Intel Core i9-7900X (Skylake-X) Review

Nobody cares about a 3 year old Xeon

They will still sell!

>>60927994
housefire tier

>>60927994
so OC'ing a 1800x from stock to 4GHz adds a 90w premium on powerdraw?
INSANE

>>60927994
2007 called they want their house fire xeons back

>>60928049
400 mHz= 90w????
what the fudge

>>60928055
u do realize it's perfectly in like with the ryzen frequency wise?
>>60928015

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>>60927994
>400 watts overclocked i9

>>60927994
This is what Intel gets for rushing this shit 2 quarters early.

It's like netburst 2.0

8-core 6GHz i10 with a TDP of 500W when?

>>60927994
>10cores/20threads
>378W

What a fucking disgrace. You NEED Liquid cooling for this bitch.

>>60928096
AMD doesn't need GHz overclock meme to get good performance.

That said fuck running a 200+ watt cpu

IT
IS
FUCKING
SLOWER
THAN
BROADWELL-E


AND IS A NUCLEAR REACTOR TO BOOT

ENOUGH OF THIS SHIT I'M BEYOND FUCKING MAD, CLEARLY THE LACK OF SHARED L3 CACHE HAS TAKEN ITS TOLL.

FUCK INTEL, I'M GONNA GO MASTURBATE

>>60928066
Leaving the voltage sweet spot. Wattage will rise exponentially. Ryzen runs best at around 1.1v(?) and something like 3-3.2Ghz.

>>60927994
>this is the 10 core

I can't wait to see that 18 core in action!

>>60928309
you can have 3.6GHz on a golden chip at 1.1

>>60928316
NUCLEAR REACTOR TIER!

>>60928316
700 watts cmon

>>60928316
>>60928344
>draws less power than ryzen per core per frequency
>nuclear reactos

pajeets pls

>>60928368
>per frequency

lel, good one, anon.

>>60928368
And then you woke up.
OC power is one thing, but even stock it's fucking garbage.

>>60927994
Nuclear firestorm-tier

>>60928327
If only we could all win the silicon lottery.

>>60928368
>Being this bad at math

>>60928475
At 4GHz:

>i9 7900x system= 26.7 WxC (watt per core)
>ryzen 1800x system= 32.4 WxC

>>60928601
lol

>>60928601

Lmao, try not to be retarded next time.

>at 4GHz
Lol

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>>60928637
what's so funny friend

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>>60928601
jesus christ man

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>>60928667
intel

>>60928637
>>60928651
>>60928681
And the 7900x is gonna absolutely pulverize ryzen at same clock speeds, with BETTER power efficiency

>>60928015
>measured from wall
>GTX 1080

still it is absurd for just taking the CPU.

>>60928703
ryzen getting soundly beaten by i5s what's new

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>>60928720

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>>60928720
hmmm-huh

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>>60928774
>ayyymd fan
>pajeet
>homosexual
>overwatch player

wew lad

>>60928805
When will AMD drop their 12 core? Power consumption aside, clearly Intel has an advantage currently with more cores in these workloads.

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>>60927551
>reaching 100°C on water
b-b-b-b-b-b--b-b--b-b-b--b-b-b-b------bbbbuutt solder is crack and mayonnaise™ is spreading and and and and and FUCK YOU AMDRONES

http://hexus.net/tech/reviews/cpu/107017-intel-core-i9-7900x-14nm-skylake-x/

Much more balanced conclusion

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>>60928906
Poor pajeets

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>>60928953
It's armed, all right.

>>60928953
>Cutting out the rest of the conclusion

"Wouldn't it be nice if the world's leading chip giants launched new processor series that worked perfectly and made implicit sense?

That's the hope, but having witnessed AMD's Ryzen arrive with teething issues ranging from memory support to hesitant in-game performance, it is frustrating to find that Intel's Core X-Series isn't immune to certain missteps, either.

X299 motherboards don't appear to be quite ready, there are question marks surrounding the Skylake-X processors due later this year, and at the lower end of the Core X spectrum, Kaby Lake-X is nothing short of puzzling.

Plenty of reason for discord among enthusiast users, yet look past the confusion and you may see cause for optimism. The world's first Core i9 processor, the 7900X, is ultimately a 10-core powerhouse offering excellent IPC performance and outstanding multi-core prowess in a single $999 chip armed with plenty of overclocking headroom. Said ingredients make it an automatic choice for power users seeking the ultimate PC experience, and the chip's benchmarking potential makes for a fitting debut of the Core i9 brand.

Bottom line: the price tag remains a stumbling block and software optimisations are needed, but anyone willing to splash a thousand bucks on a new CPU need look no further than the Intel Core i9-7900X. Over to you, Threadripper."

Yes it's powerful. But not much more powerful than a 6950X and requires a new motherboard platform to boot. On new system builders may contemplate it but Threadripper looks more promising. Personally I would wait and see and get the best deal.

>>60928987
Why does the 1800X exist? The 1700X is like 4% slower and is far more efficient and cheaper.

>>60928987
>>>60928601

>>60929023
>look no further than the Intel Core i9-7900X

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>>60929027

>>60928800
7800X 6 cores / 12 threads = 140W

my 7 year old 980X has 6 cores and 12 threads and 130W at about the same stock speed...

and it's not like it's twice as fast really
wtf intel

>>60929024
Why do any of them exist? Intel equivalents are 10-15% faster and are comparably efficient and cheaper.

>>60929059
For now. Get ready for buttrape.

>>60929123
it's gonna be ryzen on a langer scale.
Ergo shit performance but slightly cheaper than intel and all AYMDD fanbois gonna troll endlessly

>>60927551
How many PCI Lanes does the 7900x has?

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>>60929112
Yeah, about that.

>>60929112
>Intel equivalents are 10-15% faster
HAHAAH
>comparably efficient
AHAHAHAHAAHAHA
>and cheaper
HAHAAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAHAAHAH

>>60929147
>higher core count intel less efficient than lower core count AMD in a benchmark that runs all cores

Oh just kill me is Intel outta their minds?

>>60929145
44

>>60929147
Hey, at least it's more efficient than Broadwell..

>>60929147
I fucking love the 1700

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>>60928833
Sure thing mr goldstein sr

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>>60928800
>7920X-7980XE disco inferno
>TBC

Pottery

>>60928720
(You)

>>60929222
needs to be priced at 250$

>>60929285
Intel's 8 cores are $800+

i9s require $300 motherboards

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>>60927551
reading though the review:
>well that's pretty good for a 8 core and...
>notice the X in 7900X
>oh shit

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>netburst 2.0

>>60929300
But that's a 10 core.

>>60929299
Not anymore
7820X is now $500

>>60929325
On what fucking planet?

>>60927994
NETBURST 2.0

>>60929333
This one
The i9-7820X is now $300 cheaper than the 6900K

>>60928316
Burn the whole planet to the ground

>>60929354
it's the sweet sweet spot for gaymeing

>the new 2500k ladies and getns and traps

>Two reviews come out the same day
>Before NDA
>Favoring Intel while trying to pretend not to

Hmm. It really grapples my grapenuts.

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>>60929384
>>>/pol/

>>60929383
It's the sweet sweet spot for housefires.

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>>60927551
>However, temperatures were definitely a concern with Cinebench and Terragen pushing 100°C with our 240mm AIO liquid cooler.

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>>60929225
Hahaha! Crylake-X DOA!

>>60929354
The 8 core is $600, dude.
That's not even counting the fucking X299 cost

>>60929325
Yeah but you need a $300 lga 2066 HEDT motherboard. Meanwhile we're already getting $50 AM4 motherboards for R7s.

>>60929403
Fuck off. It's really obvious Intel fed them those chips to try and steal AMD's thunder.

>>60929285
intel's failed abortions need to be priced at $100

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>>60929423
>bulldozer all over again
SAD

Firelake-X

>>60929433
this

>>60929420
Wow, that's pretty fucking hot

>>60929460
Kikeripper is in august anyway.

>>60929460
yea it was those scary evil JOOOOOOOS amirite

>>>/pol/

>>60929420
>pushing 100°C with our 240mm AIO liquid cooler
AHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHAAHAAHAHAAHAAHAHAHAHAHH

>>60928066
I remember seeing a graph where Ryzen past 3.6 GHz really starts to spike in power usage.

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>>60929462
>20% better performance for $700 more
yeah looks like amd is done for

>>60929433
DOA
O
A

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>>60929325
Citation needed

If those i9 motherboards are not less than $200 they can forget it.

>not using liquid nitrogen to cool your i9

>>60929658
>not using liquid helium
>2017

>>60927994
PRESHOTT 2.0 LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO

>>60929658
>not using liquid water
>y=2017

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>>60927551
THIS IS WHAT I LIKE TO SEE A FUCKING CPU WAR. I WANT BETTER PERFORMANCE FUCK AMD AND INTEL. BRING YOUR BEST FAGGOTS!

>>60929658
>not buying a slave to sit on it and act as a heatsink

>>60929736
less pcie lanes
MOAR cores
MOAR tdp
MOAR price

intel is literally the 2012 amd

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>>60929763

>>60929806
It also excels at burning down your fucking house. 370w through the socket come the fuck on.

>>60929763
Well everyone says this is LONGER BIPELINE 2.0

Complete failure

>>60929806
99% of the benches says otherwise

>>60929806
>megatasking
It's like this guy is not even denying he's shilling.

>>60929831
Shit, I know of boards that have burned for having 300W+ going through the socket.

>>60929831
Come on intel you can reach 666W. I believe in you.

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>>60929870

>>60929736
There's no CPU war, intel is a complete failure.

I know this is a shitposting thread but I have a question. Do people really care about power consumption? I see a big deal made of it everywhere when talking about CPUs.

How much impact does it have in practice?

>>60929999
they care only when amd is worse at it

when intel reaches a tokamak level of tdp its all fine

>>60929999
From the OP's link:
>However, temperatures were definitely a concern with Cinebench and Terragen pushing 100°C with our 240mm AIO liquid cooler.

100ºC with a fucking 240mm rad... come the fuck on! If that pump fails the CPU will literally catch fire a few seconds later.

>>60929999
Power draw = temperature = fermi

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>>60929806
>Is that your wallet opening I hear?
Oh sorry no that was my mouth

>>60930069
>fermi = 5800 ultra
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qspdnAYiiug&t=60s

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>>60929999
They do because it limits how much you can cool your processor.

An R7 1700 can be cooled with a stock cooler just fine while an i7-6900K require a high-end $300 water cooler.

>>60929999
Intel is now THE NEW KING OF INFERNAL HOUSEFIRES

>>60930089
It doesn't stop at just cooling capacity, physics dictates that energy in = energy out, so the extra 60~100w has to go somewhere, so the whole system will run hotter and your room as well. And then you also have to multiply the extra power draw by the efficiency coefficient of your PSU, so tack another 10~15% extra wattage on top of that depending on the supply's rating.

Is it maybe a good time to buy AMD stock prior to threadripper?

>>60930170
You mean prior to EPYC? You have 4 days left.

>>60927551
>$1000 chip
>they still jew you for 5 cents of solder
>temperatures were at 100c usi g a 240mm single-block watercooler

Wahahahaha, wahahahahahaha, AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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>>60927994
Jesus
FUCKING
Christ

>>60930056
>>60930069
>>60930089
>>60930155

Thanks gents. So it seems like if I wanted to keep reasonable temps under load (rendering) that would limit how far these chips could be overclocked, even with a 240.

>>60929999
you might have not read it, but the review said it reaches 100C with a 240mm AIO. This might melt the socket, if not, then this power consumption will really push the VRMs to it's limits and will explode after extended use.

>>60929999
>Do people really care about power consumption?
some people do
I personally don't
it's the 100°C with 240mm AIO that makes this completely unappealing
fucking mayonnaise

>>60927551
>>60927994
POOTEL STUTTERFIRES

>>60930170
Don't buy AMD stock, it's a rollercoaster if you don't have money.
You won't lose unless you're retarded, but it's really not for the faint of heart.

It's so fucking volatile and sporadic, it's almost hilarious.

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>>60930352
>filename

>>60930339
Not if you fell for the Ryzen hype a year ago. Its low point was even less than $2.

>>60929999
i was about to say that the power draw itself would be a concern to at least some of the hedt market as an alternative to a proper xeon server solution but then i realized that this shit doesnt even support ecc memory

>>60927994
Is this Intel contribution to US fusion program?

WAIT
FOR
BIOS
UPDATES


>platform based on a 7 year old core needs performance EFI updates
Lmao

>>60930243
ye, just save your hard earned money an R7 1700. The stock cooler is good enough even if you force the cpu to stay at 3.7GHz 24/7.

Many have even reported stable temps at 4GHz in prime95 with the stock cooler albeit with undervolting.

>>60930508
>4ghz
>undervolted

Get the flip out of here anon

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>>60930570
tis true though. Many anons have reported successful 4GHz OC @ 1.3v or 1.35 on the R7 1700

They're probably 1% of all the R7 1700 users though.

>>60930622
You're safe under 1.45V.

Though personally, I'm more of a efficiency and silence guy with small cases using titanium rating fanless PSUs so a 1700X or 1700 at stock would do me much better than any overclocking chips.

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>>60930622
I'd be happy undervolting it @3.7-8 gHZ desu

>>60927551
>>However, temperatures were definitely a concern with Cinebench and Terragen pushing 100°C with our 240mm AIO liquid cooler.
>>However, temperatures were definitely a concern with Cinebench and Terragen pushing 100°C with our 240mm AIO liquid cooler.


What the fuck

>>60930153
Holy fuck, now we know what caused that giant apartment fire in London this week.

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>>60930713

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>>60930713
10/10

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>>60930713

>>60930821
>>60930756
>>60930741
Lauhging at the suffering of others... AMDfags are the real scum

>Please note that we have sourced multiple CPUs from multiple sources for the purpose of this review. No hardware was supplied by Intel.
It looks like they weren't under NDA to begin with.

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>>60930689

DELET THIS

and buy intel, goyim

>>60930847
Get gassed you filthy kike.

>>60929433

so it's 20-30% faster clock for clock than the 1800x, has better OC potential and is the same price

sounds like a good deal, thanks based 'only hire indians' amd for finally making intel slash prices

>>60930913
>so it's 20-30% faster clock for clock than the 1800x,
What cloud did you fall out of? Skylake-X actually regressed in IPC compared to Broadwell-E
At least according to these tests

>>60930913
>100C on 280mm AIO
JUST

>>60930936
I'm looking at these tests really confused.

Client workloads are showing the inefficiencies of the new cache structure and higher latency IMC, this is not fucking good.
Skylake-X seems to be a server core first and foremost

>>60930959
It's much worse as a server core compared to Zen. What the fuck were they thinking?

>>60930913
all true, except the 1800x is 450$ vs 600$.
System minimum comes at 530-550 vs 800-850$.
An 1700 system would come at 350-380$ so literally half.
Not saying the 8c skylake-X isn't amazing value for money.

>>60931014
It's a housefire at these clocks, maybe it's really efficient at 3GHz just like zen?

I mean it fucking has to unless Intel wants to sell joke CPUs to people who actually know what they're buying

>>60931045
>really efficient
28c has 2.3 base clock. Anon it's over. They fucked up.

>>60927994
Did Intel outdone 9370?

>>60930913
>it's 20-30% faster clock for cloc
no. not even slightly.
>better OC potential
only if you delid, have a custom loop and are fine with 250W CPU power consumption

For any normal user it doesn't OC better than Broadwell.

>>60930940
240mm, although frankly the extra size would at best drop the temps a couple degrees and a few db less noise.

>>60931060
They've outdone fucking PPC 970.

>>60929420
Steam cooling when?

>>60931081
forgot all about these. IBM fucked up so badly with those

Oh wow, and people telling me this isn't a kneejerk to Zen, they literally clocked it to the moon and hoped for the best, as if people will ignore the fucking elephant in the room that's on fire.

I can already see this.

>some gaymen manchild buys this crap with his mommies credit card
>buys the cheapest X299 mobo with Z270-tier VRM or worse
>TIME TO PLAY MUH GAY
>*snap*
>*crackle*
>*pop*
>[magic smoke intensifies]
>......
>FUCKING AMD!!!!

>>60931152
The all core 4ghz is actualy impressive, but I'm wondering if these are golden reviewer samples given to shittech and hexus. They both say pretty much the same thing, both hit 100deg and never mention anything about the chips losing to bw-e. Bit tech didn't even give benchmark by benchmark comments only stating what each one did.

Isn't the 10core the small xeon die anyway with the 12-18cores being on a larger die

>>60931227
Stock clocks are impressive I agree, but at what cost? These thing suck down power like a pig even at stock.

LCC is 10 cores, MCC is 18 or 20 cores, unknown
currently.
Anything over that is HCC

>>60929112
>cheaper
Why would you lie on the Internet, saying Intel is cheaper is like saying liquid water is dry.

How the FUCK did they fuck up so badly?

>>60931352
More bingbus :DDDDDDDDDD instead of new architecture. That's how

>>60931227
It'll be impressive for people with full custom loops that cost more than most people's PCs.
Most enthusiasts are comfortable running even high-end chips under air coolers like the D15, which is generally the preferred route for a 24/7 workstation. I would honestly not trust the Intel chip to run unattended overnight with any cooler attached.

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>>60931382
It's using KNL mesh, which isn't all that different actually, pic related, lmao
But these lower core parts never had issues with the ringbus, that's only for MCC/HCC chips.

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>>60927994
>400 watts

What about performance? When was intel last perfromance breakthough? The fucking 2nd gen i?

>>60931406
You know how a lot of laptops get 10+ hours of battery life now?

That was Intel.

>>60931352
CPU market is slow, you can't mount a response in under 2-3 years.
You can only compete by lowering cost(Intel won't touch its margins) or increasing clockspeed(what Intel did now leading to hilarious return of Thermilake)

>>60931435
Did you come back to be laughed at again? I admire your persistence.

>>60931435
>castrated dual core ULV chips
THANK YOU BASED INTEL.

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Fire for our Intel

>>60931435
No that was manufacturers cramming 80Wh batteries in a laptops and 15W TDP chips. AMD also has 15W TDP chips with similar multi-core performance. However intel bribed OEMs into using their chips.

>>60931352
They have their own superior process. Because of this AMD developed the technology for split dies. This gave AMD the ability to have smaller dies which reduces the risk of an error from rendering the CPU useless. Intel is required to make a larger die to house more cores thus increasing the risk of an error rendering a CPU unusable. Intel would require astronomical yields to beat AMD.

>>60931460
Make Gael hold an i9 in that picture

>>60931435
Yeah, but i dont care about laptops. Mine has a battery that last 10 hours but cant fucking finish a proper physics simulation because it times out due lack of processing power.

I care about desktop for heavy duty usage

>>60931486
Nope. 10k mAh wouldn't have gotten you 10 hours before ULV processors. That much battery would easily get you 20 hours now.

>>60931583
>ULV
Stop shilling castrated abortions.

>>60931629
Those castrated abortions are in pretty much every single laptop.

>>60930622
>people overclocking ryzens
>you bought a 1600 and rams are unstable at fucking 2400mhz
feels really bad man
when are they going to fix this ddr4 clock bullshit, and yes i already have agesa 1.0.0.6

>>60931657
Thank you illegal business practices

>>60931435
>i7 with 2 cores
yep that was intel

>>60931386
Hexus said they used a d15 untill their attempts at core meltdown. Without this aggressive turbo these chips might be pretty efficient.

Anyway these things just miss the mark in everyway for my job's workloads.

>anything we do on games only needs stable 30fps
Literally anything else is enough for that and cheaper.
>cpu rendering
Can build two 1700 render boxes for close to the cost of this cpu alone, which will then probably use less power as well
>gpu rendering
Will want more pcie lanes/sockets, thread ripper is going to win here, still hoping on that 8 core 64lane ripper for this stuff.

>>60931665
No idea, others are getting stable 3200MHz ram with their Ryzens now.. maybe you have a bad chip on a stick?

>>60931752
i've seen people with rams that have the same memory controller with 3400+mhz stable clocks
maybe msi is just shit, i have the b350 pc mate

>>60931688
>New carrizo chips from amd?
>Gimp with single channel memory.

I liked all the cheap chinese atom and core-m stuff (I like passive laptops, fite me), but trying to find anything with any of amd's lower power stuff is impossible.

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>>60927551
#TooSoon

>>60931815
>100°C with a liquid cooler
What in God's name has intel done?

>>60931994
They awakened the NetBurst.

>>60927551
>Have these guys broken NDA?
Apparently, they had no NDA, it wasn't loaned from Intel, they aren't saying who loaned it to them to cover their asses.

>>60931994
I'll tell you what they haven't done, put solder between the chip and heatspreader.

>>60929493
Yeah, then it hits the voltage wall pretty fast as you get to 4ghz

>>60932048
Neither solder, nor termal compound, nor anything at all. I dont doubt they made it a vacuum to make it harder for the heat to flow out.

>>60932074
Was their intention to use them as portable bombs so they can remotely detonate them?

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>>60931583
>>60931657
AMD has them too. And even though they did better in many benchmarks you never saw them any more than a few tablets nobody ever heard of because the OEMs were being paid to use intel atom trash.

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Reminder to praise Nazi science from IBM.

>>60932089
Lenovo has an assortment of A8 and A10 based laptops, they had extremely poor battery life, garbage performance, and nobody bought them.

It has absolutely nothing to do with the popularity of the ULV and I don't see that highlighting AMD's failed product puts Intel in any kind of negative light.

>>60928049
>90w premium on powerdraw
I'm not really shocked but I just stopped overclocking in the days of the original AMD Athlon and haven't bothered since so I don't know exact figures today. But it's always been the case that you very quickly get diminishing returns at a exponentially rapidly increasing power/thermal cost when you overclock.

It doesn't mean much to me, though, I'll take a stock clocked stable system over something marginally faster that can and will crash randomly.

>>60928218
Yeah, this whole Core 9 line-up is stupid.

> panic when AMD actually releases something
> slap together a line random slightly modified old CPUs with housefire-tier thermals and power-usage

just skip this crap

>>60929420
>servicing pc
>have to call a plumber in

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>>60931323
>liquid water
Oh they make water in liquid form now.

>>60927551
So why doesn't Jewtel properly solder their chips?

Compared to the laughable cost, this shit is going to cost them a metric shitton if their new chips are getting known as housefires, aka a PR nightmare.

>>60931994
Well a CLC anyways. But yeah it looks like a train wreck

>>60931323
Funny thing, there is no liquid water for intel at fucking 100℃

>>60927551
AMD btfo

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>>60932159
>Lenovo has an assortment of A8 and A10 based laptops, they had extremely poor battery life, garbage performance, and nobody bought them.
Because they were being paid to use intel chips. To hide the conspiracy they made half baked AMD powered laptops with small batteries and abhorrent cooling.

>It has absolutely nothing to do with the popularity of the ULV and I don't see that highlighting AMD's failed product puts Intel in any kind of negative light.
Alright look, you know how I know the whole OEM thing was going on? Because I bought an AMD laptop from HP for a cousin of mine as a gift.

A few months later, he complained about poor performance and terrible battery life. At the time I had an intel i3 laptop that was good enough and whatnot. Anyway I told him to trade laptops because I'm a nice person.

Right off the bat I noticed the terrible performance and battery life so I started poking around. The thing was INFESTED with bloatware my i3 laptop did not have. I also noticed that the fan would spin up to max in a few minutes of browsing youtube so I dusted the vent port and fan. It didn't do squat so then I removed the heatsink to find excessive gunky paste under the heatsink with a crusty outer edge. Finally I also noticed it sported a 28Wh battery while my i3 laptop had a 48Wh battery.

So I installed a fresh windows 7 os and cleaned the thermal paste with alcohol and applied a dot of AS5.

The result was significantly better performance and the fan barely sped up when I browsed youtube. Battery life also slightly improved.

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>>609325

>>60932581
I also got an AMD laptop for the memes. I confirm that its garbage. I get like 2 hours of crappy performance and then it wants more power. AMD laptops are so far a fucking scam to be honest.

>>60932731
Yes but look at the battery capacity. Mt i3 has almost 50Wh but my cousin's AMD laptop that I now own only has 28Wh. Don't you find that suspicious?

Because yeah I barely get 1 hour and a half out of the AMD laptop I currently have but it has to make due with a smaller battery.

Single core performance isn't the same but with things like chrome and video encoders than can use up to 128 cpu cores efficiently you can't tell the difference.

>>60932731
Make like a Jew and gas yourself

>>60927551
Let's see how it fairs when drivers and new bios come out.
Ryzen was shit before new bios updates

>>60932987
Does that BIOS update include a tank of LN2 and a truckful of lead-acid batteries?

>>60932877
Your analogies using watt hours are flawed because it isn't an actual measurement of battery capacity. If you weren't a dumbass that bought AMD laptops you would probably understand a trivial point like that.

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>>60933264
>Your analogies using watt hours are flawed because it isn't an actual measurement of battery capacity.
>If you weren't a dumbass that bought AMD laptops you would probably understand a trivial point like that.
Hmmm, I see why they call you the clown of /g/.

Filtered.

>>60929999
Nice quads.
It's only important because you have to cool it somehow. In this case you have to delid (there is no other way) and get a 240mm AIO cooler at least.

So it's not hard or anything, but Intel really could have used solder for fucking once. I mean...delidding 1000$+ CPUs... jesus fuck

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>>60931752
>read motherboard supported ram
>buy supported ram
>profit?
>>60931772
pic related

I honestly don't give a fuck about temps or power usage.
My custom loop can quell a house fire
If the performance gets better as the bios matures, I'll pick one up

>>60934301
>My custom loop can quell a house fire
Not if the problem is between the IHS and CPU die, it can't

>>60934323
There is at least a point of benefit: with a greater die, you have bigger service area, so it will transfer heat more distributed, not like 7700K, which is a tiny chip. Even with liquid metal, once you pass 1.35v on 7700K thermal transfer becomes problematic due to the smaller area.

>>60933264
>Your analogies using watt hours are flawed because it isn't an actual measurement of battery capacity
Retarded tripfag, genius shitpost

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>>60928368
>per frequency
Grasping at straws now are we? You should know better than that anon

>>60928800
>TDP: 140W
>draws nearly 400w under load

>>60935123
TDP =/= power consumption
------------
Thermal
Design
Power

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>>60930913
>same price
>$600 + $300 mobo MINIMUM
>same price
lol no get lost intel pajeet

Where were you when intel was kill?

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>>60929423
>>60929225
>10 Intel cores at 4.6GHz losing to 12 AMD cores at 3.6GHz

IT'S BENTIUM BIPELINES ALL OVER

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>>60929285
what did he mean by this?

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>>60927994
>>60927994

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>>60929423
>ignoring the first bar at 0

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>>60930689
DELETE THIS NOW GOYIM

MUH SHEKELS!

SHREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>60935660
>Skylake WITH NEW HAT
>coffeelake.jpg

>>60929023
>The world's first Core i9 processor
Why call it a worlds first?

When apple release the iphone 8 will is be 'the worlds first iphone 8'?

>>60927994
Jesus fucking Christ.

>>60929420
Semen cooled CPU

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>>60931435
>10+ hours of battery life now
Using Sysmark maybe?

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>>60933264
>>60933368
I love seeing someone get btfo in real time.

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>>60935878
>>60935660
over 9000 hours in msbaint

>>60935207
I understand, but people on this board seem to confuse the two a lot so its very deceptive

>intel 2017

https://youtu.be/LTnq268y2ms?t=1m27s

>>60933264
LMAO, YOU CAN'T BE THIS FUCKING RETARDED

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Think it will take 1.55v?

>>60929112
A sheckel for the good goy.

>>60928327
My chip will do that but refuses(on my current bios) to go above 3.7 unless I set the voltage high as fuck, go figure.

>>60931248
MCC is 18c, there's a dieshot floating around of it and you can easily see them.

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>>60937224

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>>60931815
>100 on a liquid loop

BRAVO
R
A
V
O

>>60931994
insulated the die from the heatspreader

>>60932561
inb4 20 threads a day shilling intel's new phase-change cooling technology

>>60938654

intel supports delidding

AMD doesnt

what now faggot

>>60937018
Think your house is fireproofed?

>>60938671
it would cost them millions to extend the warranty to delidding accidental damages

>>60938671
no need to delid if the job was done properly the first time

Why are you complaining, hydrogen fusion has finally become available for everybody.

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>>60938735
>seal its secrets on a CPU
>tfw fusion for everyone is still 20 years away

>>60938770
fusion is a meme, it doesn't exist

>>60938889
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fusor

>>60938910
that's called a lamp with a funky colored bulb anon

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>>60930689

DELID THIS

>>60930622
My 1700 can't even boot at 4Ghz, needs 1.319V for 3.8Ghz and 3.9Ghz is not stable with 1.4V. Don't know why I went with AMD, Ryzen still has plenty of issues. Hopefully Zen2 won't be trash.

>>60939642
1.45V is safe voltage.
Though you failed the silicon lottery, tough luck man.

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>>60939668

Robert Hallock disagrees. ANYONE who is going to be overclocking ryzen should watch this video as it gives some interesting info for upper limits on many parts of the chip (including how much impudence you can go for ram).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZgpHTaQ10k

>>60927551
Who the fuck actually buys these $1000 processors?

>>60939739
Dude, I've ran Intel chips close to 1.5V for years, you'll be fucking fine, both AMD and ASUS recommend you don't exceed 1.45V on Ryzen

>>60939739
Did you try with Pstates? Set 0 and 1 to as high voltage as you deem usable.

That way the entire chip won't be running max voltages all the time.
And by stock XFR exceeds that 1.45V, so you'll be fine.

>>60939749
Nobody since they're also pretty shit.

>>60927994
PLS DELET

>>60930056
it won't, throttle + emergency power cut

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>>60927551
Intel customers "enjoying" Skylake-X.

>>60927994
this is fake

would you mind deleting this?

>>60938889
Fusion works, now it's only a matter of scale.

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>>60927924
Just like the last time Intel released a CPU for twice the price and ~10% more performance.

>>60933264
>whatthours are not a measure of battery capacity
Here in a third world shithole you learn this shit in school when you are ~15-16 years old
Is this retard 12 y.old or something? What's his problem? I see nothing but the stupidest posts from him all across the board

>>60927551
>Have these guys broken NDA?

they also broke fire safety records by running them

>>60944595
cant imagine what will happen when the r3 comes

>>60946714

Intel saw the FX-9590 And said "We need to make an entire line of CPUs just like that only hotter and more power consuming!"

If you're not sold on AND yet and you're not waiting for coffee lake you are a failure of a tech enthusiast.

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>>60946789

I'm honestly amazed Intel has managed to beat the 9590 - that was a chip that basically existed as a proof of concept as to what bulldozer should've been perofrmance wise if everyone involved hadn't fucked it up. Still 220w is no joke to cool and with the extra density of housefire-X I bet the top core count models are basically impossible to cool at sensible clocks withotu exotic cooling. There is no way you arep ushing an 18 core Intel chip to 4ghz without LN2.

>>60927994
Based Intel forcing people to use liquid cooling instead of blowing air into it like fucking Neanderthals.

>>60947034
Right now it seems the sales pitch is to sell it as having single core speed comparable to 7700K, without mentioning silicon lottery, price, power usage and meltdown tier temps.

>>60947114
Until you find out L3 got halved while L2 and memory latencies have jumped up considerably, leading to performance regression in a number of tests against Broadwell-E

>>60947179

My personal conspiracy theory is the change in cache structure is because Intel wants to push AVX2 HARD in the coming months/years to 1) pull away from ryzen and 2) make another attempt at fending off Nvidia.

Plus it is becomnig clear their ringbus simply isn't going to scale like they need so this new cache setup (victim L3 yo) along with their fabric is the same route AMD took to enable core scaling. The real interesting part will be if Intel goes for a modular approach like AMD has or stick to their monolithic dies.

>>60947356
no one will use avx2 they know that
also intel can pull this shit only till zen2 arrives
and what attempt to fend off nvidia? nvidia wont even think to come even close to the cpu territory

>>60947109
blowing ice into it?

>>60947436
He meant Teslas, which directly compete with AVX512 in HPC

>>60946770
Can someone attempt to? why are the r3's that big of a deal? 4 cores for less cash? an even bigger lottery for CCX with larger caches?

>>60947494
Because they're 1 CCX chips, meaning their IPC is higher than any current Ryzen product.

>>60947528
how does having exactly 1CCX result in more IPC?

>>60947544
No inter-thread communication penalty.

>>60947544
no infinity fabric to mess around
although IF mess has been solved since agesa 1.0.0.6 but anyways

>>60929225
>Cinema 4 suite
this really activates my almonds

>>60947571
>>60947579
I see. i wonder how will it be for Ryzen APUs since it's one CCX and a graphics core inside.

>>60947602
I guess with 95% certainty that R3's are the APUs with graphics disabled.
Or they're just the APUs

>>60947602
ryzen mobile and ryzen apus are something keller got involved with...

expect to see A LOT of sandbagging with them mainly because nvidia wont have a single answer to battle them

>>60947602

Depends on how insane AMD is with their cut down vega for the igpu. HBCC is where the real magic will be which may or may not use infinity fabric for communication. Still for an APU HBCC is the important part.

I'm really astounded at AMD's ability to not take advantage of its IP.

Where's that 6+8 core APU with 2000+ shaders? AMD?
Yeah, it would cost a lot to make, but do you honestly think there isn't demand for that much compute and graphic power in a single socket?

>>60947628
that's because nvidya doesn't have an on-die solution for that and intel is phasing out it's iGPU starting with KB-X right?

>>60947682
There's a few papers floating around of a 16 core APU with a shitload of shaders, it's gonna be huge no doubt.
But should fit on the threadripper socket.

>>60947690
no because they wont have the tdp and the efficiency anymore
dont forget when vega launch we are to witness the first true HSA uarch they literally brought the xbox memory system to ryzen+vega

>dont forget when vega launch we are to witness the first true HSA uarch they literally brought the xbox memory system to ryzen+vega
xbox memory system, like with the One X?

>>60947714
and probably the cooling needed would be equally as huge

>>60947821
like every single one of them yeah hbcc is actually the brain of it all

>>60947682
What makes you think they aren't? Before Ryzen AMD was a dead man walking, Ryzen was a hail Mary that leveraged every last ounce of CPU design and drained every last dollar with in the company. So all this shit takes time, and most importantly money, that they still need to recoup in large numbers of datacenter sales before we can see HPC APUs.

>>60947889
a combination of circumstances allowed amd to catch a second wind, AND HOW.

>>60947889
the chinese came long before ryzen was a thing and flooded amd with money dude...

why you think amd is allowed to built supercomputers to china and murica banned intel to sell anything on china?

>>60947953
not that anon but why?

>>60947973
why you think amd was sandbagging so hard? because of intel or because the deals on the supercomputers? sadly for intel the sanctions cant be reviewed before 3 years so amd has the massive chinese market for it alone for at least 3 years

>>60948010
i mean, why was intel banned from selling to china?

>>60948030
cause usa is stupid
and because china is already on par with computing power with usa
plus exascale system i think us gov also underestimate the importance of ryzen

Why can't we get an objective opinion ?

>>60948151
china reached usa on supercomputing raw power
china annc a plan to built an exascale supercomputet
a month later intel gets banned on selling cpus to china
3 months later usa annc a small budget of 250 million to 5 companies to propose an exascale system

that is what happened so far

>>60928601

POO
IN
LOO

>>60929420

Jethuth Chritht. What's the Tjmax on these Hiroshimas?

>>60928720
yeah at 4ghz you gonna need to buy a coal plant or a geothermal plant and some turbines to provide that monstrocity of a tdp with power

Since I've already pulled the trigger I can only pray that Ryzen really is a good CPU and that I didn't just get fucked by /g/shills

>>60948151
Why do you need those? Do you not crave MEGA TASKING?

>>60929999

Some places in the world have high temperatures or/and high power prices. They might not want a tiny sun in their offices/man-caves.

>>60948260
No, it's terrible, it's slower in 480p gaming.

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>>60948260
bad goy, you'll have 5 fps less in 1080p than the clearly superior choice, i7-7700k.

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>>60930170
>>60930178
>>60930339
>>60930391

WTB time machine, need two stops for AYYMD and BTC.

If it drops to 10 again, I might get on.

>>60931227

Did you see that German overclocker talk about delidding these? He kept saying "but remember guise this is a very very good CPU" as in "I got a top binned CPU here, fucking forget getting these results, goyim".

>>60933264

KYS

>>60928749
Now show me the minimums.

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>>60929112
>Intel equivalents are 10-15% faster and are comparably efficient and cheaper.
anon...

how does one solder the lids on the dies tho? do they just put solder on the dies, put the lids on and then microwave that shit till it sets in?

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>>60927994

>>60948578
No you use a special thermal compound.

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>>60948578
Go ahead, solder those heatsinks back on

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>>60948297
True facts.

>>60949517
>5ghz
How the fuck?