Firefox is dead to me

>>60938106
Why not just install pulseaudio though?

>>60938106
Just install Pulse, you turboautist.

>electro swing

You deserve everything you get.

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Just download music?

>>60938106
Is this just another thinly veiled fuck poettering thread ?

If so I approve of this thread

Just install this software that is so bloated and unnecessary that even gaymez don't use it, you non-/v/tard.

>>60938106
Install pulseaudio you fucking autistic basement dweller

>>60938106
>HURR DURR SYSTEMD BOTNET
>HURR HURR JEWTUBE IS FINE
>DURR DURR SHITFLIX IS FINE
Fucking neck yourself dipshit

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>>60938432
fuck off attention whore

>>60938432
LOOK AT ME GUIZE I HATE SYSTEMD AND I AM A ""FEM""ANON <3 <3 XOXO XDDD

There's a pulse wrapper for alsa, use that one.

>>60938460
>>60938447
yeah I forget /g/ virgins hate women but whatever
keep jelly ;)

>>60938106
>loonix shit
just install a hackintosh and be done with it. all the benefits of loonix, none of the downsides, so many upsides.

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>>60938477
>women
gas yourself you limp wrist faggot. if I find you I'm gonna beat your homo ass up so bad your gay boyfriend won't even recognize, fucker

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>>60938432

>>60938513
dude u literally forgot to change username while samefagging what a fagit

>>60938253
>t. generic pop rock and rap passive listener

>>60938106
I'm going to just use Firefox ESR for now.

>>60938477
>muh women XDDDDD

>>60938587
Kek

>>60938587
>>60938513
lmao

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>>60938106
>complains about pulseaudio but uses netflix

>netflix on linux
I was under the impression only chrome worked with netflix on loserix

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>>60938106
>Okay with Netflix
>Okay with fucking google
>hurr durr fuck systemd
Typical systemd hater

>>60938106

you have shit taste

>>60938720
At least netflix is a botnet that adds value to your life, you can't same the same thing about systemd and pulseaudio.

You have three options

>Install red hat malware on your computer
>Go back to windows
>Try OpenBSD

>>60938807
Pulseaudio is pretty fucking worthless, I think the only thing it adds that ALSA doesn't already do is volume controls for individual programs? Which IMO is fucking unnecessary anyway. Anyway, Mozilla has been killing Firefox for years, why are you surprised? Firefox is fucking Rasputin at this point.

>>60938838
it's silverlight tier but worse what the fuck?
>linusfags will defend this

>>60938106
can anyone explain what "pulseaudio" is?

Sorry, I don't speak poor-people-ese. never used linux.

>>60938883
Why are you on /g/?

>>60938986
it's summer break and i'm bored, I miss my HS classmates

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>>60938838
>Volume controls for individual programs is unnecessary

>>60938106
when did they make netflix work in firefox?
I have been using chrome for this for way too long.

/usr/bin/google-chrome-stable --app="https://netflix.com"

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>Netflix
>Google
>Steam

>muh Pulse Audio
>muh sjwzilla

>>60938106

>2017
>apps still going for cutting edge instead of sustainable compatibility
>mfw competition kills the most well established softwares
>mfw competition breaks everything
>mfw I practically have to have a sepearte machine for every software generation
>mfw compatibility is illegal
>mfw wanting to have free software in capitalism

you brought this on yourself

>>60938106
>Uses Netflix
>Uses Steam
>Uses mp3 codec
>won't install Pulse
You literally have no excuse, you fucking retard.

>>60938106
>pays for youtube
>opinion discarded

>>60938472
Oh cheers, I'll look into that

I'd install pulseaudio but it introduces a fuckload of latency. It's unsuitable for music software

>>60938106
>>60735405

http://ix.io/xoM

>>60938106
Pale Moon does not have this problem.

>>60939290
Mp3 is free software now.

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>>60940093
this

you should also be using EME free firefox builds

>>60938616
Because fucking electro swing is the height of patricianism, anon

2 months old issue, FF dropped alsa support, there are still compilation flags and patches. What's the distro? Arch? Gentoo sets it auto without pulseaudio flag.

>>60938235
>>60938226
>>60938422
I wish there wasn't an audible difference in quality between plain ALSA and Pulse tho. I wish I was just being an placebo audiophile. You can change the resample method and spend all your CPU time on fucking audio resampling but surely there's a better way. Windows doesn't seem to have this problem

So many times I'd try out GNOME and wonder why music sounded kinda crappy, kill pulseaudio, and be happy again

... according to some googling right now pulse can just not resample audio when it doesn't need to. If that's reliable then I'd be a happy camper.

Google Chrome doesn't have this problem

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>>60938883
Audio on Linux is one giant malfunctioning hell. PulseAudio sound server is poor solution by RedHat and systemd people that got popular and is in any desktop-oriented distro and DE by default.

Currently significant distros that don't use PulseAudio are Archfags and Gentoo, but on Gentoo it's easy to compile packages with ALSA bindings - older traditional sound server.

>>60938106
>lunixcucks need to open a terminal just to take a screenshot
BTFO

>>60940379
>evything on Linux is one giant malfunctioning hell.

>>60940382
what is keybindings

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>>60938616
Did you just called Wu tang trash?
You can't just objective a music genre in one word.
Except pop rock en few others
But I think you get my idea.

>>60940382
>wahahahahahaha, he uses terminal to take screenshot
>I'm retarded windows user and I know only one way to do things
Tss... Print Screen works on linux too, you know.
Also:
Shift+Print Screen = select area to screenshot
Alt+Print Screen = screenshot window
Ctrl+Print Screen = copy screenshot to clipboard
There are more bindings copying to clipboard (area and window).

Checkmate, atheist.

>>60938106
>netflix user
>complain about having to install pulse
You have weird priorities, and shit taste.

>>60940619
>not taking a picture of ur monitor with your phone

>>60940645
>Not taking picture of monitor with phone and not transfering picture from phone to PC by taking picture of phone via web cam

browsers aren't made for music and video playing
just use a real media player like mpv or vlc

>linux
Found your problem OP.

>>60938838
>>60940344
>>60940322
Pulse is NOT a replacement for Alsa. It isn't even there to compete with Alsa. Rather, Pulse is there to solve a problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place.

Essentially, there used to be (and still are) a few different sound engines with varying popularity and developers at the time would have to write and maintain their shit so that it would work regardless of whatever the user had running on their system. This was a huge pain in the ass and given complications with propriatary software and just general stubbornness it was unlikely to ever be resolved. So Pulse was created to work as an abstraction layer that interfaced with these different sound engines so that developers wouldn't have to.

It's written in such a way that software written for OSS or Alsa will still work but users can directly write stuff for Pulse without having to work as hard. Pulse also handles sound mixing and manages different hardware devices as well as different programs and in general works in a more modern way.

I'm not saying that Pulse is perfect or even good. All I'm saying is that it's an ugly solution for a problem that shouldn't exist in the first place. That said, it is certainly a much better solution than other likely scenarios.

By the way, JACK is a little similar to pulse but for professional audio (Pulse is for general use).

>>60940379
This, unfortunately. Though PulseAudio is super easy to install on Arch (just isn't installed by default) and I think most users probably use it nowadays.

>>60940619
That depends on the screenshot program you've got running. Several Desktop Environments/Window Managers either come with one or have one available but there are third party programs as well. The features and functionality between them vary.

The one I have for instance not only lets me configure what those buttons do but then lets me decide what to do with the image (e.g. copy to clipboard, save to file, upload to imgur, etc..).

>>60940344
>I wish there wasn't an audible difference in quality between plain ALSA and Pulse

If you cared about audio quality you would not be using ALSA. It sounds far worse than OSSv4 and much worse than Windows. They should rename ALSA to TINCAN.

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>>60940901
I never thought I cared until I actually heard a difference between Pulse on and off. ~2011 I did actually try OSSv4 because I was a high schooler with infinity time to waste but I didn't see/hear any benefit other than this glorious sound mixer (pic related)

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>>60941165
incidentally I was also a mad hot ricer

Holy fuck just install pulse you autistic neckbeard

>>60939020
every modern program that has audio also has it's own control for it, yes it is indeed unnecessary or at least I have not had issues where I couldn't lower the volume of a program from the program itself

>>60941196
>just give yourself cancer

>>60941165
>>60941194
That seems unnesecarily large, but nice in general. Why didn't you just stick with ossv4 then, if it sounds the same? You get a mixer out of it. Compatibility issues?

>>60941558
>Okay with Google cancer
>Okay with Netflix cancer
>Okay with Anime cancer
>Okay with numale music cancer
>hurr durr pulseaudio too mainstream xDDDDD
Neck yourself

>>60938838
I patched per process volume control into the alsa softvol and have been using that for a few years no problem. Not that I actually use it that much because most programs have in-app volume control.

>>60941736
Retard.

>>60941965
Autist.

>>60941965
He has got a point, you are just a winey bitch.

>>60938106
>Update to Firefox 57
>All addons are disabled
>Switch to ESR or go back to Firefox 56 and keep the vulnerabilities.
Remember this in 3 months.

>>60940714
Buy windows goy!

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>>60941736
>Hating anime on an anime discussion forum

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>>60945821

>>60945841
Again, take your memes to reddit. This site is created for anime discussion.

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>>60945869

>>60940822
>Pulse is there to solve a problem that shouldn't have existed in the first place.
Isn't that true for all of Poetterings software?

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>>60938226
PA is yet another famous failure of poettering.

Why ditch ALSA the moment it became the first light in the linux audio mess?

>>60938807
>netflix is a botnet that adds value to your life


what a nice fucking joke man

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>>60945892
>You will never think you will win an argument by posting memes
Feels good to not have down syndrome.

Firefox is now significantly more performant than Chrome when surfing porn tumblrs and opening lots of tabs with tumblr porn.
And when I say significantly I mean: Chrome breaks down after 5 opened tabs containing "More you might like" sections, Firefox can open more than you'd ever need without breaking down.
I am impressed.

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>>60945944

>>60945989
lol

>>60945966
>ff is optimized for browsing of feminazi and furry porn sites

This explains a lot.

>>60946026
Fuck you, furry porn is hot.

>>60938106
>electro swing
you don't deserve audio

>>60938106
>netflix

>>60938106
>have to get new browser to use fucking hangouts
>go with FF because Chrome is out of the question
>you have to install PulseAudio

fuck this shit

It half ass imported my bookmarks from iceweasel I never asked, then when I decided it is time to ditch this pile of steaming garbage, my bookmarks are gone from iceweasel. Guess my .mozilla folder got overwritten, nothing personnel heh

even though I unticked the default browser check, it gives me the prompt on startup and overrides my pick of never check for updates to let me choose when to install them. At least telemetry is not enabled silently though at this point I'm not sure whether those boxes do anything

>>60938106

Firefox was doomed back in 2009. Chrome always has been better.

Edgy anti-establisment people used firefox and thought it was better because of bias.

Should of been obvious when Chrome came out with chromebooks... its own operating system built out of a browser...

>>60938106
?You listen to electro swing? Do you watch musicals too? Kill yourself

>>60945892
God i wish that was me

>>60938500
>no drivers
>having to edit your dsdt
>closed source
>updates break things more than any other os

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'member when pulseaudio delayed your sound by almost half a second?

those were the times

So what's the solution linux fags?

surf+oss just werks. fuck bloat.

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>>60938253
There is literally NOTHING wrong with electro swing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoVTIG57JoA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgnTdj23DIk

https://soundcloud.com/dimiecat/aaa-triple-a

https://soundcloud.com/bibzmusic/if-only-alarms-didnt-ring-feat-nina-zeitlin

Pale Moon doesn't have this problem

>>60938106
there is a solution for this, install apulse. It's pretending to be a pulse sink when a application is looking for pulse.

>>60948913
Thanks, will look into.

>>60949129
Oh, I tough i was too late with that reply.
I was talking about this one here https://github.com/i-rinat/apulse
I'm not using it myself nowadays because I drank the kool-aid but it worked in the past for steam and such things. I hope it works out for you in firefox. Seems to involve some work on your end according to the issue tracker.

>>60938106
install pale moon

>>60945894
I'd argue that systemd is a little different since it's really a replacement to System V and not an abstraction layer on top of it.

Really the major complaints about systemd are complaints about how it's doing things which is really the same sort of complaints one has about Sysem V. If System V continues to be popular and developers are forced to deal with compatibility with either then in the future we may see a Pulse-like abstraction layer that allows one to talk to both.

I've heard dbus compared to pulse in some way but I don't remember the exact reasoning right now, but I believe it is a better comparison.

I like systemd but that doesn't mean there aren't things about it I dislike that would like to see changed. Binary logs for instance just seem like a dangerous thing to have.