/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

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install sourcemage

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>get GANOOlinux booting on new Surface Pro
>type cover doesn't work
Well shit.

what's rms up to

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At a job interview, they had a fucking personality profile of me ready. They knew my twitter handle, FB, YT channel, everything. Somehow knew about arrests, medical conditions, that my parents had divorced, past jobs I didn't put on the resume, and that I wasn't a property owner. I was fucking shook, and just left.

I realize now that I was the one who told (((them))). At least this interviewer decency not to hide that they knew all this.

I was a retarded normie who traded freedom for convenience. Stallman was completely correct.

I repent.

Why aren't you duel booting Arch vs Debian?

Is it possible/viable to build a new PC and run Linux as the host OS but also Windows as a guest OS with PCI Pass through for muh gaymes?

What GPU/CPU/etc should i look at for this?

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>>60960719
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>60960719
>Is it possible/viable to build a new PC and run Linux as the host OS but also Windows as a guest OS with PCI Pass through for muh gaymes?
yes, search the web for tutorials

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>>60960589
He was always right and his predictions always turned to be right, even down to the one when he said companies will soon start to patent shit that never should've been patented (like apple trying to patent a movie shot with certain composition).

Better sooner than later.

>>60960490
He is drinking Pepsi now. Coca-Cola was being totalitarian again.

What does fglt think about non-Linux GNU systems like GNU+Hurd or GNU/kFreeBSD?

>>60960662
I don't like it when my distributions fight.

>>60960821
I deep down wished Hurd won. It's such a nice concept.

How can I download from Mega, without megatools? I want to use a raspi, and only have access to command line.

>>60960821
They give me a boner, but I haven't tried either of them.

Genuinely interested in trying out Hurd someday. Or even migrating, if a man can dream.

>>60960821
>GNU systems
Fine with me, though FreeDOS needs more love, and Hurd is what everybody hopes to use (me Included).

>>60960861
plowshare
plowdown

>>60960589

>uses the parentheses meme
No wonder you're an idiot.

>>60960938
uh excuse me they are called (((jew gates))) ty god bless

I want to play around with ssh, for learning, but I only have one machine, what do

>>60960935
omg thanks

>>60960935
wtf, plowshare has a mega plugin?

Redpill me on init's.

>>60961005
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wMvyOGawNwo

>>60961005
Programs should work with any init system.

>>60961012
>>60961029
this

So, now that the dust has settled ...
since Firefox forces pulse now, what do?

>>60960216
no.

>>60960938
>not using memes in a meme sewer
what's wrong with u haha tbqh fampai lol
do u even 9gag??

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>>60961096
Support NetRunner motherfuckr >>60943247

>>60961096
https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse

>>60960989
- SSH into your own machine, as your own user and as new users that you create.
- Set up virtual machines in your computer.
- Search the web for free shell providers.
- Realise that you do have more machines, and what you thought of as a phone/game console/media player/potato actually can run an SSH server or client.
- ????

>>60961163
thanks, maybe my router can ssh

>>60961096
apulse or use --disable-pulseaudio like a sane person

>>60961182
I don't know of any that have ssh in their default firmware, but if you can put openwrt or some other custom OS on it then you're going to have some fun. Plus you'll learn the differences between openssh and dropbear.

>>60961096
what's wrong with pulseaudio?

>>60961307
Nothing. For some reason some autists dislike software made by LP.

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>>60961307
it was developed by pöttering and it was shit when it was developed by him.

>>60960379
>Being this retard to buy street shitter surface pro

>>60960187
is this rms at red hat or microsoft headquaters?

>>60961382
https://www.flickr.com/photos/sujith-h/sets/72157611214967816/

>>60961365
>Linux having no drivers means I'm retarded
ok, kid

>>60961466
>not writing your own drivers
lmao noob

>>60961466
>>60961508
>calling it "drivers"

>>60961526
>hardware doesn't work
>must be something other than drivers

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>>60961466
>Microsoft product having drivers for anything other than Microsoft operating systems.
You're not the brightest poster out there are you

what's so hard about compiling software?
if you think is hard, please explain why you think so.

>>60961780
Its a pain in the ass to hunt down dependencies. I'm feeling like only 2% of all projects actually follow the INSTALL README LICENSE rule.

>>60961780
Nothing is hard about it.
People are just lazy.

Compiling now is no way like it was pre 00's.

>>60961780
Its wasting useless cpu cycles.

>>60961870
*ful

>>60961628
The one counterexample is server stuff. .NET, MSSQL, and PowerShell are on Linux, PSRemoting is being replaced with OpenSSHd and a VT100/ANSI convertible Windows shell, and MS wrote Linux drivers for Azure and Hyper-V. WSL exists to stop webdevs from switching to Ubuntu laptops.

MS is terrified of losing the hypervisor, cloud, and application wars. They already lost the server war.

>>60960935
>>60961001
I tried https://github.com/mcrapet/plowshare-module-mega
But fails with the message

meta-MAC mismatch
Failed inside mega_download() [1]

After that Ive use --ignore-crc switch to ignore meta-MAC mismatch but throws

chmod failed

What am I doing wrong?

I have set up the Breeze Dark theme on KDE, however the qBittorrent UI is still light, any idea why?

>try kubuntu for a week
>VMWare broke 3 fucking times
>VMWare doesn't connect to phones (which I need to work via iOS VM)
>For some unknown reason vmmon has been removed
Only good thing, make came implemented by default lmao.

>>60962612
It uses Qt4, which KDE5 doesn't theme. Try KTorrent or bug the qBittorrent devs for a rebuild against Qt5.

Thoughts in zsh/oh-my-zsh?

Thoughts on fish/oh-my-fish?

>>60963146
Zsh has some nice features. Oh-my-zsh is retarded bloat.

>>60963146
People switch to zsh either to be special snowflakes or because they see cool prompts like in OP pic or because they hear it has better completion (not true btw).
Most of them have no idea that the same look can be achieved with bash, that you can embed commands into your PS1 and they probably haven't heard of PS2, PS3 and PS4.
They haven't even heard of ~/.inputrc, they don't know how to add custom keybinds in bash, they don't know that you can change the editing mode of the interactive shell to be Vi-like.
They don't know about incremental search nor do they know about different completion settings.

Also, shell scripting in a non standard shell is pointless, since you still need to know POSIX scripting and in most cases bash, since it has more features than sh and unlike zsh it's everywhere.
If you want to use a sane language for scripting, use python or if you're writing a large script you might as well use a non interpreted programming language like C.

Zsh users are mostly ignorant impresionable people, hipsters of all sorts including nu-male macfag webdev sitting at starbucks types and most of them like to pretend to be cool for using a non standard shell while barely having scratched the surface of bash and I do not want to be associated with them in any way.
In order to make an informed decision about which shell to use, you've got to at least know the basics of both shells (and yes, the examples I mentioned above are basic stuff).
There might be valid reasons to use zsh, but most people certainly don't do it for valid reasons.

>>60963212
This is pasta btw

>>60963212
>better completion (not true btw).
But it does and i dont have to install 50 pearl extensions to get it and it only be half assed

I wish dash had autocompletion so I could ditch bash

Trying to install Ubuntu Server 14.04.5 from CD and I'm getting tons of errors at the start along the lines of

mount: mounting /dev/sda# on /media failed: Invalid argument
umount: can't umount /media: Invalid argument

This is the second try right now. On the first try after 3 of those messages I kept hitting ^C and Esc after which the setup continued as normal until I chose my keyboard layout; after the hardware detection it should go on to network settings but I never got there... just a purple screen with a white line across the bottom where I could type (but actually typing commands didn't do anything), which eventually turned into a black screen. Nothing after that.

Couldn't install desktop version from USB stick either because although the live system booted fine on my laptop, when I tried to boot it on the PC I just got a few minutes of straight beeping until I killed the power.

what font are you all using?

>>60963339
DejaVu fonts pretty much everywhere. They seem to work fine.

I've only used Ubuntu 16.04 on my laptop. If I install Debian 9.0 on it do I have to tweak anything for increased battery life?

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>>60960187
be careful who you idolize /g/uys

>>60963398
Probably.
The fact that you didn't tweak anything on Ubuntu doesn't bode well. I'm fairly certain that your battery life will be better on Debian right off the bat

>>60963465
Does DE affect much? I've tried them all. Cinnamon and GNOME have had the best support for my multiple display/audio device setup but those might eat a ton of battery.

>>60963507
Yeah it does.

>>60963538
Nevermind. Shitty laptop. Trackpad doesn't work with Debian installer so I doubt it'll work with the real thing. Plus wi-fi firmware is not found (even if I use the firmware .iso). Guess I'll just keep Ubuntu on the laptop for now.

>>60963406
Is that Lennart?

>>60963609
I only came here to shitpost, i dont know what a lennart is, im in way over my head here, sorry guys, back to your kde vs genome bullshit. pbuy

>>60963406
Lennart Poettering is a child rapist, no news here.

>>60963630
We all only came here to shitpost

>>60963648
it was supposed to be a stallman

>>60963646
I always thought he is a free softwar developer.

When partitioning a drive for a pure GNU/Linux system: Do I make the /boot partition bootable, or not? (set the bootable flag or not)

>>60963751
yes

Lets make the worst program ever.

What features should it have?
- electron / nodejs based
- pulseaudio dependency
- systemd dependency
- permissive license
?

>>60963780
>>>/g/dpt

>>60963698
It honestly looks more like poettering to me

>>60963780
It should be a GUI alternative to an extremely easy to use *nix tool that takes like 3kB on the disc.

>>60963751
You don't have to have a separate partition just for /boot. But whatever partition DOES have /boot should be made bootable.

>>60963780
electron with a c++ extension based on boost libraries.

>>60963932
frontend for wget?

>>60963780
- no licence
- no readme

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>>60963918

>>60963780
This is a terribly near-sighted idea and you should be ashamed. What makes you think that most of the worst software projects that you can think of didn't start as a joke? It's all fun and memes, then someone decides to implement it ironically and puts it on github, and a few years later all major software projects have a hard dependecy on it.

>>60963918
is poettering the guy that farted on twitter if you werent a femenist or some shit?

>>60963780
Add a reward/archivement system.

Is it at all possible to get an older version of saved file in GNU/Linux?

I really fucked up when working on a digital painting in Krita, accidentally pressed a keyboard to crop the painting and didn't realize it until hundreds of steps later after I zoomed out, losing hours of work.

I know there's a backup file, but when I open it, Krita throws an error that the file doesn't exist. Is there any other way?

>>60963976
I don't see it man.

>>60964087
teach me your ways, master

>>60963780
camel case binary name

>>60963780
-has code of conduct
-displays things using html, needs qtwebkit
-flat, touch oriented interface, even in desktop PCs

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>>60964104
>tfw NetworkManager

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>>60964138
ditched it already, such a piece of shit really.

setnet.sh is suprirsingly usable, even on a fucking laptop, once you have a list of wifi networks you use (at work at home at school) wpa_supplicant handles shit on it's own

https://lists.debian.org/debian-hurd/2017/06/msg00017.html

Anyone running hurd ?

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>>60964174
>The supported memory size was extended beyond 3GiB
when did it all go so wrong

>>60964174
obsolete.

I'm installing KDE Neon User Edition and hoping this will stop my distrohopping. I long for a stable OS with up-to-date desktop environment. Will KDE Neon satisfy my needs?

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how can i reduce this space

>>60964410
no not really

>>60964172
I find that there are certain edge cases that NM handles better than raw wpa_supplicant. Some APs require hammering them with 10+ association commands before it'll "stick", for example.

>>60964428
You basically don't. It used to be possible with XUL extensions but Mozilla is killing them as of FF57, which is coming this fall.

>>60964481
On further review it looks like Mozilla themselves are implementing proper Gtk3 CSD support for some future release post FF57, possibly by FF60.

>>60964174
Will try it when I'm at home, thanks.

>>60964428
stylish

>>60964428
That's why I don't appreciate gnome based DE, they don't permit to customize some stuff like those easily.

Playing around with compton and just can't find the perfect shadow settings. Anyone wants to share his perfect shadows?

>>60964686
Here, pasted straight from my .compton.conf:

shadow = false;

No need for shadows if your windows are never on top of each other. #justi3things

https://sourceforge.net/projects/archopenrc/
Is this git gud?

>>60964802
Also is systemd botnet a meme o real shit?

>>60964978
or*

Is Wayland better than Xorg? if so, why?

>>60960216
fucking shill

>>60964769
>not using i3-gaps
ugly desktop spotted

>>60964802
> https://sourceforge

>>60964686
shadow-radius = 16;
shadow-offset-x = -23;
shadow-offset-y = -23;
shadow-opacity = 0.75;

>>60964802
>>60964978
SystemD doesn't have the botnet, but it has other problems. Its design is an attack against diversity and flexibility of the GNU/Linux "ecosystem".

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Sup doods.
I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 and the standard file manager that comes with it.
Is there a way I can add a "date taken" modifier to the Details list and to retain that sorting priority when using tiles?
I do some photography and after I developed the JPEGs from my raw files, they all land in the same folder. For me it's most important to know when I took a picture in that folder and the naming of the files isn't consistent, due to camera resets, new cameras and differend brands. Using the "date modified" doesn't work either because when I revisit old photos and redo them in darktable

I want to get rid of Ubuntu and install arch, but I keep getting "unable to mount root fs on unknown block". Every guide I look for on uninstalling Ubuntu is only for users who are duel booting windows.

>>60965157
shadow-opacity = 0.5 and it's perfect, ty baby

I have a question about Debian.

If I'm on Stretch now, and have KDE 5.8 installed and a bug/security flaw appears that was fixed in 5.9 what happens? I know that software versions in Debian stay the same.

The recent KMail Gpg bug would be a good example, it was fixed in the latest KDE, but still there in debian

So I succeeded in installing Ubuntu server, but I can't get a network connection. I can ping localhost no problem, but as soon as I try to ping anything on the local network I get Destination Host Unreachable for all packets. Here's the /etc/network/interfaces:

# loopback
auto lo
iface lo inet loopback

# primary network
auto eth0
iface eth0 inet static
    address 192.168.178.21
    gateway 192.168.178.1
    netmask 255.255.255.0
    network 192.168.178.0
    broadcast 192.168.178.255

When I try to restart the networking daemon:

anon@anon-server:~$ sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
stop: Job failed while stopping
start: Job is already running: networking

>>60965555
no idea, but nice digits

>>60965543
Debian Stable doesn't mean stable software, it means the bugs are consistent and predictable.

In casss where bugs are found, unless they are significant they will not be fixed until the next Debian release in 2 years.

>>60965604
bad meme

>>60965625
It literally says exactly that in their documentation

>>60965648
it also says that stable has a security team

>>60965625
So what happens when a bug is found and upstream fix it In a new release? The Debian packagers sure as shit won't do anything because that's just what they are, packagers. The Debian security team is focused on the actual OS and not individual pieces of software so they won't do anything.

>>60965667
Stable's security team is there to focus on the actual OS (Userland and Kernel).

Bug fixes are done in unstable and then move into testing for the next stable release in 2 years. These fixes will never reach the current stable

>>60965704
see >>60965625
please re-read the docs

>Keyboard randomly stops working
>Quick search menu thing on kubuntu also randomly stops working
>Sidebar doesn't hide when I fullscreen things like VMs
>Sidebar decides to exist only in particular screens
>randomly directories get deleted and can never be generated again (vmmon)
>Randomly freezes to shit for no reason

Yep, I might be retarded, but I'm a retard with a job, ubuntu doesn't work for work computers way too much fucking trouble shooting.

>>60965730
>has issues with bloated DE that he didn't set up properly
>blames Ubuntu
Every time.

>>60964802
nice

Update on the networking stuff:
I was obviously using the correct device; I disabled the Ethernet adapter in the BIOS and now eth0 isn't listed in ifconfig's output anymore.
It might just be the cable or the router; I connected my laptop via ethernet and it didn't work either. Recognized the interface being active but got no network connection.

what is a nice and lightweight epub reader for linux?

>>60965751
I installed Kubuntu not straight up ubuntu.

Nor I see how installing any other meme-distro will fix any issue there such as the VM one. But feel free to yell how one does and give no hard data on how it does.

>>60965704
Is this true? I just installed Stretch and was really excited about it but if this is true I don't really want to use it

>>60965256
If they have proper exif metadata you can use exiftool to grab the date taken. You could try grabbing the creation time (ctime) using the stat tool. If you want to organize the on disk but don't want to rename you can set the modified time to the date from the exif metadata using the touch tool.

>>60965830
Stop using VMware in general. QEMU_KVM is much faster (ESXi levels of performance, full GPU passthrough available), is fully Free Software, and has tools out there to convert vmdks to QEMU qcow2 or raw images.

>>60965555

> gateway 192.168.178.1
that's the ip of your router?

>>60965287
Just re format the petition?

>>60965804
sorry, but linux has no epub readers :(

>>60965543
If it is a security flaw the maintainers should back port a fix. Check the bts to see if there is a relevant bug report or raise one yourself.

>>60965894
Yes.
I figured out that I had to plug the ethernet cable into the router's LAN port 1, not 4. It all works now.

>>60965555
Confirm the gateway up is the of your router and post the output of ip addr and ip route

>>60964978
>is systemd botnet a meme
seems real https://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/6hzaxx/systemd_falls_back_to_google_nameservers_when_no/

>>60965959
See >>60965942
The settings were all correct, it was a hardware issue.

>>60965681
Nope, they at called debian developers, not packages. And they should cherry pick bug fixes to backports and security fixes to security.

>>60965962
even more botnet: https://github.com/systemd/systemd/issues/437

>>60965923
hu? calibre comes with one.

>>60965923
Isn't calibre on Linux?

Anyway, for lightweight just unzip the epub and use a browser. You can even cat all the html files into one long one of you swing that way

>>60966021
>Isn't calibre on Linux?
no

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>>60966004
kek

>>60966021
>Isn't calibre on Linux?
Yes it is. It's even in debian-main.

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>>60966202
>>60966036
>>60966021
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

Why aren't you using Open Source NSA Software?
https://nationalsecurityagency.github.io/
https://github.com/nationalsecurityagency

What's the difference between normal and system groups?

How to read ebooks in a terminal:
1. Install the einfo and w3m commands. einfo is usually packaged in epub-tools or similar.
2. Add this function to your bash or zsh rc file:

epub() { einfo -pp "$1" | w3m -T text/html }

3. Source your rc-file again or open a fresh shell and run

epub /path/to/ebook.epub

>>60966562
How to read ebooks in a terminal:
1. Install nothing.
2. Add this function to your bashrc:

epub() {
    unzip -caa "$1" '*html' | w3m -T text/html
}

3. ????
4. PROFIT

>>60965892
Does it emulate OSX? Because I really need to emulate OSX.

>>60966633
That's the gayest thing I've read today.

>>60966562
>>60966630
nice, thanks

>>60966647
My machine doesn't run OSX, I need xcode and the potato we have at work barely can open xcode.

>>60966630
Einfo gets you some of the metadata like a ToC that a straight unzip won't do.

>>60966677
Will check, thanks.

>>60966562
>>60966630
pdftotext -nopgbrk "$1" - | w3m
and you have a pdf viewer
less with lesspipe does this automatically

Installed KDE Neon. Battery life jumped from 8 hours I had with Ubuntu MATE LTS to 10 hours and I don't even have tlp now (had it on MATE)

>>60966735
Neat, more like this!

I'm trying to make splitting 2 part episodes easier on myself, but this script skips the first segment, anyone know why?

#! /bin/sh

# vsplit [filename] [time] [EpA] [EpB]

ffmepg -i "$1" -c:v copy -c:a copy -t $2 $3
ffmpeg -i "$1" -c:v copy -c:a copy -ss $2 $4

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Yay, my server is up and running (on local network)! Only need to forward the appropriate ports and I'm ready.

>SVN server for uni stuff; access granted by Subversion on a per-folder basis; managed by dedicated system user
>fileserver accessed through SSH for unversioned stuff I don't want on my HDD at all times; rw permissions only for my account (which is also the only one with sudo rights)
>fileserver accessed through SSH for unversioned stuff my group of friends wants to share (pictures of bike meetups etc), accessible only by group members

r8
Right now I have a whopping 50 GB of space lmao
Still better than fucking Dropbox.

Should I upgrade it to Ubuntu 16.04? Can I safely do that without fucking shit up?

>>60967212
why not doing it in one step?

ffmpeg -i INPUT -t 00:05:30 -c copy OUTPUT1 -ss 00:05:30 -c copy OUTPUT2

also quote all variables

>>60967281
That worked, thanks

>>60966315
but anon, I am

god bless selinux

>>60960589
>using social media

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In order to play certain games, I need to type this in a terminal before launching Steam:

STEAM_RUNTIME_PREFER_HOST_LIBRARIES=0

Is there a way to set it so that this is already an environment argument every time I log in to my desktop? I tried putting it in my .bashrc but that didn't do anything.

Birb for attention.

>>60967579
You didnt alias correctly.
Post your alias you attempted

>>60960187
Best laptop for complete freedom?

>>60967671
check out thinkpenguin and minifree

>>60967705
Can they run a free bios?

>>60967579
1. export
2. uninstalls team
3. install gentoo

>>60967715
Never mind I looked up minifree.

what is the best Linux OS for gaming?

>>60967750
steamos

>>60967750
Alpine

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>>60967750
http://store.steampowered.com/about/

>>60967750
Stick to Windows. If you willingly use anti-user, anti-privacy DRM-enabled "services" like Steam, Netflix, etc, Linux doesn't need you. Absolute cancer.

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>>60967750
>>60967820
>>60967826

>>60967820
did canonical pay for that?

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>>60967844

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>>60967889
>Linux/GNU
It is right and proper to mention the principal contribution first. The GNU contribution to the system is not only bigger than Linux and prior to Linux, we actually started the whole activity.

However, if you prefer to call the system “Linux/GNU”, that is a lot better than what people usually do, which is to omit GNU entirely and make it seem that the whole system is Linux.

>>60967844
It's just Linux

How difficult is gentoo for beginners?

>>60967579
you need to use "export STEAM_RUNTIME_PREFER_HOST_LIBRARIES=0" to make it persist outside of the local environment.

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Now that Ubuntu with Unity is basically dead, what's the go-to just werks distro? How's Mint these days, as long as you make sure you're getting the latest updates?

>>60968311
install devuan

>>60960216
why you like that OS?

>>60968311
Manjaro

>>60968311
> work for free

that's more bsd than gnu.

>>60968333
Haven't they proven themselves time and time again to be completely incompetent in regards to security?

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Calling Archfags in this thread. Thinking of going Arch or Antergos for a daily use. How long have you been running Arch and how much of a meme is breakage?

>>60968467
It's stable enough to work as my primary workstation. I literally get paid to use Arch.

>>60968467
Been running arch for 9 years.
Dont use downstream distros.
Its broken maybe 3 times by things that were out of my control,such as manual intervention for updating(systemd,openssl,xorg 1.8(only in testing repo))

Shit only breaks if you dont configure if properly,which most people will fail to take the blame them selves and push it on arch

>>60968467
>Arch
>Breakage
Wut?

>>60968499
As long as I subscribe the the news mailing list, I should be good, right?

>>60968467
Arch is for advanced users only.

>>60968524
>mailing list
Dont even need too,its way to spammy and you cant unsubscribe your self,took me 2 years to get off the fucking list despite taking my self off manually using the email shit.Had to spam aaron for a month before he fixed the issue.

Check the front page before you update if you're that paranoid.
I update once a week and before i update ill check the front page or just check what is being updated and if some big package is being updated i check the front page for any potential issues

>>60968467
>soder this HDD into the CPU?No problem.
also its fine like the other anon said most of the time breakage occurs from user error dont let the memes fool you

>>60968467
>Arch and how much of a meme is breakage?
https://warosu.org/g/?task=search&ghost=yes&search_text=%3EArch+%22That%27s+normal.%22

>>60968539
Correction: Arch is for autists only. It's easy to set up, you just need to be autistic enough to bother with it.

>>60968570
lmao wtf

>>60968539
keep telling yourself that.
Mr. Advance User.

I wonder, do people really think they are 'advance users' because they can copy paste from arch wiki?
are you using arch because it makes you feel hardcore?
do any of you remember when arch had an installer and lot of stuff was configured in a single file, rc.conf?
fucking openbsd has an installer.

I dont want urxvt to scroll the termnial text unless i type in that terminal.
I have the following,but when the terminal is spitting out to stdout,it starts scrolling down.

URxvt*scrollTtyOutput:      false
URxvt*scrollWithBuffer:     false
URxvt*scrollTtyKeypress:    true

Is there another setting i am forgetting?

TIL rms almost made wiki
https://www.gnu.org/encyclopedia/

>>60968638
no
no
yes
Cool

>>60968643
replace the stars with a dot, my son

>>60968662
Still scrolls

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>>60968638
>are you using arch because it makes you feel hardcore?
Isn't that the whole point of using Arch?

>>60968676
xrdb ~/.Xresources

>>60968687
Returns nothing

>>60968695
restart terminal

>>60968698
I've opened a new terminal each time after changing something,i also sourced .Xdefaults

what do people mean when they post "install gentoo"?

>>60968751
They mean take what ever sissy OS you were using before, throw it in the trash, and fucking install gentoo. Motherfucker.

>>60968784
thanks

>>60968794
No problem.

>>60960187
Best linux music player?

>>60968845
mpd+sonata

windows media player

>>60968845
ALSA

>>60968845
The one I'm using.

>>60968845
what the fuck is wrong with you retards
choose the one you like most and fuck off

>>60968876
But what if i dont know all of the available options? How can i make an informed decision if i only know of 10% of what is available?

>>60968845
GNU/Linux*

>>60968888
copied from OP for your comvenience
>What are some cool programs?
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/list_of_applications
also: nice digits

>>60968911
So again,i only know 10% of whats avalible.

>>60968916
see >>60968916
and pick a random one

>>60968845
mpd+ncmpcpcmcpcmcpcmcpcmpcmppcmcpcmcpp

>>60968331
What is not to love about the package manager and the minimal defaults? I don't know about others but that I like that from SMGL.

>>60968937
You forgot the +
>ncmpcpcmcpcmcpcmcpcmpcmppcmcpcmcpp+

>>60968894
*Linux

>>60968999
GNU/Linux*

>>60969004
>>60968999
unix*

>>60969004
*Linux

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>>60969049
gtfo

>>60969050
Linux-based GNU system*

>>60968539
Correction:
Arch is for people who can read wiki's and manuals only.

>>60969113
>Arch is for people who can read wiki's and manuals only.
>implying
thats why 80% of stupid questions in these threads are made by archers

>>60968638
I use parabola because trisquel took up to much disk space.

>>60968945
why isn't smgl on the fsf list? do they even know about the distro? someone tell em!

>>60969109
*Linux system

>>60969258
Linux kernel*

>>60969312
Linux is a term for the kernel and operating systems using said kernel.

When I try to connect to my wifi my system says "no secrets provided." It was working fine an hour ago and still works on my windows partition, what the hell's going on?

>>60969565
distro?
how are you trying to connect?

Question, /flt/: I'm going some programming on an office computer that runs Kubuntu and I don't have root privileges. I want to install an editor like sublime or atom because the ones on there already aren't cutting it, but I keep getting permission denied for everything I try. Is there anything I can do without root?

>>60969681
I'm guessing you're trying to install it through the package manager.

The way linux is structures is that typically software is installed owned by root and then run as normal users. This prevents the software from even making changes to itself and is always a clean copy, with configuration files and shit existing inside the user directories.
It's a pretty good security model.

However nothing is preventing you from installing stuff without the package manager. Probably the easiest way is to just find the kubuntu package you want and download it manually through your web browser to your users home directory then unpack it.
Alternatively you could also just get the source code and compile it yourself.

>>60969681
/fglt/*
>>60969729
GNU/Linux

Seriously.

>>60969681
visual studio code .tar.gz works without root

>>60969738
Isn't the gnu thing a /g/ meme?

>>60969729
I sort of get it. I've installed stuff before by cloning it from git and then `make`ing it, but these editors don't seem to work the same.

In particular, here's the instructions to install atom on Linux:

git clone https://github.com/atom/atom.git
cd atom
script/build

When I try that last command, I get an error that it can't find usr/bin/node. I googled the error and all the results said I need to use ln to made a symbolic link to something, which I can't do without root. I did a little digging in usr/bin and it looks like something I definitely shouldn't be touching.

Once I get the source, what else can I try to compile it?

>>60969738
*Linux

>>60969757
Yes

>>60969782
>>60969804
>>60969757

Linux is the name of the kernel that Linus Torvalds developed starting in 1991. The operating system in which Linux is used is basically GNU with Linux added. To call the whole system “Linux” is both unfair and confusing. Please call the complete system GNU/Linux, both to give the GNU Project credit and to distinguish the whole system from the kernel alone.

>>60969782
I would guess that node thing is a dependency which you don't have.

>>60969782
It explains it right on the page how to do it https://github.com/atom/atom

>>60969782
If you have node installed but thitty atom can't find it because it hard codes the path just search in the source where it is hardcoded and change it.

>>60969814
The fact is, and this is something that people who spend a lot of time behind a screen can forget, GNU/Linux is awkward to say. For plebs, calling it Linux is enough because they don't need to distinguish between the OS and the kernel, just like it's enough to call the Sears & Roebuck Company just Sears.

I see the same thing with SJWs who never leave Tumblr and want to erase all gendered language. How do you pronounce "Latinx"? And why would you ever expect anyone who speaks a Latin language to care?

>>60969832
>>60969848
I actually couldn't find the thing node should be linked to, so I guess I'm screwed.

>>60969837
The problem is I can't sudo.

>>60969857
If GNU/Linux is too long, just say GNU.

>>60969868
It would just be more involved since you can't install the dependencies to the location where it would expect them. I'm sure it can still be done but I don't have any personal experience doing something like that.

Why not just download the binary?

>>60969905
>Why not just download the binary?

You mean the Windows version? Madness. I'll try it next time I'm there.

installed arch
what do i need to do before updating to make sure nothing breaks

>>60969919
Just download the ".deb" right on the front page
https://atom.io/

Then go to where you downloaded it and type:
>ar x <package_name>.deb
From the files it unpacks all you need is the "data.tar.gz" archive.
Unpack it
>tar xfva data.tar.gz
then you should have a usr/bin/atom binary. Just run it.

>>60969814
Sure GNU deserves credit, but so do Red Hat, fd.o, etc. Why draw the line at GNU when GNU is arguably not even the most important contribution? I mean, Linux without GNU? No problem, just use different coreutils. Linux without X11? Now that's a different story. Linux without GNU is perfectly possible (and multiple distros exist, I run one), Linux without Linux, on the other hand, is not.

>>60969876
*Just say "Linux"

>>60960187
i fell for the linux meme, nothing seems to work. First my laptop touchpad wouldn't work at all, so I used an external mouse, it sort of works, but it doesnt click properly, single clicks take two and double clicks take three.

Can any explain to me why this is superior to windows again? I just want to install wireshark and i'm getting dependency errors and dependency dependency errors. Please help

>>60970228
You're either lying, using shitty hardware, doing everything wrong, or some combination thereof.

>>60970274
>replying to obvious bait
not the spirit of this general

It's GNU/Linux and no amount of RedMumbai butthurt is going to change it

>>60970228
Because "better" is a relative term. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say it was better from a "user friendly, just werks" laymans perspective.

It's better in the sense of more technical design choices, and is immensely more enjoyable to use for people who are tech literate. Because using windows is like trying to dance in a body cast, it gets in your way every time you try to do anything even slightly unconventional.

and finally, because the things windows excels at are literal bandaids thrown on top of its own OS. There is no reason GNU/Linux wouldn't also work just as well, if not even better, if it had even a fraction of the desktop userbase and financial backing that windows has.

But you know anon, you don't have to actually use something just because you think it's good in some way. Nobody is stopping you from liking the idea of GNU/Linux even if you choose to stick with Windows.

P.S. Your touchpad will work if you install synaptics.

>>60970306
Oh, did the owner of the operating system make a statement about that which I missed?

Who is the owner again anyway? I forgot.

>>60970317
>replying to obvious bait

>>60970274
Well I can only use the hardware I have, it's pretty shit, yeah. But I don't know what else I've done wrong, I'm booting it on my shit tier HP laptop from a lexar flash drive, it was quite a while ago that I put ubuntu on this flash drive, but I remember trying debian and a few other distros first and none of them would work at all, so I'm slowly making progress. Is there any benefit to installing the OS instead of just selecting "Try" every time?

>>60970296
>Calling my post bait
I thought these threads were supposed to be noob friendly.

>>60970340
>I thought these threads were supposed to be noob friendly.
Yeah, but the key word is "noob", not "/v/edditor"

>>60970379
i've literally never even gone to that fucking board, I wouldn't even know what it is if faggots like you weren't always posting about it. You're the one mentioning video games, maybe you should head back over to your favorite board.

>>>/v/
>>>/r/eddit.com/r/videogames

>>60970396
sure thing friend, whatever lets you sleep at night

>>60968455
Turning back your clock to make an invalid cert valid, what is there to be concerned about :^)

>>60970414
so any insights on why I can't seem to download wireshark? I tried sudo apt-get update and upgrade. I got a "CRITICAL** Error while moving old data base out of the way"

and also a bunch of "pipe broken" errors and said something about the disk being full. Is it possible the flash drive just doesn't have enough space on it? Would installing from the flash drive fix this? If so, would my files be safe?

>>60969970
Thanks. I'll try that.

>>60970456
>so any insights on why I can't seem to download wireshark? I tried sudo apt-get update and upgrade. I got a "CRITICAL** Error while moving old data base out of the way"
You're booting a liveUSB. It's a demonstration not a functioning system (it is in case of distributions like tails, but they purposefuly do not allow saving any data to it, and is read-only always)

>If so, would my files be safe?
On your windows partition? Yeah "formatting" usually implies "getting rid of the data".

>>60970456
For fucks sake. You said there was an error, didn't give us any details. Saind there was another error, didn't give us any details. Then mentioned a thing that only you can check. We are not mind readers and if you don't put in any effort to fix your own problems people are just going to tell you to blindly copy and paste commands that will fuck your system up even more.

>>60970509
So I guess I'm stuck to windows, then. Great. Thanks anon.

>>60970542
That was what the error said: "CRITICAL**: Error while moving old database out of the way". Anyways it's clear now that the source of my problems is that I'm using a liveUSB, I don't think it even has enough space.

>>60970456
So you called GNU/Linux a "meme" because it doesn't work as a perfect fully functioning operating system running off of a USB stick?

Good luck trying to run Windows off of a USB drive in any capacity at all.

>>60960379
how are you supposed to read that shit

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>>60965885
I have no idea what any of these tools are.
I can't select "date taken" as a column being displayed in the file manager. that's what I wanna do

Mint crashed on me yesterday and I had to use boot-repair to get her back but now all my applications have disappeared from the start menu. What do?

>>60969681
use an appimage

>>60970564
use an appimage https://bintray.com/probono/AppImages/Wireshark

Hello I'm new.

Why is it that I can uninstall software several times through Ubuntu Software and again through the terminal yet the software remains fully operational?

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How's eGPU support on GNU/Linux?

>>60971024

Doubt you can, you're doing something wrong.

>>60971081
How should I be doing it?

>>60971088

How did you do it? Which program did you uninstall post the exact commands you typed.

anyone using awesome windows manager? what does it mean when there is two arrows before a window title?

>>60971117
sudo apt-get --purge remove audacious
and
sudo apt-get remove audacious

>>60971074
No hotswap/hotplug for Thunderbolt since it's treated as PCIe.

>>60971338
And?
Do I have to use external monitor?
Propriety drivers?

>>60971321

An when you type "audacious" in your terminal it still starts up?

Post the output of "which audacious"

>>60971389
/usr/bin/audacious

>>60971402

Post output of "dpkg -S /usr/bin/audacious"

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Anyone know what happened to my browser fonts? They look atrocious.
>Debian Sid
>Firefucks ESR 52.2.0

I have a server now which I would like to access using SSH.
That works fine on the local network, but when I try it over the internet I can't get it to work. The server's local address is static.

Server:

anon@server:$ dig myip.opendns.com @resolver1.opendns.com +short
1.2.3.4

Client:

anon@client:$ ssh 1.2.3.4:30022
ssh: Could not resolve hostname 1.2.3.4:30022: Name or service not known

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Found this in someone's aliases.

>pgrep
>c

>>60971510

Because your server's public IP adress is not 1.2.3.4.

>>60971523
I substituted the actual public address for privacy reasons, obviously. Did you even read the CLI output I posted?

>>60971536

Not really.
Make sure you have no firewall running or that it allows connections on that port and that your router (if you're using one) isn't running one which blocks it or if they are forwarded correctly and open.

>>60971510
>>60971523
>>60971545
How about you two read the actual error message, not to mention the manpage?

Could not resolve hostname 1.2.3.4:30022

That's not a routing problem. It's clearly treating all of "1.2.3.4:30022" as a host name and, obviously, failing to resolve it, and this is happening becase IP:PORT is not the syntax ssh accepts.

>>60971587

Wew, you're right.

make new-thread -j1

We need a new thread now!

>>60971743
>actually bothering to post this instead of just making it yourself

>>60971811
>>60971811
>>60971811
>>60971811

>>60968311
Only Unity is dead. Ubuntu is fine. Use a different DM, that's all.

I am in need to choose one of these laptops
Acer Aspire VX15 VX5-591G-57HQ
i5-7300HQ + GTX 1050
or
Lenovo Legion Y520-15IKB
i7-7700HQ + GTX 1050

I wanted to ask if anyone had experience of running GNU/Linux (specifically arch) on either and if they will be able to function without problems
(with without problems i mean bumblebeed runs and works and the OS in general is able to function after a normal installation)