/cyb/ + /sec/ general: cyberpunk and cybersecurity:

tfw born too early for cyb

>>60942588
I wouldn't be so sure, ask China, Japan and Theresa Mao.

Finally, I was expecting this thread. Good additions OP.

>>60942695
Thank you, though I did miss out http://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0025995.
I think it might be an important addition?

So what's up with zeronet these days? I tried it months ago but it wasn't that great.

>>60942767
>"The Network of Global Corporate Control"
Do you have a section named "shit just got real"?

>>60942789
I can add one next thread.

>>60942813
Sounds cool. Do you have a videos section? You can add these vids if you like https://pastebin.com/cc3zmJ1m

>>60942889
Yeah, I'll add it below the general cyberpunk resources.
I'm thinking for the section something like:
>>Harden your OS, reroute your DNS and fire up the VPN - shit just got real

>>60942908
Oh yes, I see what you mean. I am waiting to see what other things you find to put in there.

>>60942951
Hopefully some anons will help in filling the section.

>>60942557
why do these threads always devolve into politics? /cyb/ /sec/ always becomes trash :/

>>60943109
I think it is to do with the concept of defending oneself against prying or simply authoritarian nation states and corporations, from there they end up on economy and that then proceeds on into the devolution of discourse.

>>60943109
But then how are we going to hit thread limit :^)

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Cab we not migrate all the information to ghostbin?

>>60943176
The thing is, the new pasta had already done this.
However, people complained we'd "lost links".
So I revived the old links, ontop of the new pasta; so we wouldn't risk losing content.

>>60943192
Seems like you are putting actual effort, much appreciated.

>>60943210
Thank you, I guess so.
I think it is important for people to be as educated in /sec/ as possible and /cyb/ adds an aesthetic and philosophy behind that.

can we please have a good thread this time tia

>>60943280
>implying it wasn't good last time
>implying you won't whine if someone talks about something you don't like
>implying we care about your feelings

>>60943304
look, i just asked for a good thread, there's no need to attack me

is your life so meaningless that you have to attack people for asking for good threads?

>>60943304
>>60943544
And it begins.

woooaah cyb sec more like clit succ you lil pussies haah loom at the nerds in irc you cant fuck me

>>60943656
:^)

>>60943656
I know right? 5 posters and 1 guy here >>60943304 is already being a toxic retard

>>60942557
isn't this bit from caprica?

>>60943280
>>60943544
>>60943659
>>60943973
All you, stop trolling, we know you don't want this thread at all, you are the same troll that started every /cyb/ thread trolling

>>60944019
look, I'd like a good thread as well as other people, and you obviously aren't contributing here. you should leave, nigger

>>60944019
just because you're autistic you don't need to constantly screech you know?

>>60944299
Places of interest anon:

fuckoff.com

>>60944299
https://freesoftwarefoundation.org/prog/

>>60944532
Can you stop shitposting, retard?

>>60944299
Thank you, anon.

>>60944795
How about you stop posting links from a shithole?

>>60944818
>Implying that was me.
Sorry, who put you in charge, fuckhead?

>>60944835
So you're defending him? How does that make you less of an idiot?

>>60944835
Ignore him, he is a troll, his only goal is to be negative.

AT LEAST! Good job OP, nice post you made.

>>60944870
Thank you.

>>60944868
I will.
You can't reason with trolls.

Someone here uses chroot in their system? I wanto to get into it for some stuff but I'm very new to it. Very thanks anons.

Yesterday I met an actual elite German haxxor working in the automotive industry. Sorry we couldn't find a bar, Hans.

>>60944299
>darknetplan
>sdr
That brings some legit ideas. Pretty cool.

What do you people think of GNUnet? I think they are trying to replace IP and shit for hashes don't they?

>>60943280
>last thread
>bad

>>60943544
>there's no need to attack me

>>60943973
>toxic

>>60944019
>>60944868
>>60944895
>troll

Is this place filled with sensitive fuckwits or what? Maybe all of you should just fuck off and go suck eachother in some hugbox circlejerk.
>any other opinion that's not mine is offensive and made by trolls!1!!
^ this is you.

That screenshot from the #/g/punk irc channel should've given me a hint on how fucking retarded you all are.

posted in last thred before it ded, but i'm shooting for a dept of defense cybersecurity scholarship for a masters in information security at my university. it's a super sweet scholarship, full ride + $30k/y + a job after. the only reason i can't get a masters is because i don't have the money and i refuse to go into massive amounts of debt. wml

>>60945091
All you've done is disagree with everyone.
Which means you fit:
>any other opinion that's not mine is offensive and made by trolls!1!!
Therefore, by your own standards you are:
>fucking retarded
Well done, you're a retard by your own logic. :^)

Guys, the troll is sinking the thread in negative replies. Just look at its posts, he is a fucking attention whore.

Post more stuff than him and let him die.

>>60945339
This.

>>60943137

it's quite ironic because the cyberpunk is somewhat an antithesis of culture and politics with emphasis on the outcasts to the system machine

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GNUnet is the future https://gnunet.org/concepts

>>60945386
I think that is where the conflict arises from though, people clinging to traditional society.

>>60945387
It is certainly GNUed news.

>>60945307
Can you even read, you fucking spastic retard, I don't consider you trolls neither your opinions offensive, I just consider you all to be fucking stupid.

>>60945339
This is my second post about this, kill yourself, scum.

>>60943304
>>60943656
>>60944019
>>60944868
>>60945307
>>60945339
>>60945367
fuck off or meaningfully contribute, bitch

>>60943044
>Hopefully some anons will help in filling the section.
This anon is working on the old FAQ, it is taking some time. Sorry.

>>60943192
>However, people complained we'd "lost links".
I, for one.
>So I revived the old links, ontop of the new pasta; so we wouldn't risk losing content.
And that I appreciate.

Both cyb and sec is much about knowledge, losing knowledge then seems wrong to me.

Decentralized pastebin when?

>>60942557
>https://archive.rebeccablacktech.com/g/search/subject/cyb/
Gone. Anyone got more info?

Jinteki is still gone, is it gone forever?

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To the anon who wanted to build a /sec/ related chan, how is it going?

>>60946549
we used to have one on nntpchan long ago but i never revived it

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>>60946719

>>60946732
Do you have the code for that?

>>60946752
very yes, just not the boxes willing to submit themselves to the nntp spam firehose

made a board as a drop in replacement

http://oniichanylo2tsi4.onion/b/overchan.pastebin/

it's also an imageboard

http://oniichanylo2tsi4.onion/boards.html

there's a few other servers
idk who runs these tho

http://ev7fnjzjdbtu3miq.onion/
http://zx7ec2etdihlbfr4.onion/
http://yqfbo7ghmwzotrml.onion/

>>60946826
>.onion
How do I browse this without enter in a watchlist?

>>60946883
there is a read only mirror on clearnet, disabled posting because of spam
https://2hu-ch.org/
also accepts posts via newsreader on port 1199 plaintext, username: 2h00, password: 2h00

>>60946901
Thanks.

>>60946923
it's been around since 2013-ish but no one ever cared. decentralized all the way using nntp.

maybe there will be a spike in interest now that I am mentioning it somewhere higher traffic.

>>60946719
I actually never said I would build it, just consider it. Before getting to build it I need to do other stuff, and I sadly study and have a job, so no time until next wednesday, I'll start hosting the VPS and pass everything I'm hosting for us in my personal domain to that one.

>>60946826
Does this mean I don't have to do shit anymore, because it would be completely fine.

>>60946985
join us, actually no don't we can't ban anything even if we tried. ;~; fuck i shouldn't have posted it here.

>>60946999
I'd consider if my identity here wasn't 'exposed'.

>>60947050
a decentralized chan thing has been around for almost 5 years now, it has had ups and downs but in general literally no one cared because no one actually wants real decentralization, they want their curated moderated content.
i am absolutely not anonymous at all, honestly i REALLY want to take the network out of JUST the dark places into "the light". the problem is that clearnet is worse than tor spam wise.

>>60947075
Define spam?

>>60947126
url shorteners linking to ad ridden shitholes, paywalled crap and fbi honeypots.

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>cyb thread
>no neon signs

Punks, I...

Hopefully I'll be able to at least finish gluing down all the lights and diffusers, and finish the wiring this weekend.

Next weekend I hope to be able to start writing code for it.

>>60942786
nobody uses it seriously, and it's mostly people jerking themselves off for using zeronet or people trying to make it take off and actually seeding resources and pages. it has too much js to function correctly in my opinion

>>60947126
also there is flooding that is partially mitigated but almost never happens anymore, probably because almost no one uses the place :^D

>>60947220
Yah that shit should be abandoned desu

>>60946980
Promote your work on places like /g/, seriously. The nntpchan idea seems nice.

>>60942786
>>60947220
Ever heard of freenet?
It's a great platform and it's secure af if configured properly. You can establish your own network among trusted peers which won't be able to be accessed from the outside.

>>60947462
last time i checked promoting other imageboards is a bannable offense :>

>>60947477
Except if its the software behind :^)

>>60947476
I've heard of it but never tried it. What do you do personally on it? Best websites and forums?

>>60947582
mods find a way

>>60947584
Honestly I just transfer files among my friends because we can.
Didn't try the forums and stuff but there's even some tools for creating those.

I think the best option could be to connect to irc.rizon.net and join #/g/sec for moar /sec/ and less /cyb/

>>60947797
>#/g/sec :Cannot join channel (+S)
what am i doing wrong

>>60947797
Did you check the demographics? >>60881463
(Later on someone dropped a poo into the stats)

>>60947881
This
>(Later on someone dropped a poo into the stats)
our infamous troll

>>60947854
Read the OP.

>>60947881
then my message is intented for that 17% of sec guys.
no offense, Im fine with the merge but personally I think /cyb/ is mainly aesthetics.

Greetings

Don't answer to obvious inflammatory comment.

>>60947987
I think /cyb/ is also mainly aesthetics, although that's because I think we have already achieved ~85% of the technical factors of a cyber punk world.

I'm a literal retard whomst knows nothing about cybersecurity and only normie level intro information about computers in general. I've been looking through /g/ today and feel like an idiot. Is cyber security a good place to start in teaching myself general computer knowledge or what should I do besides that to teach myself?

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>>60948261
Have you actually read the OP?

>>60948261
>>60948308
Yes but I'm not sure if this is where Is should begin or not. I don't know if I should learn a programming language or study more general Computer Science related materials. I'm thinking it looks like programming, the more theoretical CS stuff and cybersec are three branches of study I'm going to look into but I'm not sure where the overlap is or where a good starting point is. I also don't know who to ask

>>60947477
chi you should have gotten herpface's hidden service keys for lolz and maybe nntpchan wouldnt have died

>>60948261
>>60948349
Not really no, most of the sec resources are to do with pentesting, which is a fairly 'high level' in the grand scheme of computer security and information technology in general.
Look in to taking CBT courses for a better understanding of the various OSes in general before even attempting to delve even into any Linux distro.

much software here. So how about suggestions for the hardware for a nice server that accommodates the need for sec and the aesthetics of cyb?

My Dell server is sulking in a corner and refuses all connections.

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>>60942557
I'm sick of the consumerist horse shit made for normies that ends up breaking in 6 months. The exception is ThinkPads but the battery life is abysmal and they use x86 CPUs that have the IntelME, also known as the handy dandy OS independent government backdoor. AMD also has something similar. So, I want to switch to ARM. Every ARM laptop is a piece of shit, usually a tablet with a keyboard and hinges. I guess I'll have to build my own.

I've started thinking of materials and parts. I'm a CNC machine operator for a living, so I have easy access to leftover steel plates and equipment that can crimp, cut, and punch holes in the steel. I'll probably use 1/8 inch steel plates as the frame/housing. The display will be a basic 7 inch LCD from Amazon, as long as it has an HDMI port and can be powered by micro USB. The computer itself will probably be a Raspberry Pi 3 because it's cheap and has good software support, but this could be changed easily due to the modular nature of this project. It would run Debian from a 16GB micro SD card, but for all my rare frogs I'll include a 160GB HDD that's connected with a SATA to USB adapter (I don't really care about speed). The display and computer will be powered by a 14000mAh battery pack. The keyboard would be tricky. I could get one of those Lenovo ones that have a built in trackpoint and mouse buttons, or I could get a mini keyboard for cheap that has a little touchpad built in. I'd probably have to go with the latter due to the size of the overall laptop.

Things I have:
>battery pack
>hard drive and adapter
>micro SD card
>all required cables

Things I don't have:
>Raspberry Pi
>display
>outer housing (free from scraps at work)
>keyboard

Also a daily reminder to use the legacy CAPTCHA.

>>60949236
good luck anon

>>60949236
Wouldn't it be easier and more successful to take an existing laptop, rip out the motherboard and place your own small device there attached to existing controls and output ports?

>>60949323
No, due to the tight space and lack of standardized components and connectors.

>>60949236
>could get one of those Lenovo ones that have a built in trackpoint
I think i saw / read somewhere that you could solder a usb connection to standard lenovo laptop keyboards

>>60949380
Eh, it still might be too long. I also don't like soldering stuff like that.

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>>60949236
We need to make cyberdecks a thing

I would buy the shit out of it

>>60949236
I love the concept and hope the execution will be fitting.
I also love the fact this is the definition of old school hacking, but with a modern hacking mindset.
Good luck and godspeed.

>>60946502
>This anon is working on the old FAQ, it is taking some time. Sorry.
Thank you, anon.

>Both cyb and sec is much about knowledge, losing knowledge then seems wrong to me.
My thoughts exactly.

>>60949442
What is the advantage of a cyberdeck over, say, a laptop, other than mechanical keys?

>>60949883
it looks cool, and probably would be way more modular in the way a desktop PC is, you could probably easily install desktop parts in one, such as motherboards and such

Actually someone should design one specifically for that purpose, you could probably base it on Micro or Mini ATX. Then just fill in your PC components, get a battery pack instead of a PSU and go from there

>>60949883
>Aesthetic

>>60946826
>https://www.ev7fnjzjdbtu3miq.onion.to/b/overchan.hackers

Jesus Christ who let all the pajeets in?

>>60950310
>onion.to
pleb

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>>60949236
Looks really cool. I'd love to do something similar but I don't have access to the tools I'd need for it.

I've heard people say that network adapters can have (or did have in the past) similar backdoors to Intel ME, is there any truth to that today?

>>60950586
You could always use polymer plates for the casing. A standard $25 power drill would be more than enough to put mounting holes in it to secure stuff to it. I might do that instead of steel so that it's more portable.

Buy adapters that have free and open source firmware available. If you're talking about an external adapter, most are made in China and any bundled malware would probably be targeting Windows. So as long as you run GNU/Linux the obscurity should provide some cover. The danger of the ME is that it's a closed source black box that you can't disable. My main issue with the ME is that it simply has too much power, as in total control over everything. It also contains one time hardware fuses that can be used for stricter signature verification (preventing a custom BIOS from being used), trusted hardware modules that could hold other nasty surprises, and also control over stock BIOS updates. You're really at the mercy of the board vendor in that regard. The ME is basically a little CPU in your CPU. It can control power to the individual cores, access the TCP/IP stack (bypassing the OS firewall), access all memory including RAM, and even act as a keylogger which means it has the potential to undermine your encryption. The ME also has a firmware frontend called AMT. Recently a flaw was discovered, or rather an abuse of what it's intended for. A virtual or physical serial connection through AMT can allow an attacker to pass data around a LAN without the computers even knowing, since this is all operating below BIOS level. If you physically remove the ME or its firmware, your computer will fail to boot or it'll shut off every 30 minutes. I truly fucking hate the Intel ME.

>>60950434
>tfw I'm too lazy to go to my other computer, and boot up Tails in a vm

>>60949442
I FUCKING WANT THIS SHIT!

>>60948885
I'm also looking into getting into running a homeserver. I have some expierence running services for myself off a VPS, but I'm nit very good at networking, which is kinda why I want to dive into this.
I don't have any spare computers I can use as a server so I'm thinking of just picking up something cheap off ebay. I'm not sure whether to go with hardware designed to be a server or just a regular PC. I want to use it to as a NAS, and a VPN entry so nothing is exposed to the Internet (I'm the only one accessing the stuff on it anyway) but like I said, I'm not very familiar with networking.

>>60950310
>I want someone to hack facebook for me. I pay with cows.
I don't think this one is a pajeet, lol. That board looks filled with shitposters.

How do I secure my pirated windows 10 from jewish bitcoin miners?

>>60951222
You stop using Winshit 10 and install a GNU or BSD distribution.

>>60951436
This is the only correct answer

>>60948675
>Penetrating
>High level
Lmao please running tools from Kali that other people wrote isn't hard
Vuln research is the only true security field

>>60944781
NO

>>60952111
Nobody is saying it's difficult, but the idea of pentesting and actually understanding what you're doing whether that be the vuln you're exploiting, networking, or even something as simple as connecting over ssh to remotely execute commands isn't something the average computer user with no knowledge of CS can understand. They all require at least some understanding of core theory and has many layers of abstraction which is why it's called "high level". It isn't related to difficulty. Concurrency is a "low level" topic that is immensely difficult, but fairly straight forward to explain because it doesn't require much abstract computing knowledge to understand.

>>60952111
If you think that is all pentesting is, then you really are a sad piece of garbage.
To be a pentester worth his salt, you need to know:
>CBT for at least Linux (pick a good distro) and Windows (as this will mostly be your target, apart from Linux servers).
>Networking: DHCP, IPv4, IPv6, subnetting, et al.
>A deeper knowledge of Linux.
>Sniffing: Wireshark, tcpdump, et al.
>Virtualisation
>General security: PKI, SSL, IDS, etc.
>Wireless and its protections and encryptions
>Scripting (this is what stops you being a script kiddie, which is what you think a pentester is, because you're a retard)
>Database and SQL
>Web Applications
>Forensics
>Advanced knowledge of TCP/IP
>Cryptography
>Reverse engineering
>Programming to a lesser extent
So no, you prick, it isn't just running pre-built tools on Kali.
Because it is a professional field and not just what teenage script kiddies call themselves.

>>60952167
>Nobody is saying it's difficult
It is when you're doing it professionally.
Don't speak with an air of authority when you don't even understand the topic.

More like lainchan shill thread general.

>>60952216
Sorry you're upset that nobody wanted to hire you to do real security work
Running tools other people wrote is the definition of skid :)
Maybe one day you'll find your first 0day

>>60952262
>Scripting (this is what stops you being a script kiddie, which is what you think a pentester is, because you're a retard)
But nice attempt at a strawman.
You're lucky you aren't a strawman, otherwise my reply would've burnt you up.
Next time you step, bring the fire.

>>60952282
Writing a script to automate a tool someone else wrote is still being a skid, champ
Keep telling yourself that running a pineapple makes you a security professional

>>60952315
>Programming to a lesser extent
You keep setting them up, these strawmen, but I keep knocking them down.
Seriously, would you like some lotion for that burn? Or shall I take you to the burn ward?

>>60952339
You seem really upset that I called you out on being a skid. Don't worry, there's a billion retards like you at defcon, you'll fit right in with your utilikilt & hackrf
Once you reverse your first bin you're allowed to post in this thread again

>>60952367
Whatever, you don't know me.
You don't know what I've been through.
You don't know what I've seen.
And you certainly don't know who I am.
Or what I'm capable of.
I know I'm l33t and don't need that affirmation from some 4chin dork.
Though clearly, you need affirmation of your shitty self that you derive from attempting to cyberbully people on a Korean beekeeping forum.
Well guess what, fuckboy?
I, nor anyone else, cares about you and your life.
If you were to end yourself, no one would care.
Let alone the universe.
The only person who would care?
Your bruised ego.

>>60952430
It's okay bud, i'm sure your classmates will think you're a real cool hax0r for installing kali linux and running aircrack
maybe one day you'll be able to get an ida license and find 0day like the big boys :)

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>>60952468
Oh whoa, nice try, calling me a child.
Gosh, you're a funny guy.
Go on then, 'big boy', post your certification and pay cheque with a timestamp.
Then I will.
Now, I get to enjoy watching you back away, skulking, with your prissy little tail between your legs.

>>60952517
>certification
just outed yourself as to being a skid lmfao
nobody worth anything in the industry gets certs
and like i said
i dont do skid pentesting shit
i do vuln research

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>>60952542
Hahaha! Just like I fucking predicted.
The 'big boy' is really a LARPing faggot.
Now I really don't need to give even an iota of fucks or credence to the screed you call a 'come back'.
Buddy, I got more cum back off of your mother's tonsils.

>>60952573
come back when you figure out how to send your first IRP

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>>60952593
Whoa, grasping at straws.
>C-c-come b-back...
Awh, did baby 'big boy' piss his pants?
Fuck off, manchild.
You couldn't even post a pay cheque you pathetic fuck.

>>60952624
too bad you can't run kali on me huh?

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>>60952648
I don't need Kali for a pussio like you.
I just gave you one hell of a rhetorical kicking in.
Now pick up your teeth and back the fuck up, just like the sewer that is your life.

Anyway, I'm off to bed.
Goodnight, baby 'big boy'.
Send your mumma daddy's love. ;)

>>60952683
I'd bring up actually advanced topics, but you've proven you don't even know what an IRP is
Don't worry bud those Cisco certs you paid 5k for prove that you're a real professional hacker now

>>60944781
That's ok, but what's really interesting is the VIPPER archive.

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>>60952747
>mention IRP
>he ignores it
>you've proven you don't know what an IRP is
pic related

>>60950779
Think plexiglass would do the trick? Also would a laptop keyboard have proprietary connectors or would it work fine with the pi?

And what kind of screen would be good? I didn't see any screens of the right size that were cheap. I'm looking more in the range of 12 inches.

>>60952747
hi. im getting certs. is that bad?

watch dogs 2 is actually a pretty cool game.

>>60955010
Is it though?

>>60952315
>Writing a script is still being a skid

lul faggot you dont even know what a fucking skid is

>>60952542
>nobody worth anything in the industry gets certs
>implying lockheed doesnt require CISSP
>implying boeing doesnt require CISSP
>implying booz allen doesnt require CISSP
>implying you work for anyone of value if its not alphabet agencies, which it isnt

>>60955955
I am enjouing it a fucktonne more than i did the first one. asscreed mixed with gta v and mr robot

whats not to love?

>>60956066
to follow up with incase mr hackerman lists some other companies:

>leidos do not do defence sec
>unisys do not do defence sec
>NEC do not do defence sec
>fujitsu require CISSP

Come on then brah. What magical company do you work for you dont need certs at eh?

>>60956076
I liked the angst of Aiden.

>these two teenage pajeets arguing over who's the real Hackerman

Genuinely enjoying this informative discussion tbqh

I've never used IRC before, trying to connect to the one in the OP using YAAIC

It says I don't have enough parameters, but everything is filled in. What am I missing?

>>60956334
Host, port, nick, channel(s).

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>>60942603
>Theresa Mao

>>60942557
how concerned should i be about the cia spying on me? i do have some safety procedures but i feel that it may be overkill and pointless since they already have ways around most security. I just buy personal amounts of drugs and work on video projects for work, sometimes coding but nothing invasive

>>60956567
Considering that you just admitted to buying illegal substances on a post linked to your ip address it seems a bit too late to be worried about CIA niggers spying on you. If you don't want to attract attention it would be best if you stopped doing that.

>>60956619
i never said the drugs i am buying are illegal, you did

>>60956411
Aaah it was channels.

Cheers!

>>60952315
>Security professionals reinvent the wheel everytime they need to use one

Ok budi

>>60949236
I am all for a heavy duty design but there is a lot to be said for shock dampers and absorbers. I used to work for a company delivering embedded systems for ships and if you want things to last you really need this.

HDD is cheap but demands a fair bit of power, especially when spilling up the platters. I would suggest a dual SSD/HDD system where writeback to HDD is delayed. Partition your file system to optimise storage performance.

>>60949323
Trouble with laptops is that they are optimised for size and weight but not for reliability or upgradeability.

>>60956090
>>60956066
>>60956029
Whole lot of it skids in the thread now
The only thing even almost a certificate you need for a green badge are your tickets
But then again not a single one of you does VR or has stepped foot on a customers site

>>60942557
How do i get into infosec?

>>60953571
>Think plexiglass would do the trick?
Yeah, probably.
>Also would a laptop keyboard have proprietary connectors or would it work fine with the pi?
Most have special connectors, some don't. Depends on the keyboard.
>And what kind of screen would be good? I didn't see any screens of the right size that were cheap. I'm looking more in the range of 12 inches.
The larger screens will be more expensive. I'd go with a basic 7 inch.

>https://www.amazon.com/GeeekPi-Screen-Display-Monitor-Raspberry/dp/B01L6YXZLY/ref=sr_1_11?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1497788313&sr=1-11&keywords=lcd+display&refinements=p_n_size_browse-bin%3A2633094011

You might be able to use Apple iPad screens for it too, but I'm not sure what kinds of connectors they have. You'll for sure need an adapter board.

>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vCWGMM00ZEk

>https://hackaday.com/2014/03/12/an-open-source-ipad-display-adapter/

>>60957046
0day only gets sold once (generally, unless you're just a vendor and don't fulfill contracts, then you might license it) so yes, they do
Every 0day requires something different to weaponize, meaning you can't just copy paste your scripts

>>60957626
4kev is SLOOOOOOOOW

Once GNUnet supports an imageboard like the devs promised I'll go there, in the meantime I'll stay here

How do you use tor on the go on android? Is Orbot + Orweb sufficient? Any tips?

>>60957426
>I'm unqualified, listen to me!

>>60957553
>Implying they all get patched.

>>60947205
Pardon me in my ignorance, anon. But that are no real-real neons, right? I'm asking because looks nice in terms of electric paybills and making costs.

Does anyone here know what the fuck I can do to have a decent CPU (post 2009/2012) and not be spied on? How do I disable IME/AMD secure processor?

>>60957957
AMD FX-8350 (2012) or Opteron? Other than that you're kinda out of luck when it comes to decent CPU post 2009 without ME or PSP
https://libreboot.org/faq.html#whatcaniuse

>>60949883
>cyberdeck
A proper cyberdeck provides neuroelectric interface to the cyberspace. The technology just isn't there and what we have in terms of neuroelectric interfaces are comparatively speaking on a stone age level.

>>60955010
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bcygVk848E

I was the one who posted it a couple of months ago. This scene felt pretty /cyb/.

>>60957626
Because the first thing that welcomes you, is a dox on the owner. Not a very /cyb/sec/ of the owner.

>>60957817
>Implying they all get patched
You seriously have no idea about any of these things lmao

>>60942557
>from the cybersecurity essentials pasta
>* encrypt your hard drive (full disk encryption, or FDE for short).
standard LVM encryption is the best option and should be available when installing your linux distro.

for a disk that is not part of your operating system, a portable drive for example, dmcrypt/LUKS is the best option but veracrypt is
available on all platforms. keep in mind your installer may or may not encrypt your GRUB and there are several ways of dealing with
that issue which are discussed in the Paranoid #! security guide linked in the introductory resources below. keep in mind disk
encryption means nothing to an experienced attacker with physical access if you have not completely shut down your computer and
wiped the RAM.


>standard LVM encryption
>encrypt your GRUB

What am I missing? Does this LVM encryption not use LUKS at all? Also how do you even encrypt your GRUB? And where is that Paranoid #! security guide they talk about? Holy shit, since I installed my gentoo 3 years ago I've been so away from this that now I sound like a noob.

>>60958599
There are some that literally cannot be patched as it would fuck up the system.
This is why there are TOOLS for long known exploits that aren't patchable.

>>60956203
this

why are /cyb//sec/ threads always so shit

>>60958817
go back to setting up firewalls you're a fucking retard
unless it's a flaw with actual hardware i.e. atom tables, you can patch it
or are you talking about gay shit like how aircrack works? because literally nobody cares about that, i'm talking about getting remote code exec and local priv escs

>>60958723
>standard LVM encryption is the best option and should be available when installing your linux distro.

This is what bothers me the most about linux and FDE: It only really works well when you do it during OS install, trying to do it afterwards is a freaking mess and no one recommends doing it.

> that issue which are discussed in the Paranoid #! security guide linked in the introductory resources below. keep in mind disk
>What am I missing? Does this LVM encryption not use LUKS at all? Also how do you even encrypt your GRUB? And where is that Paranoid #! security guide they talk about? Holy shit, since I installed my gentoo 3 years ago I've been so away from this that now I sound like a noob.

Author deleted it, available via archive org. Should probably be in the OP with this link: https://web.archive.org/web/20170114115133/https://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=24722

It's an undeniable fact that VR is /the/ hardest field in security. Anything else is just child's play, for people who don't truly understand what they're doing.
Blue team in general is just retards who set up IPTables rules & logging, pathetic, takes no skill, i'm guessing this is what the majority of you are, kids with worthless certs
Pen testing is just taking burned 0day that the VR people wrote and using the metasploit module for it
Engineering is more respectable than everything other than VR, writing tools like Falcon, or writing the exploitation frameworks around the 0day to weaponize it
Prove me wrong

>>60959443
Can't, but you forgot about reverse-engineering.

>>60959465
REing goes hand in hand with VR, i should have pointed out malware analysis though, you're right, it's still respectable

0daying is too hard, I'm cosindering going to web bounties.

>>60959529
web is kind of memey, you can make money doing bounties if you're good though
if you're interested in that side, most browser bugs are UAFs based on javascript objects
i'd say learn about the javascript engine of your favorite browser, and fuzz those, it's def harder now than it was 10 years ago, but they still exist
tavis has written some good shit about it

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>>60959443

Working through the Bandit wargames on OverTheWire.

Stuck on Bandit20, the

suconnect

binary keeps giving me

ERROR: Can't connect

no matter what, even if I have a port listening on another session.

What am I missing here?

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While we're on the topic, do people in security usually start on Blue Team and move to Red Team, or how does that work?

Red Team work sounds more interesting, but I don't quite get how you progress to doing it

Using Protonmail is recommended?

>>60959837
if you're talking about Intel vs AMD then it's useless and you should use ARM, although it's still shit for actual computing, so yes, AMD is still technically better when it comes to privacy and security because it supports FLOSS better than Intel, but not by much and it still has the AMD Secure Processor thing which spies on you regardless of what you do

>>60959861
yes

>>60959887
lmfao
>>60959837
some people go blue to pentesting to red, it depends really on what your skill set is, people don't really do 'red team generalists', they're going to be very specific roles on the team, be that doing web testing, vuln research, malware engineering, network traversal, whatever
so more or less figure out what you're good at and what you like doing, and apply for that specific role on a red team
blue team is pretty far away from red team, offensive is a completely different world

I think >>60959887 meant to respond to >>60957957

>>60959338
OP here, that's an excellent link and I'll be adding it to the pasta.
Though I'll have to include a caveat that some of it is outdated.

Any good software that does packet radio?

>>60960149
Is there any obvious pay difference between the two (for example like there is in buyside vs sellside in finance) or does it just depend on the role?

>>60960815
it depends on the role, but most red team people i've met make like 140-180

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Who /IPFS/ here?

Thoughts?

Cool things you have found?

>>60960825
That's pretty decent pay.

>>60961082
I don't know, I see too many decentralized maymay internet these days, how different is it from any p2p software already available?

>>60959338
thanks m8

>>60961201
It's not bad, that's also pretty senior though, like 5-10 years professional experience
advertising & finance is still way more money

>>60961347
I think you can make more in consulting though, right?

>>60961463
yeah, you can, you're most likely going to be working for someone else's consulting company though
after a few years you could probably do your own contracts, they're usually 5-10k for a quick remote test, i think anyone who needs to be pci compliant has to hire a test every year, it's just hard getting started and finding contracts

>>60945089
>What do you people think of GNUnet?
GNUnet, just like HURD, is an idea that generates a lot of text and close to zero code.

Summary: don't hold your breath.

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>>60942588

> government banning crypto -- pushing cypherpunks underground
> governments handing over all control over internet to corporate interests
> global warming making of a dystopian future
> normies living in the 'cloud', eventually the only HW they'll have are gonna be dumb terminals
> normies living in one of three walled gardens
> computeres in your pocket, wearable computing, VR (kinda sorta), AI becoming more prevalent

Sure about that?

>>60961713
>not wanting to have a terminal, being able to access resources of the underground cyberworld on a whim
>not having a terminal before normies even get to hear about them

>>60961713
Dystopian Future..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZfg1Gtcg08

>>60962312
>So, what truly is a dystopia?
Right here, right now. Being anesthetized and in denial of our reality only aggravates our condition as society.

>>60961713
>>60961764
>>60962026
Here's a thought though:
Bring someone back from the past and our present may be a dystopia to them.
So, what truly is a dystopia?

>>60962351
That's true.
But what I'm saying is, when is a dystopia a dystopia, or has there always been one?

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>>60962373
To be honest, you can call art to shit in a canvas, and it will be art for some, but what lies beneath is still shit.

According to numerous authors of science fiction from the past, and even in the present, we are living in their nightmares. For me, disagreeing about this being a dystopia is another symptom. Because just like newspeak, it all seems mass brainwash, even if you say society itself did it to itself (which I disagree).

>>60961764
>terminal

what do you mean by this?

>>60962373

Dystopia as antithesis to utopia, the present can easily be utopian for someone from the past; rather, alienation, then adaptation.

Dystopia to my understanding defined with an element dehumanized or rather souls extracted to be objectified, possibly digitalized to be considered as statistic, when progress outgrows the pace of culture to be deorganized and unrooted at a loss of trace and purpose. At any current no man is an island as the origin of an environment or species for that matter can be drawn to the source, while dystopia is an island of nothingness without end or beginning which comprises you and absorbs you as a form within an abyss.

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>>60962373
I suppose that it's moreso a collection of attributes about a society, rather than a single specific societal package.

Sort of similar to trying to identify if a small, insular religion is a cult or not: there are definitely "cult-like" practices that can be identified, but different cults can appear in very different forms, and some religions may share some attributes with cults, while being difficult to classify as such.

Rather than tying to "avoid the creation of a dystopia", it should be to combat dystopian practices and elements within society.

>>60962544
This is an example of diverting attention from tangible concepts to abstract bullshit.

Denying the reality by taking a small sample from society, claiming "is all good".

>>60962464
In reply to the image:
>Americanised echochamber equates worldwide dystopia.
That in itself is an Americanised echochamber.

>According to numerous authors of science fiction from the past, and even in the present, we are living in their nightmares.
I certainly agree with that statement and if we aren't there yet (for some authors) we will be soon.

>For me, disagreeing about this being a dystopia is another symptom.
Who said I was in disagreement?
I was simply exploring the concept of dystopia and when the term becomes applicable or not.
Though I agree again, many of the public dislike thinking of our current global society as authoritarian or dystopian.

>Because just like newspeak, it all seems mass brainwash, even if you say society itself did it to itself (which I disagree).
The layperson did not bring about the dystopia directly, more indirectly via falling for military-industrial-globalist complex propaganda and consumerist culture.

>>60962529
In the old days, computers were a big workhorses, with many users accessing them through terminals. Terminal is basically a terminal endpoint, that allows user to access the main thing, usually a mainframe, or similar device, where the actual computing takes place.
You can read this interview with Rob Pike, as he explained his vision for computing really were there: https://usesthis.com/interviews/rob.pike/

>>60962590

A dystopia is by definition ubiquituous and not a denial because the consciousness of reality isn't present, moreover quantifying samples within a society is contradictory because a dystopia comprises a faceless mass without any qualitative nature.

I'm not sure a concept can be tangible as you say but a dystopia can be as you say, one gigantic abstraction, whether you pay or divert attention.

>>60962619
Picture was an example of compartmentalized reality, "echochamber" is a related concept.

Didn't directly meant you were in disagreement, sure I may have implied to, sorry.

>>60962689
My issue with that standpoint is convolution. I would rather err on the side of Occam's razor and say something nearer to >>60962564 would be a preferable mindset.

>>60962713
>Picture was an example of compartmentalized reality, "echochamber" is a related concept.
Understood, I was being pedantic anyway.

>Didn't directly meant you were in disagreement, sure I may have implied to, sorry.
Apology accepted. I apologise if I had misunderstood your intent.

if i start at 26 is it too late for me?

>>60962810
no, go do some over the wire stuff right now

>>60962373
If dystopia replies to "the world shouldn't evolve like this" I think you're right.

If dystopia replies to some kind of. . .I don't know "paralel" branch? Like the previous case but not bad at all, I think you should specify which one to know if they will or not.

Sorry for my bad english.

>>60962644
Rob Pike is a retard, confirmed.
>I don't want any local storage.
What?

>>60962834
I just think we should refrain from developing a an authoritative totalitarian society.
The freedom to err, I believe, is part of the reason for such vast scientific, mathematical and technological progress (on top of humanitarian progress and the social sciences, of course).

>>60962826
wats
>over the wire

>>60962917
Online you spastic.

>>60962935
wats
>spastic
what did you mean by go do some stuff?
elaborate

>>60962960
With the degree of intuition and nonlinear thought you possess (very little), I'll doubt you'll make it very far anyway.

>>60962904
Okay then. So, lets say (to simplify and to avoid "aye but if") that

>dystopia

In this conversation will reply to an state opressed by their gov. /cyb/ means this is applied through tech and companies, but lets not enter now in that, imo.

So, back on question:
>Bring someone back from the past and our present may be a dystopia to them.
>So, what truly is a dystopia?

Well, you made me think on a show called "Boardwalk empire" (I know, I shouldn't take reference form media, less from shows/movies). In it, the FBI uses ways that today will be wrong or very hided because they know is not legal/good, yet there, the people just accept it. So you can say in that kind of matters, that is relevant where are you extracting that person who you're bringing to our times.

Sorry again from my bad english, is only the start of the reasoning, but I would like to know what you guys are thinking.

>>60962783
>>60962564 is communitarian humanism, not dystopianism.

Not sure the creation of a dystopia can be avoided because one wouldn't control it, rather be subjected to it (the machine). Reaffirmation of a stronger identity and individuality in the face of adversity.

Relevant quote from OPs first link:

"Cyberpunk literature, in general, deals with marginalized people in technologically advanced hierarchical societies. In cyberpunk milieux, there are usually powerful elites, be they oppressive governments, paternalistic multinational corporations or fundamentalist religions, who dominate the lives of the mass population. These regimes are aided and distorted by artificial intelligence, electronic media and information technology, resulting in an unusually subdued and compliant citizenry. Often this technological reliance extends to the very bodies of citizens themselves, via brain implants, prosthetic limbs, cloned or genetically engineered organs, etc. In this way human beings literally become part of ‘The Machine’. This is the 'cyber' aspect of cyberpunk.

However, as in any society, there are those either unable or unwilling to conform to cultural norms. Living out on the edge at the margins of an alienating system, are the criminals, outcasts, visionaries, dissenters and misfits. Cyberpunk literature focuses on these people, and often on how they turn the system's technological tools to their own ends. This is the 'punk' aspect of cyberpunk.

The best cyberpunk works are distinguished from earlier works with similar themes, by a certain style. The setting is urban, the mood is dark and pessimistic. Concepts are thrown at the reader without explanation, much as new developments are thrown at us in our everyday lives. There is often a sense of moral ambiguity; simply fighting the system, whether to topple it or merely for survival, does not mark the protagonists as heroes or worthy in the traditional sense."

>>60962980
I understood you, don't worry.

The thing is, whilst corruption existed back in the time of the Prohibition era, it exists now too and in some ways with greater powers.
Sure, they might not be as able as easily as they used to, to be able to have someone assassinated (though I'd honestly argue they can and are able to cover it up).
That is dependant on whether you're basing it upon the viewpoint of an historical figure who grew up in a certain time, location, class, et cetera.
I could equally argue that to an Azteca, this world would truly seem a dystopian hell.
Whereas to a future Mexican, may seem like a freer society.

>>60963082
I'm glad I could explaint it right.

So, what I meant, was more related to the ways that to the capabilities, since with nowadays capabilities they don't "need" to terminate anyone since they can track and arrest you (in a normie way of living) and incarcelate you.

Sorry if I sound confusing. Anyway, I mean, keeping it up with the Prohib time, maybe the person itself won't feel that opressed since he won't know everything that's behind the net or in it, he only will see less police movement, for example (it changes from countries standard). I can't really really keep going by myself since I don't want to keep the "if"s around, but I think you get the idea.

>>60962917
http://overthewire.org/wargames/bandit/
this thing

>>60963181
I always wanted to try this games, but I don't feel comfy about login in some pages ssh.

>>60963050
Worse yet, on the path of convolution:
What if what is your dystopia, is to a contemporary, their idea of a utopia?

>>60945013

so the "actual elite German haxxor" was between 70 and 90 years old?

because the only guys who are named Hans are this old

>>60963082
>>60963132

Take a mexican and send him in the Azteca empire, how is that not a dystopian hell? You may seem to disregard the notion of dystopia not through perception of one oppressed by another, instead of an environment because the freer society cannot be defined universally as long as free individuals may choose hell and bring you in it, so then your freedom transgressed by the freedom of another?

Ethically speaking you may find ambiguity in determining a sense of morality juxtaposed with a double standard of presumable corruption in your example of the Prohibition era or theoretical "powers that be" because oppression can also take a form of justice.

>>60963241
I believe Hans is his hacker nom de guerre, because of his legendary typing speed.

>>60963219
Just get a Tails VM set up and you'll be fine.

>>60963219
???????????
what do you think connecting to a random ssh server is going to do

>>60963333
>He isn't a paranoid mess.
How youth can be so blind.

>>60963352
or i understand how computers work

>>60963333
I don't know. By my bare knowledge, if I connect to a SSH they will be able to know my shit, right?

>>60963330
I though on that, but feels a lot of effort for it. Also >>60914595 not sure if true.

>>60963356
>Giving feds your IP by letting them know that you specifically connected to this server
Righty.

>>60963317
You mean I'm taking dystopia in a wrong or in a not suitable way for the conversation?

>>60963365
Yeah, even as much as searching for it or tor will get you put on the watch list though, so it's too late to bother.

>>60963365
they will know your IP, which is no different than you having already loaded their web page
>>60963369
feds already 'have your ip' stop fear mongering

>>60963394
But they didn't know that you were playing "hacking" wargames.

>>60963394
>they will know your IP, which is no different than you having already loaded their web page
If this would be the case I won't mind trying the games. Seems like the kind of practice I need to learn.

>>60963388
>Yeah, even as much as searching for it or tor will get you put on the watch list though, so it's too late to bother.
Is this really true? I tried to run a tor relay as practice when I was younger.

>>60963415
It's true from what I've heard.
And let's be honest, it really is the kind of thing they would do.

>>60963407
because playing CTFs is illegal, right?
you know who made TOR, right? And who owns ALL the exit nodes?

>>60963415
>>60963442
D-don't l-listen to them... t-tell us more a-about your h-hacker plans...

>>60963462
>Agent Johnson
Gotcha! You won't fool me, Trained monkey form [your favourite goverment security agency]

>>60963451
It certainly would make you an object of interest, wouldn't it?
I'm sure you won't have any problems with it while playing, assuming of course that it's the only conspicuous thing you do.

>>60963485
They literally do not care, they aren't going to burn exploits worth more than most people make in 5 years to spy on some kid learning to play CTFs

>>60963516
Well, my primal concern was the page itself, not [X] watchlisting me. The watchlist came after using Tails to play the games.

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>>60962904
Looks like Pike's 2smart4u
He takes his reasoning to the extreme, where he isn't tied to his local machine, which might be stolen, out of sync with his other machines, and so on. The point isn't to have a system that is useless offline, but one that is not tied to the hardware.
To make a phone call, you only need to know the number. You can use any phone.
He want that to apply also to computers. You have your riced out system, your collection of FLAC music, your very personal special snowflake system setup. Now imagine you can access it from any computer, that is part of the network your system operates on.
How you interpret the cache, local storage, and the network, is also up to you. His idea is very technologically advanced, where there's no possibility that your terminal might not be able to reach the network.
But that's his way. I would rather have the local storage, that works primarily as cache, and not only for files, but for the whole state of the system, maybe selective in what you need on the given device. Whenever you get offline, it still works, once it again connects to the network, it synchronizes local changes to the network. And once the device is lost (hardware failure, stolen, etc.), you simply turn on another computer, and everything is there, working without any interruption, in worst case only losing minimal set of changes not synchronized from the terminal that got lost.
And your stuff doesn't have to operate on evil corporate owned infrastructure, like AWS or GCE. You can have your own servers, you can have your workstations that form a network. The execution is up to you.

>>60963724
No, no, I understood that.
The reasons I don't like it?
>Network is probably corporate or governmentally owned and they'd have backdoors.
>I do not have physical access to my data and must rely on a company.
>Rely purely on cryptography to keep data safe.
>Cloud storage, thus far, has proven to be unsafe.
Whist it would be highly convenient, it would, as for now, we highly insecure compared to an air gapped network (of which I have access).
I'd rather have an air gapped network, upon which to store my data and a terminal for access the 'public' network.
Then using a physical medium to carry the data across the air gap.

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>>60963805
Corpo/gov can't do shit, if you play your game well. Technology is your friend. Network can also be not owned by anyone. You seem to have a limited understanding to what a network is.
That's up to you. Today you don't make your own hardware, so you also rely on third party. You can have your own machines, connected through the links you know well.
You have to believe in crypto, anon. Follow the OpenBSD way. Join the crypto anarchy. https://activism.net/cypherpunk/crypto-anarchy.html
Also cloud is a joke, compared to how far can we reach today.
The insecurity comes from lack of understanding. Air cannot gap you securely. Check out how air gapped machines are being infected today. Iranian nuclear facility computers, computer speakers. These are just few of the things. You can run exploits on the boards that control HDDs, NSA already has code for them, for all major manufacturers. You can even reprogram microSD cards. If you think you can be safe without understanding the potential infection vectors, you are so wrong.

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>>60963050
I'm not so sure that it couldn't be avoided. On a baseline level, how would a dystopia be created?

Surely it would have to be the summation of many individual practices being enacted, in the direction of totalitarianism/authoritarianism. You don't just go from a functional democracy (assuming this is the case today, which I think it is to some degree) to an unaccountable mass of self-propagating, all-controlling governance. With the level of control we have as individuals, we can resist the encroachment of power in many ways. I've been thinking that if there is a bigger push for open source standards to be adopted, government encroachment by the creation of backdoors wouldn't be such an issue, it's merely the promotion of such standards that would be the issue. Maybe issues like the vulnerability found in Intel ME could be used to garner enough public attention to enact change. Tech doesn't need to create cyb.
sorry 4 late reply

>>60949236
Everyone's favourite builder made a custom laptop thing a while back.
Well, I think "custom" is more correct, I think it might have been a kit.

2 actually.
Novena laptop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WaOP1orfeqI
PiTop
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PhCDHltoXDg

Even if only kits, they go in-depth on how they went around designing the casing and such.
CNC included.

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>>60957847

No, it's a 3D printed sign with LED backers made to look like a neon sign. I cannot find a transformer for residential use that I can make into a bombarding transformer to make an adequate neon sign.

>>60964146
Nice link, thank you.

>I don't know. By my bare knowledge, if I connect to a SSH they will be able to know my shit, right?

No. Go read something. Do you also believe that small people live inside television?

>>60964290
Well, you've done a perfect job already, anon.

>>60964651

I appreciate the love anon. It's not done yet but it's pretty damn close.

>>60964887
If you ask me, I prefer this feeling with the LEDS. As I told you, the bills are expensive on neons 24/7, and you got almos the same feeling with LEDS.

>>60964603
T-they don't?

>>60964603
Well, I though if I'm connected to them they can do the same to me when I'm connected. That's why I said "my bare knowledge". I like this kind of things a lot but I always think I know a little only.

>>60965920
cyberpunk vibes af

what are some things I can build or buy that I can have fun with involving /sec/, like a rubber ducky or something similar.

>>60966405
an IDA pro license and the decompilers

>>60966171
Why're we so autistic?
Is it good that we are?
I think so.

>>60942557
is cybersecurity still a good field to get into?
I'd heard it was exploding, but I don't know if it's still worth investing in a few certificates or whatever

>>60966779
>Whole world is going toward mass information technology infrastructure
>All of that needs securing and monitoring
>Is cybersecurity a good field to get into?
Mhm... really activates my executables.

>>60966859
there IS such a thing as market saturation, you know

>>60967385
You can still feed a monkey on peanuts.

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>>60966779
It sucks
https://medium.com/@homakov/why-it-sucks-to-be-a-security-researcher-8a1d17fbffe8

Nothing has changed since the 1980s.
A) Find catastrophic security problem
B) Report problem
C) Company/Open Source project denies it's a problem, or just ignores you.
D) Insist it is a problem
E) Company/Open Source project claims it's not a cost-benefit analysis to bother fixing.
F) Exploit security problem
G) Company tries to have you arrested, still denies there is/was ever a problem.

It's kind of waste of time. Like @Homakov in the above article says nobody gives a fuck about security only money. "Security industry" is just a garbage man's job: it will never end. What we need is to stop the litter in the first place, and to that end learning how to do proof-based debugging and things that guarantee security are a lot better than just looking for fires to put out.

The hacker/cipherpunk/cryptoanarchy manifestos of the 80s are still true today: Companies don't give a fuck and neither do governments, better to build decentralized systems from the ground up w/proven security in a free software rewrite than even bother trying to fix these clownshow open source projects who care only about money or appeal to the benevolence of corporations.

>>60967526
So, you're saying go grey hat and just look for profit, legitimate and illegitimate?
I suppose that fits the cyberpunk vibe.

>>60967551
No you'll get caught/arrested do serious time. Go researcher, build resilient systems from the inception using proof-based methods, write them as free software and give up ever making money from it like the OpenBSD people do, or the guy who makes no money maintaining gnupgp, or djb who made no money from cryptobox or grsec guys who decided to stop releasing free patches because nobody cared/paid for it. We all know how to make something provable secure https://cmu-15-316.github.io/schedule/

By all means get into security but it's a meaningless job. Everyday you will discover something catastrophic and literally nobody cares. Banks and whoever would rather just eat the losses than fixing anything and chancing a loss on 'usability'

>>60967721
I see... isn't the future so very bright? :)

The guys at the netrunner project are thinking to go textpunk for their website
>>60967729
>>60968552

>>60949236
The last I heard IntelME's crucial piece of code can now be overwritten; forgot what exactly. This was many many months ago.

>>60962644
You mean mainframes? We still use those at where I work.

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>>60968675
It's called ME Cleaner and only works on certain models of CPUs on certain motherboards. It doesn't disable the ME completely, but rather it strips the firmware down to about 10% of what it was, leaving only the stuff that lets it handle hardware init and power management, basically. It's a lot better than using the default ME firmware but it's still a security risk. If the ME were to somehow get ahold of a network connection and make it to the internet, it could download its firmware and reinstall it. You could set up a firewall on your router, but what about public networks? The OS firewall will do nothing because the ME runs at at a lower level than the BIOS. That's why IMO the only secure computer is one with a fully disabled ME or no ME at all. You'll then have to choose between an old Core2 laptop, older AMD desktop CPUs, or an ARM device. The last one makes the most sense because of the power efficiency and low cost.

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what did he mean by this

>>60942557
My shit laptop has a Realtek RTL8188EE wifi adapter. Is this POS capable of promiscuous mode?

>>60943109
>politics
The reason is that Cyberpunk started as a literary sub genre that was very much a result of the political tensions of its time. The 1980's had Reagan and Thatcher, cold war ending and military industrial complexes, transnational companies with a turnover greater than the GNP of some countries etc. It was not a good time really.

>>60950779
>You could always use polymer plates for the casing.
Trouble is, polymers will not screen EM radiation so your machine will generate a lot of noise.

You could paint the insides of the casing with ferrite paint, or "Iron Ball" in the parlance of the non-com Electronic Warfare people.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiation-absorbent_material#Iron_ball_paint_absorber

=== /cyb/ News

>Swedes go for IC implants
https://www.electronicsweekly.com/news/business/swedes-go-ic-implants-2017-06/

>SJ, the Swedish state railway company, is offering customers a payment option which uses an implanted NFC IC.
>The chip has been implanted in 2000 of SJ’s customers’ hands.
>The Swedes are keen on this sort of thing.

>>60953491
>That's ok, but what's really interesting is the VIPPER archive.
Not found. What is it?

>>60966425
something that's not that

is ctf competitions a meme ? looking through some youtube videos for binary exploitation, and it looks kinda fun.

When the future is made of glass https://youtu.be/6Cf7IL_eZ38
and CRISPR cures most ills, just how dystopic will it then be?

>>60973166
I remember seeing this old commercial from several decades ago about how everything would be made of plastic. I'm not getting my hopes up just yet.

>>60972215
they are fun but it is all subjective so try it out

>>60968882
try it out

>>60968099
Yes, it is.

>>60974176
Try what?

We were on page 9

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>>60942786
It's design is too outdated and hanky, really.

It's neat but it's not secure at all which kind of makes it worthless in the decentralization sphere.

why do I come to here retarded shit threads every time

>>60963724
why not have all that in your possession.

im using tinycore8.0 it loads into ram at boot and you can load more shit on demand if you want. i have it installed on my main laptop, and keep a copy on my keychain to load into other machines. its under 2gb. networking everything is a mistake.


speaking of tinycore, how should i go about hardening it? it already runs elusively on ram. I already obscured the placement of files/load order with a fakeout filesystem naming scheme so even if someone gets physical access its a cluster beyond having to lookup how tinycore works. whats something i can do for online security? im running chromium because tinycore packages lel

is there a list of cpus to check how botnet my machine is?

>>60977238
Good work anon!

And now we passed 300 again!!

(Do I collect a bonus?)

>>60973361
>I'm not getting my hopes up just yet.
How about this feast of IBM grade optimism?
https://youtu.be/CWmcGEMB9CQ

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>>60977984
Always at time, OP.

>>60977733
Yes, here it is:
Botnet pioneer: Intel
2poor4botnet: AMD
Meme & botnet in one: ARM
Literally what? too irrelevant for botnet: most of other architectures

>>60968867
pic saved

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>>60971429
>>Swedes go for IC implants
>>The chip has been implanted in 2000 of SJ’s customers’ hands.

>>60978335
A bit intriguing that information gains sentience and a desire for freedom.

>>60978490
Start with a FPGA and upload a RISC-V processor. or an old, really old, processor.

>>60978674
Aye, it was the less maymay I had.

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>>60978687
How about a colourful Cybergoth image?

>>60979179
I hope you know cybergoth has very little to do with cyberpunk?

OP's dead again.

>>60978490
What about PowerPC?

>>60979581
Yes I know. Some times a purposeful deviation from the norm can be effective. Rhetoric perhaps but not cheap one.

>>60942557
>>60978567
>>60978674
>>60978687
>>60979179
>>60979581
>>60979621
>>60979693
>>60979735
OP is alive!
Continued: >>60979833

>>60959773
im on 13