/pcbg/ - PC Building General - Housefires II Edition

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First for cool temps to ryzen owners.

>>60948545
mine goes up to 60 degrees during prime95, still okay I think.

>>60948590

Ryzen is good until 90c but 60c under prime95 is still far below what most Intel chips hit. I just happen to have a 250-300w TDP capable cooler bolted onto my 1700.

>>60948620
I have the 1600 with the amd cooler. Prime95 makes the cpu go up to 60 degrees and the gpu on furmark around 65 degrees. I'm happy with my first build.

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>>60948545
>>60948590
>>60948620
>>60948687
DELID DIS YOU FILTHY GOYIM!!!

>>60948545
Not bad.

1070 does 1440p maxed out on fucking everything. Why lie?

What do you guys think about this? Would like to keep the build around 1200 currently, might SLI the 1080 next month if I end up getting a 144hz monitor next week. Need new peripherals in general.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/p6ftFd

Mostly play MMO's, Total War games, strategy stuff in general.

Did the 1070 jump in price for some retarded reason?

Why is cleaning the cpu/motherboard contacts such a controversial subject if it results in lowered temps?

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I have this (plus one more 1070 not pictured, just on my desktop atm) getting me about 27-33 USD a day minus 3 bucks in electricity charges. Do I put the other 1070 on their and buy two 1080tis to mine on my desktop while waiting to build another 1070 build, or just buy more 1070s? I guess getting the two ti's would be better done later.

>>60948776
This is completely retarded.

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>>60948475
Hey lads,

I'm brainstorming for a mod project. Pic related, John Henry Eden from FO3 (aka Zax AI unit). I think it'd be a cool thing to build, but what else should I include? General thoughts?

>>60948847
Thanks. Why? What can I fix?

>>60948862
>i5-7600K
>H270
>buying Intel in 2017
>slow RAM
>Kekston SSD
Do your research or buy a prebuild and pay the tech illiterate tax.

>>60948776
if your monitor is 1080p/144hz you can definitley do with just a 1070, you do not need a heavy GPU or SLI at all for the games you play.
get a Ryzen 5 1600x or something similar, it's around the same price as your CPU pick but the i5 lineup is kind of irrelevant right now. get an AM4 socket mobo as well, of course.
if you get a Ryzen 5 1600 you don't need to buy an aftermarket cooler cause it comes with a decent cooler. the Ryzen X CPUs do not come with coolers though.

>>60948847
don't be a cunt.

>>60948963
Thanks, I appreciate the input.I haven't built for a few years

>>60948786
cryptominers, so yes retarded indeed

>>60948776
>unlocked i5 but with h270 mobo
that's so fucking bad

don't pick i5, go ryzen 5 1600 + b350 mobo + 3200mhz ram. no need for a cooler, ryzen's stock one is pretty good.
up your ssd to at least 240gb. pick from samsung, adata, pny, sandisk
don't fell for the sli meme. most of the games don't even support it properly.
also with that 1080/1080ti you better get 1440p144hz. for 1080p gtx1070 will be plenty.

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This is my current build. I built it around 1.5 years ago. Hows it holding up , /g/?

Are you guys gamers or something? So many people only have one gpu and an expensive cpu.

>>60949059
How did you connect expensive CPU + single GPU to gamers?

>>60949109

Cause there's no reason to have an expensive cpu if you are mining, and yeah, maybe you bought all the parts except for the extra gpus, but there's no one here besides me with more than 2 gpu's.

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According to PCGamer, this is the best budget gaming PC right now.
Thoughts?

>>60948545
cooler?
I'm at 68 at 3.6GHz on the stock cooler

>>60948776
very bad desicions anon. and please DON'T go with SLI. is better to get a 1080ti.
That said. for 144hz at 1080p in strategy games, a 1070 is good enough.
I would also advise you getting a R5 1600, while pairing it with a decently fast RAM

>>60949024
Pretty good. you may be well of for two more years.

>>60949059
>gamers
Well that is the most common request on /pcbg/
>One GPU and an expensive CPU
what do you mean? also SLI/CF sucks.

>>60949127
>Cause there's no reason to have an expensive cpu if you are mining
Son, there are more than gamers and miners in the world. Some people have nice cpus to OC and play around with; some do research; etc. etc.

>maybe you bought all the parts except for the extra gpus, but there's no one here besides me with more than 2 gpu's.

Not sure what you're trying to communicate with this. Multi-GPUs can also be chosen for a variety of reasons, not just gaming.

>>60949150
>EVGA PSU
Replace it with a seasonic for the same price.

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>>60949150

>bentium

No.

>>60949169


>cooler?

I'm so glad the crosshair has AM3+ mounting holes. Sure I don't need x370 but I wanted to go all in with a top tier cpu (be it Intel or AMD) and not having to wait/replace my cooler is dead handy.

Looking for a fully modular PSU. Currently have an i5 2500k w/ a 7950, but will be upgrading to 2011 (not v3) and will be filling the dimms out and getting another 7950 or perhaps a new card completely. Any thoughts?

>inb4 lol poorfag

I got an old Q8200 system from Ebay and paired it with an RX 560 4gb.

Thank gawd for Microcenter.

>>60949150
>1070 (FOR 449!)
>275GB SSD
>16GB 2666(for $126?)
>$71 Case
>Budget

this is retarded and beyond.
do you actually need a buidl or just wanted to discuss the terrible recommendations of PCGamer?

>>60949199
Yeah. Those temps now make sense.

>>60949212
how come you're going to 2011? got some good deals?

>>60949180

I meant gpu mining. I consider g*mers to be sub human so I'd rather find a forum that is too obscure for them.

What else would you even do with consumer parts?

>>60949169

You don't sli for mining.

>>60949241
>do you actually need a buidl or just wanted to discuss the terrible recommendations of PCGamer?
the second one

>>60949150
drop go 8GB and an RX 570 and you have the best budget PC

>>60949169
>>60949250
>You don't sli for mining.
then why
>might SLI the 1080 next month if I end up getting a 144hz monitor next week
?

>>60949241
Going 2011 because I've found some decent deals, and I also really liked the last 2011 system I had (Before I left for uni). I looked at the V3's and on top of being absurdly expensive, the new chipset isn't that much more attractive and honestly if my old 771 server chips and a single 7950 could max anything I threw at it, I don't need the extra power of the newest gen socket.

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>>60949241

>Yeah. Those temps now make sense.

Certainly but even still those temperatures are impressive for the core count under that workload. Heat density is a serious issue for these tiny cpus (an issue Intel slams into hardest due to their process advantage) as ryzen 7 and 5 are relatively large cpus due to their MCM nature which makes cooling easier. It is why i9 cpus are basically impossible to cool at decent clocks (read: <3ghz) when going over 8-10 cores because the heat density is so high you can't draw heat off the die fast enough.

For that all said ryzen is running far, far above zen's optimal clock vs power draw point as the architecture in general is massively effeciency focused and not aimed towards being a speed demon. Zen at 2ghz-3ghz slaughters anything Intel makes.

Same reason why desktop polaris is massively overvolted - AMD built a chip to run at seriously low clocks/power draw and simply cranked it to 11 for the desktop market.

5 1080ti build or 6 1070 build? Limited on electricity, not money.

>>60949286

That's not me.

Jesus Christ I can't stand these fucking losers buying a million GPUs so they can mine for virtual coins and make a 5 dollar a day profit after a year of 24/7 mining.

>>60949313
>Heat density is a serious issue for these tiny cpus

Yeah, Intel's i9 lineup seems to be no0t bad but terrible at this. they want to OC Xeons and rebrand them, and it's not working oujt for them.

Just look at that embarrassing 100°C with the Fractal Design Celius24 with the 240mm rad. That's a very good cooler and to think that it is not capable of mantaining the CPU at even working temps (around 80°C) is just a disgrace.

the same thing will apoply to threadripper, but since the Ryzen efficiency is carried over, and the die size is much higher, the thermal conductivity will be spread out, working greatly in Threadripper's favor.

Seems like AMD is making all the right moves.

>>60949015
if he goes with a1080ti he must pair it with a r7 cpu otherwise the r5 series will bottleneck the shit out of the gpu

>>60949354
1080ti has more perf/watt.
but I donpt know how that scales to the Hashrate. there shopuld be some info aroudn the web. and yeah I supposed that wasn´t you.

>>60949382
Well, those ones that started mining etherum when it was under $80 are now literally swimming in money. all their rigs shoudl be easily payed off by now (if they held onto the eth)
Since then,the value of ETh raised 5 times. think about the people who got in at $20USD/ETH. now that's a good deal

>>60949461
nah.
I mean, you get a 1080ti to play at 4k, right? in that case the 1600 will not bottleneck the FPS.

>>60949475

I'm gonna do one 1080ti build cause I can only have so many rigs. I'd do all 1080ti's but I'm not made of money.

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>>60949425

>the same thing will apoply to threadripper

Perhaps but relatively speaking threadripper is absolutely massive which makes cooling much, much easier. I don't expect 4ghz XFR clocks on threadripper but I do hope for low 3ghz territory across all 32 threads which - should this be true - will put threadripper far beyond Intel's reach.

are used gtx 980ti's the best perf/$ purchase right now?

>>60949533

No and have never been. The champion of price vs performance on the used market was R9 290 and nothing has topped it since.

>>60949499
>only two TR4 coolers at launch
>both from Noctua
kek, guess who got the shekels from the kikes at AMD?

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Does a patched version of windows10 perform worse than a paid version?
I dont care about the spying, im not instaling linux, thank you

>>60949564
The mining rush has affected 290s. 290s and 980 tis are basically the same price second hand now, $300, and the nvidia cards perform better with lower wattage.

>>60949605

Or more likely Noctua saw and opening to be the defacto standard for TR coolers (given their history of making coolers for other SRS BSNS cpus) and got in there before anyone else does. At the end of the day no matter what one can say about noctua having a poor product is not one of them.

>>60949679

Only because mining has picked up again - in late 2014 and most of 2015 290's were dirt cheap both new and used to the point they were cheaper than the likes of a 770 or 960.

First time build, looking to spend around $1000. Any advice? Here's what I got:

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m2CcLD

>>60949708
Looks generally alright. Tips:

- Power supply is probably overkill. If you can find a cheaper Gold+ 550-600W, go for it
- 16 GB of RAM is fine if you really want it, but your build would do just alright with just 8 and you'd save like 50 bucks.
- Try to find higher frequency RAM (3200 or so) because it tends to work better with Ryzen and isn't much more expensive
- Unless you have close to or more than around 250 GB of stuff you want to port over, consider pooling the money you'd spend on that SSD+HDD combo and just buy a bigger SSD, and add an HDD later. This is unnecessary though.

We're Deathadder bros btw, it's a good mouse even is Razer's brand is kind of dumb

>>60949708
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/m2CcLD
Impressive if you actually find that 580 at that price
you may want to get faster ram , at 3000 or more. since ryzen benefits with faster RAM.

I also recommend getting a second screen, for a nice shitposting and gaming battlestation.

Also I recommend getting a Hitachi (HGST) 3TB Ultrastar. it's one of the most reliable HDDs and it's the same price for 3TB

Looking for a mATX Ryzen Mobo, any recommendations? Doesn't seem like there's a huge selection.

>>60949708
Mobo is trash, RAM is slow, you can fit a 240GB SSD in there, Toshiba P300 is better than memegate, RX 580 is not going to happen with the current mining craze and 650W is overkill.
Take the following build and make adjustments as you see fit: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PcDyd6

>>60949929
I have the AsRock AB350m Pro4

Everything is great..... but the RAM support (for my model at least)

It's the best for the price as far as I'm concerned, just that issue that hopefully will be patched in future BIOS updates.

>>60949970
What's the issue with the RAM? Was thinking about just doing 3200mhz.

>>60950019
Well my specific RAM kit is not supported at its native 3000MHz. and I can only boot at 2666.
Now, there are other ram kits that are supported at higher frequencies. and BIOS updates have greatly increased the list of supportede RAM, but haven't been lucky on mine

>>60948475
can i connect a regular case fan to the pumpfan on my mobo?

>>60948545
Nice. My 1600x hits 49C when running the CPU-Z stress test. I haven't tried Prime95.

>>60950073
Yeah, huh. Doesn't look like the Corsair Vengeance 3200's are in their supported RAM list.

>>60950082

CPU-Z test is severely meh - isn't enough of a cpu killer and doesn't run long enough.

guys I just bought this behemoth did I do well? I thnk its worth every euroshekel I threw in

https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/YTQnBP

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>>60950233

>speakers and headset

Pic related

>1080ti

I will let it slide since vega doesn't exist yet.

>1440p screen

Should've gone 4K.

>>60949929
>>60949970
>>60950019
>>60950073
The AB350M Pro4 is amazing value for the features it has (including 2x M.2 slots), but the ram compatibility doesn't seem to be as good as the ATX X370 boards seem to be doing. I'm not sure if any other mATX boards are much better at this point either though.

I have the AB350M Pro4 with TridentZ 3200mhz ram, but with the latest bios (agesa 1.0.0.6) I still haven't been able to boot at 3200. I have been able to boot at 3066, but I'm actually running at 2933mhz now because it seem to be more stable than even 3066 was. I also had to manually tweak a lot of the ram timings in order to get it to boot higher than 2400.

I suspect with more tweaking I could probably get it to run at 3200, but the difference between 2933 at CL16 timings and 3200 at CL18+ timings is going to be so small that it doesn't seem worth the effort.

>>60950233
nice but HOLY SHIT that's an expensive monitor, I would have gone with ultrawide. COnsider a good CPU cooler for the 1700, so you can run at 4GHz all day long at sub 60°C
also the network adapter is not AC, so depending on your internet speeds, you might bottleneck.

>>60950227
The stress test runs until you tell it to stop. The benchmark on the other hand only takes a couple seconds.

>>60950278
So it's a better idea to buy 3000mhz ram unless the price is right, then? It's a shame there's no X370 mATX boards because Ryzen seems to overclock pretty well with the default cooler and I wanted to put it in a smaller case.

>>60950073
>>60949970
>>60950278
http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/Fatal1ty%20AB350%20Gaming%20K4/index.asp#Memory

I have this from ASrock, and I know the update is there, but the QVL list didn't change at all. Even if I update the bios with the new memory update, its still risky to use anything that isnt on the QVL, right? Like a 3200

>>60950338
Don't really know, anon sorry. But yeah I don't see why the lis tshouldnt get bigger and bigger whith every update. Sitting at 2666 until AsRock let's me and i rather not mess with the seetings, since XMP is already enabled

>>60950338

>, its still risky to use anything that isnt on the QVL, right?

Risky? No - you are never in danger of damaging anything. All it means is anything on the QVL is not certified to run beyond the maximum officially supported frequency of the cpu (2666mhz in the case of ryzen).

>>60950233

Don't get that monitor, get the acer variant instead, it has better quality control than the asus. Xb27hu1 i think

>>60950233
>logishit audio
Disgusting filth.

>>60950313
From the benchmarks I have seen, Ryzen gets the biggest performance gains compared to 2133 when moving up to 2666 and 2933. There are more modest gains going up to 3200 which can still be worth it, and the benefits of going above 3200 are increasingly marginal.

Part of the issue is that the obtainable ram speeds are also related to ram manufacturer (primarily Samsung vs Hynix), ram size and number of sticks.

Ignoring manufacturer:

If you have 4x8gb or bigger, you will probably be limited to 2133.
If you have 4x4gb or 2x16gb, you should be able to run at 2400 no issues.
If you have 2x8gb or less, you should be able to run at 2666 no issues.

In each case, you may be able to hit higher speeds depending on the particular ram but these are pretty much baselines. My TridentZ is 2x16gb which is likely why I have issues getting high speeds - most people who are using 2x8gb or less seem to have much better success getting to 3200mhz or better.

Because of my particular setup for sticks/size/speed, if I were to do it again I would probably save money and buy slower than 3200. If I were building a system at 2x8gb on the other hand, I would probably still try for 3000 or 3200.

>>60950379
>580
Ah so anything 2666 will work nowadays, even if not on the QVL?

>>60950548
pretty much yeah. If it's past 2666 it will be dumbed down to 2666 as of this thread.

>>60950548

More or less yes. 2666mhz is the fast ryzen officially supports but make no mistake JEDEC only certifies 2133mhz so most (due to Intel's dominance) 2666mhz ram is valudated so ue to XMP which may or may not play nicely with ryzen. My own 3200mhz corsair vengeance ram isn't on the crosshair hero QVL but the latest beta BIOS lets me run at that speed with stock XMP timings at 80ohms impudence.

At the end of the day I would take QVL as gospel (especially since it often covers additional settings like vram voltage) over saying "yolo 2666mhz works" just to be sure.

>>60950623
>>60950610
Last question:

CMK32GX4M4B3200C16

So that is the one 32gb 3200 kit that's at a decent price and supported on the QVL. $300 on amazon.

HOWEVER. The white colored version is $20 off. But its model in not exactly on the QVL.

CMK32GX4M4B3200C16 with a W at the end.

Thats that officially mean its not supported just because of the W?

I just sold my rx470 for $325, I want to replace it with a gtx1070 but it's almost impossible to find one at msrp. Should I just wait™ for Vega/Volta, search for a 1070 at msrp, or just pay the extra $50 from msrp?

>>60950732
I noticed that too. Nearly all GPUs are being sold overpriced. This sucks.

>>60950698

I'd be surprised if a different colour on the heatsink means the DIMM underneath isn't supported but stranger things have happened.

>>60950698
well. for example, the different color LED corsair vengance have the same ram modules but different skus... if that works. I mean the modules have to be THE SAME.

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>>60950732
Same here but with a 480. Does anyone have any guesses as to when this gold rush-like buying frenzy will stop?

Best Buy had a pretty good EVGA card at $400 today with a free $60 code, but it sold out before I could blink. The deal should last a couple more weeks though, so that might be worth watching for when it restocks.

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should I buy this or just go for a 1060?

>>60951088
>Only 6 left in stock.
Shit. Better buy fast before miners do it!

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Is it a bad idea to use 2 monitor arms on one monitor like this?

It's a heavy ultrawide and I'm concerned about the weight with just one

Is a CoolerMaster 212X Dual Fan a good cooler if I intend to overclock my Ryzen?

So I wanted to build a PC that could play games like rocket league, battlefield and older stuff I missed. And I wanted to do it as cheap as possible. Here's what I got coming
>Dell optiplex 790 with i5 2400 8 gigs of RAM and a 500 gig HD for $50(case is beat to shit but I don't care)
>Gtx 660 for $48
>450 watt evga psu for $20

So for $118 in total how do you think I did? I know it's not that impressive spec wise but I feel like it's pretty good for what I want to do with it and for how much I paid.

>>60951088
what coin is that?

>>60951377

Its entirely down to how far your chip can go. Ryzen 7 at 3.8ghz all core is a good 150w+ chip.

>>60951399
That is pretty damn good for such a price, but i would've upped the GPU if i were you

>>60951399
I assume the 790 is the full case version? Quick google search brings up different versions with compact case. Seems like a decent budget build and if the cpu is socketed you could maybe upgraded it later, however look up comparability list. What battlefield do you want to play? Battlefield 1 maybe a bit too much for it.

>>60948475
Anyone have experience overclocking on a GA-AB350/AB350M Gaming 3 motherboard? What are the chances I'll get a 1700 to 4GHz on this board with an aftermarket cooler?

>>60951620
I thought about getting a 1050 ti but I saw the 660 at that price and thought fuck it, even if it doesn't perform that great in this system I can just sell it and probably lose no money on it.

>>60951649
Yes and battlefield one should run fine on medium settings I'm hoping. I read it's pretty well optimized.

>>60951678


>660
>2017

You aboslutely should've gone AMD. The 660 was shit when new and these days is barely igpu tier.

>>60951707
>and these days is barely igpu tier.
He's getting an i5 2400 though

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/b6rsQV
Got the first BenQ monitor to pair with my 1600 and 1060 build, but I didn't realize how the refresh rate of the monitor interacted with fps.

Should I sell my monitor to upgrade to a 144hz one or keep the BenQ for a second screen down the line if it's adequate?

>>60951707
Yeah I'll just ask one of the miners if I can buy a old AMD card off then for the 400+ bucks they are currently going for. That would have been a great deal.

>>60951730
Depends on what games you play.
some of them will not reach above 90fps on ultra with that GPU. You might want to consider to 60fps and just get an extra monitor

>>60951704
I played the beta with a gtx 570 and it seemed to run fine, however my card is outdated, nier automata runs like shit. Depends on games.

>>60951720

That is like saying syphilis is is better than the black plague because it is easier to treat - either way you are contracting DEATH.

>>60951767

Tahiti is still going cheap and murders gimped kepler.

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>>60951784
>That is like saying syphilis is is better than the black plague because it is easier to treat - either way you are contracting DEATH.
Food analogy are pretty confusing anon, avoid using them
Also, what's with all the empty spaces in your posts?

>>60951780
I have a PS4 and for games I know are probably going to run like shit, I'd just play on that. I'm mainly just looking to play some mainstream shooters and shit like DotA on the PC

>>60951774
Mostly old rpgs and strategy games, but I'd like to get some AAA titles now that I have a capable pc.

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>>60951795

>Also, what's with all the empty spaces in your posts?

Half a bottle of vodka yo.

Ryzen CPU + Gigabyte AX370 Gaming 5, no idea what RAM to get though - live in AussieLand so would prefer RAM supplied by MSY so returns isn't a massive hassle, but their high frequency RAM listings don't 100% match the RAM supported by the MoBO; can any Aussies/anyone help me out?

>>60951668
Pretty sure B boards aren't OC-able

>>60951668
Pretty low. There have been reports of the Gaming K3 (x370 board) shutting down past 1.25V V-core because the VRMs get too hot. And you'll need way more than that for 4.0GHz, if your chip can reach it at all.
Basically if you want an actually good overclocking board from Gigabyte you need at least the Gaming 5, which costs 200.

>>60951905
Ryzen doesn't need unlocked boards like Intel.

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>>60951905

B boards are - its the A boards that are not.

>>60951974
The A320 boards are all locked

>>60951905
b350 isn't locked, what you stated is probably a rule for intel motherboards but it isn't the same for AMD. b350 and Bxxx (intel) chipsets are not comparable.

>>60951913
Shit, maybe I'll get the Prime X370-PRO from ASUS, I was kinda hoping for a mATX build though. Do we have any kind of ETA on mATX X370 boards or the X300 chipset?

>>60951419
I was getting some feedback for my gaming/streaming pc a couple threads ago yesterday.
Basically that I could make a 1700 be overclocked as fast as a 1800 and that there's no real reason to get a 1800 because it can only go as fast.
Also that I don't really need a Noctua and can go for something cheaper as long as it cools it enough.

Was also told that I probably didn't need a X370 and to get a B350 instead.
I'm not sure still though. What would I miss out on performance-wise?

is there any conceivable way to build my own laptop or do I have to build one through a manufacturer? is a 'desktop replacement' laptop a meme or a collection of buzzwords?

>>60952019
If you want mATX the ASRock AB350M Pro4 or MSI Mortar should be decent. There actually is an x370 mATX board but it's by Biostar.
The Asus Prime Pro has great VRMs but seems to have some other build quality issues.

>>60952109
I was under the impression the VRMs on ASRock's B350 boards were worse than Gigabyte's...isn't a four phase VRM capable of delivering 184A better for regulation and power delivery than a three phase capable of 180A? Is there something I'm missing?

thinking about what I should replace in my pc now that i've built it.

what's a good cooler that'll keep the 1600 cooler than the stock.

I just installed everything, and the fans spin but no post. A CPU error light comes on on the motherboard. What did I miss plugging in? Should I RMA this CPU?

I tried reseating it Aust the first time, but still same exact problem.

PC MATE 350B
Ryzen 1600
Ballistix Sport DDR4 2400
R9 270 (RX 480 on the way)

>>60952226
Check CPU power cables.
Don't forget your thermal paste.

>>60952085

>Basically that I could make a 1700 be overclocked as fast as a 1800 and that there's no real reason to get a 1800 because it can only go as fast.

More or less - the 4.1ghz the 1800x hits is 2 core turbo, something not all 1800x chips hit when appliued across all 8 cores (to wit you lose single core performance). Most ryzen 7 chips hit 3.8-3.9ghz all core clocks which effectively gives you an 1800x (especially when pstate overclocking) with zero downsides.

>I'm not sure still though. What would I miss out on performance-wise?

Outside of overkill vrm capacity (read: rated fpr twice what ryzen 7 delivers) B350 just means less PCIE lanes which is irrelevant for single gpu usage. Unless you go all-in-always-gonna-win with NVMe pcie lanes are pointless on x370. Now riught now x370 tend to get better suppport than B350 as its the "premium" chipset but that only matterts for RAM and even then as AGESA gets updated it will filter down to B350 boards.

tl;dr unless you have money to burn or specific needs go B350.

I personally went x370 because Always bet on Keller but make no mistake I have massively overpaid for my mobo given i'm running a 3.8ghz 1700.

Does anyone have the MSI B350 Gaming Pro Carbon? What's the general consensus on it?

>>60952171
Should be better on paper, but Gigabyte chinked out on the component quality.

>>60950623
b350 tomahawk I can try and force 3200mhz but if I restart it, it'll cycle through post a few times before I have to hard reset the bios.

>>60952326
I don't know anon, it's hard to go cheaper than the NIKOs in the ASRock boards...

>>60952319
Just picked mine up on a sale, so I'm curious to hear the answer.
What I've read on other forums rates it highly, but nothing too recent.

>>60952256
nah, it would have posted, even without the thermal paste, it wouldn't have gotten that hot in just a moment.

>>60952085
>Also that I don't really need a Noctua and can go for something cheaper as long as it cools it enough.
Well yeah, but the noctua is pretty good and is not that much more expensive than the competition, on higher end coolers.

also, get a good B350 board . There's no need for a X370 unless multiple graphics cards. Most of B350 have M.2 slots and all the bells and whisles while costing about $60USD less

>Made a pretty sweet build last month
>Got drunk last night
>Forgot I have a new PC
>Ordered a new build
JUST CUT MY LIFE TO PIECES

>>60952389
What if you put the CPU in the wrong way?

>>60952330

Thats RAM training failing. Try manually imputting the timings your kit is rated for (even if XMP) and nudging the voltage up. Next step would be to up the impudence to 60ohm or so.

>>60952256

CPU cables should be in, it's an 8 slot connector bear the top right, and that's it?

And yes, I remembered thermal paste

>>60952294
So do you think I could hit 4.1ghz with the cooler or should I up the ante a bit?

as for my motherboard, hell I have about $3000 I'm just sitting on atm, so I sure as hell have money to burn, but I just want a really good streaming/gaming pc.
>>60952389
The Noctua I was going to get was the stupidly huge one with double fans.
Was there another one I should be looking at that's not like $90 and dwarf the motherboard in comparison?

>>60952319
>>60952382
I guess not many people bought it, because you can get X370 boards for not much more. It's supposed to be the best B350 board in terms of power delivery though.

>>60952429
you literally can't
there's an extra pin that won't let you do that. and you just drop the CPU into the socket. so no chance of that happened.. unless you forced it into place, which you didn't... right anon?

>>60952463
Try with only a 4-pin.

>>60952469

4.1ghz is piue silicon lottery territory anon - some chips simply will not hit that regardless of cooling. My own 1700 boots at 4ghz but won't pass more than 10 mins of stress testing at anything less than suicide voltage.

>>60952479
Forgive my ignorance but what advantage does the X370 have over the B350?

>>60952469
this is a good Noctua one, but it is huge and double fan.
>https://pcpartpicker.com/product/46tCmG/noctua-cpu-cooler-nhd14

this is a simple 120mm Rad AIO at a decent price
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/sFzv6h/corsair-cpu-cooler-cw9060015ww

and this is a 240mm radiator AIO at a REALLY low price, and has surprisingly good reviews, apparently
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/wqRFf7/deepcool-captain-240-ex-1530-cfm-liquid-cpu-cooler-captain-240-ex

>>60952536
more PCIe lanes for SLI/crossfire and overall better VRMs, but the latter is mainly because brands use the X370 plataform for their "flagship" boards. so you will find things with the best build quality and better audio or NIC. but overall the performance for a staable system and great overclocking is found in B350 aswell.

>>60952486
>>60952536
Forgive MY ignorance, but I didn't read: I actually have the X370 version (picked it up a few hours ago).

From specs, I think the major differences are better overclocking ability and SLI support.

>>60952204
Any 120mm+ tower cooler will be better than stock, and they are pretty much all within 5-10% of each other.

>>60952614
Well, it's all advertizing, really the VRMs can help but those vary even between versions of the same manufacturers. even the silicon lottery has a greater impact on the OC potential. still with any ryzen procesor you should be reaching 3.9GHz with a B350 board. maybe a bit better chances to reach 4.0 -4.1 with a X370. but then again,m it all depends on what the manufacturers decide to put in the board. So it depends more on the brand and the specific model, rather than the B350 or X370 chipset

>>60952584
>>60952614
Thanks! From what I've been reading in the thread some anons are having trouble using 3200 RAM with their mobos. What would you recommend mobos would you recommend for gaming?

>>60952516
So I've heard, but I wanted to get as close to it as possible. Which is why at first I was going for a 1800x. I do want to mess around with some emulators too.
>>60952584
Well the Noctua I was looking at yesterday was the...15, I think?
A little different, for sure.

Also I'm a tad skeptical about AiO's. What if it starts leaking? What if that damages the hundreds of dollars I poured into this?
Never used one before.

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Are the LEDs worth the extra $80

>>60952775

No.

Is there a wifi enabled am4 motherboard yet? If not what is non trash way to get wifi to your desktop? Currently building a pc. My router and modem is in my living room and I can't move it.

>>60952775
Nope.

>>60952775
Nah.

>>60952797
Run a cable

>>60952797
by a 100m long ethernet cable

>>60952820
I can't run a cable from my living room it's not feasible

>>60952830
wall outlet climbing up wall into room outlet check your house

>>60952775
>sure thing, them killer extra fps of RED LEDs are worth it for a gaymer such as yourself!

jokes aside, does it come with a better cooler atleast? $80 is stupidly high difference-

>>60952797
yeah, thera re some AC AM4 MoBos out there, but it would probably be cheaper to but a Wireless internet PCIe adapter.

and you know, thi si /g/ so I should recommend you running a ethernet cable all across your home

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>>60952775
this is what's pictured by the way, I'm thinking of shilling out the extra, how is asus support with cards?

Anyone know where i can find a used GTX 1070 for cheap?
And also where i can sell a month old 1050 ti?

>>60952858
Strix and MSI are the top end variants for 1080ti

>>60952867
Why would any sell a current gen card for cheap?

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>>60952858

>>60952906
it's amazon, he'll be fine.

>>60952897
The other day i bought a 1060 6gb for $180

Just trying to play retail wow with this, maybe destiny 2. Graphics dont have to be maxed but i would like them decent, no choppy performace. desu i dont know shit about computers
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMDV9W

>>60950264
I need mic monitoring to not sound like Darth Obesity though.

>>60952967
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/nMDV9W
okay. I can make some recommendations But first why is there no price for the GPU? and please state your maximum budget.

and intended use, other than gaming (if there's any, like video editing, streaming or something else)

also, at what resolution (1080p, 1440p, 4K, etc) and framerate (60fps, 144fps, etc) do you expect

>>60952967
Get 2 x 4 to make use of dual channel
And if you are going to get the 1060, get the 6 GB model.

>>60953008
1080p60 seeing as that is what his monitor can support as show in his build.

>>60953008
Not sure why it doesnt price it out there, anyways im around 1k budget for everything. This is strictly for gaming so no streaming or anything. 1080p, 60 fps is just fine for me

For overclocking, how much more than the minimum wattage do you need in a PSU?

Also, anybody know where to get cheap chassis? Ebay has a variety of form factors for ~$25 but I've heard people get used ones for like $5-$10. I don't mind if it is used, I'll just paint over it.

>>60953065
50W-100W

>>60953055
okay, do you want to make it as cost efficient as possible? or do a gmaing rig that will last you longer but might fill up your budget?

>>60953065
depends on the CPU, really but yeah, about 100W extra

Is there a recommended 1080ti vendor to go with. The Asus model is the cheapest where I live but I hear it has a really cheap build quality so I was thinking about going with MSI since it's not much more expensive but is £100 cheaper than other models.

>>60953097
cost efficient, id rather have to upgrade once i get more cash down the road

>>60953124
How the fuck is Asus strix the cheapest?
Which bizarro world do you live in?

>>60952498

Well, it's two 4-plug connectors from the psu, to an eight plug on the mobo. What do you mean by 'try a 4 plug'?

>>60953129
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/XcvQsJ
sorry man, I had to do the full build. you can downgrade a couple of things, but let me know what you think. it's missing the keyboard, mouse and screen. this build is made to last you a fair amount of years at 1080p ultra 60fps.

>>60953124
where did you hear the low build quality from?

>>60953241
would the 1050ti do okay as well? just trying to fit in the monitor and kb/m

>>60953379
I rather not touch the GPU, since is the primarily element ona gmaing machine. here's a cheper altertnative. AMD is better at the moment, since the motherboard can be upgraded once better chips come out. Intel's plataform perfroms the same at the price, at 1080p 60fps, but you don't have the upgrade potential.
I highly recommend an SSD for the OS. but you don't actually need it. the large HDD is great for all those 100+GB Steam games.

here's the cheaper alternative
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3RXqM8

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8RYYKZ
need help on my $600 build that turned into $1000 build
I know that I need something better than a 2400 ram for my Ryzen to reach peak performance so please suggest some 8x1gb RAM. (Help me make this build cheaper as long as the gpu is RX 480)

I also need suggestions for
> Sound Card
> Network/Wi-Fi Card
> Fans
> Anti-virus

>>60953450
I see, im totally new at this, thanks a lot m8. SSD for os is just to make load times faster? Also, does this come prebuilt (lol) i dont think id mess anything up building myself though, youtube is usually good for that

>>60953209
>>60953297
Fuck, sorry. I meant Gigabyte

>>60953524
You should wait until we genocide GPU miners before buying your 480. The way they crank up the prices I'm certain it'll happen soon.

>>60953524
You don't need a Sound card.
Get a WiFi dongle if you must
Get the cheap CM fans
Use free anti virus

580's available when?

>>60953567
After Vega, lightly "used".

>>60953534
yeah, SSD makes the whole system more responsive, liek searching for a file on the ssd or such. but again if you're only gaming it doesnt make that much of a difference, since the games will eb stored on the HDD anyway.

there are A TON of youtube videos on how to build a PC, and it's EZPZ

>>60953524
uh, that ain't so easy, anon.
but yeah you don't need a sound carrd, just make sure your mobo has a decent audio solution.
the wifi adapter will vary weith your available network speeds, and wireless router quality.
the fans, just get a decent brand, they usually come with some cool bundles. Malwarevytes or something is fine, common sense is the best antivirus.

>>60953559
yeah I'm hoping that it happens this year because I'm planning to build this before the end of the year. fookin cryptocucks. maybe they'll ban bitcoin and the other currencies this year

>>60951416
CDN makes me think "CanaDiaN".. but normally in online shopping Canadian dollars are portrayed as: CAD, or CA$..

>>60953605
good points anon. would you suggest pirated win 7 and free upgrade to win 10?

also, any suggestions for a good 8x1gb RAM that is above 2400? I read somewhere in this thread that the (number)x(number) contributes to the maximum speed that the ASRock B350M Pro4 can run the RAM

got an Acer predator monitor and noticed there is some lack, maybe the fps dropped. Is it my graphics card, processor or both? I currently have a GTX 970

>>60948475
'Sup guys I'd like to ask for some help on building a desktop

>Country: Mexico
>Budget: Around 15k pesos
>Usage: Making games: Current software in my toolbox include: Godot, Krita, Inkscape and GIMP
>Exiting hardware: External Storage (USB 3.0 HDD), two 21" ISP monitors.

I would like to have a solid base to start since I'm planning on doing improvements to this build as my budget allows.

>>60948545
Mine hits 63C at 3.2Ghz/0.984V
But it is currently really hot
At a normal room temperature and with dust filters that aren't full of dust it hits about 52C

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Built my new machine, but just pulled my 2.5" HDD from my laptop and plopped it in.

Everything works fine except my HDD usage sits at 100% all of the time and has really low write speeds.

>>60949425
>the same thing will apoply to threadripper
>die size is much higher
wrong, it's two dies, meaning god tier heat dissipation

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PSU just shit the bed.
>Keeps running full fan and overheating
>Lost receipt cause I'm an idiot and it's the only part I didn't buy online

Gonna buy a new PSU at my local best buy. Pic related is what they have, so what should I get? Top pic (Corsair 750) is the one that just broke so I'm skeptical but yeah. Please help. It's either Corsair 750 or Thermaltake 650w.

Running an I7 6600k and 1070

>>60954477
750

>>60954410
>Built my new machine
>HDD usage sits at 100% all of the time
Did you just build it? Did you reinstall windows? Is it updating in the background? Was the write speeds better on your laptop? Shouldn't you be able to see in task manager whats using up the HDD?

Helping my rich friend make a new PC. Money isn't really a problem but I'd prefer it to be less cause I'm a jew
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/vZhLgL
I chose i7 over Ryzen because he mainly plays games. He already has a 1080 and decent monitor, so the one in this isn't essential.
Any improvements? Please no bully

>>60954562
Just built it
No, I literally pulled the HDD and booted on the new machine.
There are several applications utilizing the HDD but at VERY low amounts. The drive is only operating at 2.8MB/S. It was just fine on my laptop yesterday.

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>>60954582
>I chose i7 over Ryzen because he mainly plays games.
Just get ryzen you little shit

>>60954582
A ryzen is cheaper. Do you even know how to jew properly? You're no good as a merchant.

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>>60954595
>No, I literally pulled the HDD and booted on the new machine.
>I literally pulled the HDD and booted on the new machine.
>I literally pulled the HDD
>and booted on the new machine.
You're a big, big, big idiot. Faggot.

>>60954595
That is cause the HDD is loaded with crap from your laptop.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4WVPTH

Hello guys I bought this PC a couple minutes ago it's a mid range budget PC with enthusiasts peripherals

>Ryzen is cheap guys! B-budget friendly! L-look, 100 bucks for the mobo + 200 bucks for the CPU!
In the meantime a G4560 + B250 combo costs you 150 bucks, which is half the price of that.

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>>60954845
The fuck you did there man

>>60954845
>i5
>Razer garbage
Anon...

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>>60954845
You bought a complete PC or parts? Send the mobo and ram back and switch it for cheaper shit. Or get a 7600k/7700k.

>>60954845
did you actually bought an i5 especially when 1500x offers 14more mb of cache on a better tdp and with LESS money?

sir are you insane?

Is R1600+GTX1080 all you need for high refresh rate 1080p gaming?

>>60955059
1600 cannot hit 144 consistently.
For your info neither can 7700k

>>60955059
Good for adaptive frame rate gaming. Games aren't good at going beyond around 100fps no matter your CPU/GPU

>>60955074
So, OPs are constantly lying? Why?

>>60955084
Cause higher FPS =/= 144 consistent

>>60955084
no single threaded game can reach 144hz

but 1600 is perfectly fine reaching 144 in most games we have tons of videos showing that on youtube..

I can get a 4790k that I've personally seen running at 4.9ghz hottest core at 75c for 200, should I go for that? I'd need a motherboard as well but l could reuse my ram, upgrading from an 8350. I almost feel like it would be better to just go with a 1600 and wait a little longer

My 760 is showing its age something fierce. Can anyone vouch for how better cards from the same generation are holding up?

>>60955390
Nvidia cards are known for aging like milk

>>60955432
I thought they were known for bursting into flames?

>>60955479
That is AyyyyMD although Woodscrews never escaped Nvidia's rep

>>60955506
I always fuck up that old rhyme. Thought it was "AMD has no drivers, Nvidia has house fires".

What are the chances of consumer Vega being 375W TDP house fires like the FE? Part of me wants to wait for Vega because of muh Freesync but I can feel it's just going to be another disappointment like Fury with non-existent stock and shitty drivers.

Is NVIDIA's Fastsync an acceptable substitute if you don't have a Gsync display?

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>>60954845
you got scammed.

>>60955366
>4790k at 4.9GHz
bullshit. if it's on air cooling it would be in top 15 overclocks of this cpu worldwide. on aio it would be top 35. source: http://hwbot.org/benchmark/cpu_frequency/rankings?hardwareTypeId=processor_3621&cores=4#start=0#interval=20#coolingType=2
also unless it was a few hours long stress test it doesn't matter what you saw.

>>60955534
this meme comes from nvidia's Fermi cards (gtx 4xx series) which used to work incredibly hot.

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I wanted to get a new Monitor and was looking into http://www.logicalincrements.com/ that was stickied to see recommendations.

In Logicalincrements it suggests an ASUS VS248H-P but I found an ASUS VX238H which has similar specifications as well as price but the VS248H-P has built-in speakers.

Is there something I'm not seeing as to why the VS248H-P is recommended over the VX238H?

ASUS VX238H -
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236305

ASUS VS248H-P -
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236153

I got my RX 470 4GB shortly before my Ryzen build for around 135 USD. I've noticed that it's probably worth at least 300 USD second hand now...
I figure that I could start mining for a quick buck with this card until I find a ridiculous deal on a 980ti or 1080, where I'd then sell my rx470 and use my HD4770 as a backup until then. How long do you think this craze will last?

>>60955906
>How long do you think this craze will last?
No idea. I mean people thought buttcoin was a meme and look where we are.

>>60954845
Fail.

Can we decapitate all piece of shit miners please?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/hntYKZ

Budget is $3000 or less
I plan on using Cintiq tablet and hoping to soon invest into a Vive for 3d rendering. also looking for high quality gaming.

I've been saving up for about three years and with the recent jump in VR, I've decided that now would be a good time. I'm largely starting from scratch and want to make the most out of it. Something that'll last so that I will not have to worry about scrapping my build in four years.

Would greatly appreciate any help in building my first PC.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZRFnBP
Thoughts on my upgrade plans? Stuff that has a price is what im going to be buying. Also thoughts on the r9 280x paired with r5 1600

>>60955744
>Logicalincrements
most of their recommendations are terrible.
both of these monitors are shit, since they have use a TN panel but are only 60hz.

Answering your question: VS248H-P has flicker-free technology, better response time and contrast ratio.

look for something with an IPS (or PLS from samsung) panel. if you have amd gpu you should also pick something with FreeSync, most of them also have 75hz screens.
examples: LG 23MP68VQ, Samsung S24E370DL

good sites to check reviews:
http://www.tftcentral.co.uk/
https://pcmonitors.info/

>>60948475
is my PC good enough to use a 50 inch 4k TV as my monitor?

8370 4.4
980ti
32g ram

I don't watch much tv anymore but if I put this thing on my desktop I might as well be gaming in VR

>>60956272
>Also thoughts on the r9 280x paired with r5 1600
Decent enough, upgrade to Vega when it arrives.
>https://pcpartpicker.com/list/ZRFnBP
The AIO is stupid but since you already have it.. at least invest into goot TIM like Noctua NH-T1 or Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut.
Also idk if the H60 is compatible as is, you may need a mounting kit, be sure to check that.
Your mobo is bad, get the Gigabyte Gaming 3 mATX version or ASRock Pro4 mATX. Both are better.

>>60956302
>most of their recommendations are terrible.
/thread
No idea what they're doing lately. They've gone from meh to fuck your everything.

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>>60956359
Actual good info. Thanks!

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>>60956272
that mobo has only 2 ram slots. I'd pick AsRock Pro4 instead.
Do NOT buy VG248QE. it was a good choice few years ago but there are many better alternatives. since you have amd gpu get Samsung C24FG70. if that's not an option then ViewSonic XG2401.

>>60956234
that psu is an absolute overkill. this won't even pull 400w.
razer peripherals suck dick. for mice i would choose logitech g403/g pro / anything from zowie.
you probably don't need a full tower case. also it seems to be not compatible with the cooler you picked.
why would you get 7700k instead of r7 1700? you'd save ton of money and get 8 cores, 16 threads cpu with better multithreaded performance. on 4k its gaming performance is on par (if not better) than overclocked 7700k and in applications it wins by a mile. and it's not a complete housefire cpu.
see: http://www.legitreviews.com/intel-core-i7-7700k-versus-amd-ryzen-1700x-14-game-cpu-showdown_192508
you could use saved money from going ryzen and spend in on a better 4k monitor with g-sync.

don't fall for the intel meme, anon

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I wanna update my CPU.

Please recommend a budget/mid-range cpu+mobo+ram combo!

>>60956558
>that psu is an absolute overkill. this won't even pull 400w.
I'm not planning on stopping here, and I figured it'd be better to spend the money now than not have enough down the line.
>razer peripherals suck dick. for mice i would choose logitech g403/g pro / anything from zowie.
I had thought Razer had fixed the double clicking issue in their death adders, is it still sub par without? I've always had issues with logitech failling three or so years after purchase.
>you probably don't need a full tower case. also it seems to be not compatible with the cooler you picked.
If the need ever arises, I'd like room to build up, potentially add on and 1080ti if the technology ever catches up and so on. Have also wanted to experiment with building my own watercooling system, but that is also far down the line. Perhaps I'm overthinking it?
>why would you get 7700k instead of r7 1700?
All I've heard IRL is how amd is not competitive with Intel in terms of CPUs. Though it looks like that was wrong.

To be fair, I picked a large portion of what I was looking through from Logicalincrements as a template. On the 4K gsynch which would be the best reccomendation?

Thanks so much for the feedback, anon.

>>60956759
Budget?

Best value is r5 1600+stock cooler+msi b350m pro-vdh + 3000mhz ram from mobo qvl

>>60948475
>R5 1600 - Best value for higher fps gaming / mixed usage; Get a 1600x if you don't OC
how true is this?

isn't the OC'd 1700 a lot better?

>>60956867
>value

>>60956822
I am thinking r5 1600 or ~i5 7500/7600 for sure.

But I don't know what should I accompany it with

>>60948475
Any cool new SFF cases? Probably gonna build my console style pc this christmas

>>60956894
the 1600 is kinda pricey anyways

>>60956766
>I'm not planning on stopping here, and I figured it'd be better to spend the money now than not have enough down the line.
future pc hardware will use less and less power, not the other way.
>All I've heard IRL is how amd is not competitive with Intel in terms of CPUs. Though it looks like that was wrong.
it was true until a few months ago when ryzen came out.

>>60956902
don't even consider i5.
ryzen 5 1600 + asrock b350 pro4 + 3000/3200mhz ram and you're set

>>60956921
>6 cores / 12 threads for ~200$
>pricey
how?

>>60956942
it's almost 50% cheaper than the 1700

>>60957056
ah, you're a burger, right?

Complete noob here
I'm building a new PC
I will be using it for gaming and rendering in 3dmax and vray
I need the following parts:
>1080p display
>RAM
>GPU (I'm seriously considering a gtc 1070 but don't know which manufacturer would be best in performance and budget)
>My cpu is an intel i7-3770 CPU at 3.40 GHz
>Might also need a power supply and a new motherboard though I'm pretty sure the one I have will suffice

>>60957635
Your CPU is the one you have at the moment? Or the one you are planning to get? If the former, why do you need a new motherboard?

What is your current PSU?
If you want a 1070, grab it fast, the jews are already buying it en mass.

Anyone used the Kraken G10/12 GPU brakets?

>>60957635
More infor on wht that CPU?
if you can get a beefier CPU, that'd be great. I personally recommend the R7 1700 which is what I have for rendering and 3D animation.

and anyways, grab the 1070 NOW. since prices will skyrocket in the coming weeks. ASUS, Zotak and Gigabyte make decent cards, EVGA had some bad reputation on some cards burning out this generation.

Anyone have experience overclocking a BenQ GL2460HM?
I didn't realize how refresh rate and framerate interacted when I bought my components and feel like I'm not getting the most out of my 1600 and 1060.

Some anon recommended I just use adaptive vsync and live with smooth 6fps, solid advice?

Can't detect Intel 600p. Confirmed NVMe drivers up to date. What do?

Why isn't his general a faggy tripcode circlejerk just like everywhere else on this website?

Want to upgrade my cpu and graphics card.

Have an fx6300 and a gtx660, what's the best bang for my buck if I currently have 350 burger dollars?

>>60958432
>Some anon recommended I just use adaptive vsync and live with smooth 6fps, solid advice?
60fps

I managed to get my corsair 3000mhz ram stable at 2933 with 1.45v. is 1.45v too much for daily use or am i safe? (ryzen btw)

>>60958598
A new GPU
A new CPU means new mobo and RAM as well.

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>everything AMD is out of stock thanks to memecoin miners
>All of the 1070s below $400 are gone
>every 6gb 1060 is pushing $280
I really hope the cryptocurrency market crashes and all these faggots lose all their money

>>60958799
You have to wonder how much real world resources actually went into making literally maths formulas for autist to trade with.

>>60948840
>Mining with nvidia cards
Are you retarded or just pretending?

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>either my GPU or my PSU is failing
>shitting my pants because there's a possibility that it's my GPU since the problems appear arbitrarily and everywhere I've gone to says that PSU problems are normally consistent
>mfw my GPU craps out at the worst moment to buy a GPU

>>60958799
I feel you. I had the possibility to get a 1060 6GB for 210 bucks but thought I'd wait it out anyway and now it's at 250 and I'm wondering whether I shouldn't go for the 3GB version at 200 now... pretty damn frustrating.

Thankfully I had managed to get a 1070 for 350 a few months ago for myself, but for that build I need to make for my sibling I'm at a loss when it comes to the GPU, there's no choice and everything is overpriced. Fucking 1050 ti aka 40FPS in all games @150+ bucks lmao.

>>60948840
>buys cards that are more expensive than AMD and worse at memecoin mining
I thought miners couldn't be any more retarded, and yet here you come and prove me wrong.

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>>60958799
>memecoin miners have so exhausted the supply of all AMD cards that now retards are buying Nvidia cards, despite them being far worse for memecoin mining

MAKE IT STOP I JUST WANTED TO BUILD A DESKTOP PC I'VE BEEN USING A LAPTOP FOR 7 YEARS

what is a good matx case?

>>60958793
>A new CPU means new mobo and RAM as well
>a new cpu needs new ram

The hell are you on about?

>>60958970
DDR4

>>60958970
all new motherboards use ddr4 ram. you have ddr3. you can still easily sell it used though.

>>60958970
DDR4. You think you can still use your DDR3 ram?

Can I pay with € in NA shops?
Yurotaxes a shit and I'm going to texas next month

>>60958719
heeeeeeeeeeeeelp i'm newbie overclocker.

>>60959022
>texas
If you want some redneck shooting you i in the face with your monopoly money, sure

Just finished rebuilding my desktop. Do these temperatures sound okay?

>GPU: EVGA GTX 1060 6gb SSC dual fan
>Max GPU temp: 76 Celsius
>Average GPU temp over 1 hour: 68 Celsius
>Average room temp: 26 Celsius

I have no AC, just open windows. Elite: Dangerous on max settings was used for testing e GPU under load.

>>60959073
Texas is full of liberals and fags now. It's basically the new California, except with more niggers.

>>60958999
>>60958994
So is there no point in upgrading to an FX8050?

What card should I get then?

>>60959089
Yeah. Those temps are fine. To be honest, I have never ever seen a card die from wear and tear due to heat. Only from heat killing the card outright.

>>60959101
1060 6GB.
Anymore and your shitty CPU is gonna bottleneck your GPU.
A 1050ti will even be fine.

>>60959123
Thanks anon, good to know. I just got a little autistic about it with the new card since one of the fans died on my old 970

In a week it will be my birthday, meaning I'll receive quite a decent amount of disposable neetbux.

I'm in no hurry, but still I want to upgrade my GTX670 with a new GPU that would be allow me to max out the new games at 1080p@60Hz now, and possibly at 4k once I upgrade the monitor (possibly) this christmas.

However
>GTX1070/80 are already one year old GPUs
>GTX1080ti is expensive beyond my reach
>I don't know what AMD offers

Should I wait for new releases? What would you suggest?

>>60959123
The only thing that's gonna wear out is the fan anyways.

>>60959132
Something is always going to bottleneck anon. If it's not the CPU bottlenecking the GPU, then it's the GPU bottlenecking the CPU.

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>>60959155
>>I don't know what AMD offers
Nothing. Literally nothing. AMD cards do not exist in the market today. They MIGHT release a Vega-based GPU for gamers in late 2018, but that's a very big "might". Your only choice with AMD is a $1900 workstation card or literally nothing else because cryptocoin miners have already exhausted the global fucking supply.

>>60959161
I agree but FX is a huge bottleneck. Especially on the newer games.

>>60959179
Anon that's fud and you know it, the Vega gamer card is coming pretty soon

>>60959192
>the Vega gamer card is coming pretty soon
So you either grab it before the reviews are out or if you wait, all the jews would have grabbed them all. With jews you lose.

Are the RAM issues for the ASRock AB350M Pro4 fixed with the new BIOS? Is Ripjaws 4x2gb 2800 good to go on it?

(Also, someone briefly explain how to update the MoBo BIOS)

>>60959268
Read your own docs.

http://www.asrock.com/MB/AMD/AB350M%20Pro4/index.asp

>>60959268
>Are the RAM issues for the ASRock AB350M Pro4 fixed with the new BIOS?
Most likely. Check forums to know more.
>briefly explain how to update the MoBo BIOS
Read the fucking manual, it explains everything.

This is neither a search engine nor your personal tech support, faggot.

>>60948475
Hello, newfag here.
Building a new pc, I know some of my shit from linustechtips youtube.
A question about which processor do I get,
Is i5 7400 good? give me your recommendations and reasons.

>>60959155
Same boat. I'm with a GTX670 looking to upgrade to a GTX1070.
What do you guys suggest?

>>60959429
Ryzen 1600 or bust

>>60959432
1070 are overpriced now as well. If you can find one at normal price, grab it. Or you can fall for the wait meme.

>>60959429
No because it has only 4 cores 4 threads making it get noticeable FPS dips in CPU intensive AAA games
Go for a 1500x instead (4 cores 8 threads) or 1600 (6 cores 12 threads)

>>60959467
>>60959446
Not that smart person here.But as far as my knowledge forums say amd processors have a bit of heating probs, I plan to just use stock cooler for the processor as I won't be ever overclocking processor in my fuckin life.

>>60959509
1600 is great with the stock cooler.

>>60959509
it's literally the opposite now. intel is the one making housefire cpus.

TL;DR for the whole thread: it's the worst time to buy a GPU since the days of the original bitcoin mining craze. The gtx 10X0 series is already a year old, the current AMD series is a rebrand and there is no competition available for nVidia on the high end. Everything AMD is sold out and everything nVidia is at least $50 over MSRP. Wait for Vega (aka 2018)

>>60959509
>amd processors have a bit of heating probs
You're referring to the FX, which are dead, Ryzen is very cool.

>>60959509
AMD just released the Ryzen lineup, which is a completely different product line, compared to past AMD processors. this ones are actually much cooler and power efficeint than the Intel's offering.

The R5 1600 comes with a very good stock cooler, and that should be good enough for a fair amoun of gmaing years.

>>60959548
And this time we can safely say, the Jews were behind it.

>>60959548
But ...so many games at end of the year.

Fuck.

>>60959548
This is the worst time to buy anything.
>GPUs expensive as fuck
>RAM expensive as fuck
>HDDs expensive as fuck
>SSDs expensive as fuck
>Motherboards expensive as fuck
>Intel is housefires
>AMD is slow RAM

It used to be that $2000 got you the top of the fucking line bleeding edge everything. Now it barely gets you mid-high range, and that's not even counting things like the monitor (which are also expensive as fuck because m-muh 4k).

Things are so bad that the new Mac is cheaper than the sum of its parts.

>>60959594
wot? you can buy an incredible system with $2000.

>>60959594
>>AMD is slow RAM
What?

>>60959570
>>60959560
>>60959543
>>60959524
Thank you guys, if you'd be kind enough to help me again, what is a decent budget motherboard for this processor.
I won't be overclocking the processor itself but I need RAID option in the motherboard with the processor.

>>60959594
It's a good time to buy gold rated PSUs. SeaSonic X series an the EVGA supernova g3 are like $20 under MSRP

>>60959622
Motherboards for AM4 aren't mature yet. Many are straight incompatible with high speed RAM. Few have gotten firmware updates to fix it.

>>60959626
Most B350 are good, avoid Asus (bad support) and Biostar (shit) and you're fine. Gigabyte, MSI, Asrock are all three pretty good. Look at their boards and see what fits your needs depending on what is on the board or not.

>>60959594
hhds are the same as ever. b350 mobos are priced fairly desu, they offer overclocking but are cheaper than z270 by a mile.
amd's ram problems are mostly solved now. not like it's a huge deal anyway.

>>60959669
I always heard that MSI were shit. What changed?

>>60959671
>HDDs are the same
Exactly. Their price hasn't changed at all since the Thailand factory floods that spiked prices.

>>60959669
Aye,Thank you fellow anons. Have a nice day.

>>60959683
It is not coming down until there is a surplus.

>>60959683
MSI is either hit or miss, read the reviews.

AsRock is mostly on point for AM4

>>60959429
>Is i5 7400 good?
Fuck no. Ryzen 5 1600/1500X is what you want. What's your budget and location anyways?

>>60959659
The majority of them have the new agesa, not few.

>>60959755
well, Asrock pro4 and lower got the AGESA update, but still the ram support isn't as expected.

I'm building a "budget" gaming PC for someone, I already order the mobo (B350), SSD, PSU and case which I got for good prices and now I need to decide on the CPU, GPU and RAM.

Comes down to :
1400 (165€) vs. 1600 (220€)
1060 3GB (200€) vs. 6GB (250€)
8GB RAM (85€) vs. 16GB (150€)
Thoughts?

>>60959816
1600
6GB
8GB ram to "save" money.

>>60959816
I say just down on RAM, since you can always add more later

>>60959855
>>60959857
I heard Ryzen had a hard time with 4 sticks of RAM, is it still true?
My mobo is the Gigabyte Gaming 3, the one with double BIOS.

>>60959891
check the board's QVL memory support list.

>>60959816
If possible go for 1600 + 1060 6G + 16GB 3000/3200, that's a great combo. Otherwise cut down on RAM or GPU depending on the usage.

>>60959891
Check your mobo. It is not Ryzen. It is the new Mobos.

>>60959946
The more I think about it the more I feel like getting the 1600 no matter what is best here as I feel like this CPU will be remembered as one of the most long-lasting CPU that was ever made, similar to Athlon X4 or i5 2500k / i7 2600k. It's only 55€ which are pretty damn worth it I think.

For the GPU 250€ for a 1060 6GB is a bit too expensive though, and for the RAM, as long as I can add 8 more down the road it should be good.

>>60959907
>>60959960
Well that one has 4 sticks... aren't they all supposed to work? Also apparently people managed to OC to 3200 on it with the latest BIOS update. I find it dumb to put 4 slots if having 4 sticks bring instabilities.

>>60960295
yeah, the 1600 does have those 2500K vibes. and will only get better and better as time goes by, since multi core optimization.

I'd keep the 1600 and the 6GB 1060. some games at 1080p are already getting bottlenecked by the lack of VRAM. there shouldn't be any problem with 4 sticks of RAM

Since GPUs are moot should I try and snag a 9** series gpu?

>>60960295
1600 will be remembered for a long time. It also comes with a good stock cooler, which is suprising. If you don't want high OC for now the cooler is perfect. Keeps the CPU cool and quiet, even under load.
About RAM and GPU.. well, what does your friend play? If it's only games that aren't demanding you should skip on the GPU and get the 1060 3G, Nvidia will gimp it within one year anyways.
RAM is a similar story. If your friend only plays games without multitasking 8GB is fine, otherwise get 16GB no questions asked. 2x8GB kits also offer better availability for high speed RAM and this will ensure Dual Channel whereas you may end up with 4x4GB with an upgrade which isn't ideal for Ryzen.

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fuck
all the good mobos are always out of stock. Anyone have any of these and would you reccom nd them with a 1600

>>60960913
Those mATX mobos are all trash, for ATX get the Gigabyte B350 Gaming 3 or X370 Gaming 5.

asrock>gigabyte

>>60961019
Gigabyte seems to be a lot bigger according to wikipedia.

>>60960707
is the cooler that good? i have a cryorig h7 but ill need to wait for the adaptor when i upgrade.

>>60961124
People have OC'd the 1600 to 3.9 on the stock cooler.

>>60961124
yeah, it's great by itself. you should hit 3.6GHz no problem with the stock cooler, at least while you wait for the bracket

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>>60948475

/g/ i used your PC Building guides, and followed the tips and recommendations for it.

So i built a ryzen 1600,Gigabyte AB350 board, Corsair 16gb ddr4 and a gtx 1060 because i couldnt find the rx580 or the rx480 in stock, so meanwhile ill be using the gtx1060.

The thing is speccy doesnt read the ryzen cpu is this normal? am i missing a driver?

Have to use Gigabyte software to read it, and says 28-30 C on idle and 40-50 C load are this good temps for a ryzen 1600?

>>60961478
>is this normal?
yes
You can monitor temps through Ryzen Master or HWInfo (the latter allows on-screen display like afterburner)
Yes, those are good temps

So I hear X370s have better onboard sound and other bells and whistles than B350s?

Is there something comparable in B350 line?

>>60961618
>So I hear X370s have better onboard sound an
Chipset has nothing to do with onboard audio

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>>60961478
>mfw people worry about their Ryzen getting to 50°C while my 7700k is peaking 76°C when gayming since Summer arrived

>>60961683
i'm ashamed to know where is this image from

>>60961691
sick fuck!

>>60961691
Why should you be? It's completely healthy.