iFixit grades MS Surface Laptop 0/10

Yeah, it truly sucks.

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>>60936463
This is how it feels to use closed source software. It's like they want you to hate them.

they want the apple audience
and they actually captured a good portion

There was a thread about it over here already
>>60935764

Anyway my opinion:
Microsoft wrapped literal chinkshit in a macbook design. This thing is a literal scam. I haven't compared but I bet the SSD is worse than the similar priced macbooks anyway.

So basically they are trying to fool people by pretending to have better value for money than a macbook, but actually they don't have that. They just shoved higher specs so they can point to it on paper while they skimped out everywhere else. Literally a scam to make you think it's better than a macbook. Just get a macbook.

>>60937722
>Get a Macbook
No, that's literally the second worst thing you can do (after getting a Surface)

>>60936463
>no screws or method of access
No shit. You're supposed to throw it in the garbage when something happens(tm) to it.

>>60936463
>Connectivity differences include: an SDXC card reader and a second USB port in the Air.
...and the fucking dock port on the Surface?

Isn't capitalism just great?

>>60937825
It is.

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>>60937825
Where's the socialist laptops?

>>60936463
Make glued in batteries illegal already, they're guaranteed to fail creating a shit load of e-waste.

I recently upgraded my laptop's ram plus swapped the HDD for an SSD and I couldn't be happier, couldn't imagine being stuck with aging easily replaceable components.

>>60937825
>failure is an OPTION, as opposed to everything being Venezuela-tier
Yes, yes it is.

>>60937684
Why would anyone running a god tier MacOS switch to poordows

>>60937909
venezuela is what you get when you depend too much on capitalism

>>60938011
Those places are fucked up because of niggers and Islam

now get back to ribbit

>>60938025
>racist comeback
Why am I not surprised?

>>60938025

>lose an argument
>"I know, I'll just lose it harder by appealing to more fallacies and being a jackass!"

Nice!

>>60938025
>>>/pol/

>>60938011
>Capitalism doing wonders

You are under 16 right?

>>60936463
Microshit POOJEETS on a fucking suicide watch!

TOP KEK

What a piece of shit that garbage is.

>>60938025

Yeah like, nevermind how Islamic and Sub-Saharan African countries were superior to Europe for the entirety of the Dark Ages, and the only way Europe managed to turn the game around was finding entire new continents inhabited by peaceful, unarmed peoples, subduing them and then stealing all their wealth and finally using that wealth to destabilize the entirety of Africa and the Middle East with colonialism. White people are so superior!

>>60938085
Stop replying to trolls!

>>60938053
Can't you detect irony?

>ONE USB 3 port
>proprietary garbage surface connect port
>Windows 10 S
>odd resolution but good aspect ratio
>EVERYTHING soldered to the mobo
>impossible to repair

what a piece of garbage, it looks pretty tho. sucks cause i actually wanted it, maybe it will get better in the next version but knowing Microsoft it will only get minor spec bumps

>>60937807
The air has a thunderbolt port too

>>60938165
>Thunderbolt 2
Might as well have an onahole. At least then it would be useful for something.

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>>60938011
>Blame the imperialist aggressors: Since 1914.

>>60938011
>Capitalism is doing wonders for...Somalia
Yes, yes it is.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0147596707000741

>>60938307
This time it actually is imperial aggressors. Or well, it always was, least for small countries.
I mean, you'd have to forget that the USA intervened in Russia's Civil war on the side of the royalists.

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>>60938011
>Seriously, saying that only makes you look dumb. Everybody knows that:

Go on...

>1- Venezuela is not fucked up due to socialism, it's because of American imperialistic interventionism.

Haha, okay, you can stop now.

>>60938044
>If I don't like it it's a fallacy.
Sorry but the problem with nigger and islamic countries is they have niggers and muslims, that's just reality

>>60937722
this is a shitty device, but insistently calling it "literally a scam" just makes you and the rest of us look like we're retarded. it's not a scam. it's not dishonest. if you buy this and then later feel like microsoft perpetrated a dishonest scheme in selling this to you, then you're just a gargantuan fucking idiot.

if you can't measure your words and use them appropriately, don't post. you muddy the conversation and force people who are otherwise "on your side" to have to double back and clarify your retarded shitposting.

ITT: apple fags rabidly projecting their own faults onto other products

>>60938085
>Sub-Saharan African countries were superior to Europe for the entirety of the Dark Ages
wew lad

I've heard the islamic one before but never heard this one. What are they teaching in these liberals colleges these days?

>>60938431
If communism wasn't so shit, they would win. If your system needs every other country in the world to play nice while you try to change their governments, your system is shit. The communist internationale was a thing and the USSR sent thousands of men to Spain.

>>60938573
Communism is shit, but the US is also an extremely hostile colonial power.

>>60938085
Who said summer meant lower quality bait

>>60938552
>if you can't measure your words and use them appropriately, don't post.
Ironic because I have no idea what you were trying to say with this mess of a post

>>60936463
So why would anyone buy this over LG Gram Hp spectre or dell xps??

>>60938581
So was the USSR, and to a lesser extent China. Capitalism won that fight.

>>60938599
Not sure how 'capitalist' the united states could be when the major industries:
Military, pharmaceuticals, agricultural, computing, automotive, finance are all HEAVILY subsidised by the government. Military is funded by the pentagon, that's hundreds of billions, pharma is funded by public research, agricultural- subsidies, automotive 'GM is too big to fail', and finance 'trillion dollars for the banks- Obama'.
How is this capitalism? This is a state run economy.

>>60938608
Yeah its refresging to see tech companies like Spacex taking a extremely capitalist approach compared to these wasteful companies sharing beds with the feds. Spacex undercuts Boeing on sattelite launch by 300M... That's capitalism, motherfucker.

>>60938646
SpaceX is sucking on that government teat too, just not through NASA.

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>>60938608
Are you expecting me to disagree with you?

America has become increasingly state-run with detrimental effects on the economy. Tech prospered because there was little to no regulation initially.

>>60938669
There's a difference between competing for government contracts while undercutting your competitor, and being a sole-provider for the government and cranking your costs as high as Congress lets you.

>>60938669

yeah all those no bid contracts...

>all these useful idiots defending capitalism
>in a thread about how corporations are fucking them up
>in a board that is against proprietary software and pro-free software

Ironic.

>>60938685
Yes, which is why there is no competition for government contracts any more. Let's see how well GM, or the miltiary competes.
Or how about IBM? where are their competitors?

All the competition for American business is overseas. This 'competing for government contracts' hasn't been true since all the companies that won the contracts bought out the companies that didn't.

>>60938758
Also the competition isn't "who is the best" it's "who donated the most to my political campaign"

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I swear, if you people would just be willing to go for true communism the world would be a better place.

>>60938669
Hmm... So you know that Boeing gets one billion dollars per year as a subsidy from the federal government just to stay in business, right? And they only sell overpriced rockets to USA. Yet the company that generates it's own revenue by selling $60M launches to companies and governments all over the world is? Spacex started by selling to Malasia. Fuck off with your shilling.

>>60938785
It's easy: just delete /pol/ and get rid of all the edgy stormfront trolls so threads can stop all being derailed into politics.

>>60938772
Please nigger you're falling into the american framed political discussion. The US wants you to believe that there's no such thing as little state control. Communism in america land implies Stalin style super-state control. It also requires it since people who say 'no' to giving up their belongings require force to separate them from it.
Communism is shit.

>>60938814
>everyone I disagree with is a commie
It's sad when your political belief is so fringe you have to appeal to labeling your opponents to legitimize your stupid political trolling.

Stormweenies fuck off already.

>>60938758
Are you implying that unregulated capitalism leads to monopolies which obstruct free market and are bad for literally everyone except themselves?

Why is it always communism (a theoretical construct that no state has ever implemented, instead you're thinking of dictators like stalin or some banana dictators) against hardcore liberal capitalism? What about social democracy, having free markets with some regulation ensuring the health of the market and workers' rights?

>the Soviet Union was bad, therefore we can't have healthcare

>criticize capitalism
>you're automatically a commie

You guys do realize that corporate shills are using that cheap trick in order to stop us from moving on from capitalism, right?

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>>60938552
Considering when the battery dies in a few years you can't even replace it, I would consider it a dishonest product, yes. It's like pic related. All too similar to another better product. It's not quite this bad but imagine we can take away the Microsoft logo and put a chinese name on it, then tell me it's not a macbook knockoff.

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>>60938011
>that only makes you look dumb.
>1- Venezuela is not fucked up due to socialism, it's because of American imperialistic interventionism.

>>60938858
There's no such thing as "dishonesty" in a free market, you dumb moralfag. That's why it's free. Nobody is forced to buy it, there's this thing called CONSENT in every transaction. Now fuck off, you goddamn communist.

We'd really improve /g/ if mods permabanned commies.

>>60938875
I agree, what does that have to do with anything?

Literally no one in this thread advocated for communism at any moment. We just criticized capitalism.

>>60938011
>1- Venezuela is not fucked up due to socialism, it's because of American imperialistic interventionism.

Hey dumbass, was it the Americans who implemented price controls, was it the americans who started randomly sezing businesses and making it impossible to operate there.

Typical commie denialism of MUH NOT REAL MARXISM, not realising that any ideology like marxism that disregards basic economics will always fail

>>60938875
>stormweenies: you can't delete /pol/, it's against freedom of speech!
>also stormweenies: lol ban everybody who disagrees with me XDDDD

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>>60938897
>weenies xD
Why is circa 2012 JIDF on 2017 /g/?

>>60938874
No one is forced to let pajeet remote desktop connection into their pc either. It's consented but you are still getting scammed.

>>60938897

I'm not a stormcunt, both are cancerous but commies are infinitely worse given communism's history of murder and oppression and genocide.

>>60938893
Hey if communism is so awful, why does the US need to keep intervening in communist countries to stop them 'falling to communism'? If it's awful then just let it happen and it'll weaken them.
It's pretty fucking obvious that you'd only need to intervene if communism had a chance of strengthening a country, and that'd be horrible for say, a country that relies on cheap export of that country's resources, since the stronger a country is the more bargaining power it has over its own resources and labor.
Interesting how US liberated areas are all shitholes.

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>>60938926

>>60936463
>ie microsoft didnt pay them
ifixit is the ign of the tech worlds

>>60938926
>It's pretty fucking obvious that you'd only need to intervene if communism had a chance of strengthening a country, and that'd be horrible for say, a country that relies on cheap export of that country's resources, since the stronger a country is the more bargaining power it has over its own resources and labor.
>Interesting how US liberated areas are all shitholes.

Yeah Venezuela is a paradise

>>60938926
Hahaha oh wow

>>60938011
>1- Venezuela is not fucked up due to socialism, it's because of American imperialistic interventionism.

Aren't you late to an antifa meeting or something?

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>>60938874
>>60938917
MAJORLY, ASSHURTINGLY, ETERNALLY.... rekt!!1

how will anarchist libertarians ever recover??

>>60938893

>was it the Americans who...
It was the Americans who attempted a coup d'état in Venezuela between 2002 and 2004, completely destabilizing the country. The American-gov't funded National Endowment for Democracy still sends money to Venezuelan terrorist opposition groups to this day to help destabilize the country.

And before you play the long refuted "w-we were just trying to save you from le gommunism bogeyman XDDDDD" card, reminder that America supported the communist regime of Plutarco Elías Calles in México. You guys don't give a fuck about ideology or have any morals, you just want to destabilize the entirety of Latin America in order to keep getting easy access to our natural resources.

This retarded "le Latin Ameriga is bad bcs of gommunism" meme must die. Besides Cuba (which is, to the right-wing's disarray, the most developed country in Latin America), no single Latin American country has EVER had a communist regime.

>marxism disregards basic economics
Economic illiterate detected. You're probably one of those idiots who just took an ECON 101 section and thinks that automatically qualifies you to talk about economics, but doesn't even know what effective aggregate demand is, or what a monopsony is. Either that or you're a shill.

>>60938917
That's just social darwinism at work, lad. Nothing wrong with it.

>>60938976
Aren't you supposed to be at the sweatshop floor for the 14th hour straight, alongside your wife and kids, just to earn a famine wage at the end of the week, since you love capitalism so much and hate all the progress that socialism, unions and organized labor have brought to our society?

>>60938926
Look at North Korea for an example of what the US fears will happen when countries go communist. It's a human rights nightmare and also a military threat. It's not good for anyone, least of all the North Koreans.

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>>60939031
We fear the US, not some propaganda bogeyman, dear shill.

>>60939001

Maduro and Chavez have been nothing less than brutal dictators and should be actively opposed

Read for yourself you degenerate antifa shill

https://www.hrw.org/news/2013/03/05/venezuela-chavezs-authoritarian-legacy

Lets see dumbass:

>price controls
>randomly seizing business production
>arresting business owners at random
>make it impossible for enterprise to operate

http://edition.cnn.com/2016/12/10/americas/venezuelan-government-toy-seizure-grinch/

>>60939031

North Korea is actually pretty average as Asian countries go.

>inb4 unfair comparison to that literal welfare state called South Korea
You mean the country that gets gorillions in aid from the US? Funny how capitalists suddenly are defending a welfare state.

But seriously, NK is not that bad. Stop believing all the propaganda.

>>60939051

Thanks for the American propaganda links.

>>60939031
>>60939051
You guys mad because Castro took away all your slaves and freed them? Must've been so sad for your parents :´(

This thread is utter shit. Even worse than threads that shill for a special product or >insert company name here IS FINISHED

>>60939031
All the countries that America 'helped' away from communism are ALSO human rights nightmares on the level of north korea.
This is not a distinguishing feature. The reason America hasn't toppled north korea is because their state actually DID give them some power.

>>60939062
>>60939074

>muh merican propaganda

Damn I knew antifa was fucking stupid but goddamn.

When its got like fuckwits like you no wonder marxism has always been a complete failure

what happened to this thread? you all should be gassed.

>>60936463
What does /g/ think of the Dell-badged surfaces? I have opened a few of them up at work and they are very easy to get into and put back together. I've only ever encountered one MS-specific surface and they look like toys.

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>>60939062
>North Korea isn't that bad
We've reached peak cuck!

>>60939082

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xs--To414I

I know you'll just call this propaganda (which is ironic), but I'm just putting this out there so the uninformed won't fall for your cheap rhetoric.

Now fuck off back to your cancer board >>>/pol/

>>60939082
Man I sure hope journalists have a track record of not making up stories about human rights issues to make it seem like America is in the right

>14 images / 88 replies

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>>60939031
>whine about human rights violations
>post Pinochet helicopter memes

>>60939082
>Drumpftards: "CNN is fake n0000z!"
>also Drumpftards: post CNN links to prove NK is a "human rights nightmare"
Can't make this shit up!

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>>60939010
So you're incapable of understanding or grasping the concept of moderation and rational thinking... and also lack sense of morality or basic human compassion -- gotcha.

Your idea of a political/governmental utopia would be absolutely miserable.

I hate far left liberalfags and lazy scum leeching off the rest just as much as the next guy, but at least I understand that humanity, as a working/happy/prospering civilization, we need to have a bit of order in the form of government, rules, and a decent safety net for the low IQ niggers, the crazies, and all the poorly raised folks.

Darwin happens to do his own thing and doesn't need our help in regards to "weed-whacking", but it's going to take some time, and we need fulfill this time gracefully & humanely.

>>60939031
i agree with this, even chinas pretty shit, especially with their rights to information and also the fact they outlaw meditation

>>60939101
>>60939107
>>60939119

>Human Rights watch
>propaganda

Typical moronic antifa shitposter

>VENEZULA IS A PARADISE
>ITS ALL PROPAGANDA

Seriously do us all a favour and fucking live there, the less commies the better

>>60937684
And of course, in true MS fashion, they fuck it up entirely. For all the complaints of Apple devices being locked down and it being difficult to open them up and all that, it's always at least been possible to open them up and put them back together again.

>>60939131
>Venezuela
We were talking about North Korea. Is your attention span that short?

But anyway, I thought we had already established that Venezuela is shit due to American intervention! What are you talking about?

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>>60938011
>im12andthisisdeep

>>60939131
>less commies
fewer*

>>60938935
If it doesn't increase a state's power why is it a threat to the US.
It's fucking horrible for the people, usually, but this is not important. Not to the US. What is important is that the country is not independent.

>>60938939
And Venezuela isn't threatening US business interests. It's a horrible place and the US isn't intervening, I wonder why. Oh wait, it's because they aren't trying to socialise and become independent.

>>60939131
If Venezuela is a shithole, why isn't the US invading to help them? Oh right, because it being a shithole makes their exports cheaper.

>>60939150
Stop replying to bait!

this laptop is aimed at students yet probably won't last a 3 year course before failing

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>>60939122
>look at this clueless idiot

ITT: M$ shills trying to derail a thread about their shit product, but they were too lazy to hire quality shitposters and instead found /pol/ posters to pay with vaporcoins because they also frequent /biz/ because they live in third world countries and need supplemental income to purchase a bitcoin rig to run on stolen electricity produced by their communist government.

>>60937825
It is. Noone forces you to buy microshit hardware.
If enough people stop buying their shit they will be forced to change the way they produce their tablets.
And if people but their products anyway it means they're satisfied with what they got.

You little brainlet socialist trash. Get cancer

>>60939150
Does Venezuela even have exports?

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>>60939233
immigrants!

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>>60936463
>>4GB of RAM
>Core i5
>128GB SSD
>1000 Good Boy Points
Are you fucking kidding me? Can you at least install Debian on it to make it usable or does it have a locked EFI loader that makes it Winshit only? This is absolutely retarded.

>>60939233
Oil. But the price is low ATM so their export isn't that good.

>>60938772
>True communism

>>60937684
While iPads are pretty much sealed shut AFAIK, my Macbook Air is one of the easiest to service laptops ever made. Remove some screws, whole bottom comes off, easy access to everything. Not that you can do much but replace the battery.

>>60939552
Doesn't that count for pretty much any macbook? Or are there any where you can't unscrew some screws to remove the bottom?

>>60938926
>Hey if ISIS is so awful, why does the US need to keep intervening in islamist countries to stop them 'falling to islamic terrorism'? If it's awful then just let it happen and it'll weaken them.
It's pretty fucking obvious that you'd only need to intervene if islamic terrorism had a chance of strengthening a country, and that'd be horrible for say, a country that relies on cheap export of that country's resources, since the stronger a country is the more bargaining power it has over its own resources and labor.
Interesting how US liberated areas are all shitholes.

>>60938772
true communism is ideal, but humans are too weak for it.

remember kid, communism isn't the problem. people is the problem.

I'm not buying a laptop before ryzen mobile anyway.

>>60936463
If it is released by a major (American) company they may as well just give it a 0/10 without bothering to take it apart nowdays.

>>60938011
>because of American imperialistic interventionism

Last time I checked, America didn't invade all those south american nations and force them to destroy their own economies with socialism.

>>60939588
I disagree.
I fail to see why someone who contributes way more to society should have the same quality of life as someone who contributed way less to society.

>>60939671
Guatemala, 1954
Dominican Republic, 1961
Cuba, 1961 (failed)
Operation MONGOOSE
Brazil, 1964
Dominican Republic, 1965
Chile, 1973
Destabilizing Nicaragua 1982-1989
Operation Urgent Fury in Grenada, 1983
Panama, 1989

Holy shit, that list turned out much longer than anticipated. And this is just the military operations and (attempted) regime changes in middle and South America. Add the middle eastern clusterfuck, Korea and Vietnam to this and tell me that the Americans aren't imerpialistic interventionists.

>>60939757
What if I am paying, not the goberments? I want niggas to be better than eveyone else for my own good to make the country look good?

>>60938025
>go to gulag racist

>>60939588
no, communism still doesnt work

Even in the "successful" communist regimes they had to look overseas to figure out the value of products and sort out their market, because they had nothing to go on by themselves. If the whole world was communist without a capitalist market to base things off, it would all collapse. Which it still did anyway.

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>>60938085
>Yeah like, nevermind how Islamic and Sub-Saharan African countries were superior to Europe for the entirety of the Dark Ages, and the only way Europe managed to turn the game around was finding entire new continents inhabited by peaceful, unarmed peoples, subduing them and then stealing all their wealth and finally using that wealth to destabilize the entirety of Africa and the Middle East with colonialism. White people are so superior!

If they were so superior then why weren't they able to discover new continents first?

Also
>peaceful, unarmed peoples
Are you actually implying that the Aztecs for example were peaceful?

>>60939806
>Korea
Defending a capitalist country against Russian backed communist aggression

>Vietnam
Defending a capitalist country against Russian backed communist aggression

but capitalists are real aggressors

>>60938925
>egalitarian society os impossible
>let's just give half the worlds wealth to literally 8 dudes and see how this plays out instead
>blame black people

>>60939051
>>price controls
>>randomly seizing business production
>>arresting business owners at random
>>make it impossible for enterprise to operate

sounds like heaven.

>Designed by Microsoft in Redmond
haha they've even copied that

>>60939876
What about the democratically elected governments that were overthrown in middle and South America?

>>60939876
>ignoring 90% of the post you are replying to

>make computer from cloth
lel

>>60937671
Literally closed source hardware

Finally Microsoft has beaten Apple!

>>60939858
Europeans were able to find America largely due to their geographic location. It's now known that the Vikings were the first Europeans in America and they got there by hopping from island to island in the North Atlantic ocean. It was extremely unlikely that any nation not on the Atlantic coast would ever reach America, and those nations in Africa already had plenty of frontiers to push other than the oceans. Europeans had to develop advanced sailing technology in order to continue extending trade networks. It just so happened that because of the advanced sailing technology, they hit the motherload as far as natural resources go, especially precious metals, which had already been mined and refined by locals in many cases.

It's easy to say that your white skin makes you better, but it doesn't. I'm white and I'm better than you, but not because I'm whiter than you. Remember that Genghis Khan commanded the largest empire in human history and was the most prolific male to ever live. Was that because he was Mongolian, or because the Mongolian steppes led to advanced cavalry technology that far surpassed anything else of the time?

>send in for repairs
>they use a special tool to copy the SSD content directly
>load it into a new laptop and return
"repairs"

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Such a shame, the direction the laptop market is going. I'd take a few millimeter thicker laptops in exchange for easy upgradeability and repairability any day.

>>60940070
>It's now known that the Vikings were the first Europeans in America and they got there by hopping from island to island in the North Atlantic ocean.
This is completely irrelevant to the discussion.
Spain and Portugal didn't use this method of "island hopping" to discover and colonize the new world.

>those nations in Africa already had plenty of frontiers to push other than the oceans
Are you implying that this wasn't true for European nations as well?

>Europeans had to develop advanced sailing technology in order to continue extending trade networks. It just so happened that because of the advanced sailing technology, they hit the motherload as far as natural resources go, especially precious metals, which had already been mined and refined by locals in many cases.
So you're finally admitting that European countries were already far more advanced before finding entire new continents?

>It's easy to say that your white skin makes you better, but it doesn't.
Nice strawman argument. You're the one bringing up race and skin colour, I never did.
> I'm white and I'm better than you, but not because I'm whiter than you.
lol

>>60940070
The chinese had ship building advanced enough to get to America- and they did. They just went as light traders and not conquerors. That and chinese foreign policy was pretty spastic, an example is that one emperor was all for trade and had giant ships with lime trees on them to prevent scurvy, and the next just burnt them all and went all isolationist. No consistent policy.

Europe benefited most from the consistent policy it had (which was to conquer and enslave)

>>60939552
>Macbook Air is one of the easiest to service laptops ever made
>Not that you can do much but replace the battery.

What's the point then? It's better than Microsoft's mess but only just.

>>60939806
>Brazil
Kek, There were no coup. But empires where built with american money wich before the fall of the old constitution would be ilegal.

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>>60939858
>no rain
>time to kill a baby!

>>60939552
>tfw like MacBook Air but don't like black dick

What does it mean bros...

>>60939858
Yeah calling the native americans peaceful is a load of shit. They were hella violent, they just didn't have smallpox resistance or guns. They majorly misunderstood the invaders, too. Thinking they could be bought off with gold and diplomacy, they didn't understand that it was an existential threat that was coming in the ships and not trading partners.

>>60938011
Venezuela elected a bus driver with an 8th grade education. That is the reason why. They dug their own grave.

Will never understand why they used alcantara. Planned obsolescence maybe. Work on cars with this interior and that shit gets nasty as fuck after a while. Used in a lot of race cars for extra grip but drivers wear gloves.

>>60940247
Man, those witch hunts and spanish inquisitions sure were 'peaceful european religion'

>>60940220
the whole thing is basically one small board

what's there to replace, a bunch of teeny tiny parts the size of grains of sand or rice?

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So what tablets are worth it then?
Assuming I'm okay with abysmal resolution, is the Fire HD any good?

>Muh ebul capitalism
Nice try, Marx Jr.

>>60940358
>So what tablets are worth it then?
None.

>>60940256
>tfw like my macbook but want money
>tfw unironically like dick
>tfw macbook owner liking dicks
>tfw no face when

>>60940358
android tablets are a waste of time

windows tablet or ipad

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>>60940513

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>Surface Laptop, a x86 multipurpose computer, is completely glued shut and non-serviceable

>Meanwhile Switch, a fully proprietary gaming tablet, is modular with almost all parts easily replaceable

just why

'You want a repair? Buy this new model goy'

>>60937671
There's no good alternatives to closed source software though.

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Capitalism and communism are equally shit.

Have you found Hitler yet?

>>60941100
Nazism combines the worst things about communism and capitalism. An ideology for losers.

>>60941111
quads for untruth

>>60941100
Nazism is just communism with final solution.

>>60939237
Kek

>>60941111
>An ideology for losers.
But you do get to strut around in Hugo Boss uniforms and be as gay as you like.

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>>60938011
>1- Venezuela is not fucked up due to socialism

Good to know it was the american imperialist who nationalized their oil industry

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>>60941111

No no no, you can go more retarded

>>60939888
Maybe if you weren't such a beta manlet, you'd be one of those 8 people.

>>60937825
It takes one post to trigger /pol/ and derail a thread

>>60941111
Nazism/communism can theoretically still work in ethnonationalism society where like minded people exist, but even in slightly multicultural countries like USA, it turns to a shitshow because diversity means people with various needs and thinking patterns. Pushing communism in USA is paradoxical. All these big corporations pandering to the sjw agenda are basically shooting themselves in the leg and are too shortsighted to see where they are going.

>>60939806
Half your examples are fucking wrong.

Not to mention 30-50 fucking years ago, and had nothing to do with forcing socialism on them.

Why are commies never intelligent?

>>60938772
If people would just be willing to go for [_________] the world would be a better place.

>>60941710
Any society can work where everyone is like-minded, that's the true redpill.

>>60939858
>If they were so superior then why weren't they able to discover new continents first?

They did.

Go read "Africa and the Discovery of America", Leo. to find out that not only once they discover it, but several times. but unlike the European, they did not go full killing spree for the natives and claim it their country. instead, Muslim were more into trading like how they did to all east-asia like Philippines/China/etc.

>>60939237
Quality show

>>60938724
giving the population easy internet access was a mistake.

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>tfw i own a surface book
>tfw i'm very happy with it

>>60942797
Well it would be quite sad if you drive crashes

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>>60942797

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>>60941484
Jesus Christ, you're right. What a shit show this thread was.

>>60939044
>Telesur
The fox new of south america

>>60937739
Got a surface 4 pro.
Feels good senpai.
Everything I need it to be for a university lapotop.
Portability, power, battery, transforms into a tablet if i want it to, pen for note taking, pro for decrypting for normie stuff.

The only cons is that it does not have a normal hdmi and no aux. That would be great.

>>60939206
See >>60938917

>>60939876
>defending a capitalist korea against Russian communist aggression
That's how historically ignorant rightists are.

Communist Korea came before South Korea or any other Korea existed for that matter. Korea was under Japanese (i. e. non-capitalist) occupation at the time.

The division of Korea was a direct result of American intervention, under the leadership of Syngman Rhee.

Don't be so opinionated about something when you know jack shit about it!

>>60941275
>Venezuela is bad because they nationalized their oil industry
You mean like Norway did?

>$999
>Scores 3000 on geekbench, 4GB ram
>200 PPI 3:2 IPS touchscreen
>Non replaceable RAM, SSD, and battery
>Cannot run x86 programs out of the box

or

>$250 new
>Scores 3500 on geekbench, 4GB ram
>240PPI 3:2 IPS touchscreen
>Replaceable battery
>Cannot run x86 programs out of the box

Build quality is about the same, so is the battery life worth $750?

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>>60941100

Distributism is the only answer, anon.

>>60944766
I bought a Surface Pro 3 a few months after they released it and it has had heat issues since day 1. The fans they squeeze into them suck donkey balls and it is impossible to control them through software.

If a manufacturer makes it impossible for me to control the RPM of the fan due to locked down drivers I simply never buy from them again.

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>>60936463
Way to go, Microshit.

>>60946745
Lol pretty fun that you dont talk about soviet intervention which was much geater than americas, from eastern europe to aiding rebels in africa and south america and asia with china and other states but yes only american was imperalist both states where imperalist because it was a war of ideas commie

>>60936463
>iFixit grades MS Surface Laptop 0/10
yeah, this is the new norm of """"computing""""" hardware

planned obsolescence that you trash the second anything goes wrong

>>60936463

> make sure it works
> dip it in hot glue
> receive 100 yuan

>>60948183

No one here's defending communism or the Soviet Union. The fallacy you're employing in that post is a "tu quoque" fallacy.

The fact of the matter is: saying that Russian communists aggressed a capitalist Korea (like >>60939876 did) is simple historical revisionism.

Korea was under Axis occupation (so it wasn't capitalist), and then an internal movement called Dongnipgun (Liberation Army), of which Kim Il-sung was one of the leaders, started fighting back against the Japanese. They received Soviet assistance due to their communist ideology (obviously). Then, American puppet Syngman Rhee started the aggressions between the North and the South. There was never any Soviet aggression - aggressions started from the capitalist side.

Also, claiming that North Korea is a military threat (like >>60939031 did) is non-sense. They're just trying to defend themselves. They have always been completely open to peace talks, and one American president was even able meet personally with Kim Il-sung and negotiate an understanding. But then, that president's immediate successor ruined it all by restarting aggressions - for purely ideological reasons!

Conclusion: the capitalist ideology is just as dangerous as the communist ideology.

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>>60938772
It has worked out so well for all those other countries, why not

Delusional communists derail another thread from the comfort of their social-market capitalist society.

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>>60947278
Which is why people recommend the water cooled i7 surface pro 4.

sustained 3.2GHz during prime95 on all cores on a tablet is pretty noice imho.

>>60949355
Go back to bed, Eric S. Raymond. Your patches will never be accepted into the mainline kernel.

>>60940156
Lenovo yoga 370 without LTE is what people like you're looking for.
Easily upgradeable ssd and ram, can access everything easyly.
Otherwise Siemens fujitsu

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>>60938011
>Venezuela is not fucked up due to socialism, it's because of American imperialistic interventionism.

>>60941484
>/pol/ liking capitalism

>>60949834
Dumb animuposter.

Sexy device means no fix

what is the easiest laptop to fix?

>>60950252
anime fucking website

>>60940358
Surface tablets are botnet and overheat, iPads use a poorly scaled phone OS, and most Android tablets are outdated the day you buy them. Get a Nexus 9 or Pixel C tablet and install Lineage OS.

Throw away tech. Just like most cell phones. If you try to use your warranty they just chuck the unit into a dumpster and send you a new one. Few companies actually repair your shit and send the same unit back. Nintendo and Sony do with certain products. Google and MS throw your shit away.

>>60951406
AppleCare doesn't have this problem.

>>60951406
Why even bother though? Making those units disposable significantly drops production prices, so I'm all for it.

>inb4 muh enbironbend XDDDD
Fuck the environment.

>>60938085
factually incorrect

>>60936463
the alcantara keyboard is one of the worst ideas i have seen in a long while
that shit will get darker, and full of hands dirt in a matter of two months

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>>60938785
>>60938803
It used to be better

>>60939100
FUCK YOU FAGGOT. THEY USE THEIR OWN GNU/LINUX DISTRO IN COMMUNIST PARADISE. WHAT IS THERE NOT TO LIKE?

>>60938803

if those fags didn't have /pol/ then they would flood every other board with shit more than they do now

>>60955385
Alcantara is basically plastic fibers (polyester and polyurethane).

How would plastic get so dirty so fast? Doesn't plastic fiber basically repel anything?

>>60957208
>How would plastic get so dirty so fast?
I keep asking my Dualshock the very same question.

>>60957208
the thing is that you can't wipe it off
it is a fabric
a fabric you rest your sweaty palms on for hours
and you can't replace it or wash it

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>>60957208
what about all the spaces in the fiber for dirt and grime to collect and get stuck in

http://bgr.com/2017/05/05/surface-laptop-keyboard-dirt-alcantara/

>>60942797
Treat it nicely then, since if it breaks, there's nobody to fix it.

>>60957242
ewwww

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>>60936463
This is by far the worst laptop i have seen.

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>>60937889

Hello

>>60940347

having reflowed chips on laptops to restore life to them for faggots like you, please kindly sit your consumer-ass down in the corner and be humble.

Basically any and all Macbooks are about as anti-repairculture as possible. They're giant proprietary lumps of "don't touch me" that aren't so much as "challenging" to repair, as much as they are "annoying, unnecessarily over-engineered, and complicated for the sake for complicated". In some high-end luxury cars, upgrading the audio system requires relocating the original head-unit to a hidden location behind the dash, or under the trunk, to maintain a working A/C, and creating and running new Fiber Optic lines to do this. Which means learning to splice fiber optic cables, and doing so in a clean enough environment so as to not mess up the connection afterwards. This is still more practical to do, than nearly any repair on a modern Macbook, despite having to learn a one-off skill with specialized equipment and a specialized environment to do it with/in.

>>60939150
Go live there then
>>60957460
No tiene ñ

>>60949190
> Soviet Union didn't come close to invading the Korean peninsula during ww2 your the soviet revisionist. They had no right to occupy it.

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>>60960423
>they made a fucking laptop out of recycled carpet

>>60936463
It's disposable trash like styrofoam cups.

>>60960423
Gross, that would get so dirty with grease, dirt, and dust. Not to mention the linting it would go through after about of month of touching it with your palms.

Why do they make it non-repairable like a Phone anyways? The one thing that makes Macs shit regardless of price and they do the same.
WTF

>>60960639
>>60960447
>>60960423
sauce: https://www.microsoft.com/surface/en-us/support/performance-and-maintenance/clean-and-care-for-your-surface

>>60937958
Poor hardware selection. The only way to get an i7 with a big GPU is on PC, and some people choose Windows over Linux for that.

>>60960651
>>60960423
Sad thing is, they make luxury car interiors out of that shit. I guess it's for people who don't like using their products often or for more than 72 hours total.

It's basically suede so no amount of maintenance will keep it unfucked.

>>60937722
>Cancer sucks
>Choose aids instead
Fuck off.

>>60939001
Perhaps you should face the reality that latin america is a shithole because its filled with subhumans, simple as that.

>>60960687
My car seats are made of alcantara
but they are seats, and i don't use my bare naked ass to seat on them

having alcantara on anything that deals with skin grease is a big nono
pretty stupid decision

>>60939001
>Besides Cuba (which is, to the right-wing's disarray, the most developed country in Latin America)
Holy shit, this is some hardcore socialist delusion.

>>60960639
apple has made it acceptable to make products that are designed not to last

when this inevitably wears out and looks like shit, you are expected to simple replace it with the new model that will do the same thing

do not buy products like these, just don't do it

>>60937722
you're uisng guesses and exaggerations instead of hard facts to tr and sway people into your argument.
> I haven't compared
faggot.
>but I bet the SSD is worse than the similar priced macbooks anyway
measure your words before faffing your panties.

>>60938085
Your argument is trying to be ironic, but it really isn't

>>60941088
Don't lie, Pajeet.

>>60960677
Incorrect, however it is far more expensive to get a dedicated GPU and i7 in a Mac than PC equivalent. The best way would be to find a hackintosh build that suits your needs.

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>>60939552

>>60938085
WE

>>60957242
Do people just eat with their fingers and then rub it all over the laptop? Fucking nasty.

>>60942147
>Africa and the Discovery of America
Yeah no they didn't. Fuck off with your "We wuz kangz" shit argument.

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>People in /g/ are actually defending communism
Not surprised tbqh, free software enables ideological blunders like communism. You reap what you sow.

>>60963731
>Yeah no they didn't.
>Source: My ass.

>>60964328
Better than your shitty sources. People with the same retarded thoughts that ancient Egyptians were black

>>60937722
>Just get a macbook.
Literally the exact same chinkshit inside.

>>60938449
Wikileaks confirmed that the US has been trying to undermine meme faggot Venezuelan socialism since 2013, fuck off CIA nigger

>>60938674
Friendly reminder that Pinochet drove Chile to ruins and it wasn't until his meme Chicago fuckbois were replaced by faggot centrists that Chile fixed it's economy

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>>60936463
>Buy the specs you need when you get it
Wow, it's like magic. I know why people want upgradeability but you buy shit but these ultra super thin ultrabooks only look so good because they're designed not to be fucked with.

You cares about fixabilty in an ultrabook? If you cared about that shit you wouldn't be buying an ultrabook.

>>60964344
>https://historyofislam.com/the-african-and-muslim-discovery-of-america-before-columbus

Dozens of voyagers, explorers, and historian documented a lot of evidence shows that Columbus isn't actually the first to discover it.

Whether you like it or not, but most of the technology around you wouldn't be possible without Islam golden era.

>>60964646
>historyofislam.com
lol shit source. Vikings or the Chinese were the first but nobody is arguing Columbus, don't be retarded.

>>60964671
That just a site collecting the citations and facts if you bothered to read it, nigger.
Anyway, I don't give a shit whether you convinced or not, I bet you're one of those who believes the earth is flat.

And no additional discussion, as this is still a technology related board.

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Itt: /pol/tards who don’t know the difference between capitalism and blind consumerism

>>60964770
Fuck off, I'll discuss what I please. Don't be retarded, if I thought the earth is flat, how would both the chinese and vikings discover America?
Protip: they don't

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>click on a thread about shity business practices of Currysoft
>/pol/eddit everywhere
thanks for ruining the imageboard for everyone lads

>Surface laptop
Who gives a fuck? It's basically an expensive chromebook aimed at students. Entirely hipster garbage machine.

>>60957460
>Xiaomi Inc.[2] (Chinese Mandarin: [ɕjàumì] (About this sound listen), Chinese: 小米科技; pinyin: Xiǎomǐ Kējì, literally "millet technology";[3] English: /ˌʃiaʊˈmiː/ or /ʃiˌaʊˈmiː/) is a privately owned Chinese electronics company headquartered in Beijing.

the key phrase being "privately owned"

go back to Twitter or reddit

>>60957473
yeah that whole car analogy is a non-sequitor. You don't know shit about computer repair.

>>60964888
It's for rich people who don't give a fuck about technology or getting a good deal and just want a pretty machine that runs well. The Apple crowd

>>60965018
are you over 18 and work in technology? I'm asking this because nearly every dev at my company uses a MBP. When you're a grown up and your company buys your computers for you, you're not going to get a fucking T420. Also, windows fucking sucks.

>>60965037
>I'm asking this because nearly every dev at my company uses a MBP.
Some places make you buy things. My sister had to buy a Mac for her video editing job. Being forced to use a Mac doesn't mean shit, it's largely a remnant from a time when Macs were actually easier to use and offered exclusive features.

>>60964840
/pol/tards jump at the opportunity to defend microshit because all they do on their computers is frogpost and play vidya.

>>60965057
my company let's you pick your machine. Mostly everyone chooses whatever the newest MBP is; although there are a few autismos who opted for the Latitude instead

>>60965037
My company uses literally nothing but Dell computers. The occasional Surface Pro or HP elite book will show up. I've worked on at least a thousand new dell machines.

>>60965081
If you were offered a free computer why wouldn't you just take the most expensive one? If I had to choose between a MBP and a Latitude I'd choose to MBP just for the extra resell value.

>>60936463
It's consistent with other microsoft products like windows. Something failed on windows? just reinstall! Something failed with the Surface laptop? Just buy a replacement!

>>60965118
That's Apple though

>>60941088
Good work!, keep spreading bull... er, i mean facts to more potential customers. You may seem to have an unabated passion for technology so i guess you be be interested into a job as DEVELOPER EVANGELIST. Believe me, you're good at what you do. Allow yourself take this unique chance!

https://www.microsoft.com/northafrica/careers/positions/de.htm

>>60939031
OH NO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UsxAUyVet8A

>>60965102
Companies love Dell because of their warranty policy and customer service, not necessarily the quality of their product. That being said, their enterprise line of computers are the only Windows machines I'd buy with my own money.

>>60965126
You're not wrong but Microsoft wants to be like Apple and in this case they're doing Apple's job even better.

>>60965177
>Companies love Dell because of their warranty policy and customer service, not necessarily the quality of their product
You're forgetting the part where when you order a 1000 computers Dell cuts you a huge discount. Computers are a fucking tool, if you're spending four times as much on an ultrabook with less functionality it means your business is run by retards.

>>60965177
I'm just throwing in my experiences. You or the anon I was replying to mentioned that their company uses nothing but MBPs and that's not the same for all.

>>60936463
MicroPOO BTFO

>>60937965
>Venzuela is what happens when you think wasting money on social services is a good idea when you are wealthy, don't diversify your markets and have your main commodity reduce in price drastically. Basically Venezula is the end stage of every socialist endeavor
FTFY

>>60937825
kys degenerate

>>60939757
Oh, the one who contributes less should have higher standard of life, right? Like in capitalism?

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>>60937889

>>60957460
>Privately owned business
>socialist

>>60938803
Deleting /pol/ is like stirring a beehive: you think it would be a good idea untill they just make more beehives everywhere else

>>60965277

venezuela's problem was lack of market diversification, political ideology is irrelevant. if 90% of your economy is in a single market then no ideology will save you

>>60965350
I agree, but had Venezuela not been a welfare state where a sizable portion of the population is on social welfare of some sort, than the economic problems in Venezuela would still have been bad, but not to the extent that it's at now. It probably would've been a very bad recession if the welfare state in Venezuela had been done away with. Now it looks like there won't be Venezuela in 10 years time or at the very least a new regime is going to come into power.

>>60946703
nice logic you got there
you're a terrible shitposter.

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>Microsoft makes a piece of hot garbage that doesn't work and is apple-tier in design

Wow, what a shocker.

>>60965533
>is apple-tier in design
Haven't see Apple gluing rags to their palmrests yet.

>>60937684
Ironic thing is apples are actually pretty easy to fix. They have to be because it will break but they are easy.

>>60965146
>You should use my untested, unproven, unconfigured and with no warranty software!!!

Yes that's a great deal anon, here let me tell marketing and IT I bet they'll both get stiffies!

Surfaces are work-machines or facebook-machines (same they're for HR retards).

>>60940326
>Kill about 7 people a fucking year
>In a butthueg area
>EY EVIL KKKANIUUUULS111 KILL DA WHITE MAN NAO!!

>>60936463
>2256x1504
just when you thought it couldnt be worse than 1366x768

>>60966170
How's that worse exactly? They're both weird ass resolutions so you might as well go with the higher one.

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>>60937825
It is. Instead of buying a Surface I have the better choice of buying a superior Thinkpad. Now if this was communism I'd be forced at gunpoint to use a Stalinbook made from the finest stamped sheet metal and that's assuming I would be in a position in the government to warrant such a luxury good otherwise I'd be eating sawdust bread all day.

This thread is stupid. Computer parts are getting so small that they will never be repairable again. You'll put it in the atomizer and print a new one.

That said, you don't have to buy it.

I don't understand why people are talking about using the pen for note taking as a use case. Who the fuck would rather scribble on a screen than just type? That seems really retarded.

>>60939044
only 50000
doesnt seem like a big deal desu

>>60966741
50,000 targeted assassinations is a fucking lot, dude.

>>60957473
>reflowed
The nature of integration presents the issue where many laptops these days are essentially a SoC. There's nothing to upgrade or repair, you replace the (1/2 playing card sized) board and move on.

This isn't a plan to screw the consumer but simply the result of integration.

>>60966759
>Source
>NGOs
Fucking dropped.

>>60939044
>>60966759
We're Americans, we do what we want and if you don't like it you can kiss my ass.

>>60936463
Wow, not even a fucking apple would do that kind of shit. Just fuck.

>>60939671
Anglo fucked up middle east 99.9% out of the fear of expanding SU. Eventually it will come to bite their ass when they will be forced to either support Saudi Arabia and other shit states into infinity, or cut off themselves form middle east opening it up for russia yet again.

>>60966759
It is a lot but it's quite small compared to the literal millions that died during the political genocide in Cambodia (2 million causalities) under Pol Pot.

>>60939141
>Venezuela is shit due to American intervention
It's shit because their leaders can't into economics and actually diversifying their markets, in case the prices of oil go down. hell, even Russia and Saudi Arabia, which were also affected by the same drop in oil, managed to go into different market sectors unlike Venezuela.

>>60938897
That literally describes your average Antifag or tumblristra really more than it does NEETsocs

>>60940326
You mean the Spanish Inquisition that lasted 400 years, had 150,000 people charged and only 3000 put to death in all those 400 years?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spanish_Inquisition#Death_tolls

Or the Witch Hunts in modern day Germany that killed 30000 in 300 years?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt#Execution_statistics

>>60936463
Jesus christ you better hope you have this thing under warranty otherwise you're 100% fucked

>>60964888
This shit shouldn't be aimed at students. It's expensive, I can't just throw it in my bag, I have to take care of it like a baby while I have to study for the next calculus test. Completely garbage.

>>60965350
Communism is never the problem. No one knows why it hasn't worked elsewhere (except for killing people and making everyone but politicians poor) but it's never the problem.

>>60936463
Honestly I feel like this is the risk you take buying an ultra thin/light device. Get a regular laptop if this is a concern. Personally I wouldn't get this, but mostly because I personally think it completely goes against Microsoft's original philosophy and design for the surface brand.

What a tragedy. The fact that Microsoft soldered the SSD on Surface Pro is a bigger middle finger.

>>60968673
Communism is irrelevant to the problem. Sometimes it's part of it, sometimes it isn't, but it's not consequential. What's consequential is that your shitty country has cheap labour and cheap exports to make profit easier to acquire for big corporations. If you don't like this, then they send in the guns.

>>60938772
And when "true communism" fails, all of a sudden it won't be "true" communism

>>60968712
>I personally think it completely goes against Microsoft's original philosophy and design for the surface brand.
What? Copy Apple, badly? Bandwaggon-jumping again. Give up on phones and try to make some money back on a tablet that nobody wants?

>>60936463
I like the girl.

>>60971075
Considering Apple's philosophy is copy Android badly, it's lose-lose for Microsoft unfortunately.

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