Netflix joins to the fight to save net neutrality

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>>60919295
BAD GOY

GIVES US THE INTERNET SO TRUMP CANT WIN AGAIN NOW!

Reminder, hate speech and pirating is not net neutral and must be regulated, vote for net neutrality! Dont let hollywood die out!

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>"we're big enough to get the deals we want,"
Net neutrality is a placebo, the big companies will do what they want anyway

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>we want net neutrality
>you can only get 4k if you use Edge and Kaby Lake

>>60919295
>we dont want to pay for 35% of internet traffic, think of our shareholders, goy.

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>corporation advocating for net neutrality

Netflix will benefit from net neutrality exclusively.

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>americans are so cucked they don't want NN because they know they will get fucked in the ass either way and they prefer the corporate dick to the state one

>>60920353

What if the state and corporations are working together

>>60920486
You're a perceptive one.
But you're still powerless unfortunately. The US' power structure is so fucking entrenched in corruption people accepted it long ago.

You'll continue to slowly get more fucked by every iteration of the two same fucking parties with the same status quo agenda until something snaps so hard it brings chaos.

>>60919295
net neutrality is nothing more than a taxpayer funded subsidy of Netflix
of course they support it

>>60920564
You have no fucking idea how peering works do you?

>>60920528

So the solution is, we do nothing and take it up the ass.

Wonderful.

>>60920581
You could always fuck off to a country where people take democracy semi-seriously.

But yeah, America is way beyond fucked. Eisenhower saw it coming, but now it's too late.

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>>60919295
>all the big crony capitalist corporations support NN
>NN goyim still think is about "fairness" and "equality"

Brainwashed, or just retarded?

>>60920648
>comcast illegally using customer information to spam anti-NN petition signatures
Yeah, fuck NN only the big corporations that fuck customers in the ass support it.

>>60919295
>"Everyone deserves an open Internet."
As if they give a single shit about "everyone"; they only care about profit, or in this case, a loss of profit.

>>60920676
Doesn't really mean that they are wrong.

The average Joe's best interest would only seriously be addressed by breaking up the current ISPs and undoing all the bullshit monopoly inducing laws around.
But that will never fucking happen in a million years.

Leveraging the power of Silicon Valley against cable companies could result in a positive outcome for us if the FCC had any semblance of integrity. But Ha fucking Ha right?

>>60920725

How do you know Silicon Valley won't have the goods for themselves?

Apple will create its own content for television.

>>60920760
The only way to avoid this would be to have strong antitrust regulation that is enforced and kept up to date by a government that isn't corrupt. That shit happened to AT&T before remember?

So yeah, we're fucked.

what does NN do again?

>herp derp let us impose arbitrary regulations because WE NEED LAWS TO PROTECT FREEDOM!
Reminder that this is the same retarded shit that eventually let the FCC dictate what you can and cannot say on printed media, TV, and radio under "decency laws".
Give them an inch and they'll take the entire distance to the sun.

>>60920809
>slippery slope argument
Be subtle at least.

>>60920798
Gives a government agency regulatory power over what is allowed over communications mediums.
I.E. Under the guise of consumer protection, they'll be able to dictate what is and isn't allowed over lines.

>>60920823
>It's not a valid argument it doesnt matter if it's happened multiple times in the past! Look! Look I know the names of a logical fallacy!
That only applies if there isn't prior evidence to that happening.
There is very direct evidence of this exact thing happening multiple times in the past.

>>60920798
Forbids ISPs from prioritizing some forms of traffic over others. Especially pertaining to provenance.

You can't, for instance, route packets from your own video provider faster than Google's.

>>60920830
You're not against net neutrality, you're against government regulation of contents.

But the Comcast shills love conflating the two, so I shouldn't be suprised.

>>60920825
>>60920834
so NN is shit
why are famous people for it?

>>60920782

And who will lobby it?

Corporations.

>>60920867
>it's shit
It's been the status quo for as long as the Internet existed.
But yeah, go ahead, turn your own part of it into a Minitel equivalent, I don't mind.

>>60920881
>lobby
How the fuck is that utter bribery allowed is beyond me.
Granted lobby groups exist everywhere, but in the US they do shit that would get you thrown in jail almost everywhere else in the western world.

>>60920893

Because you vote them in.

You are the problem.

>>60920898
I'm not american m9, I actually am in control of my own state thank you very much.

>>60920887
?? explain to me in memes

>>60920927
Easy if you're an oldfag desu.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cZC67wXUTs

>>60920282
That dude looks like a spic himself

>>60920848
Net Neutrality in the form of FCC authority IS government regulation of contents.
This isn't just as plain as "you cant have paid fast lanes, ISPs". If it were I'd be all for it. If you actually read into the legislation they're trying to put in place it's doing a whoooole fucking lot more than that.

>>60920867
Because they don't actually read.

>>60920887
Yeah, so why are we trying to give the government the power to manage and manipulate the status quo?

>>60920908

Which is that?

>>60920995
>>60920983
>Net Neutrality in the form of FCC authority
You know net neutrality isn't just the american version of it right?

Hell here in my country, Switzerland, NN is in the same bill that forbids censorship of contents, even if they infringe on oh-so-sacred-copyright.

>>60919558
They shouldn't have to pay for it. Trucks don't pay extra to use the highways.

>>60919295
Too fucking late, faggots, you were all educated about net neutrality c.2010 or whenever this came up last

>>60921029
yes they do

>>60921017

America is not Switzerland.

>>60921029
>>60921050
See fucking >>60920942

And learn how a fucking network stack works too while you're at it.

>>60921050
No they don't.

>>60920983
>...if you actually read into the legislation they are trying to put in place...
the FCC is trying to get rid of the existing net neutrality rules, not put new net neutrality legislation in place

>>60921060
No shit.

Every EU country has similar laws regarding NN though if you were just doing special pleading.

The US is the only place retarded enough to not legally enforce what makes the Internet useful in the first place.

why the fuck are there rules for the internet in the first place?
When will we get our decentralized, non-proprietary, open source intranets????

>>60921096
>implying lack of rules doesn't always lead to tyranny
Fucking anarchists I swear.

The most idiotic thing is that
>decentralized, non-proprietary, open source
is exactly what the internet is and why it was successful.

when the fuck did net neutrality become a partisan issue

>>60921155
When people stopped listening to sysadmins and started getting their policy advice from comedy shows and ads from cable companies.

It's a fucking tragedy.

>>60921155
everything is a partisan issue because this is the level of political discourse that normies can handle, 4chan is so popular now that its full of normies

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>>60920282
>Netflix will benefit from net neutrality exclusively.
Netflix does not give a shit about NN and their CEO has said as much. They are only changing their tune because it looked bad when their CEO said they did not need NN anymore because they could buy their own access now. kys

>>60919313
>implying Trump is a friend of Net Neutrality and an enemy of the Jew

Reminder that George Soros has invested heavily in Netflix

>>60920607
Where would I go?

I just want to live in a country where people have many personal freedoms and don't get fucked up the ass by corporations/the government

>>60921344
Iceland sound like what you want.
I'd tell you to come in Switzerland, but we don't need more nasty foreigners to ruin our sekrit klub.

>>60921340
He has his finger in so many pies you can basically say that of any fucking thing.

>>60921368
Iceland has shitty gun laws

hardly good personal freedoms

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>>60921155
Because retards on social media sites think that their politicians are basement dwelling manchildren who spend most of their freetime in front of a gaming monitor.

https://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/6dhu80/letter_from_my_congressman_on_net_neutrality/

They could have told Gowdy about the consequences of ending Net Neutrality and how it fucks over the little guy. However, they would rather cry in their echochambers rather than continue persuading their representatives how unpopular the bill is to the American Public.

The American Congress are a couple generations older than the youthful adults, nowadays, so they don't really have much knowledge and enthusiasm of the internet, in the first place.

>>60921395
Don't care, got my SIG.
But outside of that they are pretty okay.

You could also go to France or Germany, Americans think that they are much worse than they actually are for some reason. But yeah we like our states here in Europe, so you can have your guns but you'll need to fill in the botomless well of paperwork first.

But at least you won't get fucked over by the establishment as much because people give a damn about politics.

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>>60920983
>"you cant have paid fast lanes, ISPs".
What's the problem with having paid direct peering lanes that reduces stress put on ISP's networks and ensures a good experience for the end user? The biggest "data hog" content providers have direct peering lanes with most major ISPs in the USA.

>pic related.

>>60921442
>What's the problem with having paid direct peering lanes that reduces stress put on ISP's networks and ensures a good experience for the end user?
Removes incentives to improve the overall network and pushes the market towards even more centralization.
What you want to solve the problem of the heavy couple of content providers is paid for caching boxes which Netflix proposed to the ISPs before.

But the greedy fucks really just want to double dip and.

>>60921411
What the fuck is the point of writing to someone who won't even read past the second sentence of your letter?

>>60921072
>existing net neutrality rules
That have yet to go into effect, which is a good thing.

>>60921442
If major ISPs didnt partner up or even outright own content creation companies, I'd have no issue with a paid fast lane, but since they do (and always will) it's a conflict of interest.

>>60921017
Different countries have different legislation.
Also congrats on living in the utopia of the world.

>>60921509
Virtue signaling I guess?
I mean spamming the assholes with letters sometimes work.

>>60921064
trucks pay far more in taxes relative to weight than cars do

>>60921509
Because sometimes a letter is not enough to get your voice heard. Some Senators and Representatives are constantly active in the political field, while others are carefree with more time and less responsibilities. People like Gowdy only see the Net Neutrality conflict at face value and don't understand, or have time to understand the situation at hand because of their schedules. If you really want your voice heard over the thousands of others, than a direct confrontation face-to-face, will be the best method for letting your politicians know. Rallying for more hands and soliciting help from others will help your cause go a long way, too.

They're representatives, not nobles. Listening to The People they represent is part of their job. Try writing to your Congress first, and see where his/her opinions lie, then escalate should he/she not respond to your message.

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>Netflix is only defending net "neutrality" because they're going to have to pay out the ass to stay competitive when ISPs start charging for bandwidth

>>60921635
>our rights are only defended when the interest of a corporation are at risk
O SAY, CAN YOU SEE

>>60921442
>hey guy, we'll give you top speed to a content provider we happen to own, but you can't use that same speed anywhere else because fuck you pay us

ISPs can eat a dick.

>>60921064
>>60921029
>>60921529

You both are wrong, however trucks do pay more to use highways, you fucking retard.

You wouldn't know why because you're both underage.


It's not about taxes. When your daddy is taking you on a roadtrip, pay attention to toll booths. Trucks pay more. A lot more.

This is the simplest and most direct reasoning.

>>60921711
Series. Of. Fucking. Tubes.

>>60921711
who the fuck has toll booths>

>>60921829
People retarded enough to have privately owned roads because their government is so shit it can't handle infrastructure properly.

>>60919295
Pornhub's participating in this thing too.

>>60921509
>What the fuck is the point of writing to someone who won't even read past the second sentence of your letter?
>implying it even reaches them
They have someone else to read their email for them and forward the important stuff.

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>>60919313
He won without it

>>60921525
>that have yet to go into effect
you are so misinformed that it physically hurts, the FCC has been enforcing net neutrality rules for a decade

>>60919295
>net neutrality
>you can only get certain subs depending where you live
Had to get a fucking VPN because my wife can't into English and she wants to watch series with Portuguese subtitles.

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>>60923663
>thinking this has anything to do with net neutrality
>being a hue

>>60919452

fucking this.

Why doesn't Hollywood stop renewing the licenses for all of their movies and tv-shows? It would bankrupt in 2 months because no one will pay for Netflix's 3 tv-shows like Dear White People

>>60922091
> FCC has been enforcing net neutrality rules for a decade
Except they havent been classified under anything that permits the FCC actual authority until Tom Wheeler tried to get that passed, and even then it still hadn't taken effect before it was repealed.
Or do you think law magically gets put into place the second the legislation passes?

>>60921635
Their CEO already said they don't need to support it as they can buy their own deals. This turn around for Netflix is just for show.

>>60923874
>neutrality implies not giving a fuck what you do and where you are
>netflix is pushing that
>while DRM'ing subtitles depending on where you are, automatically breaking one of the net neutrality rules
>thinks everyone that speaks Portuguese is a filthy BR
:) ebin

>>60921635
Do you mean how Netflix already has had to broker multiple deals with most Tier 3 ISPs to not throttle the shit out of their content because net neutrality has never been fucking enforced?
I.E. they only stand to gain a shitload from pushing their agenda here?

Do you idiots ever actually READ the articles you repeat the headlines from, or do you just mimic everything reddit shouts into the sky?

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>>60923886
Cause Hollywood gets money. And Hollywood is the one behind this special hardware requirements for 4k, which is used for realtime low level decoding of encrypted content. Netflix does not own most of the content they stream so these requirements are not really for protecting Netflix content but Hollywood's.

why can't america just die already

>>60920867
because they got memed and doesn't have clue about peering agreements

>>60923896
>This turn around for Netflix is just for show.
>40% of all traffic in US
>just for show
you're fucking retarded

What is "net neutrality" about?

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>>60923950
"We had to carry the water when we were growing up and we were small," Hastings said, "and now other companies need to be on that leading edge," stating also that "where net neutrality is really important is the Netflix of 10 years ago."

http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/Netflix-on-Net-Neutrality-Were-Big-Now-Its-Not-Our-Problem-139678

>>60923893
FCC took Madison river to court over net neutrality in 2005

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only losers whine about nn
why the fuck should anyone have a say about what I do to my own infrastructure... if yu don't like it, get out. that's like sharing out your wifi and your guest making the rules.
inb4 half assed goyim meme replies with shit arguments

>>60924072
And they took comcast to court over throttling of P2P traffic.
That was protocol throttling, not service throttling.

>>60923904
>he still doesn't know what net neutrality is
you don't belong here

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>>60924072
Never went to court (just investigated) and Madison payed $15k to the FCC and agreed to stop. wew

>>60924075
No it's more like setting up a business to give out wifi for a fee, then having to abide by the laws of the land

>>60924075
Fuck that losers. Jews and good goys run the world. It's better to be on the powerful side.

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>>60924075
>that's like sharing out your wifi and your guest making the rules.
You act like ISP grant access to their customers for free.

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>>60924155
>abide by the laws of the land
which i do exactly. and my priority lane practices are also perfectly legal business.
what are you even onto nigga

>>60924194
>acting like you have any infrastructure to micromanage.

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>>60924194

>>60924221
i do
& theres still not a single good piont itt on why this shouldn't be my business model.

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>>60924275
And what business is that? You run a network at a McDonalds?

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>>60919313
>this is what imbecilic redditors actually believe
Greatest ally ineed.

>>60924352
Of course I run em. There's also a good chance my service reaches your mother's home.

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>>60924399
Just hand to go there.

>>60924419
had*

I joke lads I do fuck all. But I hope this business mindset makes me go places.
good thread

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>>60924568
sure

Looks like netflix realised that they weren't too big to bully.

>>60919295
> Internet-Wide
> US
> Internet-Wide
You guys really think too much of yourselves.

>>60921344
Just move somewhere in the US where nobody even bothers enforcing laws unless there is a murder. Maybe near the hillfolk.

>George Soros is netflix's sugar daddy
>always do the opposite of what the jew wants
>netflix wants net neutrality

feelin mighty conflicted here