/pcbg/ - PC Building General - Click bait edition

Ice and snow themed build. Thoughts?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/VJTTgL

Gonna grab the GPU when prices go down to reasonable levels again, and plan to grab a second kit of ram (same exact kit) for 16 GB total in the future when I need it.
SSD chosen almost entirely on looks since it will be on display.

>build rig
>no USB ports work
>just sets at bios screen telling me to set CMOS date
>you guys tell me to RMA motherboard
>do it
>same problem on new motherboard

You can't explain this shit

What's a good comparison site for performance where I can decide if upgrading is worth it for me as I want to justify an upgrade with large % in performance over predecessor

>>60962175
None, you watch specific benchmarks instead.

I'm buying a new rig with 16 gigs of RAM (2x 8 gigs) which I want to upgrade to 32 gigs eventually.
Should I buy the same brand of RAM again or will I be fine as long as I make sure to buy a 2x8 gig set again?

>>60962124
>just sets at bios screen
Turns out you're a gigantic fucking idiot who doesn't know the difference between set and sit. This site isn't for "people" like you.

>>60962468
get the same exact kit

>>60962490
Pretty sure my problem isn't because of a typo. Thanks for trying to help, but I'll wait for a suggestion from someone who knows a little more than you do.

>>60962099
actually looks pretty cool. can't really see anything wrong besides the PSU being overkill but it's OK, if you find a cheaper 550-ish watt get that tho

>>60962526
>a typo
The "e" and the "i" keys are on opposite ends of the keyboard. You don't know what the word typo means either, apparently. There's no amount of help for people like you. You'll fumble through life until eventually there isn't a tard guard around and you kill yourself because you failed to read a warning sign.

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What's a good 3.25" SATA hot swap module that I can put in a 5.25" case bay, or even a good case that has something like that integrated already? I have like 10 bare HDDs lying around that I don't need permanently powered on and access only infrequently. I use a USB deal right now, but it'd be nice to have a solution integrated with my new desktop from the start.

>>60962124
Front, rear or all ports?

anyone have the scoop on Threadripper release. Still on a 3570k, and its fine but I have my eye on that 16c monster since its finally a worthwhile upgrade so many cores for VMs

>>60962592
All ports, including the ones directly from the motherboard. My USB devices work, I'm using them on my current computer.

But all I get on my new one is a screen that tells me the CMOs date is not set, and to press F1 or F2. Input doesn't work in any USB port. Before, you guys guessed it was a bad USB controller and told me to RMA. I did that and exact same problem.

>>60962575
Honestly any trayless SATA hot swap bay 5.25" module will do the job well enough.
They all do the same thing, just look up reviews for quality issues and you'll be good.

>>60962574
Lol no u

>>60962655
Sounds like user error. You probably weren't pressing the right keys since you think i and e are near each other.

>>60962655
Pull CMOS battery out, wait 10 minutes. Put it back in. Plug in keyboard and mouse, turn on computer, if it doesn't work, turn off computer and try next USB slot. If you had spent 5 minutes troubleshooting instead of running immediately to forums to solve your problems it would have been running by now.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nZd2wV

General home use and some gaming (Civ, Starcraft, maybe Witcher). Will likely upgrade the GPU later in the year for Destiny.

>>60962772
As long as you can fit a 1070 in there for destiny you should be fine

>>60962772
Don't buy Arctic Silver. The stock stuff on AMD's cooler is better.

>>60961843
>>GTX 1080 Ti - 1440p@144 hz and 4k@60hz maxed/high in many games; You're kind of going overboard with this one.
This calms my autism

>>60962761
Relax man. I've already done that. I've even booted it without the CMOS in at all. You must not have been here a few days ago when I detailed all the troubleshooting I've done. Its OK if you are out of the loop though, I'm sure someone who is more experienced will be able to help.

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Is the psu any good?

>>60962703
No, that's not what it is either. I appreciate your enthusiasm to help, but I don't think you have very much expertise.

>>60962797
Can handle up to 13.5" so should be fine.

>>60962893
>I don't think
You sure got that right.

>>60962886
No it's hazardous, can't you read?

>>60962881
>I'm sure someone who is more experienced will be able to help.
You can repeat this until the end of time. It won't fix the fact that you're a retard.

Is there a good place to check if the case is compatible and will fit the new components? I am using the old case

>Please be nice to people asking questions.

>>60962958
Welcome to my website.

>>60962655
If not a single one port works on none of your devices, even after CMOS reset, it has to be the mobo. Do you have a PS/2 device to get by?

How do I install Linux without a bootloader USB or disk, from my tablet for example? I know there are applications for this like drivedroid, but you have to root first.

What brand is the best at Water cooling? I started with a corsair loop but multiple sites have reviews with pump failures and horrible support which are starting to scare me off

>>60963009
I've got one coming tomorrow. I'll let you guys know how it goes.

Any recommended 480-512GB SSD? Currently I'm sitting on an old evo 840 120GB, so anything is better.

>>60962916
what

>>60963080
New Evo or a cheapo PNY or whatever they're called.

>>60963080
960 Evo is pretty good.
>>60963049
Noctua

Whose dick do I have to suck to buy an RX 570?

I want to build a computer in the $800 range but I can't find a graphics card in stock anywhere.

>>60963195
>Whose dick do I have to suck to buy an RX 570?
Bitcoin miners'.
You're gonna have to wait for them to restocked or for bitcoin prices to crash, hopefully both 2bh

>>60963218
>hopefully both 2bh
Praise logic, I hope it crashes soon. Fucking miners.

>>60963166
>Noctua
>Water cooling

>>60963166
its going to be a 7700k so I'd like to start with water already on the fire

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>>60963166
>recommending a TLC SSD

lel

>>60963252
I hope is crashes soon so I can buy some up real quick and make profit when it inevitably goes up
Remember like three years ago when it went up to like 1000 USD and then crashed? Now it's 4000. When this bubble bursts it's gonna cause an earthquake famalam

I'm planning on building a Ryzen/Vega microATX build for gaming at 1440p/144Hz. I'm waiting for the release of Vega Nova to determine if I get that or a 1080 ti. I'll be moving my r9 290 into the build until then. I'd also like AIO cooling for both CPU and GPU (assuming they have an AIO Nova).

My main concern is the motherboard (ASRock AB350M Pro4). Anyone have any input?

https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Davifier26/saved/mXqf7P

1600 or 1600x?

>>60963332
1600, 1600x if you're too lazy to OC and need that extra clock speed

Wow. You think it'll play Nethack?

>>60963289
Can we expect miners to try and sell their GPU's? Or does that just mean that there will finally be enough for the rest of us?

>>60963556
Probably both, but much moreso the second one

32 gigs of 2133mhz ram or 16 gig of 3000mhz for 4K/VR high end gaming?

For 1080p gaming Should I rather buy a 1060 for 250 or a 1070 for 350?

>>60963628
for 1080p 60fps, 1060 is fine. however, you should probably wait for the RX580 to get restocked because it is cheaper and more effective.

>>60963671
Yeah but here the cheapest RX 580 4gb are like 300 and it doesn't seem like it will go down

>>60963599
16 obviously. what're you goiing to use 32gb of ram for

>>60963739
Oh if you're not in America then 1060 is probably best, yea, foreign pricing kind of sucks for the AMD lineup
Get the 1070 if you really want stable 60fps or have a 144hz monitor (it is only 100 more after all), but otherwise yeah the 1060 should do you well.

Ok so have there been any recent well made benchmarks comparing the i7 7700k vs AMD cpus for 1440p 144hz gaming?

Last i looked a few weeks ago (and on here as well) for that setup, the 7700k was still recommended. This time the thread doesnt recommend the the 7700k. Have opinions changed?

I bought a 7700k with an asus promotion that game me a 100€ discount. I can still send it back for a refund and to get a ryzen chip.
Is it worth it?

>>60963784
Gave me*

>>60963784
The 7700k is still the best 144hz CPU around

>>60962655
hate to break it to ya pal but you're an idiot

>>60963599
ram speed is irrelevant; get what's cheapest

Got a Noctua fan to replace the stock intake fan in my case, should I use the spare as a second intake or a second exhaust?

>>60963899
Research positive vs negative airflow.
It depends on other fans in your case. Generally speaking you want an equal number of intake and exhaust, maybe 1 extra intake.

>>60963899
second intake, if you blow more air out than in it'll create a vacuum effect forcing air to enter from any holes in your case, messing up your airflow and getting dust inside your computer as only front intake holes are dust filtered

>>60963813
Then why was it removed from the OP text?
I love AMD as much as the next guy but we're going a bit overboard with the shilling. I agree that ryzen is the best value, but keep the old line about the 7700k being the best for 144hz while being bad value, and add that the amd CPU's are not as good but better value for what they offer

So I just bought

- Ryzen 1600
- B350 gaming plus
- 16GB 3200mhz ram(30$ then 8gb, I regret it though)
- 256GB WD Blue SSD
- 1TB WD Blue HDD
- VS600 PSU(25$ after rebate)
- LG DVD Drive
- Corsair R200 case

I have a GTX 1050 I'm going to use in it for temporary until the market for 580s or 570s crashes and I will buy one.

>>60963813
>>60963954
I have an OC'd i5 3570K.

Would I see any significant improvements if I went to a 1600 or a 7700K? Should I wait for whatever AMD and Intel have got coming next?

>>60964013
>(30$ then 8gb, I regret it though)
First it's "than", second I don't get why you would regret getting 16GB.

It is easy to go 3200 on my 3200 ram?

Is there a program for it or something? Using ryzen 1600x and Asrock fatality gaming k4. Was originally gonna go 2666 but will go 3200 if its easy enough, and there is a few kits on the QVL list.

>>60964190
I'd say becareful with your mobo
my b350 tomahawk won't post if I try and force 3200mhz even if it says it's compatible.

>>60963929
>>60963940
Turns out I'd have to remove the drive bays to put in a second intake.
Is a Noctua NF P12 all the intake fan I'll ever need in theory?

Guys I've got a Ryzen build in my shopping cart and I need a CPU cooler.
Definitely going to overclock.
Should I get an AiO? I'm worried leaks.

>>60964117
Intel have already announced what's coming next and it seems like a mess. If you have patience keep waiting and see if they figure shit out but their i9 lineup is a mess. I doubt AMD will announce anything new any time soon. Not sure what you use your pc for so i dont know if you'd notice improvements or not

>>60964433
Nah, AIO are within a few degrees of air cooler but cost much more.

>>60964458
Get a g4560, it performs very closely to i3s but cost much less

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Does this look like a decent build for a budget gaming PC? My GPU is a Gigabyte 1050 ti, so obviously I'm not a super hardcore MLG pro (I just got Fallout 4 a few weeks ago). Would I be much worse off getting the i3 7100? I haven't upgraded my computer in ~5 years and I basically only play video games on the weekend, so I don't need anything top of the line.

>>60964307
Again, depens on the rest of your setup. If you have OC'd beefy components and live in a warm climate, then maybe it would be best to have some extra. Id say you should be fine with 1 intake and exhaust in "normal" situations.

>>60964267
Thanks for heads up.

>>60964458
i3 and i5 are dead.

G4560 (if poor), R5 1400 (if poor), 1600, r7 1700, 7700k.
Those are the only CPUs worth anything.

>>60964480
No one recommends Intel anymore.
Grab an AMD Ryzen 5 1600 with a B350 motherboard instead.

>>60964468
Alright, that answers that.
I'm prioritizing performance, but I'm not sure about a Noctua. Kinda wish the fans weren't so ugly.

>>60964484
Running a 1600 with the stock cooler and a 1060, no plans to overclock at the moment, and I've got decent ac.
I guess I'll have to ditch the Corsair 200r if I ever want to seriously overclock.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JRs77h

Alrighty, above I already brought (and at a cheaper price) other then cpu cooler and ram. Rams and CPUs are placeholders. the Ram is on the QVL list.

I'm looking to spend around $500 as a budget, maybe little more if it puts me at a nice threshold for performance.

Goals: Gaming 1080p@60mhz, although was looking forward to Vega til they fucked up the release date. Wouldn't mind something good for 1440p

And nothing else really. Besides Vega, was gonna fall back to 580 8GB but they're all gone.

Pic related is current PC that I'm definitely feeling the age on. I wanted to come out strong but still bang for buck, but all this mining fucked things over.

>>60964562
You can use other fans than the stock ones on air coolers.

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>>60964493
>>60964479
>>60964540

Alright, made a few changes. Should this, along with a 1tb HDD and a GTX 1050ti allow me to play most games at a decent frame rate for a couple years?

>>60964589
Fuck me. I already bought*, and the cpu cooler and ram are placeholders.

>>60964572
Just run any monitoring program and look at the temps, components can get pretty damn hot before they have any risk of damage, but generally if everything stays under 50 at idle and 80 under load, you should be fine.

My current setup is shit, its a cannibalized prebuilt with no case fans, only the cpu fan, shitty cpu cooler and PSU fan. It generally gets to 50 at idle and 85 while gaming and its pretty hot, but i don't care about these components, and its useful during the winter anyway.

>>60963280
You'll be fine with a NH-D15.

I'm having a problem with the PC shutting it's self down and refusing to reboot.

I had HWinfo64 open and made it crash. How do I read the report? It opens in open office and it's just a huge sheet of numbers there.

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Just picked up this monitor for $280. I hope I didn't fuck up.

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236785&ignorebbr=1

>>60964668
If you're dead set on water cooling, delid and do a custom loop with parts from ekwb.

>>60964601
You don't need to EVO, this CPU already comes with a cooler. Please make an effort to read descriptions and inform yourself a little bit. As for your question yes you'll be fine.

>>60964601
Also you need faster RAM for Ryzen (2666 minimum), and dual channel is better, but that mobo only has 2 slots. Go 8x2 or 4x2 with a different mobo.

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Hey /g looking to build a mid budget gaming pc. Budget 750 GBP. Any Advice?

>>60964592
Ah, didn't think of that.
So I could probably swap the two fans that come with my case and the two that came with a Noctua around.

Now I just need to not pick an industrial Noctua cooler.

>>60962494
does it matter if they will be on different channels?

>>60964601
Eliminate the 212 evo cooler. The Wraith Spire cooler that comes with the 1600 is decent. Then spend the money saved on faster ram. 3000 or 3200 mhz
While ram speed may not make a difference on Intel, it makes a HUGE difference on Ryzen.

>>60964873
get the same exact kit.

>>60964738
eliminate the Cooler master cooler. Unless you're attempting an extreme 4.0 Ghz overclock, the stock wraith spire cooler is fine, even with an overclock to 3.7/3.8 ghz. Any higher, and things start getting toasty.

My computer have been acting up lately. I plugged in my new gtx 1080 Ti 14 days ago and it have been fine up until now. But for the last two days my fans have suddenly started to spin at 100 % for like 10 seconds and then my computer turns off. It have happened when i have been idle both times, but i suppose it's random. When i boot the computer up again it fails to load some drivers, so i have to restart once every time this happens.
I fear that it is my PSU causing the issue as it is the oldest component in my computer and i haven't noticed any temprature problems. ( i recently blew out some dust and chaged the cpu paste).
Any ideas guys? I'm on the edge of buying a new PSU now. Any recommendations if you guys think that this is the problem ?

>>60964967
I'd grab a new PSU

>>60964961
That was theplan, put it in incase i wanted to OC

>>60964967
Doesn't sound like PSU. You fan try it without the 1080 for awhile to be sure, but its probably your CPU overheating. It might need some new grease.

Any other Australians here? Where do you buy your components from?

>>60963820
How?

>>60962931
>motherboard is defective
>therefore user is retarded

Ok...

>>60964990
Hmm. Okey. But as i metioned in my earlier post i already used some paste on it recently, and tempratures seems to be fine.
Pic related

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>>60964979
Okey anon. I will probably do this...

>>60965016
>>60964990
I fucked up... Here you go...

>>60964738
21 bucks on that piece of shit cooler is wasted, Wraith Sphire is better than you think. 620W is overkill for your build, 450-550W is enough.

>>60964961
>4GHz
>on TX3
Yeah no. Not going to happen.

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>>60964733
>>60964718
>>60964917

Alright, dropped the fan and changed to 3000mhz ram. Looks good?

I do appreciate your feedback.

>>60961843
currently have an i5 4460, built mine 2 years ago, should I get something newer

Other specs
Gtx 970
teamelite 8gb ddr3 1600
sandisk ultra ii 480 gb + 1 gb HDD
Evga 500 W bronze
Msi h81-e34

>>60965040
Are you sure this is for a budget build? You don't need a 6 cores CPU with 3000MHz memory to play games during the weekend.
Also, you can save money on cheaper non-samsung SSDs

>>60965087
>you don't need six cores to play games
But that's not true anymore.

What's a good, affordable but not massive m.2?
Probably just going to use it to put my OS' onto. Keep my games on a standard SSD and my 'collections' on HDD

>>60965117
During the fucking week end, it's not like he's going to play games every day all day and is aiming at an AAA gaming rig

>>60965087

Basically I want something that's going to allow me to play new games at a decent frame rate for a minimum of 3 years and won't break. I'm obviously not looking for anything top of the line or close to it, but I don't want to get something I'm going to need to replace once the new Metro game comes out.

If there's a cheaper setup for what I'm looking for, I'm certainly open to suggestions.

I found a old harddrive (WD2500JS) and I would like to see what is inside of it. Is there any way to do so without actually installing it in my build?

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Right, CPU cooler has been removed. Anything else?

>>60965170
Get a fucking SSD my man

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>>60965087

For reference, this is my current setup, just with a 1050 ti instead of the listed gpu.

>>60965191
getting a 256GB SSD from my mate senpai, just dont need to buy a new one

>>60965170
>2017
>hdd's
LMAO

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>>60965211
>>60965210
>>60965210
When you dont read before you roast then your waifu leaves your broke ass

Whats a good PSU anons? Is bitmining possible to earn anything from with only 1 computer?

>>60965155
Looks good, just trow in a midrange GPU (580/1060), assuming you are playing at 1080p. Get a cheaper ssd probably.

The CPU is good and will last you a long time. If you want to save maximum money, which I think other anons are talking about, get a pentium g4620. It will game OK. It's a MUCH worse CPU for general use though.

>>60965087
>>60965140
Since he's on g a better CPU will benefit him a lot.

>>60965251
as long as its a reputable brand and has a certificate that wont annihilate your PC, youll be good

>>60965193
>>60965278
Oh, no reason to do a pentium build then, my bad. Your 2500k is as good for games on stock clocks.

The ryzen build you have in mind will stutter a lot less in games, especially when multitasking.

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>>60965211
>>60965191
>>60964961
>>60965036


Taking stock wraith, went for silver 80 PSU, the SSD im getting from a friend. anything else?

>>60965170
I say get a cheap gold PSU like Seasonic G 550W, a cheaper case and go for the R5 1600, it will be better in the long run.

>>60965354
Consider the 1600, only $40 more for 50% more cores.

>>60965376
Really cannot stretch the budget man

Which CPU is a good upgrade from an i5 4460

>>60965390
Don't you already have a hdd already? You could drop that for now.

>>60965402
A new mobo and CPU cos intel is dying

>>60965402
r5 1600

>>60965407
I am upgrading from a trashy PC, the hdd in my current one is 5400 rpm and like 500gb or something i dont want it

>falling for the Ryzen meme

>>60965421
Thats AM4, not LGA he'd need a new board

>>60965354
>>60965390

All is fine then, go for it if you cannot stretch to the 1600 since it'd be more worthwhile.

>>60965446
Could potentially save cash on a RX GPU and then add the extra funds onto a cpu

>>60965464
>rx gpu
good luck finding one

pc part picker doesn't tell me if motherboards have raid or vt-d support
is there an alternative that does?

>>60965436
Who are you quoting?

What are good Hard drives for storage? I'm looking for 2/3TB (7200).

>>60965426
I still think that's the better idea. Your PC will still be snappy and great thanks to the ssd, and you can add a new HDD once you have a bit more money. Or wait until you have another $40.

The r5 1600 is a lot better, and upgrading it later will be bother harder to afford for the initial $200, then you'll lose money and time reselling the 1500x.

And you could save $10 on the PSU and some on the case too.

Check websites of the brand

>>60965497

>>60965517
Look up what has the best gb/$

>>60965437
I know.

What's the chance of getting a Volta in 3 months? Was thinking of caving and getting a EVGA 1060 and using the step-up program just incase.

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>>60965251
>>60965292
I'm thinking of buying this as it got some nice reviews etc. But it seems to be 10mm too long for the fan opening in my computer.
https://www.amazon.com/Corsair-RM850x-Modular-Supply-Certified/dp/B015YEI8JG

I got this cabinet : http://www.fractal-design.com/home/product/cases/define-series/define-r4-black-pearl

Does the 10mm difference really matter?

>>60965559
Volta is thought to be released in 2018

This maybe the weirdest problem I've ever had with a PC.

My PC will shut it's self down, just completely dead have to turn it off at the mains to make it boot again. I've found a way to make it crash within seconds but it makes no sense to me so here goes.

>PC crashed during games
>Get Darksiders
>Runs perfectly on monitor, full screen or windowed
>Runs perfectly windowed on TV
>Change resolution too high by expanding the window and it nukes the PC.

WTF could possibly be going on? I have multiple HWinfo64 reports of the crashes I'm going to change now but this is mind blowingly weird to me. Why would a game's resolution cause a crash within seconds?

>>60965629
I say Nvidia will rush and fail with Volta just as Intel failed with X299.

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Making my first PC soon. Looking for a case that isn't too expensive but isn't cheap shit.
Opinions on this one?

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>>60965520
>>60965493

Ok so a big switch about, can wait for RX's to come back

>>60965647
Very easy to build.

>>60965644
Dubs checked,
probs your gpu bottle necked by the gcpu then system has an autism attack because its over loading

>>60965620
You mean the fan hole is 10mm misaligned? It'll be fine, might get very slightly louder under load.
>>60965647
what exactly are you looking for in a case. I like corsair 200r (including silent edition, which I have(
>>60965653
looks good

>>60965693
>very slightly louder
heh
That might be bothersome.. But it's already noisy as fuck so thats fine. Thanks anon.

>>60965647
I have this, it isn't cheap shit

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>>60965678
What's gcpu in this case?

>>60965647
Fractal Design Define S or C are your best bets

180€ for an Ivy Bridge Xeon (E5-2630 V2), Supermicro ATX and a shitty Quado K600? PSU is in there don't know what kind, no drives and no ram. Buy? And what do I do with it?

how important is it to clean the insides of your PC?
what do I use to do it without unintentionally fucking my PC up?

Any thoughts on how I can save money/improve this cheaply? Or any input on this thing at all?
https://au.pcpartpicker.com/list/FBF6bj
$1100 dollarydoos is about $800 USD btw.
My total budget should be about $850 usd so if anyone's got any suggestions they will be most welcome.

Not looking to finish this thing until sometime near the end of this year (October-November) hopefully, so should I be buying parts one by one as they go on sale or wait for new stuff/updates to come about before finalizing the build for purchase?

>>60965724
You have the exact one? Without the top fan?
May you show me a pic of yours plz

>>60961843

Hey folks.

I've been trying for ages to buy a new rig. I'm on an old Dell XPS laptop that to be fair, is now seven years old but has served me well all this time.

It of course cannot touch the new generation titles out there, and also can't even get DX 11 due to the limitations on the GPU.

I've got around £1,000 to spend and I'm looking for a system in the UK.

The title I really want to play is ArmA 3, but I also do a lot of processing work with file transfers and bulk image editing / processing.

Any suggestions greatly appreciated. I've Googled the shit out of it, spent hours on various sites, but there's just too much opinion out there, so I come back to the people I, crazily enough, trust.

Ideally it'd be a built to order system from PC Specialist, Cyberpower or Chillblast. I can't DIY worth a shit.

Cheers!

>>60965676
OK so it's a good case then? I just don't wanna get a bad case and regret it when it's too late. But the $65 price tag is appealing. I already spent sooo much so far on my build.

>>60966005
Actually mine does have a top fan area

>>60965947
Oops forgot to mention that I will mostly be wanting to play video games demanding higher-end stuff like and if possible at 144hz (Counterstrike meme)

>>60966012
Building a PC is just lego for adults and it's much cheaper than getting a prebuilt, at least consider it

>>60965852
My friend has fractal design and we are roomies so I don't want the exact same case. I know it's dumb

>>60966025
Dammit it. Mine doesn't. How much will that effect me... I won't be overclocking

>>60966045
you can get one with tempered glass if he doesnt have one w/ tempered glass and vice versa

>>60966044

I have. I used to tinker with my old rigs many years ago, and would happily plug in, plug out, change cabling, etc, but those were £100/£200 rigs that were basically junk.

I've never done anything involving thermal paste, etc, and I just really don't want to fuck up a system worth around £1,000.

It's just that fear I guess.

Besides, I thought the margins on prebuilts were tight anyway and the savings minimal?

How much could I expect to save realistically?

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>>60966025
I'll show you another pic. Should I get

What do you guys think about Ryzen 3? Will it be good for making super high price/performance pcs like people use the dual core intels for?

>>60966012
>>60966044
>Building a PC is just lego for adults and it's much cheaper than getting a prebuilt, at least consider it
This, I've built my first pc a bit more than a month ago without any problems on my first try. When in doubt just look at your motherboard's manual and you'll be fine.

>>60966134
APU always have been the king of price / performance. Hell, even those 8 months old AM4 Bristol Ridge APUs are pretty excellent for e-sports games.

>>60966110
Im freaking out!! I'm going to microcenter in Brentwood MO and look at the cases in person!!

Just built my computer the other day. I get really bad ocd so I took it apart to check something. When I put it back together, I notice the idle temp is 1 degree higher than before. I know it's probably not a big deal, but just curious what could have caused it. Can a difference in room temperature cause it?

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I'm not buying the graphics card for my system yet and not sure which one I'll even buy
what size should I go with to ensure I don't see any problems?

I'm gonna have a 16 gig rig, but will upgrading the ram to 64 bit in future affect the heat badly?

>>60966210
No, ram produces minimal heat

>>60964453
Pretty much only entertainment(games, movies, TV, Youtube, etc), and I'd like to stream but my i5 3570K definitely bottle necks me there unless I'm streaming like Counter Strike.

>>60966235
yea, for streaming and such, you want an AMD Ryzen 5 1600. 2 extra cores and 4 extra threads are a godsend for streaming.

>>60966235
ryzen is great for streaming and multitasking

Thinking of grabbing this, any thoughts?

https://www.johnlewis.com/scan-3xs-gamer-5-1060-desktop-pc-intel-core-i5-16gb-ram-1tb-hdd-240-ssd-nvidia-gtx-1060-black/p3128234

is a Ryzen 1700x at 3.7ghz a good cpu for games or will it be worse than an i7?

>>60966286
>john lewis and scan
John lewis and scam

>>60961843
>Don’t get an i5 right now
Why?

>>60966235
I'm using r5 [email protected] and even when streaming I never go above 30-40% usage.

>>60966319
i5 is an overpriced visit to stuttertown

>>60966302
It'll get worse average framerates (But no problems playing everything except arma at above 60fps.)

It will stutter less and provide better minimum framerates in general. And a smoothe performance while multitasking/streaming.

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Do I get this for my first build!?!!!
Is it bad?????

>>60966310

Scan are, or I thought were, quite reputable and reliable no? I used to use them for random parts about ten years ago. They were fine then?

>>60966327
Ok, and what about a i7?

>>60966330
So it would be bad for say VR?

>>60966346
Much less stutter but much more pricey. Only the very low end (Pentium G4560) and the top of the line (i7-7700k) Intel products are a justified buy. AMD's Ryzen just rearranged the entire market.
The Ryzen 5 1600 is THE cpu to buy right now.

>>60966346
See >>60966330 for ryzen vs. i7.
And ryzen is of course much better for multithreaded tasks.And cheaper.

>>60966352
Not really, no.
There isnt really any substantial VR games out afaik, but new games will run much better on ryzen than old games, since devs actually optimize for more cores and ryzens quirks.

>>60966334
>carpet
Be careful if that's your room.

>>60962468
If it's in different channels it doesn't really matter. Just as long as it is on your mobos aporved list.

T. Someone running both Kingston and gskill ram.

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>>60966012
>>60966093
>UK
You, old fart. Go to pcpartpicker.com, change flag to Londonistan for halal pc shops only, look at the OP parts listed, and start picking.
RTFM

>>60966384
>>60966393

>Check Ryzen mobo prices in my country
fuggg

Thanks

>>60966334
No dust filter. Fuck that.
Fractal all day every day.

>>60963839
will 2133mhz be future proof though? I want this computer to last, if it's gonna have i7 7700 and a 1080 card

>>60966483
If you want future proof, give up on both high end cards, especially nvidia, and that 4 core i7.

>>60966499
and go for Ryzen I guess and what gfx card?

I'm planning on building a Ryzen/Vega microATX build for gaming at 1440p/144Hz. I'm waiting for the release of Vega Nova to determine if I get that or a 1080 ti. I'll be moving my r9 290 into the build until then. I'd also like AIO cooling for both CPU and GPU (assuming they have an AIO Nova).

My main concern is the motherboard (ASRock AB350M Pro4). Anyone have any input?

Here's my current build.
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/Davifier26/saved/mXqf7P

>>60965647
> no slots for a DVD player.

Why does the OP suggest going for the rx 580 even though its performance is pretty much the same as the 1060's except the 1060 is generally cheaper and more optimized for current video games? Genuine question btw

>>60966513
Ryzen or maybe the new intel skylake-x If you want to send the double. What resolution and refresh rate are you gaming at?

>>60966539
570/580 prices are inflated due to etherium mining.

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Thoughts?

>>60966563
I don't settle on any particular resolution or refresh rate and don't plan to push it too far, maybe try 4k sometime.

How different will a Ryzen 1700 be vs an i7 7700 lifespan wise?

>>60966584
The build is retarded and so are you.

>>60966539

The rx 570 should be a 160-170$ card.

The memecoins have inflated prices.

>>60966611
t-thanks

>>60966334
I don't like the logo. I find it to be ruining the product's appearance.

>>60966584
that's a very expensive internet browsing machine

>>60966584
This build makes no sense.
What the fuck are you trying to do with it? and what's your budget.

>>60966584
Those 1TB drives are a bit overpriced. But even then 1TB drives are more expensive per gb than 3/4tb ones.


>>60966602
If you're gaming at 1080 60fps right now, then there's no reason to get something better than a 1060/580. They can acctually do 4k 30fps OK, or some in between upscaled resolution that will look alright on the smaller 4k screens.

When do you wanna go 4k? For 4k you'll need a 1080 of course, but if you're not getting soon you can gain a lot from waiting. Remember, when the nvidia 10 series came out, the 980 was as powerful as a 1060.


Lifespan is hard to say, But intels next desktop line is going to have 6 cores.It's pretty safe to say game will only get more optimized for multi-cores. and of course, everything else already is.

>>60966584
If you're set on that price range I'd suggest waiting for R3 to have something that's actually decent by 2017's standards.
You don't want a dual core.

>>60966731
The 1TB drives are not the problem. They're cheap as far as 1TB drives go.
The problem is he could get a Seagate Barracuda 2 TB drive for like $66 and save like $34

>>60966584
Mainboard a bit too expensive, two 1tb drives instead of one 2-3 tb hdd (why?), tiny ssd, a sub average case at an inflated price. Why? Also that's a big monitor four you(r build). I hope you aren't planning on gayming on that thing.

>>60966750
Or a 3tb one for 70-80, even better.

>>60966584
Here. I fixed it.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dhNV9W

>>60966812
Nice build!

>>60966584
Better off with 1080p 120 to 144hz
you only need 1TB HDD, I'm pretty sure you're a faggot that doesn't stock up on jap media
get a better ssd with the money saved from having only 1TB
That is one stupid CPU and mobo
no PSU either, how do you think you're going to power everything, with a car battery?

What's a good Ryzen 1600 motherboard senpai?

>>60966514
I thought A boards weren't able to overclock. It's the B boards and everything else that are unlocked.

>>60966836
>Better off with 1080p 120 to 144hz
Maybe he's not a esports gaymur and just wants a better desktop experience?

>>60966853
Even for daily desktop use 120hz looks nice.
Better desktop experience would be having two monitors, one landscape and another portrait.

>>60966850
ASRock X370 Taichi.

>>60966852
A320 boards can't overclock.
B350 can though

>>60966879
>>Better desktop experience would be having two monitors, one landscape and another portrait.

This a thousand times.

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Benq is alright as far as I've read, this is also a 4k IPS that doesn't kill the wallet as others. Is there another widely liked 4k IPS that I haven't found?

>>60966584
If it HAS to be a pentium and no GPU why not like this?
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/tB6fZ8
Don't know much about monitors tho and I cheaped out a bit on the ssd but <180 GB is just too small.

>>60966850
Asrock AB350/AB350M Pro 4
Gigabyte GA-AB350/GA-AB350M Gaming 3
Asus Prime B350-Plus
any MSI board
Asrock B350 Fatal1ty
Asus B350-F Strix

>>60966879
Not a loft of stuff benefits from the higher refresh rate on desktop, personally I cant see it at all.

Of course more monitors would be better than one, but the higher resolution and thus more space is really nice.

>>60966908
check actual contrast ratio, not that bullshit about dynamic contrast
if below 1000:1, avoid

>>60966964
I don't know man, I go back down to 60hz and everything just feels ghosty. Bump it back up to 144hz and everything is smoother than a babby's ass.

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>buy 2012 business machine
>install cheapest modern Nvidia graphics card
>Plays any game in existence at high/ultra settings on 1080p/60hz

Do you really spend more than $200 on your computers? Why?

>>60966853
>>60966964
You're so wrong it hurts anon. Does anyone really genuinely have an ultrawide monitor and have two windows up on side by side at once?

Whatever you're working on or doing is going to be maximized on whatever size monitor it is anyway so like the other anons said I think you're much better off with 2 or more 1080p monitors rather then the 4k or ultrawide meme.

best bng for the buck intel cpu?

>>60967098
How about two ultrawide monitors, but one of them is portrait mode? It's going to be really fucking long and you need the neck of a giraffe or a bushman nigger.

>>60967097
Jesus, that plain green PCB looks great. I would unironically love to have something like that on modern platforms.

>>60967097
specs plz

>>60967114
Skylake i7 6700k if under 250 dollars.

>>60967133
HP 8300 convertible mini tower
i5 4750
8gb ram
2tb seagate hdd
EVGA 1050TI SC

https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-8GBx2-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B00UFF7Y4A

is this good memory? it is 2400 speed. is that too low for gaming? i dont overclock

is there either available or announced, a monitor with following specs?

ips/va
35", preferably 37"
ultrawide, 3440x1440 res
144hz+
curved

need something that will put my gtx 1080 ti to good use

>>60967097
I had basically that, but now I wanted a 8c CPU with decent single core performance and a card that can do games in 4k.

>>60967198
Ultrawide is a meme

>>60967186
>is that too low for gaming?
Not at all

>>60967198
My S2716DG stresses my 1080 Ti out every day. Depends on the game.

>>60967239
>>60967239
>Ultrawide is a meme
fuck off to your laggy 4k then

>>60967242
https://www.amazon.com/Ballistix-Sport-8GBx2-PC4-19200-288-Pin/dp/B00UFF7Y4A

So if I buy these for $105 I wont have regrets?
sorry im new at this

>>60967248
that's not ultrawide, and that's what i have now and it barely uses my gpu, you must have fucked something up

>>60967263
My 4k is perfectly smooth thank you very much. And Cost me less and offers me a lot more pixels and space.

>>60967304
sorry but my 4k tv is enough for casual gaming, i need something for the desk and HARDCORE gaming

is 256 gig ssd all that bad? I hope I have enough storage for games, I do have a 2tb external hdd

is 2400 mhz too low speed for memory for a gaming PC?

>>60967333
Yes. You want fast RAM, see: https://www.amazon.com/G-SKILL-TridentZ-288-Pin-4133MHz-F4-4133C19D-16GTZR/dp/B01NCV4CY8/

>>60967331
you can have 2-4 "modern" games installed on a 250gb ssd

source: experience

>>60967333
If it is ddr4, there is literally no reason to not go for 3200, as it costs the same as anything below, and some few games take advantage of higher ram speeds

>>60967280
Oh i see, you're a shit posting retard.

Good to know.

>>60966746
what's r3?

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>>60967280
1440p 144fps is more demanding than 4k60, and 1080ti doesnt max everything at that.

>>60967349
so the 2400 mhz is too low for a gaming pc at 144hz 1080p?
im taking these damn things back, im an idiot...

I just bought a pc with the following:

intel core 2 quad q9400 2.66 ghz processor
4gb memory
160 gb hard drive
ati radeon hd 3450
650 watt power supply

What should i upgrade if I want to play overwatch and battleground player unknown.

>>60967333
No, don't listen to anyone telling you otherwise, they're telling you bullshit.

>>60967264
High memory speed benefits you when the CPU is weak enough (or close to be weak enough) to become the bottleneck. That isn't happening unless you have a 120hz+ or higher refresh rate screen with a GPU beefy enough to shit out that much frames a second.
If you're on a good old 1080p60hz, it makes no difference at all.

>>60967319
Here's you (you) xD

>>60967373
http://www.microcenter.com/product/446298/Ballistix_Sport_LT_16GB_2_x_8GB_DDR4-2400_PC4-19200_CL16__SR_Dual_Channel_Desktop_Memory
bought these for $105, they are unopened but now i realize they are too slow it seems. going to exchange them tomorrow.

I just bought a 1080 founders. Did i fuck up or am i good to go?

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Recommended part lists for June 19th

>$460 - Pentium G4560 - 8GB DDR4 2133 - 240GB SSD - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/dCM999

>$1020 - Ryzen 5 1500X - 8GB DDR4 3200 - 512GB SSD - GeForce GTX 1070
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/mkbbvK

>$1360 - Ryzen 5 1600 - 16GB DDR4 3200 - 512GB SSD - GeForce GTX 1080 Ti
https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/GcyYJx

The two latter builds will do minor CPU/Video card overclocking. If you want better overclocking results; go with an X370 motherboard and a higher-end PSU.

If you change to a windowed Case, go with a fully modular PSU.

If you change to an mATX Case, you will have to go with an mATX Motherboard.

>>60967378
what part of it is a shitpost? i literally have that res right now, 144hz and ips, i get 140+ fps in "heavy" games

you probably have windows 10

>>60967379
Ryzen R3.

>>60967391
the thing is, i bought 144hz with a gtx 1080...lol. So i guess i should definitively get 3200mhz??

>>60967384
No, ram speed only has ~10% impact and that's on CPU performance

>>60967414
If you got it significantly cheaper than the ones with good coolers you're fine.

>>60967414
enjoy your noise machine
>>60967416
stop posting this amd garbage

>>60967430
yeah but i bought a gtx 1080 with a 144hz monitor. you sure i shouldnt get faster ram???

>>60967380
too bad for whomever created this graph, i get 80 average when playing gtav on my 4k tv

>>60967456
It's maxed

>>60967418
I could waste my time linking you 15+ games where the 1080 Ti fails to acheive 120+ FPS constant on max settings at 1440p and 144hz, but i'm not even going to bother.

Because you're a fucking retard.

>>60967416
Your builds are shit and fuck off.

>>60967467
i don't give a shit, it's what i get

by the way i found that such a monitor is announced, fucking awesome
http://www.anandtech.com/show/11491/acer-asus-unveil-35inch-gsync-hdr-monitors-ultrawide-curved-200hz

2 0 0 H Z

going to be fucking awesome

>>60967467
>trusting stupid indian benchmarks where they have win10 running with a hundred stupid apps in the background, recording software, antivirus and using stupid settings in the games

is 2400 bad for my 144hz monitor and 1080 card!?!?

>>60967418
>>60967467
Here's some of the games: Deus ex, FC:primal, tomb raider, division, witcher 3, ghost recon...

>>60967506
Ok so you are actually trolling.
You better get another 1080 ti retard

>>60967541
no, but as i said earlier why chose that over 3200 when it costs the same?
you will have a little less fps, and in very few games (overwatch) maybe a lot less fps

>>60967541
For the last time:
no

>>60967506
>200hz
No meme but above 100hz there is already diminishing returns that the human eye can detect.

>>60967557
feel free to point out the troll

>>60967584
please go kill yourself or never post such a thing again
such a retarded statement

>>60967564
>>60967568

uhhh, i just dont know!

>>60967595
Nice argument moron.

>>60967354
why is modern in quotations?

>>60967623
Not everyone has granddad eyes like you. I had the chance to test a benq 240hz, and I'm used to 144hz, and the difference was enormous and amazing in overwatch. I would get it if it was available in 1440p, 1080p is just too small.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/wcnV9W

My budget for this build is roughly $400 - $500 CAD as I live in Canada, I would like to get back into pc gaming but haven't been into it for about 5 years due to work and other life related event's. My plan for this build is to have it be upgradable in the future aswel as looking nice so I'm not to worried about a gpu right now and I'll be using the case stated in the build. If I could get any inputs on the build or any suggestions on what to change then that would be greatly appreciated.

>>60967652
Also I have a 1T.B. hdd I'll be using, also a mouse, keyboard, and monitor

>>60967647
>My anecdote evidence trumps scientific research
Check this moron out.

>http://www.bestbuy.com/site/cyberpowerpc-gamer-ultra-desktop-amd-ryzen-5-1400-8gb-memory-amd-radeon-rx-580-1tb-hard-drive-black/5833100.p?skuId=5833100
That's an actual decent deal.
R5 1400, RX580 8GB, and decent case for $680.
A 1600 would obviously be better, but that's still a fine PC for even 1440p in most games.

>>60967652
If you plan for it to be upgradable in the future don't get a socket that Intel is going to discontinue soon. Just pony up for the Ryzen.

>>60964190
Use 2t timings and 2933 is ez even on Hynix kits.

>>60967700
So there is actually stock of 580 somewhere after all.

>>60967689
>>60967689
>scientific research
lel
meanwhile every csgo and ow pro use or switching over to 240hz and all say there is an objective difference and advantage

>>60967720
I am sure you are a CSGO or OWpro anon. That is like saying the NBA star feels a difference between different pairs of sneakers. Yeah no shit, when you are the top 1%, every minor shit is going to feel different. For majority of the average joe, air jordans is gonna be air jordan.

>>60967747
I am truly sorry that your eyes are shit and you won't ever enjoy anything above 100hz, buddy.

That however is not a reason to post and reply to people saying their purchases are inferior due to "diminishing returns"

>>60967720
so more anecdotes from a small group of people, who also are sponsored and happens to get 200hz monitors from those sponsors.....

>>60967779
For majority of the human population, there is a diminishing return above the 100hz barrier you fucking mong. Yeah keep harping about muh eyes, muh csgo or muh overwatch you absolute imbecile. Fucking morons on /g/ of all places showing off about their allegedly super human eyes. Bet you are still silver and blame your teammates. Fucking retard.

>>60964117
I'm waiting for the Zen2 series, I have a i7-3850.

Just wait a bit longer bud. It'll be worth it.

New to pc building here. I would like to ask why are the amd processors are preferred over their intel counterparts in the OP as well as the RX580 over the geforce 1060 (what constitutes the main differences between them). I would also appreciate advice regarding GNU/Linux compatibility with the system I'm building.

>>60967816
sorry you fucking idiot but literally everyone who has a reason to buy a 144hz+ screen will notice the difference right away and it will be objectively superior, keep being an idiot to justify your 60hz ips or whatever it is you are such a pussy about.

you think a fucking 50yo mac dad even knows what refresh rate is or to look for? that those are the people these screens are made for?

stop posting

Which board should I get????

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16813157758

Or

https://m.newegg.com/products/N82E16813145009

>>60967779
It must really hurt your eyes to see all these light bulbs flickering at 60hz

Enjoy your thousand dollar placebo

>u shouldnt buy an objectively better product because for the majority of earths population they cant use it

/g/ alright

>>60967837
That is because 144hz is above the 100hz mark you moron. It is like you literally have shits for brains.

>There is there diminishing returns for frequency above 100hz
>Hurrrr durrrrr but people notice a difference between 144hz and 60hz.
>hurrrr durrrrr
Find the strongest rope and its time to kys.

>>60967719
Yeah. They're in prebuilts.

>>60967689
Uhhh double blind tests have proven that some people (~25%) can see the difference between 144 and 240. The other 75% are normies whose opinion and analysis doesn't mean shit.
I think the sweet spot is at 75-120fps. 60 is too low, 75 is good enough, 85 or 90 are nice, 120 starts to get to more than really matters for most people.
But for competitive gamers..? there is an advantage with the absolute highest you can get.
There was some recent military test that showed people can see over 500fps, even (though we're talking seeing a white square blipping on a black screen for 1 frame out of 500 in a second there).

>>60967849
List the model, I'm not copy pasting fucking URLs.

>>60967870
It must really hurt to still live in a place where flickering light bulbs are used.

Enjoy your dirty water

Also that is not how monitors even work fucktard

>>60967877
Nothing wrong with a 144hz monitor. You have to be a massive bellend to get a 200hz monitor tho.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/G8pkr7
Looking for a good monitor to go with my build. I won't be buying it for a while, but I know it's a lasting piece so I want it to be good. What are good specs to keep an eye out for? Good brands? I'm hoping to keep it under 250.

Also, what are good Hard drives for storage? I'm looking for 2/3TB (7200).

>>60967881
ASRock Fatal1ty X370 Gaming K4 AM4 AMD Promontory X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 USB 3.0 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

GIGABYTE GA-AX370-Gaming (rev. 1.0) AM4 AMD X370 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.1 HDMI ATX AMD Motherboard

>>60967880
ok

*enjoys my 240hz that makes me easily win and crush against you in any competitive fps game*

oh wait there is more

*enjoys my 240hz also in 4k and has a blast with gaming*

you having fun with your 60hz 1080p there buddy

>>60967929
Good luck finding that GPU in stock.

>>60967880
There's diminishing returns all the way. 30 fps looks a thousand times better than 15fps.

60fps looks a lot better than 30fps.

120fps looks a bit better than 60fps to most people.

240fps vs 120fps isnt noticable to most people.

>>60967923
>You have to be a massive bellend to get a 200hz monitor tho.


>I can't afford thing so everyone who buys thing is an idiot
>Even when it is a clear upgrade

>>60967946
>240hz in 4k
Stop. You don't even own a 1080ti.
Come on post your speecy and lets see if you can actually support it or not. Time to walk the walk fucciboi.

>>60967946
*teleport behind u*
*whispers* enjoy your placebo retard
*Owns u in all gaymes*

>>60967967
Post your 200hz monitor then.
What? Are you poor?

>>60967943
Fatal1ty.
Or just get a cheaper one like the Pro4 if you don't need the better audio. (I have the Pro4 and the audio is pretty fucking good for a supposedly low end one)

I don't play many competitive games or many online games in general. Should I just stick with a 1080p 60hz build?

>>60968018
Why not get more pixels and hz for general desktop use...? Requires a much cheaper GPU to power non-games for that.
Higher refreshmate makes your cursor move smoother across your screen. Totally worth it.

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>>60967971

>>60968018
1080p vs 1440p is down to preference honestly. But if you can afford to get a higher frequency monitor get one. Those have an immediate return.

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>>60968018
Im a depressed guy who can't get into vidya anymore. Just spent $1900 on a bunch of pc parts for my first build.
Sitting in my room just staring at everything in boxes. I feel like fucking shit. Bought a 1080 card. 144hz monitor. i5 7500.
Bought it all at microcenter. Might just fucking return it all tonorrow.
I hate myself.

>>60968000
it is not out yet, i will be getting this one when it comes out
>>60967506

currently on a 27" 144hz and it is boring and small

>>60968028
>1080ti
>1080p60hz
>Shitting on other people
Lmao

>>60967416
>>$460 - Pentium G4560 - 8GB DDR4 2133 - 240GB SSD - GeForce GTX 1050 Ti
>https://pcpartpicker.com/user/horsejumper/saved/dCM999
anyone have any comment so this?

>>60968042
that's a 4k tv, 1080p just for desktop and shitposting here

>>60967949
Yeah, at this point I'm just saving up/waiting. I'll probably go with a 1080 since I'm in no rush.
Which, again, makes me wonder about good monitors.

>>60968052
>1080p
Just go away troll/retard

>>60968064
Do your own research. I own a acer x271hu and I love it. Asus pg279q isn't bad either.

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>>60968031
>down to preference
No it's not. Anyone who tolerates 1080p has shit taste.

>>60968028
>he only has has 1 graphics card
poorfag

>>60968031
this is bait, don't take him seriously.

>>60968080
Yeah that is why professional gamers, you know the folks that play this game for millions of dollars do so on 1080p.

>>60968077
you try using 4k res in desktop and sitting in the sofa. good luck getting anything done

idiot

>>60968100
>you know the folks that play this game for millions of dollars do so on 1080p.

wat?

>>60968131
Which esports is played on monitors at above 1080p resolution?

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>>60968038
Here is the parts I picked. All for about $1820
I feel sick. I'm depressed and I thought this would make me excited. Bougjt it all from microcenter

>>60968148
There is no good and super fast 1440p monitor yet. Only 1080p has 240hz and minimal lag, and they are cheaper to sponsor than 144hz 1440p. Nothing to do with the resolution. Don't talk if you are clueless

>>60968163
Nah you are the clueless moron here. More screen space doesn't mean better or translate to a better environment when it comes to esports. In fact people prefer 1080p because it is the optimal screen size where you can see enough details and at the same time have all the info you need into POV. You are the moron being clueless here. And in professional setting monitor response time is much more important than frequency.

>>60968205
>In fact people prefer 1080p because it is the optimal screen size where you can see enough details and at the same time have all the info you need into POV

no

stay bad

>>60968160
>i5
>almost $2000
wew lad

>>60968244
>Professional gamers all use 1080p
>Stay bad
Lmao