291
Explain him why or stop posting

>>60979173
>is there a mother for amd that is equivalent to asus z270f?
Yes. AMD B350 boards are equivalent to Intel's B250 boards. BUT The B350 boards support crossfire and overclocking.
The full-fat X370 chipsets though matches features with Intel's Z270 boards, and I believe has more PCIe lanes as well, though someone can correct me if I'm wrong.

>are all aios compatible?
Not at the moemnt. Ryzen was released a few months ago. However, many companies are already working on brackets for Ryzen's AM4 platform. Cooler Master already has a bunch and if you don't have the bracket, just go on their site and they will send you the AM4 bracket for your kit free of charge.

>>60979240
Plenty. The 1700 has 8 cores and 16 threads.

>>60978712
>lazyfag
Bought a gtx 550 ti years ago b/c price/performance
what is comparable today?

>>60979333
1050 ti. If you can afford it jump up to a rx 570

Is it safe to buy parts on sale now while I wait for Vega or should I buy them when Vega is released?

>>60979240
Plenty of performance at stock

>>60979246
but I dont know anything about overclocking. so i already have 1080ti and a 1440p monitor, now im trying to figure out do i get a amd cpu or intel. and i just made the changes to the part list for a amd cpu and it says the cooler has compatiblity issues. lol i think im to dumb for a amd processsor.

>>60979358
Its about as safe as its ever going to get without a sudden flash sale or black friday. I'm purchasing them now.

Worst case scenario for using ddr4 RAM that isnt in the qvl for an am4 mobo? Is it the pc not getting past post or is it the RAM getting clocked to 2133?

>>60979358
Buy parts you're 100% sure you can and whille use if on sale only, otherwise buy them later.
Things will most likely become cheaper, take a look at the price history.

>>60979378
Some report to not being able to POST at all but that's probably with some shit RAM.
If you have wide spread RAM like Corsair LPX or G.Skill Ripjaws V it will boot at 2133 at worst case. My new Ryzen with Ripjaws V 3200 CL16 booted at 2133 without issues.

>>60979378
Worst case scenario is not getting past 2133Mhz
But its very likely to get to 2933Mhz, thanks to updates
Only 3200Mhz and above have some problems

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reposting this in new bread too since last time you were so kind as to give me some solid advice

I've decided to build my own pc, this is the second time I do so, but being the first almost fifteen years ago, I might be very much out of the loop.

I've a budget of ~700€ (the maximum being 800€), I'm from Italy.
I would use this mainly as a gaming platform (I already have a laptop for work related things); I play quasi exclusively single player games, and something that could run nicely fallout 4, witcher 3 and the latest asscreeds (pls don't judge) would be ideal.
I already have a monitor, it's an Asus vw222s (1680x1050, 80.2/75 hz refresh rate) and I don't plan for the time being to buy a new one; mouse+keyboard would be a nice addition.

What do you recommend me? What's your advice in the matter?
I already have a vague idea, thanks to a lot of fiddling around pcpartpicker, but I would like to hear your opinion.

thanks in advance

___

some ideas after your recommendations
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/GvdV9W
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/list/wsvyd6

>>60979366
Think of it this way. Do you do ANYTHING else running in the backgrounds while gaming? Even streaming software.
If yes, get Ryzen.
You can change the cooler to one that works with Ryzen. Not every company has brackets available. Cooler Master is very good at it. if your kit doesn't have an AM4 bracket, they will send you one free of charge, so look at their coolers

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upgrading from a 8320 with 2 7870s in xfire. I can't play any new games with medium graphics. tell me what you think? My last thread got derailed my a cum statined desk. My fault though.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/qc8gjc

using old parts for power and cooling.

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Gonna start ordering parts very soon, anything I should change here?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zTGZ7h

>>60979291
I don't need anything super good to be honest, just casual gaming and don't care about graphics much.

>>60979300
OPs recommendations are shit, why would I reference it?

>>60979474
Get 16GB of faster RAM and a 1600 and that Ryzen build is great
https://it.pcpartpicker.com/product/LhgPxr/gskill-memory-f43000c15d16gvrb
Not too much more expensive and twice the amount + much faster
And the 1600 is only 25€ more than the 1500x and it has 2 extra cores/4 extra threads

>>60979589
Change the Ryzen 5 1600 for the Ryzen 7 1700. MOAR CORES

>>60979640
because you're clearly a retarded shill if you think those recommendations are shit

>>60979598
There you go
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FQXwvV

>>60978712
What's the most recommended tiny little PC chassis that I can build a computer with to fit in the living room? We're talking like small console size. Something I can tuck away in an entertainment center. Chassis cost isn't a problem.

Gracias.

>>60978712
Did it died?

>>60979648
thanks
what about 3x4gb ram?

>>60979691
would this be for a home theater PC or a full fat normal spec desktop? Price will be about the same either way.

>>60979690
Add an Evo 500gb ssd and this is pretty much exactly what I just built, solid choice.

>>60979705
Most won't run above 2133Mhz
And Ryzen really likes fast RAM

>>60979719
The AGESA Bios/UEFI updates should fix this.

>>60979532
Cheaper and better
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3Zs3Gf

>>60979736
They might do, but I recommend just getting a 16GB 3200Mhz dual kit

>>60979691
This one is pretty small and looks nice
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GsZ2FT/fractal-design-case-fdcanode202bk

>>60979708
full fat normal pc to play in living room w/ keyboard and mouse

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Should I ACTUALLY wait for Vega?
I'm thinking about buying a 580 (Probably try to buy one secondhand from a miner)
But would Vega be a better option or at least wait and see if its release drops 580 prices?

>>60979794
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/GsZ2FT/fractal-design-case-fdcanode202bk
gorgeoussss

Anyone got that PSU image chart?
Is the Corsair VS650 any good?
What about EVGA 600w and 600B?

>>60979879
Just get a 1070.

>>60979913
>Is the Corsair VS650 any good?
No.
>What about EVGA 600w and 600B?
EVGA B series is good for basic build for performance/OC build i suggest you look at their G2/3 series PSUs or Seasonic G or Prime series.

>>60979980
Why?

So what are the best CPU coolers?

>>60979879

The only thing worth buying now is a 1080. prices of everything else are too high, even 1070's.

>>60979874
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/fY6WvV

BTW, I'm not an Intel shill, but AMD Ryzen only has shit ITX boards at the moment.

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>>60979995
I don't have much choices unfortunately
What about the Antec VP 700P? This picture says the Antec VP series is pretty good

>>60979401
>>60979446
Alright, thanks for the answers. Im just worried about buying the parts and not getting past post.

is 4k gaming worth it? I've never owned a 144hz monitor but i'm thinking about going 4k with freesync/gsync instead of a 1440p 144hz monitor

>>60980164
depends on the games you play desu senpai

>>60980187
mostly like dota 2, dark souls, indie games, maybe some upcoming games like MH world, or pillars of eternity, darkest dungeon

>>60980144
>Antec VP 700P?
No idea about that one. All i can tell you is that i have a 7 year old Antec VP450 which is still going strong. Should be fine for basic usage, idk about OC. Check Jonnyguru, maybe he reviewed it.

>>60980160
>Im just worried about buying the parts and not getting past post.
This can always happen and you will have to deal with it either way. If you see some very good deal then buy. For example i got my R5 case for 79€ and XFX RX470 4G for 169€ a few month ago. The R5 usually goes for 100€ and the RX470 for 200€... well sold it for 250€ because muh miners.

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>tfw fantasizing about dropping a /g/ at microcenter for my perfect ryzen rig
>turns into a nightmare when they tell me that all the memecoin faggots bought the AMD vidya cards

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7M8NwV

Put together my first build today, ordered everything and shit, how's it looking?

>>60980335
looks good to me

>>60979589
16GB RAM would come in handy
Get 3200Mhz, should only be a few bucks more expensive

>>60980335
Get faster RAM and gold PSU for OC.

>>60980144
Ignore those PSU tier lists
The antec VP is a solid budget PSU
Nothing amazing, but you wont run into any issues

>>60980353
thanks

>>60980394
Will getting something like 3000Mhz make such a big difference?
I was trying to keep costs down so just bought those sticks off eBay for like $85.

How's AMD doing with Ryzen? Surely with everyone everywhere shitting on Intel and praising Ryzen they're bound to have a make a huge jump in the market, right?

Genuinely asking, wondering if there's already any numbers out there.

>>60980519
numbers exist..somewhere

>>60980519
check these numbers

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ggnWTH

Alright, now it's crunch time, The fans are on but the motherboard won't post. Graphics card isn't installed yet, Did I more likely fuck up the ram or the CPU?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/jxMHTH

First time build, mainly for a 3D modeling and video editing workstation, with some occasional gaming. Upgrading from a midrange 2009 laptop.

Got the i5 for $120 because employee

>>60980481
Yes but difference will vary depending on your usage. For gaming while noticeable it's still not that big of an issue, for applications it is.
The price difference shouldn't be that high, maybe $10-20 and that's worth the investment. It's highly recommended to get at least 2666 for Ryzen.

>>60980519
>have a make a huge jump in the market
No. Intel still holds most if not all B2B contracts for OEM sellers which means AMD will have a tough time entering that market, for now.
Idk about B2C but i guess Ryzen made a noticeable cut into the market. That's probably why Intel rushed the X299 Comubstion Lake meme that's being btfo right now.

>>60980570
>Graphics card isn't installed yet
Retard. Ryzen doesn't have an integrated GPU. You need to install the GPU and connect you monitor to it, otherwise you will see a black screen, obviously.

>>60980607
Did you already buy the i5?

>>60979024
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/DYGZ7h
it looks fine. but I think that you could use your money more efficiently.
Do you really need that Motherboard?
Are you doing some heavy OC?
That cooler is good. But IIRC the 1700X comes with the Wraith spire Max, and it's not too far off from the cryorig one.

>>60979690
Change the HDD for a 3TB Hitachi Ultrastar(for the same price) and you're golden.

>>60980556
>Off_by_one.png

>>60980570
........
install the graphics card. The Ryzen R5 family does not have Integrated Graphics.

>>60980625
Yes

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>>60980635
Even with the discount you got, you still paid $20 more than what you would've with an R5 1600 build and yet you're still getting a massively inferior CPU for the tasks you do
I'm sorry anon

>>60980607
>mainly for a 3D modeling and video editing workstation, with some occasional gaming
You want Ryzen. Don't argue, just get Ryzen.
>Got the i5 for $120 because employee
Seal not broken yet? Sell it for $200 and buy a R5 1600 or R7 1700.

Only downside is that an ITX build is not really a good choice with Ryzen since the only ITX mobos are from Biostar, but mATX should be fine.

>>60980607
>i5
>Video efiting
>3D modelling
DON'T.

suggestions:

>Get a Ryzen 1700 completely destroys the i5 . Curently the best bang/buck for modeling and rendering, since rendering LOVES those 8 cores and 16 threads. You can OC it to 3.6 super stable with the stock cooler.
>Get a Windows 10 pro key from Kinguin.net
>The AM4 ITX boards from AsRock and Gigabyte should be rolling out at the begining of next month or so.
>you can get a kit of 2X8GB 3200 RAM at newegg for $115

if you get Ryzen you might have a system that lasts you as long as your old laptop did.

>>60980608
>That's probably why Intel rushed the X299 Comubstion Lake meme that's being btfo right now.
X299 is a great platform, stupid shill.
https://youtu.be/Ul8bxyDiOVU?t=7m49s
Have fun buying 3.2ghz processors in 2017 lmao while I'll have fun with my 5.3ghz chip made by actual professionals.

>>60980763
nice 1% performance improvements you got there on a much more expensive motherboard and at the cost of iGPU
And those are delidded even, stock must be identical

>>60980280
Yeah it truly sucks
I was incredibly fortunate to buy the last RX570 at baseline MSRP that was in stock before the miners took over.

>>60980335
Yeah ram could be improved. if you got it really cheap then there's no helping it. There's a kit of 2x8Gb 3000 memory at newegg. i dont remember if it was gskill trident or corsair though.

and why are you paying 100+ for that GPU? you can get a 1060 6 GB for $250

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>>60980763
>rebranded 7700K with iGPU disabled
>"""""professional usage""""""
>5.3ghz chip made by actual professionals.
>gets shit on by Threadripper
>needs to be delidded
>requires at least an AIO to not melt
>that price
>for such little performance gain
>on an already dead platform
>calling others shills
0.00001 shekel have been deposited to your Intel Extreme account.

>>60980845
>>60980335
sorry I sent that earlier, i meant this RAM kit. at $115
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232180

Right, just finished building my first PC

I just turned it on and it said my M.2 was in a pcie slot and it wouldn't work that way?

I definitely put it in the right slot, although there are 2 slots to use

what do I do

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My question is - since the rx 4xx/ rx 5xx efficiency for Ethereum will drop soon AND AMD announced there will be Ryzens with B2 stepping released sometime soon, will it be wise to wait and buy a Ryzen cpu B1 + a miner's rx 580? Is that a viable way to get a somewhat uptodate PC and save some money?

>>60980920
post pics of installation.
you used the correct M.2 slot? there are some M.2 ULTRA and M.2 normal ones.

or are you on SLI or something that consumed all the available PCIe lanes?

>>60980920
probably shares that slot with the pcie slot so use the other m2 slot

>>60980845
For most of the shit I got, I payed a few bucks below pcpartpicker prices.
Came out to exactly $1058 before rebates.
Got the GPU for $300 w/ a $30 rebate I wanna take advantage of.

If it really bothers me I might just upgrade the RAM soon anyways. Or maybe I'll wait to see if prices go down in a year or so.

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ok so im planning on upgrading and already purchased the ryzen cpu and asrock motherboard. I was only planning on upgrading my cpu,motherboard and graphics card but now that i look at it should i also upgrade my ram and fan? (my ram is a hyperx blue 8g but didnt see it on the part picker list)

>>60980954
I used the slot next to the CPU and ram slots

There's another one on the bottom of the board
>>60980959

>>60980937
Implying miners won't just jump on other cryptos.
It might not be as profitable, but they already own the hardware.

>>60980937
>Ryzens with B2 stepping
Reliable source?
>a miner's rx 580
Do you really want to buy a card that has been running 24/7 at 100% load with mediocore to bad cooling for a prolonged time?
Imho buy such a card only if the price is really good and it still has at least a few month of warranty. Those cards will most likely be time bombs.

>>60980965
>212 EVO in 2017
>GTX reference card
>bronze PSU on R7 and Taichi
What the fuck is wrong with you?

>>60980965
if your old motherboard uses DDR3 ram, than it's guaranteed you need new ram. ALL the Ryzen motherboards require DDR4 ram, which is a different standard. DDR3 WILL NOT PHYSICALLY FIT in a DDR4 slot.

>>60980963
Not too bad anon.
Enjoy your new PC!
I recommend getting a second monitor. Once you have 2 you'll never go back.

>>60980983
okay, then post build. some boards have compatibility issues with certain M.2 modules.

>>60980999
Asus z270H

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>>60980989

I just ggogled ryzen b2

https://www.techpowerup.com/234476/amd-readies-b2-stepping-of-the-ryzen-summit-ridge-silicon

About timebombs...sorry, I feel really dymb. After you said it that way I can see that's not a good idea at all.

That AMD WAITING ™ thing is driving me nuts, I hope those fixed Ryzens won't take long to appear on the shelves.

>>60980999
Thanks man, I'm pretty stoked for it.
I was really tempted to get a second one, probably will at some point lol

Only one of the motherboard screws and the standoff lines up, what happens if I leave it like that?

>>60980965
Ok anon, this build has some serius logical issues.

the 1700X comes with the Wraith spire Max, wchich is probably better than the 212EVO.
the Taichi is pretty much the best AM4 board out there. get it if you can pay the price, but you dont "really need it".
get and SSD if you don`t have one already.

get a good PSU at least gold rated and 600-650W to have some good headroom. If you're already dropping the dough for the 1080Ti you probably have some spare cash for a decent PSU.
get this RAM or better.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820232180

>>60981041
from the Mobo webpage:

*1 The M.2_1 socket shares bandwidth with SATA_1 port when using M.2 SATA mode device. Adjust BIOS settings to use SATA device.
*2 Intel® Optane Technology only supported when using 7th Generation Intel® Processors. Before using Intel® Optane memory modules, ensure that you have updated your motherboard drivers and BIOS to the latest version from ASUS support website.
*3 Due to limitations in HDA bandwidth, 32-Bit/192kHz is not supported for 8-Channel audio
*4 Windows® 8.1 64-bit and Windows® 7 32/64-bit are only supported when using 6th Generation Intel® Processors.

>>60980989
>>60980992
i built my pc in like the beginning of 2014
So is my powersupply satisfactory? also can i get a reccomendation for a ddr4 ram and cpu fan or would any recent model do?

>>60980660
>>60980671
>>60980716


Alright, I'll look into it. The stuff I'm doing isn't too heavy either, just lego autism home movies.

>>60981095
Cryorig H7 for a cooler.
As to ram, get 3200 mhz ram, dual channel kit (so 2 or 4 sticks) of however much ram you want.

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>>60980999
>>60981078

I switched slots for the M.2 and it just werks now happy days

I'm in the bios now

Is 30 degrees celcius for motherboard and CPU normal or is that high?

>>60981151
>is 30 degrees celcius for MoBo and CPu nromal or is that high?
>mfw it's 40ºC ouside temperature
36ºC-37ºC is the average body temperature.

30ºC very low temperature, will probably reach 40ºC while idle depending on your cooler. You should worry when the CPU is at above 70ºC or the mobo at above 50ºC

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>>60980608
>>60980627

Thanks bros. I misread what the motherboard meant by Onboard Graphics (APU Required).

Gonna start buying parts soon, anything I should change here?

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/zTGZ7h

>>60981208
Ah alright I' using a noctua DH15

>>60981078
>>60981139
thanks guys i apreciate the help!

>>60981060
Interesting. Could be worth the wait. Regardless, if you can wait until Vega release then you should. My guess is that prices will drop, especially GPU and RAM, hopefully. Memecoin really needs to crash and burn.
>I feel really dymb
Tbh i also considered buying such a card but a used GPU is hit or miss. It's rare to find a mint condition GPU and i doubt you will find anything other than mining wrecks in the RX market after memecoin crashes.

>>60981095
>So is my powersupply satisfactory?
Satisfactory is the correct term. But for a build like yours you should really not cheap out on the PSU.
>reccomendation for a ddr4 ram and cpu fan
G.Skill Ripjaws V 3200 CL16 or Corsair LPX 3000 CL15 for value, G.Skill Trident Z 3200 CL14 for performance, this one will be expensive.
For the cooler.. well, there are many options. Thermalright Silver Arrow, Macho Rev. B, True Spirit Direct/Power, Noctua NH-D15, NH-U14S, Scythe Fuma, Mugen 5, Be Quiet idk if it's compatible and yeah.. there are a lot of options.

>>60981226
>The beefiest air cooler on the market
>worrying about temps
I hope you overclock whatever you have at ludicrous frequencies.

>>60981221
looks pretty good.
Only that I think you're cheaping out a bit on the network adapter, get at least a dual band AC or something for like 10-15 pounds more.

Other than that go for it anon!

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still waiting assembly, too lazy to do it.

just got my acer XF27hu-a

rate and hate

>>60981280
Next question

I have 3200 ram but it's showing as 2133

Is changing the frequency in the "ai tweaker" menu the right thing to do?

>>60981346
ah yes of course
Update your bios, then enable XMP. if that doesn't cut it enter the values manually.

>>60981364
So not the ai tweaker thing?

Also for some reason the bios won't actually let me apply anything, it's grayed out

>>60981376
you were the one with the asus MoBo?
I don't really know my way around that specific bios. Read your manual that should get you moving. most DDR4 non-budget modules come with an XMP profile, which the system detects automatically to apply the Memory OC.

you may change the "memory profile" from "auto" to "XMP" or something like that, probably in the "OC tweaker" or however it's called in your UEFI

>>60978803
Overclocking when Intel warned them not to.
Obviously.

>memes aside, it looks like someone took a bat, or some sort of tool, and beat the shit out of it. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

>>60981440
There is an option for XMP but it said something about my CPU too?

I don't really want to overclock my cpu

>>60981458
the XMP is only for the memory. it should not move anything CPU related.
Post build please.

>>60978980
>1
Not completely, but it might be a good idea to remove your cooler and graphics card depending on their weight.

>>60981474
7700K (don't mock me)
z270H
DH15 cooler
Corsair 3200 LPX
EVGA 650 supernova psu
crucial m.2
firecuda sshd
EVGA GTX 1080 ti

>>60981451
That's not how you greentext you idiot
please lurk more

>>60981451
>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
hello cia ᶘ ᵒᴥᵒᶅ

Can somebody build me the best possible performance pc build I could get for $1000?

>>60981500
there's nothing to mock you about. the 7700K delivers the highes fps in games in the market to date, and will provide the least bottleneck for that 1080ti.

there are tons of guides online and a lot of youtube videos regarding OC and probably the specifics of OCing with your specific mobo and CPU

Now, PLEASE overclock it. With that cooler you can go balls to the wall and make it truly shine.

anyway, did you manage to boot at 3200mhz?

>>60981549
do it yourself

>>60981550
I turned XMP on and it says the profile is DDR4 3200 1.35V

BUT on the info part in the bios it still says I'm running at 2133mhz?

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>>60978980
I moved from the UK to Canada a year or so ago and had the same worry. I ended up taking out the graphics card (since everything else was kinda shit-tier) and putting it in separate luggage with lots of protection. The rest of my rig was just wrapped in about two inches of bubble wrap and came out fine.

Can anyone vouch for or against this case? It's in my budget and I don't really know what else I should be looking for.

https://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811146114

>>60981549
>performance.

tell us what this PC will be used for
If gaming state the desired target, wether resolution or framerate.

>>60981501
>lurk more

No, if anything I should be here less. How no one in my workplace has complained about 4chan being open for the last six years is beyond me.

As for "how green text werks", MEH.
Unless there is a rule banning the exact way I just used it, I suggest you stop being anal about it.

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Had to RMA my Zotac 1070 Mini because it died. It has just been delivered to Zotac and the 1070 Mini is out of stock everywhere, assuming the RX580/570 frenzy has driven up demand for them. What are the chances they will just send me a 1080?

>>60981572
did you save the settings and exit (which reboots) from the BIOS itself?

>>60981530
Unicode bud, no CIA skills needed.
The question is now "how did you make that face.. tis adorable".

>>60981593
yes

>>60981616
updated the BIOS?
also have you installed your operative system?

>>60981641
Haven't done my OS yet

How do I update? I didn't install an optical drive


Should I install OS and then get the updates online?

>>60981660
the easiest way to update bios is with a flashdrive formatted to FAT32 and downloading the file from the MoBo webpage. the MoBo has a "flash update" utility or something like that. just mkae sure to plug the flashdrive to one of the motherboard USB 2.0 connectors because sometimes the drivers for the other USB ports are disabled.

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This seems like it could be cool, although how cool will it run?

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WTF is going on with Sapphire re-up? Had my card pre-ordered, the date got pushed back several times. Now the reseller updated it to the end of July. FUCKING REEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>60981826
>cancel order
>get 1060 6GB instead
Really simple

>>60981826
if your price is unchanged then stick with it. you may be able to seel it and get a 1080 with the profit.

>>60981809
i heard those mini cards RAM overheats
was thinking of getting the mini single fan version of the gigabyte 1060 but ended up getting the long form 2 fan version

>>60981809
Unless you really need to fit it in micro case, get something bigger because GPU BOOST 3.0 likes as much thermal overhead as it can take.
If you're willing to undervolt it a bit you should pretty good temps, since pascal warms up a lot only on last mVolts.

>>60981848
Would miners buy a 4 gb Pulse RX 580?

>>60981956
yeah, for about $500-$600 atm.
check the prices on ebay and such.

>>60981859
ram can go up to 130 degress, so that questionable.

>>60981865
good to know, im considering a mitx power build but at this point matx seems like its better in everyway bar size

>>60981451
>¯\_(ツ)_/¯
>>>/reddit/

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Hey /g, In the Uk building my first rig, budget is 400 pounds and no more.

Here it is, anything i should change?

>>60982098
get a smaller case probably.

>>60982044
>>>>/reddit/
>>>/reddit/

>>60982098
not bad fro the price.But yeah a smaller case will fit that MoBo more tightly.

I would like to recommend the Zen+Vega APUs. but we don't know how will they perform or when will they be out.

>>60982170
we know theyll be out july august. We know their cpu performance will be above an i3's and the apu who knows. Id wait personally

>>60982141
>Anonymous 06/19/17(Mon)19:14:20 No.60982141 ▶
> >>60982044
> >>>>/reddit/
> >>>/reddit/
>>>

>>60981581
>Unless there is a rule banning the exact way I just used it, I suggest you stop being anal about it.
I suggest you stop using things improperly instead of acting like a child. No one will give you good boy points for using greentext, no one is finding you cool, it makes no sense for you to use it and it's just very confusing because it looks like you're quoting so the reader will try to find who you are quoting but it's instead just you using it improperly
And just because it's not in the rules doesn't mean you're not a massive faggot for doing it. You're here among other 4chan users and if you completely disregard the unspoken rules and act like an idiot, then you're pretty much like a 3rd world migrant that should be gunned down like the degenerate he is. Stop acting like a child and lurk more, learn more about this website before trying to imitate us.

>>60982098
you'll never find a rx 460 for 100 bong bucks

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8gb fine if im not doing anything but playing most games from 2014 and older

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ck96bj

My new PC is on its way home, the only problem is that the water cooler doesn't come with a retention bracket for ryzen and I can't buy one from corsairs site because it has banned the shipping to my country, does anyone from EU knows if mindfactory includes an extra bracket for the ryzen along with the water cooler? Thanks

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review my build and tell me if it's good, I already have a mouse and keyboard so I don't need to buy those right now

>>60982236
Yeag it should be fine, aim for 16 eventually, what CPU you using?

>>60982253
you might bottle neck your pwer supply dude

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>>60982120
>>60982170
>>60982231

Found £50 under my bed n got it close to budget as i could

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>>60982231
besides the fact it isnt 100 british imperial bongs, it is in stock everywhere but the usa. They are the real fad people

>>60982213
>4:20

>>60982272
wrong, i3 is a waste as fuck, upgrade gpu instead. Still mang, dont feel you needed to spend more, your build was the perfect for its budget build. Now its in an awkward state. Save your money or wait for ryzen

>>60982293
Ill save thanks my man

>>60982272
those kaby pentiums beat the fuck out of the i3s
otherwise go ryzen, best bang for the bong buck
if you can squeeze forty or so more bucks for 2400 clocked ram (dif motherboard, dif ram)

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>>60982323
better gpu or slightly better ram and mobo?

I'm still running my 2500K, how much longer will I be able to roll with it? It's starting to feel a bit slow but I still haven't overclocked it.

>>60982339
that actually looks pretty decent, anon. enjoy.

If you happen to find 80 pounds or so lying around, you may consider the R5 1400.

>>60982253
i'm terrified by those prices wich currency is that?
>>60982267
nice

>>60982361
Untill you have noticeably slowdown on the things you do. so probably a year or so left in that great CPU. Might want to jump the chip once Zen2 comes around.

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>>60982323
>>60982293
Better?

>>60982404
>>60982339
post the pcbuttpicker link faget

>>60982412
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/HrBV9W
(first one)
https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/8t2yd6
(Recently posted one)

>>60982404
pretty good for the money, how much more is the G4560? I don't really know how the perf/bong buck escalates.

>>60982438
Theyre cheaper but Kaby lake is incompatable with the mobo

>>60982448
is it? I thought you could just update the bios (with a skylake CPU) and it was good to go

.. if you have anybody to quickly borrow a skylake CPU...

>>60982403
I do want to wait for one or two years to see how Intel does after AMD lit a fire under their asses, plus I do feel like I can last at least two more years.

>>60982467
Which i do not, pc is a gift for a friend and i use AMD

Is this good? I plan to video edit 1080p 60fps footage and would like to play games on maxed out or high settings with 1080p (maybe 1440p). I'm in Ontario, Canada so everything is plus 13% sales tax.

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TKfgjc

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>>60981242
just finished looking around. is this a good power supply then?

>>60982513
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TKfgjc
Find a mobo and gpu then do sli and get two gpu's if you plan on video editing, also get an ssd that isnt a samsung

>>60982513

its good but get a bigger hdd for video editing, maybe get the 8gb version of the card
>>60982536
is full of shit really

op should list under gpu
>if you want a gpu you are shit out of luck try in few months because human garbage have bought out all gpus

>>60982532
Yes

>>60982513
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/TKfgjc
>RX570
I have some bad news for you anon, you might not be able to find any of the AMD GPUs on stock or at their MSRP beacuse of the cryptomining GPU crysis.
If you're doing Video editing you might want to be interested on getting a 1060 or 1070, since their CUDA cores help a LOT.
Also the 1600 is recommended over the 1600X, since you can just OC the 1600 to match the eprfomrance and comes with a great stock cooler. so you don't actually need an afermarket one.

Video editing eats a lot of ram ... fast ram so you better consider higher frequency , at 3000MHz or above.

>>60982532
sure, a bit pricy but yeah it's good.

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Hey /g

I am a console fag, and i want to change race as to ascend my autism level. I wanna be a pc fag.

In the UK with a budget of 750 pounds

So a friend built this when he came down for the day but i want to get some more eyes on it for a better opinion

Thanks guys any advice is appreciated

https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/6WzrQV

How important is it for the motherboard to be screwed to the standoffs instead of being directly connected to the case, I screwed it to the case already and seems to be stuck now.

>>60982584
>If you're doing Video editing you might want to be interested on getting a 1060 or 1070, since their CUDA cores help a LOT.
Not sure about software but in premiere pro & da vinci the difference between the 1070 and rx 480 is pretty small, and the 1070 has 1,5x the number of cuda cores the 1060 has

>>60982676
It is imperative that the motherboard does not touch your case!!!

The back of your board will short out on the case if its connected, fix this problem as soon as possible!

>>60982676
if you turn it on it'll fry and possibly destroy anything connected to it

>>60982632
Hey. Whoever makes the new OP. Please put a new note telling people about the Jew mining situation. I keep seeing people put 580 in their build still.

Anyway, you are going to need to buy Nvidia or Wait TM for more AMD stock.

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Is there room for upgrade? Anything worth salvaging? I think the PC on the right has a broken mobo

>>60982676
it can fry case is transfering electrical charges and stands are suppose to isolate mb from it

>>60982676
Fastest way to a short circuit and killing every single component you own.

>>60982699
The jew mining situation?

>>60982723
Cryptocurrency mining

>>60982723
Jews buying every single stock to mine cryptocurrency. So much so that it has made mining on a 1070 viable due to the price increase.

>>60982730
>>60982749
Ok so, Nvidia has jsut gotten more expensive and the are no rx cards?

>>60982705
not really man. those are no good apart from light web browsing and MS Office.

>>60982632
looks fine, just beware of the RX GPU crysis going on, might want to switch that for a 1060

Do you already have the PSU? otherwise get 500-550 to have some headroom.

>>60982513
This is me, should I get the RX 580 if I can find it or the 1070/1060 6G?

>>60982723
digital coins are jewish economical and criminal sabotage.

>>60982769
you wont find rx not now and all gtx except 1050ti and 1080ti went up in price by 10 to 20 procent compare to month a go.

>>60982761
Yes. 1070 are more expensive. The rest remain untouched and there is absolutely no RX card in stock unless you pay stupid money for them.

>>60982791
Fucking crypto miners...so what am I going to fucking do? 1060 6G? 480? 560?

>>60982805
nope the price of 1060 is rising as we speak already 10% up

>>60982809
1060 if you dont mind paying bit more than you should ,other wise there is nothing left to do than to wait for next scam coins market crash but it may take few months. I wanted to buy 1070 my self but im not paying 20% extra because of fucking miner jews. I will simply wait.

>>60982695
>>60982676
>>60982697
>>60982712
>>60982713

OK fixed.

>>60982912
Good man!

>>60982817
>Even the 1060 is rising
DO THE JEWS HAVE NO DECENCY
WHAT THE FUCK

>>60982940
The 1060 can mine $120 per month, so I guess they're profitable enough

how do I make a box into a case?

>>60983082
as in a cardboard box?

>>60983097
yes

>>6098308
it's actually very simple
https://youtu.be/xkLzUDjUtMY

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Ok so i just finished cleaning my cpu's heatsink but i fucked up the thermal paste and pc won't boot

nice way to kill a cpu

fml

I'm looking at a Gigabyte Gaming K7 for a ryzen 1700 build that I've been slowly putting together. Is there something wrong with that board?

I'm asking because of a deal that almost seems to be too good to be true that you can get from NE. Like with the combo and promo code savings I can get the R7 1700 and Gaming K7 for under $470 shipped.

I just want to make sure I'm not getting a bad board, and this is my first build.

>>60983149
nothing wrong witht that MoBo
is a high end one with all the bells and whistles.. if that's what you're looking for. the K7 goes for around $200 and the 1700 goes for $300
so you're saving $30 plus shipping.

>>60983137
what do you mean wont boot? and how did you fuck up the thermal paste?

I was thinking about this for my next build want to try Mini ITX. Most of the parts will be from my current build except for the Ryzen parts and the ram.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/LHwsQV

>>60983137
Care to elaborate?
maybe just changing the thermal paste?

>>60983230
that case is almost cute enough to make me do a mini ITX build

>>60983197
I just want one with a post code so I don't have to dick around trying to figure out why my pc won't start and the dual bios incase I fuck something up or if my power dies while updating. everything else is superfluous

>>60983217
>>60983231
When i removed the heatsink, before cleaning, i checked for thermal paste. Both the heatsink and cpu were fairly covered, so i was careful enough not to touch anything while i cleaned the dust off

placed the heatsink and cooler back and turned it on, does turn on but the os is not botting, keyboard and mouse are turned off, even my wired xbox controller is turned off despite the cpu being on

i dont know if i fucked up with the cpu or if the motherboard's battery is dead, idk

ill ask my brother to check it tomorrow morning, just hope i didnt fry my cpu

>>60983273
did you take the CPU off the socket?

>>60983284
no, of course not

>>60983296
then there's no reason for your cpu to be fryed off.
maybe the cpu fan is not connected well. check all the connections and such.

>>60983273
Maybe you static fried something?

>>60983273
You fucked up your mobo.

>>60983401
mobo has been dying for quite some time now.

well ill get checked tomorrow

>>60983273
>cleaned the dust off
How exactly did you do this?

>>60983273
is it possible you jostled the ram loose or forgot to plug in the CPU cooler?

>Win graphics card off ebay 3 hours ago

3 hours and nothing from fedex, this faggot better hurry up

What is da bes RX 580? 8gb of course.

>>60983646
The one in stock at a reasonable price

>>60983646
Gigabyte ARORUS. Good luck finding it, or any.

Upgrading from an old i5 which is having trouble with multitasking and want to go for a 1700. Is the Gigabyte GA-AB350-GAMING 3 a good mobo for the CPU if I don't plan to crossfire?
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128991
This is what I'm looking at by the way. I'm kinda lost in all the mobo options out there but I think the B350 standard is right up my alley. Does this have the same POST time issues that I've heard other AM4s have?

If I'm being retarded please recommend me a better motherboard given a ~$150 cap. Thank you.

>>60983646
Sapphire makes the best AMD cards imo.
But good luck getting ANY 580 at the moment.

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looking to get a portable power house for lans/comp gaming. i was thinking of getting 1700x/7700k with a 1070 but unsure what to pick

>>60983972
also wanna spend around 700/800 pounds

>>60983972
go with the 1700x, the 7700k is a housefire and already depreciated by a even bigger housefire

>>60983972
Why would you need a i7 or a 1700x for something portable? Are you plugging into 1440p monitors at lans/comps? What is wrong with a 1600.

>>60984039
1080@144hz. im not sure im kinda new to this and someone suggested a 1700x because of streaming and recording

>>60984067
Not even the i7-7700k can hit 144hz consistently @ 1080p. But yeah get the 1700 if you are streaming and shieet.

>want to buy the Vive 2 when it comes out
>it will be more processing power hungry
>but processing power should be cheaper by then

Is it safe to assume that the general trend of 300$ cpu and 500$ gpu for a higher end system will stay the same?

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I seriously hope you don't do this.

is there any reason to not just pick a row that matches my price, and go across the line on LogicalIncrements?

where can i get some dirt fucking cheap DDR4-2133 ram

also does "cheap small PCI M.2 drive" exist

like even fucking 80gb is fine so long as it's pci

>>60984657
If all you want to do is spend X dollars on a PC, logicalincrements is good. If you want to consider your needs and whether the parts are a smart purchase when it comes to performance per dollar and futureproofing, you'll need to put more effort into it.

>>60984657
Logical increments didn't cope well with Ryzen's release.

>>60984657
Nope, that's what the site is for. You can probably shop around a bit and find a slightly better deal by just using it as a guide(get that type of video card, not the linked one, etc), or build a slightly better PC for what you'll do by putting more/less money into certain parts, but if you just want to spend X on a PC and save money over prebuilt, just pick a line.

>>60984718
Thank you.

>>60984724
Ryzen is particularly significant?


Secondary question; Since I've only started looking at parts and models since I got the urge to do an upgrade, I haven't had time and don't know a good way to learn; are there major releases or industry cycles coming to term shortly that would justify putting off a new comp for a month or two?

>>60984748
Vega is due for an announcement end of July.
AMD and Intel are both releasing their high end CPUs but that should be none of our concern unless you have a lot of money to burn.
Volta in 2018.
Zen 2 "soon".
There is currently a crisis in GPU stock/prices due to fucking Jews.

That's about it.

>>60984812
>There is currently a crisis in GPU stock/prices due to fucking Jews.
Can you elaborate or tell me where to read about it? I'm curious.


And how important are CPUs? I just want a box for playing modern games, but I'd heard a rumor that splurging on a CPU might be more rewarding than a GPU, as they tended to have a longer shelf life? Buy good CPU once, buy ~okay~ graphics card every two years for upgrade purposes? Is that vaguely coherent and/or correct?

So friend's rig broke, and he's just going to upgrade the entire thing. After some research, he's going with https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FfnY7h

Is there a better motherboard for that price range? I read reviews on the asrock pro4 and the gigabyte gaming 3, people were saying that it lacked features for overclocking, or that it was tedious. Should my friend spend a little more for a better board?

>>60984896
Here
>>60982723
>>60982730
>>60982749

>>60984897
You don't need to spend more on features you don't need. Just get what you required. More quality mobo maybe will yield you better VRMs, but that is about it.

>>60984896
Yes. Get a good CPU and it will last you a long time. There are people here still using i7-2500k.

>>60984812
Also RAM prices are high right and now as I understand it should start decreasing in 2018. Not something you'd hold off building a PC for but might make 8GB a more attractive choice over 16GB if that amount is enough and you're on a tight budget. That's what I'm doing anyway.

Spending $200 on cpu and gpu. Decided on SAPPHIRE Radeon RX 550 4GB 128-Bit gpu and AMD FX-6300 6-Core cpu. Good or not for $200?

>>60984976
>AMD FX-6300 6-Core cpu
This is shit. Either get Ryzen or budget the fuck up with a G4560.

>>60982222
>autistic screeching.png

>>60984998
but at this point my cpu is 85 dollars and you cant get better than shit for 115. I'm 19 and broke. I'll get a fucking titan x when I'm 35

>>60984976
I'd rather go for G4560 and 1050 ti even if it exceeded 200 usd some, I think it'd definitely be worth it. I read that AMD is supposed to release low end Ryzens soon as well, but I don't know anything else about them so they could be shit for all I know.

>>60985026
The G4560 is 69 dollars.

>>60984998
besides an amd fx-6300 is better than my amd a4-6300

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bks2wV
Built this around a month ago based on recommendations I got here, very pleased so far.
Just added the Noctua as an intake, probably gonna add another to use as a rear exhaust and make it even quieter.

How long will I be set for 1080p, 60fps on high settings on AAA titles?

>>60985045
why did he say budget the fuck up then

>>60985050
And the G4560 is better than the FX-6300

>>60985062
It's a budget-ass CPU is all he's saying, not that you need to increase your budget.

>>60985062
Cause G4560 is the ultimate poorfag budget build CPU?

>>60985053
What clock do you have on your ram?

>>60985053
I don't like that casing but yeah this is decent.

>>60985065
cpubenchmark.net says fx-6300 is better though. i've been using this all night to determine what to get

>>60985087
Moar cores make the FX-6300 seem better but it gets absolutely crushed in single threaded performance and it is not like you need moar cores on a budget ass pc. Also the FX runs hotter and draws more power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRWsoWWtXA8
Here is some benchmarks when it comes to games between the 2.

>>60985104
What about the amd athlon x4 870k then? it's cheap as hell.

>these 1070 and 1080 prices
FUCK
CRYPTOMINERS

>>60985116
Did Intel wrong you or something that you refuse to buy Intel?
Look the G4560 is about as low as low can go. Anything less you are better off buying 2nd hand shit and praying it works.

>>60985126
okay then g4560 and what gpu?

>>60984067
>144hz
This is a meme, quit falling for it

>got RX 560 from Microcenter early in the morning
>build PC
>whoops forgot something
>go back
>all the RX 560s are fucking gone
>nVidya shelves filled

Are the miners using RX 560s now?

>>60978712
>You're kind of going overboard with this one.
fuck off
god forbid people can afford a 1080ti or Xp and actually want to maintain 120fps+ with ultra settings in a game they like

>>60978890
>r9 290 for 1440p 144hz
not nearly enough

>>60985084
Only gotten to 2667 thus far, but I'm new to overclocking and haven't messed with a lot yet.
>>60985085
Now that I've built with it I wish I would have gone with something else. Cable management isn't awesome and I would like to be able to add a second front intake without having to remove the drive bays.

So are GPU prices just fucked for the next year or so?
When will the government ban cryptocurrency and make these niggers broke?

is 32 Gigs of ram worth it?

>>60985146
1050ti/1050
Which can fit your budget

>>60985241
How is the government gonna ban cryptocurrency? Go up to you and ask you to turn over your wallet? baka.

>>60985252
It's a meme as far as I understand, unless you do video editting.

But, combining with >>60984970
Is there an issue with buying RAM of one type/size/manufacturer, then later adding more of a different size/manufacturer?

>>60985281
track all bitcoin transactions and start raiding the homes of miners

>>60985286
>Is there an issue with buying RAM of one type/size/manufacturer, then later adding more of a different size/manufacturer?
Frequency is normally the issue or sometimes 2 different sets of RAM just hate each other and refuse to boot.

>>60985209
anything they can get their hands on , anon.

>>60985252
sure, if you're editing 4K video
there's no use in regular aplications or gaming.
>>60984067
144Hz, while desirable by many it is somewhat of a meme. like having a 4K screen on a phone.
if you're doing ANNYTHING other than gaming (including streaming) the ryzen lineup is much better. the 1700 is an excellent CPU, and can OC to match the $500 1800X.

>>60984364
Hopefully. I'd expect the whole system to cost around $1200. when Zen2 and Vega are around.

>>60985300
>track all bitcoin transactions
A large reason why people like bitcoin is because it is anonymous. Good luck tracking that.
>start raiding the homes of miners
>It is illegal to use your computer to do complex maths operation now
The bubble won't burst anytime soon but the GPU bubble will pop the moment the hottest coins become suspectible to ASICs.

>>60985252
not particularly

unless you're doing a lot of editing, you'll never make full use of it

>>60985286
like >>60985304 pointed out, sometimes shit doesn't work

however if the timings (like when it says 10-10-10-27 for example) and frequencies (like 1600mhz vs 1866mhz) are the same, you should be good to go, regardless of manufacturer

>>60985300
>track bitcoin

good one, kid

>>60985319
>>60985342
Some effort is required to protect your privacy with Bitcoin. All Bitcoin transactions are stored publicly and permanently on the network, which means anyone can see the balance and transactions of any Bitcoin address. However, the identity of the user behind an address remains unknown until information is revealed during a purchase or in other circumstances. This is one reason why Bitcoin addresses should only be used once.
t. Bitcoin website

>>60985322
>>60985318
>>60985286
Alright thank you for the quick responses. I'll go for 4gb sticks then I think.

x4 4gb, 15 latency, DDR4 3600 sticks is better than x2 8GB 16-18 latency DDR4 3600 sticks right?

From what I understand more sticks is better because they can all utilize their read speeds, and lower latency is better.

i5 for gaming and emulation (ps1/2)
Or should i consider some AMD stuff like Ryzen?
I tried the /g/ main post pc build recommendation link. And that only listens intel CPU.

>>60985363
Get x2 8
x4 4gb might have latency issues. Plus upgrade headroom yo.

>>60985389
The only situation where I would ever recommend intel is in emulation since Ryzen is still new and untested vs emulation software. It is dependent on how much emulation you really need.

>>60985363
lower latency IS better but the higher latency ones are generally more 'compatible'

it's weird. also CL15 vs CL16 isn't a huge difference. i think CL18 vs CL15 would actually be a difference, but even then, not by much

If I want to stream with OBS, would it benefit better from more cores or faster cores?

>>60985389
For emulation the Intel alternatives are certainly better. nevertheless you shouldnt actually feel any difference with the Ryzen lineup. since emulation has gone a long way and CPUs are more powerful than what they used to be.

I would recommend the Ryzen 1600 over any i5 any time.

>>60985443
>streaming with OBS
>get Ryzen.

>>60985389
PCSX2 actually runs pretty nicely with Ryzen

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I realized that my 250GB SSD probably isn't going to be enough storage for everything I do, what's a good Hard Drive that I can pair with it? I saw this on Amazon and it looked pretty decent.

>>60985389
also PS1 emulation isn't an issue which is why i only brought up PCSX2

your average smartphone can do PS1 emulation just fine, is my point. whereas some PS2 titles can still be demanding to emulate even today

>>60985502
And PS3 emulation looking better everyday.
As well as possible WiiU emulation.

should i get a gpu now, or wait for the gtx 20 series to come out in a few months?

>>60985515
A few months is 1st half 2018.

>>60985488
Hitachi Ultrastar 3TB it's arguably the most reliable brand of HDDs and it's cheap as fuck

>>60985514
well he did only mention ps1/2 but yes
ps3 emulation is finally actually starting to matter
cemu (wiiu emu) still only uses two cores however and they don't seem to plan on implementing Vulkan or DX12 any time soon

>>60985534
i heard it got pushed forward to end of 2017?

>>60985515
we aren't getting volta until next year, friend
i mean yes 6 months is technically "a few months"

>ryzen's i5 and i7 competitors are out
>but not the i3/pentium competitors
why

>>60985534
>>60985571
http://www.game-debate.com/news/22739/rumour-nvidia-has-accelerated-volta-gpu-plans-geforce-gtx-2080-to-launch-in-q3-2017

>>60985539
They look pretty decently priced. Dumb question incoming; I'm going to be putting Windows on the SSD, will this affect the performance of games I put on the Hard Drive?

>>60985596
yes i found that too on google but i can't find any other information

for now i treat it just as a rumour and not fact

and last we heard it's early next year

>>60985569
>>60985596
>Rumor
Until it is confirmed, you should just stick with what Nvidia says.

>>60985604
>will this affect the performance of games I put on the Hard Drive?
Yes. Namely loading speed.

>>60985625
Hmm. I'll have to think about this more. Thanks for the help.

>>60985596
I won't put stock in that rumor. Q3 is what? July August September and we haven't heard a single bleep from Nvidia? No way that is happening. Especially not when they launched 1080ti Q1. That would instantly lose them a lot of fanfare. Q1 2018 seems more likely. But we will mostly likely see Q2/Q3 2018 when memory gets more cheaper so Nvidia can launch with HBM and all that jazz.

Would a Cryorig H7 be much quieter than the Wraith Spire?

>>60985685
A sound proof casing > noisy fans

>>60985698
you got any more lies you'd like to share with us